Fender Blues Junior vs Bassbreaker 15 - Who's the Daddy???
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new drinking game. Drink every time Rob starts a lick with a high register bend followed by some quick shredding.
hahahahaaaaha
I don't want to die from alcohol poisoning
HouseofChains81 oh crap IDE have to have a bottle of whisky every night then
HouseofChains81 ha! good point!
mankind hasn't produced enough alcohol yet.
It's amazing, fender have created the marshall vs fender argument within their own company
It's kinda genius, if Fender can make amps with both sounds, then why buy anything else? Those who don't know anything other than name brands might opt for the reputation of the Fender corporation...
I believe the bass breaker is just the beginning of a new line of amps for fender. They will maintain their original Amos that they're known for, but also continue to advance with these modern "high gainish" Amps
+Benjamin Jayko well, you ain't gonna drag me away from orange, fender, not yet you don't.
CrazyJoe Me neither! I'm a huge fan of Orange, Matchless, Friedman etc... but I played one of these Bassbreakers at GC the other day and was impressed!
I have Marshall Dsl40 and a bass breaker 15 and they sound nothing alike
The most noticeable difference between these two amps and important to know, I have a Bassbreaker and have had a Jnr, is the jump in volume you get with the Blues Jnr. The Jnr goes from silent to loud In tenth of a millimetre turn on the volume knob which makes it difficult for home use. The Bassbreaker's volume is progressively smooth from silent to loud.
How you would describe a clean sounds on bouth? Isnt a BB15 much boxier like 2d clean sound?
@@bertonedes I had a BB15 and didn't like it. The clean sound is nothing to write home about and the overdrive is just very dry. The smaller 007 is a better sounding amp all around and better for home use. It's got a 10-inch speaker which works better for Fender amps. Yes, the BB series is Marshall like, but still has a lot of Fender DNA and I think would be better served with 10-inch speakers because they compress the sound more and you need that with a Fender.
@@angusorvid8840 Hey, i bought it aniway. And now i like it. 2 years i have it now. Overdrive is one BIG NO NO! I use rather pedals, and its fine. For gig-home situations, its perfect. Cleans are more Fenderish than Marschallish.....but yes, it has nothing to do with a Priceton vibe on example.
"One stage more is one stage better".
- Chappers, 2016.
o hai
"It's one better..."
New rule, every 60 seconds you have to play a complete song before you can go back to the dialog. Complete song, 60 seconds dialog then complete song. etc.
Unless it’s stage 4 cancer....hee hee
I'm not just saying this because I've had a Blues Junior for the past 15 years, but the Blues Junior just fills up the room with round and beautiful sonic goodness. I'd take it over the Bassbreaker any day. It just has THE sound you're looking for out of a Fender amp.
If I were after "crunch", Vox's AV30 would be my go-to (at half the price of either of the Fender options).
Plus, it might only be 10%, but the Blues Junior IS still less expensive.
I really do enjoy Lee's playing. Rob is definitely insanely good, but Lee plays more my style and leaves more space between his notes, a la David Gilmour.
Totally agree
the more i watch their videos the more i enjoy Lee's playing. its weird because at first rob caught my attention more but now i find it somehow boring and repetitive
i wouldn't call him boring or repetitive but lee's tone is just smooth
For my taste Rob shreds a bit too much. He's still a great player tho
Rob plays like a fkn robot 90% of the time.
Been using the Blues JR for over 10 years. Aint found anything better to lug around and bring tone on stage in most clubs. Always get a thumbs up from other players about tone.
Great playing guys.
I have to say - I absolutely LOVED Captain Lee's playing in this video. The tone that he achieved with the amplifier(and pedals), and his casual, soulful playing... it made my jaw drop. What a musician. Also, his lead play during the jams(in all videos) just fits magnificently.
Sorry for lots of words. Much love.
Everyone knows that real men settle their rig differences with a blindfold sound-off challenge!
Girly men do it like this.
YES PLEASE!!!
I shoog the other men
Sorry autocorrect *shag
The Blues Jr is gods gift to a Telecaster. For me there is just no better combination.
Thanks for the tip - I was enjoying the Blues Jr's sound, but my Tele is my go to guitar so I'm sold
Yeah, id go with a tele and a plexi. Not to mention a tele and some of those old Valco made amps, like the mid wattage Supro's back in the day. But i have played through a blues jr a lot, and they are great. I own one.
Ive got a Dr Z Maz 18 and the right tele is fucking unbelievable. El84's
If you compare 2 amps, you use the same guitar. 'Scientific method': hold some variables constant (player, guitar, cable), change other variables (amps).
Rj Bron if here the same pickups the difference between the two guitars wouldn’t be much. on of that as long as they’re humbuckers they should sound similar enough anyway
@@darklinkduck2275 as long as the guitars have the same kind of Humbuckers .. do they?...Still i would disagree anyway...
You can have two (or more) people play the same guitar and it would sound different or each one of them.
One player on one guitar could sound different when on a different amp because it's a different time playing. Best way is to have each player record some loops from a few different guitars then feed the looper into each amp for comparison.
@@patrickg2410stop it
I would like to recommend placing a camera over the amps so that everybody can see where the dials are turned to. You know, for easily recreating tones and stuff.
Thank you for all your amazingly helpful videos. Love you guys!
They took your advice.
It's funny. Most of us, when we first started learning guitar, wanted to be able to shred like Rob one day. As we age, or at least with me, we start to appreciate the subtle and soulful way that Lee plays. So much expression with such lack of volume.
Reuben Bragg speak for yourself 😂 always disliked shredding, even when i started playing
Music v acrobatics
That’s a negative bud.
Well. Actually Lee learned to play alongside Rob last 5 to 10 years or so. Back in the days he left it all to Rob.
Rob is rock and shredding.
Lee is Blues and soloing.
Everyone it s own pick.
I don't know who's the daddy he walked out years ago
I bought my Blues Junior amp 20 yrs ago for $115 still have it
$175.37 adjusted for inflation. I was compelled to look that up for some reason. Good deal!
I think it was retail for $350 available the 1st year so it wasn't that great of a deal but close enough
Twenty years. Need to change the tubes much? Thanks!
Still have the same mother too?
Why what happened to your mom ? Why would I have a different mother...
I love how affordable and great small Fender tube combos are. You can't beat that sound at that price. If Gibson made these, they'd be at least twice as expensive and no better.
Rob mastered the guitar, moved on to Dark Souls for a new challenge
It's so hard!!!!
+Rob Chapman "That's what she said"
I would pay good money to see this
+Rob Chapman in all honesty - a "Chappers does Dark Souls" series would probably be the one non-guitar related video series I'd love to see from you :P
I would love to see them take the sound from the game and replace monster screams with djent!
You should use colored cables so you can immediately tell who's playing what.
The Captain is really getting good. Nice touch. Tasty vibrato.
Oh shit ... I need an Blues Junior. It sounds just perfect!
We need an Andertons Podcast w/ Rob & Lee!
Not a bad idea at all!!!!
fack yea main
Maybe an Anderton's Lounge with all the usual contributors popping in or out.
yesssss
Alec_Sander_ n
The Blues Junior's tone fits my playing style a little better but to be honest I'd take either one cause they both sound great!
I just discovered the fender blues junior and I have finally found my sound!!! Les Paul + Blues Junior just works so well.
I think the reason the Blues Jr is so popular is because it is loud enough to rehearse and gig with but small and light enough to jump in the back of a cab with.
After owning my Bassbreaker for a little longer I can tell you that I have fallen in love with it and I don't need my Blues Jr. I still won't sell it because this is the second one I've owned and if I sell it I will probably buy another one in a few years. The Bassbreaker I have is the FSR Limited Edition with Midnight Oil tolex and the black and white grill cloth that comes stock with the Celestion Greenback Speaker. I actually much prefer the look and sound of mine to the original version.
Also the effects loop is pretty noisy on the Bassbreaker. You absolutely need an isolated power supply to use it. Modulation is especially noisy though it. If you daisy chain effects it sounds like the amp is turned up really loud at all volumes and if you have a chorus or phaser you hear swirls of hum. This is after they fixed it too, apparently the earlier versions were unusable. I still highly recommend this amp.
Guys!!! This NEEDS to be on TV, this will be as amazing as Top Gear (or was) please please please make this a TV show!!! Love you guys!
It is already on a medium that far exceeds the reach of Television - an audience of over 3 billion
well in a way he is on TV, but in this case it's RUclips.
I think Jeff Beck uses the PRO Junior, which is slightly different. But Noel Gallagher uses a Blues Junior
Yessss! This is what I've been waiting for! Idk if you saw my request for this video but thanks for making it anyway Rob and Lee!
I don’t even live in the UK, I just love watching these videos
I use these 2 amps together in a stereo set-up OR a wet/dry set-up. They are very different. Nice when played together.The Jr is scoopy and has a better clean tone. The bassbreaker is very mid oriented. Be aware that the extra gain in the structure med and hi comes from an analog circuit (TS style ) in the effect loop. Actually you can reproduce the structure med gain tones with a TS in the effect loop while structure is in low position....You can reproduce structure hi gain by adding a second TS overdrive in the effect loop with structure in low position....
Rob and Lee, I'm from Germany and I watch almost all of your videos here on youtube, because you both have a lot of experience and it is really fun to watch!!! The comparison between the blues junior and the bassbreaker makes a lot of sense. But why didn't you use the same guitars or at least the same PUs and/or the same pedals in order to get a let's say "native" comparison?
Hey guys, Can't thank you enough for your reviews on the Bass Breaker series. I have spent almost a year researching and trying out amps in the 10 to 30 watt range. Have played $1,500 amps down to $300 (used Peavey Classic 30). Finally settled on a used Bass Breaker 15 head. Play it through a 2x12 cab with Celestion GH-12 35 watt (circa 1991) speakers. One tip - the middle gain setting with the master turned up almost all the way - supper bluesy lead tone, but more importantly, roll back the volume and it's the amp's loudest cleans with almost no grit. One other tip - I run an ancient Fostex solid state spring reverb through the effects loop. Holly Hell !!!!! The other guitar player in the band plays a Dr. Z Maz Jr. He was absolutely flabbergasted at the BB's debut rehearsal. Tonal BLISS!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!
I just got the blues junior today and I absolutely *LOVE IT*
You guys at Andertons should do a modern modeling/practice amp shootout again!
no
Just buy the Marshall CODE
lol thata piece of *&^&, just buy tube and get it over with.
Christ no more modeling amp shootouts. Most modeling amps suck except the Fender Mustangs are decent
Lee's Cap10 has such a chunky gain sound in the bridge when mixed with the drive and bass of the Bassbreaker and that's the sound I'd go for. So, personally, I believe the Bassbreaker is much better for diversity.
The Junior kinda just does what it says on the tin but I respect that so much. It's an amp for people who know what they want.
If I am ever looking for a proper demo, I know you guys will always deliver. Fantastic.
You guys are the most likeable music related youtube channel, keep it up. oh ye im still waiting on the distortion,gain,overdrive differences/tips video
Blues Junior does to me sound more richer and dynamic
My phone went of because chappers uploaded a video , teachers mad right now...
ha I'm off school for half term
+2nd hand circle VEVO same
Schools out for me today :)
"Say 'gain' one more time Rob I swear to god..." - Lee's inner monologue
the sound levels are all over the shop
phew - thought it was my ears. Can hardly hear the Junior at times
Probably because chapman uses too much pedal gain through loud pickups.. throws the whole mix out
I did this same AB comparison in guitar center. Both had great clean tones...the bassbreaker was a bit warmer and the bluesjunior a bit chimier. The bassbreaker obviously has more sound options but it only has one channel so I'm going to use pedals to get gain sounds anyways. The real deal breaker was all of the modern features on the bassbreaker. More tonal options for recording, an XRL out, an fx loop. The blues junior doesn't seem to do low "apartment" volumes well too, the volume really jumps up as you increase the master volume
that bassbreaker sounds like a $2000 boutique amp no shiz.. what a lovely sound
Rob's playing in this video really gives me a Gary Moore vibe, which is a compliment. Great video guys!
I'm calling for a Blues Junior vs Blues Junior Tweed blindfold.
Every tweed I've ever heard always sounded 10x better than the normal version, no blindfold needed.
Jeremy G its the jensen speaker
@@DavidRFIT I agree completely. They're not the same amp. The Tweed has a Jensen speaker and is modeled after the old Fender Deluxe amps. The Black tolex version is modeled from the Hot Rod series and has a Celestion speaker.
Lee is such a tasteful player
Hi guys @andertons...
Impossible to compare the reverb sound of both amps because reverb tail is being levelled up when guitar tone decays by a compressor in the recording chain (or by youtube).
For me the "blues junior" sounds more organic and harmonically rich. Perhaps an example that the recorded sound (what a closed mic hear) can be a completely different thing compared to the impression of the sound in the room.
loving the captains playing so soulful
Thank you for this great review.. I was so impressed with your review I purchased the 15w Head and a 1x12 cabinet. Got it today and I am completely blown away! Thanks to you.. I have an awesome sounding rig! Keep up the good work!
DSL 15, AC 15, and a Tweed Blues Junior shootout.
with mid priced guitars would be a nice video to see
Both are great little amps.
after playing both because I was a fan of both I would say that the blues Jr was basically plug and play I couldn't get a bad sound and though I got a sound I was happy with on the bassbreaker it did take more work than the jr did.
The Bassbreaker 15 is the best thing since sliced bread! For one its affordable and is a great practice amp. You can also gig with it by paring it with a cab!
There was some kind of funny volume compression happening on the amp mics that made it difficult to hear some of the cleaner - milder licks; as the volume dropped very low. Then - at the very end of each lick - as the amp volume faded - the compression kicked back out and the video volume increased a lot for a second. It wasn't good - very different than the sound handling on most of your videos. Whatever that was - let's hope you don't do that any more. Otherwise - a great comparison video !!
I agree with ya. The reverb seemed to kick in on Lee's guitar after he had stopped playing.
Your hearing the mic switch from the amp to the voices is all. In post editing, they go from the amp mic to the speaking mic, and when they switch to the voice mic, you're still hearing the live amp in the background.
It's super annoying. "listen to this reverb.." And the 'verb gets cut off after a second and they start speaking over it in the background.
Yeah. Sudden Volume & Reverb Surge ? It really threw-me-off.
It's probably gotta do with the fact that the amps were mic'd and whoever edited the video went back and forth between the amp mics and the overhead mics for Rob and Lee's voices.
I own a Jnr and I popped into my local guitar shop to try the BB. Very different beasts but I did prefer the jnr. Its got more range on it id say, The BB sounds very scooped.
Thanks a lot guys..... I went out and bought the bassbreaker 15 head because of you!! Can't wait to fire it up at home with a proper cab!!!! You guys rock!
I've been looking for an in-depth video such as this one for ages! Thank you so much!
You can get gain out of a Blues Junior by just turning the master down and the volume up
I finally tried out the Ass blaster and compared it to the Jr at my local shop. Even tho it was quit versatile it wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be. The Jr"s clean won me over and the spring reverb kills. . I got It with an Xotic SL overdrive and it screams!
I love playing my American Special tele through my bassbreaker 15. It’s so good.
blue junior is the tele to the bassbreakers start. they're both amazing, just the bassbreaker wins in versatility. but as a guy who plays almost exclusively clean tones i do not regret buying my blues junior. phenomenal amplifier.
start => strat
lees playing has become so sweet!
I've tried both of these amps and I'll probably try them again after watching this but for my needs I think the Blues Jr. is just a little too loud! One of my favorite things about the Bassbreaker is that you can set it at a fairly low volume and still get that great fender tone! Still hoping I get to own both someday though! These are just two great amps period!
I tried them both in the store. The clean sound on the blues jr is so much better then the bassbreaker. I thought the bassbreaker would be classic fender clean tone and marshall gain type sound but the clean sound in my opinion wasn't there on the bassbreaker.
When playing at home you can crank your volume knob and keep the master really low and it gives you a gainy grainy rock tone without need for a pedal. Works well if you're on a tight budget but want to have "pickupability" if you're into a heavier sound. Personally I'm just as happy playing clean, but I thought I'd share.
Is it just me or was Lee's guitar recorded too low?
No, it wasn't just you, levels seemed massively out of whack
Is it just me or am I all on my own again??
+BiteThePillowImGoingDry You are a figment of your own imagination...
I think we've got a different song man :D - Im talking about "is it just me" by the Darkness
+BiteThePillowImGoingDry Ah I see, thought you were being sarcastic there!
Blues Jr sounds way more full and has a better breakup. You can't beat it
full??
it's a musician's term, you wouldn't understand it
I would never have described a Blues Junior as sounding "full"... "Thin", "reedy" and "prone to flatulence" comes to mind.
The Paranoid Blues Man mabye to you but I dont agree the terms your using are literally sayi ng that its not a great sounding amp thin idk what your talking about this amp is very round if you know what that means but I really disagree with you saying thin have you ever played one I would think that you have just from your name and I would think you would like it because alot of blues players love the tone of that amp it is one of the most popular amps out right now especially for a smaller amp
i own a blues jr iii and its not a full sounding amp. it was very bright and no bass before the mods and c-rex speaker. my super champ xd with rajun cajun sounded tons better on channel 1 clean. the jr still really doesnt sound that great after the mods. with distortion or tube screamer it sounds decent, but on clean the notes just are not defined or super clear. for $600 there is probably better choices. i would save and get a deluxe reverb. the best clean amp ive ever heard was a twin reverb.
I really love this show :)
i could watch this all the time.
Absolute favourite youtube channel!!!
Reverb Comparison (listening thru apple buds): I found the bass breaker 15's verb had a bit more clarity to it. It allowed you to hear the distinct notes when playing lead with a solid verb trail. The Blues Jr had that classic ol' school verb sound. It sounded like a larger space which is great for ambient tones, but didn't have the same clarity as the bass breaker. Both amps are awesome and choosing one or the other is not any easier :(
You could get gain out of the Blues Jr. by turning the volume up and keeping the master volume down and then using the boost. I have the tweed version and the gain from the amp with a clean boost in front sounds incredible.
That's how I use mine, with the fat switch
yes but the non-tweed version sounds like donkey dick. I fucking hate mine. I swear I'm going to sell that piece of shit this weekend. I love the bassbreaker 15 by comparison.
The test would also need to be how reliable will the Bassbreaker prove to be Vs. the Blues Jr. over time. They both sound great.
This comparison is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks guys :)
Great demo and like the pictures of the pedals coming up on screen great idea
I'd rather get the one that sounds better clean and use pedals for the dirt
Stinkfist2000 Trust me, if you don't like the amps dirt on its own, you won't like it with whatever pedal you put in front of it.
Thats not really true for me. I have a H&K tm18 and the lead channel sounds really shitty and fizzy to me, but with my Soulfood, Joyo VO, Joyo UD and my Plush Drive in the clean channel it sounds great.
Stinkfist2000 not me
I'd rather buy an amp with killer distortion and never play clean :p
mechmat12345 well that's kinda limiting. what do you play? punk?
I really think that when they review amps they should show the settings.
This video reminds me of the old videos with those guitars, you guys are awesome.
You guys are the Top Gear(Clarkson/May/Hammond version) of gear reviews. Cheers from Nashville...y'all. (I don't ever actually say y'all...or cheers.)
good to see the ml2 getting some love :) it's been a while!!
I wish it looked a bit closer to the Les Paul it's obviously based on. The additional cutaway, total lack of binding/inlay and having only three pots - all looks a bit odd. I really don't like string-through guitars either, but that's just me.
They should do a Fender Bassbreaker 15 Vs. Vox AC-15 because they are literally the same price and the Vox can actually get gain out of it.
That's a good one, but why not the blues jr. or the pro junior vs AC 15. They're all 15 watts.
+greyharmonix The Blues Junior and the Pro Junior don't really distort that much when the volume is turned up whereas the Vox AC15 and the Bassbreaker actually distort pretty easily.
Lies. I own a pro junior. It breaks up after 9 o'clock on the volume control.
+Mark Jones ??!??! The blues jr is dirtier than the ac15. Crank the volume, turn down the master
+MrBingping I disagree. The AC15 Sounds SO much more aggressive!
You know it's good when the Captain eschews his "not bad" face and goes straight to his "awh" face.
the cap'n has been playing really really well lately! Good job bud you sound fantastic!
bruh I'm getting bassbreaker 15 can't go wrong with this one
there needs to be a blindfold challenge...
Not that difficult
I totally agree with the conclusion of the video. You can't go wrong with either amp.
That Blues Jr. clean is sweet but needs to be louder in comparison. Love you guys, great demo!
Is it just me or did the audio become really low during some of the guitar parts?
josh grant nah it's the mic set up.
When they play they switch over to the mic sound.
You two should do a micro amp shootout, so like the blackstar fly3 vs the mini marshall ones, etc.
They're all terrible
I’ve gotten some great crunch out of a blues junior I love them
Blues Jr by light years IMO but I buy Fender amps for clean tone and reverb. I still prefer tube Marshalls for gain...Vox has great gain as well
Blues Junior all day. But. it's hard to tell really. I'd rather just see this video as a showcase of Chapman guitars, and playing styles for both participants.
Remove the limiter / compressor, all the post-processing that was done on the audio for an uncompromising comparison. Turn the amps down a bit, but also keep the tubes heated. We need RAW sound. Personally, I'd go for the Blues Junior and *A LOT* more blues playing. ;D
Cheers
The blues Jr. just has "that" sound. I love mine and for the last 5 years haven't felt like I need a new amp or a better sound. If I were to feel that way someday I would go for a more expensive Fender than the Bass-breaker, or just mod my blue Jr.
I love my Mesa/ Boogie Express 5:50. Best $700 I spent on an amp(used/ great deal). $1200 amp that will appreciate in value over time if Mesa still has such a name in the industry. www.premierguitar.com/articles/mesa-boogie-express-5-50-combo-1
Why use pedals when reviewing an amp? People wanna hear the amp sound!
Ralphington84 Yes but we need to know how it sounds taking pedals.
@Zach Perry Modern metal amps such as a Peavy 6505, Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier and Diezel Herbert are designed to be played with the master volume quite low, since the genre requires a tight tone, which you cannot achieve with a cranked tube amp
I'm not trynna be picky, but they used really different guitars too, would've been more accurate if they would've been taking similar ones.
Dudes! You always present entertaining and informative reviews. I think you guys are the mutts nuts . . . .
My only caveat might be:
For me, when comparing two amps, I want to hear the amps, not a couple of pedals over the top, because I can't make a judgement on the amp if all I'm hearing is the pedals ;)
I did take the Princeton or deluxe reverb over either one of these amps any day
Do a video of a Bassbreaker 45 and a Hot Rod Deluxe III. That would be interesting.
I've played both extensively, much prefer the blues jr. Seems more natural and organic. The bass breaker is kinda sterile IMO.
I look at repairability after tone. The Bassbreaker sounds great, but I did check out the videos from service people and the bass breaker failed big time. They call it the land fill Amp. After taking it apart to show how difficult it is to repair, I made my choice.
As stated in the end of the video... There is only one solution. Buy both. Then get an A/B switch and use one for clean, one for crunch and an OD or boost pedal for the lead tone.
i had to get rid of my 60 watt deville and traded it in for the 007 bassbreaker and the amp rocks harder than the second gain stage on my deville. i do miss reverb, so this 15 is the answer i think for most budget buyers. pedals can add up in cost so someone sitting in an apartment looking for a good fender clean and some good proper gain, get a bassbreaker. you will love it!
When they switch guitars you can hear the bassbreaker isn't as dynamic as the blues jr. The heavy sound of the bassbreaker is really good but the clean and crunch isn't as good as the bluse jr. The bassbreaker is good if you want to shred to a backing track cracked really loud but when you go play in a rock band with real songs Blues Junior kicks its butt and it's frustrating because I have the base breaker. Lol
It's like watching a couple of mates. Brilliant stuff.
The more i watch those the more i love Lee's playing.