Having just built a home theater, I completely agree with all of your points. Couple more pointers: 1) With theater seating, I discovered that I missed some of the benefits of a couch like laying down or cuddling with my wife. Consider this when choosing your seating. 2) Access to your components is essential. You might think you can simply set and forget but if you are a home theater enthusiast, you will want to tinker with different connections and will need access to troubleshoot problems which invariably arise. On this same point, you will need some kind of light to see the back of your components when you are connecting or checking cables. I keep a flashlight on hand although this isn’t really ideal. 3) Much of the movie theater decor (e.g. action figures, movie posters, sports memorabilia, popcorn maker) may seem fun but I suspect most will find it a bit gimmicky in the long run. I think it makes more sense to decorate so that the theater serves as a multifunctional living space. 4) In keeping with the last point, I think having a light which serves as a reading light is important. The recessed can lighting really doesn’t serve this purpose very well. 5) Storage is important. You will need a place to put your Blu-rays and DVDs and we use a wicker basket to store blankets and remotes. 6) Heat management is important. I have a custom credenza which is completely open in the back but I still needed to use fans to cool my components. I like Aircom which are USB powered, they are temperature activated and are almost completely silent. 7) Music (at least for me) is an important part of my home theater. Having the media credenza provides me a place for a turntable and CD player as well as a place to put my records and CDs. 8) More power! I had the good fortune to install 2 sets of 20 Amp circuits on the viewing wall with 2 sets of 4 sockets. The electrician was a moron and argued with me but fortunately I prevailed and am thankful for it. One regret is that I didn’t have the sockets placed higher than the standard distance off the floor. Why is it a good idea to make people bend over every time you plug something into a wall socket? 8) More outlets! If you have the option, put sockets everywhere including the floor. I love the floor outlet along with a power strip hidden behind the theater seats for my reading lamp, a digital picture frame and for phone chargers. 9) Lastly, be prepared for some disappointment with your kids, especially teenagers. Rarely will they sit down and watch a movie as a family. The best we can expect is that they will watch something with their friends but even this is not very often. Anyhow, hope this helps and thank you for a great video.
Agree completely with your seating comment. In my view, conventional theater seating is the most anti-social possible. Impossible to socialize with friends or family when performance is over and as a result totally reduces the time and duration of use.
Hey dude you probably wont see this but being the eldest son in the house(19) im the resident Movie and theatre enthusiast and me and my brother (12) watch movies with our parents pretty much every other night!
Hey bro love what your doing, I think the advice you give based own your own experience and mistakes you you felt you made, really helps to understand home theater. I will lookforard to your future thoughts and advise. Happy viewing.
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@Oran Clay My girl would :D Once I came home and she was watching movie with friends and they somehow managed to turn the 5.1 off and turn projector speakers on OMG !!!
Regarding seating, our oldest teenage daughter really enjoyed the theater with so many of her friends. It was well worth it having them over all the time :) Great video!
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Ive been watching a lot of youtube lately especially regarding home theater. I appreciate the honest review on what you could do better. Most are practically bragging about their set up. You were honest. Well done and thanks!
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I really like your honest opinion on your ten things to look out for. and also you didn’t bash any products as well. well done. As a fan of Home theatre and a one man installer I given you two thumbs up
Thank you :) My aim was to share my mistakes for people like me who were new to the hobby. I've learned a lot since I made this video, indeed, I've completely redone my theater :) Thanks for commenting!
I love it when people are amped about milestones, like reaching 1k subs, and then looking down at their subs, you see that they have far exceeded their goals, brings tears to my eyes, my fellow hoomans.
Great advice. I am on my 3rd home theater system. I built my 1st in 1996. I used M&K Center, mains and Sub with Wharfdales for rear and front presence. I had cables going everywhere. When we remodeled the house I was sure i had it this time. I put in conduit with pull through ropes so I could run my cables later. I setup 10 power outlets on the rear wall. The conduit was not big enough for the additional cables and power needs. On my 3rd rebuild I ran larger conduit for the speaker cables and separate conduit for the power due to crosstalk interference. As I am close the the sea, my equipment suffers and the mother boards deteriorate to failure in about 8 years. This is my last rebuild. I have learnt how to cut strips out of the plasterboard to lay cables and then patch the plaster later. I now have 24 power points in the room! I am 74 years old and I remember our house in a country town that had 3 power points in the whole house! And yes, I seem to watch movies alone, and my classic music collection is also listened to alone. I now only buy sound equipment that can be networked and controlled with an app via the home network. One important thing if you go to conduit and pull through rope. When you pull a speaker cable or power cable through always pair another pull through rope to that cable.
Peter Andrews this is great feedback. I wish I’d known about this for sure before building and now I’m paying for it especially as it’s a double story I can’t get between floors to drop cables. So it’s expensive work getting an electrician in.
Great advice. Especially number one. Another is to get two dedicated powerlines. People get twin subs and 10+ channels but then lack the “juice” to power them
Completely agree! Since this video, I have come a long way in the learning journey - My room now has Artnovion panels with diffusion and absorption, as well as Vicoustic absorbers behind my acoustic curtains - star ceiling made from acoustic pinboard - it makes the room sound how it should sound... Updated room tour coming on my channel for my latest 9.4.6 setup :)
I’ve gone in the opposite direction. I now have a simple Yamaha Soundbar with the included Sub. It’s not a hifi, but I like minimalism and simplicity with no wires everywhere!
When you see home theater setups in magazines or tour videos they are often huge and designed for tons of guests. Those things are amazing, but that's just not everyone's lifestyle. It was great to see your labor of love and how you're maximizing the experience for the reality of how your setup gets used, not the original fantasy of how it might be used. I sympathized with your 2-story wiring limitations. My theater space is in an existing finished basement. I am seriously considering just ripping out the drywall, running all the wires I might ever need, and then putting new drywall back on. Either that, or just run sound absorbing curtains all around and run all the wires behind that.
My next place if i end up moving I'll be ripping the walls down and doing it properly from day one :D My room has changed a lot since this video though.
You are a man after my own heart, I've built a similar theatre and plan to make a video showing it off. There are always compromises you have to make, and lessons hard learnt. Great to see an Aussie showing off his set up, and sharing the passion. Very impressive. If you are bothered about the subwoofer and riser situation, I highly recommend building your own subwoofer enclosures, like I did. I got the design for some infrasonic enclosures, known as the wolfhorn SDX and built my riser around two of these monster enclosures measuring 2100x1000x350, which gave my an ideal height for my rider of around 400mm, let alone the bass which pops doors open downstairs at about 60% volume on a 3000w behringer amp. Great project and no matter how much I talk them up to friends, when they feel 16hz, they giggle like children!
Excellent video, this is exactly the type of information I wish I had seen before building my dedicated Home Theatre room around 8 years ago! You make some very important points that I could relate to as I watched your video. In particular; Putting your A/V rack outside the room - I didn't and I can say it definitely makes my room very hot, meaning we are always running the air con in there even on a mild day. Seat placement and adding a riser - I also wish I made my riser higher, it's only around 30cm high. As you mentioned, we also need the front seats reclined a little to get the best view. Also we have 5 seats (designed for the wife & I + 3 kids), yet 90% of the time it's just the wife and I watching alone 😂😂 Speaker points - I got the placement right, however, I didn't allow enough cable to protrude through the wall when running the cable. I've now realised my side & rear surrounds are slightly too high up the wall and I would like to lower them by approx 50cm, but I can't do this easily as I made the speaker cable too short. Lesson learned, speaker cable is relatively cheap so always run more than you need. Lighting - Just like you I originally thought Theatre Rooms are meant to be really dark right? It wasn't until the room was completed that I realised I didn't give the lighting anywhere near enough thought and had dark pockets all around the room. It was an expensive exercise to pay an electrician to come out and retrofit new wiring throughout the ceiling and install lights where I actually needed them. Budget - This is the clincher! I had absolutely no idea how expensive this room would be. Even now, it's a work in progress so it's still costing me a small fortune. As a Home Theatre enthusiast, I agree that it's really important to set some kind of budget at the outset, but also consider how some equipment seems to constantly change year after year as technology evolves (yes AV Receivers, I'm looking at you 😜) So also consider the cost of upgrading aging A/V equipment if you want to keep up with the latest technology. All said and done, It's an incredibly immersive and enjoyable hobby, and thoroughly worth the investment. Well done for making a interesting and informative video 👏 Jason (another Home Theatre enthusiast and fellow Sydney sider) Subbed to your channel.
Hey Jase, thanks for taking the time to make a detailed comment! It sounds like you experienced some of the pitfalls I did! Great to hear from another local as well :) Would love to know more about your theater room setup as not many that I connect with on this platform are locals. Again thanks for reaching out and glad it entertained you somewhat sharing in a familiar situation.
@@BuildMontage No probs! I was excited to see a local on here too, I'm always looking for Theatre Room videos but most people seem to be in the USA. I put up a Theatre Room Tour video on my channel about a week ago, you can check it out on my channel or here is the link ruclips.net/video/z4wYC76CuSg/видео.html I made the video in response to my posts on Instagram. Quite a few people saw my room pics and messaged me asking if I would make a full RUclips video...so I thought why not? It's a little amatuer, and the editing isn't great but hopefully I'll get better at it over time. This is my 1st RUclips video and I can now really appreciate how much effort goes into making a video - I had no idea :) Anyway, thanks for the reply and I'd be happy to chat again!
some decent points, but some are a bit off. 1. the front L and R don't face the seating they face sidewalls left to right and right to left. Too get it correct you sit in your seat while sliding a mirror on the wall until you see the cone of the speakers. Then that is where you put sound diffusers. 2. sound dampening insulation is actually counter productive too the speaker sound quality. Since the sound hits the wall and its absorbed. typically you smash a ton of screws around where you have speakers to stop the vibration transfer. 3. If you go in-wall once again smash tons of screws in the room and out. Also do not mount them into insulation. 3. Klipsh actually isn't that great they are basically like bose or sonos, if you want to spend money on towers something like tannoy would be much better than box store brand. 4. he never covered the importance for types of screens for rooms or projectors, yes speakers are important but these 2 are a huge make or break. I always recommend spending around 15k on equipment (this is middle tier not high end). This guy does have a half decent grasp on the basics but, not all
I love my home theater i started with sony and dell projector and ended up with all klipsch and polk subs 135" elite screen and a 4k epson projector dolby atmos 11.2 with a denon and holy smokes best investment ever i must say though size is a huge role i had to end up building a whole other room just for 18x26 for this setup well worth it and yes it can expensive so quick thank you for this great video
Great video!!! I’ve had no luck in finding more info on things I should know before my house gets built and when I started hearing about your experiences, this video went straight into my saved folder. Thanks for all your insight!!
If you only need 10mm for an in-wall just build a spacer. It can be just the size of the speaker, be full height like a column detail. Anything really. Food for thought.
Agreed that can be done. I’m going for something different now. All Krix speakers Symmetrix in walls and MX-10 front sound stage and Atmospherix A20 in ceiling. Latest video on my channel explains the upgrade
Ouch! I can only imagine spending all this time and money into a theater and then just have my kids go off on their phones instead of enjoying movie time with the family. I built my theater and we have family movie nights every Friday. I feel for you brother!
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The ones in the video are Klipsch RP-150m however I have a whole more set of speakers coming if you check out my latest video. Krix MX-10 which are a wall of sound.
Wow!!! Just wow. I would definately come over to your place for a unique movie experience with my wife and pay more than gold class at Hoyts. Well done mate. My requirements are a lot more tame and ameratish and I don't have a dedicated room, but I respect the effort and time you put in to telling people like me how to avoid the pitfalls in setting up. Good on you! You have taught me, thank you mate.
always buy stuff in stages. Speakers haven't really changed in design for decades. .. I also can't get over the fact that sound is much improved with sound treatment.. using acoustic panels. I've also got dedicated subwoofer foam under my sub and it's so much better. All you get is bass directly from the sub and room doesn't rattle as a result. Also put similar foam under the main speakers it just cuts out all the vibrations.
With the exception of subwoofers. Decades ago they weren't even available to the average "hi-fi" consumer. Then compare the first generations to what's available today and the difference is pretty big.
Great video. I am in the earliest stage of building my theater where I have the opportunity to address all of these issues. You’ve been helpful. Thank you!
One of the best videos I’ve seen how to Build a Home theatre explains how it’s kind of like A will I will say it’s like a bruised orange you might not get the juice that you were looking for but sometimes you gotta work around that and Expect a little bit of disappointment and I like how you explain this in your video grate work I love the video man 2 👍👍
This was a great video Sir. I have spent the better part of a year planning the upgrade of my own room the education required to successfully achieve my goal. You hit all of the points necessary & thank you for sharing this portion if your personal journey…
One thing to mention - Make use of the used market! I've rarely owned any new AV Home Theater gear and I am now running 7.2.4 atmos using Paradigm Studio 60 v3's, cc590 v4 and marantz monoblocks thru a denon x3600h. The used market is where you save a lot!
As soon as I graduate I am planning on pairing 2 HomePods through Apple TV 4K to my Epson 5050ub projector. And paint the room dark and then get a little acoustic treatment and call it a day. Those HomePods essentially have 2 subwoofers. And they are so good for a small theater room for me at least.
I always wanted a home theater but never had one. Many times I visited a lot of my friends, their theaters and a whole lot of things. But after sometime of watching in it, especially since watching Interstellar movie I realized one things : Scenario 1 : Watching Interstellar on IMAX. It was mind blowing. I forgot I was in theater. Scenario 2 : Watching The Dark Knight at my friend's Home Theater. It was Mind blowing and I forgot I was in his home. Scenario 3 : Watching Dunkirk in my Phone, just when about to go to bed. It didn't make a damn difference. All the scenarios induced same amount of indulgence into the movie. So, unless you are going to watch a movie multiple times i.e. more than 2 or 3 times, all these set ups are not worth it. Honestly, as we grow in age, we rarely find time to even have a chat with friends. Only pleasure that we are going to get out of all this is actually in building things up and finishing the setup than actually enjoying the setup. After a few initial gimmicks we forget where the sound is coming from. The same is with my 3D TV too. It wasn't worth all the extra money. Now, I just watch movies on my Monitor with Dolby atmos app on windows 10, Netflix/Prime, and a pair of Sony bluetooth normal headphones and a pretty ordinary chair. It doesn't make a damn difference of any of the multimedia set up, because I realized *It is the movie that matters not how you see it *. Sure it enhances the experience and makes it memorable, but most of the times those memories are lost after the first couple of movies of experiencing it. I realized how it is the seating position and its comfort that decides how much you are going to enjoy a movie even if it is in 2.0. Someday I will get a home theater like this. Until then I envy all the people like you.
The biggest difference is when you rewatch a good movie on a WORSE setup. Then it feels really bad, because you wait for those awesome moments and they are so much less powerful than what you remembered and it's just sadness... I think it happens more with audio than visuals. With visuals, as you said, I can forget about the screen as long as the effective field of view is similar (IMAX FOV can be achieved even with a tablet if you put it close to face...)
Couldn't disagree more - it makes a huge difference. Watching a movie like the 3 you list is a completely different experience in a theater than phone, computer, or even on a regular TV w/o a hi-fi set up. Yes the story is the same, but the experience is not comparable. The difference is, some people don't find value in the overall experience so investing in a room isn't a priority.
Great Advice and so true. I am currently buidling a dedicated home theater in my dedicated room that was built for it. Another great advice would be to join a community like AVS forums to get others opinions and ideas and doing research. I did so much research for months, all I could do is think about home theater but still I am learning. I am glad I am done with sound proofing walls and ceiling with double drywall, green glue, sound clips, hat channels.. etc.. SO tired but maybe one day I will put up some pictures tho I wish i documented it more but then it takes alot of time as well to do so.. Anyways great channel!
Chase023 hey there. Thanks for the comments. Why not jump on our Discord? Links in the description. Lots of chatter and people discussing all things home theater!
I grew up with a very nice klipch audio powered theater room but my parents went with what looked like a very small 60in plasma tc at the time which was literally 6 grand.. its crazy now how you can get quiet a nice 720P projector for really really cheap and it looks better then an old plazma and larger. I have a veryh budget apartment home theatre in comparison but have got everything very equally complimenting to one another with only my sound system a bit more overspent on then the rest of the theater but i personally believe sound is more important as it has the power to really bring you into the show and you all of a suddenly forget that you are only watching in 1080p. My optoma projector costed $1500 3 years ago and now you can get fairly nice 4k projectors for that money... glad i spent more of my budget on sound over picture because I can still upgrade my picture without needing to upgrade sound except adding another subwoofer when we do have our own house.
as someone who just started going down the audiophile rabbit hole all because family bought me a schiit audio DAC for my birthday this video was great!
I am wanting to convert our music rooom into a cinema room. 1) Cost/Budget - How Much Does It Cost To Set Up A Home Theater? - on a pretty low budget 2) Speaker points - was just going for a few bose speakers 3) Subwoofer placement - got only one. 4) Number of speakers you must consider this prior - was going for the old school quadraphonic choice. 5) AV Rack - which room to put it in? I thought the video projector had this built in?? 6) How many seats you want to have in the space and placement - was just going to use bean bags if I can find them in france !! 7) Acoustic panels - ceiling all sorted with timber frame supports seperated with rubber spacers. Room in basement. Door with solid insulation + blanket. 8) Lighting Plan - no problem with spot lights & long LED cable around the floor corners. 9) Power - Very lucky I put a triple socket set on the back wall and another side wall. 10) Speaker choices - I gues I can add more if required. Thanks for all your advice - a lost west aussie trying to set up a home cinema in France with the language barrier as well...
Excellent advice. Love the candor. I am building a new home for me and the wife. Kids are grown and gone, one granddaughter. This home is strictly for us! Dream home and retirement home and if visitors come, that'll be nice. LOL! I'm now a subscriber! Keep up the good work!
Great Video. I have a 7.2.6 theater and yes it gets very expensive and things I didnt think about which can kill your sound. I have all Klipsch Reference speakers and didnt think of how much sound I was loosing, so then came sound management which added up to lol alot. The difference between having an Av receiver and then going to seperated added and enormous amount. It is very very costly to say the least but I do enjoy it, But one thing you really said that hit me also was I built my theater when my kids were all in High School and we were the house to be at on Friday nights for movies or whatever , mostly XBOX live, but now they are all grown and its mostly me and my wife and usally just me in the room, So It seems a bit overkill for me now but I still enjoy it like the first day I built it. Keep up the great work. And Good day mate. The one thing that wasn't and option when I built it was 100 inch Sony Tv's, And as of today they are 20 grand which i wouldnt even think about but when you add up what a great projector cost and a screen to match it, it runs over that and you just cant compare the picture to the sony bravia line.
You just talked me out of a home theater. It’s still seems cool, but I’m not enough of an enthusiast to spend the time and money on this. Thank you for outlining the process for an ideal setup.
I never thought it was proper to put one sub in the front and the other in the back part of a room. I always thought it was either both in front or back. I am glad you mentioned this because my room only has the space for 1 sub in the back (due to door). This way, I can possibly put one there and another in the front like you did and have double subs. Thanks for your information.
For room correction, I hung 34 blackout drapery panels around my 14.5' W x 19' L room. Very minimal reflections. I have a 7.1.4 system. Yamaha RX-Z11 receiver. One sub & one I-Beam VT-300 transducer in my seating platform riser.
@@BuildMontage I've laid all of my speaker wiring along the top of the drapery hardware keeping it off of the floor. I just bought from Walmart.com about $790.00 US.
Excellent points, another ones I see people failing big time at are: 11. Getting a screen that doesn't go wall to wall. Even if you have a massive screen on a massive wall, it will still look small if it doesn't get close to the edges. That's something Youthman did right, that's one of the many reasons why his theater is so good. When the screen only covers the center of the wall, it will always look smaller than it actually is, and it loses that cinema effect we all are after. 12. Getting surrounds that don't match the fronts. People get these massive front speakers, but put very tiny surrounds, and as a result the sound becomes completely unbalanced. If the camera moves, you are not supposed to notice any difference between the sound coming from your surrounds than your fronts, or the center channel. Your surrounds should always be able to keep up with the fronts. A lot of home theaters are trash because of this.
I think the problem is throw. Unless you go ultra short throw some rooms just do not have the space to do wall to wall. Wish some of the big boy projectors had some bigger zooms.
@@salttrader4113 That's definitely a real point, a lot people just don't have the choice. That also applies to the surrounds thing, it also happens a lot, and often it is because of the room's size, some people can't properly separate the speakers at equal distances because of their room's limitations.
What a valuable video! But I have a little problem... Budget! What do you recommend once I have a extremely tight budget regarding U$1.900,00 to spend. Option number one : A brand new home theater in-a-box Onkyo Ht-s7800 or option number two : A second-hand marantz (middle 2000's) plus a brand new setup klipsch floorstanding speakers+center speaker+surround speakers+subwoofer? In your opinion, what is the best choice? I appreciate if you could replie me.
I agree wholeheartedly on your advise to pre-run enough wires to upgrade as much as you possibly can. It's a huge pain to run wires once you have the walls and ceilings finished.
I am new to this so please forgive my ignorance... I have an Onkyo 7.1 system but I'm thinking of changing to the Klipsch speakers like you have for my new HT in my new house. Will they work with this receiver and I'm not sure what you need an amplifier for. Thank you for your help :)
@@BuildMontage www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR444-7-1-Channel-V-Receiver/dp/B00WSECTYQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=onkyo+txsr444&qid=1589844296&sr=8-1 and I use the speakers that came with it. But I'm looking at the speakers you suggested and didn't know if I needed a new receiver too.
Excellent video, thank you! I have a basement in which I want to build a theater room. I just purchased an 85" TV and now need to compliment that with a Dolby Atmos speaker system. Your suggestions have helped. My question is: I have a server that is storing my movies in a separate room and there is a HTPC which actually processes the movies for playback. The basement has a drop ceiling where I can install CAT 6 and speaker wiring as I wish. I want to get the best sound and video to the TV and amplifier. The TV has the media app I need to play my movies. For best sound and audio do I just connect CAT 6 from the network switch to the TV and then HDMI through the ARC and call it good? Or do I need to have the HTPC within 3m of the amplifier for the HDMI video and audio processing? So it's - movies on NAS -> processed and served by HTPC -> sent to TV via CAT 6 -> audio processed through amplifier. Is that a good setup to get the best audio and video? Or should it be movies on NAS -> processed and served by HTPC -> HDMI out from HTPC to amplifier -> ARC to TV?
If you still thinking about klipsch in wall you could extend your wall out and it would look like columns just a thought. I used bookshelf speakers for my atmos using heavy duty ceiling brackets and it was like night and day compared to the inceiling speakers I originally had .
If you’re still intent on using Klipsch in-wall speakers, considering building a frame for the speakers that would add depth, lifting them away from the wall. Of course they wouldn’t be flush but it’s an option.
Thanks that is something Im considering if I cant fit them in. I'm looking at the Klipsch THX 8000-L.. not 100% decided but considering that as a top contender
Great stuff i'm currently building in Perth my room is 5.5 m X 6.1 m . It is single story so i think i have a lot more room for errors than yourself however the detail you have gone into has really made me re think what i will be doing as i want to build the setup myself as much as possible so thanks for the advise i'm now subbed and will be watching a lot more of the videos
Awesome! Jump on our Discord server if you like as we can chat more about it - lots of people onboard, even had another WA member join today :) Link is in the description!
Yes, I still haven't got mine in yet but that's because I'm upgrading the whole room and I'll put those in once its all painted up and new speakers are in. I'm building two diffusers for the back wall
Great video.... Monitor Audio is a HUGE upgrade from the Klipsch so even though you had your heart set on Klipsch, you ended up getting a better speaker. IMO.
Thankfully I'm single level over here in NZ , had pipes in the walls for future proofing for when I want to add or move cables , that's also a good thing if building a new house..and having a theater room
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I'm an IT guy and this is really sound advice. The best way to make upgrades easier and cheaper is to run conduit. Even just one big one that goes from front to back in the ceiling or floor will save loads down the road. Make sure to pull a new drawstring with the cable every time you pull new cable. Conduit adds some cost initially, but it is the best way to deal with concerns of being able to upgrade down the road, and everybody should be concerned about that.
I just found your channel and love it. Great job on explaining the needs/wants in building a home theater. I am slowly rebuilding my surround system and will be tuning in to your channel for more great videos. I purchased the Denon AVR-S750H and I'm starting to buy some Klipsh speakers. My first Klipsh purchase is the Klipsh Ref R-34C (Center Speaker). Soon to come- Klipsh R-625FA, R-100SW, RP-502S. Planning for a 5.1.2 Atmos theater. Keep up the good work! Thanks.
Bob Nelson awesome choices there with your setup! Love Klipsch:) keep in touch as I’d love to see your progress. I’m working on a subscriber special as well if you’re interested in sharing with th community.
lol re: the seating, i got friends who built a big house when they had teenage kids, and the kids all moved out within the year. Then they had a BIG EMPTY house.
I died laughing at #6. Isn't that how life goes. We plan to enjoy it with other people and at the end, we are watching movies alone full volume. Been there. Cheers!
@@BuildMontage Question for you my friend. I have an unfinished basement to use as my playground (at least half truly thanks to the wife) Should the room be added to my existing ventilation system? Or does that defeat the purpose of soundproofing the room as you did? I want to keep it fresh but not have too much sound escape.
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Great advice and nice job on prodcution! I wish I saw your video a few months ago, as I just built my home with a dedicated home theatre. I had the same forced choice for bookshelf speakers, one set of ceiling prewires & outlet isses. At least I got a few things right from the beginnning! Cheers from Houston TX
It's a tough pill to swallow when you realise it's not the best setup, but I managed to turn it all around and have actually rebuilt my theater since this video. I have a few videos on it but haven't done the tour yet as I need to do the acoustic treatment to finish it all off
sorry for all the planning troubles youve experienced. glad youre working your way toward what you really want. HT is an expensive but very rewarding endeavor. in your growth, im interested to see if you move beyond Klipsch. B&W, Monitor Audio & Paradigm all have great in wall speakers. as your heart leans to Klipsch, i lean _hard_ toward B&W. i have CT8.4 LCR & CWM7.3 for bed channels. CCM7.3 for Atmos all powered by ATI class A/B amps. gives me a thrill every time i walk in the room. best wishes. love your truthful transparency.
@@BuildMontage , i did just find a more recent vid. congrats....those Krix look much more immersive. not familiar but ive read lots of happy reviews. enjoy
Buddy of mine has a state of the art dedicated home theater. We sit in my living room watching an Epson 2150 on a flat white crusty wall. With an old Yamaha RX-V361, Xbox one S, and a budget Klipsch 5.1 kit most of the time. He'll randomly bust out laughing about how much time and money he wasted. It's beautiful, and comfortable, but just not practical, and home-y. Mine is my only tv. Watch it all the time. So glad I seen, and stepped right over that rabbit hole.
@@BuildMontage Yes the absolute immersion with the audiophile sound, super dark blacks of the high end unit, and general awesome feel of the room is definitely incredible. A bit fiddly cranking it all up for just random netflix viewing but we do set aside certain movies for his place for sure. It's just weird how well my little ghetto theater works too tho. Maybe $1500US in the whole thing lol.
This is what my channels all about. No judgements, work with what you’ve got and whatever u can afford. As long as it makes you smile, that’s the main thing :)
@@BuildMontage Absolutely. My home theater is more of a throw together side project for winding down at night. But I definitely fell deep in a rabbit hole as far as my music studio, and guitar collection is concerned. I've got a small fortune in just cables lol. We all have our obsession. Hey! At least we're not in jail or something.
I built a house. Prewired everything. I built a recess into the side wall and house all the av equipment in there. I have just the screen and L C R speakers in front of me, no cabinet protruding into the room
Great job! I think you bring these things into the realm of understanding and possibilities for the average consumer-honest, direct, and very helpful information! I agree that comfort and practicality are major points for consideration. I have the exact same riser and seats and after 6 months I find myself wishing I had excluded the front row, or maybe used the space to better include my music hobbies. By the way, this is the first and only channel I’ve ever subscribed to and there are a lot of greats out there (I really like Youthman’s content too-think I’ll head over and “hit that subscribe button” next)!
Hi Kenneth, thank you so much for the feedback and the sub - I'm so close to my 1000 milestone, so thanks for joining the community! Youthman is an awesome guy, he's just as genuine as he appears in his videos - and one of my inspirations for starting this channel. Are you Australian? Just that you mentioned you had the same riser and chairs.
Pretty much - 125” acoustically transparent screen, and I wholeheartedly agree! Considering my room dimensions (16ft W X 19ft L) I was a little concerned initially (especially for the front row) but all viewing positions are great! Also, I have no doubt you’ll hit your milestone - you’re doing a great job!
The issue with two overhead is that it’s stuck in a single plane. Four speakers overhead allow for more blending of the sound between a larger space. I have 6 overhead and find that is really immersive. But two is better than none :)
Very informative; good lessons on planning in terms of setting up sound, power and equipment positioning. Appreciate your insight and straight talk; unfortunately, I have completed my home with no planning for a home theater, but I am planning to add one now. Thank you
Cheers my man uwere my 3rd video & gave me keym setup is best 4 me. .My VSX 1018 ah reciever paired with my new QN50Q60T 4K TV. Left me to decide if i even needed a soundbar ??? Luckily caution kept me from making 2 bad buys.. Youve takin it to a much higher level than i ever thought about.. And again koodos to you sir..i apply your tips & techniques to my living space . I would bet money ur video did what u wanted & thats to help others to think acouple xtra steps ahead to save money & raise quality. That was huge 4 me . Ur a gentleman & a scholar my friend.. Your good at it taboot.. if u read this & have any opinions or suggestions 4 me " i welcome any all"" Thanx Cheers!
Hi there, I hope it helped! I've learned a lot since I made this video as well, I'm almost ready to make PART II! Why not join our Discord server and ask some questions to the community? discord.gg/wvtvkaP
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So can you share how much it costed? And do some price video?
Having just built a home theater, I completely agree with all of your points. Couple more pointers:
1) With theater seating, I discovered that I missed some of the benefits of a couch like laying down or cuddling with my wife. Consider this when choosing your seating.
2) Access to your components is essential. You might think you can simply set and forget but if you are a home theater enthusiast, you will want to tinker with different connections and will need access to troubleshoot problems which invariably arise. On this same point, you will need some kind of light to see the back of your components when you are connecting or checking cables. I keep a flashlight on hand although this isn’t really ideal.
3) Much of the movie theater decor (e.g. action figures, movie posters, sports memorabilia, popcorn maker) may seem fun but I suspect most will find it a bit gimmicky in the long run. I think it makes more sense to decorate so that the theater serves as a multifunctional living space.
4) In keeping with the last point, I think having a light which serves as a reading light is important. The recessed can lighting really doesn’t serve this purpose very well.
5) Storage is important. You will need a place to put your Blu-rays and DVDs and we use a wicker basket to store blankets and remotes.
6) Heat management is important. I have a custom credenza which is completely open in the back but I still needed to use fans to cool my components. I like Aircom which are USB powered, they are temperature activated and are almost completely silent.
7) Music (at least for me) is an important part of my home theater. Having the media credenza provides me a place for a turntable and CD player as well as a place to put my records and CDs.
8) More power! I had the good fortune to install 2 sets of 20 Amp circuits on the viewing wall with 2 sets of 4 sockets. The electrician was a moron and argued with me but fortunately I prevailed and am thankful for it. One regret is that I didn’t have the sockets placed higher than the standard distance off the floor. Why is it a good idea to make people bend over every time you plug something into a wall socket?
8) More outlets! If you have the option, put sockets everywhere including the floor. I love the floor outlet along with a power strip hidden behind the theater seats for my reading lamp, a digital picture frame and for phone chargers.
9) Lastly, be prepared for some disappointment with your kids, especially teenagers. Rarely will they sit down and watch a movie as a family. The best we can expect is that they will watch something with their friends but even this is not very often.
Anyhow, hope this helps and thank you for a great video.
Agree completely with your seating comment. In my view, conventional theater seating is the most anti-social possible. Impossible to socialize with friends or family when performance is over and as a result totally reduces the time and duration of use.
You both made me feel like seeing your h.t. !
In switching down to a single row now. Will have an update video on that soon!
How long have you been married Ted? The cuddling with the wife will end when she hits the wall. The home theater room is for friends only.
Hey dude you probably wont see this but being the eldest son in the house(19) im the resident Movie and theatre enthusiast and me and my brother (12) watch movies with our parents pretty much every other night!
Its amazing how 90% of a movie theater is dedicated to audio.
Hey bro love what your doing, I think the advice you give based own your own experience and mistakes you you felt you made, really helps to understand home theater. I will lookforard to your future thoughts and advise. Happy viewing.
Yea I’m running into that now not cheap
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@Oran Clay My girl would :D Once I came home and she was watching movie with friends and they somehow managed to turn the 5.1 off and turn projector speakers on OMG !!!
@Oran Clay completely untrue. Everyone would watch a beautiful movie that was bad. I couldn't care less about audio.
Regarding seating, our oldest teenage daughter really enjoyed the theater with so many of her friends. It was well worth it having them over all the time :) Great video!
Ha! I have the same issues in my theater with my family as far as getting people together to watch a movie. I think I'm by myself 90% of the time.
Im looking at moving all of my HT seating to my upstairs lounge room and getting a 2 seater leather recliner for me and the wife and that's it..
Same here
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@@laurabrown6809 awesome idea, been wondering how I would close off my snack bar in my theatre room. Perfect solution.
Ive been watching a lot of youtube lately especially regarding home theater. I appreciate the honest review on what you could do better. Most are practically bragging about their set up. You were honest. Well done and thanks!
Thanks Charlie - it's a journey and I've learned a lot since that video!
Great advice for those considering a home theater! Love the channel brother. Keep up the great work. Appreciate the shout out as well.
Appreciate the kind words and support. I’d love to chat to you one day in person. Would make my day :)
@@BuildMontage Pay some dude thousands of dollars for wiring? You gotta do that yourself man.
W A it’s double story. Cannot do it as it’s between rooms with 240v power everywhere. No way I’m messing with that.
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I really like your honest opinion on your ten things to look out for. and also you didn’t bash any products as well. well done.
As a fan of Home theatre and a one man installer I given you two thumbs up
Thank you :) My aim was to share my mistakes for people like me who were new to the hobby. I've learned a lot since I made this video, indeed, I've completely redone my theater :) Thanks for commenting!
I love it when people are amped about milestones, like reaching 1k subs, and then looking down at their subs, you see that they have far exceeded their goals, brings tears to my eyes, my fellow hoomans.
Haha yep it’s crazy I never expected it that’s for sure :) just trying to help and share what I learn as I go!
Great advice. I am on my 3rd home theater system. I built my 1st in 1996. I used M&K Center, mains and Sub with Wharfdales for rear and front presence. I had cables going everywhere. When we remodeled the house I was sure i had it this time. I put in conduit with pull through ropes so I could run my cables later. I setup 10 power outlets on the rear wall. The conduit was not big enough for the additional cables and power needs. On my 3rd rebuild I ran larger conduit for the speaker cables and separate conduit for the power due to crosstalk interference. As I am close the the sea, my equipment suffers and the mother boards deteriorate to failure in about 8 years. This is my last rebuild. I have learnt how to cut strips out of the plasterboard to lay cables and then patch the plaster later. I now have 24 power points in the room! I am 74 years old and I remember our house in a country town that had 3 power points in the whole house! And yes, I seem to watch movies alone, and my classic music collection is also listened to alone. I now only buy sound equipment that can be networked and controlled with an app via the home network. One important thing if you go to conduit and pull through rope. When you pull a speaker cable or power cable through always pair another pull through rope to that cable.
Peter Andrews this is great feedback. I wish I’d known about this for sure before building and now I’m paying for it especially as it’s a double story I can’t get between floors to drop cables. So it’s expensive work getting an electrician in.
Great advice. Especially number one.
Another is to get two dedicated powerlines. People get twin subs and 10+ channels but then lack the “juice” to power them
Ive been install cinemas in both commercial and domestic for 20 years on and off. Acoustic panels are the most important part
Completely agree! Since this video, I have come a long way in the learning journey - My room now has Artnovion panels with diffusion and absorption, as well as Vicoustic absorbers behind my acoustic curtains - star ceiling made from acoustic pinboard - it makes the room sound how it should sound... Updated room tour coming on my channel for my latest 9.4.6 setup :)
I’ve gone in the opposite direction. I now have a simple Yamaha Soundbar with the included Sub. It’s not a hifi, but I like minimalism and simplicity with no wires everywhere!
My idea as well, then again not a sound enthusiast, never been interested in speakers.
When you see home theater setups in magazines or tour videos they are often huge and designed for tons of guests. Those things are amazing, but that's just not everyone's lifestyle. It was great to see your labor of love and how you're maximizing the experience for the reality of how your setup gets used, not the original fantasy of how it might be used. I sympathized with your 2-story wiring limitations. My theater space is in an existing finished basement. I am seriously considering just ripping out the drywall, running all the wires I might ever need, and then putting new drywall back on. Either that, or just run sound absorbing curtains all around and run all the wires behind that.
My next place if i end up moving I'll be ripping the walls down and doing it properly from day one :D My room has changed a lot since this video though.
You are a man after my own heart, I've built a similar theatre and plan to make a video showing it off. There are always compromises you have to make, and lessons hard learnt. Great to see an Aussie showing off his set up, and sharing the passion. Very impressive. If you are bothered about the subwoofer and riser situation, I highly recommend building your own subwoofer enclosures, like I did. I got the design for some infrasonic enclosures, known as the wolfhorn SDX and built my riser around two of these monster enclosures measuring 2100x1000x350, which gave my an ideal height for my rider of around 400mm, let alone the bass which pops doors open downstairs at about 60% volume on a 3000w behringer amp. Great project and no matter how much I talk them up to friends, when they feel 16hz, they giggle like children!
Hey mate thanks for commenting! Lots more videos to make! Custom subs are super cool. Is your room done?
Excellent video, this is exactly the type of information I wish I had seen before building my dedicated Home Theatre room around 8 years ago! You make some very important points that I could relate to as I watched your video. In particular;
Putting your A/V rack outside the room - I didn't and I can say it definitely makes my room very hot, meaning we are always running the air con in there even on a mild day.
Seat placement and adding a riser - I also wish I made my riser higher, it's only around 30cm high. As you mentioned, we also need the front seats reclined a little to get the best view. Also we have 5 seats (designed for the wife & I + 3 kids), yet 90% of the time it's just the wife and I watching alone 😂😂
Speaker points - I got the placement right, however, I didn't allow enough cable to protrude through the wall when running the cable. I've now realised my side & rear surrounds are slightly too high up the wall and I would like to lower them by approx 50cm, but I can't do this easily as I made the speaker cable too short. Lesson learned, speaker cable is relatively cheap so always run more than you need.
Lighting - Just like you I originally thought Theatre Rooms are meant to be really dark right? It wasn't until the room was completed that I realised I didn't give the lighting anywhere near enough thought and had dark pockets all around the room. It was an expensive exercise to pay an electrician to come out and retrofit new wiring throughout the ceiling and install lights where I actually needed them.
Budget - This is the clincher! I had absolutely no idea how expensive this room would be. Even now, it's a work in progress so it's still costing me a small fortune. As a Home Theatre enthusiast, I agree that it's really important to set some kind of budget at the outset, but also consider how some equipment seems to constantly change year after year as technology evolves (yes AV Receivers, I'm looking at you 😜) So also consider the cost of upgrading aging A/V equipment if you want to keep up with the latest technology.
All said and done, It's an incredibly immersive and enjoyable hobby, and thoroughly worth the investment.
Well done for making a interesting and informative video 👏
Jason (another Home Theatre enthusiast and fellow Sydney sider) Subbed to your channel.
Hey Jase, thanks for taking the time to make a detailed comment!
It sounds like you experienced some of the pitfalls I did! Great to hear from another local as well :)
Would love to know more about your theater room setup as not many that I connect with on this platform are locals.
Again thanks for reaching out and glad it entertained you somewhat sharing in a familiar situation.
@@BuildMontage No probs! I was excited to see a local on here too, I'm always looking for Theatre Room videos but most people seem to be in the USA.
I put up a Theatre Room Tour video on my channel about a week ago, you can check it out on my channel or here is the link ruclips.net/video/z4wYC76CuSg/видео.html
I made the video in response to my posts on Instagram. Quite a few people saw my room pics and messaged me asking if I would make a full RUclips video...so I thought why not?
It's a little amatuer, and the editing isn't great but hopefully I'll get better at it over time. This is my 1st RUclips video and I can now really appreciate how much effort goes into making a video - I had no idea :)
Anyway, thanks for the reply and I'd be happy to chat again!
some decent points, but some are a bit off. 1. the front L and R don't face the seating they face sidewalls left to right and right to left. Too get it correct you sit in your seat while sliding a mirror on the wall until you see the cone of the speakers. Then that is where you put sound diffusers. 2. sound dampening insulation is actually counter productive too the speaker sound quality. Since the sound hits the wall and its absorbed. typically you smash a ton of screws around where you have speakers to stop the vibration transfer. 3. If you go in-wall once again smash tons of screws in the room and out. Also do not mount them into insulation. 3. Klipsh actually isn't that great they are basically like bose or sonos, if you want to spend money on towers something like tannoy would be much better than box store brand. 4. he never covered the importance for types of screens for rooms or projectors, yes speakers are important but these 2 are a huge make or break. I always recommend spending around 15k on equipment (this is middle tier not high end). This guy does have a half decent grasp on the basics but, not all
My channel is about the journey... lots has changed since this video :) big upgrades and changes are coming as we speak.
I love my home theater i started with sony and dell projector and ended up with all klipsch and polk subs 135" elite screen and a 4k epson projector dolby atmos 11.2 with a denon and holy smokes best investment ever i must say though size is a huge role i had to end up building a whole other room just for 18x26 for this setup well worth it and yes it can expensive so quick thank you for this great video
Home theater is a deep rabbit hole for sure.. Great video!
Great video!!! I’ve had no luck in finding more info on things I should know before my house gets built and when I started hearing about your experiences, this video went straight into my saved folder. Thanks for all your insight!!
I hope it helps you out!
Good discussion. It's the practical stuff you can't think of that gets you with this kind of thing
Yes it sure is.. I can't believe how much I've learned since this video!
man you are most honest guy in youtube i had same problems when i build my hometheater room
Appreciate that man.. thanks for watching.
If you only need 10mm for an in-wall just build a spacer. It can be just the size of the speaker, be full height like a column detail. Anything really. Food for thought.
Agreed that can be done. I’m going for something different now. All Krix speakers Symmetrix in walls and MX-10 front sound stage and Atmospherix A20 in ceiling. Latest video on my channel explains the upgrade
Ouch! I can only imagine spending all this time and money into a theater and then just have my kids go off on their phones instead of enjoying movie time with the family. I built my theater and we have family movie nights every Friday. I feel for you brother!
Yeah it sux but just how it worked out. My boys come into the theater now with me since I rebuilt it from this to a single row.
A fine video. Take heed you home theatre room designers.
I’m building a HT and your channel is helping me a lot. Keep posting more. Love your theatre
That’s awesome to hear :) jump on our discord server if you’d like to keep in touch with the community. Link is in thh The description.
It’s never going to end. You’ll always going to upgrading it. But it will also keep you out of trouble.
Ain’t that the truth!
lmao i started with a 5.1 then i got a 5.2 then i got a 5.2.4 haha now im upgrading center and floorstand lmaoo im so broke
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Thoroughly enjoyed your video. I've seen hours of RUclips videos on these topics for weeks and yours definitively resonated with me. Thank you.
That’s great! Lots more of this sort of content on my channel and Discord server (links in description)
What front wall mount speakers did you end up using? I want to check them out. Thanks
The ones in the video are Klipsch RP-150m however I have a whole more set of speakers coming if you check out my latest video. Krix MX-10 which are a wall of sound.
Wow!!! Just wow. I would definately come over to your place for a unique movie experience with my wife and pay more than gold class at Hoyts. Well done mate.
My requirements are a lot more tame and ameratish and I don't have a dedicated room, but I respect the effort and time you put in to telling people like me how to avoid the pitfalls in setting up. Good on you! You have taught me, thank you mate.
always buy stuff in stages. Speakers haven't really changed in design for decades. .. I also can't get over the fact that sound is much improved with sound treatment.. using acoustic panels. I've also got dedicated subwoofer foam under my sub and it's so much better. All you get is bass directly from the sub and room doesn't rattle as a result. Also put similar foam under the main speakers it just cuts out all the vibrations.
With the exception of subwoofers. Decades ago they weren't even available to the average "hi-fi" consumer. Then compare the first generations to what's available today and the difference is pretty big.
The point no.1 is literally me....On point journey.
Great video. I am in the earliest stage of building my theater where I have the opportunity to address all of these issues. You’ve been helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
One of the best videos I’ve seen how to Build a Home theatre explains how it’s kind of like A will I will say it’s like a bruised orange you might not get the juice that you were looking for but sometimes you gotta work around that and Expect a little bit of disappointment and I like how you explain this in your video grate work I love the video man 2 👍👍
Thanks for the kind words. Pretty much that was my purpose in making this video :D
You earned one subscriber today! Good job man!!
Welcome aboard!
This was a great video Sir. I have spent the better part of a year planning the upgrade of my own room the education required to successfully achieve my goal. You hit all of the points necessary & thank you for sharing this portion if your personal journey…
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
One thing to mention - Make use of the used market! I've rarely owned any new AV Home Theater gear and I am now running 7.2.4 atmos using Paradigm Studio 60 v3's, cc590 v4 and marantz monoblocks thru a denon x3600h. The used market is where you save a lot!
As soon as I graduate I am planning on pairing 2 HomePods through Apple TV 4K to my Epson 5050ub projector. And paint the room dark and then get a little acoustic treatment and call it a day. Those HomePods essentially have 2 subwoofers. And they are so good for a small theater room for me at least.
If it makes you happy and enjoy the experience then that's all that matters!!
Love the video brother. Great job on editing the content as well, keep it up man! Subscribed!
Spec Of Tech thanks very much :) Learning and growing with each video!!
I always wanted a home theater but never had one. Many times I visited a lot of my friends, their theaters and a whole lot of things. But after sometime of watching in it, especially since watching Interstellar movie I realized one things :
Scenario 1 : Watching Interstellar on IMAX. It was mind blowing. I forgot I was in theater.
Scenario 2 : Watching The Dark Knight at my friend's Home Theater. It was Mind blowing and I forgot I was in his home.
Scenario 3 : Watching Dunkirk in my Phone, just when about to go to bed.
It didn't make a damn difference. All the scenarios induced same amount of indulgence into the movie. So, unless you are going to watch a movie multiple times i.e. more than 2 or 3 times, all these set ups are not worth it. Honestly, as we grow in age, we rarely find time to even have a chat with friends. Only pleasure that we are going to get out of all this is actually in building things up and finishing the setup than actually enjoying the setup.
After a few initial gimmicks we forget where the sound is coming from. The same is with my 3D TV too. It wasn't worth all the extra money.
Now, I just watch movies on my Monitor with Dolby atmos app on windows 10, Netflix/Prime, and a pair of Sony bluetooth normal headphones and a pretty ordinary chair.
It doesn't make a damn difference of any of the multimedia set up, because I realized *It is the movie that matters not how you see it *. Sure it enhances the experience and makes it memorable, but most of the times those memories are lost after the first couple of movies of experiencing it.
I realized how it is the seating position and its comfort that decides how much you are going to enjoy a movie even if it is in 2.0.
Someday I will get a home theater like this. Until then I envy all the people like you.
The biggest difference is when you rewatch a good movie on a WORSE setup. Then it feels really bad, because you wait for those awesome moments and they are so much less powerful than what you remembered and it's just sadness... I think it happens more with audio than visuals. With visuals, as you said, I can forget about the screen as long as the effective field of view is similar (IMAX FOV can be achieved even with a tablet if you put it close to face...)
Couldn't disagree more - it makes a huge difference. Watching a movie like the 3 you list is a completely different experience in a theater than phone, computer, or even on a regular TV w/o a hi-fi set up. Yes the story is the same, but the experience is not comparable. The difference is, some people don't find value in the overall experience so investing in a room isn't a priority.
Great Advice and so true. I am currently buidling a dedicated home theater in my dedicated room that was built for it. Another great advice would be to join a community like AVS forums to get others opinions and ideas and doing research. I did so much research for months, all I could do is think about home theater but still I am learning. I am glad I am done with sound proofing walls and ceiling with double drywall, green glue, sound clips, hat channels.. etc.. SO tired but maybe one day I will put up some pictures tho I wish i documented it more but then it takes alot of time as well to do so.. Anyways great channel!
Chase023 hey there. Thanks for the comments. Why not jump on our Discord? Links in the description. Lots of chatter and people discussing all things home theater!
great video ! good to heart about mistakes because everyone only wanna show how good they are... we learn from our mistakes
Absolutely, and I believe in showing everything, warts and all...
Amazing video. Very informative. You’re a great communicator. Thank you!
Icelandlover appreciate it thank you 🙏🏻
I grew up with a very nice klipch audio powered theater room but my parents went with what looked like a very small 60in plasma tc at the time which was literally 6 grand.. its crazy now how you can get quiet a nice 720P projector for really really cheap and it looks better then an old plazma and larger. I have a veryh budget apartment home theatre in comparison but have got everything very equally complimenting to one another with only my sound system a bit more overspent on then the rest of the theater but i personally believe sound is more important as it has the power to really bring you into the show and you all of a suddenly forget that you are only watching in 1080p. My optoma projector costed $1500 3 years ago and now you can get fairly nice 4k projectors for that money... glad i spent more of my budget on sound over picture because I can still upgrade my picture without needing to upgrade sound except adding another subwoofer when we do have our own house.
as someone who just started going down the audiophile rabbit hole all because family bought me a schiit audio DAC for my birthday this video was great!
It’s a rabbit hole alright!!
I am wanting to convert our music rooom into a cinema room.
1) Cost/Budget - How Much Does It Cost To Set Up A Home Theater? - on a pretty low budget
2) Speaker points - was just going for a few bose speakers
3) Subwoofer placement - got only one.
4) Number of speakers you must consider this prior - was going for the old school quadraphonic choice.
5) AV Rack - which room to put it in? I thought the video projector had this built in??
6) How many seats you want to have in the space and placement - was just going to use bean bags if I can find them in france !!
7) Acoustic panels - ceiling all sorted with timber frame supports seperated with rubber spacers. Room in basement. Door with solid insulation + blanket.
8) Lighting Plan - no problem with spot lights & long LED cable around the floor corners.
9) Power - Very lucky I put a triple socket set on the back wall and another side wall.
10) Speaker choices - I gues I can add more if required.
Thanks for all your advice - a lost west aussie trying to set up a home cinema in France with the language barrier as well...
Excellent advice. Love the candor. I am building a new home for me and the wife. Kids are grown and gone, one granddaughter. This home is strictly for us! Dream home and retirement home and if visitors come, that'll be nice. LOL! I'm now a subscriber! Keep up the good work!
Tim Richardson that’s awesome! If you watch some of my latest videos you will see I’m rebuilding my theater and I’ve gone down to a single row :)
I'm on a super budget..
86 inch LG TV and a 5000 watt LG CK99 sound system will be good enough for me...
Great Video. I have a 7.2.6 theater and yes it gets very expensive and things I didnt think about which can kill your sound. I have all Klipsch Reference speakers and didnt think of how much sound I was loosing, so then came sound management which added up to lol alot. The difference between having an Av receiver and then going to seperated added and enormous amount. It is very very costly to say the least but I do enjoy it, But one thing you really said that hit me also was I built my theater when my kids were all in High School and we were the house to be at on Friday nights for movies or whatever , mostly XBOX live, but now they are all grown and its mostly me and my wife and usally just me in the room, So It seems a bit overkill for me now but I still enjoy it like the first day I built it. Keep up the great work. And Good day mate. The one thing that wasn't and option when I built it was 100 inch Sony Tv's, And as of today they are 20 grand which i wouldnt even think about but when you add up what a great projector cost and a screen to match it, it runs over that and you just cant compare the picture to the sony bravia line.
You just talked me out of a home theater. It’s still seems cool, but I’m not enough of an enthusiast to spend the time and money on this. Thank you for outlining the process for an ideal setup.
You can certainly do it on a budget as well.
Well said about time there someone from Australia
sonny paongo thanks buddy. Need more Aussie subscribers too!!
I never thought it was proper to put one sub in the front and the other in the back part of a room. I always thought it was either both in front or back. I am glad you mentioned this because my room only has the space for 1 sub in the back (due to door). This way, I can possibly put one there and another in the front like you did and have double subs. Thanks for your information.
Yes it’s definitely fine to do it. You do need to check they are phased correctly though so they don’t cancel each other out.
Man I wish I could send you a 6 pack or a huge huge hug. I was pulling my hair out and I am going to stop and rethink and do things right. Thank you.
Join our Discord chat server if u like ;) link in the description!
Get this legend to 100K please.
Great experience you share with us. Good advice.
For room correction, I hung 34 blackout drapery panels around my 14.5' W x 19' L room. Very minimal reflections. I have a 7.1.4 system. Yamaha RX-Z11 receiver. One sub & one I-Beam VT-300 transducer in my seating platform riser.
Nice! Im waiting for a quote on some drapes for my left side wall! Custom made so expecting it to cost a bit LOL!
@@BuildMontage I've laid all of my speaker wiring along the top of the drapery hardware keeping it off of the floor. I just bought from Walmart.com about $790.00 US.
@@pheotonia I have to go with custom unfortunately due to a step down and also some custom cuts as I have inwall speakers that need to be heard :D
Excellent points, another ones I see people failing big time at are:
11. Getting a screen that doesn't go wall to wall. Even if you have a massive screen on a massive wall, it will still look small if it doesn't get close to the edges. That's something Youthman did right, that's one of the many reasons why his theater is so good. When the screen only covers the center of the wall, it will always look smaller than it actually is, and it loses that cinema effect we all are after.
12. Getting surrounds that don't match the fronts. People get these massive front speakers, but put very tiny surrounds, and as a result the sound becomes completely unbalanced. If the camera moves, you are not supposed to notice any difference between the sound coming from your surrounds than your fronts, or the center channel. Your surrounds should always be able to keep up with the fronts. A lot of home theaters are trash because of this.
I think the problem is throw. Unless you go ultra short throw some rooms just do not have the space to do wall to wall. Wish some of the big boy projectors had some bigger zooms.
@@salttrader4113 That's definitely a real point, a lot people just don't have the choice.
That also applies to the surrounds thing, it also happens a lot, and often it is because of the room's size, some people can't properly separate the speakers at equal distances because of their room's limitations.
What a valuable video!
But I have a little problem... Budget!
What do you recommend once I have a extremely tight budget regarding U$1.900,00 to spend.
Option number one :
A brand new home theater in-a-box Onkyo Ht-s7800 or option number two :
A second-hand marantz (middle 2000's) plus a brand new setup klipsch floorstanding speakers+center speaker+surround speakers+subwoofer?
In your opinion, what is the best choice?
I appreciate if you could replie me.
Thanks for sharing your experience and insights to build a good home theater
Thanks for watching!
I agree wholeheartedly on your advise to pre-run enough wires to upgrade as much as you possibly can. It's a huge pain to run wires once you have the walls and ceilings finished.
Amazing coverage for a new home builder. Very organized delivery. Thanks a lot Tony.. Great work.
Pleasure :) new video dropping in a couple of hours!
I am new to this so please forgive my ignorance... I have an Onkyo 7.1 system but I'm thinking of changing to the Klipsch speakers like you have for my new HT in my new house. Will they work with this receiver and I'm not sure what you need an amplifier for. Thank you for your help :)
Hi Tom, happy to help where I can. What is the model of the Onkyo and also the speakers you are after using, or do you not have them yet?
@@BuildMontage www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR444-7-1-Channel-V-Receiver/dp/B00WSECTYQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=onkyo+txsr444&qid=1589844296&sr=8-1 and I use the speakers that came with it. But I'm looking at the speakers you suggested and didn't know if I needed a new receiver too.
Good job mate ! I think the extra chairs are still a good idea ! Better to have them and not need them, than need them and not have them !
Thanks 👍 I'm still on the fence with it... not in a huge rush :D Thanks for commenting :)
Excellent video, thank you! I have a basement in which I want to build a theater room. I just purchased an 85" TV and now need to compliment that with a Dolby Atmos speaker system. Your suggestions have helped. My question is: I have a server that is storing my movies in a separate room and there is a HTPC which actually processes the movies for playback. The basement has a drop ceiling where I can install CAT 6 and speaker wiring as I wish. I want to get the best sound and video to the TV and amplifier. The TV has the media app I need to play my movies. For best sound and audio do I just connect CAT 6 from the network switch to the TV and then HDMI through the ARC and call it good? Or do I need to have the HTPC within 3m of the amplifier for the HDMI video and audio processing? So it's - movies on NAS -> processed and served by HTPC -> sent to TV via CAT 6 -> audio processed through amplifier. Is that a good setup to get the best audio and video? Or should it be movies on NAS -> processed and served by HTPC -> HDMI out from HTPC to amplifier -> ARC to TV?
This is a good question. Have you considered joining the Discord server to get the expertise of the community?
@@TorinTPG Which Discord group?
@@diedrichg Build Montage discord ruclips.net/user/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscord.gg%2FwvtvkaP&event=video_description&v=wvQxOqoqYU8&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHp0WWV4dmdHSkhPcmtfMWNvTHRzekdtTThkZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsV3d6cXZ0Q054amZaTndGNkZnZXRua0Z2V25ScUtSQnZmV2FFSWYwOXM1cEhKSWlzU2dEelo0eU9mZW5CX25TVTBoamRVQ2hIRDNmRDdFMnFDWE85c1BMaEk5UFh1Y0pEcDljZWw5cWxhVjBZRHNXUQ%3D%3D
@@TorinTPG Thank you very much!
If you still thinking about klipsch in wall you could extend your wall out and it would look like columns just a thought. I used bookshelf speakers for my atmos using heavy duty ceiling brackets and it was like night and day compared to the inceiling speakers I originally had .
Another tip is to have someone else that is into HT review your plans and bounce ideas off of.
Very true! I have a Discord server for that very reason (links in the description!)
If you’re still intent on using Klipsch in-wall speakers, considering building a frame for the speakers that would add depth, lifting them away from the wall. Of course they wouldn’t be flush but it’s an option.
Thanks that is something Im considering if I cant fit them in. I'm looking at the Klipsch THX 8000-L.. not 100% decided but considering that as a top contender
1k subscribers at time of publication and nearly 35k today, way to go
Great stuff i'm currently building in Perth my room is 5.5 m X 6.1 m . It is single story so i think i have a lot more room for errors than yourself however the detail you have gone into has really made me re think what i will be doing as i want to build the setup myself as much as possible so thanks for the advise i'm now subbed and will be watching a lot more of the videos
Awesome! Jump on our Discord server if you like as we can chat more about it - lots of people onboard, even had another WA member join today :) Link is in the description!
Great video brother sending encouragement 🙌🏾🔥🍿 I’m in the hobby as well and I agree on this content!
Appreciate it brother
I found this extremely helpful, thank you 🙏
Yey, diffusers! And yes, most people don't take acoustic treatment seriously...it's not all flashy like a new piece of kit.
Yes, I still haven't got mine in yet but that's because I'm upgrading the whole room and I'll put those in once its all painted up and new speakers are in. I'm building two diffusers for the back wall
Good solid advices, mate!
Thanks David - I have learned a LOT and changed my whole room since this video but it still has some good info in there :)
Great video.... Monitor Audio is a HUGE upgrade from the Klipsch so even though you had your heart set on Klipsch, you ended up getting a better speaker. IMO.
They are nice but since this video I ripped out the whole system and replaced it with a new one :)
@@BuildMontage hahaha.. you have the fever.. always upgrading. Hope you like the new stuff.
Great insights. Thanks for the honesty
Very comprehensive and informative! Nice job!
Thanks :D
I use black fabric on my walls to help with sound It works and it looks great
Such a great idea. I’ve seen that done a few times. Does the room still reflect some sound? You do need a little bit of reflection as well.
It reflect Some but not as much as it did before
it also helped my contrast on my
135" screen
Yes same with my matte black walls it helps with my screen. When I go AT I’m going to go with a darker screen to help with the contrast even more.
Thankfully I'm single level over here in NZ , had pipes in the walls for future proofing for when I want to add or move cables , that's also a good thing if building a new house..and having a theater room
Brian Tidey yes I didn’t mention that but putting pipes with a drawstring is also an idea I’ve seen to help upgrade things like hdmi cables.
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I'm an IT guy and this is really sound advice. The best way to make upgrades easier and cheaper is to run conduit. Even just one big one that goes from front to back in the ceiling or floor will save loads down the road. Make sure to pull a new drawstring with the cable every time you pull new cable. Conduit adds some cost initially, but it is the best way to deal with concerns of being able to upgrade down the road, and everybody should be concerned about that.
Hello i wanted know the brand recliners you have in your home theater? Thanks
Hi Dennis, they are from Amart Furnature. I did a review on them you can check out on my channel: ruclips.net/video/lK2pgTKAZPA/видео.html
I just found your channel and love it. Great job on explaining the needs/wants in building a home theater. I am slowly rebuilding my surround system and will be tuning in to your channel for more great videos. I purchased the Denon AVR-S750H and I'm starting to buy some Klipsh speakers. My first Klipsh purchase is the Klipsh Ref R-34C (Center Speaker). Soon to come- Klipsh R-625FA, R-100SW, RP-502S. Planning for a 5.1.2 Atmos theater. Keep up the good work! Thanks.
Bob Nelson awesome choices there with your setup! Love Klipsch:) keep in touch as I’d love to see your progress. I’m working on a subscriber special as well if you’re interested in sharing with th community.
lol re: the seating, i got friends who built a big house when they had teenage kids, and the kids all moved out within the year. Then they had a BIG EMPTY house.
I died laughing at #6. Isn't that how life goes. We plan to enjoy it with other people and at the end, we are watching movies alone full volume. Been there. Cheers!
Sadly yes - this is why I'm redoing my whole theater as we speak to go down to a single row of 3 :) updates on the channel
Love this video. Thank you for these tips. Building out a theater room in a few months
Glad it was helpful!
@@BuildMontage Question for you my friend. I have an unfinished basement to use as my playground (at least half truly thanks to the wife)
Should the room be added to my existing ventilation system? Or does that defeat the purpose of soundproofing the room as you did? I want to keep it fresh but not have too much sound escape.
So well done. Most are lost in Australia building HT.
Wassup with the "Berkeley" shirt?
Bears... in Sydney???!!!
Go Bears?!!!
I'll pretend to know what you're talking about...."Go Bears!!?"
@@BuildMontage Anyone wearing a "Cal" or "Berkeley" shirt, especially one blue & gold gets a "Go Bears!" UC Berkeley's mascot is the California Golden Bear. "Go Bears!" is how Cal folks greet each other.
PS And the "Bears... in Sydney???!!!" is a take on the old Berkeley Farms milk advertisement "Mooo. Cows... in BERKELEY???"
Great advice and nice job on prodcution! I wish I saw your video a few months ago, as I just built my home with a dedicated home theatre. I had the same forced choice for bookshelf speakers, one set of ceiling prewires & outlet isses. At least I got a few things right from the beginnning! Cheers from Houston TX
It's a tough pill to swallow when you realise it's not the best setup, but I managed to turn it all around and have actually rebuilt my theater since this video. I have a few videos on it but haven't done the tour yet as I need to do the acoustic treatment to finish it all off
sorry for all the planning troubles youve experienced. glad youre working your way toward what you really want.
HT is an expensive but very rewarding endeavor. in your growth, im interested to see if you move beyond Klipsch.
B&W, Monitor Audio & Paradigm all have great in wall speakers. as your heart leans to Klipsch, i lean _hard_ toward B&W.
i have CT8.4 LCR & CWM7.3 for bed channels. CCM7.3 for Atmos all powered by ATI class A/B amps.
gives me a thrill every time i walk in the room.
best wishes. love your truthful transparency.
Thanks and yes I did :) check my later videos to see how I’ve changed everything:)
@@BuildMontage , i did just find a more recent vid. congrats....those Krix look much more immersive.
not familiar but ive read lots of happy reviews. enjoy
My front row is bean bag chairs haha proper seating I think is my next big upgrade.
Buddy of mine has a state of the art dedicated home theater. We sit in my living room watching an Epson 2150 on a flat white crusty wall. With an old Yamaha RX-V361, Xbox one S, and a budget Klipsch 5.1 kit most of the time. He'll randomly bust out laughing about how much time and money he wasted. It's beautiful, and comfortable, but just not practical, and home-y. Mine is my only tv. Watch it all the time. So glad I seen, and stepped right over that rabbit hole.
Terry Williams hahah! It’s great fun when it’s dialled in though. I love watching big action movies in my room. Worth it but came with some pain.
@@BuildMontage Yes the absolute immersion with the audiophile sound, super dark blacks of the high end unit, and general awesome feel of the room is definitely incredible. A bit fiddly cranking it all up for just random netflix viewing but we do set aside certain movies for his place for sure. It's just weird how well my little ghetto theater works too tho. Maybe $1500US in the whole thing lol.
This is what my channels all about. No judgements, work with what you’ve got and whatever u can afford. As long as it makes you smile, that’s the main thing :)
@@BuildMontage Absolutely. My home theater is more of a throw together side project for winding down at night. But I definitely fell deep in a rabbit hole as far as my music studio, and guitar collection is concerned. I've got a small fortune in just cables lol. We all have our obsession. Hey! At least we're not in jail or something.
@@BuildMontage ruclips.net/video/7oyGWRJCvgY/видео.html
I built a house. Prewired everything. I built a recess into the side wall and house all the av equipment in there. I have just the screen and L C R speakers in front of me, no cabinet protruding into the room
Sounds textbook setup!
Great job! I think you bring these things into the realm of understanding and possibilities for the average consumer-honest, direct, and very helpful information! I agree that comfort and practicality are major points for consideration. I have the exact same riser and seats and after 6 months I find myself wishing I had excluded the front row, or maybe used the space to better include my music hobbies. By the way, this is the first and only channel I’ve ever subscribed to and there are a lot of greats out there (I really like Youthman’s content too-think I’ll head over and “hit that subscribe button” next)!
Hi Kenneth, thank you so much for the feedback and the sub - I'm so close to my 1000 milestone, so thanks for joining the community! Youthman is an awesome guy, he's just as genuine as he appears in his videos - and one of my inspirations for starting this channel. Are you Australian? Just that you mentioned you had the same riser and chairs.
Build Montage you’re most welcome! No, I’m not Australian-I meant I have the same design (one-step riser, 4 chairs in back, and two in front).
Ahh I see. Do you have the same size screen? 120”? It’s surprisingly still quite comfortable to watch when you’re reclined. Be interested to hear.
Pretty much - 125” acoustically transparent screen, and I wholeheartedly agree! Considering my room dimensions (16ft W X 19ft L) I was a little concerned initially (especially for the front row) but all viewing positions are great! Also, I have no doubt you’ll hit your milestone - you’re doing a great job!
I’m going to have to go AT to get in walls in. Can’t build it out any more or it’s even closer!! And yes hit 1004 this morning :)
Fantastic
I went with a 7.1.2 and it sounds awesome. I really feel anything more is not necessary in a home theater for Atmos.
The issue with two overhead is that it’s stuck in a single plane. Four speakers overhead allow for more blending of the sound between a larger space. I have 6 overhead and find that is really immersive. But two is better than none :)
Very helpful tips and advice. Thanks for making the video! 😃
Thanks for sharing wisdom!
Thanks for the tips.. good video!
Very informative; good lessons on planning in terms of setting up sound, power and equipment positioning. Appreciate your insight and straight talk; unfortunately, I have completed my home with no planning for a home theater, but I am planning to add one now. Thank you
It's never too late, but I still wish I knew some of this stuff before I started :) Good luck with your project.
Cheers my man uwere my 3rd video & gave me keym setup is best 4 me. .My VSX 1018 ah reciever paired with my new QN50Q60T 4K TV. Left me to decide if i even needed a soundbar ??? Luckily caution kept me from making 2 bad buys.. Youve takin it to a much higher level than i ever thought about.. And again koodos to you sir..i apply your tips & techniques to my living space . I would bet money ur video did what u wanted & thats to help others to think acouple xtra steps ahead to save money & raise quality. That was huge 4 me . Ur a gentleman & a scholar my friend.. Your good at it taboot.. if u read this & have any opinions or suggestions 4 me " i welcome any all""
Thanx
Cheers!
Hi there, I hope it helped! I've learned a lot since I made this video as well, I'm almost ready to make PART II! Why not join our Discord server and ask some questions to the community? discord.gg/wvtvkaP
This is a great video. I'm in the process of doing a home theatre and yes, the pricing of everything....
It certainly is an eyeopener. Almost 3 years old this video and yet it still feels relevant. I need to make an updated video on this!