Timestamps Mod #1: 1:42 Mod #2: 3:04 Mod #3: 4:50 Mod #4: 5:56 Mod #5: 7:24 Comparison to stock rig: 9:13 Bonus mods: 10:28 Course runs: 12:06 Final thoughts: 17:50
Hey Adam, I want to say thank you for all your videos. I got a bronco in April, ran it for about 2 minutes and shelved it as a decoration. Ran across your videos by accident and was blown away. I started building and am loving this little rig. Never thought I'd be running no shock springs. Amazon is now coming more for me than my girlfriend lol. Keep up the great work man!
@@CapeCrawlers I've learned so much from your videos. Awesome to have access to your knowledge. Also great you get all the cool parts and I can pick what seems best lol.
It was kinda like the UTB18. Everyone was confused and put off by the initial thought of it. But as soon as you get some time with one, the opinion changes pretty quick.
The main reason I saw was bc of the lack of upgraded parts it’s the same “stock” parts that crap out under very limited stress quickly(ie same servo, transmission, etc). Also the lack of mobility with the electronic layout and the lack of LCG. I don’t personally have one and I personally wouldn’t mind owning one the way it sits But allot of the Axial followers I think were expecting a bit more and they were let down. Im currently building a spare parts 4ws truck right now and I’m only in it $24. IMO I would love to try one before I say anything but everyone’s opinion will be different upon preference
I’ve got 4 modded scx’s and a new ax24 for ma bday. Did wide hexes. Still needs diff covers and knuckles plus beadlocks. Great rig. Turns on a dime. Keeps up w modded trucks. Kinda bought not built type rig rn. It’s amazing.
Just watched this one... If my math is correct, there is over $450 invested in the final product! I see there is a budget build video, its next on the agenda...
The mods made a big difference. I picked one up yesterday from my local. I haven't driven it yet, this will be my first 4ws rig. I did pull a few parts out of my bin to put on after the first run. I think the brass skid plate really help eliminate the bounce from the shocks, nice!!!🤘🤘🤘 For myself, the servos are the last thing I swap out. I run them till they break. On 7 of my 12 24's they still have the stockers. Yea there are stronger ones but the stock one work.
I just discovered on my ax 24 last night that if you tighten the servo arm mount, the servo saver gets less forgiving and the steering becomes MUCH better. Since this is my 893920th crawler I wanted to see how much I could drive it in some local comps without modding it too much
Awesome I was at Nankin hobby today, they have a little indoor course for the 1/24 scales had a blast, they didn’t have one of these rigs they was all sold out. But I did get a pro Lane cliffhanger body,
Love your videos, before I seen this I've ordered the emaxx servos with green mounts and horns, brass skid plate, green alloy shocks, green nexx racing steering racks, injora green beadlocks, brass wheel extensions with solid brass weights built in, brass diff covers and a .50 high torque motor, I ordered all this then ordered the green ax24, cars come, just waiting on parts now to mod it, love the car already, Just ordered the carbon side plates too. 😊 I also have 2 x scx10 ll and 1 capra, all fully modded with axe systems and lots of brass
I definitely think you should do a budget build. Really getting into this hobby based on your video. I have the Gladiator, my son has the bronco and wife is getting it to it also and the c10. So starting out I like to see what can be done on a budget. Thanks for the great content
Trying to get these out to the community as quickly as we can. It is a bummer at times though because I jump from one project to the next so frequently I don't get to spend a lot of time with each.
My son and I would love to see the budget build with the green one. He kept asking while we watched if you were going to do anything with the green one since green is his favorite color. Great video and content as always! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video! Just got mine today and love the little guy. I have bead locks laying around, tires and one Emax servo, just ordered the 50t motor and brass axel covers. Can't wait to compare it to my C10 and FMS.
thanks for breaking ground with some of these mods on this new platform. Your video alleviated my concerns about installing a bigger motor. I am just starting the mod journey for the AX myself, but am having trouble finding servo mounts. It looks like the AX servo mount spreads the upper links a little further apart than that on the SCX. Using an older SCX mount seems like it would mount the links a little closer together, effectively shortening the distance from chassis to axle for the upper links and adding a slight amount of caster. It doubt it would cause any driveshaft binding, but you might want to look at that if you think binding might be reducing the throttle "smoothness"
Omg you’re a genius. I’ve still been chasing that binding issue and I wonder if that’s exactly what the root cause is. The aftermarket servo tray does pinch the links closer together by ~2mm I bet. The binding only happens when I turn the wheel, and to one side primarily. But perhaps that could still be the issue?
One thing I'd love to see included when you do mod's (and maybe you have by now. I'm binging to get caught up!) is a weight comparison between what you take off and what you're replacing it with. Actual scale weights. Hopefully you'll score a good scale (or have gotten one by now.... :D ).
I took the stock ax24 tires mounted them on some brass wheels and put them on my scx bronco and it climbs up everything better. Gunna put some flubber stuffers in next see if those make them even better now.
Out of the box the ax is so much more capable than an scx or fcx but when you fully upgrade an scx or fcx or ax they end up the same. Tiny comp chassis' already exist. We been running independent 4ws forever. Long travel shocks have been out for ages. Also remember the "new" ax stills runs a complete scx drive train. Unfortunately it also still runs those horrible electronics. If your new to the 24 game go for it grab an ax. But for me and many others its nothing new and current comp rigs will destroy it. This is why many say "we wanted more" and if not more give us something different. 7.5/10👍🤠👍
Can't argue with your logic. I'm finding this with the TRX4M. The more you modify it, the more it becomes more of the same. That's not a bad thing, as the process is always fun, but all roads seem to lead to the same destination with these.
Great build! This is first on my wish list for my first mini crawler. Is there another 50 motor option you would recommend? Maybe one with a little less “whine” in it.
Yes, I like the Mofo RC torque beast and the LGRP reaper or predator motors. I actually put a Mofo motor in this initially but broke my wires during install.
Great build it really performed well on the course. I would like to see a budget build on the other because I believe mine will fall somewhere in between. Thanks for another great video.
Budget build would be really cool and then they can face off with each other just throw some cheap injora parts at it and maybe do a sub 150 dollar build. Those negative offset wheels and 64 mm tires would look really gnarly on this thing and cheaper than the little guy racing parts
Been following your SXC24 builds and was going to do an Injora Rock Buggy build and had no idea Axial had an AX24.....now I have to decide which is the better option LOL I like the Rock Buggy look but all wheel steering is hard not to try.
WOW that thing is a beast & I'm looking to buy one soon & will mod it soon I'm sure even I just plan to run it in my yard over the sticks & twigs in my back yard...shout out I'm a big fan of your videos ❤
I've been looking at these for a week or so, watching videos. Realizing that they are only rc cars but axial needs to rethink the geometry of the links. It has a problem with push off and it lifts the left front on climbs as well as the anti squat are all off. If they got a 4link calculator it would only help how it performs...
This is like my dream build. I have been trying so hard to get one of these and it is not easy in my country. I love each and every single build you do and I don't know if this is the best place to ask this but I'm just going to go for it because you probably get too many DMs anyway. Would you sell this? I'd love to get this from you! You took the best crawler out there and fixed every problem it had including the servo and those tires and the weight!
Good stuff...just nit picking...."dont wanna add rotational mass from wheel weights"...adds hesvier tires and rims...i have a motor enroute with more torque....Is it the esc that produces that loud whine alone?...or a combo of the motor and esc?
Great video, I'm 100% on board with you with not adding any rotational Mass, I go out of my way to avoid it with these rigs especially if you want to keep a stock motor in it. Seems like even a little bit of weight in the wheels drags the motor down pretty good
Brand new to this hobby, I picked up this thing yesterday and have been watching tons of videos on upgrades. Is there a better shock option for these? And thank you for all the great info that you pass along to us.
@@CapeCrawlers ok thanks , just wondering . I know this little crawler is new . I’m sure there will be something eventually . Thank you and I appreciate all the info and great videos.
Great video as always sir!!! Have you ever seen people that use B.B.s to create faux mud pits? I think that would be a really entertaining addition in your "HOT TUB" feature on your course.
Starting to have 2nd thoughts on the shocks, when I get this. I read that this thing has 51mm shocks....what's 3 more mm just to get another set of those 54mm shocks? Which I'm starting to think about getting for this rig. Lol I just hope that both Treal & Injora come out with links & drive shafts for this specific rig, all in all, & definitely need weights for all 4 corners of this rig, as well.
Love your videos. Learned a lot about 1/24 scale mods from you. Just picked up the AX24 and started the upgrades. Curious to know what high clearance links might work for the AX24.
Very informative video as always. Thank you. I’ll definitely be picking up these or very similar upgrades. In this video are you running stock shocks/springs? I couldn’t tell. If so, try the internal spring mod that 2FMRC has done. It pulls the front end down to the chassis. Also, thoughts on going the route of portals? Let me know. Thanks!
GREAT VIDEO!!!!! In it you say when upgrading the steering servo to get the tray set up for 4 link conversion, is that the tray we get if we order from the link you provided?
I did not. I used a 4-link compatible scx24 tray and threaded the AX upper links to the outside of it. Worked great. Slightly more narrow than stock but doesn’t seem to hurt it
Hey Adam, I finally have some money saved up, and i want to know if it is better to upgrade wheels and tires, or shocks / flex blades first? ( on an SCX24)
Adam you are the man. I wanted to pick your brain on my next crawler. I’m looking to make my ultimate almost comp build I guess. Furitek cayman 4x4 or a nice modded AX24? Any input would be great.
I will give you my subjective opinion and that is that building a rig from a stock SCX24 is my preferred approach. Only because I (personally) love the process of incrementally upgrading a vehicle. I find it so gratifying and rewarding to see the progress as you modify. The Cayman, although it is a performance bargain, kinda takes the fun out of the build in my opinion.
There's no easy way to do it unfortunately. Ive heard of folks using adjustable links, or messing with the horn position and linkage mount on the horn itself. Also plugging the rear servo into the CH1, trimming it, then switching channels again. For me, none of that worked. I ended up swapping out electronics and using a Flysky tx/rx combo which allowed me to trim the rear servo independently. If that isnt an option for you, the adjustable steering links seem to be the most popular method.
Do you mean the stock metal frame rails? I've put two different 050 sized motors in this now and both seem to be working perfectly but I did this sequentially, with the motor coming after the frame rails.
Can you make a video for the mini Orlandoo hunter kits and if you do can you please put a link in the description for all the electronics. This is just a video recommendation thank you
This video pushed me to do all the upgrades you showcased and I love it! Thanks! One question though, how do I avoid so much body twist/rocking when steering in 4WS? When steering hard right, the right rear tire rubs and catches on the body badly. Same for the left front when I steer hard left.
Thanks for watching! The torque twist is a tough nut to crack in this chassis. Generally stiffer springs in the shocks will mitigate twist, but on this rig it will also raise your chassis, which we don't want. You almost have to pick the lesser of two evils.
@@CapeCrawlers Much appreciated! I may have to try stiffer springs because in a hard right it catches so bad on the chassis to the point of almost stopping the motor.
Hi Did i get that right? You don't use non vented beadlock tyres without inserts because they don't handle that good when it comes to sidways performance? You should make a Video an Lipos, how to charge, how to store them and what kind of charger you use.
I feel like you can use a tall tire with no insert so long as the tire/wheel is not vented. The air pressure inside the tire gives it some strength. But I am not a fan of running big tires with no inserts on a vented set up because that's when you get the super wobbly sidewalls.
Awesome video man, it is now behaving exactly like I expected it would. I think as you stated there are much more budget friendly options to achieve the same end result. I question the need for that carbon fiber chassis but it sure does look cool =). I also wonder if the 66t Injora would have smoothed the throttle response out a bit, seems a little jumpy. It might just be the limitation of that ESC because it feels jumpy out of the box as well. The 66t while not quite as torquey, is smoother. Great build I am waiting on my parts to come in to start my build as well. Did you use the standard servo trays that come with the Injora kit, even thought they do not have the slots for the links? great content bud!
Thanks! I did use the standard servo tray and the links threaded in perfectly on the outside of the tray, just like the four link conversion on the SCX24. I think you're right about the 66t. I may swap this out for my LGRP Reaper motor as that is super smooth. I also feel like something is binding and contributing to the jumpiness, but I can't pinpoint it. Let the tinkering begin!
Love the insights and sharing! I'm thinking of getting the injuro motor. just one question though, does changing the motor from stock to the injuro help with the modulation? From what I can observe from your video, it does? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for watching! It does help with the modulation. Primarily because the motor just has more power and is spread out better. Check out Mofo RC's channel where he put the little torque beast in the AX24. The smoothness is crazy!
I really like the ax24 and I’ve basically built something Similar to it using a INJORA 50 pro with four wheel steer conversion on my scx24. Oh yeah and buy the way I recommend trying the ogrc comp pins they got dual stage foams and there tread design is pretty good I would love to see how they do on your course
Thank you for always sharing your thoughts and builds. It's so helpful. I have a question about the 18g Treal steering knuckles. I installed a set on my Axial SCX24 Bronco and set them loose as you suggested (I think in another video), but I get a lot of slop in the steering. Are they actually supposed to be tightened and then there is just friction between the screw sleeve and steering knuckle? I hope that makes sense...
Thanks for watching! Have you upgraded your steering linkage? Just wondering what exactly is causing the slop. I usually tighten the knuckles then back them out until they are nice and smooth with no friction.
@@CapeCrawlers I ended up upgrading the entire thing due to a broken bolt into the plastic steering linkage. So I have an upgraded servo, with an aluminum horn, brass steering linkage and then the brass knuckles. When I back up the screws a little bit on the knuckles, it also gives them an up/down and side/side wiggle off of the axel housing. I believe that's the source of the slop as everything else feels tight.
@@CapeCrawlers just some hot racing snap in weights. The guys at the hobby shop said they work better with beadlock rims but they definitely don’t 😆. First little bump and they fall out of the rim and just dangle 🤣😭
Thank you! I ended up removing the servo trays and going back to stock. But the aluminum four link tray worked well. I was chasing a binding issue which turned out to be the ESC and that's why I swapped the trays. Anyway, you thread a screw through the linkage into the outside of the servo tray, so one link on each outer part of the traditional linkage mount if that makes sense. I don't have a video specifically on it but I can make a short if the above isnt clear.
@@CapeCrawlersthanks for the detailed and prompt response! I totally get what you meant!! Just to clarify, does that mean the stock servo trays can accommodate the emax servos? Thank you again! :)))
Hi Adam, run a comparison with the ax24 and your already built 4 wheel steer conversion that you did. I believe it was a deadbolt?? Both the modded versions. Just to see if the chassis is the advantage or if it's actually the 4 wheel steer??
I dig your videos they have helped me a lot I recently did the emax servos front and back and can't figure out how to adjust the back servo so I'm not driving at an angle
I did some research and so far as I can tell, the trim adjustment only works on the front wheels. I am going to do some testing tonight to see if I can figure out a workaround.
@@duramaxdad I ended up fiddling with it getting it kind of close but not enough and I got one of the old style injora steering linkage setups with the plastic ends and just adjusted by screwing them out
A couple of ideas: I made a log bridge with some rope and tree branches. It's a lot of fun and looks great on the course; very organic. Also, my local hobby shop made a bridge out of two parallel pieces of rope. It's SUPER challenging and really easy to set up!
Why do you avoid rotational mass on a slow speed crawler? I'm curious what your reasoning is. I was taught that it affects performance as weight and speed increase. At low speeds and weight, there is a limited effect. For example, my friend has been running 2 scx10.3 for over 2yrs now, one stock and the other is brassed out with brass rims. Drives the modded one way more, hasn't blown any bearings or anything they have been told would happen..
I think it's that traditional mentality for the exact reasons you mentioned but may not necessarily make a noticeable difference on longevity for these little things. But in general the thought of the additional energy need to begin, maintain, and slow down the rotational weight is a consideration, but again, how much are we really talking here.
Well I broke down n sold one of my trx4m so I could put that $ towards an Axial ax24. What should the first upgrade be? Gotta go slower with this, make it more satisfying, lol.
I think the brass knuckles and diff covers would be first, or the brass skid and carbon fiber frame rails. Either one will help a lot for stability which is what it really needs
Timestamps
Mod #1: 1:42
Mod #2: 3:04
Mod #3: 4:50
Mod #4: 5:56
Mod #5: 7:24
Comparison to stock rig: 9:13
Bonus mods: 10:28
Course runs: 12:06
Final thoughts: 17:50
Hey Adam, I want to say thank you for all your videos. I got a bronco in April, ran it for about 2 minutes and shelved it as a decoration. Ran across your videos by accident and was blown away. I started building and am loving this little rig. Never thought I'd be running no shock springs. Amazon is now coming more for me than my girlfriend lol. Keep up the great work man!
Thank you for watching! I love that story. These things are so fun once you get modifying. Have fun with your Bronco!
The Amazon joke was nice
@@CapeCrawlers I've learned so much from your videos. Awesome to have access to your knowledge. Also great you get all the cool parts and I can pick what seems best lol.
I don't know why everyone hated these I liked them to start with but I'm hoping to buy one eventually and mainly upgrade the tires and servos
It was kinda like the UTB18. Everyone was confused and put off by the initial thought of it. But as soon as you get some time with one, the opinion changes pretty quick.
The main reason I saw was bc of the lack of upgraded parts it’s the same “stock” parts that crap out under very limited stress quickly(ie same servo, transmission, etc). Also the lack of mobility with the electronic layout and the lack of LCG. I don’t personally have one and I personally wouldn’t mind owning one the way it sits But allot of the Axial followers I think were expecting a bit more and they were let down. Im currently building a spare parts 4ws truck right now and I’m only in it $24. IMO I would love to try one before I say anything but everyone’s opinion will be different upon preference
I’ve got 4 modded scx’s and a new ax24 for ma bday. Did wide hexes. Still needs diff covers and knuckles plus beadlocks. Great rig. Turns on a dime. Keeps up w modded trucks. Kinda bought not built type rig rn. It’s amazing.
I think a budget build would be a good idea, you certainly cracked the problems with the upgrades you’ve made
Now that I know what works, it will be easy to replicate on a budget. I'm on it!
Just watched this one... If my math is correct, there is over $450 invested in the final product! I see there is a budget build video, its next on the agenda...
The mods made a big difference. I picked one up yesterday from my local. I haven't driven it yet, this will be my first 4ws rig. I did pull a few parts out of my bin to put on after the first run. I think the brass skid plate really help eliminate the bounce from the shocks, nice!!!🤘🤘🤘 For myself, the servos are the last thing I swap out. I run them till they break. On 7 of my 12 24's they still have the stockers. Yea there are stronger ones but the stock one work.
I’m amazed at the longevity you get out of your servos!
I just discovered on my ax 24 last night that if you tighten the servo arm mount, the servo saver gets less forgiving and the steering becomes MUCH better. Since this is my 893920th crawler I wanted to see how much I could drive it in some local comps without modding it too much
Good tip on the servo! I'll have to try that.
Thank you this helped a lot on my ax24
@@CapeCrawlers it helps a lot, tried it and the steering started to shift the whole truck
Awesome I was at Nankin hobby today, they have a little indoor course for the 1/24 scales had a blast, they didn’t have one of these rigs they was all sold out. But I did get a pro Lane cliffhanger body,
Love your videos, before I seen this I've ordered the emaxx servos with green mounts and horns, brass skid plate, green alloy shocks, green nexx racing steering racks, injora green beadlocks, brass wheel extensions with solid brass weights built in, brass diff covers and a .50 high torque motor, I ordered all this then ordered the green ax24, cars come, just waiting on parts now to mod it, love the car already,
Just ordered the carbon side plates too. 😊
I also have 2 x scx10 ll and 1 capra, all fully modded with axe systems and lots of brass
I definitely think you should do a budget build. Really getting into this hobby based on your video. I have the Gladiator, my son has the bronco and wife is getting it to it also and the c10. So starting out I like to see what can be done on a budget. Thanks for the great content
I love that your entire family is into it! That is so awesome. I will work on the budget build!
I’m working out how to do a budget build with this one with best performance and right now it’s adding up to 240
It just be a motor 2 sirvos a tiny bit of brass and shocks upgrade everything else like even tires are surprisingly good
You guys are so fast and want new stuff all the time. I haven't even completely built and driven my SCX24s enough.
Trying to get these out to the community as quickly as we can. It is a bummer at times though because I jump from one project to the next so frequently I don't get to spend a lot of time with each.
Sweet little crawler can’t wait to get one and I would love to see a budget build
My son and I would love to see the budget build with the green one. He kept asking while we watched if you were going to do anything with the green one since green is his favorite color. Great video and content as always! 👍🏻👍🏻
Now I have to do it! Tell your son I'm on it. Axel's favorite color is green too, that's why hes got that one!
That’s crazy just a few mods transformed it into even more of a beast
Certainly didnt take much to wake it up
Now this is the AX24 I want. Fixed all the issues I had with the stock.
Quite a transformation!
@@CapeCrawlers yup now to save up so I can get the AX and all the upgrades at once. Keep up the great work and awesome videos!! Nice👍🏾👍🏾
Great video! Just got mine today and love the little guy. I have bead locks laying around, tires and one Emax servo, just ordered the 50t motor and brass axel covers. Can't wait to compare it to my C10 and FMS.
Thanks for watching! Have fun!
Back watching again, I just picked up my orange and silver AX 24 found one at my local hobby shop but had to drive a little bit over a hour
Glad you found one! I'm anxious to hear what you think of it.
thanks for breaking ground with some of these mods on this new platform. Your video alleviated my concerns about installing a bigger motor. I am just starting the mod journey for the AX myself, but am having trouble finding servo mounts. It looks like the AX servo mount spreads the upper links a little further apart than that on the SCX. Using an older SCX mount seems like it would mount the links a little closer together, effectively shortening the distance from chassis to axle for the upper links and adding a slight amount of caster. It doubt it would cause any driveshaft binding, but you might want to look at that if you think binding might be reducing the throttle "smoothness"
Omg you’re a genius. I’ve still been chasing that binding issue and I wonder if that’s exactly what the root cause is. The aftermarket servo tray does pinch the links closer together by ~2mm I bet. The binding only happens when I turn the wheel, and to one side primarily. But perhaps that could still be the issue?
Super cool looking with those wheels and Swamp King tires! I love mine so far and was looking for some great upgrades so Thanks for the video.
Yes! Budget build with comparison would be cool!
Thats THE BEST indoor course I've ever seen!
Thanks! It's a lot of fun and has been such a blessing during the cold winters!
One thing I'd love to see included when you do mod's (and maybe you have by now. I'm binging to get caught up!) is a weight comparison between what you take off and what you're replacing it with. Actual scale weights. Hopefully you'll score a good scale (or have gotten one by now.... :D ).
I took the stock ax24 tires mounted them on some brass wheels and put them on my scx bronco and it climbs up everything better. Gunna put some flubber stuffers in next see if those make them even better now.
I like the stock tires! Glad to hear you're getting good use out of them.
Out of the box the ax is so much more capable than an scx or fcx but when you fully upgrade an scx or fcx or ax they end up the same. Tiny comp chassis' already exist. We been running independent 4ws forever. Long travel shocks have been out for ages. Also remember the "new" ax stills runs a complete scx drive train. Unfortunately it also still runs those horrible electronics. If your new to the 24 game go for it grab an ax. But for me and many others its nothing new and current comp rigs will destroy it. This is why many say "we wanted more" and if not more give us something different. 7.5/10👍🤠👍
Can't argue with your logic. I'm finding this with the TRX4M. The more you modify it, the more it becomes more of the same. That's not a bad thing, as the process is always fun, but all roads seem to lead to the same destination with these.
Or you can just get it and add another fun different truck to the collection... I don't have a spending problem I promise !!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Yes please, to the budget build on your sons rig! Great couple of videos on the AX24.
Got the parts today 👍🏻
Great build! This is first on my wish list for my first mini crawler. Is there another 50 motor option you would recommend? Maybe one with a little less “whine” in it.
Yes, I like the Mofo RC torque beast and the LGRP reaper or predator motors. I actually put a Mofo motor in this initially but broke my wires during install.
Great build it really performed well on the course. I would like to see a budget build on the other because I believe mine will fall somewhere in between. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks! I will do the budget build soon.
If my Mt24 build wasn't so top heavy I'd love to see it on that mountain you have. I'm sure it would tip. It has all metal in it but still tips.
It would be a tough climb for a monster truck build for sure
Budget build would be really cool and then they can face off with each other just throw some cheap injora parts at it and maybe do a sub 150 dollar build. Those negative offset wheels and 64 mm tires would look really gnarly on this thing and cheaper than the little guy racing parts
It would be like Ford vs Ferrari, AX24 edition!
Very impressive. HUGE difference. Great content
Big improvements, and thank you!
@@CapeCrawlers I kinda wanna get one.. but I'm more into scale crawling rigs, Not much into comp crawler rigs.
Very very sweet rig now. wish axial would help with upgrades before sending these out
Agreed!
Been following your SXC24 builds and was going to do an Injora Rock Buggy build and had no idea Axial had an AX24.....now I have to decide which is the better option LOL I like the Rock Buggy look but all wheel steering is hard not to try.
Awesome tutorial, I have one the way! Could you please tell us the noise it makes? Thank you
I used to frequent centerline hobbies as a kid!
WOW that thing is a beast & I'm looking to buy one soon & will mod it soon I'm sure even I just plan to run it in my yard over the sticks & twigs in my back yard...shout out I'm a big fan of your videos ❤
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Budget build on the green one would be awesome!
Let's do it
I've been looking at these for a week or so, watching videos. Realizing that they are only rc cars but axial needs to rethink the geometry of the links. It has a problem with push off and it lifts the left front on climbs as well as the anti squat are all off. If they got a 4link calculator it would only help how it performs...
Yeah big difference, I sure would’ve got one today if they had them
Nice pretty much everything I was thinking about doing..
It all works together great!
This is like my dream build. I have been trying so hard to get one of these and it is not easy in my country. I love each and every single build you do and I don't know if this is the best place to ask this but I'm just going to go for it because you probably get too many DMs anyway. Would you sell this? I'd love to get this from you! You took the best crawler out there and fixed every problem it had including the servo and those tires and the weight!
Possibly. I'm already pretty deep into it as you can tell. But shoot me an email if you want to chat more about it.
@@CapeCrawlers Emailed you!
I like what you did with your video! (And the truck) never thought they could get better!
Thanks! We can always improve :)
Good stuff...just nit picking...."dont wanna add rotational mass from wheel weights"...adds hesvier tires and rims...i have a motor enroute with more torque....Is it the esc that produces that loud whine alone?...or a combo of the motor and esc?
That thing is sick
I just got a furitek Chameleon today and I love it
Thanks! I've never tried the Chameleon. Might have to!
@@CapeCrawlers I highly recommend it it’s carbon brush and it’s super smooth
Great video, I'm 100% on board with you with not adding any rotational Mass, I go out of my way to avoid it with these rigs especially if you want to keep a stock motor in it. Seems like even a little bit of weight in the wheels drags the motor down pretty good
Agreed!
What a difference from stock 💪. Definitely do a budget build on the green one 😎💪👊
Huge difference!
Man that truck is Awsome!!! Just picked one up can’t wait to start modifying it:).
Right on! Have fun!
Brand new to this hobby, I picked up this thing yesterday and have been watching tons of videos on upgrades. Is there a better shock option for these? And thank you for all the great info that you pass along to us.
I haven't seen shock options for the AX24 yet, but I am sure we will see them soon. Thanks for watching!
@@CapeCrawlers ok thanks , just wondering . I know this little crawler is new . I’m sure there will be something eventually . Thank you and I appreciate all the info and great videos.
@@CapeCrawlers Could you not just use SCX24 shocks in whatever size you want?
Great video. I'm considering in buying this crawler. Any upgades you know of to cut down or eliminate the high pitch noise it makes when moving?
Night and day difference brother 👍🏻 keep up the good work
Totally! Will do!
Great video as always sir!!!
Have you ever seen people that use B.B.s to create faux mud pits?
I think that would be a really entertaining addition in your "HOT TUB" feature on your course.
Thats a great idea!
@@CapeCrawlers thank you... i thought so...lol
Glad you like it!!!
Starting to have 2nd thoughts on the shocks, when I get this.
I read that this thing has 51mm shocks....what's 3 more mm just to get another set of those 54mm shocks? Which I'm starting to think about getting for this rig. Lol
I just hope that both Treal & Injora come out with links & drive shafts for this specific rig, all in all, & definitely need weights for all 4 corners of this rig, as well.
What's another 7mm for 58's?! LOL I'm expecting a flood of links and brass and shocks for this thing soon. Treal and Injora act so fast!
@@CapeCrawlers even 58s. Lol
But yeah, I'd expect that out of them.
Definitely interested in a budget build of this, i am not nearly done with my SCX24s so still hesitating to get this one.
I'm going to pick up the budget build soon!
Nice and clear video!Are there tuning parts from the ECX24 compatible with the AX24?
You turned that thing into a lil monster!
Sweet edit at the beginning!
Thanks!
working through the scx24 mods still its a good channel !
Thanks for watching!
Love your videos. Learned a lot about 1/24 scale mods from you. Just picked up the AX24 and started the upgrades. Curious to know what high clearance links might work for the AX24.
RC Addictions 19 just released some high clearance brass links for these: rcaddiction19hclinks.com/
Very informative video as always. Thank you. I’ll definitely be picking up these or very similar upgrades.
In this video are you running stock shocks/springs? I couldn’t tell. If so, try the internal spring mod that 2FMRC has done. It pulls the front end down to the chassis.
Also, thoughts on going the route of portals? Let me know. Thanks!
Stock springs. I like the shocks! I do plan on trying that droop setup though.
GREAT VIDEO!!!!! In it you say when upgrading the steering servo to get the tray set up for 4 link conversion, is that the tray we get if we order from the link you provided?
Thank you! And yes, that tray is what I am still using on this (front and back).
Fantastico ...questi upgrade sono molto utili...gran modifica ...ora è molto racing ...bel video... ciao dall'Italia
Brooo that intro!!! Amazing!!
Thank you!
Yeah I watch for budget build, appreciate you sharing as always. Love the video, I’ll watch for the next one until then peace and chicken grease 😁👍👍😎
Thanks for watching! I hope you get your hands on one of these soon.
I would love to see a budget build off on this rig!!
So question...the ax24 technically uses a servo mount different than the scx24 did you have any issues using the scx24 servo mount
I did not. I used a 4-link compatible scx24 tray and threaded the AX upper links to the outside of it. Worked great. Slightly more narrow than stock but doesn’t seem to hurt it
Is that the tray that comes with the epi ion emac in your link above?
Hey Adam, I finally have some money saved up, and i want to know if it is better to upgrade wheels and tires, or shocks / flex blades first? ( on an SCX24)
Wheels and tires for sure!
@@CapeCrawlers thank you!
Adam you are the man. I wanted to pick your brain on my next crawler. I’m looking to make my ultimate almost comp build I guess. Furitek cayman 4x4 or a nice modded AX24?
Any input would be great.
I will give you my subjective opinion and that is that building a rig from a stock SCX24 is my preferred approach. Only because I (personally) love the process of incrementally upgrading a vehicle. I find it so gratifying and rewarding to see the progress as you modify. The Cayman, although it is a performance bargain, kinda takes the fun out of the build in my opinion.
You are the man. I agree whole heartedly. Life is for living
Hey Adam got another question how did u center rear servo? Put emax on mine and can get it center ..kinda permanent crab walking
There's no easy way to do it unfortunately. Ive heard of folks using adjustable links, or messing with the horn position and linkage mount on the horn itself. Also plugging the rear servo into the CH1, trimming it, then switching channels again. For me, none of that worked. I ended up swapping out electronics and using a Flysky tx/rx combo which allowed me to trim the rear servo independently. If that isnt an option for you, the adjustable steering links seem to be the most popular method.
@@CapeCrawlers thank u very much for this information..very helpful keep up the great videos
FYI the motor will not work with standard frame rails, the motor itself contacts and binds the linkage to where it is not usable. 10:41
Do you mean the stock metal frame rails? I've put two different 050 sized motors in this now and both seem to be working perfectly but I did this sequentially, with the motor coming after the frame rails.
Can you make a video for the mini Orlandoo hunter kits and if you do can you please put a link in the description for all the electronics. This is just a video recommendation thank you
Yes! I actually just had my orlandoo kit delivered yesterday. Hoping to start the build this weekend
Perfect timing 😂
This video pushed me to do all the upgrades you showcased and I love it! Thanks! One question though, how do I avoid so much body twist/rocking when steering in 4WS? When steering hard right, the right rear tire rubs and catches on the body badly. Same for the left front when I steer hard left.
Thanks for watching! The torque twist is a tough nut to crack in this chassis. Generally stiffer springs in the shocks will mitigate twist, but on this rig it will also raise your chassis, which we don't want. You almost have to pick the lesser of two evils.
@@CapeCrawlers Much appreciated! I may have to try stiffer springs because in a hard right it catches so bad on the chassis to the point of almost stopping the motor.
Great video Adam. Yep the rigs looking epic... john
Thanks John! I am really enjoying this thing.
Hi
Did i get that right?
You don't use non vented beadlock tyres without inserts because they don't handle that good when it comes to sidways performance?
You should make a Video an Lipos, how to charge, how to store them and what kind of charger you use.
I feel like you can use a tall tire with no insert so long as the tire/wheel is not vented. The air pressure inside the tire gives it some strength. But I am not a fan of running big tires with no inserts on a vented set up because that's when you get the super wobbly sidewalls.
Awesome video man, it is now behaving exactly like I expected it would. I think as you stated there are much more budget friendly options to achieve the same end result. I question the need for that carbon fiber chassis but it sure does look cool =). I also wonder if the 66t Injora would have smoothed the throttle response out a bit, seems a little jumpy. It might just be the limitation of that ESC because it feels jumpy out of the box as well. The 66t while not quite as torquey, is smoother. Great build I am waiting on my parts to come in to start my build as well. Did you use the standard servo trays that come with the Injora kit, even thought they do not have the slots for the links? great content bud!
Thanks! I did use the standard servo tray and the links threaded in perfectly on the outside of the tray, just like the four link conversion on the SCX24. I think you're right about the 66t. I may swap this out for my LGRP Reaper motor as that is super smooth. I also feel like something is binding and contributing to the jumpiness, but I can't pinpoint it. Let the tinkering begin!
@@CapeCrawlers gotta get into the scale/realism side of things!
Impressive! Nice build.
Quite a change isn't it?!
@@CapeCrawlers Very impressive gains.
Love the insights and sharing! I'm thinking of getting the injuro motor. just one question though, does changing the motor from stock to the injuro help with the modulation? From what I can observe from your video, it does? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for watching! It does help with the modulation. Primarily because the motor just has more power and is spread out better. Check out Mofo RC's channel where he put the little torque beast in the AX24. The smoothness is crazy!
@@CapeCrawlers that makes perfect sense! I'll check out that video too!! Thanks for the reply! and have a nice day!
Great video man, thanks for the parts list too 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for watching!
Boy that esc is
NOISY!!
That's sick!!! Looks great awsome video.
Thanks for watching!
I really like the ax24 and I’ve basically built something Similar to it using a INJORA 50 pro with four wheel steer conversion on my scx24. Oh yeah and buy the way I recommend trying the ogrc comp pins they got dual stage foams and there tread design is pretty good I would love to see how they do on your course
I will check those tires out, thanks!
AX24 got the cape crawlers treatment!
I feel like the AX24 was designed with the CC treatment already lol
Thank you for always sharing your thoughts and builds. It's so helpful. I have a question about the 18g Treal steering knuckles. I installed a set on my Axial SCX24 Bronco and set them loose as you suggested (I think in another video), but I get a lot of slop in the steering. Are they actually supposed to be tightened and then there is just friction between the screw sleeve and steering knuckle? I hope that makes sense...
Thanks for watching! Have you upgraded your steering linkage? Just wondering what exactly is causing the slop. I usually tighten the knuckles then back them out until they are nice and smooth with no friction.
@@CapeCrawlers I ended up upgrading the entire thing due to a broken bolt into the plastic steering linkage. So I have an upgraded servo, with an aluminum horn, brass steering linkage and then the brass knuckles. When I back up the screws a little bit on the knuckles, it also gives them an up/down and side/side wiggle off of the axel housing. I believe that's the source of the slop as everything else feels tight.
Great video! Are you planning to do one on the Furitek Cayman Pro?
I would like to! It's been tough to get my hands on a Cayman, but I am hoping to soon.
This is awesome!!! I’m having a problem getting weights to stay still on my beadlock rims. 😢
What kind of weights are you using?
@@CapeCrawlers just some hot racing snap in weights. The guys at the hobby shop said they work better with beadlock rims but they definitely don’t 😆. First little bump and they fall out of the rim and just dangle 🤣😭
@@A.D.R.C.13 they are for the 4+ mm extended axle set with the 9.5 brass wheel weight spacers won't work with out all that UT it's worth it 😉
@@rcjoe406 thanks brother!
@@A.D.R.C.13 no problem
If you swap out your stock motor and esc/receiver combo for a furitek venom setup with a separate receiver and esc will you still have 4ws?
Subscribed and saved this video. Nice rc! I might invest in one of them.
Thank you! It's a very fun rig. I'll have more content coming for these soon.
This little thing is amazing 👍🏼
Thanks! It's a super fun rig
Great video as always! :) Is there somewhere I can learn more about the four link servo tray conversion? Thank you in advance!
Thank you! I ended up removing the servo trays and going back to stock. But the aluminum four link tray worked well. I was chasing a binding issue which turned out to be the ESC and that's why I swapped the trays. Anyway, you thread a screw through the linkage into the outside of the servo tray, so one link on each outer part of the traditional linkage mount if that makes sense. I don't have a video specifically on it but I can make a short if the above isnt clear.
@@CapeCrawlersthanks for the detailed and prompt response! I totally get what you meant!! Just to clarify, does that mean the stock servo trays can accommodate the emax servos? Thank you again! :)))
When adding weight on 4ws trucks am I still looking for 60/40 distribution?
Hi Adam, run a comparison with the ax24 and your already built 4 wheel steer conversion that you did. I believe it was a deadbolt?? Both the modded versions. Just to see if the chassis is the advantage or if it's actually the 4 wheel steer??
That would be an excellent comparison!
@@CapeCrawlers Maybe do a price comparison as well on what it cost to get each rig to where it is?
I dig your videos they have helped me a lot I recently did the emax servos front and back and can't figure out how to adjust the back servo so I'm not driving at an angle
I did some research and so far as I can tell, the trim adjustment only works on the front wheels. I am going to do some testing tonight to see if I can figure out a workaround.
@@CapeCrawlers I'm going to try one of the injora steering linkage with threaded ends
Perhaps u need to put the servo horn on straight and or tighten the stock horn. Hope helps
@@duramaxdad I ended up fiddling with it getting it kind of close but not enough and I got one of the old style injora steering linkage setups with the plastic ends and just adjusted by screwing them out
@@sickboy1031 awesome job. Keep on crawling.
Great video. I really like these these rigs, but why are they so noisy? That whining sound would ruin me. My FCX24 is silent by comparison.
The esc is pretty crappy. It’s noisy and the slow crawl is lacking. It can definitely benefit from an upgraded set of electronics!
Very well done.
Cool another 400 project 😎
They never end!
@@CapeCrawlers thank goodness 😅
Would love to see you try and paint a clear ax24 body for her
I was scoping out the clear bodies earlier. I think I'll give it a go soon.
I'm making a indoor crawler course and I was wondering what kind of bridge I should make! Can you please help me out m8?
A couple of ideas: I made a log bridge with some rope and tree branches. It's a lot of fun and looks great on the course; very organic. Also, my local hobby shop made a bridge out of two parallel pieces of rope. It's SUPER challenging and really easy to set up!
@@CapeCrawlers thank you very much mate I definitely love log bridges
I like it ! Now I need one .👍
Yes you do!
Why do you avoid rotational mass on a slow speed crawler? I'm curious what your reasoning is. I was taught that it affects performance as weight and speed increase. At low speeds and weight, there is a limited effect. For example, my friend has been running 2 scx10.3 for over 2yrs now, one stock and the other is brassed out with brass rims. Drives the modded one way more, hasn't blown any bearings or anything they have been told would happen..
I think it's that traditional mentality for the exact reasons you mentioned but may not necessarily make a noticeable difference on longevity for these little things. But in general the thought of the additional energy need to begin, maintain, and slow down the rotational weight is a consideration, but again, how much are we really talking here.
Hello, is there anything you would change in this build now? I have a stock ax24 and am looking to do all the mods you have done here. Thanks
I would do the Injora MB100 brushed esc as the one of, if not the first upgrade. That will then make all of the others work so much better.
Great vid! Cheers!
Thanks for watching!
Well I broke down n sold one of my trx4m so I could put that $ towards an Axial ax24. What should the first upgrade be? Gotta go slower with this, make it more satisfying, lol.
I think the brass knuckles and diff covers would be first, or the brass skid and carbon fiber frame rails. Either one will help a lot for stability which is what it really needs
That thing is awesome !
I'm digging it. Lots of fun!