This whole series has been great!! Have watched multiple times already. PLEASE do a part 4 about track management! That's such a good idea. I'd love to see more. Thank you so so so much for doing these breakdowns, Really really helpful
I just watched all three of your videos on the Model12 and I want to thank you so much for your extensive work! I can't believe how many things I didn't know about that machine...
Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful. I'm not exactly a pro reviewer, so hopefully, I wasn't too wordy..lol. I know there are a lot of great videos on the M12 out there, but most of them are kind of piecemeal and one topic at a time. I wanted to do a set of videos that was a little more inclusive and also include some tips I learned over the last few years I've owned mine.
Some great thoughts and worth watching. The mic pad is present in the gain knob - if you look you'll see that unity is set to about 11 o'clock, so just turn the gain knob down which acts as a pad. Maybe not perfect but I think that's the way it's meant to be used. As for copying a track (and this REALLY should have been possible in the menu) is to send the track you wish to copy to the Sub bus and then use a patch lead to go from the Sub output to the input of your desired track number and then just record it. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestion.. I think technically, the pad is for line level devices and not mic. Line levels go from -10 to +40 (outer circle) Mic levels are from 0 to +50 (inner circle). As far as the copy re-record work around, I haven't tried going out the Sub bus, but I have tried going out AUX1 and back in and there is a slight delay between the original track and the new track. Enough for me to notice. I think this is due to it going thru an additional DA and AD conversion, which adds a few ms of latency.
The good thing about it is that the tracks are not affected by the mixing so we can have a quick mix and still get clean stems we can mix properly in the computer.
Issue #2: Simply remove the SD card and the M12 uses auto-detect and matches the PC sample rate. In DAW mode, audio should only be playing through CH 1/2 (mode switch to PC), all other channels should not have any audio, even if you set the mode switches to PC. Wish list: Invert phase after recording: Yes, this could be done via a firmware upgrade. Inserts are part of the analog circuits and won't be possible. MIDI start/stop could be possible via a firmware upgrade, but tempo change means audio time-stretch and this is a CPU intensive process and may not be possible, so TASCAM leaves this out. Track takes/layers would be nice and could be possible via FW upgrade, so you can select any of the previously recorded takes for that track and choose the best one. input level PAD is part of the gain knob. Below U (about 11:00), it reduces the gain of the incoming signal. Not the best option for a PAD since the knobs are log scale and a small change in current state adds a big gain change. I prefer a PAD button. The current single FX has very limited features, I mean you can't even control the delay feedback amount. Mixed FX like hall reverb and delay, can't control the balance. Let alone a second FX module lol. Sadly, most of these "nice to have" features will never make it into the old Model 12. I mean, why would TASCAM spend all the time and money, when they can maybe come up with Model 1200 and sell new units. P.S. Nice channel. :)
Hi Mutz. Thanks for the great videos! Sadly I also have the @ 15:26 "buffering'" issue when connecting my Model 12 to a DAW on an iPad. The music is playing but it`s all cracking and jumping. I`ve actually tried about 12 Apple devices and only 3 worked without issues. Have you found a fix for this possibly please? Keep up the good work!
No, I haven't found a solution yet, but to be honest I only tried this once. Plus my iPad is 10 years old, so I assumed that was part of the problem. When I get a chance I'll play around with it again to see if I have better luck. Thanks for watching!
No, this was one of my wish list items. While the M12 can drive other devices like a drum machine, it can't be driven. So if you hook it up to a second M12, I don't believe the 2nd M12 would respond.
Is it me, or does the model 12 sound analog? Im using the usb pc link. Running through the 12 gives a pleasing less digital sound when running through individual track channels.
Strong noise in live mode. I have. That doesn't go away when the gain is changed. I have it in the recordings. I can only get rid of it if I throttle the master to about -20 db. or mute in the channels. Does anyone know the problem and can it be changed? I think it wasn't always like that...
Sorry hear that. I don't have that particular issue. Sometimes noises like that could be coming from the mic or line jack and you just need to try a different mic or line jack to see if that helps. Or it could be interference from overhead lights or a ground hum. You can try plugging it in in a different wall outlet or try it different room.
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This whole series has been great!! Have watched multiple times already. PLEASE do a part 4 about track management! That's such a good idea. I'd love to see more. Thank you so so so much for doing these breakdowns, Really really helpful
Thanks, I just started Part 4. It might take a week or two for me to finish.
I just watched all three of your videos on the Model12 and I want to thank you so much for your extensive work!
I can't believe how many things I didn't know about that machine...
Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful. I'm not exactly a pro reviewer, so hopefully, I wasn't too wordy..lol. I know there are a lot of great videos on the M12 out there, but most of them are kind of piecemeal and one topic at a time. I wanted to do a set of videos that was a little more inclusive and also include some tips I learned over the last few years I've owned mine.
A VERY COOL INFORMATIVE VIDEO MATE... THANKS
Thanks!
Some great thoughts and worth watching. The mic pad is present in the gain knob - if you look you'll see that unity is set to about 11 o'clock, so just turn the gain knob down which acts as a pad. Maybe not perfect but I think that's the way it's meant to be used.
As for copying a track (and this REALLY should have been possible in the menu) is to send the track you wish to copy to the Sub bus and then use a patch lead to go from the Sub output to the input of your desired track number and then just record it.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestion.. I think technically, the pad is for line level devices and not mic. Line levels go from -10 to +40 (outer circle) Mic levels are from 0 to +50 (inner circle). As far as the copy re-record work around, I haven't tried going out the Sub bus, but I have tried going out AUX1 and back in and there is a slight delay between the original track and the new track. Enough for me to notice. I think this is due to it going thru an additional DA and AD conversion, which adds a few ms of latency.
The good thing about it is that the tracks are not affected by the mixing so we can have a quick mix and still get clean stems we can mix properly in the computer.
Yes. That's also what I like about the M12. Thanks for watching. Hopefully, I didn't ramble on too much.
Thanks for three great videos on the Model 12! And yes I would love to know how to record more than 10 tracks on the Model 12.
Thanks! I'm actually just starting Part 4. Might take me a few weeks. Hopefully, I'll have it up by the end of November or early December.
Fantastic series.
Issue #2: Simply remove the SD card and the M12 uses auto-detect and matches the PC sample rate.
In DAW mode, audio should only be playing through CH 1/2 (mode switch to PC), all other channels should not have any audio, even if you set the mode switches to PC.
Wish list:
Invert phase after recording: Yes, this could be done via a firmware upgrade.
Inserts are part of the analog circuits and won't be possible.
MIDI start/stop could be possible via a firmware upgrade, but tempo change means audio time-stretch and this is a CPU intensive process and may not be possible, so TASCAM leaves this out.
Track takes/layers would be nice and could be possible via FW upgrade, so you can select any of the previously recorded takes for that track and choose the best one.
input level PAD is part of the gain knob. Below U (about 11:00), it reduces the gain of the incoming signal. Not the best option for a PAD since the knobs are log scale and a small change in current state adds a big gain change. I prefer a PAD button.
The current single FX has very limited features, I mean you can't even control the delay feedback amount. Mixed FX like hall reverb and delay, can't control the balance. Let alone a second FX module lol.
Sadly, most of these "nice to have" features will never make it into the old Model 12. I mean, why would TASCAM spend all the time and money, when they can maybe come up with Model 1200 and sell new units.
P.S. Nice channel. :)
Hi Mutz. Thanks for the great videos! Sadly I also have the @ 15:26 "buffering'" issue when connecting my Model 12 to a DAW on an iPad. The music is playing but it`s all cracking and jumping. I`ve actually tried about 12 Apple devices and only 3 worked without issues. Have you found a fix for this possibly please? Keep up the good work!
No, I haven't found a solution yet, but to be honest I only tried this once. Plus my iPad is 10 years old, so I assumed that was part of the problem. When I get a chance I'll play around with it again to see if I have better luck. Thanks for watching!
@@mutzmusic5737 Ok, maybe you'll have more luck then me, please do let me know if you find something. Thanks for reaching out and be well!
Would the Model 12 be able to drive another Model 12 via the midi in/out?
No, this was one of my wish list items. While the M12 can drive other devices like a drum machine, it can't be driven. So if you hook it up to a second M12, I don't believe the 2nd M12 would respond.
@mutzmusic5737 Has anyone tried?
Is it me, or does the model 12 sound analog? Im using the usb pc link. Running through the 12 gives a pleasing less digital sound when running through individual track channels.
I do agree that it does sound a little less digital than some of the other interfaces I've used in the past.
I have a question I have terrible noice when im in live mode. When I turn on my faders an main to cero. Also in the headphone. Did you heard about it?
Strong noise in live mode. I have. That doesn't go away when the gain is changed. I have it in the recordings. I can only get rid of it if I throttle the master to about -20 db. or mute in the channels. Does anyone know the problem and can it be changed? I think it wasn't always like that...
Sorry hear that. I don't have that particular issue. Sometimes noises like that could be coming from the mic or line jack and you just need to try a different mic or line jack to see if that helps. Or it could be interference from overhead lights or a ground hum. You can try plugging it in in a different wall outlet or try it different room.
@@mutzmusic5737 I can go -20db in master. Then it's not in my record this is crazy...