THANK YOU for not shooting a steel target for the test! So many channels will shoot at a steel target in suppressor videos and it defeats the whole purpose
So happy I just purchased a Polonium K. I know it wasn't in this, but its performance vs size vs value is close to unbeatable at this moment. Great Video!
No personal experience with either the polo or polo k (yet) but from what I have read and from pew science testing, the k is noticeably less gassy while compromising sound performance
It's hard to get all the same hosts. Maybe we'll get a setup where we can swap muzzle devices at the range. We've got a 20+ 5.56 host suppressor comparison video in the works.
Yes, we're planning a night video. All hosts will be a close as possible, probably 10.3-12.5. We're planning to capture shots with both a standard camera and behind a PVS14.
It can be difficult to get a good idea on each can if they're fired on multiple firearms with different barrel lengths/components, love the idea of the comparison though!
We try to get close but some mounts, such as the AE brakes, are only set to fit on certain platforms. We may hot-swap muzzle devices on the range one of these days in order to keep the host the same.
I was impressed with the polo and seirra 5. Considering the size of the seirra 5 makes it all the more impressive. If it wasn't for DAs qa debacle, that can would be getting a lot of love.
@@MemoryCovenew ones should be good to go. I have one with about 2k rounds through it, no issues. And it’s super comfortable to shoot even without ear pro at all lol.
I came across this looking for a video on the OCL Polonium. And I have to say, for the price, it seems like a really great suppressor. As much as I would love a Surefire, I cannot justify that price tag. My local shop has the OCL for $579, and I'm thinking that will do just fine.
The rifle with the OCM5 was the only one that wasn't super overgassed. I wouldn't have thought that the smaller cans would have added so much bolt velocity, but maybe the rifles were gassy beforehand (which is pretty common.) You wouldn't believe how many people have commented about my guns throwing casings in the 3-5 o'clock range and said it was "inconsiderate." Though im guessing they're the same folks that shoot maybe 200 rounds per year and think that screwing a few pieces together & driving some pins qualifies as a "build." Eh, just need a little insight/education i suppose. I appreciate the back-to-back comparison montage at the end though. I wish more folks would do that. But It's also virtually impossible to get a real sense of what each setup sounds like in a video (specifically with a camera/audio setup that levels the noise and compresses everything.) But there's not a lot you can do for that, unfortunately. I just enjoy this format. I think you may have gotten lucky that the wind was at your back so the gas was immediately blown away from your face. That shit sucks. There's nothing that can ruin a good time like your rifle making you feel like you're crying 😆😂
Nice comparison. The Polo is such a great value. That mini mk12 with the ocm5 seemed l like the only rifle that wasn't horrifically over gassed. Was it tuned with an agb or brt ez tune?
@@joesrcool Very nice! H3 is a lot of buffer! I would if it would be flatter shooting with a BRT EZ Tune and a lighter buffer. It's probably super reliable as is, though.
It runs so well the way it is, I'm planning on not messing with it. Now my LMT guns, they may be getting some BRT tubes. I put one in the 13.5in .308, and it's a whole new gun.
Sierra 5 for the win. Picked up one from primary for $580…..comes with the muzzle device….I’ve run around 1500 rounds through it on multiple uppers (mostly my dd 10.3 mk18) it’s solid. Don’t believe the bs. Make sure it’s on right and it’ll be fine.
It's going to be great when suppressors are no longer regulated. Suddenly there will be thousands of people building suppressors in their home . workshop. People will be able to buy a top of the line can for about 300 bucks. Current prices are criminal.
The wind made it a bit hard to tell, The longer suppressor was louder and the mini was louder I think... they type of sound was hard to pin down thou from the wind. they make different types of sounds like deeper vs shallow....
I could barely tell a difference between each brand. I only heard a difference when it got smaller it was a bit louder. I'm sure some brands probably heat up easier though, I'm getting an aero small form factor .30cal suppressor I would like to see you test that.
Im assuming thats a Warcomp on the Mk18? You can see it jetting gas out of the mount under the can once you shoot a few rapidly. I had to swap mine for a brake but it brought the sound down *VERY* noticeably
I think the Dead Air Sierra 5 and OCM5 and Polonium all sounded really really good. The OCM5 was the quietest for sure. And it’s amazing seeing the Polonium hang with these other more expensive cans. I actually bought a Polonium.
The Polonium sounds ever so slightly quieter to our ears, but not by much. It is a larger suppressor. Both run circles around the Surefire options (in terms of perceived quietness).
I really like the OCL & the Sierra 5. I need to check price on them now. They were close in sound and gas going back to the shooter which was a lot better than the surefire's deal.
Would be ideal if you had used the same rifle for all the cans as a control to rule out sound differences due to barrel length and gas system variabilties.
Yup. I've been browsing ebay. Then trying to find the right mics and calibration tools, let alone documentation on how to use it all.... It's been quite the endeavor.
Question? Was all the ammo the same as well as subsonic? Has anyone out there ever done a decimal test with all the different ammo types/variations? Suppose you have a barrel and a supressor that is pin and welded, does that make a difference in sound? Has anyone done a sound test in relating to direct impingement vs gas piston driven? Side question? Does anyone know what the psi inside the barrel once the projectile is fired? Is there a sound/psi relation?
This run used all the same ammo. We've run a suppressed night comparison with different ammo, but we were just looking at flash signature, not sound. Barrel length has been proven to change suppressed sound levels, Griffin does some good videos with different barrel lengths using the same can/ammo. I'm sure a DI/Piston comparison has been done. We have plenty of each at similar barrel lengths we could compare. Higher pressure rounds will likely make more sound. Some rifle cans are rated to support 4000ft/lbs of energy and higher.
I liked seeing the direction of the brass ejecting, which alludes to back pressure. A little disappointed to see how over-gassed Surefire cans make the gun. OTL for the best flow through win.
I wouldn't read too far into this, as each host was different. If we were to use the same rifle for all the cans, then you could make a better comparison. This is something we'll try to do in the future, we just need to select a host and acquire more mounts.
between the polonium and ocl which sounds quieter? It seems almost the same in the video so I feel like the polonium is a much better choice in price and length and weight, the ocl is aesthetically pleasing though.
Just trying different setups, but you are on to something. You do get more accurate suppressor audio from the non ejection port side, and that's likely where we'll place the camera/mic when doing sound comparisons going forward.
Different hosts and differing amounts of gas being introduced to the operating system. Traditionally, overhassed guns will show a more forward ejection pattern while a more properly gassed gun will show more neutral 3-4 o'clock ejection. As long as the brass is coming out and it's locking back when empty, I don't pay too much attention.
Definitely looks over gassed. Ejecting at 2pm. I'd drop an adjustable gas block or tune it with a buffer spring combo. I'm aware you can run a suppressed rifle at 2 o'clock and be fine,but it's not ideal. What's people's problem with steel? If your shooting a ISPC plate we at least know your not shooting 100 moa. Also the ding of steel doesn't take away from how quiet a suppressor can be. 50K rds down range to verify it. 223/556 can be quiet,but it still makes a bit of noise, unlike 220gr 300BO, or 165gr 9mm through a 7.5"- 10.5" barrel. Yes the 165gr 9mm round doesn't have the ballistics like 300BO or 556,but a 9mm can blow a lung completely out of your body. It's what Uncle Joey said. Hunter is the smartest guy he knows. Nice demonstration though.
Got one buddy with one, and have only been around it for one night shoot. It was the flashiest (new word) and loudest of all other cans there. From a distance, it's low-light visible and audible signatures were similar to a Sandman K with an e-brake (loud flash-enhancers).
Look at the brass ejection patterns to see which setup is actually running well. Definitely shouldn’t be looking over your back right shoulder behind you seeing brass. Should be at your 2 or 3 oclock
Whitest or quietest? They're all black except for one. Quietness from a bystander perspective: OCM5 > Polonium > Sierra 5 > Socom556 RC > SOCOM556-Mini2
Surefire engineered them to leak gas bottom left of the back of the suppressor. Not sure why they want that gas bleed off like that but mine does it too.
THANK YOU for not shooting a steel target for the test! So many channels will shoot at a steel target in suppressor videos and it defeats the whole purpose
Listen how quiet my can is! BONG BONG BONG. Like and subscribe for more!
Big difference with the polonium. Also thanks for testing with the same camera angle and not hitting steel haha
I hate videos of guns shooting steel, you completely miss the test and the video, I close the video right away
What's the difference? I can't tell
No excessive talking, and no steel targets. Perfect video. Thanks!
Good editing. No BS, straight to the point, with back to back section. Thumbs up bro
So happy I just purchased a Polonium K. I know it wasn't in this, but its performance vs size vs value is close to unbeatable at this moment.
Great Video!
I'm curious to get a K outdoors, but I think you made a good choice!
No personal experience with either the polo or polo k (yet) but from what I have read and from pew science testing, the k is noticeably less gassy while compromising sound performance
@@Orange.Delicious Get the full for a 11.5" inch or shorter, K for longer barrels imo
@@connor7034 Longer barrel, shorter can is the answer.
By far the greatest comparison test of different cans on YT
No bullshit video and an included back to back section to save on scrubbing through the video, appreciated
man, this would have been the perfect comparison video if the hosts were the same. thanks for doing it regardless.
It's hard to get all the same hosts. Maybe we'll get a setup where we can swap muzzle devices at the range. We've got a 20+ 5.56 host suppressor comparison video in the works.
Yes, we're planning a night video. All hosts will be a close as possible, probably 10.3-12.5. We're planning to capture shots with both a standard camera and behind a PVS14.
No fillers, has chapters to click on, OUTSTANDING!
It can be difficult to get a good idea on each can if they're fired on multiple firearms with different barrel lengths/components, love the idea of the comparison though!
We try to get close but some mounts, such as the AE brakes, are only set to fit on certain platforms. We may hot-swap muzzle devices on the range one of these days in order to keep the host the same.
That was the best head-to-head comparison I've seen. Well done.
Subscribed just for this video alone. Thank you for doing this comparison.
great video, thank you. I have the SIerra 5 with the e brake on the end on a PWS mk111. absolutely no recoil.
I'm liking my Sierra 5 so far, no issues with it yet
Very nice, I like the crispness of SOCOM’s!
Awesome video. Straight to what everyone wants to see and hear. Not 15 minutes of bs and 15 minutes of chasing Ron Jeremy.
Great video. No filler. Straight to action.
I was impressed with the polo and seirra 5. Considering the size of the seirra 5 makes it all the more impressive. If it wasn't for DAs qa debacle, that can would be getting a lot of love.
Size to sound ratio, the Sierra 5 definitely takes the win. Polonium also sounds very good, but is a bit larger.
@@joesrcool I want a Sierra 5 so but but they seem to keep turning into stamped maracas
@@MemoryCovenew ones should be good to go. I have one with about 2k rounds through it, no issues. And it’s super comfortable to shoot even without ear pro at all lol.
Best video of suppressor comparisons hands down. Like someone else stated other channels shoot at steel which like come on, that’s dumb 😂
I came across this looking for a video on the OCL Polonium. And I have to say, for the price, it seems like a really great suppressor.
As much as I would love a Surefire, I cannot justify that price tag. My local shop has the OCL for $579, and I'm thinking that will do just fine.
Wait for a restock on silencer shop, they do free shipping and no FFL transfer fees! Will likely save you $150+
I absolutely love my Polonium, totally hearing safe with my personal testing when outdoors
This is such a good video. Thanks for making it!
Great video. Right to the point and no BS. 👍
The rifle with the OCM5 was the only one that wasn't super overgassed. I wouldn't have thought that the smaller cans would have added so much bolt velocity, but maybe the rifles were gassy beforehand (which is pretty common.)
You wouldn't believe how many people have commented about my guns throwing casings in the 3-5 o'clock range and said it was "inconsiderate." Though im guessing they're the same folks that shoot maybe 200 rounds per year and think that screwing a few pieces together & driving some pins qualifies as a "build." Eh, just need a little insight/education i suppose.
I appreciate the back-to-back comparison montage at the end though. I wish more folks would do that. But It's also virtually impossible to get a real sense of what each setup sounds like in a video (specifically with a camera/audio setup that levels the noise and compresses everything.) But there's not a lot you can do for that, unfortunately. I just enjoy this format. I think you may have gotten lucky that the wind was at your back so the gas was immediately blown away from your face. That shit sucks. There's nothing that can ruin a good time like your rifle making you feel like you're crying 😆😂
This video dead ass helped me pick mines very helpful a straight to the point thinking bout that ocl waiting a year might be worth it
Great job dude no bs just good content! Subscribed!
The ocl and the dead air are about the same, both are extremely effective. Socom seems like a piece made for redhot gun battles.
All the Surefires seemed louder.
Nice comparison. The Polo is such a great value. That mini mk12 with the ocm5 seemed l like the only rifle that wasn't horrifically over gassed. Was it tuned with an agb or brt ez tune?
It is not, just an H3 buffer. I was surprised on how well gassed that combo is. Criterion 12.5 with carbine length gas.
@@joesrcool Very nice! H3 is a lot of buffer! I would if it would be flatter shooting with a BRT EZ Tune and a lighter buffer. It's probably super reliable as is, though.
It runs so well the way it is, I'm planning on not messing with it. Now my LMT guns, they may be getting some BRT tubes. I put one in the 13.5in .308, and it's a whole new gun.
OCL cans were definitely the quietest.
This man quietly doing God's work
Pun intended
Sierra 5 for the win. Picked up one from primary for $580…..comes with the muzzle device….I’ve run around 1500 rounds through it on multiple uppers (mostly my dd 10.3 mk18) it’s solid. Don’t believe the bs. Make sure it’s on right and it’ll be fine.
Could not say which was quietest, but the Surefire was certainly the loudest.
Even if it is the loudest that socom min 2 is dope
It's going to be great when suppressors are no longer regulated. Suddenly there will be thousands of people building suppressors in their home . workshop. People will be able to buy a top of the line can for about 300 bucks. Current prices are criminal.
When?
@@2ndamendment728 Soon. A suppressor is not a firearm. ATF will eventually lose the "right" to regulate suppressors.
ok. I feel much better about purchasing my Polonium
The wind made it a bit hard to tell, The longer suppressor was louder and the mini was louder I think... they type of sound was hard to pin down thou from the wind. they make different types of sounds like deeper vs shallow....
I could barely tell a difference between each brand. I only heard a difference when it got smaller it was a bit louder. I'm sure some brands probably heat up easier though, I'm getting an aero small form factor .30cal suppressor I would like to see you test that.
Im assuming thats a Warcomp on the Mk18? You can see it jetting gas out of the mount under the can once you shoot a few rapidly. I had to swap mine for a brake but it brought the sound down *VERY* noticeably
I think the Dead Air Sierra 5 and OCM5 and Polonium all sounded really really good. The OCM5 was the quietest for sure. And it’s amazing seeing the Polonium hang with these other more expensive cans. I actually bought a Polonium.
For sure... convinced me to get a Polonium for myself.
Honestly they all sound pretty similar, at least on phone speakers, other than the mini. Can you comment on the dead air sierra vs the polonium?
The Polonium sounds ever so slightly quieter to our ears, but not by much. It is a larger suppressor. Both run circles around the Surefire options (in terms of perceived quietness).
I really like the OCL & the Sierra 5. I need to check price on them now. They were close in sound and gas going back to the shooter which was a lot better than the surefire's deal.
no bullshit video. earned my sub
Would be ideal if you had used the same rifle for all the cans as a control to rule out sound differences due to barrel length and gas system variabilties.
Yeah, I agree. I need to work on gathering spare mounts for each can and figuring something out for the more obscure stuff.
Thanks for this!
That MK18 build is beautiful. The best combat setup in modern times. Specifically in the field of combat.
Such a good video man
Man that sound of the both Socom sounds good 👍🏾
A really good video. But where's the decibel meter?
I've been shopping, but the good ones are $$$
@@joesrcool From what I understand, they're specialized equipment and very pricey. Most makers don't even list a dollar amount.
Yup. I've been browsing ebay. Then trying to find the right mics and calibration tools, let alone documentation on how to use it all.... It's been quite the endeavor.
The ocm 5 was nice
The Question: is ANY can hearing safe (1 mag dump) indoors, shooting 5.56 from 11.5" bbl?
I love the surefire suppressors
Dead Air Sierra seemed to come out on top. Wish there was little window showing the DB level of each, but it is what it is.
Polonium has the best tone to it.
Away from the suppressor, amazing 🤩 rifles
Great video man
What is the gun you fired with ocm5 ?
Question?
Was all the ammo the same as well as subsonic?
Has anyone out there ever done a decimal test with all the different ammo types/variations?
Suppose you have a barrel and a supressor that is pin and welded, does that make a difference in sound?
Has anyone done a sound test in relating to direct impingement vs gas piston driven?
Side question?
Does anyone know what the psi inside the barrel once the projectile is fired?
Is there a sound/psi relation?
This run used all the same ammo. We've run a suppressed night comparison with different ammo, but we were just looking at flash signature, not sound. Barrel length has been proven to change suppressed sound levels, Griffin does some good videos with different barrel lengths using the same can/ammo. I'm sure a DI/Piston comparison has been done. We have plenty of each at similar barrel lengths we could compare. Higher pressure rounds will likely make more sound. Some rifle cans are rated to support 4000ft/lbs of energy and higher.
Interesting?
Do you know why it wont cycle?
More details....
@@marct8898
I liked seeing the direction of the brass ejecting, which alludes to back pressure. A little disappointed to see how over-gassed Surefire cans make the gun. OTL for the best flow through win.
I wouldn't read too far into this, as each host was different. If we were to use the same rifle for all the cans, then you could make a better comparison. This is something we'll try to do in the future, we just need to select a host and acquire more mounts.
Mk18 gas port is most likely a lot larger than the Bcm one
Best recoil out of the group?
Is that an 11.5 bcm with the polonium?
Yes, it is an 11.5
What hand guard is that on the 4th rifle?
PRI Gen III Intermediate Length, with the PRI Recce Length top rail... barrel is 12.5in
* Silencer comparison*
Yeah I said it come at me bro.
between the polonium and ocl which sounds quieter? It seems almost the same in the video so I feel like the polonium is a much better choice in price and length and weight, the ocl is aesthetically pleasing though.
Purely subjective, the OCM5 sounded quieter to our ears
Great video bro. Subbed
How is the rc2 mini on the mk18?
Why the suppressor reviewers are shooting from ejection port side?
Just trying different setups, but you are on to something. You do get more accurate suppressor audio from the non ejection port side, and that's likely where we'll place the camera/mic when doing sound comparisons going forward.
Which order would you put these in? From quietest to loudest (we know which was loudest, lol)
In this video, Quietest>OCM5>Polonium>Sierra 5>SOCOM556>SOCOM556-Mini2>Loudest
Well done
What size barrel?
they're all loud. i think we should be comparing how much flash they make at night after a couple magazines.
Damn those Surefire's are loud.
DAS 5 is king !
....as long as it doesn't blow. Regardless, I think it sounds better than anything else its size.
Why is it that some of the brass gets ejected at the 1 o clock and on another rifle at the 5 o clock?
Different hosts and differing amounts of gas being introduced to the operating system. Traditionally, overhassed guns will show a more forward ejection pattern while a more properly gassed gun will show more neutral 3-4 o'clock ejection. As long as the brass is coming out and it's locking back when empty, I don't pay too much attention.
@@joesrcool thank you
The ocm5 test. What rail is on that rifle?
PRI Gen III Intermediate length handguard with Recce length top rail
Can anyone tell me what brand/model of stock that is at 1:24?
Doublestar ACE M4 SOCOM stock
@@joesrcool Thank you very much, Sir!
Definitely looks over gassed. Ejecting at 2pm. I'd drop an adjustable gas block or tune it with a buffer spring combo. I'm aware you can run a suppressed rifle at 2 o'clock and be fine,but it's not ideal. What's people's problem with steel? If your shooting a ISPC plate we at least know your not shooting 100 moa. Also the ding of steel doesn't take away from how quiet a suppressor can be. 50K rds down range to verify it. 223/556 can be quiet,but it still makes a bit of noise, unlike 220gr 300BO, or 165gr 9mm through a 7.5"- 10.5" barrel. Yes the 165gr 9mm round doesn't have the ballistics like 300BO or 556,but a 9mm can blow a lung completely out of your body. It's what Uncle Joey said. Hunter is the smartest guy he knows. Nice demonstration though.
i was thinking the rc2 mini for my 14.5 ddm4v7
No HUXWRX?
😬
Got one buddy with one, and have only been around it for one night shoot. It was the flashiest (new word) and loudest of all other cans there. From a distance, it's low-light visible and audible signatures were similar to a Sandman K with an e-brake (loud flash-enhancers).
What ammo are you guys using?
This was all Hornady training 55gr 5.56
polo sierra ocm sound exactly the same based on the video mic but unfortunately we cant have suppressors here in california bc this state sucks
Is that 10 or 12 inch barrel?
Barrel lengths in order... 10.3, 11.5, 10.5, 12.5, and 10.3 again
OCL polonium is the quietist can I’ve ever owned or shot
Try the AEM5, it spanks the Polonium.
OCL takes the prize
need to record from like 50m away
What barrel length for the first gun?
10.3in
@@joesrcool thank you sir.
Dead air makes a nice can
0:30 is that a DD Ar?
No, it's a mix of random parts. Pretty sure it's an 11.5 with a BCM handguard and ADM lower.
@@joesrcool Thanks! That helped. It looks dope
Look at the brass ejection patterns to see which setup is actually running well.
Definitely shouldn’t be looking over your back right shoulder behind you seeing brass. Should be at your 2 or 3 oclock
2,3,and 4 were the quietest. 2 being the most suppressive.
Yankee hill?
Aero precision?
Unfortunately, neither myself nor my friends have any YHM or Aero cans. The new Turbo 3 looks interesting.
Stock name on the rifle with OCL OCM5? thanks a lot!
ACE Socom stock
Looks like the OCM5 has a lot less back pressure
It's a pretty gassy can, but that upper just happens to be tuned really well (unintentionally).
Why can't all comparison videos for all products be just like this one?!
What’s the whitest from best to worse?
Whitest or quietest? They're all black except for one. Quietness from a bystander perspective: OCM5 > Polonium > Sierra 5 > Socom556 RC > SOCOM556-Mini2
Its 556, what do you expect. Can't sub that round.
Noticeable amount of gas leaking behind the Surefire muzzle devices. Everything else sounds the same
I noticed that too when editing. Muzzle device on that one was a SF 4-prong.
Surefire engineered them to leak gas bottom left of the back of the suppressor. Not sure why they want that gas bleed off like that but mine does it too.
OCL OCM5 seemed quietest
Surfire Socom all day baybay
SOCOM is a solid can. Skip the Warcomp if you're running suppressed most of the time.
@@joesrcool Pew Science Agrees
This video is the fuckin standard of comparison videos…
No love for the oil filter.