Mercedes C300 C250 W204 ESL motor replacement. How to do it the right way.
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2022
- Replace the motor in your W204 Mercedes C300 C250 C63 the right way.
If you replaced the motor, and it did not work. I can program another ESL to your vehicle or program an electronic emulator to replace the factory ESL. Get in contact with me if you require these services.
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-Michael
Mercedes Benz Specialist
Tools used:
ESL Spring Pin Removal Pick Tool
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ESL Replacement Motor
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I just did this tonight on my 2012 GLK350 Base. Got the ESL out, took forever. Used a T5 Torx bit to remove the roll pins. I tried to be really careful pulling out the circuit board but the black arm jumped off. This video was spot on and I was able to get it back together with the new motor and back into the care. Works great, no issues to report.
If this thing should fail again I am going to be contacting you for an emulator.
I’m glad it helped.
How is it doing so far?
Great video. Close up shots were perfect. Great production values . I appreciate all the work you put into this video
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Nice video! Thanks for all of your help with my cars ESL issue. Hopefully installing emulator in tomorrow! 👍
Glad to help Noah!
How did the install go??
Thank you, saved me $1000+ on repairs.
Listen for those attempting to do this, it's super easy if you're mechanical inclined. You can still get through this if you're a noob but take your time there are no shortcuts removing the esl. Have fun!
Nice job saving big bucks. Keep in mind the little Chinese motor you put in there is only going to last 18-24 months at best. The permanent fix is going with an electronic ESL emulator.
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@@mercedesbenzspecialist Do you happen to know where I can source a quality ESL motor instead of the Chinese manufactured motor?
@@johnkaimins9998 I’ve searched high and low. All of them available in the after market are made in China.
@@mercedesbenzspecialist Thank you for the reply! I have since discovered that my Mercedes is fitted with the earlier steering lock with the larger cylindrical motor. I obtained a 2nd hand motor to investigate what could go wrong. I found minimal wear on the brushes, but a lot of carbon powder throughout the motor leading me to suspect that the carbon could lead to shorting of the armature slots. I have cleaned the motor with contact cleaner and will install to check how well it works.
Great video, only one that helped me to assemble esl correctly
Glad it helped. I should share my experience with you. The Chinese motor you used to replace the German motor will last less than 2 years.
I know this because I used to replace the motors in these for years back in 2015. I did hundreds of them. They all failed within 2 years. That’s why we started using the electronic emulator instead. It’s a permanent fix. If you need one of these in the future. We provide that service.
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helpful, thanks!
Just a related question, please.
I bought a W204 2012 C300 but it only had 1 key.
Is it expensive to get a Spare Key.
Since those two very sad switches (depressed) 😊 are what presumably allow the EIS to function, could they not be bypassed to N/C permanently and not bother to use the motor for steering lock? Great video by the way👌.
Called you this morning and left a voicemail regarding an emulator service. Haven't heard back...
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Thank you for this very informative video. Quick Q ~ I have heard that prior to removing an unlocked (but still working) ESL in order to replace the motor (on a 2004 Mercedes), the main battery MUST be disconnected and the key left in the ignition switch. Is this correct?
Yes correct.
@@mercedesbenzspecialist Thank you ~ I appreciate the prompt reply 🙂
Brilliant video dude! got a quick question. mine unfortunately Is stuck in the locked position, I’ve seen I can drill a small hole and manually spin the cog to unlock and remove the esl, to then replace the motor. Will the car notice on the next plug in that it is open when I reinstall in the open position following your steps or will it need reprogramming because the last thing it knew was it was locked? (I can hear the ticking noise when insert the key)
It will not need programming. Keep in mind that replacing the motor is a temporary solution. The Chinese motor you purchased will last 1-2 years. It will fail again. The best solution is to replace that factory ESL with an electronic emulator. You can check out our emulator programming service on our website: mercedesbenzspecialist.net
@@mercedesbenzspecialist thanks for the info, will most likely go for the emulator, sadly in the UK or would have had it sent straight to you
Thanks. I di not understand why the Programing was required if you only change the Faulty Motor?
I thought the Key, EIS and ESL would already be "matching" data/program.
You’re correct.
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Thanks, so I can change the Motor and DO NOT need to get any Programing done?
Can I replace a blocked NEC chip with a factory new one? Or does every NEC chip have basic programming? Do I have to transfer the data from the EIS to the ESL?
Is that also possible with Simon Touch's ESL Doctor from Lebanon?
Warm greetings from Germany.
Hello, I've never tried that. It's much easier to use an electronic emulator to replace the factory ESL. If you must keep the factory ESL, you can get a used or rebuilt one that has an unlocked NEC chip. You would need to "renew" it, then write the data from the EIS to the ESL.
Great video! Very detailed! My ESL failed in unlock position, I want to attempt the motor change before going further and changing to emulator. My question is after I change motor is there any other programming required or if the board is fine it will work upon install?
Thank you
Yes, if the board is good and you follow the details about installing the new motor making sure the gear wheel is in the correct position and the two switches are depressed. It will work upon install.
@@mercedesbenzspecialist Thanks a lot for response! Yes I will follow your video. I hope the board is good maybe since it’s making clicking sound it’s indication it’s trying.
@@mindwellness6257 yes if it’s clicking the board is still good.
Hi there, do you have any contacts in South Africa that can assist with a emulator and the programing . I've surched on the internet, but, couldn't find any ......Thanks for a well presented video👍
Unfortunately not. Try the mhhauto.com forums.
Thanks for the video. Very informative and extremely helpful. I followed your instructions to replace the motor and it worked for a while, but now I only hear a clicking noise when I insert the key. The car does not start. Do you think the switches are bad?
The common problems are issues with the esl box especially if it’s been drilled. The metal burrs can interfere with movement of the plastic gears.
Also the Chinese motor used to replace the German motor does not last nearly as long.
For these reasons I recommend the ESL emulator.
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@@mercedesbenzspecialist Thanks for the reply. Do you think I can get the ignition switch out without taking the steering wheel off?
I don’t think so. Removing the steering wheel is not difficult. It can be done in 5 minutes.
Just be sure to disconnect the negative battery cable before you disconnect the airbag.
@@mercedesbenzspecialist Okay, I"m going to start working on getting the Ignition switch out. Once I get it out, can I overnight it to you and send you a label to send it back? Should I just send my key and the ignition switch?
Yes just the key and switch.
Yes you can send it overnight and provide a return label.
We have ups overnight shipping both ways available for $100. If that beats your price, I can send you a label.
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Sent an email brother!
Hope all i well.
Mine is stuck in unlocked position now. Can i remove the esl while the key is inserted so it “programs the chip in unlocked”
Would that work? Or it doesn’t matter?
No that won’t work.
If you’re esl is stuck in the unlocked position. The circuit board is now locked. It won’t work again even if you change the motor.
Time to get a programmed emulator.
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There is E350 W212 2013. As i put key in slot there is no sount of steering lock clunk!!! Even the message pop up.. please take your key from ignition... instrument cluster has enlightened but not crank... any help??
W212 2013 does not have a steering lock.
Basics first.
Battery voltage
Starter fuse and relay
Starter
If all the above are good. It’s most likely the ECM.
Hi, your video are very good. Do you have a tips to share, how do we as mercedes owner know when the esl will dead.
A mercedes technician told me that if the key sucking sound still loud to hear, it mean the esl still in good conditon, but if it already slow sucking sound, the esl are near to dead. Is that correct?
Thank you.
Yes that is correct. The motor inside the ESL is what makes that sound when you insert/remove your key into the EIS. A fast turning motor is an indication that it's still good. It's best to tackle this job before it fails. You can get the ESL out of the steering column much easier when it's in the unlocked position. If you can get it to unlock by simply inserting the key into the ignition switch, you'll save yourself the labor of having to remove the entire steering column to cut out the lock.
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@@mercedesbenzspecialist about the chinese motor, i read at your comment below, that chinese motor will be broken between 1-3 years. so changing to chinese motor is not a good idea because short life span, how about if we bring 2 keys, 1 let the key insert in the EIS all the time, and when we park, we use another key to lock the door. so the ESL motor are not engage and dis-engage, and the ESL presumably will not be broken. Can this trick applicable?
@@hengkywijaya7253 You cannot lock the doors with a key in the EIS.
This is happening to the models that use that system from around those years, EVERYONE report to NHTSA and to MBUSA, they have to fix this for free or a CLASS action will cost them more
Wait...so you can't just go to Mercedes, purchase a new ESL, plug it in and be good to go? Mine is currently stuck in an unlock state (which I believe I got lucky). But even in this case the new ESL from Mercedes will still need to be programmed? No plug and play?
That's right. It needs to be programmed. Also, Mercedes will not sell you just the part alone. It's on their TRP (Theft Related Parts) list. You must purchase it from them and have it installed and programmed by them. BIG BUCKS!!! $2500 if they are in a good mood.
You can get this done for much less. We provide an ESL emulator programming service. We need the ignition switch and key from your Mercedes. We program an ESL emulator that will be plug n play when you receive it back from us.
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if, only replace motor ,should I reprogam?
No programming is required if you only replaced the motor. If it's still not working after replacing the motor, and you did it correctly... we can assume the circuit board is no good.
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Hello friend, when you change the internal motor of the ELV module, is it mandatory to program it? because I bought an internal motor on eBay, I changed it myself, connected it to the module and then to the vehicle and nothing happened, it's still blocked. What I can do?
If you followed the instructions in the video, and it still did not work. The circuit board is locked. It won't work anymore. You must replace it with either a emulator or another factory ESL. Both will require programming. The emulator is the clear choice for reliability. The factory ESL will last about 18-24 months before it fails again. The Chinese manufactured motor does not last 10-12 years like the original German manufactured motor does.
We program emulators and factory ESLs. You can find out more about our emulator programming service on our website.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to help me, blessings@@mercedesbenzspecialist
hello .yestarday i change the motor..i put the key on ingition,unlock the sterring lock,unpluged the battery, and i change the motor..but after i change it with the new one... it dosent work at all,even when i put back the old motor,dosent work too....do i need to reprogram it again?what do you think have hapend? i mean it was working.. ofc not properly,but working..until the time i change the motor...
Could be the the circuit board went out. Did you have the two switches in the depressed position after installing the new motor and closing it back up?
You may need an electronic emulator to get it going.
We provide that service. You can find us on our website.
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@@mercedesbenzspecialist hello.yes the switches are ok.i think the Nec chip needs reprograming... i read the car for failure codes and it saw me that the key switch dosent communicate with the ESL/probaply is the Nec chip that needs reprograming?
@@ApTolis the nec chip only needs programming if it does not belong to your vehicle.
You only changed the motor correct? It’s your original ESL?
The NEC most likely locked up. You can unlock it with the right tools. But it takes 12-24 hours to unlock it. Then 50% of the time it can’t be re-written.
It’s best and less costly to go with an electronic emulator for $250.
Or a rebuilt programmed factory Esl for $345. We offer both solutions on our website.
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@@mercedesbenzspecialist yes esl is from my car.and yes i only change the motor..i didnt touch anything els.and this is why i dont get it. BEfore i remove the esl,i remove the battery,after i remove the esl,and the motor.i plug the green cable on it,battery back...and i saw that nothing hapends..somehow like i said the key switch lost the comunication with the esl.. anyway thanks for the info..
By the way live in New Jersey.
I know shops in NJ who have worked with me to solve this issue. Get in contact with me. 562.233.0989
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How can I get mine diagnosed I am stuck
Watch my video on the symptoms of having a failed ESL. ruclips.net/video/n0c0kSCHtyk/видео.html
You can also send me your EIS (Electronic Ignition Switch), the ESL (Electronic Steering Lock), and your keys. With those parts I can diagnose the issue and provide a solution.
-Michael
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My car is doing the same thing but I notice that I can still turn my steering wheel it's not locked so what could the problem be
The steering lock could have failed in the unlocked position.
When the key is removed from the ignition, the steering column should lock. If that is not happening, you have a faulty steering lock.
@@mercedesbenzspecialistcan I still replace the ESL motor if it's stuck in the unlocked position? Would that potentially fix it? I just bought the German motor and my steering wheel also seems unlocked. I wanted to give it a shot before I resort to an emulator 😮💨
I am interested how much i need a spare key 🔑 and emulater?
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If I only send you one of my keys, will the key I don't send you still work?
Yes it will work. I’m not reprogramming anything. I’m reading your programming and copying it to the ESL emulator.
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Just happened to my 2014 mercedes C300 dealer is telling me 4000 dollars to fix what should I do.
Do it yourself. Or hire a mechanic to remove the ignition switch and electronic steering lock. I can program the steering lock emulator for you.
Get in contact with me. 562.233.0989
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How can I speak with u? I need a programes Esl for a 2014 c250
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can not get the pins out.Anyone help
Still waiting on someone to give advice on how to get stuck pins out
Drill them out using metal cutting drill bits.
that what i have done eventually ,i thought there would have been a trick but there is none and only way was to enlarge the hole with a drill
HI Michel, I am from Ontario - Canada =. Can you provide me programmed ESL?
I need your EIS and key to program a ESL or ESL emulator.
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How do I connect you
Call within the USA.
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I need you so bad I need to know where an how
I... don't know what you mean.
I know you may not answer this due to you losing business, but can’t you just take out the motor or the locking pin? There is ways to bypass the ESL, the locking pin is what screws everyone! Correct me if I’m wrong.
No, removing the locking pin will not bypass the system.
It’s not the locking pin that causes a no crank no start situation.
Inside the esl there is a circuit board. When the small motor inside the esl actuates, a gear moves a plastic arm that depresses two switches on that circuit board. Those two switches send a signal two the ignition switch signifying that the correct key is being used. Basically, the two switches give a green light for “Drive Authorization”.
If the motor doesn’t move, those two switches do not give authorization to start the car. You get a no crank situation.
@@mercedesbenzspecialist gotcha, your the only one who I seen talk about this issue explain the the 2 switches. Makes sense now, thanks!