Farewell, Cursive: Handwriting in the 21st Century | Teresa Datta | TEDxHISD
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Anyone still write in cursive? With the dawn of the digital age, cursive and handwriting altogether is slowly going out of style. Teresa shares the many benefits of grabbing a pen and paper.
Bellaire High School, Class of 2016.
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This idea that cursive is dying is so American. I am Brazilian, and cursive is something that you were just taught at school, and, apparently, it is the same across all of Europe. Cursive is not dying.
It most definitely is in America!
My grandson goes to private school and they teach cursive at his school. I'm grateful.
Teresa Datta delivered a really great presentation here and I find it refreshing to see young people like me praising handwriting. Discussion on the matter often seems to skew toward older adults shaking their fists at youngsters who don’t see the value in cursive. I hated using cursive in school because at the time it was taught in an uninteresting manner and we were all instructed to write the same way, which my rebellious 10-year-old mind saw as an attack on individuality. But now, at 21, I’m trying to switch back from years of printing because the flow of cursive causes my wrists less pain than printing, and I want to mentally absorb my school notes better. I can appreciate it more now having seen all the different styles online, it’s more an art form than a set of rules.
I do wish Teresa had touched on the handwriting-information processing benefits a little more. I think proven examples like that are more convincing than a suggestion of cultural significance (I thought that point was a little vague anyway?). Personally, I think it’d be great if kids were taught handwriting and keyboarding both, as long as the instruction is thorough. I was taught both at different times but never managed to get a good grasp on either. Also, I’m curious about how handwriting might be able to intersect with technology as tablets, touchscreens and electronic styluses become more commonplace in our everyday devices. If we can handwrite notes electronically, we should get the information processing benefits without the inconvenience of having to carry around notebooks and writing tools!
That's why I love the Samsung Note. Too bad they're SO expensive. I had this thought a few years ago, that I would reply to text messages with handwritten/cursive replies. I never stuck with it. Would have been easier with a Galaxy Note. But I did it a few times. I would write the note/reply and take a picture and send it back. Haha.
I am learning cursive and I love it day by day. Beautiful talk and thank you!
I know cursive. I just want to learn more cursive styles. I loveeeeee cursive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jayvee Aurea learn Spencerian writing. It is wonderful.
If you think regular handwriting styles are interesting, you should look up Shorthand. There's one type of shorthand called Gregg that is really beautiful to look at.
I love speaking it.
Cursive will not die so long as we teach the up coming generations. Gave my friend's 3 grade daughter the cursive writing book that recently came out and both mother and daughter are enjoying it (only sharing as an example).
I love this. We need more advocates to keep handwriting/cursive going please!!
I'm glad I write in cursive.
No we don’t
We need people to learn that cursive is a pointless waste of time kept on only for traditions sake
cursive is more preferable for memory purposes, making knowledge solidified to a greater extent.
Are you claiming that cursive is better for memory than any of the other forms of our handwriting? I see no reason to assume you’re correct.
It's true.
You assert it to be true; you don’t show it to be true.
Kate Gladstone when writing in cursive you pay more attention to the words you’re writing, this causes you to remember what you’re writing better
It's a great skill to have
She doesn't even mention the benefits of curisive in terms of practicality. Only giving out historical and astatical value isn't enough to change people view on it
Actually she said she prefers it for taking notes because it's faster.
Speed and efficiency were briefly mentioned at the start.
Everything this young lady said in the video is true, and it isn't going to make a bit of difference. People are not going to change their views.
My granddaughter just started kindergarten and penmanship isn't on the curriculum. When I asked why, I was told that typing is faster. Type a page, click a computer screen, a printer will print your page. And everyone will be able to read that page, no more sloppy handwriting. They said it's the world we live in, that computers, keyboards, printers and e-mail are here to stay. Get current or get behind. You can't stop progress. It's damn sad.
curisive.
I’m pretty sure you mean cursive
In other words, *cursive
I work in the water and waste water industry. Fortunately the state requires the log books to be hand written. Whatever was written cannot be erased without knowledge of its erasure and something else written in to falsify or to correct. If correction is needed draw 1 line though the incorrect script then rewrite it over. Its cool to look back at what was written in the 50s and 60s. I just wish everyone would "try" to write so even they can read it lol
I use cursive only. Some years back I'd write in print then cursive, but cursive seems more professional.
Cursive writing was a complete waste of time for me in school, I was forced to learn it and to use it but I never did it well and when taking notes quickly in class I couldn't read half of what I wrote later. Once I had a choice and could switch to printing my notes, my grades immediately improved. Prior to switching to just printing I had never made the honor roll, once I switched I never missed being on the honor roll again. Maybe I am the only person that had this experience, but Cursive writing was a disaster for me
Wow, it's was quite the opposite for me. Cursive handwriting helped me improve a lot in my studies. I think schools should teach general good penmanship rather than exclusively writing in print or cursive.
I think the problem is teaching printing first and cursive later. My son was taught cursive from first grade and only encountered printing (outside of books) when he changed to public school. He actually had trouble printing.
Cursive speeds up notetaking and speeds writing in exams. Think of racing against time in exams. Think too of speedwriting reports by hand. Think of speeding up handwritten paperworks at work. I write up to 150 words per minute in longhand and shorthand writing.
Cursive isn't just faster, I think it's a better starting point for learning how to write. Cursive letters are based on simple elements in different combinations. Because of that many letters are essentially other letter with added elements; a cursive a is essentially a cursive c with an extra horizontal line; a cursive d is a essentially a cursive c with longer extra horizontal line, a cursive g is a cursive a with an extra loop, a cursive b is essentially a cursive l with an extra hook and so on. That means: In order to be able to write somewhat fluently your muscle memory doesn't have to learn 2 times 26 letters (lower and upper case) it only has to learn the basic shapes those letters are based on.
I feel your pain bro. Same kind of thing happened to me also.
Cursive writting in my eyes is like a huge group of snakes crawling all over the page.😂
It was horrible.
As an employer of teens and young adults, I am shocked at their inability to read or write cursive. Soon, spelling will be unnecessary since you can do a spell check with your computing device. Oh, that's already happening...
I'm a student of IT. Having a cursive handwriting, I got the notoriety of having an "unreadable" handwriting by lecturers as they rather read bad print handwriting than cursive sadly...
Have had times before where someone couldn't read cursive.
One related experience: classmate asked to borrow a pen, without thinking handed him mine (exclusively use fountain pens), looked at it with a bit of surprise, then turned it correctly, and wrote naturally. :o
I dont get how people cant read cursive. I literally knew how to read cursive before i even learned how to write in it. (now im a proud cursive writer).
Khairul Haikal it depends on the style of your cursive handwriting. You just have to keep your cursive handwriting TIDY and NEAT, so to make them readable. If your handwriting is very messy, work on it or lose points in the exams.
This is no wonder why employers are hiring better educated foreigners with neat cursive handwriting, good spellings and grammar.
I run a business for my ageing mother, and I often handwrite receipts. Customers often compliment on my cursive handwriting and also my calligraphy (I do signs). Now some of them ask me to write names and addresses on their envelopes, when they want to send greeting cards to loved ones. Also, their recipients often get surprised by my flowery handwriting on envelops, before they opened the letters. One male recipient mistook a letter to be from a lady love, before he opened it and discovered it from his mother. That is not all. I make souvenirs sell fast with my handwriting on them. On jugs, I handwrite "From" + place names. Tourists quickly buy that.
I only learned cursive in second grade and I am one of the only ones in my grade that can write in cursive. That being said none of us were ever taught to type either.
Sara Mendoza Same here
It is, in reality, getting worse, with voice recognition software beginning to supplant even keyboard input.
When you dont use it, you lose it. And we're losing a lot of great and sophisticated skills in the name of technology
Honestly, cursive is, for me, the sweet spot between speed of writing and speed of thinking. I can type much faster than I can write, but I don't think as fast when I'm typing. When I'm writing a paper or something like that, I'm definitely much faster when handwrite it first and then transcribe it over to latex/doc.
Cursive is faster, once you've mastered it, than either printing or a combination of the two, simply because you lift your hand less. You don't necessarily need to follow a Palmer script or what have you, as long as you just follow the basic rule of not lifting your pen in the middle of words.
I personally fail to see the importance of teaching cursive. I was taught cursive throughout grade school, and the policy must've changed sometime while I was in middle school, cause I was never taught it again after that.
I think people need to adopt skills for at least SOME form of legible handwriting. It can be cursive, or it can be print.
Less of the newer generations are comfortable with cursive, though. Forcing something that later students are uncomfortable with onto them will only make them resent it more. I feel like that very factor has extended to peoples' waning interest in books, for instance.
It sucks to see the way of life we grew up with phase out with time, but cave paintings and hieroglyphs have all phased out as well. As long as we are able to communicate, I think all will be well.
You're missing the point. Studies have shown that knowledge is obtained quicker and retained longer, if it's written by hand rather than typed.
Different parts of the brain are used when hand writing rather than typing. During their formative years I honestly believe that children benefit greatly from learning cursive
and practicing it daily.
@@donmiller2908 I think you're missing the point of the OP and of your first sentence as well. It's true that studies have shown the positive benefits of writing rather than typing but is it necessary to write in cursive rather than in print? Cursive is just one of the few forms of writing just as there were hieroglyphs, cuneiform, gothic scripts, etc...
@@QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht "is it necessary to write in cursive rather than in print?"
No it isn't. All that is important is putting pen to paper rather than keyboarding. The only difference between printing and cursive is that cursive was implemented because it's faster than printing. You don't need to remove the pen from the paper to form the next letter so the word is written faster than if it had been printed.
I hate it when my mom told me my aunt has good handwriting cus its cursive good handwriting to me is something I can read
Why would ANYONE be happy about this? Our handwriting separates us from each other and the animals. It promotes pride in our individuality
It have passed five minutes and no valuable arguments was released. Only sick hysteria.
Ms. Datta's name tag is written in a beautiful cursive. I agree with most all of what she said.
Of course, if young people don't know cursive, we adults can have a secret written language...
Yes, Make this true. Make a resistance in the future that can only send messages through cursive.
To be honest reading cursive is easier than writing it
Owen Ooi writing it is not difficult, slowing down to keep it legible is. In todays instant gratification world, people have become impatient. Patience is a virtue, that is eroding away swiftly...and that is sad.
I use cursive for jotting down quick notes just for me, and text when it is supposed to be read by other people. The decline of handwriting is sad, it means that a) you can't keep people's handwritten notes as mementos, there is less physical evidence that they actually even lived, and b) a handwritten text is harder to change for someone else. An electronic message can easily be sent by anybody or even artificial intelligence claiming to be someone they're not.
How much psychological data has been obtained simply from letters written to loved ones during time of war? The Afghanistan war generation, it makes me sad to think of the families, the sweethearts who lost someone there and don't have those letters. When my father was in Vietnam and every night the news showed bodies in some form or fashion, I was terrified. He was there for Tet and I remember my mother jumping at the slightest noise or laying on the couch listening to "Moon River" over and over. I remember the day the mail came and in the mailbox was that onion skin envelope with red, white and blue squares around the edges. The best memory was the address. It was his writing, I would know it anywhere and it was like feeling his hand. After my parents died, I found a box of letters that went back to 1958. There were letters to and from my grandparents, letters between my parents when they were apart. It felt so good to read letters between my parents and their respective parents and they were talking about my birth, talking about me after being together for a vacation. I was an Air Force brat so there turned out to be several boxes of letters. It was like being able to touch the writer, all those people long dead but seeing the familiar as a face handwriting was like a touch. I can hear their voice when I read them.
The children whose parents were involved in this last war, they won't have the chance to be amazed at the fact their father was young and could write love letters or their mother, whether home or there, could easily describe what she needed from your father for at least a week straight when this is over.
A printed signature, in fact printed anything, is easier to forge than cursive. And a printed signature is not only easier to forge, it looks uneducated.
edited to correct typo.
And yeah it only looks uneducated due to classism
I don't write in cursive, and the reason is that right after they finished teaching us to write (Print) it immediately became "The wrong way" I had more then one teacher on the verge of pulling out their hair because the day after all the cursive writing exercises, (Make it flow into the next letter, etc.) when told to write something down, I would just immediately go back to writing in print.
To be clear, I don't think handwriting will every be "obsolete" just because we do a lot of things digitally. Books and eReaders still exist, neither replaced the other. Cursive will always be around for those who want to learn it. But I will die on the hill of if you want your kids to write in cursive, you should have taught them cursive first.
Cursive is cursed because it's not written in books. Everything is in text form. Like calculators being used more than pencil and paper, soon they will think that books are useless also...but, pencil and paper will always be best personally.
You can stop my cursive when I'm dead
This happened for one kid during my PSAT.
I just signed the PSAT in my normal handwriting because I'm a rebel
Excellent topic and talk, thoughtfully presented and persuasively! Well done.
Be it script or cursive, as long human write with pen and papers and not tapping a screen to type. I know that society isn't dead yet.
It's rare I write in cursive, though I do write by hand daily, with one of my fountain pens. If I want something to look especially nice and not actually do calligraphy because I'm too lazy, I do use cursive about 95% of the time.
I hate cursive. I love the curves, but despise what they did to the letters. I want consistency.
Michael Groesbeck I know they messed them up but there are a lot of styles so if your upset about the s & r the you can find other ways of writing them just a tip if you ever want to use cursive
So I still love curves, but I have a preference now for block-form. I find it easier to remember than other styles, because the brain isn't trying to reproduce an unstable/irrational formation. So while I find the more advanced forms of writing very attractive, I would like to see people use a block form more commonly, unless they want a more fluid style that doesn't involve lifting the pen as much as with block-form
I also changed the positioning of the lower case letters, such as the j's & l's to mirror one another, as well as turn the upper case O's & Q's into inverted delta's, one with the toothpick & one without. Then I also took the B's D's P's & R's & spiked them. I altered the W's & M's by combining ||| + _ to make instead of using diagonals.
I plan on writing this way everyday, even at work, even if I get fired for it.
Sinister Apple, What do you mean "they messed them up"? Print is derived from cursive, not the other way around. Just because Michael learned manuscript first doesn't make cursive wrong. The Spencarian upper case G (or it's ancestors) evolved from C The Romans added the hook hanging from it's lower lip to show when it was pronounced differently. When the lower case g evolved it was lowered and the top closed, and when printing was invented (in 1493 by Gutenberg) the hook was removed from the G. (or moved inside) All the differences between cursive and manuscript were modifications to make printing easier or more economical for the printing press.
Michael Groesbeck becomes hard on the wrists after a while....
Michael Groesbeck, I am assuming that when you say block-form you mean manuscript. (printing)
So your j goes down from the base line instead of the x line? Where did you move the l to? I assume still dot your j but at the x line. Do you mirror b's and p's and or your d's and q's as well?
Does the "toothpick" go horizontally from the bottom tip of the delta, or diagonally from the center of the triangle?
I'm not sure what you mean by spiked, upper-case, lower-case or both?
It sounds like it would take a lot of time for W's and M's because you have to lift your pen for each stroke. You could speed it up a bit by combining L+|| and Gamma +||.
As long as your writing is legible I don't see any reason you would be fired for having curious font, unless you have to write a lot and you are very slow. (thinking W and M here)
As I understand it, Print writing existed before Cursive.
And cursive writing was invented to make it easier to write quickly
but at the expense of legibility.
Print writing is still more legible that cursive.
Glad to be in the last generation that learned both keyboarding and cursive in my district
Wonderful video. This is a very relevant topic in the field of education.
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Man cursive is tousend times better than print.
What mirror universe are you from
From a purely communicative stabs point cursive is the worst writing system while print is far superior in terms of legibility and accessibility
Akso it just looks a lot nicer tgat cursive
I have been writing cursive all my life and I'm not even 18 years old, I don't plan changing to print any time soon.
Good, good, good for you. Cursive is for grownups.
My handwriting sucks but my cursive is definity better then my print. I also prefer to write then type
My print has some loops like my cursive. I rather write than type as well. There's just a certain feeling that you get hitting pen or pencil to paper that you can't get by typing.
Cursive is a way to preserve our own history, if you cannot write cursive that how are you expect to read it
Use an algorithm to translate into print
The tech exists
Why do you think captcha’s don’t use words anymore
Very good.
I agree. If I write something down, I can remember it a lot longer than if I type it into a computer. Are we doing our children a favor by not teaching them to write?
Ego says anything about writing
Cursive is being phased out so print is taking over
We have just started a compulsory cursive in our school ;) we still believe cursive is important.
What grade?
And you wasted your time in mandating it
I love technology but I write longhand in cursive every day.
I'm old enough to know cursive and my penmanship is dying because of the keyboard
Its easier to delete or edit books to their liking... they dont like a written record of anything.
And books are easier to burn than the internet
Give and take
My beloved Grandma 👵🏻 taught me cursive writing ✍️ & I never understood why she was so insistent to teach me cursive writing ✍️ and now I guess I know; it’s kind of heartbreaking 💔😢 , especially as a writer myself
I actually don't know how not to write in cursive. I've only been taught cursive, and didn't know that in some parts of the world, cursive was not a thing anymore.
What part of the world are you in? Here in Canada (and I believe the USA as well) children in public school are taught printing first and then cursive later (I don't recall what grade) It seems most private schools teach cursive first.
@@GordieGiiin Romania, and I believe most of Europe, we are taught only cursive writing in schools
@@iasmina9938 That's great.
Cursive reborn.
cursive + being left handed...ouch
They're like in with the new and out with the old. One day, no one will be able to interpret it. Just like ancient languages... They don't want your descendants to know what happened... to even us.
I use cursive and yet I can't touch type, Lol
One simple question,
do you ride a horse to work?
There are many benefits...
But it would be a lot harder right?
Why would you intentionally choose,
a more difficult method?
TahoeJones Olympia if there were stables and horse tracks all around then i would ride a horse around the place but only for the enjoyment of riding it if it didn’t suit me because I was late or wanted to stay for a long time then I would use a car also can you tell me weather your poking at cursive or handwriting in general?
Tahoe Jones
I have a hand disability. So printing (the act of stopping and lifting the pen) hurts my hand.
Cursive hurts much less. To do cursive right, you need to use your whole arm (not your fingers), a relaxed grip, and good posture, and correct pen strokes - something not taught in school, where the teacher thinks "copy what I do" is called good teaching.
I've had to relearn how to write for my disability and none of the corrections were ever mentioned in school.
The comparison is lacking. Cursive handwriting is not old-fashioned, it is a real skill. If you can't read it, you are deprived of things. Also it is easier on the hands. And more fluid and therefore faster. Print is for printers. It looks unnatural and cramped.
Thank you so much, I’m a believer that cursive writing is necessary. And I will do every think in my power to continuing their art, because it can Help us is difficult situation. Think like a invisible hard.heady to help us in time of need. Thank you so much
Yet another offended Social-Justice-Warrior, cursive may be practical but hardly a sacred task. In some learned professions like Architecture and Engineering the printed-word is printed, not cursive. That handwriting be legible with clarity is what's important.
That’s not being an SJW
That’s conservatism
Private schools still teach this beautiful penmanship! It would be a shame to lose it forever.
@2:09 cursive was not used for the declaration of independence. It was typeset, it was easy to read. It was typeset because they wanted to spread the declaration so that everyone knew. Please research before doing a speech. RIP cursive and hieroglyphics, on with print and the digital age. I would hate to read a newspaper or novel written in a cursive font even though I could. This speaker probably believes they should be teaching knitting in school too in order to waste peoples time even more.
The original was written IN CURSIVE !
Knitting wouldn’t be a bad addition
Have some fun electives
21st Century evolving ? Without cursive writing I would call it entropy ...People are going out of style... Weoble are in style …. Until they turn juice off …)))
I'm a prode cursive writer.
(proud)
Prude sounds more accurate
This. Is. Insane.
Her advocacy of cursive is indeed, in my opinion, insane.
This didn't age well
I hope we'll finally get rid of cursive
Please convey your thoughts to Pres. Trump, who I hope would make an executive order that cursive will be taught in schools
That seems like an unlikely thing considering his views on national educational administration vs state educational administration. A rousing Trump speech however...
And of course the great thing about local government vs national government is that it produces better statistics.
Show where a person who writes in cursive,
has a better life condition than those who type.
Then you have an argument.
TahoeJones Olympia in europe we learn the two
you can write more efficiently, much quicker, and with less fatigue, so when students write with cursive they’re more likely to write more and/or with more detail.
How will citizens know what the the Bill of Rights means. If they can't read it, it will be lost !
With the thousands of digital copies and transcribing algorithms
Do you think manuscripts aren’t easy hide away and make new ones with changes
Maybe you would like to compare the different bible manuscripts to see the purposefully changes that get added
I hand-write daily, both "lettering" and cursive.