Jensen hands down. Sweetest cleans by a mile. Dirty I could go for any of them eckspecially the v30 but still favor the Jensen most for dirty too. The hempback was surprisingly good. Still I can't believe how much more I liked the Jensen than anything else. WAY more.
I agree, but I bet a Jensen P10R-F would sound even better. I tried a bunch of speakers in a Brownface Princeton, including a C12N and the P10R-F (with a baffle adapter) was the winner for me. Less massive low end and sweeter overall. Sounds great at low volume too.
Swapping the vintage 30 for a greenback in my 1x12 closed back cab made all the difference! Zilla cabs does some really great sound comparison videos to help decide!
@@jvannatt the worst thing is when they place tubes too close to a speaker magnet. No good for either. Also with modelling amps, I think it might be best to stick with stock speakers ?
Speakers make a big difference, as do the Mics and their location. The Amp (head), Guitar, Wood, Pickups, Pots, Caps, etc. make less difference. In a Modeler, swapping Speakers and Mics makes it easy to find the sound that makes the rest of the gear in the signal chain sound good.
Speakers make more difference than actual amps, IMO. 3 different amps going through the same cab sounds more similar to me than 1 amp going through 3 different cabs.
I’ve had a Princeton with a Jensen ck12 in it for two years now. The first year I spent scratching my head thinking it could be better and spending far too much time researching this rabbit hole. In the the end, I couldn’t make a decision so I kept it. People have commented on how good it sounds and besides, if I get a new speaker, I have to wait until it’s worn in until I can properly compare the two and by then I can’t remember how the original sounded and sod it. The original is more than good enough!
I thought the Jenson by itself sounded the best of all. But I think Pete is right, the Celestions are better for band settings because of the midrange. I liked the creamback for cleans and V30 for distortion. I prefer v30s overall. Great vid as usual.
Awesome comparison guys!! All the Celestion had their own flavor but honestly the Jensen is just a flavor you can love and work with forever. It just sounds right and can be eq’d to work in any mix. Jensen is like the ns-10 in studio flat and translates
NS-10s are anything but flat but have a distinct mid range hump,- like a treble booster for speakers,- that´s why they are good for producing vocals,- but don´t ever do the final mix on them.
They also have the NS-10 sterile sound indeed, those speakers sound horrible for listen music, but are meant to be for mix and mastering, but guitar land is another story, I would never put a guitar neither instruments on the yamahas
@@bradc32 i use jensen and celestion, and some other brands and i have 1 eminence for special reason. All i can say, the celestions are more of the one-trick-pony than the jensen, my most flexible speakers are the fender special design (no eminence, must be some chinese cheapies.)
I liked the Jensen the most. It seemed the most versatile. Then again with my hearing loss I may not be picking up the treble issue. The Vintage 30 would be my favorite among the Celestions. Thanks for the video!
I haven’t seen anyone commenting on this and neither did I hear you hosts say anything about it, but to me it seems that if you originally set the tone and played the loops with the Jensen speaker, that has an advantage in sounding more balanced for these loops. Many of the Celestions sounded brighter and perhaps too bright for this application (yes, Pete), but were the tone set and the loops played with a brighter speaker, the Jensen might sound dark in comparison. Wonderful video, I have no complaints, just a note on tone comparisons.
I wish Peavey sold their speakers separately. Years ago, I had a Peavey Classic 2x12 with 2x 35 watt Scorpion speakers. When I plugged my 100 watt Marshall into the Peavey speakers it transformed the tone for the better, compared to the greenbacks I had. Sweeter top end, tighter bottom end, midrange had lovely vocal quality. Got a really sweet high harmonic bleed through on bends. Gorgeous.
only because they're broken in. Almost every speaker manufacturer accounts for that in new speakers today. The "old speakers are better" myth hasn't been a thing since the 90s.
@@j.r.g3548 break-in is an interesting thing with guitar speakers - I’m thinking we should get three identical drivers, test them briefly to make sure they do sound identical, and then put one through a normal break-in process (so the surround is loosened up like on a speaker that’s a few gigs old) and put another through a much more intense process to simulate an old speaker, and then compare the three. I’m v curious!
@@j.r.g3548 Better is subjective, but hell they are different. A lot of it is wear, some of it is inconsistency just take the v30 its not even that old and so many of them sound different. All the different cone manufacturers made a huge difference.
Creamback all the way for me. Chiming cleans and clear overdrive. I can see why the V30 is so popular for hard-rock and metal though, there's a bite to the upper-mids when dirty that would cut through really well in a mix or on stage.
Over 45 years I’ve tried everything, American and British speakers in different configuration cabinets, I believe the Celestine Gold are the best sounding speakers I’ve ever heard, crisp chime to creamy crunch, it’s rich and complex it’s among the most expensive they make but worth it.
I've discovered recently that speakers are arguably the part of your setup which will make the most significant difference to your sound. More so than pickups, like for like different guitars or even pedals. They're not the sexiest or even visible part of the rig though so I think people tend to overlook them in favour of other products.
I have been putting celestion speakers in my fender amps for years. I have always thought they were a match made in heaven. I’m a big fan of the G12H30 especially in the 55hz variety in them
The G12H30-55Hz has a very strong peak right in the most harsh 3-3.5kHz range. The Weber Ceramic 1230-55 with the cloth surround is considerably less harsh, but still has an open high end. You can choose the power and some other options. I think the 100W has an Aluminum voice coil that makes it sound like the 30W. It's a very flat speaker out to 5.5kHz, and rolls off gently from there. The wider voice coil Weber California is also a great Fender amp speaker with tight deep bass, fast mids, and just a little more in the harsh range. Both also come in expensive AlNiCo versions. I'd go with AlNiCo for the California. You might prefer the Ceramic1230-55. It's really nice.
I had never heard of nor heard the Hempback before, but I think it might be my favorite here. To my ear, it seems to be the most crisp and clear while retaining the low end and not sounding too harsh in the top end.
Thank you for this informative video. As all the comments show, the choice of a speaker is a very personal decision. I would like to add another factor: One and the same speaker will sound different in a different enclosure - which makes the choice even more difficult.
if the Greenback is a tight fit the plastic magnet cover is only for cosmetic reasons and can be removed with some effort it's held on with some very good double-sided tape. I had this problem on the Marshall Bassbreaker 15w amp got in touch with celestion and they gave me the ok to remove the plastic cover.
Yes! The Jensen sounds like what a small combo should do. I was surprised, though, at how close the Classic Lead 80 got to the clean sound. I think the Celestions had more clarity, but I preferred the "low-fi" of the Jensen better.
The cleans are great but they can't handle any overdrive. Had to trade my Princeton out for a special edition with a creamback to stabalize things. Made a huge difference
@@jsauce311 am thinking I may need to try a creamback in my blues junior. Beautiful cleans but not great with overdrive (from the amp or pedals). Which version are you using in your new Princeton?
I've been considering swapping the Seventy80 in my amp for something else and have been watching a lot of speaker comparisons. My takeaways: Most speakers tend to sound pretty similar when played clean, the biggest differences are found with how they handle higher gain. Most differences between speakers can be compensated for by adjusting the equalization, especially with say a multiband EQ pedal or dedicated EQ. The Celestion Classic Lead had the most differences from the other speakers, which makes sense since they are intended for a specialized purpose as opposed to being general purpose all around speakers. I would have liked for the Greenback to have been included in this comparison, since along with the Classic Lead it has the most distinctive frequency response curve, but in a very different direction with a rolled off high end instead of a bumped midrange. Thanks for the video.
Dirtier tones definitely show up more differences as a listener, particularly because the envelope of each note exhibits less tonal change so it’s easier to lock onto the effects from changing the speaker. Regarding the frequency response curves, I need to find out if they’re static white/pink noise measurements or swept chirps because the latter won’t show the addition of harmonic distortion whilst the former will - and guitar speakers have a lot of harmonic distortion!
Swapped mine for a Mojotone British Vintage 30 (60w version). Great difference.. Difference is also very noticeable in the room VS youtube videos. It's Mojotone's version of a Greenback basically. It totally opened up my amp.
Yup they really do! I put a V30 Anniversary Edition and e Creamback H in my 2x12 Marshall Cabinet. They're now both broken in and they sound fantastic!
I have two V30 and two A-Type in the 4x12 Redseven cab that I primarily use; the A-Type are so good, both in clean and overdrive, they fit very well in the mix and they complete the lacks of the V30's. I love them!
2 decades ago I had the Line 6 red bean. I noticed that the speaker/cab options made more of a difference on the tone than did the amp selections. I.e. amp A and amp B sounded more alike with the same cab selection while the same amp with different speaker/cab sims sounded way different. I asked around about it, but at that time a lot of people weren’t really hip to it. Now we know better.
Excellent demonstration! I swapped out a couple Celestions and Electro Voice and JBL’s in my Deluxe Reverb. I prefer Celestion but can’t tell much difference between various Celestions. Re: greenback, Creamback, Vintage 30, etc.
Celestion Cream back!! Those are in the Fender Tone Master Blond Deluxe and I have really liked that speaker. (Warm with mid/bass tone). Its completely different than the Eminence Tone King 33 in my Tone King which I also love as well for different reasons (brighter and cleaner).
This! I did a Fromel mod on a Fender HRD and the Celestion Creamback and it is just incredible. I get warmer, thicker, and rounder vibe out of a noiseless pickup Tele than my buddy does with a PRS and stock Fender amp.
In the Tone Master there is probably the Creamback Neo in it. I have both, one Marshall flavoured in my Astoria cab and I put the Neo version into the bass breaker cabinet. I am pleased with both of them.
Funny...I got a TK Imperial last week...yesterday I replaced the Em33 speaker with the CreamBack M65 because my son's Hamstead uses it and it sounds amazing. Well, it also warmed and broadened the tone on my TK... I love it!
Yes you can get a Cream Back in different versions, but they are very different speakers, and they do not at all sound like the G12-65 Cream Back. I liked the G12-65 Cream Back the best, and maybe Jensen C12N as number 2, but maybe Pete are right, that it does not keep up, when played louder. But I wish you would mute his mic when the Captain is speaking. The term ´Shut up, and play your guitar´ fits soooo good on him.
Purchased a Hotrod deluxe IV a few years back loaded with a A-Type. Was really impressed by the speaker. Ran my other amps through it to see if it was just the Hotrod in general but they all sounded better through the A-Type. Non harsh highs, tight low end and loud.
I found that a g12 65 creamback helped my hotrod deluxe especially with distorted tones to use as a pedal platform but it was an early 2000s model so it didnt have the A type which mightve been enough
I put an A-Type into a Traynor YCV-40 (which from what I've read is a HRD copy) and there was a huge improvement. Highs were tamed down and low end tighter than compared what was stock.
Fricker has proven this several times over on SMG. However, he was more concerned with just outright metal tones rather than clean and slight overdrive. Nice video and well worth at least a listen for the sound tests
Glenn has shown this. But nobody would ever deny it made a difference. However, his view it's ALL that matters is just wrong. Pickups do matter! A lot of things all add to tone but pickups and speakers most because it's the input and output in the system. Fricker just won't hear that pickups do make a difference and has already changed his view from "doesn't matter" to "doesn't matter for metal". He says the speaker gives thenoutput so its what matters. Of course. But the pickups send the signal to the speaker from string vibration so they have the same value in the loop and therefore matter.
Guitarists and pickup manufacturers hate him for calling the makers out on their bullshit and also he is trying to save people from pissing away money on stupid shit that is not needed to change tone
To my ears, the Creamback and Vintage 30 were the best 'all rounders'. They seemed to offer a balanced sound across all three sound clips. The Jensen was great right across the board. The Hempback was ok but didn't wow me and my least favourite was the Lead 80.
Totally agree with your call, I thought the Creamback and the V30 sounded more open, less compressed... I could argue the call on the Hempback- I might rate it higher up on the list (probably 4th)- but, other than that, I share your views. I was surprised at some of Pete's & Lee's comments at the end, since I did not hear some of the things they said- most probably owing to RUclips compression? I am listening through my stereo (Arcam 5.1, KEF speakers) so some of their final comments on tonality surprised me a bit, especially regarding the similarities between the Jensen & the V30- so I had to backtrack and listen to again a few times, finding the Jensen sounded a bit more compressed. It could also come down to personal preferences, I guess.
Really useful video chaps. Wow what a difference they all make. Maybe we don’t all need two amps, just one amp out to two cabs with different speakers.👍
the more I listened the more I liked the Jensen it had a character I felt the creamback is a really nice all-rounder feel like it'd go well in many amps cool vid man I love it
I concur with what most people have already written. It's probably the most important Factor when it comes to guitar sound, even before Amp and Pickups. The same amp and pickup combo WILL sound different trough different speakers.
I just replaced the speaker on my new Tone King Imperial with Cream Back M65 and WOW.......but....the Jensen here was just as nice. hmmmmm. My Blue Jr has the Eminence TREx...nice but it sounds small compared to the TKing with Em33 and especially with CB65's.
To my ears (listening on Adam A5X monitors), the A-Type sounds similar to the Jensen but with a little more high end extension. The Creamback has less upper mids but more top, the Classic Lead and V30 are much more mid-focused, and the Hempback is smoother in the high end. For cleans, the Hempback was the clear winner for me, but for the dirty sounds it's a much tougher call; I'd probably agree with Pete and go for the Creamback. I have Greenbacks and Creamback Neos in my cabs and combos, and nothing here is persuading me to switch, although I'd definitely like to try a Hempback. I'd love to have heard a V-Type and a Copperback in the mix, although I appreciate you can only demo what's in stock. Also worth noting that speakers do break in and become a bit smoother over time.
Listening on my studio system, I definitely prefer the V30 most followed closely by the Creamback. I personally didn’t think the V30 was very similar to the Jenson, but that could be a result of the recording process.
I bought a Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 36 Combo from Anderton's 4 years ago, It was my first valve amp and i was very excited. But, when i first played it at home, i was very dissapointed. The sound was terrible (to my ears, of course): it was thin and spikey. The clean channel was lifeless and sounded horrible with pedals. Crunch and Lead channel were a little better, but not as good as i was expecting. It was loaded with a Celestion Vintage 30. I tried to sell the amp a few times. Then i decided to change the spealer for a Celestion G12H-75 Creamback. The result was incredible. The clean channel sounded way better, not incredibly good but better. Both the Crunch and Lead channels were amazing!!. A very rich tone, beautifull overdriven sound and very defined. Yes, the speaker can make a huge difference. Great video guys. Best wishes from Spain!!.
Speakers can make such a big difference, even between say a 12 and 10 inch version of the same speaker. I own 22 different replacement speakers for this reason. Celestion, Jensen, Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) , Eminence. Love mixing a couple in a 2x12 cab and also mixing a 12 with a 10 inch.
I have a variety of speakers in my studio and in my experience the speaker cab has more impact on tone than wood, pickups, and tubes. I had been toying with the idea of swapping the neo creamback in my tonemaster, and after viewing this i'm going to shop Jensens.
When I 1st purchased my Fender twin reverb amp with Jensen speakers I hated the sound it was terrible and ear piercing. I then swapped out the Jensen speaker for a celestian V30 and it sounds amazing the best amp I've ever heard better than my Marshall's and my hiwatt.
I liked the Jensen most in all comparisons here. Just sounded "right". I think of the speaker/cab thing like this: a big cab like 4x12 got more lowmid/bass inherent; if you want similar sound with a 2x12 or 1x12 you oughta have a speaker that have subdued upper mids/treble or massive low mid/bass; I think the former is what's easiest achieved. But you still want to have enough upper mid/treble to have a reasonable clear tone. Then, as we can hear in this comparison, it's also the "voicing" of the speaker to take into account; this is not easily seen from frequency curves, it's more complex than that.
Gosh well done for using loops, it really helps the comparison, though I know some folks don’t like the repetitive nature of the thing - which is the point! And well done for the direct back-to-back too.
I love my vintage 30’s in my 1998 Trace Elliot Supertramp Twin Reverb. Obviously they are 25 years old and they are British made not Chinese (that seems to matter to some people). I just love the mid drive they have while playing live and recording. You just can’t beat them, in my opinion. You do say Celestion V30 are what they are known for, but have only been around since the 80’s. Made for the higher gain scene that was evolving. They have been making speakers a lot longer then that. Great video and reinforced to me that celestion make the best speakers.
Transducer are the most important link in the signal chain. (Transducers convert physical acoustic energy into electrical energy and vice versa). In pro audio terms, mics and speakers are the priority. In guitars, Pickups and speakers will make the most difference.
For my entire 30+ years of playing guitar, I have always played "American" style amps with Celestion speakers. Even the British amps I've played over the years have actually been based on Fender designs, but still with Celestion speakers. My current main guitar amp is a Mesa/Boogie F-50 with a Celestion Vintage 30.
I swapped out the Vintage 30 in my Mesa Boogie Recto combo with a Celestion G-12 Neo (Neodymium magnet) and didn't detect anything audibly different than when a brand new speaker is a little tight and needs broken in... but my SHOULDER noticed that the combo was nearly 10 Pounds (over 4 kg) LIGHTER! Love LOVE that speaker! ☮❤🎶
Especially once you start saturating the signal. Clean, though, the differences are much more subtle and what is contributing to the tone seems to be more evenly spread out up and down the line. To be fair, Glen's channel is metal-centric so cleans aren't a concern for him.
I agree with Pete.. listening to them on headphones I preferred the sound of the Jenson..I just liked the sound I'd get at low volume.. I'm using an old Celestion Century neo..and it's the sound I like..it's so subjective though..and difficult not to get ear fatigue... Anyway good work gents 👍
@@HamzaJamzaFamza they are about 15 years old.. they were in a 2 x12 cab made by Ameson in the UK. One is in a Delux reverb clone made by Emprize... & it sounds pretty amazing... Well at least to me anyway..
I just loaded a Celestion Neo Dog, which is identical to the Celestion Century "Vintage" Neo, into my Blues Junior.... It's unreal how good it is! Shame they don't make them anymore, however, I watched a video at some point where it's compared to a Neo Creamback that they currently have, and it's hardly any different at all, well, on the RUclips video at least. Glad I decided to try a Celestion Neo! Thanks! @@robertmaustin4045
Speakers make the biggest difference to overall tone I've found. I have a Marshall DSL running into a 2x12 loaded with a cream back on top and a v30 underneath - the mix of warmth and chime from the v30 makes the amp unbelievably easy to dial in.
That lead 80 sounds really good. It had the V30 attack but a but higher up. That jensen has a really nice tone too, super mellow. Creamback was pretty mellow too. I expected the hemp to be mellow, but it was really the opposite. Super scooped and clacky highs. That A-type had no highs and sounded like it has the flu.
The A-Type’s response is tailored (like many “American” sounding speakers) to mellow out the much brighter highs from the Fender tone stack vs the Marshall tone stack.
I think the Creamback had the best overall sound. My Blues Junior has an Eminence Red White and Blues, and it has a very nice classic Fender sound that doesn't break up as easily as the Jensen.
I swapped the V30 in my Carvin V3 combo amp to a Cannabis Rex to tame the sizzle/fizz. Transducers (pickups, speakers, mics) have a HUGE effect on tone. They could have had similar results swapping out the mics or even just changing mic position. It's great fun experimenting with this stuff using amp sim software and/or modelers. It was interesting that the gained up tones showed more differences between speakers than the clean sounds.
I clearly remember my Dad's original 1956 Fender Super amp...it had an original pair of Jensen gold foil 10" speakers in it's tweed covered pine box! They had such the sweetest sound with extreme definition when playing clean through them....compared to 12" greenbacks in a closed back 4 by 12!!! So....alnico magnet 10" speakers (Jensens') sounded REALLY different than the ceramic magnet 12" speakers (Celestions greenbacks)!!! Massive difference. The Jensen's had that classic Eric Clapton "White Room" and "Strange Brew" tone to the "T" !!!
I have to attest that while I feel that Jensen and many other speaker manufacturers make very fine and usable speakers, my Celestion G10, which was put into a special run by Fender of the Super Champ is just really really excellent. The SC is a 15 watt and I have been thinking of moving up in literal size and power, but when I demo the available replacements, they cannot match the sweetness that I get out of that G10. I know it's the speaker because I've also demoed other Super Champs with a variety of speakers. Oh well, it just looks like I'm stuck with it.
I LOVE the alnico blue in my Vox. Was a bit harsh until I broke it in. But wow, it sings! Honorable mentions for me (dont have much experience with many others) would for sure be the greenback, and cannibus rex. Creambacks are cool too!
Yeah the blues nave to be broken in. I love the greenback in my vox cos it never has to be, but as far as this comparison goes that hemp is up there with the blue, its definitely got the vox sparkle.
Very informative video ... thanks for the comparison guys! The ironic thing is that we are all listening to this speaker comparison on different speakers.😂
One thing I will say for iPhone speakers (and many other small phone/tablet/laptop speakers) is that if listened to at lower levels they’re actually remarkably consistent and revealing in the midrange. The lows are hopeless and the highs are hit and miss but where most of your guitar tone is, these silly little speakers are actually pretty honest!
I think i prefered the Celestions in all cases, they sounded more open to me, im not sure i have any perticular favourite among them though. I have a 2x12 with V30´s and a 4x12 from the 60´s with the old original greenbacks.
You should showcase the Celestion G15v-100. I have a cab with two in and it is THE sound I've always been looking for. Like a greenback.... but BIGGER 😁
A variety of different leads, rhythms in clean and gain channels through a tube amp to purposefully separate lead to rhythm in your own self of melancholy. Very challenging! I compared three speakers in 20 watt Marshall amps. Conclusion V - type medium bright. Classic 80 lead tight in high gain lead. Then the Vintage-30 my all around pick in rhythm, clean, gain and lead. They are all great sounding speakers. 🤘
I think the right test would be....repeat this exactly but with the volume on 9. Then we could see if any of these are actually an improvement on where that amp seems to fall a bit short. Great video!! I loved the amp, but where the other speakers would show up is if you began to push them. Then you would know if it was the Jensen speaker or the Tubes that make it flubb out when it gets cooking.
What most changes a tone is always the speaker. On clean are very similar, although I really like Hemp and Classic 80. With distortion: V30, C80, Hemp, Cream Back, Jensen and A-type in this sequence. There's a very good video that even shows a test changing only speakers and how they influence the tone compared to changing tubes, guitars, pickups. By far the most influential is the Speaker.
First, speakers make a big difference. But to me the important part is the top end. And it’s most obvious with some drive. Those extra harmonics start to really be heard with overdrive. You can add more or less bass and mids with the amp eq. To level the playing field to some degree. Plus the size and shape of the cab shapes the lows and mids a lot. But I’m sensitive to harsh and raspy top end. But there also needs to be enough highs to to not sound dull. And often times you can’t tweak that out with the amps eq and presence controls. At least not an overdriven sound. And with mic’s amps you can deal with the top end. But that’s not always what we’re hearing live. I will admit for clean tones, the differences are less noticeable and more easily adjusted with the amps eq. But there’s nothing worse than having a great clean tone, and hitting the overdrive and it’s harsh city on the top end.
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Forget pedals etc. the two biggest game changers for my tone were a speaker swap in my Princeton Reverb ‘68 Custom to a Warehouse g10c and wiring loom swap in my LP Studio to 50s wiring. Hands down the best money I have ever spent on guitar gear.
Excellent and really well done. imho, the mic and preamp (any) really put a sound contour of their own to the overall sound making the speakers sound more the same than they really are. This is why you thoughts on anything you demo is so valuable, because the recordings, as scientific as you can be, only tell part of the story. Again, very well done.
Tone all goes by the wayside, if it doesn’t cut through the mix, on stage, Saturday evening, with the band….For me, that’s the only concern. I do enjoy my Celestion Neo Creambacks in a Blues Jr, Dr Z 1x12”, and Fender 68’ reissue Deluxe Reverb. Light weight, and can be heard on stage! Cheers!
Surprised how much I like that Jensen. It's got a vibe ... hard to describe in words ... just sounds beautiful. Great video.
Very Hendrix with a bit of Snoopy "Joe Cool".
Jensen hands down. Sweetest cleans by a mile. Dirty I could go for any of them eckspecially the v30 but still favor the Jensen most for dirty too. The hempback was surprisingly good. Still I can't believe how much more I liked the Jensen than anything else. WAY more.
I agree, but I bet a Jensen P10R-F would sound even better. I tried a bunch of speakers in a Brownface Princeton, including a C12N and the P10R-F (with a baffle adapter) was the winner for me. Less massive low end and sweeter overall. Sounds great at low volume too.
Swapping the vintage 30 for a greenback in my 1x12 closed back cab made all the difference! Zilla cabs does some really great sound comparison videos to help decide!
I have a greenback and mine as well. Love the sound of the greenback
@@jvannatt the worst thing is when they place tubes too close to a speaker magnet. No good for either. Also with modelling amps, I think it might be best to stick with stock speakers ?
@@vincentl.9469 Did you see the Katana video? The stock speaker sounded the best. Lee liked the Jensen the best in this video.
@@steveeckert8396 I think quite often the differences are very slight
Speakers make a big difference, as do the Mics and their location. The Amp (head), Guitar, Wood, Pickups, Pots, Caps, etc. make less difference.
In a Modeler, swapping Speakers and Mics makes it easy to find the sound that makes the rest of the gear in the signal chain sound good.
Speakers make more difference than actual amps, IMO. 3 different amps going through the same cab sounds more similar to me than 1 amp going through 3 different cabs.
The creambacks are still my favourite, lovely sounding things and just get better with every vid I see.
I’ve had a Princeton with a Jensen ck12 in it for two years now. The first year I spent scratching my head thinking it could be better and spending far too much time researching this rabbit hole.
In the the end, I couldn’t make a decision so I kept it. People have commented on how good it sounds and besides, if I get a new speaker, I have to wait until it’s worn in until I can properly compare the two and by then I can’t remember how the original sounded and sod it. The original is more than good enough!
I thought the Jenson by itself sounded the best of all. But I think Pete is right, the Celestions are better for band settings because of the midrange. I liked the creamback for cleans and V30 for distortion. I prefer v30s overall. Great vid as usual.
V30s paired with Creamback M65s is the best drive tone ever.
Depends what kind of band it is. Are you playing in a lour rockband yes. Are you playing in a jazztrio I'd get the jensen.
Awesome comparison guys!! All the Celestion had their own flavor but honestly the Jensen is just a flavor you can love and work with forever. It just sounds right and can be eq’d to work in any mix. Jensen is like the ns-10 in studio flat and translates
NS-10s are anything but flat but have a distinct mid range hump,- like a treble booster for speakers,- that´s why they are good for producing vocals,- but don´t ever do the final mix on them.
They also have the NS-10 sterile sound indeed, those speakers sound horrible for listen music, but are meant to be for mix and mastering, but guitar land is another story, I would never put a guitar neither instruments on the yamahas
I’ll save everyone 37 minutes. The answer is yes.
Exactly.
Let people watch. We all know this. But maybe they find the speaker they like.
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The jensen speaker is just perfect for these applications. Classic lead and v30 are also cool
The Jensen i liked most.
Jensen has the classic sound. Old school is the best school.
i like the jenson too
@@bradc32 i use jensen and celestion, and some other brands and i have 1 eminence for special reason. All i can say, the celestions are more of the one-trick-pony than the jensen, my most flexible speakers are the fender special design (no eminence, must be some chinese cheapies.)
I think the closest Celestion match to the Jensen would have been the G12-65 Heritage.
I liked the Jensen the most. It seemed the most versatile. Then again with my hearing loss I may not be picking up the treble issue. The Vintage 30 would be my favorite among the Celestions. Thanks for the video!
I completely agree, the Jensen is surprisingly good and very versatile, but out of the Celestions, I also preferred the vintage 30
I haven’t seen anyone commenting on this and neither did I hear you hosts say anything about it, but to me it seems that if you originally set the tone and played the loops with the Jensen speaker, that has an advantage in sounding more balanced for these loops. Many of the Celestions sounded brighter and perhaps too bright for this application (yes, Pete), but were the tone set and the loops played with a brighter speaker, the Jensen might sound dark in comparison. Wonderful video, I have no complaints, just a note on tone comparisons.
I wish Peavey sold their speakers separately. Years ago, I had a Peavey Classic 2x12 with 2x 35 watt Scorpion speakers. When I plugged my 100 watt Marshall into the Peavey speakers it transformed the tone for the better, compared to the greenbacks I had. Sweeter top end, tighter bottom end, midrange had lovely vocal quality. Got a really sweet high harmonic bleed through on bends. Gorgeous.
In my opinion, it's what matters the most, specially old speakers
only because they're broken in. Almost every speaker manufacturer accounts for that in new speakers today. The "old speakers are better" myth hasn't been a thing since the 90s.
Agreed
@@j.r.g3548 break-in is an interesting thing with guitar speakers - I’m thinking we should get three identical drivers, test them briefly to make sure they do sound identical, and then put one through a normal break-in process (so the surround is loosened up like on a speaker that’s a few gigs old) and put another through a much more intense process to simulate an old speaker, and then compare the three. I’m v curious!
@@j.r.g3548 Better is subjective, but hell they are different. A lot of it is wear, some of it is inconsistency just take the v30 its not even that old and so many of them sound different. All the different cone manufacturers made a huge difference.
Creamback all the way for me. Chiming cleans and clear overdrive. I can see why the V30 is so popular for hard-rock and metal though, there's a bite to the upper-mids when dirty that would cut through really well in a mix or on stage.
Over 45 years I’ve tried everything, American and British speakers in different configuration cabinets, I believe the Celestine Gold are the best sounding speakers I’ve ever heard, crisp chime to creamy crunch, it’s rich and complex it’s among the most expensive they make but worth it.
Agreed,the Alnico Cream is even better!
Yep +1 for the alnico cream. Best speaker, can do everything, it's blue flavoured but better and more power handling.
@@RG-yz8ov exactly
Finally THE comparison between the C12N and the A-Type! Thanks guys!
Whenever the Jensen comes on I'm like, "yup, that's it"...Surprised how much I like it.
The Celestion Vintage 30 stood out to me on all loops.
I'll take two. ✌😃
My two go to speakers for Fender, Marshall or Vox are Greenbacks and/or V-Types. They just work for me, especially when blended.
I've discovered recently that speakers are arguably the part of your setup which will make the most significant difference to your sound. More so than pickups, like for like different guitars or even pedals. They're not the sexiest or even visible part of the rig though so I think people tend to overlook them in favour of other products.
Fully agree
and tubes
True. I've been getting into IRs and speakers a lot. Nothing makes a bigger difference than speaker other than mic position/distance maybe.
I have been putting celestion speakers in my fender amps for years. I have always thought they were a match made in heaven. I’m a big fan of the G12H30 especially in the 55hz variety in them
The G12H30-55Hz has a very strong peak right in the most harsh 3-3.5kHz range. The Weber Ceramic 1230-55 with the cloth surround is considerably less harsh, but still has an open high end. You can choose the power and some other options. I think the 100W has an Aluminum voice coil that makes it sound like the 30W. It's a very flat speaker out to 5.5kHz, and rolls off gently from there. The wider voice coil Weber California is also a great Fender amp speaker with tight deep bass, fast mids, and just a little more in the harsh range. Both also come in expensive AlNiCo versions. I'd go with AlNiCo for the California. You might prefer the Ceramic1230-55. It's really nice.
Celestion g12h30 55hz mixed with a Celestion alnico blue 2x12 👌
Great comparison video chaps. I really liked the Jensen it's tough to beat for Fender clean tones.
I had never heard of nor heard the Hempback before, but I think it might be my favorite here. To my ear, it seems to be the most crisp and clear while retaining the low end and not sounding too harsh in the top end.
It sounded smooth. I'd like to hear one in person.
Thank you for this informative video. As all the comments show, the choice of a speaker is a very personal decision. I would like to add another factor: One and the same speaker will sound different in a different enclosure - which makes the choice even more difficult.
And also style of music to be played or context also has a huge impact. It’s all subjective
if the Greenback is a tight fit the plastic magnet cover is only for cosmetic reasons and can be removed with some effort it's held on with some very good double-sided tape. I had this problem on the Marshall Bassbreaker 15w amp got in touch with celestion and they gave me the ok to remove the plastic cover.
I liked the stock Jensen overall the most, particularly for clean.
I was also going to comment on how well it did. It's a good sound overall I thought. As you say particularly for that nice Fender clean sound.
Yes! The Jensen sounds like what a small combo should do. I was surprised, though, at how close the Classic Lead 80 got to the clean sound. I think the Celestions had more clarity, but I preferred the "low-fi" of the Jensen better.
The cleans are great but they can't handle any overdrive. Had to trade my Princeton out for a special edition with a creamback to stabalize things. Made a huge difference
@@jsauce311 am thinking I may need to try a creamback in my blues junior. Beautiful cleans but not great with overdrive (from the amp or pedals). Which version are you using in your new Princeton?
It’s almost like fender did some experimentation on what speaker sounded the best.
I've been considering swapping the Seventy80 in my amp for something else and have been watching a lot of speaker comparisons. My takeaways: Most speakers tend to sound pretty similar when played clean, the biggest differences are found with how they handle higher gain. Most differences between speakers can be compensated for by adjusting the equalization, especially with say a multiband EQ pedal or dedicated EQ. The Celestion Classic Lead had the most differences from the other speakers, which makes sense since they are intended for a specialized purpose as opposed to being general purpose all around speakers. I would have liked for the Greenback to have been included in this comparison, since along with the Classic Lead it has the most distinctive frequency response curve, but in a very different direction with a rolled off high end instead of a bumped midrange. Thanks for the video.
Dirtier tones definitely show up more differences as a listener, particularly because the envelope of each note exhibits less tonal change so it’s easier to lock onto the effects from changing the speaker. Regarding the frequency response curves, I need to find out if they’re static white/pink noise measurements or swept chirps because the latter won’t show the addition of harmonic distortion whilst the former will - and guitar speakers have a lot of harmonic distortion!
Swapped mine for a Mojotone British Vintage 30 (60w version). Great difference.. Difference is also very noticeable in the room VS youtube videos. It's Mojotone's version of a Greenback basically. It totally opened up my amp.
Yup they really do! I put a V30 Anniversary Edition and e Creamback H in my 2x12 Marshall Cabinet. They're now both broken in and they sound fantastic!
I have two V30 and two A-Type in the 4x12 Redseven cab that I primarily use; the A-Type are so good, both in clean and overdrive, they fit very well in the mix and they complete the lacks of the V30's. I love them!
2 decades ago I had the Line 6 red bean. I noticed that the speaker/cab options made more of a difference on the tone than did the amp selections. I.e. amp A and amp B sounded more alike with the same cab selection while the same amp with different speaker/cab sims sounded way different. I asked around about it, but at that time a lot of people weren’t really hip to it. Now we know better.
The Creamback is definitely my favorite the way it sounds thru my computer. Suggestion would be to do this with a British style amp.
really liked the hempback and the creamback in this comparison. 👍
I like the Jensen in my 65 deluxe reverb. I want my Fender to sound like the original fenders. Love the sound.
Excellent demonstration!
I swapped out a couple Celestions and Electro Voice and JBL’s in my Deluxe Reverb.
I prefer Celestion but can’t tell much difference between various Celestions. Re: greenback, Creamback, Vintage 30, etc.
My Twin Reverb with Jensen’s is the greatest sounding amp I own, and I own more than one.
Celestion Cream back!! Those are in the Fender Tone Master Blond Deluxe and I have really liked that speaker. (Warm with mid/bass tone). Its completely different than the Eminence Tone King 33 in my Tone King which I also love as well for different reasons (brighter and cleaner).
This! I did a Fromel mod on a Fender HRD and the Celestion Creamback and it is just incredible. I get warmer, thicker, and rounder vibe out of a noiseless pickup Tele than my buddy does with a PRS and stock Fender amp.
In the Tone Master there is probably the Creamback Neo in it. I have both, one Marshall flavoured in my Astoria cab and I put the Neo version into the bass breaker cabinet. I am pleased with both of them.
Funny...I got a TK Imperial last week...yesterday I replaced the Em33 speaker with the CreamBack M65 because my son's Hamstead uses it and it sounds amazing. Well, it also warmed and broadened the tone on my TK... I love it!
Yes you can get a Cream Back in different versions, but they are very different speakers, and they do not at all sound like the G12-65 Cream Back.
I liked the G12-65 Cream Back the best, and maybe Jensen C12N as number 2, but maybe Pete are right, that it does not keep up, when played
louder. But I wish you would mute his mic when the Captain is speaking. The term ´Shut up, and play your guitar´ fits soooo good on him.
I'm late to this show, but for me the best Celestion speaker is the G12H30Anniversary (longest name too) - in most amps its my jam!
Very good review and comparison. I'll keep the Jensen in my Tweed Blues Junior
Purchased a Hotrod deluxe IV a few years back loaded with a A-Type. Was really impressed by the speaker. Ran my other amps through it to see if it was just the Hotrod in general but they all sounded better through the A-Type. Non harsh highs, tight low end and loud.
Yeah I got an A type years ago. Great little speaker!
I found that a g12 65 creamback helped my hotrod deluxe especially with distorted tones to use as a pedal platform but it was an early 2000s model so it didnt have the A type which mightve been enough
I put an A-Type into a Traynor YCV-40 (which from what I've read is a HRD copy) and there was a huge improvement. Highs were tamed down and low end tighter than compared what was stock.
Fricker has proven this several times over on SMG. However, he was more concerned with just outright metal tones rather than clean and slight overdrive. Nice video and well worth at least a listen for the sound tests
Fricker is so annoyingly right I think everyone hates him, especially pickup manufacturers ;-)
Glenn has shown this. But nobody would ever deny it made a difference. However, his view it's ALL that matters is just wrong. Pickups do matter! A lot of things all add to tone but pickups and speakers most because it's the input and output in the system. Fricker just won't hear that pickups do make a difference and has already changed his view from "doesn't matter" to "doesn't matter for metal".
He says the speaker gives thenoutput so its what matters. Of course. But the pickups send the signal to the speaker from string vibration so they have the same value in the loop and therefore matter.
@@AvACyberSecurity Pickups definitely matter.
@mofomartian Couldn't agree more! Glenn Fricker however can't entertain the idea that they do.
Guitarists and pickup manufacturers hate him for calling the makers out on their bullshit and also he is trying to save people from pissing away money on stupid shit that is not needed to change tone
To my ears, the Creamback and Vintage 30 were the best 'all rounders'. They seemed to offer a balanced sound across all three sound clips. The Jensen was great right across the board. The Hempback was ok but didn't wow me and my least favourite was the Lead 80.
Totally agree with your call, I thought the Creamback and the V30 sounded more open, less compressed... I could argue the call on the Hempback- I might rate it higher up on the list (probably 4th)- but, other than that, I share your views. I was surprised at some of Pete's & Lee's comments at the end, since I did not hear some of the things they said- most probably owing to RUclips compression? I am listening through my stereo (Arcam 5.1, KEF speakers) so some of their final comments on tonality surprised me a bit, especially regarding the similarities between the Jensen & the V30- so I had to backtrack and listen to again a few times, finding the Jensen sounded a bit more compressed. It could also come down to personal preferences, I guess.
Really useful video chaps. Wow what a difference they all make. Maybe we don’t all need two amps, just one amp out to two cabs with different speakers.👍
Saludos desde México. Concuerdo totalmente. Tono americano (jensen) britanico (greenback)
the more I listened the more I liked the Jensen it had a character I felt the creamback is a really nice all-rounder feel like it'd go well in many amps cool vid man I love it
I concur with what most people have already written. It's probably the most important Factor when it comes to guitar sound, even before Amp and Pickups. The same amp and pickup combo WILL sound different trough different speakers.
Would love to a selection of Jensens. I think the Jensen wins over all Celestions. Always the same.
GREAT video concept, guys! 👍👍
I just replaced the speaker on my new Tone King Imperial with Cream Back M65 and WOW.......but....the Jensen here was just as nice. hmmmmm. My Blue Jr has the Eminence TREx...nice but it sounds small compared to the TKing with Em33 and especially with CB65's.
To my ears (listening on Adam A5X monitors), the A-Type sounds similar to the Jensen but with a little more high end extension. The Creamback has less upper mids but more top, the Classic Lead and V30 are much more mid-focused, and the Hempback is smoother in the high end. For cleans, the Hempback was the clear winner for me, but for the dirty sounds it's a much tougher call; I'd probably agree with Pete and go for the Creamback. I have Greenbacks and Creamback Neos in my cabs and combos, and nothing here is persuading me to switch, although I'd definitely like to try a Hempback. I'd love to have heard a V-Type and a Copperback in the mix, although I appreciate you can only demo what's in stock. Also worth noting that speakers do break in and become a bit smoother over time.
Listening on my studio system, I definitely prefer the V30 most followed closely by the Creamback. I personally didn’t think the V30 was very similar to the Jenson, but that could be a result of the recording process.
The Celestion Alnico Gold in my Orange TH30 sounds killer.
I’d like to see a shoot out of all the Princeton models and speakers. Would be cool for me. Wanting to get another for a stereo deal.
really interesting to hear how similar they are when clean and how much the differences come out when pushed.
I bought a Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 36 Combo from Anderton's 4 years ago, It was my first valve amp and i was very excited. But, when i first played it at home, i was very dissapointed. The sound was terrible (to my ears, of course): it was thin and spikey. The clean channel was lifeless and sounded horrible with pedals. Crunch and Lead channel were a little better, but not as good as i was expecting. It was loaded with a Celestion Vintage 30. I tried to sell the amp a few times. Then i decided to change the spealer for a Celestion G12H-75 Creamback. The result was incredible. The clean channel sounded way better, not incredibly good but better. Both the Crunch and Lead channels were amazing!!. A very rich tone, beautifull overdriven sound and very defined. Yes, the speaker can make a huge difference. Great video guys. Best wishes from Spain!!.
Speakers can make such a big difference, even between say a 12 and 10 inch version of the same speaker. I own 22 different replacement speakers for this reason. Celestion, Jensen, Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) , Eminence. Love mixing a couple in a 2x12 cab and also mixing a 12 with a 10 inch.
I have a variety of speakers in my studio and in my experience the speaker cab has more impact on tone than wood, pickups, and tubes. I had been toying with the idea of swapping the neo creamback in my tonemaster, and after viewing this i'm going to shop Jensens.
Jensen C12N the best by far, especially in the rock n roll sample !!!!!!
When I 1st purchased my Fender twin reverb amp with Jensen speakers I hated the sound it was terrible and ear piercing. I then swapped out the Jensen speaker for a celestian V30 and it sounds amazing the best amp I've ever heard better than my Marshall's and my hiwatt.
I liked the Jensen most in all comparisons here. Just sounded "right". I think of the speaker/cab thing like this: a big cab like 4x12 got more lowmid/bass inherent; if you want similar sound with a 2x12 or 1x12 you oughta have a speaker that have subdued upper mids/treble or massive low mid/bass; I think the former is what's easiest achieved. But you still want to have enough upper mid/treble to have a reasonable clear tone. Then, as we can hear in this comparison, it's also the "voicing" of the speaker to take into account; this is not easily seen from frequency curves, it's more complex than that.
Speakers are everything, and the most overlooked piece of gear.
Gosh well done for using loops, it really helps the comparison, though I know some folks don’t like the repetitive nature of the thing - which is the point! And well done for the direct back-to-back too.
I've recently been thinking about swapping the speakers in my Laney 2x12 Cub-Super, so I'm glad this video came up.
I love my vintage 30’s in my 1998 Trace Elliot Supertramp Twin Reverb. Obviously they are 25 years old and they are British made not Chinese (that seems to matter to some people). I just love the mid drive they have while playing live and recording. You just can’t beat them, in my opinion. You do say Celestion V30 are what they are known for, but have only been around since the 80’s. Made for the higher gain scene that was evolving. They have been making speakers a lot longer then that. Great video and reinforced to me that celestion make the best speakers.
Transducer are the most important link in the signal chain. (Transducers convert physical acoustic energy into electrical energy and vice versa). In pro audio terms, mics and speakers are the priority. In guitars, Pickups and speakers will make the most difference.
If i were starting a jam band i’d call it The Hempback Wails. 🙄 The Hempback and Creamback both sound gorgeous, maybe i need to get one. 👀
For my entire 30+ years of playing guitar, I have always played "American" style amps with Celestion speakers. Even the British amps I've played over the years have actually been based on Fender designs, but still with Celestion speakers. My current main guitar amp is a Mesa/Boogie F-50 with a Celestion Vintage 30.
Managed to get a Celestion Blue Back in my Fender Blues Junior Tweed, its tricky but can be done, sounds awesome.
I swapped out the Vintage 30 in my Mesa Boogie Recto combo with a Celestion G-12 Neo (Neodymium magnet) and didn't detect anything audibly different than when a brand new speaker is a little tight and needs broken in... but my SHOULDER noticed that the combo was nearly 10 Pounds (over 4 kg) LIGHTER! Love LOVE that speaker! ☮❤🎶
Was that the Century neo you swapped to?
@@BarefacedAudio Now that I’m home to double check… Yes, the G-12 Century Vintage Neo with the cooling fins. Great speaker!
Yes as @SpectreSoundStudios
has taught us. Speakers make the MAIN difference in your tone more than anything else.
Especially once you start saturating the signal. Clean, though, the differences are much more subtle and what is contributing to the tone seems to be more evenly spread out up and down the line. To be fair, Glen's channel is metal-centric so cleans aren't a concern for him.
Years ago back in mid eighties to early ninties, I had a Marshall open back combo with Vintage 30. Was my dirty sound.
I agree with Pete.. listening to them on headphones I preferred the sound of the Jenson..I just liked the sound I'd get at low volume.. I'm using an old Celestion Century neo..and it's the sound I like..it's so subjective though..and difficult not to get ear fatigue...
Anyway good work gents 👍
Was just considering replacing my Cannabis Rex with a Celestion Century Vintage… how long you had yours in for? Any thoughts?
@@HamzaJamzaFamza they are about 15 years old.. they were in a 2 x12 cab made by Ameson in the UK. One is in a Delux reverb clone made by Emprize... & it sounds pretty amazing... Well at least to me anyway..
I just loaded a Celestion Neo Dog, which is identical to the Celestion Century "Vintage" Neo, into my Blues Junior.... It's unreal how good it is! Shame they don't make them anymore, however, I watched a video at some point where it's compared to a Neo Creamback that they currently have, and it's hardly any different at all, well, on the RUclips video at least. Glad I decided to try a Celestion Neo! Thanks! @@robertmaustin4045
Speakers make the biggest difference to overall tone I've found. I have a Marshall DSL running into a 2x12 loaded with a cream back on top and a v30 underneath - the mix of warmth and chime from the v30 makes the amp unbelievably easy to dial in.
Glenn Fricker agrees :D
I would just stick with the Jensen, which seems to fit the bill overall. Maybe an alnico would make enough difference for a comparison.
That lead 80 sounds really good. It had the V30 attack but a but higher up. That jensen has a really nice tone too, super mellow. Creamback was pretty mellow too. I expected the hemp to be mellow, but it was really the opposite. Super scooped and clacky highs. That A-type had no highs and sounded like it has the flu.
The A-Type’s response is tailored (like many “American” sounding speakers) to mellow out the much brighter highs from the Fender tone stack vs the Marshall tone stack.
I think the Creamback had the best overall sound. My Blues Junior has an Eminence Red White and Blues, and it has a very nice classic Fender sound that doesn't break up as easily as the Jensen.
I swapped the V30 in my Carvin V3 combo amp to a Cannabis Rex to tame the sizzle/fizz. Transducers (pickups, speakers, mics) have a HUGE effect on tone. They could have had similar results swapping out the mics or even just changing mic position. It's great fun experimenting with this stuff using amp sim software and/or modelers. It was interesting that the gained up tones showed more differences between speakers than the clean sounds.
Yes they do make a huge difference!
I clearly remember my Dad's original 1956 Fender Super amp...it had an original pair of Jensen gold foil 10" speakers in it's tweed covered pine box! They had such the sweetest sound with extreme definition when playing clean through them....compared to 12" greenbacks in a closed back 4 by 12!!! So....alnico magnet 10" speakers (Jensens') sounded REALLY different than the ceramic magnet 12" speakers (Celestions greenbacks)!!! Massive difference. The Jensen's had that classic Eric Clapton "White Room" and "Strange Brew" tone to the "T" !!!
I have to attest that while I feel that Jensen and many other speaker manufacturers make very fine and usable speakers, my Celestion G10, which was put into a special run by Fender of the Super Champ is just really really excellent.
The SC is a 15 watt and I have been thinking of moving up in literal size and power, but when I demo the available replacements, they cannot match the sweetness that I get out of that G10.
I know it's the speaker because I've also demoed other Super Champs with a variety of speakers.
Oh well, it just looks like I'm stuck with it.
I LOVE the alnico blue in my Vox. Was a bit harsh until I broke it in. But wow, it sings! Honorable mentions for me (dont have much experience with many others) would for sure be the greenback, and cannibus rex. Creambacks are cool too!
Yeah the blues nave to be broken in. I love the greenback in my vox cos it never has to be, but as far as this comparison goes that hemp is up there with the blue, its definitely got the vox sparkle.
If you like Vox blues then you’ll love the Celestine golds.
Very informative video ... thanks for the comparison guys! The ironic thing is that we are all listening to this speaker comparison on different speakers.😂
One thing I will say for iPhone speakers (and many other small phone/tablet/laptop speakers) is that if listened to at lower levels they’re actually remarkably consistent and revealing in the midrange. The lows are hopeless and the highs are hit and miss but where most of your guitar tone is, these silly little speakers are actually pretty honest!
All the variation. I love it!
Of course, close mic makes the differences so clear, and that’s generally, how we hear guitar sounds.
I think i prefered the Celestions in all cases, they sounded more open to me, im not sure i have any perticular favourite among them though. I have a 2x12 with V30´s and a 4x12 from the 60´s with the old original greenbacks.
You should showcase the Celestion G15v-100. I have a cab with two in and it is THE sound I've always been looking for. Like a greenback.... but BIGGER 😁
WGS ET65 in my FBJ. Nice. Big upgrade.
Sounds better with drive pedals?
They might sound different from one to the other, but to me they all sounded good. 👍
A variety of different leads, rhythms in clean and gain channels through a tube amp to purposefully separate lead to rhythm in your own self of melancholy.
Very challenging!
I compared three speakers in 20 watt Marshall amps. Conclusion
V - type medium bright. Classic 80 lead tight in high gain lead. Then the
Vintage-30 my all around pick in rhythm, clean, gain and lead. They are all great sounding speakers. 🤘
This was probably meant as a Celestion ad, but all it did is just proove Jensen is better.
Thanks for the video!
I think the right test would be....repeat this exactly but with the volume on 9. Then we could see if any of these are actually an improvement on where that amp seems to fall a bit short. Great video!! I loved the amp, but where the other speakers would show up is if you began to push them. Then you would know if it was the Jensen speaker or the Tubes that make it flubb out when it gets cooking.
What most changes a tone is always the speaker. On clean are very similar, although I really like Hemp and Classic 80.
With distortion: V30, C80, Hemp, Cream Back, Jensen and A-type in this sequence.
There's a very good video that even shows a test changing only speakers and how they influence the tone compared to changing tubes, guitars, pickups. By far the most influential is the Speaker.
I use a Creamback in my Marshall aand I love it so maybe I'm biased but that was my favorite. Next was the Vintage 30 or the Type-A.
The differences are so staggering. Especially with gain. Speaker type and size is a huge part of the design
First, speakers make a big difference. But to me the important part is the top end. And it’s most obvious with some drive. Those extra harmonics start to really be heard with overdrive. You can add more or less bass and mids with the amp eq. To level the playing field to some degree. Plus the size and shape of the cab shapes the lows and mids a lot.
But I’m sensitive to harsh and raspy top end. But there also needs to be enough highs to to not sound dull. And often times you can’t tweak that out with the amps eq and presence controls. At least not an overdriven sound. And with mic’s amps you can deal with the top end. But that’s not always what we’re hearing live.
I will admit for clean tones, the differences are less noticeable and more easily adjusted with the amps eq. But there’s nothing worse than having a great clean tone, and hitting the overdrive and it’s harsh city on the top end.
These also never get old.
Since they are the only thing that actually make sound in the signal chain...yeah...I'd say they're pretty important...
Jensen wins for me! Nice demo! Thanks!
watching this makes me want to play more.....i'm late 50's fingers get real sore....picked up a glass slide .....very light.....feels good on the sore fingers.....i may have 10 years left on playing ...but.....the slide does not bother the fingers.....1st day 10min.. 2nd day 20 min..3rd day 30min....now at 3 hours.....a day......in other words.....get a slide if your fingers are sore...........i wish u and everyone at andertons my best wishes......thank u for advancing my skills..
Love these comparisons. Definitely have to try swapping the neo speakers in the Tonemasters.
What do you want to change they for?
Forget pedals etc. the two biggest game changers for my tone were a speaker swap in my Princeton Reverb ‘68 Custom to a Warehouse g10c and wiring loom swap in my LP Studio to 50s wiring. Hands down the best money I have ever spent on guitar gear.
Excellent and really well done. imho, the mic and preamp (any) really put a sound contour of their own to the overall sound making the speakers sound more the same than they really are. This is why you thoughts on anything you demo is so valuable, because the recordings, as scientific as you can be, only tell part of the story. Again, very well done.
Tone all goes by the wayside, if it doesn’t cut through the mix, on stage, Saturday evening, with the band….For me, that’s the only concern. I do enjoy my Celestion Neo Creambacks in a Blues Jr, Dr Z 1x12”, and Fender 68’ reissue Deluxe Reverb. Light weight, and can be heard on stage! Cheers!