Doctor Who: "The Legend of Ruby Sunday" | Breakdown and Theories!
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- Join me as we dive into the penultimate episode of Doctor Who - The Legend of Ruby Sunday. We'll break down the trailer and explore some theories, Whether you're a die-hard Whovian or a casual viewer, there's something here for everyone.
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What's your theory for the overall series finale?
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I just had a thought. I believed when this season started this doctor's "thing" would be he's happier than most Doctors. But now I'm thinking it's actually his emotions are heightened. That's why he's not only excited, but also cries and looks shocked a lot.
They didn't notice Susan in space babies either so your reason for the devil's chord not being included doesn't make sense. Also we have seen the TARDIS land properly a few times this season but you could still be right with the majority of it
@@philosotree5876 He did make a point in the first two episodes of saying or displaying he was afraid. Perhaps suggesting he instinctually (if not intellectually) knows something is wrong with the Universe... Maybe on some level 'aware' of the fourth wall breaks.
@@MrRjhyt I think the idea of characters knowing they're in fiction is stupid because fictional characters cannot perceive anything.
But maybe they are on the tricksters stage - the one he used puppets to show companion “deaths”
hope people remember that 'Susan twist' is an actress... the 'real name' of the character may soon be shown... it all depends on the show writers strange imagination!!! :) :)
Yeah I think after this she may need a name change haha but Susan Triad will eventually be her character name I hope.
Remember when the Darleks emerged from "Time Lord technology"? Now we have S Triad technology - S TRIAD = TARDIS. So, Tardis technology
Honestly, Hecuba is the best theory I've heard so far. (Sorry, Sutekh and Omega lovers.)
I think the scene where Kate says, 'Whatever it is, it's coming through," might be the last scene - the cliffhanger, and we'll have to wait for Empire of Death to find out what's coming through.
I dont think the Doctor or Ruby actually saw Susan in Space Babies, they turn away just as she comes onto the screen. But I'm all for the entire season being Ruby's dreams, controlled by Susan Triad. (Im also pretty sure Susan is just a new character, not a returning anything)
The doctor split the tardis in the giggle. We never see it travel. It’s having indigestion. S. Triad is an anagram of Tardis. Reflection in the doctors eyes looks like the windows of the tardis. The horns image looks like an “evil version” of the Susan triad. Maybe the valyard version of the tardis…she’s always there because the tardis is there. Is ruby part of the tardis too??
The One Who Waits is almost here!
Edit: I thought there were similarities in Kate's demeanor when she said "Whatever it is, here it comes" and when she said "Disengage". I think the big bad of this season will tie back to 73 Yards somehow. I don't think that was a throw away episode at all.
I agree we will learn more about what happened in 73 Yards.
@@saucermcfly there is a lot more info is the 'doctorwho:unleashed' for that episode..
I heard that the time window is a thing that only appeared in the sarah jane adventures, so thats more credence for the trickster. I honestly think itll be the trickster AND sutekh. Hecuba propably not, that wasnt really a woman's face I think, plus itll be a weird pull when most fans propably never heard of her
Another way of describing the Time Window is the Time-Space Visualiser, which was first seen in the First Doctor story "The Chase"… It is a part of the TARDIS, so perhaps also something developed by S TRIAD Technology? And if S TRIAD Technology is rearranged, it reads TARDIS Technology…
YES. I had a suspicion that it could feature two villains in one story. There has been more villains than one in finales before such as Doomsday, The Pandorica Opens and, most recently, Power Of The Doctor.
The sand in the main trailer and the new mysterious Tales Of The Tardis episode makes sense for Sutekh.
But Ruby singing the Trickster’s theme in The Devil’s Chord and the scrapped Sarah Jane Adventures plot line for Sky that is suspected to be reused, adds up to the Trickster as well.
I haven’t seen the Pyramids of Mars yet so correct me if I’m wrong, but I wonder if the Trickster has set this all up to free Sutekh and cause chaos all across the universe.
@@KroanC maybe , maybe not. sutekh is the destroyer, an evil god who's powerful enough to frighten the toymaker , if ruby is indeed the daughter, it's more likely the trickster becomes an unlikely ally to save his daughter. the 2nd part title 'empire of death' sounds like sutekh trying to eradicate all life and maybe we'll see more surprising allies
@@fmvgamer2010 but sutekh was just a powerful alien not a god and as he wasn’t a go when the doctors and Sarah Jane trapped him in the time corridor they said themselves he died indicating he was mortal and gods are more likely to be immortal. More chance of it being a time lord. Maybe third doctor bigenerated (that’s the secret) and if the rumours about some one playing third doctor are true could easily explain away a face being different and also could be where Valeyard comes from. Also it could be from the bigeneration we get fugitive doctor somewhere. It could be at that point the doctors memories were wiped and put in fob watch
It's the TARDIS in the Doctor's eyes. You can see all of the windows
Halfway through but needed to write this down while I remember. The only plothole with the Ruby and dream theory is Susan Twist first appeared with the 14th Doctor at the beginning of Wild Blue Yonder 😅
The Time Windows have been mentioned in The Girl In The Fireplace. I think the mountains seen in behind Susan Twist’s character remind me of Outer Gallifrey.
"Bad Wolf"
I feel like the sparks to the TARDIS is that it's not even travelling the vortex right either. Typically The TARDIS is hovering directly in the middle of the vortex tunnels as it shows stability. The TARDIS is sick so it's almost grazing off the edges of the vortex as it can't even keep itself up. That's why we fly outta the vortex often and wobble. It can't even land properly and just materialises/crashes into places. Similar to Jodies where it goes from flying to FORCING its way out, this TARDIS can't help but graze the side of the tunnel and just choose to exit outta exaustion.
Ncuti no longer calls the TARDIS sexy as Matt Smith did so she is throwing a tantrum
@@lorrainesheridan496maybe sexys mad she’s split
The face with red eyes clearly belongs to Gabriel Woolf. Compare the two.
And RTD has a habit of having a classic villain reappear in his finales.
And what about Susan Triad Technologies = Sue Tech = Sutekh
It’s a RTD classic word play like YANA.
And for the robotics, it surely has to be mummies if this theory of mine is correct. And my last piece of evidence: There’s the shot of The Doctor and Mel escaping a sand storm with a motorbike and the dust and darkness taking over the planets with Ncuti screaming.
Sand, Dust and Darkness, Sue Tech, Woolfs face? Yeah looks like Sutekh to me.
You can look at that from a different perspective and say
RTD knows we know he likes to use word play so he has;
- Hired Susan Twist simply for her name
- Changed her last name to Triad as S Trias is an anagram for Tardis
- S Triad Technologies - Tardis Technology
- If you actually look at the branding Susan is not in it, it's always S Triad or just Triad so really you can't put Susan and Technologies together on screen you can only do this is you know her name is Susan and you take tech from her company. = Suetekh, So S Triad standing for Tardis Tech is just a stronger theory.
@@TardisTalks I think we’re both kinda right. I think some power uses Susan to create a TARDIS. Remember, Sutekh wanted to use the TARDIS back in Pyramids of Mars.
I don't think Ruby remembers Twist's character from "73 Yards", likely more from the screen in "Space Babies".
A Susan directly spoke to Ruby in _The Church on Ruby Road_ as well.
in The Doctor who episode Carnival of Monsters the doctor lands in Miniscope, a machine that keeps miniaturised groups of creatures in miniaturised versions of their natural environments. Check out that Third Doctor adventure. Maybe every adventure has been in a Antimatter universe
I thought her first appearance was meant to be in 'Wild Blue Yonder', where she commands Newton to not come back without having a good idea. Eager to observe a foundational scientific moment in the flesh. The moment spoiled by an unapologetic Donna and 14, who laugh off their interaction with a fixed point!? Or the mavity/gravity could be hiding some other insight from Newton, with the Doctor sudden appearance inspiring Time as well as gravity. Anyway, I hope that Russell surprises us all. My suspicion might be more along the 'City of Death' line, with her character being splintered through time, and maybe 'somehow' communicating... Clearly she has some Temporal powers.
They been gave us her name wow when they sing "theirs always a twist at the end"
There literally is a Twist at the end hah
Or could be a more advanced Tardis gone nuts?
the TARDIS lands weird whenever it's around CARLA too... and someone made me notice Carla recognized THE BEAST's voice
The close up on the eyes, suggests the console room, to me...
Is it me or y'know when Susan has horns? (Only in Doctor Who would that sentence be normal). Does anyone think they form the Greek alphabetical symbol for... Omega
Susan Twist looks like a borg 😂
A lot of inspiration from the MCU this season, I think
Knowing RTD he would probably try to sneak in an secret cybermen invasion just like back in season 2 or but if not hopefully it will be the Trickster from SJA
14:43 that shot isn’t someone glowing it’s Susan twist with a spotlight on her you can tell just look at the other trailer and you can see here outfit in full view and it’s the same colours
Its got the trickster written all over it
Could it really be that simple though?
@@TardisTalks no nothing is that simple but I spent 3 hours breaking down everything last night after dr who and it had the trickster written all over it for me.
I can't wait il tell you that
When zoomed into his eyes, to me looks like the tardis. We already know s triad is an anagram for tardis. What if she just straight up built a tardis and instead of them being cylindrical tubes without the chameleon circuit the base frame is just a police box. So he’s so shocked because she built his tardis.
If Mell is going to start screaming, I need to get some earplugs! Bonnie Langford can Really Hit The High Notes!
Yeah please no 😂
11 seconds into the trailer, that medallion looks like a serpent. As we are at UNIT HQ is the Grand Serpent making a comeback?
I still have a feeling Ruby’s mother is Marti. The name is called out as odd. It means Mars. Queen of time is quite possible. But I am also thinking there may be multiple big bads. The god of the sea people I think mentioned in the deamons third doctor episode is a strong candidate big bad for me.
Any speculation on the figure behind and to the left of Ruby?
Think it’s possible that Susan Triad could be some kind of cyborg created by either Sutekh or the Trickster. Sutekh made robot Mummies in Pyramids of Mars so he has a history in robotics. Susan could look demonic cos Sutekh is another name for Satan if I’m not mistaken. Like the idea of Sutekh and the Trickster working together.
Cool dissection of the trailer.
I'm eager to see the finale, but I'm also eager for a lot of answers that probably will come in further series.
Like the meep and his boss. ( This baddy got so much a gremlin vibe from the start, one should have guess he would turn out to be evil ). Is it the same boss as Rogue new boss... and about Rogue.. Where did he land ? Will we see some of him in the future ? I'm rooting for this, he's like a mystery box with still may unanswered questions.
How long will he be waiting for the doctor... And saying this I'm like could he end up being the "One who wait". Because you know, he might end up waiting a while, plus is in another dimension. And he plays DnD. He could have been the one offering a game to the Toymaker, though I don't really see how the Toymaker would be afraid of him... unless something changed in his nature and made him very powerful.
But then I think someone made a mention about him earlier in the season and that would have things really out of order.
But well, I love wild theory, sometimes you just stumble upon the correcte one.
( For the fun fact, based on the ingame informations I had access too in the DnD campaign I'm playing, I correctly theorized that my character would be a powerful sword-artifact important to the lore, despite being thought to be human at the begining of the campaign.
The way I build my reasoning was sooo wild.
It was like "yes so the artifact of the "key" was instead a cape, so considering people are trying to kidnap my character with a letter saying the kidnapers should "test her blood" and that I had this one dream about a tree with a blood-sowrd coming out of it, and the fact the stone gardian of the dwarves city refused to let me enter despite the fact I had removed all of my weapons, ... could it be that "I" register has a weapon, and then coming from there...
And then so much happen ingame I kind of forgot this theory and the DM planted loads of red-hearing pointing towards the idea I was the daughter of the creator of the swords... until someone said the magical word and I turned into the sword. xD
MY character still hasn't aknowledge the fact she really is the sword and is in full denial mode. )
the sparks could it be space lightning ?
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@@TardisTalks Pleasure! Can't waiiit for the season finale!
@@gene1131 Me Either :P
The "Triangles/Pyramids/Mountains" To me, it looks more like glaciers, with sheets of ice. This is part of the reason I am so worried that Ruby will be the "Spirit of Christmas" making Susan Twist's character we see in that shot, most likely Krampus. Again, I do NOT want to see that happen, but it is a worry of mine.
Reflected in the Doctor's eyes aren't just a bunch of lights. I can easily make out the TARDIS.
There is another trailer in which we see Susan Twist's character standing in the middle of the stage, so, yeah that's her all lit up. It could easily be the same time that the Doctor is seeing the TARDIS (see above), and that being why Mel is calling for him.
Overall, that moment of The Doctor opening the doors to the TARDIS, but it literally just being the doors without what appears to be the rest of the TARDIS, overlooking empty space is how we will end this series, on a cliffhanger. The Doctor, all alone (with the possible exception of Mel, but as originally it was a different background but recent trailers it appears to be the current inner TARDIS, who knows) having lost... Lost whatever was happening, lost Ruby, lost everything... Maybe we finally get to see Gatwa get to use his emotional range we can practically smell him capable of, that they've been beating around the bush for it. They haven't quite gotten down writing for his Doctor yet. I've seen some lines and even direct scenes written more for Tennant, some Smith, a lot of Capaldi, and some Whittaker. While Gatwa pulls it all off well, he's got a lot more talent that they are not writing specifically for. This is not a slam. For example, we saw the same with Smith ("The Beast Below" was really more of a Tennant-styled episode, though Smith did wonderfully), and we also saw it with Capaldi (you cannot tell me that the Robinhood episode wasn't written as a Matt Smith episode). They just have to find their groove with his acting talents.
I would Prefer Krampus be a Christmas special type villain myself. But I do understand your point
@@barker-chanvlogs4582 As I would put every single cent I have to bet that the scene of The Doctor screaming into space is the final scene, and a cliffhanger. As such, it could EASILY be picked up on in the Christmas Special. So, we get the horned version of Twist at the very end, she defeats the Doctor, and we get told Ruby's secret. But before anyone can think a half second about it, Twist's character steals Ruby (and possibly reality) away... the Doctor having to go save Ruby. And us getting the full reveal of what it actually means during the Christmas Special.
But in Disney trailer with Mel behind doctor screaming into space when Mel moves forward to him the other person u can just make out as ruby.
She looks like a Game of Thrones white walker.
that ice world still is clearly just a nod to white walkers from game of thrones the same as the borg reference right after. it is RTD referencing the biggest sci-fi and fantasy series within his own sci-fi/fantasy series.
8:20: it looks like the knightking from game of thrones 😂
Its way to many questions i like it lol what if ruby reaches the woman she turns around and says hello sweetie because ruby is her daughter with the doctor from the singing towers time they spent and she hid her from the trickster that would be wild not gonna happen but wild 😅
Is this the return of Eldrad?
Eldrad MUST live!!
9:49 I read an absolutely ridiculous theory somewhere that, that demon and cyborg figure, was actually Morgan and the Destroyer (of Battlefield) from a parallel universe. it's just won't be! lol
I going to be honest and say I won’t be happy to be reveal that it was all a dream. I hate those sort of stories, always seem to be a cheap ending and means the whole series meant “nothing”.
For me it’s the trickster being the big bad villain (also guessing Ruby is also his child)and Susan is being used as a puppet (seems like she didn’t mean for this happen) and so he put Susan wherever both Ruby and the Doctor appeared and making her a different person each time, to create a trap/lure for the doctor to go back to unit (as it seems like that why he going back to unit and not for Ruby pass) as the trickster knew he would be interested on why this person appears everywhere they go. So trickster is using Susan as a puppet, and using the triad technology as well to create it more believe able. Looks like if this is the case that Susan is able to see her being used whenever she sleeping. Idk i just clueless but this is my personal head canon.
I agree with you that I loving that we barely know anything going in. I thought that Susan is just going be a red herring but looks like it’s not the case (or knowing Russell he just trolling us again lol).
My personal feeling on this is.
Somethings to do with maybe the 3rd doctor inferno we know thats from another reality.
There is a 3rd doctor infulance somewhere in this series
But maybe hecuba or indeed omega.
If it was omega it could be invoking superstion with salt, myth througout the universe a god the god of timelords left in anti matter world a god like figure dying left in the world. Clawing enough energy to form a body for a moment who is left to wait.
But hecuba seems super pluasible queen of time an avatar of a women throgught time.
Its do hard to know what we are looking at
I think you got it ❤ Love this answer Susan is a Primord
Cyborg Mummies???
I just watched the Sutekh serial from classic who... and then watched the previous serial
: Planet of the dead.... far from the farthest reaches in Tennant's episode, they indeed thread things done by Tom Baker there ... reaching the end of the universe, same thing as in Wild blue yonder. And that was just before sh*t happened with sutehk BOTH times now. What did happen in planet of the dead? they go on a colorful planet with plants. SOOOOO when Dawan as the Dotor was on that planet... he might have found Sutekh! Hence why he found with the Toymaker !!! WOW just stumbled upon this by luck friends!
HI Isn't Triads An anagram of Tardis ?
S TRIAD - Tardis and TRIADS - Tardis so both work 😊
But why are the sparks important?
Wait, mountains in the snow... Frozen, could it be a planet frozen in time?
I am not sure but I think it's a visible representation of there being something up with the tardis.
@@TardisTalks Most likely, I'm just not sure what exactly
@@BigEvil02 Something is causing it to act differently.. that leads into the who? and it potentially could not be answered until season 2...
@@TardisTalks Sounds most likely.
Could be that the Tardis is being Manipulated but in a subtle that the doctor doesn’t noticed? I not sure tho
Thanks mate SU garden
No problem 👍
@@TardisTalks my pleasure there is always a twist in the end SU garden
Cuz the doctor daughter name is Susan
Terminator nah looks like a Borg!
I really think it's the doctor daughter Susan. Using a fake name
It is a TARDIS.
The ruby dream theory Doesn’t explain why she was I wild blue yonder????
I suppose.. I did overlook that oops...
She does also encourage him to wait for a big insight, inspiration. Clearly, she's aware of what he's about to discover... if not for the out of control time-lord, in his crashing tardis. It does also crash in the Children in Need short, so is that... significant?!? They also talk about the significance of the music playing, as it goes off to war...
Scaroth / Count Scarlioni
I think because we met Susan in WBY, she’s not supernatural
Met her PRE salt
But of she can move through time.. That would still work.. Maestro and The Toymaker were both Pre Salt also in 1925...
Looking at the eyes is not useful because it’s not real. He’s not going to be looking at an actual thing, it’s on a tv set.
Love your videos but kinda lost me saying the most "doctor who" episode was an episode of Bridgerton 😂
Thank You for watching 📺😊, When I said this it was more towards the format for this episode, it was structured very well and very similar to the older episodes of new who 🙂
I feel like the older episodes spent more time explaining the bad guys, the motivations, the plan to defeat the bad guys. This episode to me felt like everything "doctor who" was put on the back burner so two older ladies could write a fan fiction. Like can you tell me anything about the bad guys apart from they're birds who know cosplay 100s of years before it's inception. The older doctor who episodes would have at least acknowledged such a obvious issue. There's no explanation on 90% of the episode
You mentioned Hecuba is associated with the colour purple. The sparks from the Tardis look purple to me, not red or blue.
Maybe that supports the Hecuba theory?
It could do...
Season 26 episode battlefield morgaine le fey is Imprisoned by unit she could have got freed
It all sounds great but the trailers are all heading for a big bad surely someone like Omega or Sutekh
But are they really bigger than the Toymaker? Statistically the Toymaker is much more clever and powerful.
Boom 😂😂😂😂😂 hahaha he said bum
They ruined this show. I've been watching Dr. Who for 16 years. Its had some rough patches but my god, its so bad. The show has always been a little cringey and thats okay. But wow! I salute those that can still watch this trash.
Its not Hecuba ffs, that makes no thematic sense whatsoever.
It makes as much sense as Sutekh does..
Rogue... Aliens with no plan. Bad make up. The Doctor doing absolutely nothing. People died, because Ncuti was horny.
How can you say this felt like a typical Doctor Who episode?
This was terrible. Worse than Timelash, Fear Her, Horns Of Nimon, Love & Mosters...
I'd rather watch The Twin Dilemma.
To be fair out of this full season it is the most like a typical doctor who episode we have had yet..
@@TardisTalks most like RTD, Moffat & Chibnall, yes. I prefer "classic" Who.
For me, "typical" would be Androzani, Hand Of Fear, Weng Chiang, Fenric, Varos... Not Fear Her🤣🤣🤣
Looks like more trash, have not watched any of the new who woke gay crap
You are a Nazi. Gays, Lesbians and bisexuals are natural. Stop you christen bullshit. Bisexual are different to transgender. Ruby is not the first bisexual companion. The first bisexual companions was Captain Jack. Then you had Rory, Amy, Ryan and Yas. The only gay character in doctor who was Bill Pots. You think this is gay it not. It is LGBT but not gay. Having an openly bisexual companion like Yas and Ruby is good. If you been paying attention you would notice that Ruby is not gay but bisexual. In devil corde she dances with both a man and a woman. In 73 yards she’s had a kid. Firstly Ruby was attracted to Perry she stayed with the doctor. If you are bisexual you would notice that she was not completely gay. Then in the other one she Rejected a man for not being bisexual. Bisexual prefer other bisexual. Bisexual is different from transsexual. Bisexual means you are attracted to both gender. Trans means you where previously the opposite gender to what you are now. Plus the most recent episode where she was playing along to find out the childer plan.