The Quietest Rifle Only Costs $350

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  • @backfire
    @backfire  2 года назад +144

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    • @Edwinthe7th
      @Edwinthe7th 2 года назад +1

      I love the channel but Huusk knives are 100% trash. They are made out of crap metal and don't have a good heat treatment on them. They are a fly by night china company that does not stand behind their product either. The channel cedric and ada did a great review of them. ruclips.net/video/jJd5-Kxg-f8/видео.html

    • @patricktakada9551
      @patricktakada9551 2 года назад +56

      Those knives suck lol

    • @scarter176
      @scarter176 2 года назад +26

      Yeah
      I thought ole Backfire would steer us away from scams………..? What about that Backfire ?

    • @ArkansaDave1
      @ArkansaDave1 2 года назад +5

      They don’t ship to Alaska….

    • @s.wesley8390
      @s.wesley8390 2 года назад

      I have been curious with this Huusk knife. It was great seeing a video endorsement from you. I will get through your link! Thanks.

  • @McRod-1
    @McRod-1 2 года назад +3891

    Silencers should be standard issue/mandatory for every firearm. There is absolutely no reason to have them classified as a controlled ATF item. Not only do they protect your hearing, but they also prevent you from annoying your neighbors.

    • @tmv23b3
      @tmv23b3 2 года назад +538

      Available without restriction, yes. Mandatory, absolutely not. Signed, a guy who owns several of them.

    • @Cydiahacksandtips
      @Cydiahacksandtips 2 года назад +378

      Once you add the word “mandatory” for any of this is when I draw the line 🤣

    • @tmv23b3
      @tmv23b3 2 года назад +140

      @@mojowaxwork4242 you mean like the criminals that already do whatever they want to whoever they want with whatever weapons they want as it is? Stop being afraid of inanimate objects.

    • @charlesgair8608
      @charlesgair8608 2 года назад +8

      @@mojowaxwork4242 Or The Gun Nuts .

    • @charlesgair8608
      @charlesgair8608 2 года назад +8

      This Guy Is Getting Off Shooting A Gun.

  • @DarthPlaya
    @DarthPlaya 2 года назад +590

    This is the best suppressed weapon sound level demonstration video I have ever seen. Thumbs Up Given!

    • @craighansen7594
      @craighansen7594 2 года назад +8

      Bolt action and lever action is just as quiet. Suppressor regulations are unconstitutional!

    • @enmiredbythelazy4401
      @enmiredbythelazy4401 2 года назад +3

      @@craighansen7594 On the plus side, Texas is slapping the AFT (Joe Biden's spelling) around on that very issue right now. The Armed Scholar seems to be keeping up with the battle.

    • @rwm3111
      @rwm3111 Год назад +6

      I would like to see a comparison of this rifle and a bolt action 308 with sub sonic rounds. Both with no suppressor and both with the same brand and model suppressor.

    • @musician445
      @musician445 6 месяцев назад

      Decibel meters are designed to measure steady state noise, like in an industrial environment with machines, fans, etc. Impulse noise, like gunshots, hammers, nail guns etc, are not accurately measured using devices like that because the sample rate is not fast enough to pick up more than one peak in the sound wave at a time. So throughout the course of the sound wave, the meter could be picking up any random spot within the span of the wave, whether or not that is actually the highest peak is up to chance. Check out PEW Science for measurable and understandable effects of suppressed weapons at the human ear. The suppression rating is actually more useful in comparing and understanding suppression across a host of weapon systems and makes it more easy to put loudness into perspective than only measuring decibels.

  • @cato7669
    @cato7669 2 года назад +602

    In Australia we can't have suppressors unless you're a contract shooter or a primary producer, and even then, they make it really hard to get! The reason we can't have them is because our government think it's like in the movies where the hit man shoots people and no one hears it🤦‍♂️ I really wish the term silencer wasn't used, I just want to be able to protect my hearing and increase my chances when hunting!

    • @nathangoode1089
      @nathangoode1089 2 года назад +23

      Same reasoning for canada.

    • @Iseestupidpeople122
      @Iseestupidpeople122 2 года назад +19

      Virtually impossible to get in California also.

    • @danstamper1475
      @danstamper1475 2 года назад

      Australia has really attacked your freedom along with Canada. Our government is working on taking ours away also well. Sincerely America government is turning on its people. I agree with your statement. Hey guy breaking into my house please allow me to put ear protection on first. That way I can't hear you

    • @terriecotham1567
      @terriecotham1567 2 года назад +19

      I don't think a contract killed care's
      Kind of like muggers

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross 2 года назад +56

      the irony is that in large urban US cities, ran by pro-crime Democrat party politicians, the response time by police to a reported situation is now measured in hours.
      So the fact that the criminal gangs are using stolen, unsuppressed firearms has no bearing on helping to identify/locate the perpetrator - they are long since gone from the crime scene
      Nobody once to work on the police force of these locales anymore so they suffer severe manpower shortages - the Covid jab policies they forced on officers only served to amplify the manpower shortages per all emergency responders
      the consequence is that small businesses are shuttering and large businesses are relocating to places under Republican party control.
      People are fleeing California in droves.
      McDonalds CEO publically complains that he can't hire people to come and work at corporate headquarters in Chicago. New York policemen are taking jobs in places like Florida, Ohio, Tennessee, etc.
      These Democrat-ran cities are rapidly becoming typical Communist-like, third world sh*tholes, while the political leaders are totally focused on taking gun rights away from the law abiding citizens

  • @hux2000
    @hux2000 Год назад +131

    Very cool video. The highlight was the comparison of supersonic and subsonic ammo in the same rifle. I had no idea that breaking the sound barrier makes that big of a difference to the sound level!

    • @ShaneOryan
      @ShaneOryan Год назад +8

      Makes a huge difference. Its the main reason 300 blackout was created. Point was to get a lot of energy in a suppressible round that could easily be retrofitted onto ar15 style rifles. Another great round to suppress is 45acp because its naturally subsonic. IMO it's not worth it to mess with high velocity rounds in a subsonic variant like 556 or 308. Another newer round that uses high mass low velocity to it's advantage for suppressors is 8.6 blackout.

    • @bertbccfu9564
      @bertbccfu9564 Год назад +6

      Even in air rifles , I run a suppressor on my .25 cal pcp air rifle and when I'm shooting slugs I try to keep it just below sound barrier to keep it quiet, I do this by going with a heavier slug , but if I throw a much lighter slug in and break the sound barrier they can get as loud as a 22 long rifle

    • @kitemanmusic
      @kitemanmusic 9 месяцев назад +1

      I remember going to a range in the UK firing Lee Enfield .303 ammo. Sitting in the butts, underneath the Target, and hearing the supersonic cracks!

    • @danielpassmore5026
      @danielpassmore5026 8 месяцев назад +3

      Yea. You are creating a mini sonic boom when you break the sound barrier. It’s the whole reason sub ammo exists

    • @Tony-q6s
      @Tony-q6s 3 месяца назад

      The crack you hear in the butts is actually the bullet hitting the target. ​@@kitemanmusic

  • @paultreviska9417
    @paultreviska9417 10 месяцев назад +6

    you're bang on about the left ear deafness, I did 9 years in the army using the FN 7.62 and Ive mid range damage but my right ear is ok

  • @TheBeaker59
    @TheBeaker59 2 года назад +63

    Hunting is so much more pleasurable with a suppressed rifle, no blast, less recoil, quieter etc my Zastava 243 is laser accurate and easy to shoot and deadly.

  • @alemajo
    @alemajo 2 года назад +68

    CVA Scout is basically a Bergara. Comes from the very same factory in the Basque country. In Europe the CVA Scout is sold branded as Bergara TD 13 (TD = take down)

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 2 года назад +7

      Interesting, that's great news, thanks!

    • @averagekiwibloke3436
      @averagekiwibloke3436 2 года назад +2

      I thought it looked familiar

    • @rickhibdon11
      @rickhibdon11 2 года назад +6

      My CVA Scout has become my "go to" rifle. Taken numerous deer and other critters. The workmanship is top notch, but it sure isn't fancy.. but very accurate! Mine's in 44 mag and I'm looking for another in 350 Legend. I'd LOVE to have one in 6.5 x 55

    • @Able-Man
      @Able-Man 2 года назад +3

      Thanks for "adding THAT"

    • @casualadventuresgermany8709
      @casualadventuresgermany8709 2 года назад

      Yes, I got a Bergara BA 13TD in .300 Blk with a 46 cm barrel and a large suppressor, added a cerakote finish and a camo thumbhole stock, use a 1-6x42 scope for hunting in dense wood. Use 110 gr GMX for deer/boars and change to 200gr subsonic for fox/badger/hare....solid, but heavy rife, short and very quite

  • @willb5240
    @willb5240 2 года назад +90

    Interesting.. When I lost all of the hearing in my left ear the audiologist never told me that the left ear was more common. When you only have one working ear, you get really serious about hearing protection in the one that still works. Suppressors/silencers should not have the restrictions that they do, they save people's hearing. And I'm sorry but I have to mention it.. You said this is like a "don't shoot your eye out" pellet gun, and you're not wearing any eye protection. It took me years to get used to no hearing on one side, I'm sure it takes longer to get used to being blind on one side or possibly both, just sayin. Great video!

    • @crchrdsn
      @crchrdsn Год назад +9

      I can relate. I had severe high-frequency hearing loss by the time I was in my early 20s. Mostly from hunting/hiking occasionally with high-powered rifles without hearing protection. I now mostly shoot a suppressed 22 or 17 HMR. I wish I had a suppressor years ago. I get so angry when people talk about trying to ban them, especially after all the hoops we had to jump through to get them.

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 9 месяцев назад +1

      My hearing loss is in my right ear, probably because of the insanely loud dirt bike I had when I was a kid, with an expansion chamber on the right side. That subsonic round in this suppressed rifle is pretty amazing.

    • @gregarnsberger5663
      @gregarnsberger5663 9 месяцев назад +1

      My left ear was the closest to the breach of a 3" 50 dual gun mount on my ship,,,the VA gives me my hearing aids...also M-14, 1911 .45, M-60 light machine gun,,,etc...

    • @dhuze66
      @dhuze66 9 месяцев назад +1

      Most of my hearing loss in in my right ear. Like you I take every precaution to preserve what's left of my hearing.

    • @AndyDillbeck
      @AndyDillbeck 8 месяцев назад +3

      You probably already know this, but "don't shoot your eye out" is a movie reference for A Christmas Story (1983), where the main character wants a pellet gun for Christmas, and every time he tells someone what he wants (his family, mall santa, etc) they all dismiss it with "no, you'll shoot your eye out".
      Eye protection is still probably a good idea.

  • @yarbrouc1
    @yarbrouc1 2 года назад +11

    It was also originally patented as a “silencer”. First sold in 1902 and patented in 1909 by Hiram Percy Maxim.

  • @thereplyguyreviews
    @thereplyguyreviews Год назад +32

    I didn't realize how badly I needed something in my life like this before, this is great!

    • @wadehampton1737
      @wadehampton1737 2 месяца назад

      So.....add in the suppressor and it's really a 1200-1500 dollar rifle, right?

  • @CaptainXanax
    @CaptainXanax 2 года назад +148

    Buddy of mine has an AR pistol in 300 blackout, with a big name brand suppressor. I was surprised that with supersonic ammo it was still uncomfortably loud. With subsonic ammo I think I could hear the gun cycling more than the round firing.

    • @keithstroud2908
      @keithstroud2908 2 года назад +15

      Semi autos will be louder than a single shot or a bolt action because of the action cycling and the gasses that vent when it cycles. Single shot and bolts most of the gasses go out the barrel.

    • @bemusedmusician807
      @bemusedmusician807 2 года назад +23

      Supersonic ammo will always have the crack from breaking the sound barrier

    • @larrywhalen596
      @larrywhalen596 2 года назад +7

      @@bemusedmusician807 This is always a tuff concept to realize since ANY projectile travelling at supersonic speed, (exceeding the speed of sound), will always register as a loud 'report' or sound and until a projectile's speed can be reduced to less than 1,100 fps
      it will always do so.
      By the way silencers neither touch nor slow a projectile, (bullet) in any way since the opening in the baffles has to be large enough for the bullet to pass through safely and also so as not to interfere with accuracy.
      If you care, see my comments on Maxim's U.S. Patent for the "silencer" with was originally granted for use in the automobile at the time.

    • @larrywhalen596
      @larrywhalen596 2 года назад +3

      @@keithstroud2908 Same with revolvers due to the space between the face of the cylinder and the barrels breech.
      True it will reduce the report some, just not as much as the movies present.

    • @sed6
      @sed6 2 года назад

      Short barrels are louder.

  • @mikehobbs7421
    @mikehobbs7421 2 года назад +33

    Cva is an excellent firearms manufacturer! Here in southern Ontario Canada most of where I white tail hunt is limited to shotgun and or muzzleloader. I use my Cva accura v2 with great success and it is one of my sweetest shooting firearms, I bought a Cva wolf for a little lighter tighter package with open sites and it’s just as good as the accura but 1/3 the cost! The scout is next o my list with zero hesitation once I can find it up here! Love the channel! Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦👊

  • @randallkelley3600
    @randallkelley3600 2 года назад +110

    I love my 300 blackout CVA. I don’t own a suppressor, but I deer hunt with it. I have a Vortex red dot which I put at the front of the rail. That allows me to carry the gun one-handed at the balance point. It is a superb rifle for short range, thick woods deer stalking. The Barnes 110 grain TTSX ammo is phenomenal in this little rifle.

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 2 года назад +5

      So it's a rimless 30-30? Sounds fun.

    • @YouKnowTheyExist
      @YouKnowTheyExist 2 года назад +6

      This demonstration has me a bit confused about the bullet speed, with the target about 100 feet away? The trigger sound is clear and the target sound is clear, but maybe this is creating an illusion of a slow bullet. Does a sub-sonic bullet punch through the shoulders of a deer? The demo makes me doubt the speed of the bullet, and probably the actual math for speed of sound would prove the bullet capable.

    • @mccglastron1972
      @mccglastron1972 2 года назад +3

      @Randall Kelley - Be interested to know how much a 200ish gr sub sonic bullet like that, or whatever you hunt with, drops at like 100yds? Any idea? Or is this only good for even shorter range?

    • @pewpewTN
      @pewpewTN 2 года назад +6

      @@YouKnowTheyExist It should be ~1000 FPS at the muzzle.
      Most of the .300 BLK subs have really good ballistics, so it carries it's velocity pretty well.
      Yea, you can drop a deer with it at reasonable range.

    • @WillyK51
      @WillyK51 2 года назад

      @@YouKnowTheyExist Speed of sound is about 1.100 FPS, any target 22 LR or Short travel at under 1.100. You can perfecly shoot at 75 Yds and over with subsonic cartridges, A 22 cal Silencer can be much smaller because it retains less gasses than a big cal cartridge. If you can shoot game with a standard Vel 22 at 75 yds, you def can shoot Big game with a bigger cal, and bullet drop isn't that much at 100 yds. Muzzle loaders( Todays Newer are much faster) use large slow moving bullets out to 100 yds. If they are fine for Deer, else is just as good

  • @ferrumiumcanis5211
    @ferrumiumcanis5211 Год назад +16

    I respect your integrity, for still keep that promo part. Huusk has been busted many many times in knife community, and lots sponsored content creators have taken down their promo video.

    • @mtman2
      @mtman2 9 месяцев назад +2

      What's Huusk's problem-?

  • @jimr5703
    @jimr5703 5 месяцев назад +8

    An AR platform chambered for 300 Blackout shooting sub-sonic with a 7.5" to 10.5" barrel and a can. That's an ideal home defence rifle. Powerful deterrent that will not render you and your loved ones deaf afterwards.

    • @engin3ar
      @engin3ar 3 месяца назад +2

      Fair point but if you're fighting for your life hearing damage isn't really a priority

    • @feellnfroggy
      @feellnfroggy 2 месяца назад

      Even subsonic the 300 would go through the wall and your kid.

    • @jedfehrenbach9470
      @jedfehrenbach9470 2 месяца назад +1

      @@feellnfroggy Yep. If I lived alone, than might be an option. But with a family I'd go 16.5in semi-auto or pump with buckshot. Add a flashlight with a remote trigger.

  • @siestatime4638
    @siestatime4638 2 года назад +22

    The original patent (Hiram P. Maxim) was for a "silencer", not a "suppressor"; "suppressor" might be more descriptive, but "silencer" is more correct. Personally, I use both, occasionally in the same sentence.

    • @imafreakinhistorian2169
      @imafreakinhistorian2169 2 года назад

      Of course , We all Do

    • @josephsherman4913
      @josephsherman4913 2 года назад

      I say muffler
      Seems more relatable, nobody likes a car without a muffler

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 2 года назад +3

      Something can’t be „more correct“. Maxim may have invented the device but he does not have authority over its terminology. Both terms are apt.

    • @Ironpine27
      @Ironpine27 2 года назад

      @@josephsherman4913 "Nobody likes a car without a muffler"
      Oh boy, how wrong a single sentence can be...

    • @michiganmoto7687
      @michiganmoto7687 2 года назад

      @@borkwoof696 it’s even debatable if he was the first to invent a suppression device, just the first to file a patent.

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 2 года назад +8

    Pressure transducer inserted down into a gallon jug of water through the closed lid with the wire headed to it all wiggly-piggly can be used as a very very good comparator of shockwave energy, just aim the jug's flat side at the firing position. Cellphone microphones have input limiting features that cannot be turned off.

  • @sub_second_life3174
    @sub_second_life3174 2 года назад +39

    I love my suppressor from Dead Air. I paid $1,000 for it and my 6.5 creedmoor is so pleasant to shoot without ears on. It honestly sounds like a .22

    • @ifs_fishing
      @ifs_fishing 2 года назад +2

      What model need one for my bergara

    • @tracyhightower3004
      @tracyhightower3004 2 года назад +3

      You forgot to add the best part about Dead Air. They are multiple caliber by just changing the endcap and are quick attachable/detachable with provided muzzle break. No I do not work for Dead Air.

    • @googies12a
      @googies12a 2 года назад +3

      That's expensive for a moderator (silencer/suppressor) - a .223/.308 proofed moderator here in Ireland & UK is around £300/€350 inc. taxes etc. Plus, we only have to register it on the firearms cert, not serialised or anything. They are encouraged actually.

    • @adloutdoors
      @adloutdoors Год назад

      I have a DEAD AIR TI on my SIG CROSS .308 and it's as loud as my .22 WMR, same with the can on a RUGER PREDATOR 6.5 Creed.

  • @donho670
    @donho670 Год назад +38

    The first patented suppressor was the "Maxim Silencer" built by H.P. Maxim, son of machine-gun inventor H.S. Maxim. So if it's a Maxim, it's definitely a "Silencer". But, like Kleenex and Aspirin, the name is in universal use. Son had to follow dad's footsteps, his full name was Hiram Percy Maxim.

    • @benlockhart1798
      @benlockhart1798 Год назад

      I came here to say this thank you for saving me some time!

    • @rudolfabelin383
      @rudolfabelin383 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the history lesson. I read his wiki, senior. Wow!

    • @Plasmastorm73_n5evv
      @Plasmastorm73_n5evv 11 месяцев назад

      Actually Aspirin was the name given by Baer to the FORMULA not actually a brand name and most people say tissue not Kleenex.

    • @dancopp5607
      @dancopp5607 10 месяцев назад +1

      and Mr. Maxim was also the inventor of the automobile muffler. I own several firearm mufflers mostly because in the 1980's and 1990's I managed Midas Muffler shops and it's the same hot stuff!

    • @user-zb6ke7gy7e
      @user-zb6ke7gy7e 9 месяцев назад

      what about curad and ban-aid or flavorade and kool-aid or grape juice and grape drink or ice cream and ice milk

  • @gibsonfan3
    @gibsonfan3 Год назад +25

    I love your excitement and great knowledge. I can’t believe how quiet that .300blk is out of a break action!

  • @alexkitakis3917
    @alexkitakis3917 2 года назад +205

    It should be called a suppressor for branding reasons. Silencers are scary john wick silent killers. Suppressors should be legal to own because they’re a safety tool to prevent hearing damage

    • @Dcm193
      @Dcm193 2 года назад +4

      I mean the name of it is a silencer. I believe using cozy words give more ammunition for the anti 2a people. They see how much we are willing to change .

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 2 года назад +12

      "Sound Mitigation Device"😜

    • @jerk4628
      @jerk4628 2 года назад +2

      Silessor

    • @19austin83
      @19austin83 2 года назад +13

      Mainly still called a silencer during to the original patent from Hiram Maxim. Either it being called a suppressor or silencer, any anti 2A person, politician, or organization will hate and demonize it because it is apart of the firearms world.

    • @Dcm193
      @Dcm193 2 года назад +2

      @@19austin83 thoughts on binary triggers,bump stocks,frt’s etc?

  • @pipedreams57
    @pipedreams57 2 года назад +56

    I bought a brand new H & R like this one in 30-30 caliber for $49.95 in 1975 and for $20 more you got the 20 gauge shotgun barrel to go with it. The rifle barrel was drilled and tapped for scope mounts.

    • @entropyhanus
      @entropyhanus 2 года назад +3

      That was my first thought. Why's it so expensive but far cheaper than i expected the parts would cost.

    • @Able-Man
      @Able-Man 2 года назад +5

      I "lost" an H&R Topper-Buck, 12GA, in 1979 (it "grew legs"); ¡¡MAN, I STILL "miss that" particular tool!! (I was a United States Merchant Mariner at the time, ... It DID fit nicely into a standard "duffle bag"!!) {NOT "Ready to GO"... As I recall, you even needed a screwdriver, to "make it ready to fire"!}

    • @slowery43
      @slowery43 2 года назад

      Wow thsi is so not remotely interesting yet has nothing to do with this video at all.. thanks for your valuable input there piper

    • @boomdawg56
      @boomdawg56 2 года назад +1

      Years ago I bought a Rossi single shot kit gun, .410, .22lr and .243 barrels for I think, it was $199. The single shots are fun to shoot.

    • @_Common_Logic_
      @_Common_Logic_ 2 года назад +4

      @@slowery43 - 30.30 vs .300... Cheap price points of the past, vs. the "cheapest" now, and an interesting convertible option in the same (30.30) caliber...
      It seems the O.P was interesting to some, and also RELEVANT to this video, which ironically enough, yours was not. I'm sure you were raised to believe that your opinion matters, Hoagers, but in the end, it won't change facts.

  • @frankretzlaff5476
    @frankretzlaff5476 2 года назад +12

    I have shot a lot of 300 blackout in my AR with a suppressor. It is really quiet with the subsonic, but when shooting hogs it just punches holes and doesn’t knock them down. I have switched to the 6.5 Grendel for hogs. It’s not nearly as quiet , but great knock down power. Also 300 blackout subsonic is really a short range round it drops like a rock after 80 yards

    • @robertf6523
      @robertf6523 2 года назад +2

      everything drops at about the same rate vertically.. decreasing an object's forward velocity below the speed of sound creates that 'increased drop'.
      It's basic physics man.. not rocket science. ;)

    • @davidsignor7931
      @davidsignor7931 2 года назад +1

      I prefer rounds to be 3000 fps or faster at 500 yrds the animal never heard the shot

    • @johnroberts3824
      @johnroberts3824 Год назад +5

      @@robertf6523 Everything does NOT drop at the same rate. Try dropping a marble and a feather. Not everyone lives in a vacuum. I think you left out some of the physics. ;)

    • @robertf6523
      @robertf6523 Год назад +1

      @@johnroberts3824 should you happen to get interested enough in physics to actually look into things: you'll find that if that marble and feather are dropped in a vaccum, they'll drop at the same rate.
      But considering I specifically mentioned dropping an object's velocity below the speed of sound.. wouldn't the reasonable person be able to deduce I'm talking about explosion driven bits of lead or copper? :P

    • @johnroberts3824
      @johnroberts3824 Год назад

      @@robertf6523 Sorry, just messin' with ya :)

  • @BrianMeeks
    @BrianMeeks 8 месяцев назад +7

    The BEST part of this video...
    ...is your laughter.
    Pure joy makes my day.

  • @haralddrost7661
    @haralddrost7661 8 месяцев назад

    I like how you kept it simple for everyone to understand and hopefully accept the concept of using suppressors in everyday use. Got the B/O bullets mixed up, but hey, stuff's gonna happen.

  • @louiscapasso4452
    @louiscapasso4452 2 года назад +51

    I've ran a 300 blackout full auto suppressed with subsonic ammo. Even then it was super quite. Great video and thanks for the link for the knives.

    • @MarkMason77
      @MarkMason77 2 года назад

      Kool: 1 question, how do you go Full A with a single shot rifle?

    • @chriswelch9070
      @chriswelch9070 2 года назад +6

      @@MarkMason77 300 blackout is ammunition....not a gun...lol

    • @louiscapasso4452
      @louiscapasso4452 2 года назад +3

      @@MarkMason77 mine is a scary black rifle with a 16 inch barrel. That is how it can.

    • @JwallzMTB
      @JwallzMTB Год назад

      @@louiscapasso4452 if im looking for 1 gun to do it all, you rec 300blkout? im torn between a few stuff

  • @mikehh8020
    @mikehh8020 2 года назад +34

    300 blackout is cool but it's for gas guns originally chambered in 5.56. For a strictly subsonic rifle, I'd go with a much larger bore like .45 - .50, a very short barrel, and a very long silencer. Instead of 180-220 grain bullets at 1050fps, you can have 500-700 grain bullets at 1050fps

    • @Physics072
      @Physics072 2 года назад +2

      That wold give the largest FPE. Launch a cannon ball at 1050 fps and get more FPE.
      Or can just get a .22 pellet gun and use it for varmints 60 yards and closer.

    • @chrisdodson2917
      @chrisdodson2917 2 года назад +3

      I have to disagree. I've killed many deer with my 300 Blackout Handi Rifle with suppressor. It's a single shot and it doesn't spook deer. They just stare and look bewildered! Lol

    • @bch5513
      @bch5513 2 года назад

      @@chrisdodson2917 where ? Not in south east most likely. You can shoot a bow around here and clear a field no problem.

    • @ronmatson5502
      @ronmatson5502 2 года назад +4

      8.6 blackout and razorback is the newest fad in my opinion.

    • @rudyschwab7709
      @rudyschwab7709 2 года назад +5

      @@chrisdodson2917 He is just indicating a heavier bullet traveling at just below the speed of sound delivers more kinetic energy than a lighter bullet traveling at the same speed with no increase in noise. To get more energy on target quietly, the mass of the projectile must be increased. There is a limit on how much velocity can be applied before a sonic crack is generated from breaking the sound barrier. There is no limit for the mass.

  • @donh1572
    @donh1572 2 года назад +54

    You should have shown the other big benefit. You can take down the CVA and it fits in a standard backpack!

    • @backfire
      @backfire  2 года назад +17

      I would have shown that… if I had known that 😀 That’s cool!

  • @ElderlyIron
    @ElderlyIron 2 года назад +15

    The 300 Blackout actually sounds like a cork gun! That was a toy in the 1960's that I haven't seen since the 60's! The cork was on a string. You cocked the gun, popped the cork out of the barrel and stuck it back in again!

    • @martinnorbeck4657
      @martinnorbeck4657 Год назад +1

      pump action assault cork gun.😄

    • @kielpease
      @kielpease Год назад

      They sell those to kids at Cabela's/Bass Pro. My son loves his!

  • @montycraig5659
    @montycraig5659 12 дней назад

    I just found your Chanel on YT algorithm. 10 seconds after watching I thought "Hot Dang! This is the guy from Improve Photography" !! I lost track of you a long while ago, but I did support your channel, and bought different Luts and stuff from you back then! Glad I found your channel, and just wanted to say thanks for all of the great stuff you posted previously. I'm sure this will be just as good.

  • @benjaminbenedict7779
    @benjaminbenedict7779 2 года назад +13

    My 300 blackout AR suppressed with subsonic is pretty quiet the brass ejecting and hitting the tailgate of the truck is actually louder than the round when it fires

  • @CiviTac
    @CiviTac 2 года назад +21

    I use my 6.5creed suppressed and it’s fine for hunting without ear pro if you fire only 1 time. Silencers are awesome

  • @muskyman1018
    @muskyman1018 2 года назад +6

    I have 4 300 blk. The CVA is one of them, with my YHM can and sub 200gr Makers it’s crazy quiet. Several years into the suppressed 300 game and I still giggle with every shot. When you shoot a deer you can hear the round contact the meat.

  • @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
    @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 Год назад +23

    I wouldn't use a break action single shot rifle for defense but still really cool how quiet that thing gets.

    • @forcryingoutloud23
      @forcryingoutloud23 9 месяцев назад +1

      Amazing hunting rifle for sure.

    • @solomonknew1117
      @solomonknew1117 4 месяца назад

      You would at distance with high ground, unless your nervous about one shot lifestyle?!

    • @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
      @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 4 месяца назад

      @@solomonknew1117 Yes but if im at a distance with high ground. Either A they know where I am and therefore the suppressor isnt necessary, or B they dont know where I am and im shooting at people who are unaware which will be VERY hard to argue self defense.
      Now if we're talking national defense sure. But for regular self defense a suppressed break action would not be anywhere near my first choice for a self defense gun.
      still cool though.

  • @jimnunya1253
    @jimnunya1253 Год назад +3

    Nice to hear just springs and action!
    I did a large diesel oil filter on my Marlin .22 semi-auto rifle and used subsonic ammo, I've never heard a gun so quiet.
    In fact it was very similar to the last in this video but I tested in my living room!
    I can assure you my .22 was more silent.
    All you heard was a spring loaded firing pin smacking, then the bolt opening and closing on the partially expelled round and a knock sound from the round hitting a 2x4, there were no other associated sounds!
    FYI, the sub ammo did about as much damage to a 2x4 as my 1250fps .177cal pellet rifle but with zero 'gun fire' sound.
    I typically silence my airguns too!
    -
    My go to fast & effective air rifle silencer is hella simple;
    Place a roll of TP over the barrel. (Squeeze it first to get a better fit if needed)
    Pull off about 4ft of TP and shove it into the TP roll opening. (Place portion of tape over to keep TP shreds in as needed. Personally I enjoy the shreds blasting out!)
    Done.
    I used this method for years while eradicating finches unsuccessfully!
    Once I loaded 3 BB's in my Crossman and pumped it 13x, the finch I hit just disappeared, ceased to exist, nothing left but a few feathers floating and a red spat mark behind it!
    I hunted from the front of the house 2nd storey in a typical neighborhood in silicon valley! 10x to 30x a day!
    (Finch tree was a very large Yucca plant 15-20ft from the window.)
    Cool thing about the Yucca is that small things dying in it stay in it!
    Very very very few birds landed for the kitty.
    (Poor kitty had to brave the sharp edges to get a kill.)
    -
    A more permanent solution was a narrow bottle (like IceWater or whatever sparkling fruity water it is!?!?!)
    1. Trim a long narrow notch into the threaded area side of the bottle and fill bottle with as much light tissue as possible without packing it too too tight.
    2. Use pipe clamp to attach to muzzle (make sure clamp & bottle are not affecting target sighting, rotate and angle as needed.
    3. Take a full powered shot once you confirm there is adequate venting. (Perhaps from the thread notch you cut. If not, poke a BB or half BB sized hole in it somewhere.)
    4. When you shoot it you'll find the exit location. Use method of choice to open a small hole around the exit hole.
    This exit hole changes so make your hole about dime to quarter size.
    5. Cover exit area with a good piece of heavy tape or a couple layers of light tape.
    This will reduce the amount of TP poof puff that blows out and will keep the big hole closed with exception of the little one in use and maintain the pressure/sound.
    -
    I don't think most people need to fully silence an airgun unless shooting indoors with mom home!
    The fast TP roll method is fast install and fast uninstall, limits sound greatly outdoors and the loose TP doesn't affect shot performance almost at all.
    Eventually after a few rounds the BB's bore out (blow out!) their path through the TP and shot to shot performance is maintained.
    I can't say anything else will be as effective and cheap or as easy!

    • @kenfong6373
      @kenfong6373 9 месяцев назад +1

      But with a goofy filter on the end you can't use sights of any kind!!

    • @DonutVIP
      @DonutVIP 3 месяца назад

      I was thinking the same thing also, cci quiet sounds like a co2 and air going off follow by a impact, marlin model 60 19 inch barrel, and no it doesn't cycle the gun, it goes bolt action

    • @christopherscott6435
      @christopherscott6435 Месяц назад

      @@DonutVIP CCI quiets are my go to for squirrels, and they cycle in my rem speedmaster that also cycles with shorts.

  • @briansouth9325
    @briansouth9325 2 года назад +18

    When the cva scout 8.6 blackout is released........ I'm getting one asap!

    • @HebrewHammerArmsCo
      @HebrewHammerArmsCo 2 года назад

      And for the last 30 years you could have had a TC Contender etc in 338 Whisper..... or a 300 Whisper, or 375 Whisper or even a 500 whisper..

    • @briansouth9325
      @briansouth9325 2 года назад

      @@HebrewHammerArmsCo except TC isn't making anything right now, but I do have one in 338 federal

  • @therevoman
    @therevoman 2 года назад +10

    So jealous you found a CVA Scout. I’ve been looking for one of those all summer

    • @SuperUncleRyan
      @SuperUncleRyan 2 года назад +4

      They are crazy hard to find in 300 Blackout, so I went with the Thompson. I think they are even gone now. Real shame because they are great guns.

  • @tyler558806
    @tyler558806 2 года назад +11

    2:20 LOL! I love seeing channels like yours grow. I've been really enjoying your review and tips videos.

  • @jamesfairmind2247
    @jamesfairmind2247 10 месяцев назад +3

    Americans are always surprised to learn that in the UK moderators are the norm on everything. No extra paperwork or costs, it is the norm to include a moderator on everything from a .22 to a 338 or a 50 BMG when you apply for a certain calibre on your licence. In fact if you forget to request one the Police licensing dept will call you and offer to put it on for you. In the UK you can even buy a fully integral suppressed Mossburg pump straight off the shelf and because it is a shotgun you don't even have to request a moderator on your licence (BTW we have used integrally suppressed shotguns since we air dropped them to the French resistance in WW2, we all sh*t ourselves laughing when the TV programme "Sons of Guns" thought they invented the first silent pump as we looked at our 75 year old examples on the rack!). Anyway, crazy how different countries have different gun laws.

    • @12vibaba
      @12vibaba 3 месяца назад +1

      well if I own a suppressor here in the Netherlands, I would probably go to jail for a few months and never own a rifle again.

    • @jamesfairmind2247
      @jamesfairmind2247 3 месяца назад +1

      @@12vibaba Why do governments fear suppressors? You guys ought to bring a class action on the basis of hearing damage. I thought suppressors were mandatory throughout the EU because of hearing damage? It is illegal to shoot on Forestry Commission, or Crown owned land here without one.

  • @timhallas4275
    @timhallas4275 Год назад +1

    One of the oldest "secrets" to quiet gun operation id using heavier bullets. The heavier bullet is slower,yet retains much of the energy of the powder charge. A subsonic 400 grain 45/70 is quieter than a standard 250 grain 45 colt. out of the same barrel length, while delivering more downrange energy.

  • @benjamincooper8531
    @benjamincooper8531 2 года назад +6

    I have the scout in .350 legend. Great gun for the money! I still need to pick up a silencer for it and make it even sweeter.

  • @nataliedeyton6829
    @nataliedeyton6829 2 года назад +7

    I have 3 of the cva scouts 6.5 creed,.444 marlin ,300 blk and they are great accurate guns. I got mine before the rona hit and they were 250 bucks on gun broker

    • @bluepunk182
      @bluepunk182 2 года назад

      Ditto. Got one in 350 Legend in 2019 for about $340 shipped/FFL transfer fees.

    • @randallkelley3600
      @randallkelley3600 2 года назад +2

      I have a 350 Legend and a 300 Blackout. Both are great rifles.

  • @kelevra558
    @kelevra558 2 года назад +10

    Dude thats insane. Thank you for doing this review buddy most guys are too cool to review a single shot rifle. Theyre stupid. Ur cool. Keep it up.

  • @DM-wp9vq
    @DM-wp9vq 2 года назад +39

    Wow!!! I wanna see some tests done. Like a penetration test, a muzzle energy test, and a hydro-shock test. To see how useful it actually is. Great video though! Thanks for sharing a cool weapon.

    • @thastinger345
      @thastinger345 2 года назад +12

      The subsonic round he is shooting is loaded with the Hornady 208gr ELD-M bullet, search that on here and you'll probably find some gel tests. they don't expand at subsonic speeds though.
      Lehigh defense makes some 194gr and 197gr bullets that DO expand or fracture at subsonic speeds though. The 194gr is call "ME" or Max Expansion and the 197gr is called a controlled fracturing bullet, look those up.

  • @ronniemenees1083
    @ronniemenees1083 2 месяца назад

    I have the same CVA scout only with an AAC SDN-6 suppressor . Mine is just as quiet with loading up the inexpensive 125gr. Speer tnt’s over 5gr of Trailboss. From time to time , guys will have get togethers to go shooting. I usually bring the CVA and everyone is always mind blown over how quiet it is .

  • @ericrichardson3332
    @ericrichardson3332 2 года назад +6

    The first shot was 82 decibels not 93.1 when it hit the steel it jumps to 93.1 but the sound from the rifle firing is 82.0 decibels , I could be wrong but I played it in slow motion and that's what it appears to be and the steel hitting noise was louder even though it is farther away

  • @goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644
    @goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644 2 года назад +4

    I have a similar setup with a Ruger bolt action and a Sig can using Maker all copper bullets for suburban deer control and it's a quite deadly combination to 100yds.

  • @taylorengler7764
    @taylorengler7764 2 года назад +7

    love how you say it will take down a deer with energy ~478 ftlbs. i totally agree but all your other videos its 1000ftlbs for deer 1500 for elk ....9mm only had 300-400ftlbs i think thats plenty its more about accuracy/ shot placement problem is most people can't accurately shoot some of the lighter stuff

    • @bpolly69
      @bpolly69 2 года назад

      Shot placement don’t mean much if a bullet doesn’t have enough force to penetrate more than 2 inches

    • @taylorengler7764
      @taylorengler7764 2 года назад +2

      @@bpolly69 well i don't hunt with a red ryder but just about anything with powder can penetrate 2 inches but smaller calibers like 22s have terrible bcs and sds and group terrible find a caliber that groups well and has a high sd thats more important once you get passed daisy penetration power

    • @royjohnson465
      @royjohnson465 2 года назад +1

      ~Yes with a soft nose hunting bullet it is a minimum of 1000 ft/lbs "energy" for deer and 1500 for moose & elk at any given distance, but does the .300 Blackout have enough "energy" at 50 or 100 yards to kill these 3 big game animals.?? (Also the .300 Blackout regular cartridges have more "energy" than the subsonic cartridges.)

  • @rbs0648
    @rbs0648 2 месяца назад

    A standard SKS 7.62x39, handloaded with hardcast lead bullets, with just enough powder to fire the bullet is hands down the quietest non-nfa rifle. After each shot the bolt must be manually pulled to the rear to eject the spent case and load the next cartridge. Excess gas bleeds off internally, but not enough to move the bolt. Its is scary quiet.

  • @curtisblanco4029
    @curtisblanco4029 Год назад

    I like the way you go back and forth, back and forth between the pellet gun and your silenced rifle.

  • @CamppattonFamilyCompound
    @CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад +49

    A doctor/researcher friend said the left ear deafness was caused by driving with the window down. Also said that over 50% of those he studied never shot a weapon at all.

    • @michaellambert5223
      @michaellambert5223 2 года назад +2

      Most Harley riders go deaf in the right ear cause the pipes are on that side…

    • @cantgo2fast
      @cantgo2fast Год назад +1

      @@chickenwing111 deaf and alive is still technically alive lol

    • @chickenwing111
      @chickenwing111 Год назад +7

      @@cantgo2fast we should all drive around blowing our horns non stop, I suppose.

    • @onewolf3750
      @onewolf3750 10 месяцев назад

      Seems more reasonable explanation for left ear deafness generally, and I can certainly verify the shooting explanation as well.

    • @scupper79
      @scupper79 8 месяцев назад +1

      I first heard the left ear deafness was from driving with the window down, as well. I'm a left handed shooter, have almost always tried to protect my hearing, so far a little tinnitus is my gripe. Motorcycles, lots of horsepower toys, jet engines, guns, etc... just be smart and wrap it up. wait. wut?

  • @johnlinebarger9745
    @johnlinebarger9745 2 года назад +4

    Literally the action makes more sound that the round does. I love subsonic rounds and cans.

  • @majorshong4951
    @majorshong4951 2 года назад +29

    I’m sure you r getting quite a few people saying this but I would love to see you try out a 8.6 blackout. Love the channel man!

    • @jestenaguirre9108
      @jestenaguirre9108 2 года назад +1

      Exactly what I was thinking.. especially since he does already own a 6.8. It would just take a barrel swap.

    • @markalex3866
      @markalex3866 2 года назад +1

      And a 338 spectre…..

    • @crossbowhunter9118
      @crossbowhunter9118 2 года назад +3

      But the bad thing is 8.6 ammo won’t be in production until mid 2023 my buddy just built one he was a lucky person and was able to get 1 of the 200 dies for the 8.6 to make the ammo. He just built the gun as well

    • @blackie1of4
      @blackie1of4 2 года назад +1

      The 8.6 blackout would be quieter! The difference between the diameter of the bore helps out with similar cartridges.

  • @Bchilds888
    @Bchilds888 10 месяцев назад

    Suppressors are actually used to keep muzzle flash from giving away enemy position and has a added bonus to reduce noise.

  • @NO_Expectations
    @NO_Expectations 9 месяцев назад

    You was having a lot of fun with that, being in the UK we can own firearms but I spent a long time travelling and they took my license off me. Now I only get to watch you guys shooting these fun firearms.

  • @gregkerr725
    @gregkerr725 2 года назад +11

    Heard one quieter than that once. Guy had a Ruger 9644 lever action in 44mag with an integral suppressed barrel....looked like a short real fat bull barrel. Load it up with 44 special...which is subsonic...and the only thing you could hear....and only if you had elephant ears, was the tick of the firing pin hitting the primer.

  • @bluepunk182
    @bluepunk182 2 года назад +8

    I have one in 350 Legend. It's a great, and accurate gun.

    • @tophat2002
      @tophat2002 2 года назад

      Why is the difference?

  • @thomasgibson8025
    @thomasgibson8025 2 года назад +6

    This was one of the best and informative videos I have seen!! Great job. I am buying one ASAP.

  • @kenf4837
    @kenf4837 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have an Encore with a Bergara barrel and a Harvester silencer and its just about as loud with a subsonic as it is with a standard velocity round! These are both Hornady factory loads! I dont think they put any baffles in the silencer!!

  • @user-nh4tm6hh4j
    @user-nh4tm6hh4j 9 месяцев назад

    I have done quite a bit of testing in this area. The one thing he didn't touch on is that the foot pounds of energy delivered at the target is dramatically reduced with subsonic ammo. What my team quickly figured out is you want to use the heaviest bullet you can get in what ever caliber you want to make quiet. Then load the charge to put is just below sonic speed and as he states. Use a single shot rifle. We have managed to shoot almost any caliber what we call "Hollywood quiet" Just like in the movies

  • @RumblestripDotNet
    @RumblestripDotNet 2 года назад +4

    c_air = 331.3 × √(1 + T/273.15),
    where T is the air temperature in °C. This formula returns speed in m/s.

  • @jtraptor7776
    @jtraptor7776 2 года назад +39

    I honestly think that 300 Blackout with a suppressor is the future, assuming prices for ammo come down and suppressors become easier to obtain

    • @royjohnson465
      @royjohnson465 2 года назад +1

      You forgot 'also' a "subsonic" cartridge. Hornady makes a subsonic line of cartridges.

    • @justinwilliams9452
      @justinwilliams9452 2 года назад +5

      Shit in one hand and wish in the other bro.

    • @mrs.vasquezz
      @mrs.vasquezz 2 года назад +2

      Ill take subsonic 308 over 300blk

    • @royjohnson465
      @royjohnson465 2 года назад +1

      @@mrs.vasquezz Hornady does makes 300 blackout but does "not" make 308 subsonic. Does someone make subsonic 308 cartridges and/or handloads.?

    • @mrs.vasquezz
      @mrs.vasquezz 2 года назад +1

      @@royjohnson465 yes

  • @lonhoschar1943
    @lonhoschar1943 Год назад +7

    Hard to believe that it could be THAT quiet!!

    • @JamesJones-jf1hr
      @JamesJones-jf1hr Год назад

      Turn you speaker off, you can't hear it at all. WOW!!!!

  • @juanrider817
    @juanrider817 26 дней назад

    Great video and demonstration, and you really do sound like you know what you are taking about.

  • @davidsteward9580
    @davidsteward9580 Год назад

    There is a buddy of mine who made a 6.5 Grendel with a 20in barrel with a Suppressor ranging about 71db with Subs, extremely quiet

  • @Doug-gp2qw
    @Doug-gp2qw 2 года назад +7

    It would be interesting to shoot the subsonic ammo into gel, to get an idea of stopping power. Also bullet drop at 100, 200 and 300 yards.

    • @SuperUncleRyan
      @SuperUncleRyan 2 года назад +1

      It takes a very specially designed bullet to even expand. Even then I would say it's only about twice as effective as a broadhead arrow from a nice compound bow. I have a set-up nearly identical to what he has here and I probably would not try to shoot a deer further than maybe 75 yards.
      Now the supersonic bullets are very effective. They are similar to a 7.62 x 39.
      As far as home security, if you are using a 300 Blackout, please use supersonics.

    • @ExpatriotSilencers
      @ExpatriotSilencers 2 года назад +2

      Drop is HUGE. Like MASSIVE.

  • @SuperUncleRyan
    @SuperUncleRyan 2 года назад +12

    I have a Thompson Encore Pro Hunter set up the very same way. It is a lot of fun to play with but I would stick with the .308 for hunting and a 12 gauge for home protection.
    Now if you need to take out a raccoon that's after the chickens in the middle of the night, that's where this gun will shine. Get the job done and won't even wake the kids.

  • @garynicholls1448
    @garynicholls1448 10 месяцев назад

    The loudest sound produced by a spring powered air rifle is the spring hitting the stop at the end of the chamber after trigger release. It is a very mechanical noise and very loud with some airguns. That is the sound in the video: spring impact not gas pushing a projectile. But, that said, it's a good demonstration and I do like CVA Scout.

  • @ffemt703
    @ffemt703 Год назад +1

    Although I am not a 300blk fan, I run the same thing with my .350legend. Its AR so you do hear the slide racking but the guy next to me thought I was shooting a compressed airgun.

  • @Ruger41mag
    @Ruger41mag 2 года назад +6

    Hey.... you know the 45 ACP shoots a 230 grain bullet at subsonic speeds .... super powerful just like the 208 grain subsonic 300Blackout ....

    • @mrs.vasquezz
      @mrs.vasquezz 2 года назад +2

      300 blk is silly

    • @ExpatriotSilencers
      @ExpatriotSilencers 2 года назад +2

      45 ACP has the ballistics of a brick. 300 BLK has much longer range than 45 and is way easier to make quiet.

    • @rovinruss4770
      @rovinruss4770 2 года назад

      So your hunting with 45ACP? Or just home defense?

    • @12jazion
      @12jazion 2 года назад +1

      @@rovinruss4770 Subsonic .300 Blackout is not legal or ethical to use for hunting anything larger than a racoon. It delivers the same energy as a .45ACP around 500 ft lbs so the general rule is, if you would not use your .45 to hunt, then don't use subsonic .300 Blackout. They make 120 grain supersonic loads that are great for hunting but the subsonics deliver less than half of the energy as a .223 and the .223 is generally the legal minimum for deer.

  • @seanmurphy243
    @seanmurphy243 2 года назад +11

    I'm gonna probably be the bad guy here. I'm unsure that a subsonic 300 Blackout is the correct choice for a deer beyond 75-100 yards. Had two bad experiences with it this year, my neighbor shot a doe that ran 1000+ yards onto my property, i found her still alive and alert, required a final shot from me with a 308. Next one was a 200 ish lb boar hog, neighbors son shot it with an identical subsonic load, again made it on to my property where I found it and took a finishing shot with my 260. I run all my hunting rifles suppressed and run supersonics through all of them. I see much quicker taking of game with supersonic vs subsonic.

    • @backfire
      @backfire  2 года назад +6

      I agree

    • @edgreywolf
      @edgreywolf 2 года назад

      It is equal to a 30-30..... at 100+ yards it is better than 30-30

    • @seanmurphy243
      @seanmurphy243 2 года назад +1

      @@edgreywolf Maybe with supersonic ammo. Certainly not with subsonic. My 30-30 load data is something like a 150 RN at 2200 FPS? If I'm remembering correctly.

    • @CaponeCraps
      @CaponeCraps 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. It wasn't developed for deer hunting. Designed for short barrel, close quarters (Probably indoor) combat. But it is a great round for lots of different applications

    • @SuperUncleRyan
      @SuperUncleRyan 2 года назад

      @@edgreywolf Only with the lighter supersonic loads like the 120 grain tac tx bullets.

  • @phill1777
    @phill1777 2 года назад +7

    On a side note, I own the same Crosman pellet gun. Bought it for my 11-year-old. It's heavy for a pellet gun, it's loud for a pellet gun, there is no way, no how, my son can break it open. It also gets the most use of any gun in the house, we live on the outer edges of my town, with lots of wildlife, but still in town and the local PD isn't fond of us shooting in town. However, the trusty Crosman has dispatched more than one varmint. Unfortunately, suppressors are illegal in the People's Democratic Republic I live in, so my uses for .300 blackout are limited.

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 2 года назад +3

      I have the same pellet rifle, yup not really for youth because it's so difficult to charge.

    • @markinjhawkland724
      @markinjhawkland724 2 года назад +1

      I'm a big airgun fan with over 50 in my collection. Try a Beeman R7 for your youngster. Very high quality and easy to cock.

  • @leeroyjenkins1529
    @leeroyjenkins1529 Год назад

    For clarification the decibel scale is logarithmic. Basically an increase of 10 from 80 to 90 decibels is a significantly bigger difference then an increase of 10 from 70 to 80 decibels.

  • @randwillard3719
    @randwillard3719 Год назад +3

    Nice video.
    You might have added a dry fire to compare the sound with and without the added cartridge noise.
    And maybe with and without the suppressor.

  • @dwaynecurfman555
    @dwaynecurfman555 2 года назад +4

    Great Educational Video Yet!!!! This should be shown as a Hearing protection too, for suppressors to have no control!

  • @crlkrlf4718
    @crlkrlf4718 2 года назад +13

    Awsome, would love to hear your thoughts on the 8,6 blackout.

  • @lordTowle
    @lordTowle 2 года назад +12

    You need more barrel twist with sub-sonic rounds. It will make them more accurate and take away the bullet sound a bit more.
    I only have one AR that I can shoot sub-sonic rounds out of accurately, the others don't have enough twist.
    This is really something to think about when you purchase a rifle.

    • @azpapa9347
      @azpapa9347 2 года назад +4

      My buddy just got an 8.6 blackout and I'm amazed at how effective the 1 and 3 twist is. I've read articles about it being just a wimpy .338, but I'm not sure they shot the same rifle as I did.
      I can't wait for the ammo price to stabilize

    • @pewpewTN
      @pewpewTN 2 года назад

      Just load more standard weight projectiles to subsonic speeds & they will be totally fine in your slower twist barrels.

  • @gwc656g
    @gwc656g 11 месяцев назад +1

    It is a silencer as named by the late great Sir Hiram Maxim. I too fell for the heresy of calling it a suppressor for many years until I learned this.

  • @romanbogdan8872
    @romanbogdan8872 Год назад

    So i ordered a couple of these knifes with the leather sheath and i gifted them to my cousins when in Europe this last December. They are being put to good use butchering a lot of wild and domestic game in the Carpathian Mountains 🏔️ of northern Romania 🇷🇴.

  • @100forks
    @100forks 10 месяцев назад +24

    So, what you are telling me is that the cost of the rifle, the cost of the suppressor plus the cost of federal license to
    have the suppressor, is under $350.

    • @Bosco-gets-it-right
      @Bosco-gets-it-right 3 месяца назад +2

      not likely, mate nfa fee is $200 alone...

    • @ljprep6250
      @ljprep6250 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Bosco-gets-it-right And the suppressors START at $600, going up to $1150.

  • @boromirofmiddleearth557
    @boromirofmiddleearth557 2 года назад +4

    great video! fascinating single shot rifle you presented! thank you!

  • @1notgilty
    @1notgilty Год назад +5

    This can't be true. I've seen lots of movies where the hero shot dozens of people with a "silenced" semi-auto pistol without changing the mag and it only made a nearly silent "poof".

  • @martyn6792
    @martyn6792 Год назад

    Really interesting video, in the UK we call them silencers or sound moderators and are interchangeable. When you picked up the 300 toward end of the video, I thought he hasn't cocked it - twice

  • @markmcleod6376
    @markmcleod6376 Год назад

    I have lost a lot of hearing in my left ear. I have never known why until your video. Thanks to you and your dad!

  • @dennisholle1005
    @dennisholle1005 Год назад +5

    Interesting topic!! It is super unfortunate that suppressors require a tax stamp. Suppressors definitely change the shooting experience.

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 2 года назад +8

    Thisbis actually a really sweet setup that I am probably going to get myself honestly

    • @stuckgrenadepin.225
      @stuckgrenadepin.225 2 года назад +1

      I have the 10.5” pistol version. Combined with a good can and a good subsonic load all you really hear is the hammer dropping.

  • @bns8594
    @bns8594 2 года назад +23

    I wanted to hear the difference compared to without the suppressor.

    • @NoOneButRonPaul
      @NoOneButRonPaul 2 года назад +1

      I was asking myself that too.

    • @robdeskrd
      @robdeskrd Год назад

      The first shot of all the guns was an unsuppressed supersonic .308 compare that to the suppressed subsonic .300BO at the end, is that not close enough for you?
      Or the simple fact that his conversational voice had a significantly higher decibel rating then the firing did, the pellet gun was also louder.... that's a 200+ gr bullet significantly quieter than a staple gun

  • @tonysmith5465
    @tonysmith5465 Год назад

    Don’t brag too much. Very very outstanding video. Super performance. Great job. Keep up the good work. Thanks a lot friend. SC Navy vet 🇺🇸. 1965.

  • @mbnz0174
    @mbnz0174 5 месяцев назад

    A Bergara BA13/Scout CVA in 300BLK is my go to rifle for thick bush hunting. 16" barrel, very short rifle overall, a little heavy for it's size though. Unfortunately, I've found Hornady Sub-X rounds unsuitable for hunting. Since other options are limited here and I don't reload, I've reverted to using supersonic rounds which definitely do the job (Hornady FTX). Anyone with a Firearms Licence can buy a suppressor in New Zealand. I imagine most people have them on their hunting rifles. It's a health and safety issue as far as I'm concerned.

  • @hghunter44
    @hghunter44 2 года назад +9

    If you reload subsonic 300 blackout, recommend you try VV N320 powder. It works great in all my subsonic loads for 44 mag and 6.8 SPC.

    • @royjohnson465
      @royjohnson465 2 года назад +1

      Also Hornady makes a line of subsonic cartridges.

    • @hghunter44
      @hghunter44 2 года назад +1

      @@royjohnson465 They are a bit pricey for volume shooting. I can reload 44 mag subsonic using 240 grain XTPs for 50 cents a round at today's inflated primer and powder costs.

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou 2 года назад +1

      @@hghunter44 would you not be better off doing 300 grain to get subsonic speeds and still retain energy?

    • @hghunter44
      @hghunter44 2 года назад +2

      @@WayStedYou The 240s are more accurate. For deer, subs don’t kill due to energy, they kill through blood loss like a broadhead from a bow. Bullet placement is even more important.

    • @royjohnson465
      @royjohnson465 2 года назад

      @@hghunter44 I see, thank you. Yes subsonics lack energy to kill deer.

  • @paulbingville6485
    @paulbingville6485 2 года назад +9

    Rifle only costs $350, but if you want it that quiet you have to factor in the cost of a suppressor and $200 tax stamp unless you already own one.

    • @andrewh1600
      @andrewh1600 2 года назад

      Or live in Texas

    • @smg1831
      @smg1831 2 года назад

      @@andrewh1600 Unfortunately, Texans are not exempt from federal law. It's still a felony in EVERY state to possess an unregistered silencer.

    • @andrewh1600
      @andrewh1600 2 года назад +1

      @@smg1831 have you read the outcome of the the Bruen case? Are you an federal attorney? Additionally it was never the possession that was in question its always been the proof of the tax collection for the sale of the item.
      But what do I know I'm just a pleb.

    • @rogermalouf7685
      @rogermalouf7685 Год назад +1

      So you have to buy the rifle, the stamp, and the suppressor? That’s a lot of money for a single shot….and ❤suppressor…maybe $1000?

    • @haralddrost7661
      @haralddrost7661 8 месяцев назад

      @@rogermalouf7685 you can buy the stamp and apply to manufacture your own suppressor. homebuilt will last a long time with subsonic pressure levels.

  • @TeachaMantoFish
    @TeachaMantoFish 2 года назад +7

    I tried to take a hog with a suppressed 300 Blackout subsonic, thinking it would do the trick on a boiler room heart lung shot. Nope, a little blood and the hog ran of. I was warned the subsonic isn't good for hunting. They were right, don't do subsonic for hunting. It is not appropriate or ethical, I learned and was in denial too. I learned... use supersonic suppressed 300BLK for hunting medium sized game.

    • @MrLandslide84
      @MrLandslide84 2 года назад

      I had a 300 SUB lead splatter me. It definitely does not have enough haul ass. 10.25" AR

    • @gungadinn
      @gungadinn 2 года назад

      I was fortunate years ago to get certified as a sharp shooter that allowed me to hunt in a protected reservoir.
      The deer had eaten much of the low hanging vegetation causing erosion when it rained.
      I hunted with a 300 Blackout, night vision scope and a silencer. Just to keep the police that patrolled the area informed, a call to the precinct letting them know I was there.
      My shots were 50-60 yards and all head shots. No fuss, no muss.

    • @ShootingUtah
      @ShootingUtah 2 года назад +1

      The problem with a lot of 300blk ammunition is that they are putting big heavy bullets in the subsonic rounds that are actually made for much larger .30 caliber rifles like 30-06 and .308 for example. So when you shoot them out of a 300blk they aren't designed to expand at such low velocities. A couple companies now make bullets specifically designed for 300blk subsonic and I assume they actually will expand at that velocity and probably would have done a better job on your hunt. But I'm not sure exactly what ammunition you used.

    • @TeachaMantoFish
      @TeachaMantoFish 2 года назад

      @@gungadinn yeah, that’s not a normal hunting circumstance. For regular hunting I guess is what I’m talking about.

    • @TeachaMantoFish
      @TeachaMantoFish 2 года назад

      @@ShootingUtah I reload, so I was using a Hornady round head. Trying to take advantage of the soft tip.

  • @ssramage
    @ssramage Год назад

    Just ran across this video. I bought a CVA .300BO about a year ago and just got my Rugged Razor suppressor approved this week. Nice to know what to expect!

  • @korakys
    @korakys 10 месяцев назад

    That rifle looks so cool! Very minimalist in mechanics and styling and of course super quiet when using subsonics.

  • @mistergrendel32
    @mistergrendel32 2 года назад +4

    It would have been nice to hear the .300 Blackout without the suppressor for comparison.

    • @BirdDogey1
      @BirdDogey1 Год назад

      Big price difference between the CVA with and without.

  • @hazsneax
    @hazsneax 2 года назад +6

    I feel like the fact that it's easier to break the sound barrier in the cold than it is in the heat is a doorway into higher knowledge that we have yet to tap into.

    • @CaptainXanax
      @CaptainXanax 2 года назад

      You mean like we could learn faster in the cold?

    • @CaptainXanax
      @CaptainXanax 2 года назад

      @Richard Mcintyre lol, I figured it was something along those lines, i just like to say something ridiculous every once in a while.

    • @tamstutz921
      @tamstutz921 2 года назад +1

      Aerospace engineering and aviation tapped into that decades ago.

    • @hazsneax
      @hazsneax 2 года назад +2

      @@tamstutz921
      I mean in areas that are still untapped, obviously they have used this knowledge to further the technologies we are seeing - that goes without saying.
      The brain is majority water, for example. Atmospheric impact could have a causation in several aspects of neural development, embryonic development, etc...
      It could serve the purpose of discovering anti-gravity propulsions, there's really no telling.
      I do so wish that university wasn't capitalized on as much, as the commoner is often able to shed new light where geniuses overthink. The beauty of how everything is intertwined in this plane of existence is truly mesmerizing.

    • @mackhomie6
      @mackhomie6 2 года назад

      @@hazsneax you'd enjoy Deepak Chopra, and similar nonsense merchants

  • @bpgsontz1072
    @bpgsontz1072 2 года назад +5

    You should try it with the Ruger American Ranch in .300 blackout, you still eliminate the sound of the action because it's a bolt gun, but then you get extra rounds in the magazine!

    • @marcmoore4115
      @marcmoore4115 2 года назад +1

      One of the fun people ay?... everyone and their dog has that!
      But honestly, a bolt action can still be quite loud. Especially a newer one. Mine clunks around a lot while running the bolt - even when going slow, the sound of the round popping out of the magazine is still seriously loud in comparison to the muted click of a break action shutting.

    • @seanomeirs8362
      @seanomeirs8362 2 года назад

      I've been thinking about the Ruger in 300 blackout for a while. How do you like it?

    • @seanomeirs8362
      @seanomeirs8362 2 года назад

      @@marcmoore4115 My dog doesn't have one. But I'm getting one for my horse.

    • @donh1572
      @donh1572 2 года назад +2

      Yes but the CVA can breakdown and be put in a standard backpack…the Ruger American cannot

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 2 года назад +1

      @@seanomeirs8362 😂

  • @makisp.1428
    @makisp.1428 Год назад

    What your dad told you about the left side hearing being lost being most common, was VERY interesting!!

  • @JeffNolan
    @JeffNolan 3 месяца назад

    I have a CVA Cascade in .223 with a suppressor. When using subsonic ammo, the sound is barely a pop. I also have a Honey Badger in 300 blackout with a Trash Panda and even when using subsonic ammo it has a loud crack. Barrel length has a lot to do with it.