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@@MrBallen nice
To be honest, if I came running out of the woods, literally butt naked, with a handcuff on my wrist and obvious signs of abuse, I too would be offended at being asked to take a lie detector test.
Agreed
Same
Police treat sex workers horribly! It's inexcusable.
I have gotten nervous before at the idea of being suspected even though I'm innocent. Lie detectors are fallible.
No kidding. You have this girl ending up like this, giving exact details that matched up to a man she never knew and would have no reason to frame, and somehow THAT'S not good enough for police... But a psychological profile IS? What the absolute duck
Letting them “escape” to be hunted by him because he knew they couldn’t escape the property is truly horrifying. Thats pure evil
Tuxedo cats are the best !
Disgusting that he didn't get the death penalty. Seriously disturbing.
And then intentionally wounding (WITHOUT KILLING) them so he could hunt them even more
This happened in a Supernatural episode. Escape Sammy was smart enough to know they were hunting them.
I read a book with similarities to this story in highschool called "The most dangerous game"
I met Robert Hansen and shook his clammy hand. True story: In 1982 I worked at a convenience store in Fairview, an Anchorage community surrounding a main drag. His bakery was creatively named "Hansen's Bakery" and was next door to the QwikStop in the strip mall on Gambell. It was early morning and I happened to be ending shift as the "night guy".
Through the glass door to the hallway and his bakery I saw Mr. Hansen and thought I'd step over and meet this dude who owned the donut place next door. We bought donuts from, of course. I'm very tall and I remember him looking up at me with an expressionless face and those same glasses you see at 15:50 in this video. He softly said "hi" in a voice that sounded like he was talking to himself.
"Not a real outgoing guy", I thought to myself. But I admired him for starting up his own gig and making the American Dream happen for him. I hopped in my car and went home, not knowing I had just met a man who had either recently finished a "hunt" or was getting ready for his next. I shook the hand of a serial killer, not long before he was caught. Eww. This is a true story and I will never forget the look on his face.
Everything's fine and all,but I wish u wouldnt call that guy "Mr."!
He did live the American Dream to the fullest - taking the freedom of others and mercilessly killing and torturing them.
@@bonjy3701you’re a goof
Men with weak handshakes can not be trusted.
@@bonjy3701 Wow, brutal, see what you are saying though...
This is so infuriating because even though Cindy was traumatized and terrified after being assaulted and almost killed she still did everything she could to get the police to catch this guy and they even with all the evidence and support they just left it which resulted in the death of more women. Cindy is incredible brave and selfless for doing what she did and I hope she was able to recover from what happened.
rich people privilege. the police doesn't go after wealthy people unless they absolutely have to.
I learned that living in the same neighbourhood at the time that the Yorkshire ripper was killing women every couple of weeks. The police didn’t take any of it seriously, it was just sex workers. Until he started to kill ‘’ innocent women’’ there words not mine. as if somehow it was ok to kill some women but not the innocent ones. It’s amazing how women are ranked into innocent or deceiving of their fate because somehow they asked for it and the law not there for them. I hope time have changed.But I doubt it.
@@sam-psonsmith9951how do you know he was wealthy
@@DJKhaled69420 A: Because i watched a different video which went into more detail about this case.
and B: Because i actually used my earballs to listen to what was said in this video. which mentioned that in less detail.
@@sam-psonsmith9951 "How did you know he was wealthy" Oh gee I dunno his private airplane and hunting cabin and successful business owner didn't tip him off? lol
You are totally right too there are two justice systems in this country, one for the rich and one for the poor, it's insane what you can get away with if you have money. Sad too what happened to Cindy with the lie detector BS too when lie detectors are famously not admissible in court because they are pseudoscience nonsense that don't prove one way or another if someone is lying or not, they only prove someone is nervous.
It's just crazy to me that a teenager who is clearly terrified, can describe everything about this man perfectly and was found running half naked down the road with handcuffs on is not enough evidence to say this is the guy. That's wild.
It's because cops don't generally trust prostitutes. That's one of the things that makes prostitutes easy targets for serial killers.
@@tysoncarter7665 Pretty big assumption there. Almost like they need something more solid than a story to convict someone.
@@emalinedickinson7492 you can be convicted on nothing more than a story.
@@emalinedickinson7492 It's not an assumption, it's a pattern. Police refuse to believe anything sex workers say most of the time and it's sad
@@aliciaroelens2630 nah it ain’t sad 😂
Imagine being the girl who escaped and finding out what she had almost been a victim of.
I'm also imagining how many bodies are undiscovered in that general area.
I mean, if people just discovered three by accident in an area that is so sparsely populated, imagine how many are buried or laying around in the open and just haven't been found.
@@scottcantdance804 There were quite a few that they never found of his. They show their pictures at the end of the movie On Frozen Ground.
@@scottcantdance804 it said there were 37 Xs on the map he had and if they found bodies in 4 of those Xs then that means the others are very likely spots of a body. Very sad
And then also not be believed by the police
@Michael McGrath, She already knew she would be his victim. That's why she ran.
If a potential victim sees the killers face. It's obvious they're not going to let her go. She can identify them.
Let's not forget that this happened decades ago. But the fact that they doubted her story RIGHT AWAY when she refused the lie detector kinda proves they'd rather believe the perpetrator at the time. Why? Coz of her job. It's just sad how they've already got a bunch of cold murder/missing person cases in the area and they chose not to lean heavily on the first major lead they had.
I remember reading a short story called “Dangerous Game” in middle school. It was about a hunter who washed up on an island after a shipwreck and found a rich hunter living there who loved to hunt dangerous animals and had made a sport of hunting humans who washed up on the island. The the rest of the story followed the protagonist being forced to play a twisted game of cat and mouse with the rich hunter.
Was just thinking about this. In my freshman year I read that and I thought that this was awfully similar to that. But this came after that was written I believe. Possible he read it and thought, "Oh cool, I'm going to do this"
The Most Dangerous Game was one of my favorite reads in my earlier high school days, even watched the film on it from the 30s, was very interesting.
Good book. It is called "the most dangerous game in the world " written by Richard Connell in 1924.
A classic in the early 20th century horror literature.
Letting them wander in the woods while he hunted them, is another level of horror.
Not to mention the whole island part of it. Nobody on the island had a chance
They still finding bones off knik river, thought to be more victims. Fun fact: he was a barber in Seward Correctional Center.
Hey I mean at least he was nice enough to give them a chance at staying a step ahead of Requiem!
I'm sure Hollywood has made a movie like this sick shit, saw, hostel, etc ..some weird bastards out there...
The animal now hunts the humans..
Cindy: escapes, remembers every single detail, left her shoe behind on the plane to show she had been there, takes the police everywhere they need to go.
Police: well like...his friend said he was with him so...you should take a lie detector test
I got so mad about that.
@@misscyanide3065 same... Like, of course the sex worker was making it up... Makes me so mad.
It’s Not Fair
So true, Those police unintentionally killed someone because of their Ignorance.
Maybe coz people can get framed too.
How could they believe his alibis when the security guard at the airport told them he was there and even noted down the license plate?
The more I watch these videos, the less faith I have in cops.
That is indeed the appropriate way to feel about cops. The *only* story anyone needs to hear to completely disregard the idea that the police can be trusted more than any other stranger with a gun is that of Jeffrey Dahmer. One of his victims got away, got to the cops, after having a hole drilled in his head and acid poured into it, and they gave him back to Dahmer, all the while making homophobic jokes.
I think that the security guard didn't see him since in the video the guy said he saw a man( He doesn't identify the man as Robert at all in the video) doing something suspicious so he wrote the license plate and probably just left immediately. But then again why didn't the police ask Robert about who drove the car that night since he was "innocent" because of the alibi's ? The answer is simply since in the video it explains that the police didn't believe what Cindy said anymore since the alibi's covered Robert at the time , so they probably took the story as a hoax and took her words as lies due to Cindy not taking the lie detector, so they most likely dismissed her words as lies so yea. In short the security guard said something crucial that would have blow the case open with Cindy's first-hand account if the police were just bit more convinced by Cindy but because she didn't want to take the lie detector test her words were regarded false and Robert with that notion could have lied that a friend of his was at the hangar getting something for him and since the security guard to my knowledge didn't see Robert at all could not deny this lie , so yea it was a great opportunity for justice but with an unfortunate horrifying conclusion of an ending since we now know what happened to those ladies who suffered a fate so gruesome and the killer almost got away with it. If I'm wrong pls correct me.
Then you're paying attention. The police aren't here to protect us. At best they sometimes solve crimes after the damage is done. But if it's someone from the lower class of society they are more likely to be victimized by the police than helped by them. Damn near a guarantee if you are a minority or someone in crisis.
As much as i agree that the police didnt do their jobs here and treated the victim badly/ let a serial killer continue on the loose, i think ballen said the security guard had seen him the previous day acting weird at the airport, but it was the day after when he was there trying to fly his victim away, the alibi was from when the woman escaped, not for any previois days he was there.
Sadly I think the cops thought who should we believe? A “respectable local business man” or a “working girl” I imagine it came down to that rationale, wrong as it is for them to make assumptions in that way. I guess it is only human to do that although life is full of people examples why we shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. Like walking into a shop wearing a suit or smart shoes shirt and tie nobody gives you a second glance. Wear a hoody security will follow you in case you shoplift. Or take the example in the brilliant dark but funny cartoon Monkey Dust (3 seasons but I think the BBC only released 1 on DVD as they were scared about some of the sketches in later seasons). Anyway….there is a sketch about 2 guys being interviewed to be pilots. The first guy looks immaculate and scored top marks for his flying ability but because he had a weird voice they didn’t give him the job. The other guy had a claw for a hand and was constantly drooling and failed all his flying tests. But then he says in a perfect English accent “well folks this your captain speaking settle in for your flight we’ll be arriving at your destination on time”. And they say “great when can you start?” and he gets the job😂
I've heard this story so many times, and it's still my number one fear. Absolutely terrifying.The mental torture thinking I'm free to be hunted is absolutely horrifying. Cindy is and was a hero.
How so?
I mean, I'm glad she survived, but at no point did her testimony amount to an arrest.
@@Deverik1981she’s a hero, because she knew she could still be hunted if she came forward. Most people who come forward about something become outed to the media
And the murderers could then see her identity and legal name (which could be used for tracking)
She also tried her best to help the police as much as possible
ALSO the idea of someone surviving such a horrible thing can make someone a hero in other people’s eyes (as an inspiration type thing)
The woman who escaped was really smart for realizing that she would’ve been killed if she didn’t escape right away. That’s so terrifying to think about what could’ve happened to her if she didn’t jump out of the plane.
If she didn’t escape she might’ve been one of those women who will never be identified. What a horrific story I hope that bastard suffered when he died
@@xAlphaBxtch and the fact that she stopped him from killing so many other women true hero
Yea she is real smart for that it’s sad seeing so many smart ppl end up as prostitution bc of money need 😔
Yeah that's a giveaway.. if I ever get robbed by someone who's not masked I'd be a lot more scared than if they were masked
The same thing that happend to her after she did
Shout out to the guy who picked her up no questions asked
edit thank u for all the likes :)
wtf
@@_helenadesousa what's wrong
@@Gyropop oh i thought you meant when he kiddnapped her not when she was saved
I actually had a very similar situation in Waycross Georgia in 2008. I was on my way back to college, it was late (11PM-ish), and I was stopped at a stop sign trying to figure out which way to go (no GPS). As I was sitting there (no traffic at the overpass) looking at a map, a lady jumped in the passenger side and just said "drive", which I did. I was kinda freaked out, but I got her away from there and ended up taking her to the police department. Apparently her bf had gotten high on coke and started beating the shit of of her and she ran with him coming after her.
People are fucking psycho.
@@maddog4u31757 I hope you find $100 on the ground tmrw. Good on you man, that's an amazing story
I’m from Alaska and went to university in Anchorage. The scariest part of this case to me was I remember sitting in a law class discussing this and we had an elderly gentleman who sat in the back who told us about going to Robert Hansen’s bakery as a small child with his mom and he would give him sugar cookies and tell him how much of a cute kid he was. He said it messed with his head as adult to learn what that man was doing on the side and reconciling it the image of kindly baker he had. He warned us that you never truly know a person. (Annnnnnd Israel Keyes was arrested around three months later that year. It was a busy time to be in anchorage 😬)
Mr. Ballen is the Bob Ross of strange dark and mysterious stories.
Oh. My. God. That's fucking PERFECT!!!!
His "friends" should be charged too. Because of their lies, more people were killed.
They probably thought it was about something small they didn’t know he was a serial killer
@@NoName-gd4gv yeah, like a whole bunch of cops coming to their lots.
Exactly what I thought! Potential prevented deaths.
Never cover for your friends. You’re teaching them their actions don’t have consequences, and there’s always a small possibility you’re putting people at risk.
@@annataymond9529 yeah I agree
the fact that some killers are just so smart makes it more worrying
Ya seriously
@Claire Redfield you're right.
@Claire Redfield ayo its Claire redfield from resident evil
Psychopaths/sociopaths usually are highly intelligent
Also really sad that they couldn't direct that passion and intellect towards bettering humanity, instead of murdering innocents.
Two people saying “ya he was here.” Is not a rock solid alibi.
Cindy is a Hero. She was only 17. She suffered at his hands & managed to escape a serial killer & saved so many other girls from suffering the same fate.
I do hope Cindy is in a good place & living the life she always wanted to
You must have missed the part where Cindy didn't call the police it was the hotel clerk who involved the cops not Cindy it was only after she had to talk to authorities that she did, say someone who sees a fire and doesn't say anything...is that a hero? After she didn't alert the cops immediately Cindy wasn't believed initially she skipped town, if anyone is the hero it's the hotel clerk who called the cops
@@IhavetostartwipingbetterPut yourself in her shoes. It was traumatizing for her!
She was even brave enough to flee also she helped the police even if it was not easy for her!
@@IhavetostartwipingbetterDude, slag off with that. If I went through that, I’d need a breather too. But she’s the one who survived, told her story, and insisted they check the airport before getting medical attention.
Mr.ballen is like that substitute teacher everyone loves. Gets caught up telling stories all period and we end up getting no class work done
True...My teacher does that tho
Haha one class we made our teacher cry an she quit. The school brought in a sub who just told us old war stories. He ended up staying on full time throughout the year, homeboy was dope.
@@gmfb521 BEST TURN OF EVENTS EVER!
I loved those types of classes
I got that beat.. Senior year my english teacher had a baby like a month into the year and we had a substitute the whole rest of the year.. It was this old Pakistani dude that didnt give a fuckkkk about anything. We never opened a book. Never took a test. Never had homework or classwork. He spent the entire class period drawing students names in cool fonts on index cards to post inside our lockers. Not kidding.. That is literally all he did. Day in and day out just drawing names all fancy like. Can't blame him tho. He was getting paid to chill all day and be one of the homies. If you didnt wanna come to class you just tell him ahead of time and he had your back.. Dude was like 80 years old but the funniest old man i ever met. Mr Manda was a true OG
Can we all just thank that security guard for doing his job so well💯💯💯
Don't forget the motel clerk. While the security guard might not have tied the situation to a crime (keeping in mind a plane's owner would generally be an upper middle class person), he still jotted down the license plate. That was good on him for being a good observer. The clerk made the effort to call the police based on something not seeming to be right with the young guest. That got the 'ball rolling' as far as getting the murderer attention that would eventually be his undoing. On a side note, that was disturbing that a couple people corroborating a simple story could derail the entire young victim's timeline of events, especially considering she had many details up to and including a plane (where the security guard confirmed tying the guy to the girl's story).
@@culcune: You are so very correct. I mean, don't police know that family and friends will definitely LIE for someone they care about??
Alibis should only be like what polygraph tests are: Just a tool on the way to the truth behind crimes.
Good ppl are sometimes all that keeps life going, kudos to the mensch.
RIIIIIGHT??! Thank God!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yes!!! 🤘🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Cindy perfectly described the man, the car driven, the inside of the house, ths hangar, and the plane. A securify guard even noticed suspicious activity of the same plane owner and got a locense plate number. Yet, that somehow wasn't enough to get a search warrant of his house.
how did the profiler know he had a lisp? that dude is crazy good at his job
Not that hard to figure that out
Right?! Like how does someone begin coming up with that specific of a profile…
@@grapevine2506 how tf would he know, he didnt know who the guy was
So curious on this also. All the other parts make sense, but the fact he was able to look at the crimes and determine the guy had a lisp is crazy. Makes no sense how that information could be determined.
@@fr3akfr3ak71 i’m sure there’s got to be some kind of habits people with lisp’s have that other wouldn’t partake in, maybe it was just a really good guess based off of watching habits?
That security guard is a good man for taking down that guys license plate, kids always trust your gut feeling
What good did that do if the cops
did nothing with that information except believe the killer and let him continue his killing spree.SLOPPY POLICE WORK. I hope they were fired since they didn't know how to conduct an investigation. Letting a serial killer keep killing.SMFH..
@@robertmedina5997 damn that's pretty narrow minded and frankly stupid. They wouldn't have been able to do anything without substantial proof against Robert.
@@robertmedina5997 The police had no legal basis to get, Hansen, to take a lie detector test. But, they could have put a tracking; device on his vehicle and looked to see where he went, if any kind of a pattern emerges. Over time, it would have. Then using a pretext, they could have questioned him. Discrepancies would soon become apparent, leading to more questions. There's little doubt that inconsistencies would occur. As, Abraham Lincoln, famously said, "To be a good liar, you better have a damn good memory". Most people don't. That's how most criminals get caught.
Yes he is!
@@UmarAli-tq8pl pop
That girl is an absolute bad ass. Only 17 and realized he was not going to let her go and she had to try and escape and risk dying then to prevent the guarantee of death later. She remembered the hanger, the plane, the man. She did everything right. Also, I don't blame her for not doing the polygraph. I'm glad she got out of town. I hope her life got better from there.
She could probably also see how little the cops cared and seemingly were looking for reasons to disbelieve her.
In the face of all she gave them, plus the airfield security guard's information -- the dude's two friends saying they were with him is hardly "a rock solid alibi"!
Little_Lion_Heart : She tells the cops about being chained up and assaulted in his basement,but when they have a chance to look around his house they don't go down into the basement?
Just what the F?
Frigging clown show could've cost someone else their life.
Oh.And I guess those asshats never stopped to consider his alibis were lying for him?
the police where like: "uh? why you no trust our monkey tech? uh uh uh?"
She probably though she would get arrested if she failed the lie detector
She had/has bad PTSD but was basically scared straight. Read the book Butcher Baker if you are interested in this case.
My mother was an English professor in maximum security prisons in the ‘80s, and was Hansen’s teacher. She said he was always polite, but that she had to be locked in a room with him. This made her uncomfortable, in spite of her experience with other killers. It’s thought that, like a more recent AK serial killer, Israel Keyes, the Butcher Baker is responsible for murders in the lower 48. For me, the heartbreaking takeaway is the blatant disregard of sex workers, people as valuable as any others.
Do you know if the Ak serial killer and butcher baker is in Mr. Ballens list?
@@Near456 you just saw it. They called him the Butcher Baker because he owned a bakery, and took his victims out to the bush and hunted them. We have an unnerving number of serial killers up here. Another well known one would be Isreal Keyes
Agreed. It’s very sad. I can’t imagine the horrors prostitutes face on a daily basis. What a terrible life for someone to have. There is hope for anyone to turn it around though!
@@Near456 The Butcher Baker is this guy Hansen who is the main character of this episode.
Sex work is a risky lifestyle
This is exactly why so many rape victims don’t report it… they know there’s a large chance that nobody will believe them. 😢 This girl did everything she could (and did it well,) to catch this guy, but they believe his friends over a terrified half naked girl running for her life?! It’s disgusting how she was treated - my heart breaks for that girl 🥺
I know so many women who are survivors who were treated like this. It's genuinely disgusting and should be a criminal offense
@@dylancobalt7807 It absolutely should be! It’s bad enough women are raped to begin with, but to not be believed afterwards is inhumane.
wait so let me get this straight. The girl ran out of the woods half naked, with a handcuff, told the police her story in vivid detail with nothing left out. Led them to the hanger where the plane was where she left her shoe, some guy who was working at the airport said the owner looked suspicious, they went to the guys house and everything was exactly as she had described it, but they guys friends said he was with them so they were like, "well, he must be innocent."
Or at least, we need to get a lie-detector test on this girl. So infuriating.
Well they can’t just charge someone based on someone else’s story. Innocent until proven guilty.
My question, nowadays I wonder how many false alibi there must be. I mean, you never know how can a cop truly believe a 'witness' hug ng his/her friend an alibi that they were with them. Disgusting.😳😡
Yeah...this one was really bad
@@VerbalVantage if a fuckin profiler is enough for a raid into his house then her story should have been WAYYY more than enough. it's disgusting tbh and i wouldn't have taken the lie detector test either all those cops deserve the worst
The worst serial killer is the one that's 10 steps ahead us. While you're liking and trusting them they're studying and plotting on you.
All serial killers are equally bad, and scary, but some are indeed smarter.
IMO that's not 10 steps ahead, but I don't go around liking and trusting people. It's about the intent people have. You might be looking for a friend, they are looking to dahmer your ass.
@@rahulmenon4357 You’d be surprised how charismatic those types of people can be. Serial Killers have to be extremely cunning so they don’t get caught. And that cunning allows them to manipulate people with ease
Fuck up😓
Yes, the Democrat party, just ask Seth Rich...
Me and my friends watched this video a few years ago, probably around the time it came out at a sleepover. We were traumatized and had achieved exactly what we clicked on it for. Great horror story.
Been following you for a month now. You are a great story teller. And thank you for your service
I always heard it’s better to die trying to escape then to be taken to a second location, where a much worse fate usually awaits you - and this story confirms why
Definitely the case! Even if she was handcuffed with gun raised at her, she should try and take the chance while in the car to try and cause a head on collision, this is only way to get attention and if someone is pointing a gun at you, then it's only soon or later that they kill you. So may as well try cause a visible accident before being taken to perpetuators place.
Yes.. it's the thing called don't make a deal with the devil - well because he's a liar and will betray you.
Yeah. I'd rather die on my own terms than theirs. Even if there is no "worse fate", I'd force them to kill me just so they don't get the satisfaction of doing it how they want.
This is true. The bad guy wants to move you for a reason. They don’t totally control the place where they nab you, but they DO totally control the place they want to bring you. Your situation will only get worse in a second location. Fight like hell, run, scream but don’t go willingly.
Yea that’s what I was thinking I’d rather die escaping, than just waiting for him to take me wherever he’s taking me to kill me
I’m not surprised that Cindy refused the lie detector test. To be a victim of such a horrific crime and then to hear that the cops don’t believe you would probably be enough to break you.
@Azzir And you didn't understand the comment. When police asked her to do the test, it meant that they didn't believe her. So, they didn't believe her -> asked for a polygraph test -> she said "no". It doesn't matter what MrBallen said. For police to ask someone to do a polygraph test, they have to have suspicion that the person is not telling the truth. The fact that she refused the test only reassured them in their own suspicion. They didn't think that there could have been another reason to refuse the test, other than lying.
In any case, I’m pretty surprised that given all of the information that the victim was able to provide that matched the killer, they dropped him as a suspect immediately just because his friend vouched for him over the phone. Not only that, but they then started doubting the victim. You know, the woman who was found running out of the forest, naked and terrified, wearing handcuffs.
At the very least they should have asked the guy if he would go down to the station to answer some questions.
@@luigicadorna8644 Wasn't it pants off and no shoes or socks?
@@luigicadorna8644 you must have missed the information given.
2 friends gave alibis that lined up. I doubt when asking, the cops would be fully transparent and ask "were you with __ at this time last night?" And it'd be more like "what were you doing around (this time) last night?"
Ultimately I don't know how it was asked, so it's all speculation. But if it is the latter, for 2 separate people to give matching alibis would be pretty convincing.
At the end of the day, she should've just taken the polygraph test. It would've erased any doubt and brought the killer to justice much faster. Cops ask for polygraph tests to determine what is truth and what isn't.
@@mentalpopcorn2304
Well the poly graphs have been proven to be ineffective. Lots of false positives and false negatives
Not as reliable as once thought
Just a tid bit
Wow… 2 years I’ve been watching mr Ballen… I’ve watched all his vids, and now shorts, and he never ceases to teach me something more about the strange occurrences that happen in this world.
How did he get through his like button shenanigans without a giggle! Mr. Ballen is awesome! One of my favorite channels on this platform. Mr. Ballen I hope you see this. I'm a hospice patient and live in a locked down nursing facility. Ever since COVID hit we've been locked down. You've helped keep my mind sharp, kept me entertained while imparting knowledge and also the occasion giggle. Thank you sir. I'd also like to thank you for your service. I wish you a long, successful and enriched life. Thanx again 👍
My goal in life is to never end up in one of MrBallen’s stories.
%1 of his stories are actual good
OMG people I meant good as in a positive outcome man a lot of you are Aholes I love his stories get a life jerks man stop being so toxic
@@markusmitchell8585 Yes, but those aren’t very good odds.
Mr Ballen himself was in one of his videos.
🤣🤣🤣
Strive for bigger goals! Though I do feel you 😉 I don't want to end up as a story, but if I had to.,..I want Mr. Ballen to tell my tale in story format!
I love how a couple guy saying, “yeah he was with us” is enough to discount the girl, and security guards story and license plates and shit
I thought the same. Let's discount all this other overwhelming evidence on the simple "yeah, he was with us". Reminds me somewhat of the Paul Bernardo serial killer investigation...such ineptitude.
world class police work right there.
Well, a girl runs without pants in a highway and calls the police for shits and giggles every day, what can police do - believe all of them? *sarcasm*
They did believe her, but you need to build enough evidence to arrest someone. Had she cooperated she likely could have saved some lives.
@@portal740 I think it's moreso the justice system's fault. I'm no expert on this stuff, but there must have been something that legally stopped them from being able to search the house or arrest the dude. Honestly the cops probably would have wanted to take that guy in then and there, but who knows.
Part of this torture that seems to get overlooked is that fact this was in Alaska and these women had to run with no clothes on for hours or days. So not only are they handcuffed and blindfolded but they are freezing. That makes it even worse.
Wow that profiler was a pro. How do they do that, though? Also, glad Cindy made it out
If this girl knew almost every detail before the police went there and the police didn’t believe her , that is just messed up.
Well probably Bc she didn’t want to take the lie test thing and plus she was sex worker mostly the time they lie to police and thing I wouldn’t believe her ever Bc of her job so can’t blame them plus there was no evidence against him
She didn't take the lie detector and Robert had an alibi proving he wasn't with her
It's because he had a strong fabricated alibi, that consisted of 2 false witnesses
my god they DID believe her, they literally checked our her story but he had a (fake) alibi
Lawfully, all evidence can point to someone having done something, but without proof, that person is innocent. Messed up, I know.
refusing to take a lie detector test isn't a sign of guilt or trying to hide something. its pretty common knowledge that those things are notoriously unreliable so lots of people refuse to take them out of fear that they might have a false positive and wrongly incriminate them.
I was thinking the same thing during the video.
Right? Like imagine if she had taken the lie detector test and it tested her as a liar, then police would have completely gone the other direction with her case, and even in finding the new evidence they may have tried to search for another suspect cause "Well Cindy said it was this guy, but our lie detector said she was lying, so it must not be him"
Lie detectors are a pseudo science.
NoPE
@@ashgamingrobloxminecraft4237 uhh yes
I’m hooked on this channel right now, and it’s ironic how great of naps I’ve taken with the strange dark and mysterious playing in the background.
They made a movie out of this. So sad that this happened but the movie makes you feel how they felt. Them poor girls. Very well done Mr. Ballen on telling this story. Your very good at telling great stories
i think its insulting to ask Cindy to do a polygraph test after all she went through and all the details she provided to them. Poor Cindy.
How??? He had two alibis and his apartment was clean. It was her word against 3. They can’t just arrest a guy because someone said he did something. Stop thinking with emotions.
@@ssjalpha6593 well if they actually would've dug deep into the so called alibis like sooooo many cops have done before which is pretty common sense then they would've figured it out. Use your head!
@@ssjalpha6593 well Cindy was just 17 and went through hell right before that. She was definitely thinking with her emotions.. she probably was spooked as the cops didn't trust her and the polygraph is not 100% accurate all the time. She probably feared she would end up loosing and was frustrated about the whole ordeal..🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
@@jayandny. but if 2 people say the same thing it’s obviously gonna sound believable as most people would think and they couldn’t at first find anything to prove he did it
Exactly! This is outright discrimination because she was an exotic dancer.
Only 17? That's so sad. And some of them were just girls, still teenagers. I hope Cindy was able to get the help and support she needed after that.
Omg me too💔
Yes actually she did. I saw a show on this and it said she went back to the streets but not for hooking. She now helps other hookers get off the streets
@@jennharrison5579 That's amazing!
@@jennharrison5579 Do you remember the name of it? I would love to watch it.
@@kailamaree4402 it was a 20/20 episode but I can't remember the name of the episode.
Thank you Mr Ballen!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours
I've been watching for a while and just wanted to say thank you.. You do a great job tell there story's.... Thank you.
Does anyone else completely forget that he hides something because they are completely captivated by his voice and the story?!? I know it’s not just me!!
If im not looking at his face i feel like i can't concentrate on the story 😅
I’ve never looked for the avatar. I’m always too engrossed in the story. So, it’s not just you Kimberly 😉
I usually can’t find them even after I have read where in the video it is. I’m hopeless. Maybe I’m just concentrating on the story. I don’t know.
@@WyattRyeSway
Same here, you’re not alone either.
Yeah, I use this like a podcast because his storytelling is so good that his voice alone is enough to visualize the whole thing. Even when I've watched because of there being a picture or video with the story, though, I'm too distracted by the story to find the secret.
The fact those guys corroborated his stories to give him an alibi… ridiculous. I hope they feel guilty that they potentially helped him get away with murder for much longer than necessary.
I hope they got charged
who the hell decides that that's an alibi anyway, there was no proof what so every!!!
Lazy police work
@@cookiesnmilk9200 They were threatened with perjury but I believe the charge was dropped in exchange for them testifying against him. Which I agree, really sucks. You shouldn't get away with lying to the police during an investigation.
@@teradavis7811 That's the definition of alibi. In this country proof is required for guilt. We don't require people to prove they're innocent.
It would have been nice if the cops had leaned on them to check for inconsistencies. But then again, maybe they planned to once they had a lie detector report to back up Cindy's story.
I love your usage of your words to represent the content. You saved me a lot of time.
And your whole gestures in the video when i watch c:
The woods background is funny from my perspective as a new viewer of your channel and zero knowledge of story telling in general ":).
In my early 20's I had a guy say he was a professional photographer and wanted me to meet him to take my picture. Good thing I was suspicious and thought he was a creep. It may not have ended up this bad but it's never worth the risk.
Same thing happened to me in my 20s, in WA. I had stopped for directions, and as I got back in my car a man in his 40's, roundish puffy face, thinning blonde hair, approached and said he was a photographer. He wanted me to go with him. I declined, said I'd take his card. He didn't have one, and tried to convince me several more times, that I also declined, until he walked away. I drove off, and kept looking to see if I was followed. Idk what kind of creeper he was, but no doubt he was lying.
@@Arakia that is so scary!
@@Arakia I hope other girls didn't fall for his lies...
Everyone's a gangsta until the strange dark and mysterious is delivered in story format
Hagahah
this needs more likes
Out Generation is the best 😎😎😎
Hilarious
@@spaghettibong3606 no because its an old joke
I can't imagine what that poor woman had to go through. No one should ever have to endure torture like that. Good on that security guard for following his gut feeling.
Those*
Right, those women
and the cops still gave the killer the benefit of the doubt even with so many red flags smh
Fair enough, all of those women.
Well... new fear unlocked 🥺 I hope Cindy has the most wonderful life, and I am heartbroken for all those women and how terrified and helpless they felt.
This story was bone chilling, to say the least. And this is my first time hearing about this. He's definitely one of the worse serial killer.
I was a teenager, living in Anchorage, at the time of this serial killer. I have been to Hansen’s Bakery. My good friend, KT, WORKED AT HANSEN’S BAKERY! She used to bring us donuts and apple turnovers every week! Thank GOD, my friend wasn’t an exotic dancer.
That is crazy and so good to hear nothing happened must be scary just thinking being put into that situation 😱
LOL send this video to her
I was an FBI agent who was a part of search warrant,
I can't tell if that's just classic America or a horrific case
@@wallnut5910 definitely some shit that goes on more often then you would think I’m America I’m sad to say. There are many evil people in the world and somehow a lot of them seem to be in America or that’s al least where they get the most publicity
Mr. Ballen is the only man with a backwards hat I can trust
What about mark rober?
Hahaha. So true. Also the only guy I trust that wears so many plaid shirts.
I second that!
Not only a backwards hat but a hillbilly mustache also
Ash ketchum?
The fact that serial killers with confessions don’t get the death penalty is beyond me.
Alaska doesn't have the death penalty.
The moral of the story is: never ever comply with anyone who asks you to lie to the police and be an alibi for them! You will not only protect yourself but could possibly save a current victim & future victims of serial killers.
If someone said they needed an alibi, I’d lie and say I would be one but when the time would come for me to make good on my promise, well, a promise and a law aren’t the same thing, I can make a promise, but unlike a law, I don’t need to hold true to it
As I recall he told them he was with prostitutes and thats why he needed the alabi. Alaska in the '80s was still wild and overwhelmingly male. Whats weird is how many serial killers were operating in the Pacific NW at the same time. So many ultra young prostitutes then too.
Moral of the story is actually to be more cautious with strangers. But we only learned that in 1st grade.
Absolutely! He could’ve saved lives if he didn’t lie for him.
I hope the alibis got hefty fines or jail sentences for lying to police. Its insane anyone would do that!
The idea of him hunting those poor women is horrifying. I can't imagine how terrified they must have felt, slowly realising that there was no escape and they were going to die, even though they'd tried so hard to get away.
WDYM THAT SOUND SO COOL, jkjk
@@gamechan7889 😐
@@gamechan7889 sounds hawt af
@@yellowpeepee6012 what XD XD
Terrible 😞
Your story telling is both interesting and captivating🎉 always looking forward to them 💥🔥🔥
I was held hostage for 8 months as a teen, but I am so thankful he wasn't as sick as a lot of these guys are.
One thing I’ve learned from watching this channel is keep your eye on the well-groomed dude who owns his own business, home, car, and seems like a pillar of the community. 9 times out of 10 he’s the guy with a body count.
In this instance it pays to be a loser.
Morgan Woodard the same thing black people hate cops do to them?
@@norcalbowhunter3264 they probably didn’t mean it’s literally 9 out of 10 people, but that’s just how it feels like 😅
👍🏼
Creeps, abusers, users, and general psychopaths hide in society. They know how to blend in. Always trust what people do and say. If they seem off, it's probably because they are.
Just knowing those men lied to save Robert without knowing what he did. Ultimately making the police completely distrust a survivor is maddeningly frustrating.
I feel like they know and do it too
@@vruh999yeah, a psycho like Robert probably offered them chances to assualt the women in his basement which is why they covered for him
Hunters club. Wouldn't surprise me if they took turns hunting
I'm with the other people here who have said they probably knew what he did and may have taken part in either the rapes and/or the murders. They should have been arrested and charged for providing false alibis.
It's why he straight up forgot where some of the victims were buried - they weren't his kills
You know Mr. Ballen made it when you get a Mr. Ballen ad before a Mr. Ballen Video. 😌👏🏻 well done sir
My Brother in Arms always epic stories and you tell them so well. Thank you.
Wait...this girl gave them detailed accounts of the hanger, the plane, the house and the guy that ALL checked out yet when this man’s FRIENDS gave him an alibi they figured it must be the girl that is mistaken somehow? Make that make sense.
I'm still trying to understand yet it still isn't adding up to me either, smh 🤦🏽♀️
@@raven6949 I mean, she refused the lie detector test and ran away, the guy had alibi so was innocent until proven guilty. Anyways from the police’s pov, the girl could’ve been on drugs or something too
@@raven6949 no. She must have had bruises from being hung on a chain & assaulted? They didn't even do a rape kit....
Right!! WTH!! Wonder how they feel now? Hopefully stepped up their game., but the loss of life for them to learn a lesson.. blood on their hands, hope they slept well
It’s called sexism, the police are more likely to believe the male than the female
Never realised how much I like the strange, dark and mysterious in story format
I knew that when I was seven it's been four years of liking the strange
Once you go strange, dark and mysterious you never go back!
with distracting hand motions
3, 4 even 5 times a week
I usually don’t cuz I’m a wimp with scary/horror stories but there is something so good about the way he tells all. These stories, I’m addicted.
I’m on a roll catching up! Been binge watching your vids for 3 straight days!
Omg you you have the knack of building suspense!
I totally understand why Cindy took off; when the police start looking at YOU as the trouble maker, it’s only a matter of time before you’re locked up, instead of the the actual perpetrator.
That's especially true for sex workers. It's even worse that in most places a trafficking victim will do more time for the forced prostitution than the people who sold them.
@@TrineDaely Yes!! The laws need to change to PROTECT those workers so they’re not afraid to seek help.
Not to mention Cindy probably knew that her results would be impacted by her having recently been horribly assaulted and being forced to flee for her life. She was so scared the whole time that the polygraph would have surely implied she was lying. Even if they wanted to polygraph Robert too, if most people pit the words of a hysteric woman, a prostitute no less, against the words of a clean white man that kept his cool under pressure and freely let police investigate him... Tbh, I'd get the hell out too.
@@mickefy682 The Police didn't distrust her; they needed more than a single testimony in order to get a search warrant, they needed more evidence on Robert.
There was also another possibility that could not be ruled out in their minds as they investigated... she could be an angry ex girlfriend, that's why she knew all of those specific details.
They of course believed her story, but they needed sonething to compel a judge to find just cause to issue a search warrant on a person's property.
In this case... it was the results of the lie detector.
That would prompt a judge to issue a search warrant, therefore allowing them to gather the evidence they needed to convict Robert.
Police can't just charge into someone's property and flip it upside down.
Judges can't just give search warrants out like candy otherwise the State can be sued.
This is going to sound like victim blaming... but Cindy should have taken the lie detector.
@@JamesMerlaut Lie detector tests aren't viable bases for legal documents like warrants. The judge could have signed off the warrant without any further evidence if the officers stated reasonable suspicion; if there wasn't enough evidence to support that suspicion before the LDT, the LDT wasn't going to make any difference.
I keep thinking that ghosts, demons, crocs , sharks all these deadly stuff are the most scary stuff, however I forgot that humans really are the most terrifying
Humans are apex predators
Humans? Men?
You do have a point some people are just f****** the head
These humans are demons
My lady told me her mama said that all the time
Love your stories Mr Ballen. 👍🧡
That's crazy how everything she said about his house, him and even the plane added up but they still questioned her
Guess they need more to go on before they waste the time demanding a search warrant.
Hear in some places its almost impossible to get without some absolute solid proof.
They didn't see these women as people.
I'm inclined to agree with Kimberly. Prostitutes, strippers, homeless people, etc. aren't people. They should be! But to many, they have to prove they're human enough to be worth the effort.
@@Heather-xm9ul
If you are poor or if you dont match what a woman is supposed to be then you arent worthy of life.
Men too, if homeless men were being killed, it might be a curiosity why but not a demand to know. Dragging their feet to solve murders of people that no one really cares about...monstrous.
@@KimberlyBishh agreed. You live exactly as they expect in the system, with the ability to offer incentives, or you will NEVER receive their best efforts.
How could they not trust her, she literally described his house and plane etc.
She also refused a lie detector test and found no evidence about him being a serial killer
@@viciousbite8161 It's still weird to totally drop the case and see him as innocent, why would she run naked out of nowhere and describe everything in detail....
@@viciousbite8161 i can understand why she didn’t want to take the lie detector test, and having the police ask her to take the test showed they were having doubts, and honestly being traumatized like that and still being doubted i wouldn’t take the test either considering the lie detector isnt really accurate
@@arnljot9030 Bro she refused to take lie detector test, why would police believe her. Police did the right thing they checked on his house and found no evidence. what more could police have done??
@@mymelody4098 I think police did whatever they could! In underdeveloped countries Police wouldn't even take it seriously.
This guy is so evil. Cindy was very brave. She probably didn't want to take the test because she didn't trust the police to protect her and it would take a few more hours. Also she couldn't believe they needed more from her after all she'd told them. This story was one of the toughest to listen to.
Born and raised in Anchorage, Alaska for 11 years its crazy to know this happened nearby me also talking about the fact that victims were going missing in the city I'm born from
Anyone else find Mrballen and now watches every video that comes out as soon as you can?
Yes i do found him a couple days ago and have been binge watching his videos since
Cindy is the real hero of this story. I hope she's ok. What a powerful girl.
Thank you,someone actually talking about the case for once
She surely was mentally hurt after seeing that police didn't believe her after all the torture she experienced. She truly lost the trust in humanity
@@gobo6175 was going to say the same thing. If you didn’t know or see my comment, Robert Hansen owned a popular bakery that a lot of people suspected they ate his victims. I was born and raised in anchorage Alaska and already knew about this.
@@Misssydney oh wow! That’s horrible! I remember reading a book along the same story line many years ago but never realized it was a true story. Those poor women 😞
@@Misssydney wow
Why is it an alibi for friends to say someone was with them the night before? That’s insane. These cops should do jail time for their negligence and idiocy
him letting them go and run around the woods like prey and then hunting them is so horrific.
Dang, Cindy's ability to immediately read that her life was in danger and see past the chains and being held captive literally saved her life. It kept her fighting to get away!
Yeah I don’t know how she figured that one out. Not sure if it was the fact she was abducted and chained in his basement or if maybe he said something that just didn’t sit right.
You kidding me?
@@Jp-mn1rq Cindy could be an avid crime novels reader or crime tv series fan or what not..
Cindy is extremely smart, if only the police weren’t so ignorant.. they would’ve discovered this case easy. Cindy helped, gave them enough evidence.. and they still didn’t bother just because his friends said he was there… should’ve been more suspicious when even the guy said himself they would say yes he was there with them.
@@tsuki-3699 IDK, smart people usually don't whore themselves out at age 17
@@Jp-mn1rq well he her a lot about him. Why would someone who raped you tell you about them and let you see their face if they intended on Letting you go
Everyone gangster untill the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format pulls up.
this was a good comment ngl
Why does everyone comment this lolol
Why do people like these kinds of comments
@@Fritz828 because its funny and its an established joke format
It’s the ballen fan thing he kills these stories
My dad said he went to school with you at some point and I thought you would only have about a few thousand subscribers? But wow you have a lot! Also your stories are very interesting.
It isn´t the fisrt video I ever watch of Mr. Ballen, but somehow is one of the videos I remember the most of him and it gave me material to work for a homework I was stuck on hahaha. I thank that day that I stumbled across that video on facebook that let me to this channel therfore to this video. I wasn´t the first and pretty sure I won´t be the last person to enjoy and be entertained with his videos. Luv u Mr. Ballen :3
When he gave the officers permission to look around why didn’t they check the basement
My guess is that they did but he maybe hid the chain?
Or there could've been like no blood what are they gonna do with no evidence other than a ceiling accessory
police just dosent care most of the time tbh, they probably did the bare minimum and left
@@eatmyshorts8406 you wasn’t there don’t really know if they check everything or not he probably hid thing serial killer are pretty good with that
They were probably his hunting buddies. "Nope nothing to see here." The other maps sitting in there dresser drawers.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Didn’t make any sense why they didn’t! Especially when that woman had said she was in his basement.
It's scary to imagine how many killers out there currently blend in with the people around them and have zero suspicion against them.
And how many active serial killers there are at any given time yet never get found out until it's too late, if at all!
Yup and with how big the U.S is compared to other countries the ratio of potential killers is even bigger.
And why there are SOOO many in USA!
@@olderloverxx Because they can get away with it easier. It's not an anomaly in the human mind, it's not abnormal. The only thing keeping most people in line is their own self interest and values.
I just had to google the homicide rates for the uk 😟 I hadn’t given it much thought before now
I saw the movie they made about this, Frozen Ground with John Cusack, that description by the survivor, Cindy, was depicted very closely in the movie, when watching it it creeped me out so much, the whole thing in his house was so eerie, terrifying and depressing
I love this channel man dont let anyone tell you different
Craziest part is lie detectors aren’t admissible as evidence in court, and refusing to take them is the recommended move any attorney will suggest
This is because if you lie in one of the test questions or clench your butt you can beat the detector so its not able to be used
A defense attorney will tell you no to. She wasn’t a suspect, her “attorney” was the state. Like you said it isn’t admissible and Police departments haven’t used polygraphs for evidence in decades. More than likely they were using it to see how she would react to taking one. So her refusing and leaving town didn’t help.
@@shane9515 Penn & Teller did an episode of _Bullshit!_ about that. Apparently beating a polygraph is really easy, anyone can do it if they understand how it works.
US law enforcement put way too much stock in polygraphs. This is a good example of someone who refused to take one even though she was almost certainly telling the truth. It shouldn't be viewed as suspicious but it basically is.
I didn't know that they weren't admissible. Why are they so often suggested, then?
My heart really goes out to these women in this video. It doesn’t matter that they were prostitutes or dancers or whatever. They were women. Their lives matter. And hopefully somehow Cindy will see that because of her testimony, many lives were saved and families got closure.
If it doesn't matter, why do you mention it? Same as they gender, and the commentary that their lives matter... of course they matter, same as any human life...and your barely represed prejudices rear their ugly heads everywhere, champ... one can just hope someday you "Wokers" realize how much damage you do with this kind of speech.
You do know people are idiot's yes? This person was just clarifying that it doesn't matter what your gender is and what you do for a living. Have you ever been on other apps besides youtube? Do you know how quick people are to judge someone with one small piece of information?
@@TheChzoronzon I mentioned it for several reasons. The first is that it stated here that the police and others tend to not even make an effort to find missing prostitutes, transgender, or simply person's of a different social group. Secondly, man y rapists and murderers pick these people because they know those cases don't get the same attention as other classes get. Many times no one even knows that they are missing. Just like the guy with the pig farm. He killed over 100 women in what others consider to be a low class person. He knew it would hardly be looked into. I've also heard police admit that they r less likely to believe women who are in what they call "a lower class of people". I have a daughter who is trans. And the treatment she has gotten just in her job alone is just ridiculous. I see the tears every night. I see the hurt and pain. People need to treat every e equally regardless. I know the hurt and pain of being abused by my birth parents, and in foster care and as an adult in an abusive marriage. And I know the pain of these things. I know how it aches. I've never been in this group of people, but I can only imagine what it's liken to be assaulted and have no one listen to them. To be accused of lying. To be told it didn't matter cuz they asked for it. Or some say oh they r on drugs so they deserve what they got. No one deserves to be violated...(I'll make the exception for child molesters, rapists, murderers.....Even animal abusers. But I also believe in our justice system and I believe in God and heaven and hell. Its not my place to be the judge, jury and executioner.
So have a little compassion and pull your head out of your back side. Be a human being.
@@Sd_Tk thanks for ur comment. Read the one I just answered. People never cease to amaze me.
@@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289 Nice textwall example of all the emotional cliches and assumptions at the core of the XXI century "Wokeness"
Male beggars suffer from exactly the same disdain from the authorities, and male drug addicts, and male low level prostitutes... it's called "classism" and has little to do with biological sex. But of course you have to insert gender in everything, it's the norm...
Then you say that rape is the worst thing ever... but ok for animal abusers (I bet you include in that category those evil pharmacologists that torture poor kitties in their labs for no reason at all... )
And then you end by impliying that if I don't agree with you, I'm not even human! haha classic!
Thanks for the pristine example of your twisted mental patterns, it's textbook level, to my "SWJ sickness" folder.
This guy is the basis for the serial killer in the final season of Dexter. It's crazy to watch the show and to know that this person actually (more or less) existed.
"rock solid alibi" and "testimony of a friend" are incongruous concepts.
so... you’re telling me... that the woman who escaped this psycho lived her life knowing that this lunatic , who tried to kill her, is still on the streets....
No if you watched the video the guy died in prison lol
Yeah that’s crazy to me too. Because of her not providing the lie detector test another woman died. Sad!
@@tradingtactics7541 lie detector tests are known to be very faulty and aren't allowed as evidence in a court of law. She gave them enough evidence and she shouldn't have to take a lie detector test.
@@alesbianhotmess he doesn't say the police took a rape kit or photo her bruises from being chained up. after police fail to do job more women were hunted.
@@mirihugs if you’re innocent you have no reason to say no to a lie detector. Anyone knows that.
His “alibi” witnesses should be prosecuted for accessory to murder.
They didint know he killed someone. He probably told them them some innocent bs.
@@Hug0Pro yeah but ppl go to jail for accidents they didn't knew they where committing this shouldn't had been the exeption😞
@@Hug0Pro they still lied. it dosent matter if they knew or not, as far as i know lying to the police is a crime
@@eatmyshorts8406 sure. It’s a crime, but not accessory to murder.
@@eatmyshorts8406 lying to the police is a crime? HAHAHAHA the police are lying all the time
AHHHHHH, okay.... rewatched it. 😜😘🥰 PS Love you Mr.Ballen... I'll pay attention next time ☺️🥰
Mr Ballen you always make the most random intros. I don’t hate them. Keep the great work up!
As someone who studied psychology it makes me so angry that the justice system would care so much about lie detector tests.
Well judging by the story at that time after they had just finished talking to the serial killer and looked around his house everything would match the description cindy would give but like he said their was no evidence of an abuse in the house and the killer said he was with his friends the night before so they go to the friends interview them one by one and sadly their stories would consult with eachother, even though most of the police forces knew or suspected he was the killer they could not make an arrest without evidence, cindy may have been the evidence but the police cant trust her because the house didn't show any signs of her being abused their, and so they had to either run with what the serial killer had said or suspect that cindy is lying (which at that time seeed like the only answer even though they had reason to suspect this man was the serial killer they were looking for.)
What does that have to do with anything? They had an alibi, they did nothing wrong. Nobody cares what you study
So, tell me. The suspect has not one, but two people supporting his alibi. There is no physical evidence at the property. The victim is describing the house, car, and plane in detail (obviously she has been there). She could have been an ex-girlfriend or he could have been a John and she was trying to frame him. What did you expect the police to do? Obviously it didn't turn out that way, but the police can't just arrest people with no evidence at all.
@@pjpelefoti80 He literally had an entire day to make up a fake alibi. Do you know how easy it is to convince two friend to lie for you?
Yeah they're dumb lol