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American vs British Guitar Speaker Comparison - Jensen C12n vs Celestion G12m Creamback - US vs UK

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июн 2020
  • I’m comparing the sound of an American guitar speaker with a British guitar speaker.
    Which speaker do you prefer? Let me know in the comments.
    Links (affiliate)
    - Jensen C12N
    USA: amzn.to/3bTeYnc
    UK: www.hotroxuk.com/jensen-c12n-...
    - Celestion G12-M Creamback
    USA: amzn.to/3bRTjM3
    UK: www.hotroxuk.com/celestion-g1...
    I did this speaker comparison to help me decide which type of speaker I like best for each style of guitar playing.
    For the American speaker I chose the Jensen C12N reissue, for the British speaker I chose the Celestial G12M Creamback.
    I know the Jensen C12N reissue is made in Italy but the design is still based on the classic American Jensen C12N.
    Signal Chain:
    Mics: Shure SM57 and Rode NT2 close to the speaker and two AKG C1000 as stereo room mics, all blended together to give as true a representation of how it sounded in the room as I could. No mixing effects or post processing.
    Amp: Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
    Pedals used:
    Clean: Flashback 2 Delay set on short tape delay and spring reverb from the amp.
    Rock Overdrive: Catalinbread 5F6 (Tweed Bassman style amp pedal) and Ibanez Tubescreamer.
    Clean Funk: Origin FX Cali76 Compressor.
    Blues Overdrive: Catalinbread 5F6 (Tweed Bassman style amp pedal) and a little spring reverb from the amp.
    Rock Distortion: Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret (Marshall style amp pedal) and ProCo RAT
    Jazz Clean: Spring reverb from the amp
    Here’s a list of other popular American and British speakers.
    American Speakers:
    WGS G12C
    WGS G12C/S
    Weber 12F150
    Weber Chicago
    Eminence Red White and Blues
    Eminence Lil’ Texas
    Jensen C12K
    Jensen P12Q
    Celestion A-Type
    British Speakers:
    Celestion G12M Greenback
    Celestion G12M-65
    Celestion G12H
    Celestion Vintage 30
    Celestion Blue
    WGS Green Beret
    WGS ET65
    Fane F70
    If you're interested in one to one online Skype guitar lessons please contact me via my website michaelbanfieldguitar.com

Комментарии • 588

  • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
    @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад +52

    Wow thanks for all the comments! Just to be clear, while the current reissue Jensen speakers are based on the design and sound of the original U.S. Jensen models, they are currently made by those lovely people in Italy. So when I say 'American' or 'British' speaker, I'm talking about the tone and design of the speaker, not necessarily the location they're currently manufactured in. Thanks!

    • @Tryggvasson
      @Tryggvasson 3 года назад +4

      the original speakers on the 60s fender amps were jensen, so, regardless of where they are made, they are actually the original "american" speakers. and today's jensen has the actual models still in production.

    • @gerardoromano3436
      @gerardoromano3436 Год назад +1

      Hi the Fender Deluxe Reissue comes factory fitted with a Jensen C12K not the Jensen C12N, as far as I know (I had a lot of FDRRI from early 1990´s to 2015 all came with the Jensen C12K or the "Fender original design" that is hit or miss. The Jensen C12K is a 100W speaker with a heavy magnet, a harsh sound that puts a blanket over the highs so not as good as the Jensen C12N featured in this video witch is a 50W speaker, a bit less efficency (97dB vs almost 100dB from the C12K) . The Jensesn C12N as you said Made In Italy modeled with the original Jensens is the best ceramic speaker you can install in a Fender Deluxe Reverb RI if you want the original 60 and 70 sound but with a smoother trebble (enough to eliminate Ice pick sounds and to make the amp overdrive friendly but retainig the original "surfy" sound of that great amp). I make this remark so people that´s thinking of getting a Deluxe Reverb Reissue knows what to expect. That´s why in this video the difference between the C12N and the Creamback (American vs British) is not so dramatic. In this really well made comparison, the Jensen C12N sounds much better IMHO than the Creamback Clean and Overdriven / Distorted. The Creamback has a huge spike in the high mids (Like the Celestion Vintage 30) that makes overdriven sound "spiky and harsh", The Wharehouse ET65 is a version of the Creamback that eliminates that spike. If you want this amp to sound best with overdriven or distorted sound a good British option is the G12H (Heritage series) It´s a greenback, massive magnet, 30w (Real 30W) full range (not as mid forward as the Greenbacks found in Vox or Marshall) It cost almost as much as the Creamback, It´s a very efficent speaker (100Db) so pleny of volume with 22watt if you need It. Hope This Helps

  • @troyshellhamer9964
    @troyshellhamer9964 Год назад +52

    I wanted to like the Celestion better on the drive/rock samples but I actually prefer the Jensen!

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад +2

      I had just the opposite experience. I assumed that I would prefer the Jensen, but I liked the Creamback better in every style.

    • @ubdejones1
      @ubdejones1 Год назад +1

      creamback sucks. he should have used the greenback

    • @thorinbane
      @thorinbane 11 месяцев назад

      @@ubdejones1 They are pretty close, so you must think greenies suck too. The cream is a higher wattage green.

    • @RocknJazzer
      @RocknJazzer 6 месяцев назад +1

      most american spks (especially these new italy C12N) are far too harsh fizzy buzzy bees in jar for rawer overdrive and metal tones, only tolerable w smoother overdrive amps, or smoother pedals such as TS9 etc. Even for fender clean the new C12N is harsh and thin compared to vintage ones. I had one when they first came out...ouch. But vintage amercan spks also sound too bright thin harsh on overdrive type amps like old marshalls. Try them in real life like I did, you cant really judge from YT videos and other peoples gear and playing styles.

    • @stewarttomkinson3356
      @stewarttomkinson3356 14 дней назад

      It has more mids

  • @PHELCAN
    @PHELCAN 3 года назад +35

    The Jensen was a natural sound. The Celestion sounded "musical" like it had a character all it's own.

  • @phreshone1
    @phreshone1 3 года назад +43

    Clearly the answer is a 4x12 with one Jensen, one cream back, one green back and an alnico blue with 4 mics.. .

  • @stanislavmigra
    @stanislavmigra 2 года назад +30

    Both sounds killer (probably courtesy of the player), Jensen is to me more "I have pretty much all the sonic space in mix as I want" and Celestion is "no matter what, you will hear me"

    • @georgefromgreece4119
      @georgefromgreece4119 2 года назад +2

      Exactly

    • @stanislavmigra
      @stanislavmigra 2 года назад

      @@swagedelic in this demo, it was the Jensen that sounded to me more compressed. But I dont have real experience with it live.
      Greenback muddy in live mix? Never noticed that.

  • @kjneese
    @kjneese Год назад +8

    Kudos! One of THE BEST speaker comparisons on the Tube! Truly showed the tonal characters of each speaker with all guitar types. Brilliant work!

  • @VenerableNut
    @VenerableNut 3 года назад +8

    I absolutely LOVE how tamed and clear the jazz sound is through the creamback!!! I ordered a g10 greenback for my vox vt30 just yesterday, can’t wait to noddle around with an improved clean tone! Thank you for this comparison

  • @jeffersonmuniz317
    @jeffersonmuniz317 9 месяцев назад

    The best comparison I have seen here. Thank you so much.

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes 3 года назад +32

    Cool! I prefer the Jensen in every style, although the last "rock distortion" with the Les Paul at least gave this Celestion a chance. That particular Jensen model just sings with this amp. Thanks!

    • @allanflippin2453
      @allanflippin2453 8 месяцев назад

      Yes, I wanted to like The Celestion but it didn't work for me. Perhaps the Jazz/Clean sample was tied but that's not my style so I disregarded it.

  • @johnnywomack548
    @johnnywomack548 Год назад

    I got three quarters of the way through this video and then I subscribed! Fantastic demo! Thank you!

  • @mattsteele3031
    @mattsteele3031 Год назад

    Really clear difference between the two in your video. That is helpful. Thanks!

  • @archeryandstuffwithstevela3423
    @archeryandstuffwithstevela3423 3 года назад +15

    Both sounded great! I’d be happy with either. Considering that an amp can sound different just by moving it around a room, I’m sure most players could coax a usable tone out of either of these.

  • @Where_Have_All_My_Files_Gone
    @Where_Have_All_My_Files_Gone 4 месяца назад +1

    Amazing demo and great playing as well. Thank you.

  • @Music.is.my.Fuel.
    @Music.is.my.Fuel. 3 года назад +18

    The sound difference between the two speakers is MASSIVE! Great demo! I have a preference for the Jensen!

  • @sneaky_general
    @sneaky_general Год назад +3

    This video is amazing, thanks for putting it together! The Jensen definitely excels at clean tones, but gets kind of harsh with overdriven tones. The Celestion does everything well to my ears.

  • @finlayfatknees
    @finlayfatknees 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video, man. Thanks for doing this! Such a unique sound to each of the speakers, and they both seemed to coax out a different vibe in the playing. Can't say that I preferred one to the other, just different Well done.

  • @Killadey
    @Killadey 3 года назад +1

    Wow that transition during the rock overdrive segment really summed up the us/uk difference perfectly. Great playing too, solid vid mate👍

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад +1

      Hey thanks! It's how I like to hear comparisons done anyway, glad you found it useful!

  • @brucemahaffey108
    @brucemahaffey108 2 месяца назад

    Great video bro. Great comparison and some beautiful playing as well. I just ordered a C12N to replace the stock speaker in my Champion 40 😁

  • @BladeDoomer86
    @BladeDoomer86 Год назад

    Absolutely lovely playing dude. Both sound very good when talent flows through them. 👏

  • @soundzofnoize8603
    @soundzofnoize8603 3 года назад +8

    incredible demo and beautiful guitar playing friend. best regards!

  • @ZachariahConnor
    @ZachariahConnor 2 года назад

    Excellent video. Wide variety of genres, great playing too!!

  • @micuronium
    @micuronium 2 года назад +6

    Wow. Great Demo. Concise. I LOVE the Creamback. Probably the best single speaker there is. V30's mix well with Greenbacks and T75's, but alone, the Creamback 65 dominates IMO.

  • @binnieortex
    @binnieortex 3 года назад +1

    This really helped me make decision on my next amp, thanks!

  • @pppaulie73
    @pppaulie73 3 года назад +1

    Good comparison. They are both good speakers, just different. Excellent playing!

  • @DadRockAndGuitars
    @DadRockAndGuitars 2 года назад +1

    Well done! Great comparison and playing! Listening on my Air Pods and with that amp, I preferred the Jensen. Going to have to listen on my studio monitors tomorrow and see if that’s still the case. I’ve actually been considering both of these speakers, so this is perfect!

  • @moonsgin3817
    @moonsgin3817 3 года назад +2

    Really great video! Your recording technique clearly captured the difference. I thought the Creamback sounded best with the higher gain but for cleans, definitely the C12N

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Hey thanks for commenting! Great to hear your thoughts on the speakers.

  • @pooshNchums
    @pooshNchums 2 месяца назад +1

    Such a stark difference! We spend so much time comparing amps and overdrives and the whole EQ could be changed by the speaker.

  • @ReXIX2
    @ReXIX2 3 года назад

    great video and great playing man! Great variety of styles in there for sure! It is an incredibly interesting take that you got on this, because for me when i hear US vs UK sound its Fender vs Marshall in my head =)

  • @AYACSM
    @AYACSM 3 года назад +17

    I liked the Jensen much more for almost any application. Have to get rid of my Creamback 😉

  • @Renejansen1968
    @Renejansen1968 3 года назад +6

    Excellent demo. Clean and the funky the Jensen wins, but with a little durt, the Celestion is my favorite

  • @keithrowe1007
    @keithrowe1007 3 года назад +4

    Interesting how the type of music being played really does suit different styles. Thanks for this.

  • @musicmatty67
    @musicmatty67 Год назад +3

    Great comparison video thanks for sharing! It’s really all subjective to each listener. However, I prefer the Jensen as it sounds more transparent and open allowing for the tones to ring through.

  • @pkdude5334
    @pkdude5334 2 года назад

    awesome playing! subbed

  • @martgryfny
    @martgryfny Год назад

    Thanks for the effort of making this comparison! Good, quality video. But it would be good to compare this speakers in the mix, or during a gig ;)

  • @TheOtherEric
    @TheOtherEric 3 года назад +4

    I liked Jensen for clean tones, Celestion for anything with overdrive / distortion. Great video!

  • @memorieslivejp
    @memorieslivejp 2 месяца назад

    Great video, helped me understand the difference. Prefered the Creamback.

  • @billybadfinger597
    @billybadfinger597 3 года назад +18

    Excellent review :)
    I wanted to pick a winner but....they both sound terrific...maybe a 2x12 cab with 1 of each would
    be the greatest sound ever !!!

  • @j.wadeallen4218
    @j.wadeallen4218 2 года назад

    This is a great video! I have a Marshall club and country and wanting to change out the speakers. Since the club and country is trying to replicate the twin reverb more or less, this is a really difficult choice! Both sound great.

  • @mikepretorius6350
    @mikepretorius6350 Год назад

    Wow that Jensen does it for me, great demo and playing, cheers !

  • @xxmanx1
    @xxmanx1 3 года назад +1

    Best demo on these! Thanks!!

  • @azt3ca
    @azt3ca Год назад +4

    Great comparison, I wanted to prefer the Celestion but I prefer the Jensen in every scenario.
    I am pretty sure it would work better in a band situation as well.

  • @ashleymarkadkins9242
    @ashleymarkadkins9242 4 дня назад

    Thank you, Michael! Love your product reviews/comparisons. Jensen the best to my ears. (and the quality of your playing and sound samples is fabulous).

  • @robertyboberty
    @robertyboberty 2 года назад

    This is a great comparison, thanks. I have an old Pro Reverb 2x12 with neo creambacks in it at the moment. Might give some Jensens a go as nature intended one day

  • @trinityflow
    @trinityflow 3 года назад +4

    Jensen for sure for this demo. Great pedal platform as well. Having said that I do love my Marshall 4 x 12 with Greenbacks using a Friedman PT22 to rock out.

  • @binface9
    @binface9 3 года назад +2

    Interesting! Often with shoot-out videos I find I naturally prefer the first option in every case and whilst I thought the Jensen sounded nice, on every occasion I preferred the Creamback

  • @RogerThat902
    @RogerThat902 2 года назад

    Great job, amazing playing. Wow.

  • @hgostos
    @hgostos 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for a great video!!
    With that amp I preferred the Jensen by a long margin. My experience echoes yours too.
    I was thinking about my own amps... JTM45 through the Celestion Greenbacks? Glorious! Princeton tweed through the American voiced speaker? Great. The latter reminds me of Eric Clapton's Strat tone in the Riding with the King album. Fabulous tone!
    I was trying today the Princeton with my favourite cabinet, an open back 2x12 cab with Heritage speakers G 12 M and G 12 H and whilst it sounded okay but it wasn't anything to write home about. I plugged the tiny 8 inch American voiced speaker back (Jupiter 8SC), and the tone returned.
    I guess the JTM45 wouldn't sound its best through American voiced speakers but haven't really tried.

  • @bobnelson899
    @bobnelson899 3 месяца назад

    Great vídeo my man

  • @killerbeuk
    @killerbeuk 2 года назад +1

    This is a nice demo!

  • @matthewtorossi616
    @matthewtorossi616 2 года назад

    thank you. appreciate the samples. sound great

  • @donne9768
    @donne9768 3 месяца назад

    Great review! I just ordered a pair of the Jensen's for my 62 blonde Bassman restoration. I was going to have the original Oxford's re-coned, but opted for what I think will be a sure thing with the Jensen's. I'll retain the originals in the event I sell the amp.

  • @JillandKevin
    @JillandKevin 7 месяцев назад

    Nice job Michael!! I play Jazz, Swing, Country, Blues (Chicago, before they put the distortion in) and several other genres, and am trying to figure out what speakers to use.
    It's almost impossible to find comparisons that are not totally distorted or jangly for cleans!
    Your video helped a lot, as you actually PLAYED some Jazz and clean stuff, where almost all other folks test equipment with big distortion or with 63 digital pedals thru their tube amps!!
    THANKYOU!!!
    And nice Zephyr Regent BTW! I had '51 Zephyr Deluxe Regent & Triumph Regents, among several other NY & Kalamazoo Epi's

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  7 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it helped! I need to get around to getting a new pick guard made for my Epi, but yes I like the old Epiphone arch tops too, very jealous of your collection!

  • @otusvulgaris8017
    @otusvulgaris8017 3 года назад +1

    Best and intelligent speaker demo !! Thanks !!

  • @pepofernandofrancisco1182
    @pepofernandofrancisco1182 Год назад

    Awesome video!

  • @kdc300z
    @kdc300z 3 года назад +6

    I really like Jensens. I use mostly C12k’s and C10q’s. I was surprised that the Celestion caught my ear when you were playing jazz. I think I preferred the cream back for jazz. Thanks for the demo!

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад +3

      I know, you're right. I wasn't expecting the cream back to sound that good with a jazz tone either. Thanks for the comment!

  • @karlsocasau
    @karlsocasau 3 года назад +2

    Great demo man ! Sounds and looks awesome !

  • @tjjr1062
    @tjjr1062 4 года назад +20

    I liked both. If I had to pick just one.............Jensen

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад +5

      Thanks TJ, yeah the Jensen has a lovely sound. How about that rock distortion sound at the end though? I think I prefer the Celestion for that.

    • @tjjr1062
      @tjjr1062 4 года назад +2

      I have to agree with you on that.

    • @backspin6698
      @backspin6698 3 года назад +3

      Same here.

  • @rwhit79L
    @rwhit79L 3 года назад +18

    Both are nice but I like the Jensen best.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. It looks like the Jensen is most people’s favourite so far!

  • @shakyj1221
    @shakyj1221 5 месяцев назад

    That was really good playing!

  • @greggalbraith2842
    @greggalbraith2842 Год назад

    An excellent job at accurately (in my opinion and experience anyway) presents the speakers in a realistic and helpful way!

  • @rodneywhite2565
    @rodneywhite2565 2 года назад

    I liked each depending on what was being played. I’ve been wanting a 212 cab for a Friedman head and I’ve been comparing speakers SO…..I’ll get one of each of these put in my cab and that’ll be the fix. Thanks for the demo!!

  • @johnbose7454
    @johnbose7454 4 месяца назад

    Both great. I actually thought the creamback was holding its own in the jazz example! Great video

  • @timothyleonard5056
    @timothyleonard5056 3 года назад +8

    I liked them both. It would depend on which side of the bed I got up on as to which I liked best. Jensen is brighter and Celestion is a little darker and mellower. Would love to hear them matched in a 2 x 12 cabinet.

  • @maksmail
    @maksmail 3 года назад +30

    What suprised me in this clip is that the archtop sounds better to me with the celestion. It seems to me the Jensen is voiced too similar to the archtop - big low end and bright top but misses the mids and the celestion brings the mids out so nicely. Also makes me wonder how these compare in the mix.

    • @KingKook
      @KingKook 2 года назад +4

      Yep. And I thought the Brit did better with the funky stuff, too. But for blues or rock my impulse is towards the Jensen. Now for country twang on a Tele I'd go either way, even tho they're very different sounds. I like both, in different ways.

    • @georgefromgreece4119
      @georgefromgreece4119 Год назад +1

      Agreed

    • @TheJstewart2010
      @TheJstewart2010 20 дней назад +1

      I thought the same thing. This is the only guitar and style where I preferred the Celestion over the Jensen.

  • @stephenatgraceland
    @stephenatgraceland 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for a very useful video. The Jensen sounds livelier for clean tones, but the highs when distorted become unpleasantly piercing. The Celestion tames the upper harshness much better. I am experimenting with a two amp setup with one of each type of speaker. (Vox Ac 30 w/gb speakers is mostly one half.)

  • @m9shamalan
    @m9shamalan 3 года назад +1

    great video, very useful. thank you.

  • @KingKook
    @KingKook 2 года назад +5

    Great demo, the differences and similarities are very clearly evident.
    What ultimately is the dilemma, then, is how does any one particular tone work in the mix of the band? Very often, less range, or less bottom, or less mids work best to not crowd the others, especially vocals.
    So I suppose the choice comes down to one's willingness to maximally exploit whatever tone it is you've got, to make it work best in whatever situation it's placed.
    Adapt, improvise, overcome! 😎

  • @paulsmith1807
    @paulsmith1807 6 месяцев назад

    great video - quite a big difference between them, but I'm not quite sure which one I would choose

  • @timpark8198
    @timpark8198 3 года назад +1

    ...nice job fella. Nice sound quality and it shows you know how to mic.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Thanks! I did my best, it’s really difficult to get a true sound of a speaker from a recording, I hope this helped you!

  • @eggcharmer
    @eggcharmer Год назад

    Thank-you, what a brilliant video to get a ballpark idea of the sound differences between the classic Brit and classic American speaker sound. I liked the different styles of playing you used with and without effects to highlight the difference. In my opinion they are both lovely sounding speakers. If I had to pick one I'd go for the Celestion for the simple reason I use a lot of gain/distortion at times. The Celestion holds up better note definition and clarity when it's being driven harder. And clarity is important to my style of playing. Having said that I do love the warmth and natural character of the Jensen when listening to someone else play through it. But for me the Celestion suits my sound best. Thanks again for clarifying what I couldn't quite ever define in words if someone ever asked the difference between the two or why I chose to use Celestions over other speaker's. I will now redirect them to you.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  Год назад +1

      Glad you found it useful. Yes I agree, the Jensen sounds great but the more gain I seem to use with it the more gritty and 'trashy' it sounds when compared to the smoother, punchier sound of the Celestion. Thanks for commenting!

  • @tysonbittle2807
    @tysonbittle2807 Год назад

    quality video. Just ordered some Celestion v10 Vintage. I have a 2x10 cab (with Jensen C10Qs) and a 71 Bassman head and I'm going to try and do a similar shootout when they come in.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  Год назад

      Sounds cool. And yes, there's no substitute for hearing the gear through your own rig with your own playing so that you can make an honest comparison and decision, good move. Thanks for commenting

  • @johnballantyne3458
    @johnballantyne3458 3 года назад +5

    Great video, thanks for your work. I prefer the Jensen, that’s the vintage Fender sound.

  • @gerardoromano3436
    @gerardoromano3436 Год назад

    Your performance is amazing, love the Jazz part. And the funk part was awesome too. What pickups ar in the sunburst Strat ?? It sounds awesome for a neck pickup (with a great compressor, the best in the market IMHO)

  • @williamfoster1034
    @williamfoster1034 3 года назад +3

    Great video. The Jensen spanks the Celestion on clean sounds but the Celestion kicks ass as soon as overdrive is introduced.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Thanks! Yeah the Celestion fits so well for those high gain sounds. Thanks for Commenting!

  • @j.thorgard
    @j.thorgard 2 года назад

    Preferred the Jensen right up until Rock Distortion when the Celestion killed it with that tone. Thank you for showcasing the speakers under different styles.

  • @scottcarruthers5127
    @scottcarruthers5127 3 года назад +1

    Nice comparison. Good job playing different styles.

  • @BopKitBill
    @BopKitBill Год назад

    Thanks for the comparison. Would you mind sharing your tuning in that end segment? ...Loved it!

  • @Tryggvasson
    @Tryggvasson 3 года назад +3

    it's amazing how much the speaker impacts the tone, more than actually changing the amp. to me, the jensens sound flatter and more neutral overall, with smoother highs - i love that about them. i prefer the celestions for a clean tone with a little bite, exactly for that midrange, although - or maybe because - they sound a lot more scooped. i don't like it that the scoop isolates the lows and that makes them feel a bit out of control, even though there's less of them, and also that they're a bit harsh, but overall i think the mids make up for that. a combination between them would make for the best speaker. or a 2x12 with one of each. i think the celestions would work better on a 2x12, anyway, where the mid-lows would be filled back in a little more, whereas these jensens were designed to balance a 1x12 just right. a humbucker would also have kind of the same effect on the celestions, plus subduing the treble a little. a subtle hint of chorus would focus the mids a little more on the jensens. for jazz. blues, and rock distortion i prefer the jensens, and the celestion for the rest. but i don't think it depends on the generic genre, as much as on the specific tone you're going for. great comparison, and nice playing!

  • @BASHA1612
    @BASHA1612 3 года назад +7

    Came here to decide which speakers I want but shiieet, now I need both speakers and another amp.

  • @dindin3394
    @dindin3394 4 года назад +2

    Nice video. And nice playing...Thanks

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад +1

      Thanks! Hope it was helpful. Did you have a favourite out of the two speakers?

    • @dindin3394
      @dindin3394 4 года назад +1

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Yes I have, I liked the Jensen a lot, to be exact I ordered the c12q which is a little bit different than the c12n. I think it has less low end and it's a little bit brighter. But in this video I prefered the c12n. I guess this is subjective and it also depends on the amp we use...

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад +1

      Yeah I think of the C12q as a slightly lower powered version of the C12n, probably a bit more open and airy sounding I would expect. They use that speaker in the Fender handwired 64' Deluxe Reverb. Hope it works for you, and yes I agree, it is all subjective!

  • @claudiosuarez1256
    @claudiosuarez1256 3 года назад +4

    Celestion Creamback its my favourite xD i have one and i love how it color the sound of everything , but the Italian is a legend and a very sweet speaker too ;) , Happy new year for all you people ! xD

  • @danielkelley3439
    @danielkelley3439 3 года назад +9

    I have a Deluxe Reverb, Like the American speaker for it. Want it sound the way it intended. I have AC30 and a Plexi for the British voice stuff.

  • @FLAMENCO961
    @FLAMENCO961 Год назад

    excelent video!

  • @TheRealDavidEllis
    @TheRealDavidEllis Год назад +1

    Excellent video, thanks! What was originally in the amp? A C12K? If so, was there much difference between that and the C12N?

  • @MintStiles
    @MintStiles 3 года назад

    Excellent demo. Both are great speakers; just different. The mids on the celestion is great for A hard rock sound. The Jensen has a nice clean voice to it. Not sure how it will do it the mix, but sounds great on its own.

  • @jamesleakey247
    @jamesleakey247 3 года назад +1

    Epic playing!

  • @EightNineOne
    @EightNineOne 4 года назад +3

    Fantastic video, I'd love to see more of these! I'm looking to build my own cab and I'm torn between a Jensen and a Celestion. In most of the examples I preferred the Jensen, more sparkly and generally cleaner/clearer sounding. New subscriber right here :)

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад +1

      Hey thanks for the sub! I'm only just learning how to make the videos at the moment but I have some more coming up so keep an eye on the channel and let me know if there's anything you'd like to see more of. Hope the cab build goes well!

  • @guilhermecesariodomingues1703
    @guilhermecesariodomingues1703 4 года назад +1

    Great video, I have a Jensen C12N, but Celestion Creamback is awesome

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад +1

      Thanks! It does have a great sound, I’m thinking of putting mine in a separate cab so I can switch between the two depending on what I’m doing.

    • @guilhermecesariodomingues1703
      @guilhermecesariodomingues1703 4 года назад

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar is a great idea, I was thinking in 2x12 cab with Creamback and C12N together

  • @BJKAdventures22
    @BJKAdventures22 3 года назад

    Great job👍

  • @rondelio8562
    @rondelio8562 3 года назад +1

    The Celestion cream all day! I was suprised, since I built a 12 in speaker box with a Jensen MOD in it, and the MOD sounds good with a hint of vintage to it.

  • @richsadowsky8580
    @richsadowsky8580 3 года назад

    Great video. My preferences based on your video. For clean, I preferred the Jensen on the Fender amp. Classic sound. For rock it was the Celestion. Clean funk was a harder choice. Both were good and I pick the Celestion by a hair. For blues overdrive the only solution would be to have both. Each brought a different set of attributes. I could perhaps summarize saying the Jensen was clean, clear and pleasant, while the Celestion was similar but with a darker edge. For rock distortion both speakers were tasty but quite different. Neither would be a bad choice and both would be awesome. The Jensen sounded mean and fuzzy whole the Celestion sounded fat and bold. Currently I have one 16ohm Celestion Alnico Blue with a couple of low wattage tube heads and combos. Currently playing a Blackstar Studio 10 KT88 a lot with the Blue. Looking to add a second cab with something voiced differently like a Jensen C12n, Cannabis Rex, or even a different voiced Celestion like V30 or Greenback. I am leaning toward the Jensen to give me the perfect British and American options. Would typically run both with close mic-ing so I could mix the tones. Also would use a room mic to get the full effect of the blended tones. In this video, both speakers are winners and I think the Jensen is my missing link because I have the Celestion sound in spades through the Blue. I would have to rethink everything if I needed a higher wattage amp, but in general I am running between 5 - 22 watts all tube amps. Also have a small 8 inch combo that I may upgrade the speaker. Upgrading speakers is certainly one of the cheapest and most effective ways to mod an amp (though it is hard to think of my recently acquired Celestion Alnico Blue as cheap!).

  • @jonunderscore
    @jonunderscore 2 года назад

    Lover Man! Nice rendition!

  • @leonardanzelde9259
    @leonardanzelde9259 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great and timely video. I'm in the middle of searching for a speaker to replace the G12V-70 in my Fender Custom Deluxe Reverb. I wasn't sure if I wanted to change to an American type, but your video convinced me and was one of the few where humbuckers are used with a Fender amp. While the American speakers don't have the crunch and midrange chime that the British do, and they don't stick out in a mix as well, they do have a more balanced tone. I'll probably go with a Eminence Alessandro GA-SC64 in the end, so hopefully it works out well with my Les Paul and OCD type distortion pedals. I'd hate to lose that lower midrange peak I get from the OCD.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад

      Leonard Anzelde thanks! I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Eminence GA-SC64. Let us know how it works out for you.

    • @leonardanzelde9259
      @leonardanzelde9259 4 года назад +1

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Just to give an update, I decided to go with a GA-SC64. Sounds pretty good. Does have a tighter low end and less mids than the original G12V-70. I like them both for different reasons. I'll need to play with the GA-SC64 a while more and see how it sounds after it breaks in a bit (I need to turn down my treble right now so it's not too ice picky with my LPs).

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  4 года назад

      @@leonardanzelde9259 Cool. Apparently big percussive clean tones at high volume are good to get the speaker moving and broken in. Oh, and make sure the pickups in your les Pauls aren't set too high, after playing around with mine I decided I like them set pretty low as it seems to ease the attack, sounds a little softer and more open. It might help reduce any ice pick highs you're getting, just a thought anyway.

  • @xoverinfinity
    @xoverinfinity Год назад

    Fantastic playing, both sound good. I have a carvin vintage 16, and I am trying to find a speaker to brighten up the El84s.

  • @robertovaccai
    @robertovaccai 2 года назад

    Great review, personally I prefer the Jensen.
    Except in the Clean Funk where I like the G12M the most. In Jazz Clean I don't find any differences I like them both. thank you

  • @bneum
    @bneum 3 года назад +6

    Dude, high quality video! All around, literally every aspect! Including your riffage, brother!

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Hey thanks for the nice comment Brandon that's really kind of you! Did you have a favourite of the two speakers?

    • @bneum
      @bneum 3 года назад +1

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Not a problem, man! And i would probably say overall I slightly prefer the jensen to the celestion? it's so hard, I've been swapping back and forth in my own amp between a WGS G12C/S and WGS ET-65, and I like one and then I like the other, and then I play the british and it sounds amazing, and then I find a weird little thing it does that I don't like. I wish there was a combination of both sounds together in one speaker. I found the Celestion A Type and that sounds like it's up my alley, but its 50w and my amp is 65w solid state. I guess overall though, the american sound is what I prefer, although there are elements about the british tone that can't be beat.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Brandon Neumann I think I get where you’re coming from. I’ve heard very good things about those WGS speakers. How about putting one in a separate cab? Radial do a pedal that can switch between cabs too if you wanted to go all out!

    • @bneum
      @bneum 3 года назад +1

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Not a bad idea! never really considered that I guess haha

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Brandon Neumann it might be worth looking into. I think that’s what I’m going to do with my celestion. Hope that you find the tone you’re after anyway.

  • @krauz111
    @krauz111 2 года назад +1

    nice comparsion

  • @benedekgabor.
    @benedekgabor. 3 года назад +2

    Tasteful playing. Loved that. My choice would be the Celestion as an overall better speaker, to my ears. I like that it's not harsh on the ears as opposed to the Jensen. I don't say that it's not a useable or good sound, but the celestion is way warmer.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  3 года назад

      Thanks for commenting! Yes I agree, if you find Jensen harsh or shrill, the Celestion can be a good alternative to try.

  • @MrNeurotix
    @MrNeurotix 3 года назад +1

    As you mentioned, it's all about taste. Both sound great but are different flavours. For a clean sound, I prefer the Jensen, while for the more driven sound, I'd chose the Celestion. Thanks for the video :)

  • @4034miguel
    @4034miguel 3 года назад +3

    I really loved the clarity of the Jensen. The Rock Overdrive example sounded great. Thanks for an enjoyable video.