Why to Not Overuse Straight Bar Squats (Shoulder, Elbow & Knee Pain)
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Matt talks about the benefits and drawbacks of straight bar squatting. In this video Matt also provides tips on how to prevent shoulder, elbow & knee pain when squatting with a straight bar.
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Very true and much needed support!!
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Holy crap!! Don't give Matt any ideas!
As someone who doesn't have any squats in my current program, I fully endorse this video.
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Your program sucks
This is the truth for sure! I’ve spent too many years beating myself up when I should have been training smart. Now I’m trying to fix my mistakes.
💪💪💪. Yup I was lucky not to learn the hard way
Just bought a cambered bar and integrated it into training about 3 weeks ago. It's made a big difference as to my fatigue levels, plus I think I'm getting stronger because of it.
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This guy is absolutely right, and I’ve been training for 55 years.
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Damn, Matt is reading my mind...as i'm getting stronger in bench, it takes forever now with shoulder mobility warmups for My Lo Bar Squat sessions. After Deadlifts this past Monday, next was good mornings...without the 15 min. shoulder stretches, I couldnt do it. I GAVE UP and went to BB RDL's 😊 Front squats & belt squats have been my Saviors. Band shoulder rotations, pole shoulder stretches and thoracic Rolling has worked, but needs to be done a lil bit each day. Great video !
That bench squat combo is a tough one at 870 raw squat and 611 raw bench I had to get very creative
Its the low bar style that is rough on the shoulders,high bar doesnt bother my shoulders
@@justbreathe8835 same
My hip and knee pain subsided when I stopped standing so wide and started going below parallel
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Matt's advice is pure gold
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Solid advice!! Switching over to SSB has allowed my shoulder and elbow aches to completely subside.
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Really enjoy the exercise variation/rotation videos! Learning a lot, thanks.
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Hey, going thru your old videos im going to make a comment ive made on one of your previous videos, you use very advanced thought processes in developing your techniques, especially the wenning warmup. It has translated very well into my own routine. Thank you for the content. Support from the midwest.
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always top quality knowledge bombs, keep up the good work man
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Pure truth! Recently been rotating back squats with front squats for many of these reasons!
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Matt is really the best technical explainer out there and is so easy to understand!
We try!!!
I try and be good with low, high bar, front, SSB, belt squat, free squat, with a pause to a box, etc. Be strong in all environments !
Same but I dont have enough weight for belt squats, only got 4x 45lbs and that is by no means challenging on the belt squat :(
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@@gravitytraining6516 Change the mode. Add a tempo, pause at bottom, use accommodating resistance to alter the strength curve to make it harder without adding more weight. Good luck!
Thanks Matt for all the help
Trying my best brother
Matt´s tips has helped me a lot. Keep going!
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Always great content!
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I know its still with a straight bar, but Front squats are a great variation to throw in
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Love this never ending great content on past videos
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Oddly enough was just thinking man I need to change up my Squat regiment after this recent deload week ..... FRONT SQUATS it is tomm !! Always right on time and the best TRAINING CONTENT PERIOD from TEAM WENNING 💪🇺🇸
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Great video. I became straight bar squat obsessed after doing beginner linear progression programs and struggled to get out of intermediate strength levels because consistent straight bar was beating me up and eating into my other lifts. I blamed bench for my shoulder and elbow fatigue and deadlift for the general psychological fatigue because I'd been sold the idea straight bar squat is king. As stupid as it sounds the safety bar made such a difference for me, I swapped because of the upper body issues I assume upperbody lifting was causing and finally managed to start making regular progress again. Dont hold any lift too precious and dont be too dogmatic or youll end up stalled with mediocre lifts like me.
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Whenever I do straight bar back squats going ATG, my hip joints hurt like crazy. When I change my form slightly and lean a bit more forward putting the tension more so on my knees as opposed to hips I don’t feel any pain. I’ve never heard of anyone else experiencing this
@Email Email Bro I tried that today and I think you’re right, just using it for a few mins just now I realized how weak they are plus just getting a stretch with them is making my squats less painful. Thanks for the advice!
Great video, I can see massive progress with rotating different squat techniques
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I have very long femur bones which made the (high bar) back squat very hard for me.
I've been doing front squats (straight bar) and I love them!
I rotate my foot position (narrow, wider) and some days I do pin squat (front squat), pasued front squat, or box front squats.
Nice video Matt!
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Awesome stuff Matt as always brother! SSB squats saved my shoulders for sure! 👊🏼💯
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Free game. Thanks homie😎✌
Great stuff Matt
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Great video, thanks
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Great information, rotation is key to staying in the game for life
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Thank you very much for the great advice !!!
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Brother Wenning speaks truth.
I like the part about task/skill transfer from squat variations to other sports.
Part of the value of squat variations such as the front squat or Zercher for athletes is the different ways they challenge core stability.
I also like pistol squats. Most non-power lifting sports are asymmetric, yet some athletes train symmetric movements almost exclusively.
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Another great video.
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Thanks Matt, this was super helpful
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Great tips.
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I bought a Rogue SSB this past summer for when my shoulders / elbows / wrists are feeling a little fussy. I gotta say it's been a life changer.
Yup!! Support Kabuki w those bars
Absolutely agree Matt
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This needed 2 be said.
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squeezing the upper back in straight bar SQ helps a lot with shoulder, wrist pain (at least in the short run)
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Great video
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Thanks Matt
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I can squat mid 400's for reps and actually have never used a straight bar to squat lol. All ssb and camber bar squatting. I'll be 44 this year. I've been training since I was 30 or 31. Hope I can stay in the game for a long time
Smart dude!!
@@WenningStrength Thanks doesn't mean I know everything. One day some time soon we may be in contact about some online coaching. Thanks for the content. Always smart to work with people that know their 💩
The elbow pain is real!
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I don’t have access to a whole bunch of variations just bought a manta ray to modify the straight bar a bit. I’m 6’4 and that super high bar position should help my lifts too
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What about if you only squat straight bar once per week? I do Bulgarian split squats the other day. (Do to strength imbalance between legs) I don't like safety bar. But Marrs bar seems good but i didn't hear it mentioned. Are those a good choice?
So what do you mean by the advice you give to “rotate bars” - as in what else other than straight bar should we use?
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We just got one of those transformer 2.0 bars, what do you think of those which you can set to different positions but have your hands out in front
Haven’t used one
So basically what we're learning here is, don't be a serious competitive powerlifter if you want to be healthy haha
You can do both - just have to be smart. Which isn’t most competitive powerlifters lol!!!
@@WenningStrength I know lol, just being funny bud
when you say "straightbar squat" do you mean both variations highbar and lowbar?
ive noticed that squatting highbar in the offseason has greatly improved my elbow health compared to the low bar that always destroys me
(i would squat with speciality bars but gyms are still closed)
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Moving to conjugate style training, my shoulders don’t hurt and my competition lifts have gone up without doing them.
Yup!!! Been try to tell ppl this for years
What do we do if the gym we go to has only straight bars?
Now do this video for bench press
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Safety bar squats are humbling but very worthwile
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I prefer the Buffalo bar for back squats and use the ssb bar for assistance work!
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I'm curious if these issues are specific to the low bar squat. Are these wear patterns a cost for the higher numbers associated with low bar position?
I don't feel any of these issues with high bar squatting except the typical knee pain occasionally.
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The more you develope back muscles the more difficult it is to Bench press and squat
Ahh cool!! Thanks for the tip - may I ask what your bench and squat are?
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I bought a Marrs bar best money I ever spent
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Obviously Matt knows what he is talking about, It makes me think about the Quadfather, Tom Platz, he bent a bar to make a cambered bar to relieve shoulder and wrist pain.
I squat highbar ATG and have no issues since I can grip narrow, from what I see in this video, the lifters have shit shoulder mobility and squat lowbar, which puts more strain on the shoulder.
Obviously for powerlifting to parallel with lowbar will move more weight, but most of us train for health and fun, hurting yourself isnt fun.
Way off. Bench 600 let’s see your shoulder mobility 😂😂. Second of all squat 25 years then comment 💪💪
And Platz never benched 600
Time to switch to the SSB bar.
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Dude you flash your military service so quick ,I had no clue !
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“It’s going to hurt you!!” Just more nocebo.
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So why do "you need to squat with a straight bar" if you are not a competitive powerlifter? When I got a safety bar, I never looked back. I'm just don't want weak legs and train in my garage.
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What if your gym only has a straight bar? I’m in HS and a straight bar Is what I only have
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How about a Duffalo bar?
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Lol I straight bar squat every week and have shoulder n elbow pain. This is making me think
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Low bar squats kill my shoulders. I’ve switched to front squats now
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The SSB would also benefit you! You can move more weight because you aren't limited by the front rack position, all while still being shoulder-friendly
Matt, is this not just an issue of your shoulder mobility?
This is what I'm curious about as well.
@@MrGlostuber I'm just saying if you find it that difficult to get inside a 7 ft bar, mobility has to be a problem
Bench 600 and you will find that mobility will become an issue
Good luck
@@WenningStrength so thats a yes then? Lol no need to be an ass aboit it
The squat kills my shoulders
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Im getting ready for a comp and the new gym I go to doesn't have the specialty bars I use to have so I straight bar squat all the time and my shoulder and knee is always inflamed and tender
Just do leg press and good mornings and squat like every other week, the strength will still be there
Ed Cohen has an easy trick. Use wrist wraps or straps around the bar as handles to turn a straight bar into a safety bar. well its a variation of a safety bar
I feel ya!!!