Michael, I always love your positive attitude, and honest disposition. Your content is always entertaining, and educational. Keep up the great work man!
Youthman, that was another great video. I would love just sitting down and talking home theater with you and sharing that passion. The video came out both authentic and honest, and that we will always adds value. Thanks buddy.
Hi Youthman, great video! I too own the Klipsch RF-7 series iii and the matching center channel RC-64 series iii along with the Klipsch surrounds as well. I just wanted to say if your running Klipsch speakers you might want to consider running a Yamaha a pre & pro combination which would work well in your system. The thing about Klipsch and Yamaha and why they match well together is still a mystery to me. On a personal note: I'm using a Yamaha RX-3060 A/V receiver and it sounds amazing though the Klipsch speakers. I hope this helps.
This is a great video for those new into the hobby, and advanced users. A discussion of unique room challenges is extremely useful and valuable. Excellent work!
@@Youthman i love the work you put out, and the Facebook community is also a great place to share and discuss the hobby. I've been really enjoying that too!
@@nonametofame Thank you Dat. The Facebook Community was in preparation for the channel growth. With over 46,000 subscribers, I began to realize that I cannot physically provide tech support and help to everyone. By developing a community of like-minded individuals, together, we can help each other instead of me trying to do all of the work myself. Glad you are enjoying the Facebook Group.
How wide is your 150" screen in feet? Knowing now your only 9' from the screen. And I think it was worth making this video. As few of us can truly build a custom dedicated HT room from the ground up. Your room an exterior room with a sliding door. Was it the "family room"? Do you ever hear the doors vibrate?? What about outside light? Do you hve some foam to put over the doors when you're not expecting people to walk in from the outside?
So much love, research and careful planning. An absolute marvel of a setup. I think you rock MR. Youthman. 🤟🏻 Anybody who loves music and film gotta appreciate this.
YM...thanks for taking us on a deeper dive into your HT. Lots of nuggets. I like the idea of being able to cut the power to your subs and the conduit idea is cool too. The HT journey is a long one and perfection is unobtainable. I think the fun and the challenge is in the chase. In the mean time...enjoy the popcorn and the movies...!
Another nice video and I love the fact that you get into things others don't. My room has limitations too but, like you, I'm not complaining at all and feel extremely blessed to have it. It's also been an amazing journey building it over the years.
I've told this to people all the time, unless you start from scratch with an unlimited budget, you'll always have compromises with something like a home theater. But that's just part of the fun, making your space work for you. You've done a great job over the years making an awesome space my friend
The thing I loved most about this video...HONESTY and sharing the BAD Not sugarcoating the bad stuff... It's these kinda issues that deter most people from attempting to build something for themselves...but if you get to know the challenges, you can be careful going into your own setup (whether simple or outright killer)
You honestly have one of the best home theaters on RUclips. It is not even my style, I prefer a more modern look with dark walls, ceiling stars, and a grey color screen, but I can recognize it is great. What I like about it is how the speakers are hidden, the fact that your screen goes wall to wall (I really hate those setups where the screen is in the middle, and the speakers are visible on the sides, it looks tacky, and makes their screens look small no matter how big they are), I also love your seating, and that wooden cabinet is not my style (I like a modern look more), but it looks luxurious, and that's cool. I also imagine your sound is pretty cool. I would prefer not having windows, or glass doors, but those curtains you have are a good choice because they are plain (I hate the other curtains some people use with flowers and leaves, they look like old lady's) these ones you have are nice.
Really enjoy listening to people talk about their HT... You can pick up some solid ideas and learn some cool tricks. It's also bold to share it here on YT because of haters that are going to hate, no changing that! Thanks YM for another solid presentation!
Thank you Gilbert. Have you seen the latest update at home theater tour? I also have a playlist of all of the home theater tours you might be interested in
Really appreciate you identifying things you wish you could change and that your theater is not perfect. Honestly refreshing. I am currently in the process of building my dedicated theater room and can already identify things that I wish I had done differently or even thought of during the construction. Hindsight right? Great video and makes me like you and your channel even more!!
Youthman..It's great to have honest people. You made me feel so much better about the flaws in my setup. We all assume that the folks on RUclips is problem and worry free.
Please consider creating a video explaining how you built and mounted your screen. I love it!! Obviously, this would be cost prohibitive for many people unless it’s DIY.
Great video. I wanted to go with bigger than my 100 inch screen, but my room is 15 feet. Front row of seats is 6.5 feet away and I just don't think I could push it. I sit in the back row that is 13 feet. Agree with the comment on conduit and wished I had thought of that now that I'm thinking about adding Atmos speakers. Cool thing about mine is it built in a basement room with absolutely no windows.
You can ABSOLUTELY go bigger with your screen. When I was slinging screens for Stewart and SI, I ALWAYS said if the calculator said "X", go to the next logical size up. Go BIG!!
Awesome video! Three words for your heat problem: ductless mini split. We’re adding that to our extension due to a) solid concrete room and b) way cheaper than extending the duct (if it were possible). Check it out and hopefully it’s a viable option for you.
Awesome unbiased, and honest video! ...which is why I keep coming back to your channel. I am blessed with a 24' square room, ceiling is 8' and 10' in places, a 135" screen, JVC PJ, and mostly Klipsch (aging) speakers. L&R are a pair of Klipsch Cornwalls - 40+ years old. LOVE those!
@@Youthman It's pretty good for a "middle of the road" overall system. Recent Denon 4400 9.2 receiver in a 7.2.2 configuration - a 12" Klipsch down firing 300w sub, plus a 15" Velodyne 600w sub on either side of the room firing inward. I'll send you a vid or some pix when I get a chance. Tomorrow, I'm heading south from Canada for 2 weeks of sand & sea! - Cheers!
I built my theater in late 2015. I had a budget that was on the low end compared to many others. I have a Onkyo 636, reused subwoofer from a HTIB, $350 silver ticket 16:9 135” screen, elac debut 1.0 B6, C5 center and towers. I have atmos bouncy house speakers. The projector is a JVC RS400. I am very happy 4 years later. I have other hobbies and financial responsibilities that precludes me from being on the constant upgrade cycle. Eventually I will upgrade my AVR to one that passes HDR. I just have a hard time replacing stuff that is not broken.
Lol! I've done that reach around on my receiver plenty of times haha. I even used my phone selfie camera mode to try and see back there recently. Which funny enough, actually worked.
Just redid my 7.1 with in-wall surrounds. Had to use one free standing for side surround. Prewired for 4 atmos in-ceiling when I can afford 11 channel receiver. I used monopoles. It's nice, a little localizeable, smallish sweet spot, should have a second sub. I'm wondering about adding wide fronts, but they seem to be last on the list by most accounts.
Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate you bringing up many of the limitations of your room despite how amazing it is. In this hobby we can get so fixated on trying to aim for perfection we can often overlook how to make the best of what we do have.
Thank you. It’s too easy on any social media to be fooled in thinking everyone else’s life (or theater room) is perfect. That’s simply not reality. Glad you enjoyed the video
Your passion for home A/V keeps ppl motivated to invest more into the Home Cinema experience. My dispute with you is still with the speakers: POLK > Klipsch (lol !!)
My room isn’t dark enough. It’s not long enough. Acoustics COULD be better. My seating is just a sofa. I too, have two doors in and out of my room, and there at either side of my rear surrounds. Which makes it difficult, sorry, impossible to place one of my subwoofers at the rear like I want to do. Doors open onto them if so. Can’t flip my room around to avoid this because then my front stage is between the doors. Just to mention a few issues with mine. But boy, I love the way it sounds. I am genuinely in love with it. And I have to walk through it daily as it’s in the middle of the house, and I get to look at it and say, “ Yes baby, il see you at the weekend” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@youthman you could get rid of the left door, replace it with wall, and drop those rear surrounds down. Also, you could remove the sliding doors and replace them with wall, and go with in-wall side surrounds. Could also do in-wall rears.
Small issue with closing off the double sliding glass door...I would no longer be able to review large items (subwoofers, theater seating, and speakers). I have considered in-wall surround back speakers. Just not sure yet.
I love this! I will say (and I'm just gonna type items in here as I go through your video) 1. Yes yes YES, dedicated rooms are the way to go. If you can dedicate, do it! Shared is okay but dedicated is the bees-knees and no it doesn't cost eleventy million dollars. Just take your time, build it slow and before you know it you'll have a KILLER dedicated room. 2. Duuuude, absolutely! Blacking out the ceiling (and in my case the front and side walls as well) is a visual GAME CHANGER. Nevermind the aesthetics of the room, going full blackout makes your projector screen into a window. You're no longer watching a movie on a screen, you're looking through a portal into a living scene. It's truly no-compromise. 3. YES YES YES! Match as many of the speakers as possible, if possible. I have matching LCR towers and I can't see why this took me so long. I built my 7 bed layer towers to all match and it's seamless integration when the voice or sound travels around. Identical speakers all the way around is optimal. Being able to have matching speakers on the ceiling would be ideal but that's definitely an engineering impossibility in a lot of cases. 4. I control my subs from my MiniDSP but they ARE all externally amplified so I can just switch off the amps to go down to a single sub or whatever. 5. I only disagree with you here that I don't go to the cinema at ALL unless it's a special occasion. Sometimes the first lady will want to go to the theater for new movies or her family will want to make it a thing. I can ALWAYS wait for movies to get on UHD or Blu-Ray. My theater sounds substantial and it's so much more intimate and controllable.
Great room Michael don't be so hard on yourself. I think a mini split system would be perfect for your room for cooling of you and equipment plus they are ultra quiet 🤫
Excellent video. Just subscribed! I saw your "Epic" vid and sought you out. I am designing our dream house and a HT is a must. Keep up the good work. I look forward to see all your vids! The room design is a blank 28' x 20' (no windows) so I am all hears!!
When I added my theater to the back of my house I went with the Me Cool mini split heat pump. Does a great job in heat and cold. You should check it out.
Do you have eny acoustic threatment than those sidewallpanels in the space? Basstrapps or cealing dampening? You would get nice basstrapps on the empty space in above your mains behind the screen? The ceiling acoustic would bring your sound quality to next level too. Ive done that and it was the best thing to make sound better. Love your setup and your channel. Keep up the good work! 💪👍👌
"Guys I'll be honest with you... THAT'S DUMB." LOL. Tell it like it is Youthman! In all seriousness, this (as well as many of your other vids) has helped me immensely. I'm in the process (long, slow process) of building my theater which is 13x22x8 so THANKS!!
Awesome set up how wide is your room i am doing 7.1.4 soon and haven’t put the atmos speakers up yet i hear you would prefer 4 5 6 7 speakers lower i have a little i lie down in my listing spot on bed so its hard to have the ear level at the moment i have them about 2 foot above my listening level you think i should bring them down ?
I know this is probably a dumb question, but is the center speaker the only one that outputs the dialogue and the things happening on screen? I've just recently set up my dad's old 5.1 system and every speaker does output sound and i do hear things in the surrounds and stuff like im supposed to, but most of the sound does come directly from the center, whereas i thought the center, front left and right all work together to produce the dialogue and things happening on screen. So i was just asking just incase i have it set up wrong or not.
Most dialogue will come from center unless someone is standing to the side of the screen, then you will hear them from that speaker. The goal of each speaker is to reproduce sound from where it is supposed to be coming from in the movie
The Klipsch headphones (HP-3) are amazing! I have heard a lot of high-end headphones and I am telling you Klipsch is one of the best! I was honestly very surprised since they mainly focus on speakers. I never heard their TWS.
I wonder if it would be a gimmick to put a cuved projector screen in with a screen as big as yours. As you said your over size THX recommends, but what does a home IMAX sitting recommend?(Does IMAX recommend a cuve on top of size?) I dream of a room like yours one day!
Honestly I’m not sure how much a curved screen makes a difference. It would be really difficult to build a curved screen that is DIY, that can lift up and be supported by gas shocks.. I’m just not sure I see the benefit in my set up
I looked into this after I asked it. It deals with screen tearing on the edges with projection. They have prebuilt ones that one can order also. When I build my room this coming summer I'm fighting myself for a giant screen via projection or just going with a 77in OLED. But in the 100 to 200 in area would be rad. I also love how u have speakers behind it, and that's a big push to projection for me.
Great vids you have inspired me to use my spare tower as a centre I was wondering about the height I see your fronts are sitting on top of the cabinet ? Does that not place tweeters to high? Keep up the great channel!
Ideally, you want to have your tweeters at ear level. If you can’t do that, you should angle the speaker so that the tweeter is aimed at your ears. I have 2x4’s under the rear of my LaScalas that angle the tweeter at my listening position.
Thanks I’m here in New Zealand under lock down so I have time to play around with my speakers I have all c97 Jamo on the bed layer but a c9 mtm centre which I’ve always wanted to hear how a c97 would sound and now thanks to covid19 I have the time ! Thanks again for the great channel!
Hi Youthman, your videos are guiding me as I'm doing a smaller scale home theater as I finish my basement. I have a question about your caseta lighting. Do you have to have one of those physical switches for each "zone" you're controlling on your phone? I'm going to have 4 zones in my room so I'm guessing I need the hub and 4 of the wall switches? Thanks!
Great video Youthman, thanks again for being real and honest. Greatly value your time and efforts to help all of us home theater enthusiasts improve our experience!
I'm glad Klipsch is supporting you and you are enjoying them. Without going into the realm of 100k speakers, Klipsch seems to be the pinnacle for clarity, dynamics and support.
I’m not sure if they are the pinnacle but they certainly provide amazing clarity and dynamics. I have heard speakers that cost a lot more and did not sound as good
@@Youthman I think the support aspect I should have put more emphasis on. I love knowing there is not only a community of support but the company stands behind their products. It's why I quit buying totl vintage speakers. But I digress, I don't have budget to experience the higher tiers beyond what Klipsch has to offer today.
I agree with you on the screen size. THX also recommend 80hz crossovers. They're a great guideline but they're not always the case. Unlike the front seat of a theatre you're not craning your neck to take in the image which adds to the comfort level in you're room..
No matter how many times I run audyssy, take measurements using REW, change settings on my Mini DSP, move speakers around, repeat, repeat, still have a big null right in the center of my room, but the bass is slamming in the bathroom in the next room.
Hi Youthman. I still remember the first time I saw your channel and saw you encouraging people to be creative. On that day I said to my self “why not go bigger on a small room but make it look good with great sight & sound. My dedicated room is 10 x 11 and believe or not I have a 100 inch screen with a 5.2.4 system that consists in a: Denon X6500 receiver, Klipsch RP280/RP250c/RP250S/ (4) RP600M/(3)PB2000 subs and a BenQ 3550 projector. Sue is not perfect and it may seem to be a bit overkill for the room size but like you said in this video, the key word is “immersive” and to have that experience you have to go bigger but at the same been creative to maximize every single square foot of the room. This year and beginning to build my dedicated HT room is gonna be a 14x19 room so I hope to invite you once is finished, (don’t worry I will pay you the plane ticket 😂). Thank you for giving me the motivation and I also want to inspire others to do the same. My best wishes and blessings to you and your great channel.
I like the drawer solution you have for the equipment (processors, amps, etc.). I’m thinking about building a separate little room for my own equipment, complete with a telco rack, and just keep the Harmony Elite, Xbox controllers, the TV, and the speakers in the main room. Rear access to the connectors has always been important to me, despite not going back there anywhere near as often as you do. :)
Careful planning and loads of research meant that my dedicated theatre room was done once and once only...I've seen far too many people with the need to want to keep upgrading, and never seem to be happy...
That actually is not a result of not planning, that’s human nature. There’s nothing on this earth that will truly satisfy us and make us content. That has to come from something much deeper than material possessions
With your screen aspect ratio, does Imax Enhance (taller picture) create a problem now? My own screen is a 16:9 ration 100 inch diagonal, so now that Disney+ added the Marvel movies in Imax Enhanced, I'm getting to use more of the screen and the experience seems bigger. I'm wondering if for you, the taller image now robs you of some screen real estate?
Are you planning to go for monopole speakers for surrounds? (To comply with dolby's atmos requirements)? I now have the choice of rp-500m or rp-502s. What would you go for in a 5.1.2 setup.
Do you have a link for that? I have never found anything from Dolby that state to use direct radiating vs wide dispersion speakers. They suggest not to use them for your Atmos channels but I’m not seeing any clear info gain at using wide dispersion for surrounds. I definitely would not be opposed to switching if the sound would be significantly better
@@Youthman I guess you are right. I went to through thr dolby instalation guide and they only state: "Note: Dipole surround speakers are not recommended for use for Dolby Atmos playback." They don't say anything about bipoles so i assume they are ok. The klipsch RS-62/52 and Rp-502s/402s are bipole.
I appreciate the inspirational video. I'm very new to the game, and trying to learn what I can (which is why I follow this channel). I'm hoping to have a dedicated theater room when I move soon, as I don't currently have the space. I currently have a Klipsch 5.2 system (RP-280F's, 450C, 250S, etc.). I was thinking of maybe adding a couple 140SA's for height, then pick up another pair of 250S speakers when I have the room. I hadn't thought about using the same speaker for the front three channels, but it makes sense. I couldn't believe you had THREE La Scala speakers back there lol. What kind of subs are those? As far as screens are concerned, I like the idea of acoustic transparency. I also wouldn't settle for anything under 120 inches. Along with that, I will have to decide whether to go the ceiling mounted projector route, or the short throw variety. I haven't done a price comparison, but I'd bet the ceiling mount might be the cheaper route.
You can look into mini splits as a method to help cool your room. They come in high wall mount, near the floor mount, and ceiling mount. Don't let any body talk you out of them ...... they can be game changers!!! they can also take care of multiple rooms if needed. You just CAN'T expect your existing AC system to help with your needs! Installing duct boosters or new ducts is NOT going to help.
nicely explained. Every room has some compromise. Your room is almost similar to my room, except you have side window whereas i have a window which is going to be behind the TV.
Few of us have the opportunity to build a dedicated HT room. From the ground up. In an unfinished basement. Usually the HT room is an after thought. We've moved in to the home and then one day decide we'd like a HT room. So we have to take an existing room and work around obstacles Doors being in the wrong spot. Might be pipes along the wall that has to be covered up so there would be a protrusion into the HT room. Or ducting in thee ceiling. Obstacles that would stop us from starting with 4 flat walls and a flat ceiling. Ceiling height might be less than optimal. Typical ceiling hight is around 8 feet. Some newer homes have 10 foot ceilings. So taking an existing room usually means you can't do any sound isolation treatments. Into the walls and ceiling. Which prevents us from being able to really enjoy the HT room without annoying the rest of the family or neighbours. Most people with HT rooms ignore sound isolation and acoustic treatments. Which IMHO should be taken care of FIRST. And might be a sizeable part of the budget. As it involves room construction. How complicated? Means more money. I have yet to see any HT you've featured where the home owner has sound isolated the room...allowing him to watch movies at reference levels at 3 am and not wake the baby. Can be complex. But in the end needed for the ""best HT room". Most of us can't afford a custom HT room. e.g. Living room HT's.
Your media room is very similar to mine in size. I'm at 13 x 18.5. I've definitely had to get creative to use the space the best way possible. I also built a riser just like yours to elevate the rear 3 seat recliner. The difference is, you have some VERY nice eq! I'm using klipsch rp series all the way around with a single klipsch sub, a Yamaha rx-a1080 receiver powering everything. Switching to the Yamaha rx-a3080 next week. I can't imagine having separates.
Hey Marcus your room is indeed almost identical in size to mine. I wish it was a little bit larger but it’s still a great space to work with, even if it’s not perfect
For sure! Even though I wish it were maybe 5 feet longer and a couple feet wider, I'm still very happy to have a dedicated theater room vs a living room.
First of all. Love your theater I think most people have challenges with their theaters including me. Like you said you have to be creative and that has helped me with my setup. Is it ideal no but it works and sounds great. Really enjoy your videos
Fantastic video! I'm definitely going to be getting some ideas for my theater from your channel! Thanks! I need to look into the Lutron Caseta, light control is something I haven't sorted out yet. In my last theater I just had a couple dimmers in place of the original light switches. I'm just getting started on the new house where my next theater will be. I've been trying to figure out pre-wire for everything and was wondering about light control. I'm guessing this Lutron Caseta will just need power and it will be wireless communication with dimmers in place of the original light switches? Honestly I don't get particularly excited about lighting effects such as behind the screen or under the seats. For me, dimmer control of the main lights, some step lights for in the dark navigation and maybe some effects lights somewhere on the wall. Last time I had some acoustic panels mounted on the walls offset from the wall just enough to have a nice red LED glow coming from behind them. That's probably all I need for effects lighting. I will have a "control room" behind the theater back wall. The projector will be in the control room along with the AV processor, the surround, Atmos, aux sub-woofer amplifiers plus sources such as BluRay, media PC etc. LCR and two main sub-woofer amplifiers will be at the front below the screen. The control room can also house the Lutron Caseta bridge plus anything else I haven't thought of yet. (Suggestions welcome). One good thing, the theater will be surrounded by attic space above and on three sides and the control room on the fourth side. There will be access to get beneath the raised floor from the bottom of the control room. So it should be an easy matter to run lines for any future upgrades. Still, I would like to install pre-wire during construction for as many possibilities as I can imagine just to avoid having to deal with it in the future so all pre-wire suggestions are much appreciated. Thanks for posting such an informative video!
Good video man! Another note just rented Midway from red box guys and the LFE in that movie was RIDICULOUS!!!!! I've never heard my HSU hit so hard and low. Just wanted to put that out there for y'all. 👍🏽👍🏽
Dolby Atmos is the greatest jump in Home Theater since we went from Dolby Pro logic to Dolby Digital. Hands down and maybe even bigger. I told that to a friend who has been on this journey with me for over the past 20 years, and after hearing me talk about it and my excitement over it, after about 2 weeks he upgraded also. After his first sit down he called me and said "man you were absolutely correct, Dolby Atmos is Amazing!". Don't think it is all about the overhead speakers either, because with Dolby Atmos every speaker is object-based and every speaker sounds clearer, more precise, bigger soundstage, and just all around dialed in. Simply Amazing! DTS:X is also great, but as of now I think the best bang per buck is Atmos
Awesome video, it’s funny people get intimidated buy custom home theatres but like you said you have the same problems other people have, as well myself, but making it sound amazing based on your limitations is what makes it worth it. I think the most intimidating thing for people is the cost for the audio equipment, they want what you have for a quarter of the price. Honesty hurts on that though because it will come through in the sound for them cheeping out on quality. I’m always honest with buddies about the cost because it’s real.
Ok, I want to go 7.1.2 or 7.1.4. This is my problem. The only good spots I have are at ear level (above my Sourrond speaker) and behind me (above my back surrounds). Should I just do the 2 or the 4? Is the panning from front to back and back to front in the ceiling that important? Thanks. Love your vids man.
Very informative video 😉👍 As for your heat issue, you can look into a in wall ac unit. I've seen some really nice ones, it's super quiet and the head unit is almost flush to the wall. It'll cool off your room with ease.
@@Youthman Also look into any Minisplit A\C I have one does both heat and A\C in my detached garage 25x25x8 that is my Mancave 7.2.4 100 inch screen, FYI you dont have to get heat pump if you dont want , I did. I Live In Nebraska
Wonderful video! Definitely thoughts that are fresh in my mind since I just finished my theater room and definitely had to make some compromises due to existing space.
Awesome setup Youthman! I just installed the 4 height speakers to round out the 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos. Totally agree with you on the Logitech Harmony, smart lights (Hue) and voice control (Google Home) We are upper entry level with the Denon AVRx4500H + additional 2ch Unity 2x100w Amp all driving KEF UniQ bookshelf speakers and a pair of CerwinVega 10" subs. All setup in a relatively small living room. Sound is great, TV is ok with DX800 65" ...plan to upgrade to 65" or 77" OLED. Anyway it's been a fun project. Love to go the next level such as your Movie room. Really liked watching what you created in your home.
I think the imperfection of your Room is the thing that makes your room actually your room and makes it special. There is a Channel from Germany thats called Grobi.TV and they are professionally building Home Cinemas on another level. Im talking about building a room into a room with massive accoustic threatment. And mostly the speakers are hidden. I actually like it that the speakers are visible. I got a 7.2.8 Setup in my cinema which switches between Auro 3D and Atmos (in German there isnt so much atmos content like in English. So i have to go for Auro3D very often.) But if you got so many speakers it looks fantastic. Most people get blown away seeing whats possible nowadays. And thats not even the maximum. Technically you could go up to 32 Speakers with the Trinnov at DTS.X Pro . I mean thats amazing! But i like how you managed your Beamer . Its not in the same room. The Beamer makes the most noise i think and generates the most heat i bet. Having it in another room is the best thing. In my cinema its the opposite of yours. I got the av and everything in a seperate room and the beamer in the same room ... Do you know when you are going for the JVC? Kinda interested in your thoughts about this beamer. I mean ive already got the Sony VPL VW 270ES which also costs 5000 but im not as happy as i could be with it. Id like to have a laser projector but they mostly dont have 4k and 3D under 10k. Love your videos keep up the work!
I'm an HVAC tech and I believe ductless mini split would be simplest solution to your air flow needs, make it a heat pump for heating, you can go wall mounted, ceiling hung or recessed ceiling for the indoor unit, and their whisper quiet.
You're doing a great job Yootman !! Btw, I've always had to deal with whatever leftovers the the contractors give me in terms of HVAC and plumbing obstructions, so speaker placement many times ends up sketchy at best, BUT.......the end result after tuning always amazes me leaving me to believe it isn't as critical as we think....I've even done systems with everything in the ceiling and if you use the correct drivers the results will impress... I was at Excision the other night in PiXsburgh, he was running 48x18 on floor across front...that's another story 😆😂🤣
have you considered getting rid of the ceiling speakers and using elevation speakers high on the walls or having metal poles in the ceiling mounting the SVS elevation speakers on those.. instead? Such as the SVS Elevation speakers. Youthman
HELLO YOUTHMAN , THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO . I REALLY LIKE YOUR HOME THEATER BUT LIKE I TOLD SOMEONE IN THE COMMENTS IT IS NOT PERFECT . WE HAVE TO BE LIKE OUR FRIEND GENE FROM AUDIOHOLICS ( HUMBLE ,ALLWAYS SHOW THE REAL FACTS AND HONEST REVIEWS ) . HAVE A GREAT WEEK AND KEEP LISTENING 👂 🔊😁🙏🏻🎼!
@Youthman Hey Im curious about your acoustically transparent screen. Have you not noticed any moire affects on it? Also, do you have a link to the fabric you purchased?
Hey Josh, here is the link - youthmanreviews.com/about/ Also, here is a recent video where I talk about the screen - ruclips.net/video/qowMP583_Vk/видео.html
Thanks for a great video. If the left door cannot open anyways, why not just put the rear surrounds on the door that doesn't open anyways? It also looks like you have more foot room than you need in the rear seats?
That door is a hollow door so I would imagine that speaker would shake quite a bit on that door if I mounted it to it. Also it would look weird having a speaker mounted directly to a door LOL When I recline the rear seats, the foot rest touches the back of the head rest of the front row so I do not have any option of moving those seats any closer to the front row
Youthman...hello my friend,yes you are right ...i just got the delivery of 2 s3612 ipal subwoofers and man i had problems ....for one thing the mini dsp did not let those beast work from the very beginning they work after i remove the mini dsp 2x4hd,but wait it gets worst my receiver pioneer sc 55 stop working within minutes, lucky i had a yamaha rxv367 on standby,but youth man those psa 3612 ipal are my dream...i am over the road right now and i am thinking of them... Going to work on getting the denon 8500h and put ceiling speakers, hope you and the family are doing well thks for all you do.
Wonderful wonderful wonderful well put together video about your home theaters and about your set up I love all ur video Because we are klipsch brothers because I have all klipsch speakers too also😄😄👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Question can you give me your opinion about Kaleidescape. I have a great DVD collection over 4000 was looking at Kaleidescape‘s vault as well as Purchasing 2 TB servers
Hi When you say your chairs are 9ft from the screen do you mean the space between your screen and the very front end of your chair is nine feet or are you talkin about where the backing of your seat is when is extended
Simple question: Bluetooth connection can pass through Dolby ATMOS or the only connection is the HDMI cable connection? I know that Bluetooth just support stereo sound but the BestBuy technicians hooked up my friend’s LG TV that supports ATMOS to his YAMAHA receiver that decodes ATMOS using the Bluetooth connection between both. I don’t believe that technician knows the difference between stereo, Dolby Surround, DTSX or Dolby ATMOS.
Mike, you could add a mini split A/C system in there. I have installed one in my garage, one of those DIY systems from HD(~$1200) and it has been great(!). Super silent(~28dB) and gives heat as well. Did I mention, that it is smart as well(has a Wi-Fi dongle and an app). Extra hose is in the attic.
@@Youthman MrCool is the brand. They sell 120V system. That is what I have for my garage(will be the theater room/man cave). Though you will have to drill a 3.5" hole in the wall. I'm not sure, if you would want to do that. Maybe an insert in the sliding door?!
Mike, I have another question for you. Do you use the equalizer presets in a receiver? There is a point in using those? I have an Onkyo receiver(TX-TZ730).
My advice to first-timers is be aware a North American power outlet will typically give you about 1500 Watts power, in Europe it’s about double that. 1500W is not enough to run a Dolby Atmos set up without clipping or other potential damage to your AVR or speakers at full volume. Call an electrician for a dedicated power supply! My second tip is be careful with HDMI cables - they can be easily damaged by frequent plugging and unplugging and if the pins get bent they may fry your circuit board..
I run a dedicated 20 amp for all of my equipment. Works perfect for my 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos system. I shared about it here ruclips.net/video/4Emq8cTYQ3Q/видео.html
I use tall towers on the floor. In the back of my room, and the surround sounds good sitting next to them surprisingly. I would still rather have them like you do, but I wonder if that makes a difference with space hearing them.
Youthman, I am in framing of our remodel. unfort, my media room area is similar in dimensions to yours. but my back is open. would you kindly share the cabinet drawing plans? I would like to work off of them to design something similar - but without the columns and the front top decorative piece - gonna go with something and trying to stay in a budget. much appreciated.
Hey Ben, unfortunately there are no plans. My friend designed and built the cabinet pretty much in his head. He’s literally the smartest person I know. The only thing we had to work off of was google sketch up that he designed just so he could show me what he was envisioning in his head
Using the same speaker as center, what you use as left and right might work with those La Scalas..but would you recommend to a normal floor standing speaker as center? Isn't it a kind of "waste of speaker" to use for example Klipsch RP 8000F as center because there is two 8" woofers and what i have understood, there is not that much bass coming from center channel? Or am i wrong..?
Anytime you use a horizontal center, it’s a compromise. I’m not saying they sound bad, it just sounds better with a floorstanding speaker. The La Scala’s or floorstanding speakers as well
Michael, I always love your positive attitude, and honest disposition. Your content is always entertaining, and educational. Keep up the great work man!
Thanks bro
Youthman, that was another great video. I would love just sitting down and talking home theater with you and sharing that passion. The video came out both authentic and honest, and that we will always adds value. Thanks buddy.
Thank you Adam I appreciate that man. So many times I try to create “polished “videos but maybe just these are all videos are equally enjoyable
Hi Youthman, great video! I too own the Klipsch RF-7 series iii and the matching center channel RC-64 series iii along with the Klipsch surrounds as well. I just wanted to say if your running Klipsch speakers you might want to consider running a Yamaha a pre & pro combination which would work well in your system. The thing about Klipsch and Yamaha and why they match well together is still a mystery to me. On a personal note: I'm using a Yamaha RX-3060 A/V receiver and it sounds amazing though the Klipsch speakers. I hope this helps.
This is a great video for those new into the hobby, and advanced users. A discussion of unique room challenges is extremely useful and valuable. Excellent work!
Thank you Dat. I appreciate the kind words
@@Youthman i love the work you put out, and the Facebook community is also a great place to share and discuss the hobby. I've been really enjoying that too!
@@nonametofame Thank you Dat. The Facebook Community was in preparation for the channel growth. With over 46,000 subscribers, I began to realize that I cannot physically provide tech support and help to everyone. By developing a community of like-minded individuals, together, we can help each other instead of me trying to do all of the work myself. Glad you are enjoying the Facebook Group.
Really great advice! Nobody considers these things when they are thinking of a home theater until it's too late. Thanks Youthman!
Glad the video was helpful
How wide is your 150" screen in feet? Knowing now your only 9' from the screen.
And I think it was worth making this video. As few of us can truly build a custom dedicated HT room from the ground up. Your room an exterior room with a sliding door. Was it the "family room"? Do you ever hear the doors vibrate?? What about outside light? Do you hve some foam to put over the doors when you're not expecting people to walk in from the outside?
So much love, research and careful planning. An absolute marvel of a setup. I think you rock MR. Youthman. 🤟🏻
Anybody who loves music and film gotta appreciate this.
Thanks, here is my room tour if you haven’t seen it yet ruclips.net/video/PBuHLgGkfV4/видео.html
YM...thanks for taking us on a deeper dive into your HT. Lots of nuggets. I like the idea of being able to cut the power to your subs and the conduit idea is cool too.
The HT journey is a long one and perfection is unobtainable. I think the fun and the challenge is in the chase. In the mean time...enjoy the popcorn and the movies...!
Thanks Oldskool. It has been a fun journey
Another nice video and I love the fact that you get into things others don't. My room has limitations too but, like you, I'm not complaining at all and feel extremely blessed to have it. It's also been an amazing journey building it over the years.
Thank you John. Glad you enjoyed the video
I've told this to people all the time, unless you start from scratch with an unlimited budget, you'll always have compromises with something like a home theater. But that's just part of the fun, making your space work for you. You've done a great job over the years making an awesome space my friend
I think you’re correct Kyle make the best of what you have whether it’s a dedicated home theater, living room, a basement, garage, or even a bedroom
The thing I loved most about this video...HONESTY and sharing the BAD
Not sugarcoating the bad stuff... It's these kinda issues that deter most people from attempting to build something for themselves...but if you get to know the challenges, you can be careful going into your own setup (whether simple or outright killer)
Great confessional. I suffer from similar issues. Will one day rectify issues but, as you noted, time and patience. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
You honestly have one of the best home theaters on RUclips. It is not even my style, I prefer a more modern look with dark walls, ceiling stars, and a grey color screen, but I can recognize it is great.
What I like about it is how the speakers are hidden, the fact that your screen goes wall to wall (I really hate those setups where the screen is in the middle, and the speakers are visible on the sides, it looks tacky, and makes their screens look small no matter how big they are), I also love your seating, and that wooden cabinet is not my style (I like a modern look more), but it looks luxurious, and that's cool.
I also imagine your sound is pretty cool. I would prefer not having windows, or glass doors, but those curtains you have are a good choice because they are plain (I hate the other curtains some people use with flowers and leaves, they look like old lady's) these ones you have are nice.
Really enjoy listening to people talk about their HT... You can pick up some solid ideas and learn some cool tricks. It's also bold to share it here on YT because of haters that are going to hate, no changing that! Thanks YM for another solid presentation!
Thank you Gilbert. Have you seen the latest update at home theater tour? I also have a playlist of all of the home theater tours you might be interested in
@@Youthman Thanks Michael!
Really appreciate you identifying things you wish you could change and that your theater is not perfect. Honestly refreshing. I am currently in the process of building my dedicated theater room and can already identify things that I wish I had done differently or even thought of during the construction. Hindsight right? Great video and makes me like you and your channel even more!!
Thank you Rikki.
Youthman..It's great to have honest people. You made me feel so much better about the flaws in my setup. We all assume that the folks on RUclips is problem and worry free.
Nope you’re just like everyone else. Flawed and all
Please consider creating a video explaining how you built and mounted your screen. I love it!! Obviously, this would be cost prohibitive for many people unless it’s DIY.
Great video. I wanted to go with bigger than my 100 inch screen, but my room is 15 feet. Front row of seats is 6.5 feet away and I just don't think I could push it. I sit in the back row that is 13 feet. Agree with the comment on conduit and wished I had thought of that now that I'm thinking about adding Atmos speakers. Cool thing about mine is it built in a basement room with absolutely no windows.
You can ABSOLUTELY go bigger with your screen. When I was slinging screens for Stewart and SI, I ALWAYS said if the calculator said "X", go to the next logical size up. Go BIG!!
Awesome video! Three words for your heat problem: ductless mini split. We’re adding that to our extension due to a) solid concrete room and b) way cheaper than extending the duct (if it were possible). Check it out and hopefully it’s a viable option for you.
Awesome unbiased, and honest video!
...which is why I keep coming back to your channel.
I am blessed with a 24' square room, ceiling is 8' and 10' in places, a 135" screen, JVC PJ, and mostly Klipsch (aging) speakers.
L&R are a pair of Klipsch Cornwalls - 40+ years old. LOVE those!
Thank you Garry. Sounds like you have an incredible set up sir
@@Youthman It's pretty good for a "middle of the road" overall system.
Recent Denon 4400 9.2 receiver in a 7.2.2 configuration - a 12" Klipsch down firing 300w sub, plus a 15" Velodyne 600w sub on either side of the room firing inward.
I'll send you a vid or some pix when I get a chance.
Tomorrow, I'm heading south from Canada for 2 weeks of sand & sea! - Cheers!
@@garryhammond3117 Sounds good. Safe travels.
I built my theater in late 2015. I had a budget that was on the low end compared to many others. I have a Onkyo 636, reused subwoofer from a HTIB, $350 silver ticket 16:9 135” screen, elac debut 1.0 B6, C5 center and towers. I have atmos bouncy house speakers. The projector is a JVC RS400. I am very happy 4 years later. I have other hobbies and financial responsibilities that precludes me from being on the constant upgrade cycle. Eventually I will upgrade my AVR to one that passes HDR. I just have a hard time replacing stuff that is not broken.
Lol! I've done that reach around on my receiver plenty of times haha. I even used my phone selfie camera mode to try and see back there recently. Which funny enough, actually worked.
Just redid my 7.1 with in-wall surrounds. Had to use one free standing for side surround. Prewired for 4 atmos in-ceiling when I can afford 11 channel receiver. I used monopoles. It's nice, a little localizeable, smallish sweet spot, should have a second sub. I'm wondering about adding wide fronts, but they seem to be last on the list by most accounts.
Great write up, love the last part of what you would change, answers some nagging questions on my setup. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate you bringing up many of the limitations of your room despite how amazing it is. In this hobby we can get so fixated on trying to aim for perfection we can often overlook how to make the best of what we do have.
Thank you. It’s too easy on any social media to be fooled in thinking everyone else’s life (or theater room) is perfect. That’s simply not reality. Glad you enjoyed the video
@@Youthman You are such a gem at your refined and mature thoughts! Always a fan!
Your passion for home A/V keeps ppl motivated to invest more into the Home Cinema experience. My dispute with you is still with the speakers: POLK > Klipsch (lol !!)
My room isn’t dark enough. It’s not long enough. Acoustics COULD be better. My seating is just a sofa. I too, have two doors in and out of my room, and there at either side of my rear surrounds. Which makes it difficult, sorry, impossible to place one of my subwoofers at the rear like I want to do. Doors open onto them if so. Can’t flip my room around to avoid this because then my front stage is between the doors. Just to mention a few issues with mine. But boy, I love the way it sounds. I am genuinely in love with it. And I have to walk through it daily as it’s in the middle of the house, and I get to look at it and say, “ Yes baby, il see you at the weekend” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s so awesome Duane. Being contempt is a discipline that many do not have
Great accessibility. Well done.
@youthman you could get rid of the left door, replace it with wall, and drop those rear surrounds down. Also, you could remove the sliding doors and replace them with wall, and go with in-wall side surrounds. Could also do in-wall rears.
Small issue with closing off the double sliding glass door...I would no longer be able to review large items (subwoofers, theater seating, and speakers). I have considered in-wall surround back speakers. Just not sure yet.
I love this! I will say (and I'm just gonna type items in here as I go through your video)
1. Yes yes YES, dedicated rooms are the way to go. If you can dedicate, do it! Shared is okay but dedicated is the bees-knees and no it doesn't cost eleventy million dollars. Just take your time, build it slow and before you know it you'll have a KILLER dedicated room.
2. Duuuude, absolutely! Blacking out the ceiling (and in my case the front and side walls as well) is a visual GAME CHANGER. Nevermind the aesthetics of the room, going full blackout makes your projector screen into a window. You're no longer watching a movie on a screen, you're looking through a portal into a living scene. It's truly no-compromise.
3. YES YES YES! Match as many of the speakers as possible, if possible. I have matching LCR towers and I can't see why this took me so long. I built my 7 bed layer towers to all match and it's seamless integration when the voice or sound travels around. Identical speakers all the way around is optimal. Being able to have matching speakers on the ceiling would be ideal but that's definitely an engineering impossibility in a lot of cases.
4. I control my subs from my MiniDSP but they ARE all externally amplified so I can just switch off the amps to go down to a single sub or whatever.
5. I only disagree with you here that I don't go to the cinema at ALL unless it's a special occasion. Sometimes the first lady will want to go to the theater for new movies or her family will want to make it a thing. I can ALWAYS wait for movies to get on UHD or Blu-Ray. My theater sounds substantial and it's so much more intimate and controllable.
Great room Michael don't be so hard on yourself. I think a mini split system would be perfect for your room for cooling of you and equipment plus they are ultra quiet 🤫
A lot of guys have mentioned mini split. I need to look into that.
Wow, $3000 to cool a single room? Dang. Where's that Youthman Deal when you need it?
Excellent video. Just subscribed! I saw your "Epic" vid and sought you out. I am designing our dream house and a HT is a must. Keep up the good work. I look forward to see all your vids!
The room design is a blank 28' x 20' (no windows) so I am all hears!!
Thanks Tim! Glad to have you.Here is my home theater tour playlist for lots of inspiration - ruclips.net/p/PLlM19BsA_lkZfivVclY6x7ruImh9s9aGs
When I added my theater to the back of my house I went with the Me Cool mini split heat pump. Does a great job in heat and cold. You should check it out.
Do you have eny acoustic threatment than those sidewallpanels in the space?
Basstrapps or cealing dampening?
You would get nice basstrapps on the empty space in above your mains behind the screen?
The ceiling acoustic would bring your sound quality to next level too.
Ive done that and it was the best thing to make sound better.
Love your setup and your channel. Keep up the good work! 💪👍👌
Great advice/ tips for those of us who haven't built ours yet.
I enjoy all of your dialogue bro. Thanks
"Guys I'll be honest with you... THAT'S DUMB." LOL. Tell it like it is Youthman! In all seriousness, this (as well as many of your other vids) has helped me immensely. I'm in the process (long, slow process) of building my theater which is 13x22x8 so THANKS!!
Haha yeah I just simply don’t agree with THX saying the biggest screen you should have at 9’ is 80”.
Glad the videos have been helpful with your journey
Awesome set up how wide is your room i am doing 7.1.4 soon and haven’t put the atmos speakers up yet i hear you would prefer 4 5 6 7 speakers lower i have a little i lie down in my listing spot on bed so its hard to have the ear level at the moment i have them about 2 foot above my listening level you think i should bring them down ?
I know this is probably a dumb question, but is the center speaker the only one that outputs the dialogue and the things happening on screen? I've just recently set up my dad's old 5.1 system and every speaker does output sound and i do hear things in the surrounds and stuff like im supposed to, but most of the sound does come directly from the center, whereas i thought the center, front left and right all work together to produce the dialogue and things happening on screen. So i was just asking just incase i have it set up wrong or not.
Most dialogue will come from center unless someone is standing to the side of the screen, then you will hear them from that speaker. The goal of each speaker is to reproduce sound from where it is supposed to be coming from in the movie
@@Youthman oh ok i gotcha, thank you. I love your videos btw, i cant wait to build my theater up overtime and learn more.
The Klipsch headphones (HP-3) are amazing! I have heard a lot of high-end headphones and I am telling you Klipsch is one of the best! I was honestly very surprised since they mainly focus on speakers. I never heard their TWS.
I wonder if it would be a gimmick to put a cuved projector screen in with a screen as big as yours. As you said your over size THX recommends, but what does a home IMAX sitting recommend?(Does IMAX recommend a cuve on top of size?)
I dream of a room like yours one day!
Honestly I’m not sure how much a curved screen makes a difference. It would be really difficult to build a curved screen that is DIY, that can lift up and be supported by gas shocks.. I’m just not sure I see the benefit in my set up
I looked into this after I asked it. It deals with screen tearing on the edges with projection. They have prebuilt ones that one can order also.
When I build my room this coming summer I'm fighting myself for a giant screen via projection or just going with a 77in OLED. But in the 100 to 200 in area would be rad. I also love how u have speakers behind it, and that's a big push to projection for me.
Loved it from the get go! Awesome stuff youthman
Great vids you have inspired me to use my spare tower as a centre I was wondering about the height I see your fronts are sitting on top of the cabinet ? Does that not place tweeters to high? Keep up the great channel!
Ideally, you want to have your tweeters at ear level. If you can’t do that, you should angle the speaker so that the tweeter is aimed at your ears. I have 2x4’s under the rear of my LaScalas that angle the tweeter at my listening position.
Thanks I’m here in New Zealand under lock down so I have time to play around with my speakers I have all c97 Jamo on the bed layer but a c9 mtm centre which I’ve always wanted to hear how a c97 would sound and now thanks to covid19 I have the time ! Thanks again for the great channel!
Hi Youthman, your videos are guiding me as I'm doing a smaller scale home theater as I finish my basement. I have a question about your caseta lighting. Do you have to have one of those physical switches for each "zone" you're controlling on your phone? I'm going to have 4 zones in my room so I'm guessing I need the hub and 4 of the wall switches? Thanks!
Great video Youthman, thanks again for being real and honest. Greatly value your time and efforts to help all of us home theater enthusiasts improve our experience!
I appreciate the kind words thank you very much
I'm glad Klipsch is supporting you and you are enjoying them. Without going into the realm of 100k speakers, Klipsch seems to be the pinnacle for clarity, dynamics and support.
I’m not sure if they are the pinnacle but they certainly provide amazing clarity and dynamics. I have heard speakers that cost a lot more and did not sound as good
@@Youthman I think the support aspect I should have put more emphasis on. I love knowing there is not only a community of support but the company stands behind their products. It's why I quit buying totl vintage speakers. But I digress, I don't have budget to experience the higher tiers beyond what Klipsch has to offer today.
I agree with you on the screen size. THX also recommend 80hz crossovers. They're a great guideline but they're not always the case. Unlike the front seat of a theatre you're not craning your neck to take in the image which adds to the comfort level in you're room..
You got it
No matter how many times I run audyssy, take measurements using REW, change settings on my Mini DSP, move speakers around, repeat, repeat, still have a big null right in the center of my room, but the bass is slamming in the bathroom in the next room.
Hi Youthman. I still remember the first time I saw your channel and saw you encouraging people to be creative. On that day I said to my self “why not go bigger on a small room but make it look good with great sight & sound. My dedicated room is 10 x 11 and believe or not I have a 100 inch screen with a 5.2.4 system that consists in a: Denon X6500 receiver, Klipsch RP280/RP250c/RP250S/ (4) RP600M/(3)PB2000 subs and a BenQ 3550 projector. Sue is not perfect and it may seem to be a bit overkill for the room size but like you said in this video, the key word is “immersive” and to have that experience you have to go bigger but at the same been creative to maximize every single square foot of the room. This year and beginning to build my dedicated HT room is gonna be a 14x19 room so I hope to invite you once is finished, (don’t worry I will pay you the plane ticket 😂). Thank you for giving me the motivation and I also want to inspire others to do the same. My best wishes and blessings to you and your great channel.
Thank you for the kind words Cesar. Sounds like you put together a fantastic home theater congrats
I like the drawer solution you have for the equipment (processors, amps, etc.).
I’m thinking about building a separate little room for my own equipment, complete with a telco rack, and just keep the Harmony Elite, Xbox controllers, the TV, and the speakers in the main room. Rear access to the connectors has always been important to me, despite not going back there anywhere near as often as you do. :)
Rear access makes it sooo much easier for sure
Yet another great honest video Youthman. Keep up the great job.
Thank you Steve
Careful planning and loads of research meant that my dedicated theatre room was done once and once only...I've seen far too many people with the need to want to keep upgrading, and never seem to be happy...
That actually is not a result of not planning, that’s human nature. There’s nothing on this earth that will truly satisfy us and make us content. That has to come from something much deeper than material possessions
@@Youthman correct, but i got sick of chasing content upgrades when 4k arrived...and this is why
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With your screen aspect ratio, does Imax Enhance (taller picture) create a problem now? My own screen is a 16:9 ration 100 inch diagonal, so now that Disney+ added the Marvel movies in Imax Enhanced, I'm getting to use more of the screen and the experience seems bigger. I'm wondering if for you, the taller image now robs you of some screen real estate?
Are you planning to go for monopole speakers for surrounds? (To comply with dolby's atmos requirements)? I now have the choice of rp-500m or rp-502s. What would you go for in a 5.1.2 setup.
Do you have a link for that? I have never found anything from Dolby that state to use direct radiating vs wide dispersion speakers. They suggest not to use them for your Atmos channels but I’m not seeing any clear info gain at using wide dispersion for surrounds.
I definitely would not be opposed to switching if the sound would be significantly better
@@Youthman I guess you are right. I went to through thr dolby instalation guide and they only state: "Note: Dipole surround speakers are not recommended for use for Dolby Atmos playback." They don't say anything about bipoles so i assume they are ok. The klipsch RS-62/52 and Rp-502s/402s are bipole.
I appreciate the inspirational video. I'm very new to the game, and trying to learn what I can (which is why I follow this channel). I'm hoping to have a dedicated theater room when I move soon, as I don't currently have the space. I currently have a Klipsch 5.2 system (RP-280F's, 450C, 250S, etc.). I was thinking of maybe adding a couple 140SA's for height, then pick up another pair of 250S speakers when I have the room. I hadn't thought about using the same speaker for the front three channels, but it makes sense. I couldn't believe you had THREE La Scala speakers back there lol. What kind of subs are those?
As far as screens are concerned, I like the idea of acoustic transparency. I also wouldn't settle for anything under 120 inches. Along with that, I will have to decide whether to go the ceiling mounted projector route, or the short throw variety. I haven't done a price comparison, but I'd bet the ceiling mount might be the cheaper route.
You can look into mini splits as a method to help cool your room. They come in high wall mount, near the floor mount, and ceiling mount. Don't let any body talk you out of them ...... they can be game changers!!! they can also take care of multiple rooms if needed. You just CAN'T expect your existing AC system to help with your needs! Installing duct boosters or new ducts is NOT going to help.
Thank you for the advice.
nicely explained. Every room has some compromise. Your room is almost similar to my room, except you have side window whereas i have a window which is going to be behind the TV.
Thank you very much
Hi
I like to asking, you think which Ultra Short Throw Projektor the best,and why ?
1, : Sony VPL-VZ1000 ES. or
2. : LG CineBeam Hu85 LA.
Few of us have the opportunity to build a dedicated HT room. From the ground up. In an unfinished basement.
Usually the HT room is an after thought. We've moved in to the home and then one day decide we'd like a HT room. So we have to take an existing room and work around obstacles Doors being in the wrong spot. Might be pipes along the wall that has to be covered up so there would be a protrusion into the HT room. Or ducting in thee ceiling. Obstacles that would stop us from starting with 4 flat walls and a flat ceiling.
Ceiling height might be less than optimal. Typical ceiling hight is around 8 feet. Some newer homes have 10 foot ceilings.
So taking an existing room usually means you can't do any sound isolation treatments. Into the walls and ceiling. Which prevents us from being able to really enjoy the HT room without annoying the rest of the family or neighbours.
Most people with HT rooms ignore sound isolation and acoustic treatments. Which IMHO should be taken care of FIRST. And might be a sizeable part of the budget. As it involves room construction. How complicated? Means more money.
I have yet to see any HT you've featured where the home owner has sound isolated the room...allowing him to watch movies at reference levels at 3 am and not wake the baby. Can be complex. But in the end needed for the ""best HT room".
Most of us can't afford a custom HT room. e.g. Living room HT's.
Your media room is very similar to mine in size. I'm at 13 x 18.5. I've definitely had to get creative to use the space the best way possible. I also built a riser just like yours to elevate the rear 3 seat recliner. The difference is, you have some VERY nice eq! I'm using klipsch rp series all the way around with a single klipsch sub, a Yamaha rx-a1080 receiver powering everything. Switching to the Yamaha rx-a3080 next week. I can't imagine having separates.
Hey Marcus your room is indeed almost identical in size to mine. I wish it was a little bit larger but it’s still a great space to work with, even if it’s not perfect
For sure! Even though I wish it were maybe 5 feet longer and a couple feet wider, I'm still very happy to have a dedicated theater room vs a living room.
Same here.
First of all. Love your theater I think most people have challenges with their theaters including me. Like you said you have to be creative and that has helped me with my setup. Is it ideal no but it works and sounds great. Really enjoy your videos
Thank you very much Scott glad you’re enjoying the content
Fantastic video! I'm definitely going to be getting some ideas for my theater from your channel! Thanks!
I need to look into the Lutron Caseta, light control is something I haven't sorted out yet. In my last theater I just had a couple dimmers in place of the original light switches.
I'm just getting started on the new house where my next theater will be. I've been trying to figure out pre-wire for everything and was wondering about light control. I'm guessing this Lutron Caseta will just need power and it will be wireless communication with dimmers in place of the original light switches?
Honestly I don't get particularly excited about lighting effects such as behind the screen or under the seats. For me, dimmer control of the main lights, some step lights for in the dark navigation and maybe some effects lights somewhere on the wall. Last time I had some acoustic panels mounted on the walls offset from the wall just enough to have a nice red LED glow coming from behind them. That's probably all I need for effects lighting.
I will have a "control room" behind the theater back wall. The projector will be in the control room along with the AV processor, the surround, Atmos, aux sub-woofer amplifiers plus sources such as BluRay, media PC etc. LCR and two main sub-woofer amplifiers will be at the front below the screen. The control room can also house the Lutron Caseta bridge plus anything else I haven't thought of yet. (Suggestions welcome).
One good thing, the theater will be surrounded by attic space above and on three sides and the control room on the fourth side. There will be access to get beneath the raised floor from the bottom of the control room. So it should be an easy matter to run lines for any future upgrades. Still, I would like to install pre-wire during construction for as many possibilities as I can imagine just to avoid having to deal with it in the future so all pre-wire suggestions are much appreciated.
Thanks for posting such an informative video!
Thanks, here is an updated room tour ruclips.net/video/PBuHLgGkfV4/видео.html
Good video man! Another note just rented Midway from red box guys and the LFE in that movie was RIDICULOUS!!!!! I've never heard my HSU hit so hard and low. Just wanted to put that out there for y'all. 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks, I recently saw a few people mentioning midway on some Facebook groups that I’m a part of. I might have to check that one out
@@Youthman Yes! Definitely worth the 2 dollars man. You can rent it in blu-ray of course not 4k but good enough.
Dolby Atmos is the greatest jump in Home Theater since we went from Dolby Pro logic to Dolby Digital. Hands down and maybe even bigger. I told that to a friend who has been on this journey with me for over the past 20 years, and after hearing me talk about it and my excitement over it, after about 2 weeks he upgraded also. After his first sit down he called me and said "man you were absolutely correct, Dolby Atmos is Amazing!". Don't think it is all about the overhead speakers either, because with Dolby Atmos every speaker is object-based and every speaker sounds clearer, more precise, bigger soundstage, and just all around dialed in. Simply Amazing! DTS:X is also great, but as of now I think the best bang per buck is Atmos
I agree with you. I love the format. Unfortunately not all sound mixers utilize its potential
Is there a reason why you’re not running Philips Hue or LIFX (or other alternatives) for your lighting setup?
I do not need to change colors for my main lights, or arch lights.
Awesome video, it’s funny people get intimidated buy custom home theatres but like you said you have the same problems other people have, as well myself, but making it sound amazing based on your limitations is what makes it worth it. I think the most intimidating thing for people is the cost for the audio equipment, they want what you have for a quarter of the price. Honesty hurts on that though because it will come through in the sound for them cheeping out on quality. I’m always honest with buddies about the cost because it’s real.
Thank you for the kind words Albert. One way to save some money is to buy quality used gear. I did that mostly over the past 10 years
no apologies needed on that 150 / 9ft - i only WISH i could have that. its perfect
Great video and Love the new lighting equipment! You’re looking sharp👍🏻✨
Thank you very much Clark. I Purchased new lighting and also purchased a Canon M6 MKII
Youthman oh nice!! congrats!! the M6 series is great! I have the mark 1!!
It all depends on if your eye sight is good and your hearing is good before spending money on impressive gear .
Ok, I want to go 7.1.2 or 7.1.4. This is my problem. The only good spots I have are at ear level (above my Sourrond speaker) and behind me (above my back surrounds). Should I just do the 2 or the 4? Is the panning from front to back and back to front in the ceiling that important? Thanks. Love your vids man.
Very informative video 😉👍
As for your heat issue, you can look into a in wall ac unit. I've seen some really nice ones, it's super quiet and the head unit is almost flush to the wall. It'll cool off your room with ease.
Thanks. I’ll check into it
@@Youthman Also look into any Minisplit A\C I have one does both heat and A\C in my detached garage 25x25x8 that is my Mancave 7.2.4 100 inch screen, FYI you dont have to get heat pump if you dont want , I did. I Live In Nebraska
Wonderful video! Definitely thoughts that are fresh in my mind since I just finished my theater room and definitely had to make some compromises due to existing space.
Awesome setup Youthman!
I just installed the 4 height speakers to round out the 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos.
Totally agree with you on the Logitech Harmony, smart lights (Hue) and voice control (Google Home)
We are upper entry level with the Denon AVRx4500H + additional 2ch Unity 2x100w Amp all driving KEF UniQ bookshelf speakers and a pair of CerwinVega 10" subs.
All setup in a relatively small living room. Sound is great, TV is ok with DX800 65" ...plan to upgrade to 65" or 77" OLED.
Anyway it's been a fun project.
Love to go the next level such as your Movie room.
Really liked watching what you created in your home.
Thank you Steve. Sounds like you have a fantastic set up yourself
I think the imperfection of your Room is the thing that makes your room actually your room and makes it special. There is a Channel from Germany thats called Grobi.TV and they are professionally building Home Cinemas on another level. Im talking about building a room into a room with massive accoustic threatment. And mostly the speakers are hidden. I actually like it that the speakers are visible. I got a 7.2.8 Setup in my cinema which switches between Auro 3D and Atmos (in German there isnt so much atmos content like in English. So i have to go for Auro3D very often.)
But if you got so many speakers it looks fantastic. Most people get blown away seeing whats possible nowadays. And thats not even the maximum. Technically you could go up to 32 Speakers with the Trinnov at DTS.X Pro . I mean thats amazing!
But i like how you managed your Beamer . Its not in the same room. The Beamer makes the most noise i think and generates the most heat i bet. Having it in another room is the best thing. In my cinema its the opposite of yours. I got the av and everything in a seperate room and the beamer in the same room ... Do you know when you are going for the JVC? Kinda interested in your thoughts about this beamer. I mean ive already got the Sony VPL VW 270ES which also costs 5000 but im not as happy as i could be with it. Id like to have a laser projector but they mostly dont have 4k and 3D under 10k.
Love your videos keep up the work!
You should try the Roomie Remote system. App controlled whole home control. Cheap and works great.
I'm an HVAC tech and I believe ductless mini split would be simplest solution to your air flow needs, make it a heat pump for heating, you can go wall mounted, ceiling hung or recessed ceiling for the indoor unit, and their whisper quiet.
Thank you for the info! Might have to look into that. Probably much less expensive than adding a 2nd AC unit for two rooms.
@@Youthman especially if you DIY, which I normally would not recommend, but with systems with precharged lines like from Mr. Cool, totally possible.
What is this mini split thing I keep seeing being mentioned and how/ where do I buy it? Is it hard to install?
what is the lapel mike you are using, sounds great
My home theater is the BEST room in my house! My wife even likes it, which confirms that notion
Awesome!
I enjoy a lot your vídeos. Have you talked in the past about transducers like the butkickers ?
Thank you. I have not reviewed any transducers yet but have experienced them in a few other home theaters.
You're doing a great job Yootman !! Btw, I've always had to deal with whatever leftovers the the contractors give me in terms of HVAC and plumbing obstructions, so speaker placement many times ends up sketchy at best, BUT.......the end result after tuning always amazes me leaving me to believe it isn't as critical as we think....I've even done systems with everything in the ceiling and if you use the correct drivers the results will impress...
I was at Excision the other night in PiXsburgh, he was running 48x18 on floor across front...that's another story 😆😂🤣
Wow that would be impressive 😀
have you considered getting rid of the ceiling speakers and using elevation speakers high on the walls or having metal poles in the ceiling mounting the SVS elevation speakers on those.. instead? Such as the SVS Elevation speakers. Youthman
No, my in-ceiling speakers sound fantastic for Atmos. No need to change them out at this point.
Heartbroken 😟 😭
I thought Youthman's system was perfect like perfect
Haha Sorry to disappoint
@@Youthman all good 😆, I know in the next video you will tell us how you fixed all issues 😉
HELLO YOUTHMAN , THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO . I REALLY LIKE YOUR HOME THEATER BUT LIKE I TOLD SOMEONE IN THE COMMENTS IT IS NOT PERFECT . WE HAVE TO BE LIKE OUR FRIEND GENE FROM AUDIOHOLICS ( HUMBLE ,ALLWAYS SHOW THE REAL FACTS AND HONEST REVIEWS ) . HAVE A GREAT WEEK AND KEEP LISTENING 👂 🔊😁🙏🏻🎼!
@Youthman Hey Im curious about your acoustically transparent screen. Have you not noticed any moire affects on it? Also, do you have a link to the fabric you purchased?
Hey Josh, here is the link - youthmanreviews.com/about/
Also, here is a recent video where I talk about the screen - ruclips.net/video/qowMP583_Vk/видео.html
Youthman your sponsor pitch for Klipsch is too long... it would be better if you halfed that.
ive just fitted a starscape ceiling.do you not fancy one of those?.looks great with the LED's around the side too..
I’ve only seen one and it was ok. Not really my thing
Thanks for a great video. If the left door cannot open anyways, why not just put the rear surrounds on the door that doesn't open anyways? It also looks like you have more foot room than you need in the rear seats?
That door is a hollow door so I would imagine that speaker would shake quite a bit on that door if I mounted it to it. Also it would look weird having a speaker mounted directly to a door LOL
When I recline the rear seats, the foot rest touches the back of the head rest of the front row so I do not have any option of moving those seats any closer to the front row
@@Youthman yes, I see :)
Youthman...hello my friend,yes you are right ...i just got the delivery of 2 s3612 ipal subwoofers and man i had problems ....for one thing the mini dsp did not let those beast work from the very beginning they work after i remove the mini dsp 2x4hd,but wait it gets worst my receiver pioneer sc 55 stop working within minutes, lucky i had a yamaha rxv367 on standby,but youth man those psa 3612 ipal are my dream...i am over the road right now and i am thinking of them...
Going to work on getting the denon 8500h and put ceiling speakers, hope you and the family are doing well thks for all you do.
That’s awesome. Congrats on the new subs
Wonderful wonderful wonderful well put together video about your home theaters and about your set up I love all ur video Because we are klipsch brothers because I have all klipsch speakers too also😄😄👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you D Van
My screen is 2.35:1 and 115”. Seating is 12 ft away. I can’t imagine going any larger, particularly not for scope content. To each his own…
Question can you give me your opinion about Kaleidescape. I have a great DVD collection over 4000 was looking at Kaleidescape‘s vault as well as Purchasing 2 TB servers
Hey Youthman. How do you position four dolby atmos speakers with two rows of seats ( six chairs in total)? My room size is 19×15.
Hi When you say your chairs are 9ft from the screen do you mean the space between your screen and the very front end of your chair is nine feet or are you talkin about where the backing of your seat is when is extended
The 9’ that I reference is the distance from my eyes are from the screen in my normal reclined position when watching a movie..
Simple question: Bluetooth connection can pass through Dolby ATMOS or the only connection is the HDMI cable connection? I know that Bluetooth just support stereo sound but the BestBuy technicians hooked up my friend’s LG TV that supports ATMOS to his YAMAHA receiver that decodes ATMOS using the Bluetooth connection between both. I don’t believe that technician knows the difference between stereo, Dolby Surround, DTSX or Dolby ATMOS.
Mike, you could add a mini split A/C system in there. I have installed one in my garage, one of those DIY systems from HD(~$1200) and it has been great(!). Super silent(~28dB) and gives heat as well. Did I mention, that it is smart as well(has a Wi-Fi dongle and an app). Extra hose is in the attic.
Interesting I’ll have to look into it thanks
@@Youthman MrCool is the brand. They sell 120V system. That is what I have for my garage(will be the theater room/man cave). Though you will have to drill a 3.5" hole in the wall. I'm not sure, if you would want to do that. Maybe an insert in the sliding door?!
Mike, I have another question for you. Do you use the equalizer presets in a receiver? There is a point in using those? I have an Onkyo receiver(TX-TZ730).
My advice to first-timers is be aware a North American power outlet will typically give you about 1500 Watts power, in Europe it’s about double that. 1500W is not enough to run a Dolby Atmos set up without clipping or other potential damage to your AVR or speakers at full volume. Call an electrician for a dedicated power supply! My second tip is be careful with HDMI cables - they can be easily damaged by frequent plugging and unplugging and if the pins get bent they may fry your circuit board..
I run a dedicated 20 amp for all of my equipment. Works perfect for my 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos system. I shared about it here ruclips.net/video/4Emq8cTYQ3Q/видео.html
Hey man I loved your honesty...be blessed...
Thanks
I use tall towers on the floor. In the back of my room, and the surround sounds good sitting next to them surprisingly. I would still rather have them like you do, but I wonder if that makes a difference with space hearing them.
Towers would be great, I just definitely do not have the room for towers for surrounds
Youthman, I am in framing of our remodel. unfort, my media room area is similar in dimensions to yours. but my back is open.
would you kindly share the cabinet drawing plans? I would like to work off of them to design something similar - but without the columns and the front top decorative piece - gonna go with something and trying to stay in a budget. much appreciated.
Hey Ben, unfortunately there are no plans. My friend designed and built the cabinet pretty much in his head. He’s literally the smartest person I know. The only thing we had to work off of was google sketch up that he designed just so he could show me what he was envisioning in his head
Using the same speaker as center, what you use as left and right might work with those La Scalas..but would you recommend to a normal floor standing speaker as center? Isn't it a kind of "waste of speaker" to use for example Klipsch RP 8000F as center because there is two 8" woofers and what i have understood, there is not that much bass coming from center channel? Or am i wrong..?
Anytime you use a horizontal center, it’s a compromise. I’m not saying they sound bad, it just sounds better with a floorstanding speaker. The La Scala’s or floorstanding speakers as well