Doctor Who: Sutekh, Susan Triad and The TARDIS Dying Theories!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Welcome to my dive into some of the most intriguing theories in the Doctor Who universe! In this video, I explore the enigmatic Sutekh, the mysterious Susan Triad, and the dramatic possibility of the TARDIS dying.
Join me as I unravel the mythology and speculate on what these theories could mean for the Doctor and their adventures. I'll analyze key episodes, delve into fan speculations, and discuss how these elements might shape the future of the series.
Whether you're a longtime Whovian or a newcomer to the TARDIS, this video is packed with insights and revelations that will fuel your imagination and enhance your appreciation of Doctor Who's rich and complex lore.
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13 also got split across space and time during the Flux.
Who do you think the main villain will end up being
I got a feeling it will be a completely new character
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
just watched the episode and I can’t believe he’s back. the amount of cliff hangers from the episode is astronomical!!
I got so mad when there was a cliff hanger but i know get how the ending was like a climax for the episode and i am excited for The Empire Of Death
just coming here after the episode lmao crazy
You nailed it mate! OMG! Sutekh is BACK! When I was a boy and watched The Pyramids of Mars, it scared the living shit out of me due to the reveal of Sutekh’s face from under the helmet. It’s just insane. And now RTD has brought him back! I am utterly shocked and delighted beyond words that this has happened.
I’m so glad he’s back, I’m so glad they got Gabriel Woolf back to voice him.
In regards to the TARDIS not materialising properly, and more flying, she has been doing that before Wild Blue Yonder. Remember back to the Children in need special. The TARDIS crashes into Davros’ room, not materialise. So I don’t think it’s what Donna did.
Oh yeah.. that is true, although not sure if the CIN Special was part of this overall storyline, if it is good shout I forgot about that.
@@TardisTalksYes, the 14th Doctor literally time-checks that he just regenerated minutes earlier
I counted that as the 14th Doctor being high on regeneration energy and not knowing how to pilot properly
I have to point out that we definitely see Sutek's real face towards the end of Pyramid of mars.
Russel told us to watch The Bad Wolf/Parting of the way before the finale. Maybe Susan looked into tardis, and the Tardis looked into her
It needs to be a trickster. As trickster is using Susan as a puppet or a lure for the doctor. As the doctor now going to Unit to investigate Susan (similar to how trickester use the lost kids as a lure for sarah to investigate her parents and why they abandoned) . Also, Sarah Jane was a 3rd era companion so that could be linked to the 3rd era, as the Trickster being the big bad in the Sarah Jane adventures. So many a question and I am excited to see where it will lead
Yeah Sarah Jane is a nice link in to that and we all know RTD does have a special place in his heart for that particular companion.
@TardisTalks Yeah Sarah jane is a good companion. I just really want the trickster to appear and many things do lead to it. Or is Russell doing a big one and doing something completely different because he can lol?😆
I still have a feeling that the trickster will be who is under the hood and either who abandoned Ruby on Christmas Eve or linked to the trickster or the pantheon. The snow and mystery around Ruby was a lure and a trap to release Sutekh.
@bonniestar4707 yeah. Also ooh, looks like I was 75% right. With Susan being a trap and lure, but just a different villain doing it. I'm also betting the hooded figure is the trickster, Mrs Flood or someone entirely new. I still think Snow is someone else and not linked to Suetkeh. Ah need to wait and see.
One other theory I thought of is that, somehow, the Doctor has been trapped in a Pocket Universe or Dimension within a Snowglobe - Hence Ruby seeming to make it snow when she's in mortal danger or very upset, and the TARDIS' negative effects are due to it skimming on the edge of the globe, and complaining about being unable to leave this pocket dimension.
how do you propose he got trapped in one? at what point
@@brettrigby2226 I didn't think that far back, but you're welcome to speculate.
@@AFCManUk i suppose the only thing that really springs to mind is the toymaster never lost and its all been a massive game since. but its a reach because of the whole master in the tooth and the relevance of a female hand picking it up. i think its The Rani personally
You mean toymaker not toymaster@@brettrigby2226
I think its The Rani! (Ushas) The doctors background story tells of THREE friends, The doctor, The master and The rani; Eventually the Rani became an enemy of the doctor and a somewhat unwilling ally of the master. She was a cold cruel neurochemist and some what of a renegade. It would make sense for her to have picked up the tooth that contained the master, For susan to be turning up in all these places the doctor is turning up would imply the attacker has the power of foresight or time travel; After all its ruby choosing the locations not the doctor or The Rani or whoever.
Perhaps with the reveal of the Shalkra Doctor in Rogue Grant's incarnation was the Doctors life with the Pantheon
HE IS BACK 😂 and upgraded - my brother was hoping it be Fenric
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Omg it all makes sense now!! We’ve been seeing Triangles everywhere if u watch the season back! Most notably rogue! Pyramids are triangles!!
Yup.. spotted the triangles a couple of days ago.. the episodes are all littered with them.
@@TardisTalks yes!! Sutek is the god of death! Rubys adopted mum said he was the beast, & the same guy who voices Sutek Gabriel Woolf voices him AND the beast in The Satans pit!! & when 10 asked what devil he was he said all of them! So it’s the same character! Basically RTD has linked it all together 😭 so so clever
It's the Absorbaloff pml he will be the one who wants (for ever)
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Thanks for video
Ant p
I still think it's Sutekh as The One Who Waits, he always struck me as being one of the only villains strong enough to rattle the Toymaker (alongside the Beast, who another channel made me realize is in play again) while also possessing an inverted morality that could actually scare the guy.
Plus, Toymaker's answer to "Why are you so small?" in _The Giggle_ immediately gave me the same vibes as Sutekh's "your evil is my good" monologue, so it's really hard for me to *not* suspect that it's him.
I still don't get why The Toymaker who is stronger and more powerful than Sutekh could ever be.. would be scared of them?
@@TardisTalks because Sutekh, like the Doctor, is mortal. The Toymaker and his power is bound by a universal rule of fair play, to the extent that the 14th Doctor could introduce the rule of Best of 3 when he lost Hi-Cut in order to save himself from the Toymaker's wrath. And the whole time, the Doctor only takes advantage of the Toymaker's inability to break the rules of the game with "best of 3"; he never tries to set rules that unfairly advantage the Toymaker.
With this in mind, remember that Sutekh is the moral inverse of the Doctor with the added threat of vast psychic abilities beyond what most other mortals can hope to have. If you're the Toymaker, pride stung from losing to a mere mortal once, would you really be eager to play against another mortal who is more powerful _and_ doesn't care at all for fair play?
Great video mate! You made some really good points.
Thanks a ton!
She is a type 40 tardis she's getting on abit but definitely a link to why she's acting up the flux effected her alot in jodies last season plus when donna spilled the coffee 😂
Sutekh doesn't have a link to the 3rd Doctor's era.
My original thought was The Destroyer, however my money is still on The Trickster
... or The Grand Serpent (see Curse Of Fenric and Flux)
Funny enough I literally was just making a coffee and was thinking about the grand serpent.. the only one that hasn't crossed my mind until now.
Chronovore? Maybe the link to the 3rd Doctor era is because he left some Tardis materials behind in UNIT?
Interesting ❤ I think it's the same Sutekh. It's just more to his story. Perhaps he disguised himself as a member of the Osirians and destroyed their planet. And Horus and the other Osirians realize what he really was. They used their combined might to subdued him and imprisoned him on Earth in a pyramid and left the eye of Horus a talisman to hold him. By the time the fourth Doctor encountered him. He was in a weaken state not anything like he is now in latest episode of the current Doctor the 15th, played by Ncuti Gawta ( I'm sorry if I spelled that wrong) . I think they are one in the same Sutekh. It's just in the pyramid of Mars he was a powered down version. The latest is at his full strength. Great Intel. Very thought provoking.
Just watched the episode
YOUR RIGHT!!!!!
See I don’t think sutekh because this season has been about different gods. Sutekh acted like a god but was ultimately just a powerful alien. Also at the end of pyramids of mars when the doctor and Sarah Jane trapped him in the time corridor. It was also said he died by the doctor advancing the time suggesting he is mortal and ultimately is dead. The noises I think are from the Tardis trying to contain the memories in fob watch and the noises are this struggle of the Tardis. I think it created it the memory Tardis console room as means to contain but feel like it will spill over.
Characters die and come back a lot in Doctor Who, such as The Master and the Toymaker.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 but the masters thing has always been how h escapes death and the toymaker is not dead merely “suspended”
well well well..
@@leejjjjjjj1 yea but it doesn’t make sense he is just a powerful alien and suddenly he is a god , toymakwr talked about turning worlds to spinning etc sutekh was never that strong and died in the classic series - so many questions which I hope they answer in part too. I didn’t know he was “god of seat” I had said somewhere else empire of death was prob his of death and death waits for no man but still don’t get how they made the leap to sutekh
@@markcolgan3262 no no i agree with your point completely, i just thought it was funny how wrong you were
Well done.
Isn’t it more likely that using a villain’s magic hammer, to “cheat” and make a new TARDIS, is going to be a monkey’s claw? How can that be consequence-free!
It was made out that they both still had a "prize" to collect after winning the toymakers game, the tardis splitting was the prize but at what cost?
The same way there are no consequences for all the other Doctors and their TARDISes flying through space and time, I imagine. (Except when they enter the same space, as in Time Crash)
Besides, the TARDIS started showing these problems before the split.
@@TheRantingCynic
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Okay but now that we know sutekh has been latched onto the tardis for a good long while now, what effect could splitting the tardis in two have had on that? Did sutekh stay with 15's tardis or is he with both?
@@grantryder352 After the Giggle aired, RTD said that an upcoming story would prove that 15's TARDIS is the original. I'm assuming this two-parter is that story, so I'd say Sutekh stayed with 15's TARDIS and 14's is fine?
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You called it. Nice 😎
I honestly think this is going to be an entirely new villain. There is no specific link to any past villain. I believe the 3rd Doctor link is the old TARDIS parts in unit hq and Sussan Twist trying to construct a TARDIS out of it. That's it.
I am on board with this theory, works with the overall series as we have had all new villains for the full series so far..
Well, looks like you've kinda nailed it
the Sidats where the time machines deployed with the War Chief's Warlords so it could be the Warlords making a comeback.
I bring Sutekhs gift of liking and subscribing to all humanity.
Thank You it is appreciated :)
I hope Big Finish gets to do 'Box of Terrors'
I can’t be the only one that thinks the image at 3:53 looks like a VOC from Robot, right? The red eyes, the layered clothing, the fluffy hair on her left side…? I’m looking for a third doctor trail though, so I’m not sure
Don't know if this means anything, but the Tardis appears to have been breaking since Flux.
The TARDIS didn't land right when the doctor met davros' assistant on skaro...
DAMN YOU WERE RIGHT!!! GOOD JOB SMARTIEEE
The trouble is, when they meet, Susan says Doctor Who? So she can't be someone who knows him.... Maybe.
My thought process for the big bad is half Sutekh, and half The Trickster (Character Re-design)
Now wouldn't that actually be interesting.. like a hybrid..
@@TardisTalks Sorry, I meant half of me thinks it’s The Trickster, and the other half of me thinks it’s Sutekh. A hybrid would also be interesting though
@@liam3791Why not both? Especially if The One Who Waits and The Oldest One are separate entities (A lot of people conflate them, but I didn't get that impression. I'm probably wrong though.)
@@TheRantingCynic Both would be a good idea too
Third Doctor inferno universe Doctor who escaped to the ordinary Doctor's universe. He still has the blocks put in place to stop him from full access to the secrets of time travel. He is fixated on the last person he had any connection to, his version of Susan Foreman. Ruby Sunday is a fail-safe agent to stop the Inferno Doctor, hidden away because of the Time War(s). The episodes of this series have been training Ruby Sunday about who her target is: her target is a mental development stunted fascist who has a horrendous plan that would set at least the Earth on fire. And being with the regular Doctor is training her how to sense her target, when she remembers. She might also have some connection or resemblance to someone in the Inferno Doctor's family.
Correct.. she(our beautiful blue box)has not been acting or working/flying right, since Loudmouth,errrr I mean Donna lol,spilled that coffee on the console..
Even after she's spilt it,IS SHE BOTHERED??😂🤣🤪😑✌️🍻
my fave skits btw,is when shes dressed as Gran!!🥰
I just thought some of the landings were cause 15th messed around
Wait, if Sutekh was surrounding the tardis before it was doubled, does that mean he was doubled too?
:O Imagine the terror?
Is this a timey Whimey thing where you thank me for the comment in the description before I’ve made it below the video? 😄
What if I don’t comment? Huh?…oh wait.
Well can only learn from the doctor and thought id pull a fast one on ya :P
But Spoilers shhh... 😄
One thing is the tardis was doing this weird landing BEFORE the star beast; in the children in need short special, 14 lands the tardis on Davros space station just before Genesis of the Daleks
(although I'm still hoping there's an actual explanation for the tardis landing like this bc I really don't like it)
There is no way the toymacker would run from sutekh. Sutekh is from this universe and he isnt it will be another god probably who jodie encountered i cant remember his name.
Her last name is triad in the credits
Probably will be the Trickster or an secret cybermen invasion knowing RTD but if it is Sutekh I’ll still be excited about it
cybermen ?
At this point I literally just wanna know who it is and I don't think ill be disappointed regardless haha.
Damn dude
Also in a tenth doctor episode where the tardis takes a female form does she not say she's allergic to coffee?
I don't think she was allergic but I think she prefers tea.. I would need to watch that episode again to be sure.
Can someone 1 please explain the difference between a galaxy and a universe because you showed a pic of a galaxy in a universe witch is what I understand
A galaxy is a huge collection of gas, dust, and billions of stars and their solar systems, all held together by gravity. The Universe is all of space, matter, energy, time, and its contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy. It is everything! (hard to have an image of🤣)
@@TardisTalks thanks so you showed a pic of a galaxy then.
Tbh I don't think its sutekh I really don't now but whos bigger or just as powerful as the toy maker?
There's only 1 player i dare face, the 1 who waits i saw it and I ran'' thats some 1els's game.
Its also suspect that the toy maker says some 1 not some thing ??
I am really leaning more and more towards new villains entirely...
@@TardisTalks I suspect some 1 new for the toymaker to run away from it. It shows he was afraid and the toymaker to be afraid takes some doing so we shall see.
Let's see what rtd has in Store he doesn't tend to disappoint
Still convinced she is the great intelligence
I don't think it's Sutekh. I was combing through the list of classic third Doctor episodes and their synopsises on Wikipedia and I think it could be Kronos the chronovore. Probably recontextualized as part of the pantheon. That's my best guess if it's a returning third Doctor villain. Otherwise it's a new character. There is talk that it could be the god of time who happens to be the sister of the Toymaker or whatever. The details escape me but there is already a pantheon god of time.
Hecuba is who you would be referring to as the Queen of Time, I have covered her in a video.. It is quite a convincing one.
@@TardisTalks Yes absolutely, Hecuba.
The tardis also crashes in destination skaro
Well spotted I did forget about this Minisode :(
@@TardisTalks I appreciate a lot that the series mystery isn’t just confined to THIS SERIES like bad wolf or torchwood ect
When came from the bew episode and you thought that the villain would be the devil.... And the it turns out to be sutekh... Oh yeah thats me...
When they are clever they go back to the Flux and how it was their Crisis on Infinite Earths. This new reality the doctor is in would explain a lot, the Flux created it and the Pantheon saw their chance and formed that new reality. But that is wishful thinking because this Disney Who follows the Star Trek 2.0 formula, but it is a lot better because the writers understand what they do. But you can clearly tell from the entire new style that it’s a new era. Good or bad we will see.
Not the Shalka Doctor!!!
Its The Great Intelligence, he emtered the Doctor's timestream on Trenzalore.
This.. could really make sense...
Oh dear… good try on your guess. Wonder how RTD will explain this
How about Omega?
Don't see it either if I am honest.
@@TardisTalks Yeah. I've been theorising Omega purely because he kinda fits. When Susan has horns (that sentence only works in a Doctor Who situation 😂). It looks like the Omega icon on her head, he is essentially responsible for Timelord powers and time travel and stuff.
He, The Doctor and Rassilon could be the triad
I don't know cause of Omega's backstory it would involve a full retcon...
as one of my other commenters said "Failing that Omega would make a lot of sense, although fans of the Timeless Child concept will need to perform some mental gymnastics to make sense of it." Haha
@@TardisTalks True I guess. Although RTD seems to have retconned The Shalka Doctor...MAYBE, just maybe Omega will show up, failing that, I have no idea.
@@TardisTalksWhy would there need to be a retcon? The Timeless Children and The Three Doctors don't contradict each other. The former established the origins of regeneration and that eventually they became Time Lords (not that regeneration made them Time Lords). This discovery was the first domino, and down the line Omega still does his thing, the Gallifreyans get time travel, and become the Time Lords. No retcon for Omega's backstory needed.
None of the above
This video is proof you don't have to be right to be right.
You really know your d..t
But RTD
has spoken about the Spearhead from Space is important.
Ant p
Or is he just misdirecting and pulling our leg? that literally could have been a list of the top 5 faves he likes.. we just don't know with RTD haha.
Why spearhead? If that's so, Autons, Master? Bessie?
Ohhhhhh, Liz!!!
The events of season 6B, perhaps🤣
The vibe I got from RTD's list was thematic parallels more than necessarily plot relevance (excepting Church on Ruby Road). Spearhead from Space because of UNIT, Bells of Saint John because there's trouble surrounding a sketchy tech company and the woman in charge, A Good Man Goes To War because of the importance of who the daughter is to the story, etc.
In other words if you want to get the feel of the finale, those episodes are collectively comparable.
I could be wrong, obviously, but that's just the interpretation I got.
Rude spelling correction of the word "Interruption"
Hmmm.. oops..
When the tardis starts dying with an alive doctor off to the big bang she goes to join her previous selves in the elephant graveyard of both ends of the time vortex and reality starts anew again.
Erm… maybe?
@@eccremocarpusscaber5159 It's happened to the tardis before.
Would we really need s Big Bang 3 story though?
I hope it's the trickster or the great intelligence
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This video aged well 😂
I wanted to go down a different route of what everyone else was saying
and at the end of the day Theory videos are just made for fun and the hopes that we might get a lucky guess.. And if you're wrong, who cares because it was a theory..
@TardisTalks sorry I might not have communicated the context of what I was getting at right - it was super late here! 😅
I was musing on the fact you're one of the only tubers I've seen mentioning sutekh before the episode aired, and turns out it was him all along - almost prophetic but as the video goes on you transition into why it's not gonna be him, so a double chuckle.
Anyways, enjoyed the vid and didn't mean to come across as bitchy, more like "huh, how bout dat" 🤣
WHELP
Why ffs would you put spoilers like that in the title.
this was made before the episode :|
can’t be spoiler if it was a theory which turned out to be correct
HAHAHA!
Nah. It's sutekh.
I won't mind if it is, great villain I just don't see it, its too obvious like a proper misdirection.
Tardis dying again. They really are out of ideas
They are now setting fire to the ashes of this great show
Cope
The most important thing is to find out if Sue is a lesbian :)
Why would this be important?
Everyone is gay now if you are not you are trashed. How sad sexuality has become so toxic.
The Tardis is dying of embarrassment because of the utter garbage the show has become in the current series.
Then don't watch this video just to spread your negativity
Shut up
The show is as popular as ever.
No absolutely it is not RTD has trashed his opportunity
Cope harder dork