What I like is the fact that you've been so transparent about everything, to the point where it was probably a little painful. It's a great machine, I've got one, and I think you'll never regret your purchase. Once connected to your Mac/PC, then it's not a big deal to drag across the tracks, delete them on the M12, leaving you empty slots to keep on adding to your song and then mixing them in your DAW of choice for the final production. It's almost perfect.
Hello, and thanks for your comment. I appreciate your input on my video, and your thoughts about using yours. And yeah, sometimes it's a little honest so much so that it is painful. I'm not the best singer, but I just can't help but feel inspired when I have a piece of gear in front of me that really helps me put my ideas onto tape so to speak. I know you know what I mean. Cheers.
Dude, going mostly DAWless and using the T12 as a stand-alone has been great for me. Having the option to do both is a great feature. This is the best purchase I have made in years.
Thanks for your comment. I am experiencing the same. It's freeing to be away from the computer and just record, loop, mix until it's right. Then the file files can be further edited on a computer- it's awesome.
@@RobertHamm Great video! For someone looking to just record a bit of drums, guitar and vocals at home, would you say the model 12 is better than something like the tascam dp24sd? Thanks
The DP24sd is going to give you more options with effects and parameters and that final master. It's a more sophisticated mixer in that regard, but it's also older and has different preamps and circuitry than the Model 12. I chose the model 12 when I made the same decision you are facing. Both will accomplish the mission. The real question is going to be the drums and how many free tracks rounwant to have. Although the DP24SD has 24 tracks half of them are stereo, so 8x Mono channels (1-8) and 8x stereo channels (9/10... 15/16.. 23/24). Also, you will only ever be able to record 8 channels at a time. The Model 12 will let you record 12 channels at once: channels 1-10 and the stereo mix 11/12. However, the Model 12 has 6 mono channels (1-6) and two stereo channels (7/8 and 9/10) with the master stereo channel as an always on recorded channel (11/12). You can't access it as an input, but you can always bounce your last playback from it because it's always recording. You can also mix it down as different versions. I don't really count it as an input on the model 12, but it is functional. I feel that they should have called it the model 10 because it's a little cheap to eat two tracks as the "master" because all mixers have a master.. they could have said channel 9/10 was the aux channel and it would have made the same amount of nonsense to me. I think they should have given us two more mono channels.. That didn't stop me from getting it. I think it's a better mixer. The DP24SD has more mastering, effects, sound out routing options, scenes/presets, and more faders. You can mix more with it once you get tracks into it, but it's also more complicated. When you just want to record, the Model series has it covered. Just plug in and play. It's really that simple. About recording drums.. figure out your mic setup. Drums get greedy with inputs. I use a max of 4 on a Tascam Portacapture X8. I take it's 4xlr inputs and stereo mic inputs (6x total mics into the Portacapture) and then run the line out into one of the Model 12's stereo channels (usually 7/8 for reasons I'm not talking about here, but they are important), and then I have my stereo recording from the drums on my Model 12 AND a 32bit float recording of the individual mics from the drum kit as a backup if I need it. Otherwise, two mics for the drums( channel 7/8) , rhythm guitar (channel 1), lead guitar (channel 2), bass (channel 3), keys (channel 4) , and 2x vox (channel 5&6) gets you 8 inputs and the stereo channel 9/10 is still available for bounce and mixdown from main. Of course if you aren't worried about bounce, use 9/10 for two more inputs. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm You summed it up really well. I do as much as I can as a stand alone. I finish my stereo mix through a DAW for clean beginning ,ending, noise, normalize etc
I bought this 12 months ago for DAW usage and it's been handy for everything. The Bluetooth is great the USB not so much but there is a firmware update that apparently helps stability. Of course direct recording is flawless it records what you send it can't complain about that.
I’ve been using the Model 12 for a couple-three months now. So far, I’ve only used it for sessions with my Logic Pro daw. The mic preamp sounds killer on vocals. Love it! Soon, I’ll use it for a live “analogue” session with a four-piece band in my studio. 👍🏽
i just brought a model 12 a month ago. i got it to mix and record my EDM music. I did i lil after work set. and WOW. I didn't realize what i was missing until i was able to mix a drum machine groove box and sampler live...and nearly flawless. i love the model 12. it's pretty too
Hey Robert a drummer named Jim Dooley offers drum tracks for musicians that are not drummers . All sorts of styles and he posts the videos of him on the kit recording them. You might enjoy
I believe they do two separate things very differently. For use as a soundboard, take your pic. I like the onyx, it feels to be more modern and workflow, and not just because of appearance. I like the additional inserts and the tascam, and some of the additional features of the hybrid analog digital Tascam board. It just gives you a lot of options in the menu. Now the LCD screen on the Model 12 doesn't look like much, but it does the job just as well as you'd want it to. I did consider the Mackie Onyx 12 when I made my purchasing decision, and it came down to recording for me. I wanted a multi-track recorder that also functioned as a live soundboard as well as operations with DAW. And I just don't remember right now thinking at the time that the onyx covered all those bases the way I needed them to. I do remember thinking I like the onyx better than similar Zoom products. I hope this helps. Cheers.
Robert- I’ve had a Model 12 on my desk for months now. I’ve been so terrified of screwing the electronics up that I’d read the manual several times before approaching the next step, maybe plugging the Shure 58 in. Then walking away again. Read the manual. You get the picture..I’m subscribing, downloading your cheerleading. Thanks! 🎼🎶🤹🎸🙋♀️🦋
What I like is the fact that you've been so transparent about everything, to the point where it was probably a little painful. It's a great machine, I've got one, and I think you'll never regret your purchase. Once connected to your Mac/PC, then it's not a big deal to drag across the tracks, delete them on the M12, leaving you empty slots to keep on adding to your song and then mixing them in your DAW of choice for the final production. It's almost perfect.
Hello, and thanks for your comment. I appreciate your input on my video, and your thoughts about using yours. And yeah, sometimes it's a little honest so much so that it is painful. I'm not the best singer, but I just can't help but feel inspired when I have a piece of gear in front of me that really helps me put my ideas onto tape so to speak. I know you know what I mean. Cheers.
Thanks for the kick in the butt. I've been stalling with my Model 12 for about the past year.
Dude, going mostly DAWless and using the T12 as a stand-alone has been great for me. Having the option to do both is a great feature. This is the best purchase I have made in years.
Thanks for your comment. I am experiencing the same. It's freeing to be away from the computer and just record, loop, mix until it's right. Then the file files can be further edited on a computer- it's awesome.
@@RobertHamm Great video! For someone looking to just record a bit of drums, guitar and vocals at home, would you say the model 12 is better than something like the tascam dp24sd? Thanks
The DP24sd is going to give you more options with effects and parameters and that final master. It's a more sophisticated mixer in that regard, but it's also older and has different preamps and circuitry than the Model 12. I chose the model 12 when I made the same decision you are facing. Both will accomplish the mission.
The real question is going to be the drums and how many free tracks rounwant to have. Although the DP24SD has 24 tracks half of them are stereo, so 8x Mono channels (1-8) and 8x stereo channels (9/10... 15/16.. 23/24). Also, you will only ever be able to record 8 channels at a time.
The Model 12 will let you record 12 channels at once: channels 1-10 and the stereo mix 11/12. However, the Model 12 has 6 mono channels (1-6) and two stereo channels (7/8 and 9/10) with the master stereo channel as an always on recorded channel (11/12). You can't access it as an input, but you can always bounce your last playback from it because it's always recording. You can also mix it down as different versions.
I don't really count it as an input on the model 12, but it is functional. I feel that they should have called it the model 10 because it's a little cheap to eat two tracks as the "master" because all mixers have a master.. they could have said channel 9/10 was the aux channel and it would have made the same amount of nonsense to me. I think they should have given us two more mono channels..
That didn't stop me from getting it. I think it's a better mixer. The DP24SD has more mastering, effects, sound out routing options, scenes/presets, and more faders. You can mix more with it once you get tracks into it, but it's also more complicated.
When you just want to record, the Model series has it covered. Just plug in and play. It's really that simple.
About recording drums.. figure out your mic setup. Drums get greedy with inputs. I use a max of 4 on a Tascam Portacapture X8. I take it's 4xlr inputs and stereo mic inputs (6x total mics into the Portacapture) and then run the line out into one of the Model 12's stereo channels (usually 7/8 for reasons I'm not talking about here, but they are important), and then I have my stereo recording from the drums on my Model 12 AND a 32bit float recording of the individual mics from the drum kit as a backup if I need it.
Otherwise, two mics for the drums( channel 7/8) , rhythm guitar (channel 1), lead guitar (channel 2), bass (channel 3), keys (channel 4) , and 2x vox (channel 5&6) gets you 8 inputs and the stereo channel 9/10 is still available for bounce and mixdown from main. Of course if you aren't worried about bounce, use 9/10 for two more inputs.
Cheers.
@@RobertHamm thanks so much for taking the time to reply! Definitely given me something to ponder. Thanks again 🙏
@@RobertHamm You summed it up really well. I do as much as I can as a stand alone. I finish my stereo mix through a DAW for clean beginning ,ending, noise, normalize etc
I bought this 12 months ago for DAW usage and it's been handy for everything. The Bluetooth is great the USB not so much but there is a firmware update that apparently helps stability. Of course direct recording is flawless it records what you send it can't complain about that.
I’ve been using the Model 12 for a couple-three months now. So far, I’ve only used it for sessions with my Logic Pro daw. The mic preamp sounds killer on vocals. Love it!
Soon, I’ll use it for a live “analogue” session with a four-piece band in my studio. 👍🏽
That sounds like a party. Glad to know it's working well in Logic. Let me know how the live goes. Cheers.
i just brought a model 12 a month ago. i got it to mix and record my EDM music. I did i lil after work set. and WOW. I didn't realize what i was missing until i was able to mix a drum machine groove box and sampler live...and nearly flawless. i love the model 12. it's pretty too
Looks and sounds like you are having fun with it and that's what really matters. Cheers!
Hey Robert a drummer named Jim Dooley offers drum tracks for musicians that are not drummers . All sorts of styles and he posts the videos of him on the kit recording them. You might enjoy
Cool I got the model 16 last week for the analog mixer rather thsn all digital. Cool cool
Sorry about your dad😢 great review👍
Love it Tascam model 12 vs Mackie Onyx which is better ???
I believe they do two separate things very differently. For use as a soundboard, take your pic. I like the onyx, it feels to be more modern and workflow, and not just because of appearance. I like the additional inserts and the tascam, and some of the additional features of the hybrid analog digital Tascam board. It just gives you a lot of options in the menu. Now the LCD screen on the Model 12 doesn't look like much, but it does the job just as well as you'd want it to.
I did consider the Mackie Onyx 12 when I made my purchasing decision, and it came down to recording for me. I wanted a multi-track recorder that also functioned as a live soundboard as well as operations with DAW. And I just don't remember right now thinking at the time that the onyx covered all those bases the way I needed them to.
I do remember thinking I like the onyx better than similar Zoom products.
I hope this helps. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm Awsome tnks for the reply will go fr the Tascam as i need the EQ i hear to be in the DAW recording which the Onyx does not have 👍🙂
Robert- I’ve had a Model 12 on my desk for months now. I’ve been so terrified of screwing the electronics up that I’d read the manual several times before approaching the next step, maybe plugging the Shure 58 in. Then walking away again. Read the manual. You get the picture..I’m subscribing, downloading your cheerleading. Thanks! 🎼🎶🤹🎸🙋♀️🦋