Celestion V Type vs A Type - Metal Demo

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2015
  • Today we compare the Celestion A Type and V Type in a metal shootout!
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  • @barbsfpv3066
    @barbsfpv3066 Год назад +8

    It's rare that I listen to a demo video a couple of times just to hear the riffs, but this was one of them.
    Those speakers sound amazing as a pair, not so much individually.

  • @ARR0WMANC3R
    @ARR0WMANC3R 8 лет назад +34

    Both > Type A > Type V

  • @boobsmakemehappy1
    @boobsmakemehappy1 8 лет назад +40

    They don't sound too great by themselves, but together, holy shit.

  • @GuitarAnus8
    @GuitarAnus8 8 лет назад +12

    As always Fluff fantastic video. The combo of the A and V type is HUGE!

  • @MetalHeadProductions
    @MetalHeadProductions 8 лет назад +13

    Together they were great. the bite of the v's with the punchy mid range of the a's made for an excellent tone.

  • @AaandreSevenfold
    @AaandreSevenfold 8 лет назад +39

    fluff i just saw u fall from ur chair

  • @MeganRoe95
    @MeganRoe95 8 лет назад +1

    Love that you've put the graphic EQs in there, great vid!

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat 8 лет назад +2

    These two complement each other very well. Every time my ears said YEAH both were on together. Excellent vid Fluff. Cheers!

  • @ipredictacatastrophe4370
    @ipredictacatastrophe4370 8 лет назад +35

    it would be awesome to see a video of more celestions comparisson. Very usefull vid, thank you very much!

    • @DaddyDisgusto
      @DaddyDisgusto 8 лет назад +1

      That would be absolutely amazing!!!!!

    • @Paincrusher306
      @Paincrusher306 8 лет назад +2

      +I predict a catastrophe I would love to see a video about the G12k100!

    • @DaddyDisgusto
      @DaddyDisgusto 8 лет назад +1

      +Pain QT meeeeeee tooooo!!!

  • @jake-jk5rg
    @jake-jk5rg 8 лет назад +2

    Already had a Type V in a 112 cab, got a new 212 Montage cab, (excellent) and added the Type A on the strenght of this demo, sounds awesome in a 212 as well, thanks Fluff.

  • @freiermann7
    @freiermann7 8 лет назад

    This is a really cool way to setup and show a comparison. Well done sir

  • @ChristopherRoss.
    @ChristopherRoss. 8 лет назад +5

    Definitely the V type. Its crisp and clear, while the A just sounded super fizzy, and it felt like there was a big frequency hole--but I agree that they sound best when combined.

  • @lawrencegenereux8567
    @lawrencegenereux8567 8 лет назад +1

    Great comparison video, Fluff.
    Mixing different speaker models often has the additional benefit of smoothing out the low-end
    response, as long
    as the speakers have different free-air resonant frequencies.

  • @edwardvillescaiii1942
    @edwardvillescaiii1942 8 лет назад

    this combo.... is amazing. both do so well with each.

  • @Coonetta
    @Coonetta 8 лет назад +2

    Both very nice. I like the crunchiness of the A type more

  • @randallshanefight
    @randallshanefight 8 лет назад +1

    This video was very helpful. Keep killing it fluff!

  • @jonnykanesantos
    @jonnykanesantos 8 лет назад +2

    This is the first time I've watched a comparison thing where there was a distinct difference but I couldn't pick one. I think they both sound so good.

  • @josierawk
    @josierawk 8 лет назад +2

    V type sounds nice, totally my flavor

  • @damianmurphy7395
    @damianmurphy7395 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this! Currently I was torn between these two for my old 4x12 I was looking to upgrade the speakers. But I am going to go with a combination. Great demo thank you!

  • @AndyLifeInVideo
    @AndyLifeInVideo 8 лет назад +6

    I like them both together (they really complement each other), but if I had to pick one, it'd be V-Type!!

  • @DanMarcelino
    @DanMarcelino 8 лет назад

    great shootout, and great playing bro!!

  • @wombat6
    @wombat6 8 лет назад

    Hey, thanks for making that video ! it's funny how cabs are so overlooked when it gets to finding "that tone", great comparison video :)

  • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
    @These_go_to_eleven_1959 3 года назад +2

    V type by itself but both sound great together. make a good team.

  • @MetalGuitarGuy
    @MetalGuitarGuy 8 лет назад

    I really liked how the mix sounded when you were using both speakers. Cool Vid Fluff.

  • @Pudding9221
    @Pudding9221 8 лет назад +32

    Well, they kinda sound bad on their own (in my opinion), but when they are used together they seem to smooth out a lot of it.
    They sound like they pair really good, nice chunky bass and smooth highs. Not sure why one would use them separately

    • @Metman2J
      @Metman2J 8 лет назад +1

      +Jorgen Wu Yeah I 100% agree.

    • @perpetualgrimace
      @perpetualgrimace 8 лет назад +1

      My thoughts exactly

    • @srprice2383
      @srprice2383 6 лет назад

      Davy Coningx The V type sounds AMAZING!

    • @michaeldarolfi2110
      @michaeldarolfi2110 4 года назад

      Im guessing he had both speakers in one cab and miced them both at the same time (with 57s im guessing or at least 2 of the same mics) to keep the performance the same for the comparison. If so, putting them together cause some phase cancelation in the higher\harsh frequencies while adding a nicer thicker low end to it that is in phase. Using two mics on any speaker correctly regardless if they are 2 different ones or the same one usually results in this happening. At least in my experience.

  • @monstersteven72
    @monstersteven72 8 лет назад

    Loving the new intro! keep up the good work!

  • @tonepursuit7110
    @tonepursuit7110 8 лет назад +36

    Who else sang the actual song while this was playing? :)

    • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
      @ElMoShApPiNeSs 8 лет назад +1

      It's a song from his band rest repose

    • @BunnyIBaby
      @BunnyIBaby 8 лет назад +6

      He wasn't asking who it was by

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE 8 лет назад +4

      +El Manimal Yeaeaaaah...Yeaaahaaeeaaaaaa. whoooowwaaaaa yeaaheaaaheaaa. (there were a few too many yeah's on the EP...)

    • @ericsilverperson4611
      @ericsilverperson4611 8 лет назад +2

      +El Manimal came down here because i knew this comment was coming

    • @MrSeriousvideo
      @MrSeriousvideo 8 лет назад

      +tockusa works for The Het

  • @watchtheskies
    @watchtheskies 8 лет назад

    When you combined the two together it reminded me of the Creamback 65, still punchy but with the harshness dialled back a bit

  • @wmxx2000
    @wmxx2000 8 лет назад +2

    They sound great together, but individually I think I like the V type better

  • @tonepursuit7110
    @tonepursuit7110 8 лет назад +1

    Wow these blend so well together! If I could only choose one, I would have to reluctantly take the A type because I'm not a fan of harsh tones.

  • @KyleTheGuitarGuy
    @KyleTheGuitarGuy 8 лет назад +1

    If i had to choose one or the other, I'd have to go with the V type personally, but I'm really digging how they both sound together, and that's what's great about music gear, is that you have that option to use whatever you want to.

  • @setra23
    @setra23 8 лет назад +1

    I have my amp running through 2 1x12s one with a V30 and the other with a G12 50gl.
    They sound pretty good individually, but together, they sound awesome.

  • @brokenhead6018
    @brokenhead6018 6 лет назад

    Thanks for video! Now i have decided! V-type for my 1x12 cab

  • @crashzero6517
    @crashzero6517 8 лет назад

    a really good demo of the two really well shown the differences, and i get to hear an instrumental version of your song, any chance of releasing the instrumental version, even if its after some time for obvious respecting all the band member reasons i really love your rocking riffs

  • @liamkeaneycomp
    @liamkeaneycomp 8 лет назад

    Thanks fluff. I never realized how different speakers sound until this video. Great stuff dude.

    • @Yohahn
      @Yohahn 8 лет назад

      +bkeaneyboy It's actually quite a important step. thou i've had a couple of really cheap china 12" speakers that actually sounded really good and then had some of the same brand that were crap.. it's like microphones.. one 57 and another might not sound the same..

    • @liamkeaneycomp
      @liamkeaneycomp 8 лет назад

      +JoeyRockerTV hmmmm. Thanks for the tip!

  • @JaZZMAste08
    @JaZZMAste08 8 лет назад

    Wow they both sound great! I prefer the V-type for the particular song. Great video my man, happy holidays bud!

  • @choplass
    @choplass 6 месяцев назад

    I love that prancing rockabilly metal riff in the beginning, is there a full song to it?

  • @FabrizioCalderara76
    @FabrizioCalderara76 4 года назад

    This demo definitely made my decision to pair the two Vintage30 in my RedSeven 4x12 with two A-Type. Thanks a lot, Fluff! 😉🤘

  • @Egbert2011Games
    @Egbert2011Games 8 лет назад +3

    I think on it's own I'd choose the V-Type, but together they make an awesome combination.

  • @NikkElektrik
    @NikkElektrik 8 лет назад +1

    The combination sounds miles better than the individual ones. Each one has sonic characteristics pretty much complementary to the other's.

  • @billwarner213
    @billwarner213 8 лет назад

    GREAT demo! Some time ago, I switched out two of the V30s for two K100s in my MESA cab and it made a huge difference in how awesome it sounds. At the time, I tried to decide which speaker sounded "better" but concluded - as here - that it was the combination of the two different speakers that just made it sound kick ass.

  • @joemartin5376
    @joemartin5376 8 лет назад

    Both are great!

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur 7 лет назад

    Excellent review. Well done. Wonderful host.

  • @corbster003
    @corbster003 3 года назад +1

    That is one cool Guitar. Love it man.

  • @kridtning347
    @kridtning347 8 лет назад +1

    Hey Fluff, I would just like to say congratulations on that Sleep City EP. It sounds great :)

  • @Atheist555
    @Atheist555 8 лет назад

    I think I know how I'm going to re-up my cabs sound, thanks x pattern just like here, nice blend!

  • @ArielsSmartyPants
    @ArielsSmartyPants 8 лет назад

    best comparison video of any kind, kudos on such a sweet presentation. I'd probably pick the V type because I can always remove some highs, hard to add them if the speaker can't play them.

  • @gavinwild2647
    @gavinwild2647 8 лет назад

    each by themselves didn't really tickle my fancy - but together they sound fantastic. thanks for the great demo.

  • @Marshall_EL34
    @Marshall_EL34 6 лет назад

    Mission accomplished ...flawless comparison. BOTH sound mighty beefy and snarly.

  • @Frankcruzmusic
    @Frankcruzmusic 6 лет назад

    Let me start by saying both speakers have amazing qualities but the star of that video was you your excellent player and when you play your passion shows through. And you did incredible demoing those speakers for the General Public. Thank you

  • @rianrian5677
    @rianrian5677 8 лет назад +1

    You can tell the A Type has a softer attack and feel, especially in lower strings. I bet the v-type would match up well with a creamback too

  • @Cluless02
    @Cluless02 3 года назад +2

    The V outshines the A by a good measure whilst together they fit quite nicely.

  • @MariusHgseth
    @MariusHgseth 8 лет назад

    Combined setup sounds great. Nice comparison Fluff =)

  • @Music10161
    @Music10161 8 лет назад +1

    You never really get to hear a difference in an AB on RUclips but this one you really can. I think you're spot on about mixing the two although I did like the V slightly more than the A in separation. I'd like to hear this with something running a P90, I really like the snarl.

  • @AR_Covers
    @AR_Covers 5 месяцев назад

    excellent video I would like to know how you connect them since they are dr different watts

  • @1973biggloo
    @1973biggloo 3 года назад

    Got a new bassbreaker 30,,,comes with V-Type. waiting on a custom 1x12 as we speak putting an A-Type in that one. Hoping for a similar effect.

  • @Johnnybananass-_
    @Johnnybananass-_ 3 года назад

    Great vid , I wanna mismatch an a-type with a creamback 65 and can’t find any vids of the drivers together - till now !

  • @Joeobrown1
    @Joeobrown1 8 лет назад +16

    *I hate the feeling of reeeeeguuuulaaaariiitey*

  • @crysiscontained4421
    @crysiscontained4421 8 лет назад

    I completely agree with you fluff both is definitely the way to go

  • @tylerbushaw1334
    @tylerbushaw1334 8 лет назад

    Hey fluff! I really liked the ep. I kind of want to figure out some of the riffs, what were you tuned to?

  • @timothysnave
    @timothysnave 8 лет назад

    Nice to see the 6505. Was recently wondering if you still had one.

  • @zeke276
    @zeke276 8 лет назад

    Please do more speaker comparisons!

  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE 8 лет назад

    I thought both sounded great but the V edged it. Both together was the ticket. Esp when you think most won't downtune, so the A may be fizzeh in E.

  • @billgerakas5135
    @billgerakas5135 8 лет назад

    Wow! Never gave them much thought. Both sound killer. Paired up sound the best, hands down. Fluff, considered doing a WGS speaker shootout? Love your videos, keep it up.

  • @hugomejia593
    @hugomejia593 3 года назад

    In agree man Celestion V type, very versatile speaker on clean and crunch get well.congratulations. great comparison and chords of course awesome

  • @collindillard
    @collindillard 8 лет назад

    I just wanted to stop and give you a compliment on the new Rest, Repose EP.. It sounds amazing! Going to pick it up on amazon immediately. I hope one day you and your bandmates can find Birmingham, Al.

  • @linko994
    @linko994 8 лет назад +4

    I like the V-Type much more than the A-Type. However the combination of both sure sounds great.
    Currently I have a 2x12" box with 2 Vintage 30s but I think I will try the WGS Retro 30/ET-65 Combo soon. Think this will work way better for the sound I'm looking for. Also fairly inexpensive.

    • @mikedegrazia
      @mikedegrazia 6 лет назад

      thanks for sharing! i came here exclusively to read this comment about your expressed feelings of things you wish to achieve.

  • @zyxwfish
    @zyxwfish 3 года назад +1

    A type is more clear sounding but yeah they sound great together.

  • @jamroque7547
    @jamroque7547 8 лет назад

    The Generator!!! fav track !!

  • @tempjohn1111
    @tempjohn1111 8 лет назад +17

    V>A, (V+A)>(V-A)

    • @lawrencegenereux8567
      @lawrencegenereux8567 8 лет назад

      Perfect way to describe it.

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 8 лет назад +1

      +tempjohn1111 but what if speed of light is not considered a constant? what happens then?

    • @tempjohn1111
      @tempjohn1111 8 лет назад +1

      +Jack Smith The formula doesn't conflate electromagnetic constants with the variables of acoustic energy.

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 8 лет назад +1

      my hat is tipped sir, that is the best reply i think possible :D

    • @esanch77
      @esanch77 8 лет назад +3

      +tempjohn1111 so.. (V+A) > V > A

  • @jean-philippeabraham1395
    @jean-philippeabraham1395 8 лет назад

    VEry usefull to me Thanks Mr Fluff :)

  • @Robyn_iz_Here
    @Robyn_iz_Here Месяц назад

    This might be somewhat obvious considering the names of each but I feel the V Type is more vintage voiced and therefore lends itself to British style high gain stuff, like Orange amps, whereas the A type sounds much grittier and I wanna say "chewier" and would suit that tighter more scooped American high gain sound like a Peavey or a Mesa more but that's just me

  • @lostinthemasses
    @lostinthemasses 8 лет назад

    Best sound is when they're together. My primary 4x12 has Vintage 30's and Classic Lead 80's in an "X" formation and it's by far the best cab I've ever played out of.

  • @DansHuang
    @DansHuang 8 лет назад

    Damn that's a great song!

  • @tannercowens403
    @tannercowens403 8 лет назад

    Great video, but did you ever finish painting that wall?

  • @philbowman5461
    @philbowman5461 7 лет назад

    Thanks for this informative video Ryan. Do you think the V Type is a good fit for the Blackstar HT 20 combo? I've gone back and forth between the V Type, Neo Creamback, and WGS Reaper. I keep coming back to the V type. I would like to be able to get a nice, chimey clean sound, as well as crunchy hard rock. Thanks in advance for any advice.

  • @NeutralDepth
    @NeutralDepth 8 лет назад +1

    This is what I love about fluff, a no bs "This is how it do, make up your own mind" style
    Together they sound great, but if I had to choose one I would go with the V type

  • @JamesBrown-ef4nc
    @JamesBrown-ef4nc 8 лет назад

    hey Fluff, I'm thinking of changing the speaker in my 5w valve 1x12 combo to beef it up a bit. I play mainly metal but some other stuff too. would the v type be a good candidate???

  • @DecapitatedPlaythings
    @DecapitatedPlaythings 8 лет назад

    I'm with you. I'd like a 4 - 12 Cab with a mix of both speakers. Great sound..

  • @guitarplayergeek
    @guitarplayergeek 8 лет назад

    I have both. Bought the V first and played it for months with a Laney IronHeart. Great speaker, but after a while my ear started to fixate on a certain nasal quality that the speaker had in high gain settings. I couldn't EQ it out. I bought the A-type and problem solved, but it was slightly muddier than the V-type. I prefer the A-type but both together is ideal.

  • @titmusspaultpaul5
    @titmusspaultpaul5 8 лет назад

    great song

  • @TheAkd89
    @TheAkd89 4 года назад

    Have the VT-JR. in My 77’ Peavey Backstage 30 haven’t tested it yet.

  • @ktulu193
    @ktulu193 8 лет назад

    Hi Fluff! How do you go about mixing this two speaker set up? Do you EQ them seperately and finetune the comebined signal or do you go back and forth until the combination sounds just right? Cheers

  • @eryonzane
    @eryonzane 8 лет назад

    I like the combo of both best

  • @jonikaipainen9532
    @jonikaipainen9532 8 лет назад

    Great video Fluff! What are you're thoughts on Eminence?

  • @arturohernandez3324
    @arturohernandez3324 7 месяцев назад

    WOW went you combine both sounds amazing 👍👍👍👍👍great player

  • @SpinandThrowDiscGolf
    @SpinandThrowDiscGolf 8 лет назад

    Metal stance.
    Great demo as always. Killer tune. For recording I use a mesa UK v30 and a Creamback. Absolutely love the UK v30 but still haven't figured out the Creamback. It gets really tubby.... And the bottom just falls apart. That V type might be a good replacement.

  • @gamer263
    @gamer263 8 лет назад

    It sounds like A has an aggressive mid-range boost, but it seems to lack in top end compared to the V.

  • @Rockerrobin
    @Rockerrobin 8 лет назад

    Any idea when we might see some previews of you upcoming signature guitar fluff?

  • @iplayloud2
    @iplayloud2 6 лет назад +1

    Great sounds but not sure these speakers were designed with metal in mind?

  • @xandones
    @xandones 8 лет назад

    Hey, nice vid! Can you can try both (A-type + V-type) vs V30?

  • @JonasBygdemo
    @JonasBygdemo 8 лет назад

    Individually I found both of them lacking in some areas, but the V was better imo. The combination of both was SICK though!

  • @scottishbawbag315
    @scottishbawbag315 4 года назад

    i just bought an A-type 50w pre-owned for my line 6 cab.

  • @zane94oz
    @zane94oz 8 лет назад

    that a smooth combination. they match so well together is hard to like pne verse the other. it's similar to GT75 and V30 cross imo

  • @montychristo86
    @montychristo86 8 лет назад

    Love the new opening with the transitions. As far as the celestions, the v definitely sounded better IMO.

  • @Piekartz
    @Piekartz 8 лет назад

    v for me. Nice playing, sounded killer.

  • @DonLeeelbow667
    @DonLeeelbow667 8 лет назад

    I want that Mesa 2x12 with one of each loaded.

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String 7 лет назад

    killer riffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @AllenHarrison
    @AllenHarrison 8 лет назад +1

    I they sounded best together, they both have qualities that I liked,but also parts I didn't like, but together they blended and sounded good overall!

  • @sameerbankar6073
    @sameerbankar6073 8 лет назад

    Damn that Riff.Dam that river.