Hey Mark. Its a buddy from across the pond. Don't be afraid to pre press some joints! For example you could've pressed your 2 90s together with the piece that went into the coupling. Then just put it into the coupling and moved it to the orientation you wanted then just press the coupling in place. Less moving parts. But like you said press takes a little pre thought especially in some tricky spots. You'll get it man! Keep killing it!
Great video. So nice to see a down to earth plumber who’s got pride in his job and other peoples jobs too. Well done deffo good with customers. Great bathroom by the way too 👍👍👏👏
Cracking video Mark. Your customers are lucky to have you. Tbf most people aren't filming 🎥 so have two hands for press fit, same as you'd usually use 2 hands soldering.
I've been using the Rothenberger press tool for a few years now. I don't do the volume of plumbing you do and agree, they can twist a little on pressing. When you are stretching or in a floor void and can't always get your spare hand on the pipe/fitting to steady it. However, inside a unit/under a bath etc I think it's tidy. Much better than plastic in my option. I'd rather see press than compression even if in view. Keep up the great work 👌
I have not used press fit yet but using the tool to make the joint does seem a bit of a struggle in enclosed spaces where a push fit would have been much easier. For joints which are not connected to wet pipes good old end feed is neatest and a compression joint to the wet pipe!!
Top bathroom job buddy. Was thinking of trying pressfit but i cant see how it works aesthetically on show, great for underfloor work or in cupboards. Maybe one day when the insurances get ridiculously higher! Lol...
Very interesting video Mark good intro to press fit. You are a customers dream plumber you really are I’m sure a lot of plumbers would not have bothered coming back to sort those issues out. With reg to the shower pump you had a separate hot from the cylinder already fitted for the existing shower so you used that isn’t that right and I take it the cold was independently tank fed. Is 15 mm pipe ok then for those pump supplies inc cold from tank. Cheers great video you’ve done it again excellent material.
When i had my boiler changed i got the plumber to put me a megaflow hot water tank in, the showers are now perfect in our bathrooms now. well done mate you got this sorted in the end.
Hi Mark, the bathroom looks great in the end, that pump really changed the performance of that shower, excellent. I think the press fit was acceptable in that situation, it is out of sight and you could complete the job with water still in the pipe, so all good. I would have had to change the unit top too, as my ocd would not let me leave the damaged on in situ. I’m enjoying the press fit tutorials, another great film thank you, take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
Thanks Chris…. Yep the moment I spotted the problem it was going to be sorted. I actually knew about it before I filmed the last video with the bathroom…. Took me this long to get round to sorting it.
If i was the customer I would have just left that dent/imperfection, I think it was quite minor and a lot of effort to change that over but you did a really good job on it mark.
Another fine job Mark. Wish there were more plumbers like you around. I agree with the press fit argument they do look a bit chunky. Not as bad as compression but I would still prefer the soldered option.
It’s that customer service that makes all the difference. It takes dedication to give up a Saturday morning to a job that’s already broken the record for ballache per square foot. Plenty would have left it: it’s only a small thing, but your customer would have seen it twice a day for the next ten years or so and felt a tiny little twinge of disappointment every time. Now it’ll be a daily reminder that they chose the right person to do the job.
Persevere with the press fit mate. I think everyone has done what you have done. I know I have. The bathroom looks really good. It's always nice to have understanding customers 👍
Hi mate we fit composite worktops all the time in kitchens. We cut them with track saw and Jigsaw. We have had a lot lately with same sort ov imperfections. Believe it or not it is possible to sand out and re polish.. we are kitchen and bathroom fitters, been seriously thinking about getting press tool for onside cabinet's will be interesting to see how you get on. Keep up the top content 🤙🤙🤙
Yer I just wasn’t sure that the “dent” could of been sorted without the risk of having a low point. Press fit has been something I’ve wanted to try for ages but the cost was so much…. In the end I just thought why not
You sort of feather it out and make it a huge dent that's not so noticeable 🤔🤔. Well this is the way the manufacturer shows us how to deal with it. Seems to work well TBF. I have just never liked soldering inside of cabinets. My concerns are more about the space needed to get the tool in, I think the cost is not an issue as I think it would save you so much time. Would like to see you do a kitchen second fix if possible mate to see how you get on. Cheers Dave
There’s definitely a learning curve with press. I’ve found on my press gun if I’m trying to hold a pipe plumb with a level on it I can feather the trigger and not have it do the entire crimp in one punch but rather check the level mid way through the crimp cycle while the pipe is stiff but still has movement if it needs adjustment. Then finish the crimp. I’m not sure if all guns can stop mid way but I find that very useful. Also watch out that the jaw doesn’t interfere with another part of the fitting, one time I crushed the other side of a tee fitting where the gun forced itself into it and I had to cut out some work and start over. It definitely has its place but I can almost guarantee you will still be using your torch. By the way after 18 years of plumbing I’m two weeks into working for myself. Talk about a learning curve. My biggest challenge so far is scheduling myself and trying to get faster at paperwork!
100% I will be soldering still, can’t see press being the only way I work at all… Well done on making the switch to running your own business…. You won’t look back buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark. Yes that bathroom was nightmare for you. Looks really good through. Shower much better with the pump and wasn’t a nightmare because you planned ahead for it. Top is one those things mate. You sorted it through. Nice one Mark. Have a good week 👍
I would be interested in the longevity of pressfit. Copper is very soft any pipe hammer or movement in the pipe could result in distortion of the fitting.
If the worktop is wood you might of tried a warm iron ? My other observation was it looked a big house was the cylinder big enough when you added a pump ??
Pressure pump: are there no other versions available, such as in-line? So it will be straight in one end and straight out the other end, instead of this top in and top out?
Nice to hear a plumber saying Press Fit doesn't look great! I'm just a DIYer but do love plumbing. For years on YT and forums, plumbers have whinged and mocked solder ring for being a DIY job and looking horrendous yet they all seemed to love Press Fit and jump all over it 🤣 I get its application and pro points but I think its over used for general work and is just more expensive but that's probably why plumbers want to go that way.
Hello Mark really good to see the level of customer service you have provided here. Bit of a blow to see this type of fault in the first place, after doing everything right! I think every fitter would done the same thing and left the film on untill it was fitted. Only to find the little fault when you removed it. All done now and sure the customer would have appreciated it. Those press fit fittings worked well in this scenario. No risk of scorch marks or need to get water out of pipes before soldering. The only thing I would have done different would have been to use a couple of offsets instead of all those elbows. Appreciate you were trying to show everyone your new press though 😂
Lovely job in the end. Being a diy plumber for over 40 years I've loved the changes that have taken place, except for the price. Pressfit is great in some situations, but expensive and really just for the tradesman. Although I'm just a diyer, Ive seen some absolutely awful work by so called plumbers tbh, but also excellent jobs as well. You're obviously one of the good ones. Nice one mate.
Hi Mark I'm about to hang up my boots and I'm not having that press fit end of! What's wrong with push fit and if you want copper fittings use techtite. Also please go back to that job and take the valve off the expansion its giving me nightmares 😂😂
As always mark love the vlogs and appreciate the knowledge sharing. I just wanted to ask a question as to why the shower requires a shower pump? Im thinking about my own house or my mums and none of them have a shower pump.
Great video, I don't know if its just me or if its just that maybe your not to used to press yet but it just seems like a bit of a faff. I actually enjoy soldering find it quite relaxing in a way. Its interesting to see how you find it I'm only an apprentice and have never tried it but it is still good to see what its like to use for the future.
I think it’s totally that I’m not used to it yet…. I’ve done it/used it twice!!!!…. It’s like learning a new skill as it’s not just pressing a button as I’m trying to show… so in a way it’s coming across exactly how it is👍🏼👍🏼 I agree, I enjoy soldering more than press
@@MJTiffPlumbing yea I always thought that it would be really easy and all that but I think from watching your videos you have to think about it and be more strategic than soldering. Its great that you can use it even with water in the pipes.
Should've used them random 45's in your fitting box to make an offset of sorts. 😂 Good education on press. I'd be interested to know longer term if you stick with it how it affects your pricing. Jobbing jobs the time saved might equal another job done so it'd pay for itself, but bigger jobs on day rate with lots of fittings might be a different story I guess. I can see the advantage definitely for pipes with water in them, and for mlcp you've got no choice, but for newbies starting out its a luxury to aim for.
Hi Mark. Continuing to enjoy your videos. Just a comment about the choice of shower pump: Personally, I would have opted for a universal pump. Reason being is that the choice of pump isn't necessarily the location of the pump in relation to the tank in the loft, but the distance between the base of the tank in the loft and the shower outlet. It might well be that the head pressure from the rain shower is so poor it might not be sufficient to operate the flow switch in the pump. Many people with positive head showers with this sort of set up find they have to start the shower by firstly diverting to the hand held sprayer, removing it from the holder then directing it downwards. Also, is that an isolation valve I can see on the hot water draw-off before the vent?
Glad to hear that, Mark. It's just something I've come across a few times. It's usually not an issue to begin with while the flow switch is nice and new, but the issues start when the flow switch ages a bit.
Nice work as ever. I’m not a fan of fitting those worktops as the ‘it can go wrong factor’ is high. I’ve cut them with a decent circular saw blade. Goes through them like butter. I was surprised but got advice from a granite worktop bloke
I think that is one of my biggest lessons you have to be prepared to go back to a job if something goes wrong like that and in most cases you wont get paid a second time, which is only fair.
I get customer to buy everything that can be seen in a finished install. That way if there is a problem it's not my fault and to correct is at additional cost.
Fine grade sandpaper would never remove a dent as it does not offer enough of a cut, it might hide it but with the light at the right angle you'll still be able to see it and always been able to feel it's still there. You would need to start with a low grit sandpaper to flatted the surface out and then work up to remove the scratch marks by which point you would have broken threw the finish layer. looking threw the comments I agree with yourself and most others on how bad press fit looks, I don't even think they really look industrial they are just plain right to big and meh. I would much rather see solider fittings. I think the Yorkshire fittings or at least I think that's what they are called (ones that have solder inside) look industrial but in a good way, suite my taste I guess.
@M J Tiff Plumbing yeah true, there is that🤣 first time I ever mitred the worktop in my own kitchen I had a tiny missing triangle in the corner where I hadn't measured properly. Was tempted by the pot plant idea then, but the wife wasn't having any of it!
I''m a Heating Engineer , Plumber, Gas fitter, Welder, Boiler maker, 37 yrs I do all my own work in my own house, Cause I've been so busy my wife organised our En Suite to get re modelled they have done a shit job leaks shit silicone and plumbed the hot to the cold and the cold to the hot pipes, not a big deal to me as I'll change it but can you imagine the hassle to civillians. Experts eh.
@@MJTiffPlumbing Nope it's the last time I'll get anyone in ever again. I do all my own work in my house decorating new kitchen but my wife sorted this, Never again.
It’s all about building the relationship with your merchants etc…😉 As it was damaged from the factory it was replaced, however I lost the time money wise but that’s what you do for your customers sometimes
@@MJTiffPlumbing it a good job they replaced it after it had been fit. so i would have thought to removed the outer packaging first then inspection, if if all good then go ahead with the fitment. some suppliers may not offer replacement once its been fitted.
If it’s a manufacturing fault they should do…. It’s all about how you build a working relationship with your merchants… they will always look after you even if the company won’t… That’s why you never buy online😉
Feel you pain on this one mate, I take it that you swapped it out at your expense? I had a similar one recently! Customer had asked for the tap to be lined up with the central mullion of the window in the bathroom. Worktop sink and tap installed and customer okayed it ( very fussy so covered my a***). A few days later she calls and says it’s not central (installed with a lazer from the mullion to the centre of the tap!). Turned out she’d supplied me with the wrong sink ( she had 2, one of which didn’t meet her quality control!) but insisted the tap wasn’t central ( it was). It was also made worse as the tiler had worked his centre from wall to wall and not to the window (5mm discrepancy) I agreed (stupidly) to replace the sink and on removing it (carefully) it delaminated the worktop ( really pleased about that🤬). Customer put the onus to replace the top on me even though she’d given me the wrong sink! Luckily my supplier gifted me one but still out of pocket time wise and vowed never to return!
Yep swapped my my expense but it’s the long game isn’t it, looking after your customers with things like this makes a HUGE difference…… as I’m back soon doing the downstairs cloak room. Also I know exactly what your saying with what happened to you buddy
I know you're outdoors when cutting the worktop, but PLEASE wear a mask next time fella. Look at the video at 23.12 onwards and see all the dust particles catching the light!
A few people said that but I wanted it done properly, and with that dent it would always have a low point as they can’t build up the dent…. For the sake of a few hours it was sorted👍🏼👍🏼
bit like speedfit then...just a massive chew on with that hulking expensive tool, underfloorboards...and non demountable....its the reason the old grey hep fittings got changed.....one error like you made on that bathroom pipe up and ya choppin big lumps of copper out ....just seems a bit faddy....imho....@@MJTiffPlumbing
Hi Mark the last issue would you have considered giving the customer a discount or a part refund due to the damage? I was thinking with a mat and a plant on top it could be so easily hidden. A shame to have to undone it all just for that slight damage.
Anything over 2m feed pipes should be 22mm I think , salamander pumps r pure dort I've has some hassel with them over the years only fit stuart Turner now
The minimum flow rate required for our positive head pumps is 2 litres of water per minute (L/min). If you don't have this minimum flow rate from all outlets that are to be pumped, or if you're not sure, then you will need a universal (negative head) pump.
Could not believe what is in this video when I noticed it….. we’ve all been there (I hope)
Have I missed something lol watched it twice now 😂😂😂
Hey Mark. Its a buddy from across the pond. Don't be afraid to pre press some joints! For example you could've pressed your 2 90s together with the piece that went into the coupling. Then just put it into the coupling and moved it to the orientation you wanted then just press the coupling in place. Less moving parts. But like you said press takes a little pre thought especially in some tricky spots. You'll get it man! Keep killing it!
Thanks mate…. Appriciate the comment buddy
A lot of plumbers would have run a mile rather than come back. You R the MAN!!😊😊😊
Always got to sort things like this….. it’s what your reputation lives on👍🏼👍🏼
Great video. So nice to see a down to earth plumber who’s got pride in his job and other peoples jobs too. Well done deffo good with customers. Great bathroom by the way too 👍👍👏👏
Thanks mate, appreciate the comment
Top job Mark, you look after your customers that's a great quality these days well done mate
Thanks John…. Your customers are your livelihood….🙌🏼🙌🏼
Customer service is Number one in our book. Great to see in this day and age! Looking awesome, mate.
Certainly is buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Cracking video Mark. Your customers are lucky to have you.
Tbf most people aren't filming 🎥 so have two hands for press fit, same as you'd usually use 2 hands soldering.
Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼
Spot on what a loverly job, nice to see your little helper.
Thanks mate👍🏼👍🏼
I've been using the Rothenberger press tool for a few years now. I don't do the volume of plumbing you do and agree, they can twist a little on pressing. When you are stretching or in a floor void and can't always get your spare hand on the pipe/fitting to steady it. However, inside a unit/under a bath etc I think it's tidy. Much better than plastic in my option. I'd rather see press than compression even if in view.
Keep up the great work 👌
Yep I’m learning these little things as I go on…. Love learning new stuff👍🏼👍🏼
I have not used press fit yet but using the tool to make the joint does seem a bit of a struggle in enclosed spaces where a push fit would have been much easier. For joints which are not connected to wet pipes good old end feed is neatest and a compression joint to the wet pipe!!
Top bathroom job buddy.
Was thinking of trying pressfit but i cant see how it works aesthetically on show, great for underfloor work or in cupboards. Maybe one day when the insurances get ridiculously higher! Lol...
Thanks mate….. in a boiler room it’s fine on show but I agree sometimes on things like radiators it’s not too nice
Very interesting video Mark good intro to press fit. You are a customers dream plumber you really are I’m sure a lot of plumbers would not have bothered coming back to sort those issues out. With reg to the shower pump you had a separate hot from the cylinder already fitted for the existing shower so you used that isn’t that right and I take it the cold was independently tank fed. Is 15 mm pipe ok then for those pump supplies inc cold from tank. Cheers great video you’ve done it again excellent material.
Yep the feed in is fine to be honest, as per MI’s 👍🏼👍🏼
When i had my boiler changed i got the plumber to put me a megaflow hot water tank in, the showers are now perfect in our bathrooms now. well done mate you got this sorted in the end.
Yep a pressurised HW system will work perfectly with mixer showers if done correctly👍🏼
Always worth investing in a set of angle jaws for the crisp gun too
Yep 👍🏼👍🏼
Very nice, quality job & excellent customer care
Thanks buddy
Hi Mark, the bathroom looks great in the end, that pump really changed the performance of that shower, excellent.
I think the press fit was acceptable in that situation, it is out of sight and you could complete the job with water still in the pipe, so all good.
I would have had to change the unit top too, as my ocd would not let me leave the damaged on in situ.
I’m enjoying the press fit tutorials, another great film thank you, take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
Thanks Chris…. Yep the moment I spotted the problem it was going to be sorted. I actually knew about it before I filmed the last video with the bathroom…. Took me this long to get round to sorting it.
If i was the customer I would have just left that dent/imperfection, I think it was quite minor and a lot of effort to change that over but you did a really good job on it mark.
They wanted it 100% perfect, as would I to be honest….. you wouldn’t buy a brand new car with a dent in it….. (well I wouldn’t)
@@MJTiffPlumbing haha depends if you can afford a brand new car and I know I certainly can't 🤣
Well done Mark
Thanks mate
Another fine job Mark. Wish there were more plumbers like you around. I agree with the press fit argument they do look a bit chunky. Not as bad as compression but I would still prefer the soldered option.
Cheers buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
I agree…. Soldering is the best form of joining pipes imho
It’s that customer service that makes all the difference. It takes dedication to give up a Saturday morning to a job that’s already broken the record for ballache per square foot. Plenty would have left it: it’s only a small thing, but your customer would have seen it twice a day for the next ten years or so and felt a tiny little twinge of disappointment every time. Now it’ll be a daily reminder that they chose the right person to do the job.
Exactly buddy…… we take years to build a great name for our companies etc….. would never let something like this go👍🏼👍🏼
Persevere with the press fit mate. I think everyone has done what you have done. I know I have.
The bathroom looks really good. It's always nice to have understanding customers 👍
Yer these customers have been brilliant…. 👌🏼👌🏼
Enjoying learning the press fit side of things, certainly split the RUclips audience 🫣🫣
Fair play to you mate.
Sorted it out professionally .👍👍
As i knew you would.
Bathroom looks lovely.
Thankyou mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark I’ve had so many fails with those Salamamder pumps have stopped installing them. How have you found them?
I find them pretty good to be honest….
I usually cut those composite worktops with a jigsaw
Tried a jigsaw but it just wiped out the blade
Great video mark, you make it all look so easy fair play too you…
Thanks mate… kind words 👍🏼👍🏼
Good one got it sorted in the end liked the way the showed what can go wrong with press fit if you are not careful cheers
Thanks buddy…… yep as I said it’s a learning curve and I’m showing the whole journey
Nice to have that bathroom completed finally 😂😂
👍👍🤜
Yep now 100% happy with it….
Hi mate we fit composite worktops all the time in kitchens. We cut them with track saw and Jigsaw. We have had a lot lately with same sort ov imperfections. Believe it or not it is possible to sand out and re polish.. we are kitchen and bathroom fitters, been seriously thinking about getting press tool for onside cabinet's will be interesting to see how you get on. Keep up the top content 🤙🤙🤙
Yer I just wasn’t sure that the “dent” could of been sorted without the risk of having a low point.
Press fit has been something I’ve wanted to try for ages but the cost was so much…. In the end I just thought why not
You sort of feather it out and make it a huge dent that's not so noticeable 🤔🤔. Well this is the way the manufacturer shows us how to deal with it. Seems to work well TBF. I have just never liked soldering inside of cabinets. My concerns are more about the space needed to get the tool in, I think the cost is not an issue as I think it would save you so much time. Would like to see you do a kitchen second fix if possible mate to see how you get on. Cheers Dave
Thanks Dave…… as soon as I get the chance I will defo be doing one as I’m interested to see how it goes👍🏼👍🏼
There’s definitely a learning curve with press. I’ve found on my press gun if I’m trying to hold a pipe plumb with a level on it I can feather the trigger and not have it do the entire crimp in one punch but rather check the level mid way through the crimp cycle while the pipe is stiff but still has movement if it needs adjustment. Then finish the crimp. I’m not sure if all guns can stop mid way but I find that very useful. Also watch out that the jaw doesn’t interfere with another part of the fitting, one time I crushed the other side of a tee fitting where the gun forced itself into it and I had to cut out some work and start over. It definitely has its place but I can almost guarantee you will still be using your torch. By the way after 18 years of plumbing I’m two weeks into working for myself. Talk about a learning curve. My biggest challenge so far is scheduling myself and trying to get faster at paperwork!
100% I will be soldering still, can’t see press being the only way I work at all…
Well done on making the switch to running your own business…. You won’t look back buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark. Yes that bathroom was nightmare for you. Looks really good through. Shower much better with the pump and wasn’t a nightmare because you planned ahead for it. Top is one those things mate. You sorted it through. Nice one Mark. Have a good week 👍
Thanks buddy…. Yep just tied up the last few things and all is good👌🏼👌🏼
I would be interested in the longevity of pressfit. Copper is very soft any pipe hammer or movement in the pipe could result in distortion of the fitting.
It’s absolutely fine buddy, it’s been around for 25+ years now so is very tested
If the worktop is wood you might of tried a warm iron ? My other observation was it looked a big house was the cylinder big enough when you added a pump ??
Yer the supply is fine on this job👍🏼👍🏼
Iron…. Not heard of that before but I know what you mean
Pressure pump: are there no other versions available, such as in-line? So it will be straight in one end and straight out the other end, instead of this top in and top out?
Nice to hear a plumber saying Press Fit doesn't look great! I'm just a DIYer but do love plumbing. For years on YT and forums, plumbers have whinged and mocked solder ring for being a DIY job and looking horrendous yet they all seemed to love Press Fit and jump all over it 🤣 I get its application and pro points but I think its over used for general work and is just more expensive but that's probably why plumbers want to go that way.
Yep I don’t think it looks great to be honest….. can’t ever beat solder imho
Hello Mark really good to see the level of customer service you have provided here. Bit of a blow to see this type of fault in the first place, after doing everything right! I think every fitter would done the same thing and left the film on untill it was fitted. Only to find the little fault when you removed it.
All done now and sure the customer would have appreciated it.
Those press fit fittings worked well in this scenario. No risk of scorch marks or need to get water out of pipes before soldering. The only thing I would have done different would have been to use a couple of offsets instead of all those elbows. Appreciate you were trying to show everyone your new press though 😂
Thanks mate…. Yep the customers were so pleased to finally get it sorted and over the moon with the shower pressure now👌🏼
Lovely job in the end. Being a diy plumber for over 40 years I've loved the changes that have taken place, except for the price. Pressfit is great in some situations, but expensive and really just for the tradesman. Although I'm just a diyer, Ive seen some absolutely awful work by so called plumbers tbh, but also excellent jobs as well. You're obviously one of the good ones. Nice one mate.
Thanks buddy…. And I agree, there is some very port work out there from so called plumbers
Lovely job! ❤️👍
Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼
Great job and warranty brill stuff.
Thanks buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark I'm about to hang up my boots and I'm not having that press fit end of! What's wrong with push fit and if you want copper fittings use techtite. Also please go back to that job and take the valve off the expansion its giving me nightmares 😂😂
The lever is off the valve and it’s locked open with the bolt…… I will be back in a few months doing the cloakroom so will do it just for you..😉
Nice job mate , still not sold on press fit copper especially having to get tool calibrated every year.
Yep it’s something I’m trying to get to grips with and showing it all
As always mark love the vlogs and appreciate the knowledge sharing. I just wanted to ask a question as to why the shower requires a shower pump? Im thinking about my own house or my mums and none of them have a shower pump.
Not great pressure as it was a gravity fed system…. Pumping it gives a great power shower that they wanted
Great video, I don't know if its just me or if its just that maybe your not to used to press yet but it just seems like a bit of a faff. I actually enjoy soldering find it quite relaxing in a way. Its interesting to see how you find it I'm only an apprentice and have never tried it but it is still good to see what its like to use for the future.
I think it’s totally that I’m not used to it yet…. I’ve done it/used it twice!!!!…. It’s like learning a new skill as it’s not just pressing a button as I’m trying to show… so in a way it’s coming across exactly how it is👍🏼👍🏼
I agree, I enjoy soldering more than press
@@MJTiffPlumbing yea I always thought that it would be really easy and all that but I think from watching your videos you have to think about it and be more strategic than soldering. Its great that you can use it even with water in the pipes.
Should've used them random 45's in your fitting box to make an offset of sorts. 😂 Good education on press.
I'd be interested to know longer term if you stick with it how it affects your pricing. Jobbing jobs the time saved might equal another job done so it'd pay for itself, but bigger jobs on day rate with lots of fittings might be a different story I guess.
I can see the advantage definitely for pipes with water in them, and for mlcp you've got no choice, but for newbies starting out its a luxury to aim for.
Will all be covered in the upcoming videos buddy😉👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark. Continuing to enjoy your videos. Just a comment about the choice of shower pump: Personally, I would have opted for a universal pump. Reason being is that the choice of pump isn't necessarily the location of the pump in relation to the tank in the loft, but the distance between the base of the tank in the loft and the shower outlet. It might well be that the head pressure from the rain shower is so poor it might not be sufficient to operate the flow switch in the pump. Many people with positive head showers with this sort of set up find they have to start the shower by firstly diverting to the hand held sprayer, removing it from the holder then directing it downwards. Also, is that an isolation valve I can see on the hot water draw-off before the vent?
Shower pump is fine on this set up and works perfectly 👍🏼👍🏼
Glad to hear that, Mark. It's just something I've come across a few times. It's usually not an issue to begin with while the flow switch is nice and new, but the issues start when the flow switch ages a bit.
Great content mark.
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice work as ever. I’m not a fan of fitting those worktops as the ‘it can go wrong factor’ is high. I’ve cut them with a decent circular saw blade. Goes through them like butter. I was surprised but got advice from a granite worktop bloke
Might have to try that next time 👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing A blade with a high tooth count 👍
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Looks better than push fit
Exactly…….. I would never fit pushfit where it’s on show
Great video mark
I think that is one of my biggest lessons you have to be prepared to go back to a job if something goes wrong like that and in most cases you wont get paid a second time, which is only fair.
100% mate…. Always look after your good customers
Remember Tiff, you just press the button once and let the pressfit do the rest.
Tried that…. Didn’t work🤷🏼♂️
That happens sometimes to me too
I get customer to buy everything that can be seen in a finished install. That way if there is a problem it's not my fault and to correct is at additional cost.
That is one way to go about things if your happy doing it that way👍🏼
I suppose you guys will be used to servicing that sort of toilet cistern without removing the worktop too.
Can all be serviced from the front…. The panels are removable 👍🏼
you could have done two offsets on outlets mate.
Yep, could of done however wanted to show the press in action 👍🏼👍🏼
Fine grade sandpaper would never remove a dent as it does not offer enough of a cut, it might hide it but with the light at the right angle you'll still be able to see it and always been able to feel it's still there. You would need to start with a low grit sandpaper to flatted the surface out and then work up to remove the scratch marks by which point you would have broken threw the finish layer.
looking threw the comments I agree with yourself and most others on how bad press fit looks, I don't even think they really look industrial they are just plain right to big and meh. I would much rather see solider fittings. I think the Yorkshire fittings or at least I think that's what they are called (ones that have solder inside) look industrial but in a good way, suite my taste I guess.
Yep and my worry would be your basically making a bowl in the worktop so if anything weee to be spilt it would show by just pooling in that area
I would've bought the customer an indoor plant for that dent in the worktop😂
And never worked for them again 🤣🤣
@M J Tiff Plumbing yeah true, there is that🤣 first time I ever mitred the worktop in my own kitchen I had a tiny missing triangle in the corner where I hadn't measured properly. Was tempted by the pot plant idea then, but the wife wasn't having any of it!
Hi Mark great when it all comes together you will probably get more work by doing this bad news spreads quicker than good unfortunately
Indeed buddy….. all ready had a call from one of there neighbours
Well done, a great finish to a trying job!!!! 👍
Thanks buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Sometimes a iron with a damp cloth can return things to normal.
Really!!!!!
I''m a Heating Engineer , Plumber, Gas fitter, Welder, Boiler maker, 37 yrs I do all my own work in my own house, Cause I've been so busy my wife organised our En Suite to get re modelled they have done a shit job leaks shit silicone and plumbed the hot to the cold and the cold to the hot pipes, not a big deal to me as I'll change it but can you imagine the hassle to civillians. Experts eh.
A plumber that gets other plumbers in to do the work….. that’s a new one….
I hope you got them back to sort it..
@@MJTiffPlumbing Didn't you see the bit I said I'm busy.
@@MJTiffPlumbing Nope it's the last time I'll get anyone in ever again. I do all my own work in my house decorating new kitchen but my wife sorted this, Never again.
Stuart turner pumps are quieter 😊
This is not that loud at all….. in the cupboard with the clothes deadening the sound it’s hardly even noticeable…👍🏼
Question I got, did you pay for this new work top or the supplier replaced it. That was crossing my mind through the vid. Great video by the way 😊😊
It’s all about building the relationship with your merchants etc…😉
As it was damaged from the factory it was replaced, however I lost the time money wise but that’s what you do for your customers sometimes
@@MJTiffPlumbing it a good job they replaced it after it had been fit. so i would have thought to removed the outer packaging first then inspection, if if all good then go ahead with the fitment. some suppliers may not offer replacement once its been fitted.
If it’s a manufacturing fault they should do…. It’s all about how you build a working relationship with your merchants… they will always look after you even if the company won’t…
That’s why you never buy online😉
Feel you pain on this one mate, I take it that you swapped it out at your expense? I had a similar one recently! Customer had asked for the tap to be lined up with the central mullion of the window in the bathroom. Worktop sink and tap installed and customer okayed it ( very fussy so covered my a***). A few days later she calls and says it’s not central (installed with a lazer from the mullion to the centre of the tap!). Turned out she’d supplied me with the wrong sink ( she had 2, one of which didn’t meet her quality control!) but insisted the tap wasn’t central ( it was). It was also made worse as the tiler had worked his centre from wall to wall and not to the window (5mm discrepancy) I agreed (stupidly) to replace the sink and on removing it (carefully) it delaminated the worktop ( really pleased about that🤬). Customer put the onus to replace the top on me even though she’d given me the wrong sink! Luckily my supplier gifted me one but still out of pocket time wise and vowed never to return!
Yep swapped my my expense but it’s the long game isn’t it, looking after your customers with things like this makes a HUGE difference…… as I’m back soon doing the downstairs cloak room.
Also I know exactly what your saying with what happened to you buddy
Won’t be no long game with this particular customer but I know what you’re saying mate! 👍🏻
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Looks like it going in some sort of cupboard space so who gives a shit what it looks like easier and less mess than soldering 👍👍
Yep it’s in the wardrobe 👍🏼👍🏼
Hey Mr tiff loving the channel watch every episode dude....keep up the great content
Thanks mate, appreciate that
I was thinking to myself and praying for you that you didn't use ct1 to stick top down
I said that exact thing as we was taking it out🤣🤣
Salamander….. the bristan of shower pumps. 😬😂
Hahaha…. They can’t be THAT bad🤣🤣
Not had any issues with Salamander pumps tbh
RE: the safety goggles, 'should have' not 'should of' 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
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Should have soldered them or used hep fittings, very expensive way of doing it.
We all do stuff different buddy….. that’s why I’m showing it all👍🏼👍🏼…. No right or wrong
nice!
Thanks!
I know you're outdoors when cutting the worktop, but PLEASE wear a mask next time fella. Look at the video at 23.12 onwards and see all the dust particles catching the light!
👍🏼👍🏼 thanks mate…. Will do
Sorry don't like the look of the finish with the press fit fittings on the pump , other than that a great job looks fab
Thanks buddy
Can you make watersofner video
I will when I fit one buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Salamander pumps , its a no from me !
It was a yes from the customer and that’s what matters👍🏼👍🏼
I got nervous watching you cut new work top
Yep… I know what you mean
Not a great lover of pressfit. Probably because i'm nearly 60 and classed as old school
Hahaha distinguished mate😉😉
Always a pain in the arse having to sort something out that was out of your control! May have been cheaper to get a magicman out to repair the worktop
A few people said that but I wanted it done properly, and with that dent it would always have a low point as they can’t build up the dent…. For the sake of a few hours it was sorted👍🏼👍🏼
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Yes mate🙏🏼🙏🏼
Never thought of using grinder on that stuff I’ve always used the jigsaw with a fine toothed blade. It’s queer stuff to cut that’s for sure.
It certainly is mate…. I struggled the first time round with the jigsaw so switched to the disc
That press fit is awful looking stuff. Personal id complain I wouldn't have that in my house
I agree it’s not the most aesthetically pleasing fittings on the market…
Just out of curiosity mate what do you do for a living
@@shaunconnor7525 I'd plumbing and tiling mate for about 20 years
Not sure I understand the need for the double intro??
I do…. And so does the algorithms on RUclips, that’s why I did it buddy….👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing ok , I just don’t see many other people doing it lol one yeh but two 🤯
Rule to RUclips….. don’t be like everyone else…. Would be a very boring place
I’m gonna start a channel
And do 3 intros 😂
that pressfit is a chew on!,,,,,,sorry like...fad 100%
It’s been a fad for nearly 20years mate 😉
bit like speedfit then...just a massive chew on with that hulking expensive tool, underfloorboards...and non demountable....its the reason the old grey hep fittings got changed.....one error like you made on that bathroom pipe up and ya choppin big lumps of copper out ....just seems a bit faddy....imho....@@MJTiffPlumbing
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Hi Mark the last issue would you have considered giving the customer a discount or a part refund due to the damage? I was thinking with a mat and a plant on top it could be so easily hidden. A shame to have to undone it all just for that slight damage.
Not a chance….. they pay there money and I want it done right…. Every time….👍🏼👌🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing yeah fair enough Mark. You obviously take great pride in your work. Top man 🌝🌝
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Anything over 2m feed pipes should be 22mm I think , salamander pumps r pure dort I've has some hassel with them over the years only fit stuart Turner now
Never had issues with Salamander to be honest… 👍🏼
Matters about flow from highest point not if theres a tank in roofspace in considering which pump to use always best using universal imo
Best to use what is designed for the job, universal is not quite the best at either imho…
@@MJTiffPlumbing u obv didn't check flow rate on rain head that pump will last a year max
The minimum flow rate required for our positive head pumps is 2 litres of water per minute (L/min). If you don't have this minimum flow rate from all outlets that are to be pumped, or if you're not sure, then you will need a universal (negative head) pump.
1st thing u check when doing a shower pump buddy