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  • @MrMetallica43
    @MrMetallica43 Год назад +2655

    Garand:"8.6 through 3 blocks, please stop."
    The 8.6 round :"How bout nooo" 😂

    • @Nurse_Xochitl
      @Nurse_Xochitl Год назад +87

      8.6mm Blackout is like a honey badger that don't care, on steroids.
      I love it! I bet it would probably work decently on 2A infringers.

    • @SPIRIT-117
      @SPIRIT-117 Год назад +59

      "please stop"
      8.6BLK
      *bugs bunny no meme*

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Год назад +2

      Bullets talk?

    • @hbomatt
      @hbomatt Год назад +32

      This is actually a bad thing. No expansion means 5.56 will do more damage to a human

    • @nfaisnfgay
      @nfaisnfgay Год назад +1

      @@Nurse_Xochitllolberts wanting to arm the enemy. What a doormat ideology

  • @adamsolomon9353
    @adamsolomon9353 Год назад +1329

    I would listen to you talk about (in anger) for 5 hours about the VA. Please hold them accountable, you have the platform

    • @Saanonymous80
      @Saanonymous80 Год назад +50

      At least it's not the Canadian VA

    • @PariahSixx
      @PariahSixx Год назад

      The shit that the Canadian VA is pulling with coercing vets into euthanasia who are mentally incapable of properly agreeing to something of such a magnitude is absolutely sickening. @@Saanonymous80

    • @danielleroberts8964
      @danielleroberts8964 Год назад +61

      They just offer you assistance to die. What an unbelievable disgrace.

    • @snafu4405
      @snafu4405 Год назад +44

      The VA murdered my father. 2 tours in Vietnam, 27 years LEO. Not to mention the emotional toll on my family.

    • @ScottWaa
      @ScottWaa Год назад

      ​@@snafu4405the VA (and our leadership) treats our vets terrible. They used Agent Org in Vietnam knowing that it was toxic, yet 50 years later the US government still is fighting against vets for proper treatment. My dad is one of them.

  • @ViaticalVash
    @ViaticalVash Год назад +2697

    Everytime Mike asks Micha to describe an item and Micah just says what he thinks about it. You can see Mike die a little everytime.

    • @jakewebster5084
      @jakewebster5084 Год назад +87

      lmao! The look of fatherly disappointment on that man's face...

    • @792slayer
      @792slayer Год назад +43

      Yeah, but he got SDI right this time.

    • @debbiestimac5175
      @debbiestimac5175 Год назад +24

      @@792slayer But he was dead wrong on the cowboy hat, it is so flattering on Mike, very manly and very chic... I bet his wife agrees heartily!

    • @jake1021
      @jake1021 Год назад +36

      ​@@792slayeryour confusing Micah with Charlie

    • @chrysun9891
      @chrysun9891 Год назад +2

      hey nice pfp

  • @nicholasdowd5793
    @nicholasdowd5793 Год назад +1429

    After seeing the RIDICULOUS penetration from that crazy fast twist, I really want to see this put through a battery of tests for barrier penetration. I'm talking sheet metal, windshields, solid wood door, plywood, exterior walls, even concrete block. Hell, toss in level 3a and level 3 body armor to the mix too. That would really drive home and give a great understanding of the real world penetration capabilities of this fascinating newer round.

    • @chrisviviano3271
      @chrisviviano3271 Год назад +66

      I absolutely agree with this, I would love to see that test. I mean in all honesty, when in an urban scenario, you will be penetrating wood, concrete, cinderblock filled and empty, car doors, windows, windshields, armored glass, plate carriers, and drywall. I think this is a brilliant urban sniper, especially if it has massive penetration power! I’m sure once you break certain substances the round will be slowed and slightly pancaked making it a more damaging round after barrier break.

    • @nicholasdowd5793
      @nicholasdowd5793 Год назад +12

      @chrisviviano3271 For sure. I think the applications in an urban setting for this round would be near limitless. I'm dying to see it tested lol.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Год назад +41

      Add to that how it penetrates ballistic helmets, thick metal, and vehicles. I suspect this cartridge will be proven in combat on the streets of Amerika during the coming civil war.

    • @uthopia27
      @uthopia27 Год назад +17

      ​@@taraswertelecki3786my god man whts the matter with u 😅😅😅

    • @RollerCam
      @RollerCam Год назад +4

      It won't be a factor. The time til' full breakdown is just too short. It's not even in the hands of 1% of all US shooters.

  • @adamgambescia9650
    @adamgambescia9650 Год назад +1212

    That is ridiculous. I’ve never seen a round have this much penetrative power in ballistics gel . It cuts through like genuine butter. Amazing.

  • @k.compton8995
    @k.compton8995 Год назад +758

    The VA has screwed so many over. Thanks for shining more light on the situation.

    • @wbrennan2253
      @wbrennan2253 Год назад +18

      I did a 10 week pharmacy rotation at a VA while in college. Interesting place. And listening to some of the struggles now with trying to get care.😢

    • @AaronWilbers
      @AaronWilbers Год назад +8

      My Father was DAV from Viet Nam and the state of the local VA hospital was awful. The first time I went in there I was stunned.

    • @Servoxyl
      @Servoxyl Год назад +12

      I’m gonna sound stupid, but what does VA mean in this context?

    • @wbrennan2253
      @wbrennan2253 Год назад +12

      Sadly, it is run as well as most government programs.

    • @Servoxyl
      @Servoxyl Год назад +7

      @@spaceman624Thanks!

  • @captraddish891
    @captraddish891 Год назад +126

    my last job was upgrading the VAs network switches, and it really opened my eyes to how horrible the system is for Veterans. I, as a 21 year old loser was making more off the VA as a contractor than employees that had been there for decades. All that in addition to the "facilities" that were at least 20 years behind on average. absolutely despicable how little they actually care.

    • @jh5131
      @jh5131 Год назад +15

      If you think about it, it's actually the perfect real world application of fully government run healthcare

    • @Keepone974
      @Keepone974 Год назад +7

      @@jh5131What do you mean by fully run? Because living in a country with a socialized healthcare, it's not like that at all (Japan), although private hospitals do exist (and you can use the national health insurance system with them anyway).

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor Год назад +11

      @@Keepone974 That is your government, and your culture. Japan still believes in things like dedication to one's work and integrity. Perhaps to a fault in some cases.
      The USA is nothing like Japan, and nothing like the USA anymore unfortunately.
      Also, politicians and people make it seem like we lack socialized healthcare in the US. We don't.
      My father applied for state health insurance for the first time when he had a cancer diagnosis, and it changed my opinion on socialized medicine.
      However, that's one experience. I know people from Canada with both good/bad stories of social medical.

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor Год назад +7

      @@jh5131 Facts, and that's a terrifying thought. I don't think I've known anyone with good things to say about VA healthcare. It actually seems like active-duty gets a totally different level of care. I dated a girl in the military and she had "Tri-Care" insurance I think? It seemed pretty good, but we also lived just outside of many major military/govt installations.

    • @HanTheProphet
      @HanTheProphet Год назад

      @@drownthepoorhealth care up here has been pretty great for me anecdotally.
      I suppose it could be bad if your family doctor is dog shit, it’s not the easiest to switch I believe

  • @ThornCreates
    @ThornCreates Год назад +102

    Can we take a moment to appreciate how amazing the sound design was for the "Clever girl." scene from jurassic park, and how satisfying the sounds from loading the shots into the SPAS-12, to unfurling the stock was? That scene sticks out to me from every movie i've ever watched when it comes to satisfying and well thought out sound design. And kudos to you for refreshing that scene in my head.

  • @jamjamjovi
    @jamjamjovi Год назад +234

    Cool! The 8.6 is pretty slick. I'm glad to see more people doing videos on it.

    • @masobburke2265
      @masobburke2265 Год назад +2

      Bro you did not read it that fast it 21 min long

    • @johnqpublic2718
      @johnqpublic2718 Год назад +6

      Needs that dopamine hit that comes from a potential notice by senpai

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula Год назад +1

      That's how marketing works.

    • @TheDoorspook11c
      @TheDoorspook11c Год назад +2

      I was a little surprised. It seemed like it would be low speed easy, but hot damn that energy was nasty!

    • @whatsmolly5741
      @whatsmolly5741 Год назад +1

      ​@TheDoorspook11c ballistic gel makes anything look crazy in slow motion.
      8.6 subs are about 700 foot pounds and 300 blackout subs are about 600 foot pounds with 220 grain projectiles so it's really only a 100 foot pound increase but you also trade that for mag capacity.

  • @KankedTv
    @KankedTv Год назад +216

    Never heard of Ree but I want to just say I appreciate what they're doing. My grandpa was drafted into the Navy in Vietnam and has fought with the VA tirelessly for benefits. Appreciate you guys.

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard Год назад

      My uncle was drafted into the army for Vietnam, later died of complications likely caused by agent orange exposure. The VA was less than useless. And of course they never would admit that AO had anything to do with it. F the VA.

    • @myfavoritemartian1
      @myfavoritemartian1 Год назад +15

      My son is an RN at the local VA. He also is a Vet himself. Even he has problems getting appointments and cooperation. (You would think he would have some inside pull) The major problems are: 1-Manditory Paperwork, 2-No sense of urgency, 3-Dealing with secure seated civilian staff members who don't care. 4- Heavy layers of Federal Bureaucracy.

    • @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
      @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 Год назад +10

      It is even worse when you get drafted and they don't pay up. Like, hello, I literally did not sign up for this crap.

    • @crewchief5144
      @crewchief5144 Год назад +2

      I just got a call from the VA last Saturday. They didn't leave a voice mail...on a Saturday. Want to bet my record says "tried to contact, patient never returned call."?
      They are masters at dodging phones. I've called an office I was sitting in waiting for a "walk-ins welcome" appointment and watched them not answer it.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Год назад

      @@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 Some say one of the modern schemes in the Biden admin to cover up political crimes is to start a war and then draft mass Americans into a war that can't be won, which would guarantee mass Americans who know too much will perish.

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco Год назад +814

    The sound from that suppressed 8.6 round actually sounds like the made up suppressed sound they use in movies and games. Just a POP... impressive.

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 Год назад +26

      I wonder how much of the signature is just from the primer pop. It's not nothing, we knew that as far back as WW2 when they were developing the DeLisle carbine.... Which, when you think about it, this comes close to being an updated version of.

    • @vinkniv
      @vinkniv Год назад +5

      Accuracy international makes rifles as quiet as these for many years.

    • @propanetankhank9588
      @propanetankhank9588 Год назад +5

      @@vinkniv those things cost you as much as a car);

    • @vinkniv
      @vinkniv Год назад +7

      @@propanetankhank9588 I didnt know that. My friend was in Dutch special forces and told me they had an AW covert integrally suppressed sniper and it was whisper quiet. That was roughly 10 years ago.

    • @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
      @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Год назад

      @@vinknivOh so Arctic Warfare is a kind of product line from Accuracy International or am i messing up nomenclature?

  • @justinramirez9733
    @justinramirez9733 Год назад +31

    Cutting the weight of an big game rifle down that much is incredible. Imagine how much nicer a hunt will be without a dinosaur on your back.

  • @CasualCOD
    @CasualCOD Год назад +674

    I've never seen a round FLY through THREE ballistic gel blocks the way this did. That's beyond anything we see on a regular basis, and I can't wait to watch how popular this round becomes

    • @TacticoolPenguin
      @TacticoolPenguin Год назад +40

      It clearly has ass behind it. But ammo companies need to figure out how to get it to dump its energy. Right now for big game it’s fine especially for a subsonic. I’m confident discreet ballistics, as well as others, will find the sweet spot.

    • @XBullitt16X
      @XBullitt16X Год назад +43

      Right ? I bust out laughing, when it went through the 3rd one lmao.

    • @XBullitt16X
      @XBullitt16X Год назад +12

      yeah flying straight though humans is not so good@@TacticoolPenguin

    • @nigelman9506
      @nigelman9506 Год назад +35

      @@XBullitt16X Good against a crowd of zombies

    • @DrakyHRT
      @DrakyHRT Год назад +30

      @@XBullitt16X Unless that human has body armor, then it's perfect for making some bad guys regret their lifes.

  • @natekinzie4749
    @natekinzie4749 Год назад +273

    I can't get over Mike's face when Micah went full Charlie with the signature reduction explanation!!😂😂

    • @titusdaniel
      @titusdaniel Год назад +7

      You can tell he's thinking about the edit at this point. He knows he has to maintain a straight face for at least a few seconds before he breaks. 😆

  • @KeithFoster-re5xj
    @KeithFoster-re5xj Год назад +195

    How smooth that round goes through the gel honestly looks like cheap CGI which kinda freaks me out. That's absolutely incredible and I love it.

    • @waters3700
      @waters3700 Год назад

      i was thinking the same thing hahah this is crazy

    • @paintballplayer700
      @paintballplayer700 Год назад +11

      aka these expensive "guaranteed to expand" bullets don't perform for shit lol

    • @hhhhhhhhh1071
      @hhhhhhhhh1071 Год назад +3

      ​@@paintballplayer700idk about this because I'm no gunsmith, but in my opinion it's not a good way to prove that since this is a very new round still in development

    • @kristian5632
      @kristian5632 Год назад

      that's because it is CGI

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Год назад

      Ever seen something slow, heavy, with a flat nose go through gel? Like a WFN hard-cast .45-70 slug?

  • @jimmybonse7151
    @jimmybonse7151 Год назад +111

    I'm rooting so hard for 8.6 blackout. We need this cartridge, but I don't want to invest in a rifle until it's SAAMI spec'd and I know it'll be around for a while.

    • @goldenremnant2610
      @goldenremnant2610 8 месяцев назад +1

      Just get a reloading station… 6.5 CM casing is not too hard to come by…

    • @michaelwinckler3211
      @michaelwinckler3211 8 месяцев назад

      Need is a strong word lol

    • @Bobbylegs37
      @Bobbylegs37 8 месяцев назад +2

      I don't get the hype. 350 legend can throw a heavier bullet out of a smaller action at the same speed.

    • @Bobbylegs37
      @Bobbylegs37 8 месяцев назад

      I don't get the hype. 350 legend can throw a heavier bullet out of a smaller action at the same speed.

    • @Bobbylegs37
      @Bobbylegs37 8 месяцев назад

      I don't get the hype. 350 legend can throw a heavier bullet out of a smaller action at the same speed.

  • @HumanThePerson
    @HumanThePerson Год назад +5171

    The lore from garand thumb is better than most films produced in the past 3 years

    • @ceaton39
      @ceaton39 Год назад +159

      Seriously. Someone needs to compile a Documentary titled "The Ballad of Flannel-Daddy"

    • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
      @Youtube-Censorship-Police Год назад +38

      explains why i constantly hang around on this channel and never went to the cinema in the last few years😄

    • @djdrack4681
      @djdrack4681 Год назад +40

      He was trained by John Wick, and his SERE training involved Agent 47 as the enemy combatant.

    • @spylingual8573
      @spylingual8573 Год назад +13

      30* years

    • @VinceAikens
      @VinceAikens Год назад +24

      Hollyweird sucks. Dang so called perverted writers can stay on strike forever. Lol

  • @kearnsey64
    @kearnsey64 Год назад +261

    The fact we need Reemedical is absolutely sickening. Kudos to you guys!❤

    • @dontask8979
      @dontask8979 Год назад +19

      Agree.
      Anyone medically discharged should receive full pay and benefits tax free for life.

    • @georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330
      @georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 Год назад +3

      I used them. It’s better to pay $2k and get 100% than to have DAV take $10k out of my backpay.

    • @deeetherton445
      @deeetherton445 Год назад +2

      Same with Wounded Warrior and all the other veterans assistance programs. VA should handle it all without a problem to the vetrans and no need for other charities. So much wrong with how we do things through government.

    • @nagsal1600
      @nagsal1600 Год назад

      @@dontask8979 Welcome to average Europa land lmfao
      I agree on that fact I don't imagine living that US way ,-,

    • @Your_Evil_Femboy
      @Your_Evil_Femboy 11 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@nagsal1600don’t worry, we can’t imagine living in the uk land either. It’s why we separated over 200 years ago from ya.

  • @eamonnholland5343
    @eamonnholland5343 Год назад +134

    Almost didn't even look like the round would stop in the ballistic gel no matter how many blocks you set up. Looked like it was a rocket propelled drill, and zoomed out the other side like it was having a lovely, lovely day. One of the coolest ballistic gel tests I've seen for a round.

    • @AndyDrake-FOOKYT
      @AndyDrake-FOOKYT Год назад +16

      I'd like to see it hit plates or a sheet of plywood or something else hard b4 the gel and see what happens.

  • @davelaneve2446
    @davelaneve2446 11 месяцев назад +6

    I really want one of these! The 300 BKO had the same overpenetration issues when it came out, as most bullets are designed to penetrate and expand properly at fast supersonic velocities. A few years ago we were shooting 6.5 Creedmoor at muzzle velocities of around 3000 fps. At 100-200 yards they were penetrating and expanding to about 16-18 inches in ballistic gelatin. At 1000+ yards, they were not expanding and penetrating more than 36 inches.
    With the 300 BKO, it performed much better at closer ranges once bullets were developed that were designed to penetrate and expand at subsonic velocities. So this round will be better once those bullets become available to perform at subsonic.

  • @Echo2-2
    @Echo2-2 Год назад +282

    I am impressed at how rounds and guns themselves are getting quieter and quieter as time goes on. Fascinating stuff

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Год назад +25

      the limiting factor is they have to keep the round subsonic

    • @davidstorm4911
      @davidstorm4911 Год назад +5

      It's the expensive Can & sub-sonic loads.

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@tomtemple69quiet supersonic is very doable but requires an extremely long and slender projectile. There are supersonic aircraft that have almost no sonic boom at all. Incredible.

    • @kennethschultz6465
      @kennethschultz6465 11 месяцев назад

      @echo2-2 aslong they had made MP5ad Super Silenced
      using 9mm sub sonic ammo.. a ball pen clicking was louder then MP5ad
      and the silenced ammo hat a realy thin rubber layer on the brass so the
      empty dident say ding ding when hitting stones on ground ... now that is quiet
      nothing new at all ... the crack you hear is the sonic boom from the bullit leawin the silencer
      nothing new about that again..

    • @dashdartfun
      @dashdartfun 10 месяцев назад

      @@tomtemple69 Not necessarily. In theory if your projectile is thin enough the sonic boom should be very quiet.

  • @J4CKWR4TH
    @J4CKWR4TH Год назад +117

    The 8.6 has been my most thought about round since I heard about it, I expect a lot of cool things in the future based on this tech.

    • @thelittledetailscr7231
      @thelittledetailscr7231 Год назад +10

      I don't know if there is much tech to it. It's a 6.5 creedmoor case necked up to 338 with a fast twist barrel. That it.

    • @mercury4510
      @mercury4510 Год назад +24

      ⁠@@thelittledetailscr7231 if it’s so simple why didn’t you think of it first then 😂
      Oh wait it probably took a team of people weeks or months to find the Goldilocks combo of existing rounds and rifling. Either through data crunching or extensive range testing, and then manufacturing the rifles and rounds for further testing, and clearly they’re still refining it.
      It’s not as simple as “stuff a 338 in a 6.5 that shit will be bonkers!!”

    • @thelittledetailscr7231
      @thelittledetailscr7231 Год назад +7

      @@mercury4510 I'm a psychologist, so it is not my job to create new rounds. Plus I'm in California, so there is no use in creating subs as we can't have suppressors.
      What data is there to crunch? Fast burning powder like 300bo uses, neck up the case...only thing left is to see what twist works best.

    • @Hornet135
      @Hornet135 Год назад

      @@mercury4510 Since you’re such an expert, I guess you came up with 8.6.

    • @DPham1
      @DPham1 Год назад +12

      Everything seems simple after it's been invented

  • @limacharlietac
    @limacharlietac Год назад +216

    More effort goes into making these videos than my entire life. And we thank you

    • @jacobzindel987
      @jacobzindel987 Год назад +2

      Your entire life has lead up to that epic comment.

    • @Cheka__
      @Cheka__ Год назад +1

      You put more effort into one second of your life than I've put into twenty years of mine.

    • @neithertwosturrr3016
      @neithertwosturrr3016 Год назад

      Forgotten weapons did it first lol

    • @kingbeeris8814
      @kingbeeris8814 Год назад

      I agree 😂

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Год назад

      So are you saying, you're a low achiever?

  • @PaulDJr
    @PaulDJr Год назад +11

    Awesome introduction, as always! 😄 Not only is your content educational, but it is entertaining as well, keeping your audience engaged at all times. Keep up the great work guys!

  • @drumbum353
    @drumbum353 Год назад +136

    I am surprised you didn’t shoot an armor plate with it. That’s the biggest test we need to see now 👍🏻

    • @gamesandsoftwares1441
      @gamesandsoftwares1441 Год назад +6

      more vids on this i guess

    • @tjbouch
      @tjbouch Год назад +3

      This

    • @en31337
      @en31337 Год назад +2

      Kept that for demoranch 😂

    • @rockon772
      @rockon772 Год назад +4

      It’ll get banned asap

    • @drumbum353
      @drumbum353 Год назад

      @@rockon772 probably, but he’d post insta reels later in the week and we’d have all the answers we need. (I’d prefer a 30 minute video though 😂)

  • @nerysalguero3956
    @nerysalguero3956 Год назад +63

    Thanks for the heads up on that veterans assistance. My buddy is currently in the backlog with the VA. They dragging their feet get his paperwork through so he can get his percentage and finally get his benefits. Hopefully they can help him

  • @spenn0806
    @spenn0806 Год назад +31

    Super happy to see the REE medical clip. Can’t recommend them enough! They helped me immensely after getting pounded by the VA for years.

  • @Meloncholymadness
    @Meloncholymadness Год назад +14

    Jeez that rifle is incredible, just that whole setup from the optic to the round... Envy!

    • @SamI-jk5vt
      @SamI-jk5vt 9 месяцев назад +2

      what rifle is it?

    • @davidmclennan9084
      @davidmclennan9084 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@SamI-jk5vt Q Fix if you havent found the answer yet

    • @jamesriver-br6hc
      @jamesriver-br6hc 2 месяца назад

      @@davidmclennan9084 thank you so much i was looking for the name of the gun but didnt realize when he said Q i thought it was a brand name that sponsored him or something

  • @codydalton6011
    @codydalton6011 Год назад +36

    Mike love your videos, and its awesome seeing REE Medical on your channel they helped me get from 60% to 100%.

  • @TheDecoyDude
    @TheDecoyDude Год назад +346

    Am I the only person that is noticing that Garand Thumb has tons more tats every video? Went from none to 2 sleeves pretty quickly

    • @WALTER4999__
      @WALTER4999__ Год назад +70

      he was on instagram live a couple days ago getting one lol

    • @benjaminnevins5211
      @benjaminnevins5211 Год назад +56

      Previous "job" probably didn't allow it.

    • @ericpettyfishing
      @ericpettyfishing Год назад +54

      Steroids too

    • @kczcb4697
      @kczcb4697 Год назад +8

      There’s a tattoo artist in Idaho who’s been very busy.

    • @badco27
      @badco27 Год назад +49

      He’s been hanging around post Malone too much

  • @texasexotics9645
    @texasexotics9645 Год назад +42

    man i just gotta say you’re one of the best firearm youtubers, top tier quality my friend

  • @cokeyNbk
    @cokeyNbk Год назад +14

    Always appreciate garand due to his no nonsense nature and saying what others are scared to but what everyone wants to hear. How good does a round stop people, yes. . .

  • @Publius380a.C.
    @Publius380a.C. Год назад +221

    Mike as always demonstrates that he's the realest guy on this app, W for supporting screwed over Vets. Keep up the good work guys!

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Год назад +4

      What app?

    • @CertifiedSunset
      @CertifiedSunset Год назад

      @@eriklarson9137 RUclips is an app for mobile so he's likely talking about that.

    • @Kernnun
      @Kernnun Год назад

      @@eriklarson9137 most use their phone

    • @pierrelecoq4945
      @pierrelecoq4945 Год назад

      @@eriklarson9137 ytb

    • @DrakyHRT
      @DrakyHRT Год назад

      @@eriklarson9137 youtube on mobile devices is an app, not a website.

  • @nftvegeta538
    @nftvegeta538 Год назад +25

    yo Garand ...I Just want to say thank you man
    these videos is so much fun and informative
    and i think a lot of people including my self love what your doing not for only the "fire arms " community but also for the viewers and many more ...your positive vibe is what people need and a lot of people watch your videos and use it as a way to escape stress, anxiety, depression...
    so thanks man ...really

  • @Phahr
    @Phahr Год назад +31

    Solid dad advice! Micah should have his own 80’s sitcom!

  • @Quad5Ny
    @Quad5Ny Год назад +2

    I believe the extra rotation along with the bullet shape is helping it cut through the gel blocks as the bullet moves forward - leading to less loss of forward momentum on the bullet.

    • @analogludite9575
      @analogludite9575 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Like the difference between a drill bit and a nail going through a 2 x4. It's like it's screwing and chewing through rather than pushing.

  • @payne7761
    @payne7761 Год назад +54

    Took me 14 years of off and on fighting with the VA to get up to 100%. The Ree boys are doing good work, I wish they'd been around when I was going through that battle.

  • @benjaminnevins5211
    @benjaminnevins5211 Год назад +50

    I was always wondering why this round existed, but now it looks fun.

    • @beavismagnum
      @beavismagnum Год назад +3

      First was 7.62x39 but worse, now we have 9x39 but worse

    • @thekraken1173
      @thekraken1173 Год назад +18

      @@beavismagnum Blackouts don’t require big curvy magazines so you can actually carry multiple magazines.

    • @johnnyshanksalot8358
      @johnnyshanksalot8358 Год назад +3

      @@beavismagnum7.62x39 doesn't run supers so there's no comparison there, it's only a handgun round power-wise. If you want subs that don't suck compared to rifles, you gotta go 458 socom, etc.

  • @Darkhalo314
    @Darkhalo314 3 месяца назад +1

    For anybody wondering, the rifle Mike is using is the:
    Q - The Fix 8.6 Blackout 16"

    • @ThorVeras
      @ThorVeras 3 месяца назад

      Appears to be the 12'' version, can you confirm that is the 16 ?

    • @ParasitikOne
      @ParasitikOne Месяц назад +1

      he even said in the video it’s a 12 inch barrel

  • @larryjohnson150
    @larryjohnson150 Год назад +20

    As a civilian my only reference for the VA is veteran friends I have and it blew my mind the stories they would tell me. A good friend of mine I met at gunsmith school was 26, fresh out of the Marines where he was an artillerymen and he was deaf as a hammer. Like extreme hearing loss for that age and when I asked if the VA would give him hearing aids he said they wouldn’t provide them till he had at least 80% hearing loss. Apparently he only had 78% or some shit, anyways that’s one of many stories I heard from all those guys and it just sounded like the VA was always a damn nightmare.
    All I know is we need to get that shit fixed before anyone puts any thought into free government run health care!

  • @fracturedrealitygaming1326
    @fracturedrealitygaming1326 Год назад +76

    This round introduces reduced minimap visibility when firing 8.6, especially when Ghillie suit is equipped

    • @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
      @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 Год назад +1

      Be careful saying that. The fbi may send 50 agents to your house. 😅

    • @fracturedrealitygaming1326
      @fracturedrealitygaming1326 Год назад +7

      @@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 it’s a call of duty joke. I doubt even the fbi is so stupid they can’t figure that one out

    • @Cayylub
      @Cayylub Год назад +1

      Don’t forget about the slower ADS, sprint speed, and damage because of the suppressor 😜

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Год назад

      @@fracturedrealitygaming1326Frankly, I wouldn't bet against the FBI being that stupid; they've shown themselves to be pretty damn subhuman.

    • @mogonja420
      @mogonja420 Год назад

      The feds play cod

  • @jeffwillburn9455
    @jeffwillburn9455 Год назад +28

    Did anybody else see the flash ignition in the gel for the 8.6 FMJ that’s cool asf, I think all the air compressing in the gel superheated it 11:18

  • @roangrahm1529
    @roangrahm1529 Год назад +5

    I REALLY want to see what this does to armor after seeing it go through three blocks like they weren't even there.

  • @Swissk31300BO
    @Swissk31300BO Год назад +36

    If garand thumb is the reason more manufacturers make 8.6 and it gets sammi standard I will be forever grateful. 2.50-3.00 bucks a round factory and 1.5 ish for reloads ain’t great right now.

    • @YesImKyle
      @YesImKyle Год назад +3

      I was just about to research building one. Thanks for saving me some time haha

    • @lugia233
      @lugia233 Год назад +1

      Man as a big time magnum guy that is cheap haha

    • @Swissk31300BO
      @Swissk31300BO Год назад +3

      @@lugia233 this is replacing 45-70, 44 msg and just sbout everything but 22 and 300 blackout for me. So buying 5-10k is not a good time right now. Either reloading components or factory ammo.
      Hopefully this video really kicks ammo components manufacturing into overdrive

    • @brighthought11
      @brighthought11 Год назад +1

      @@Swissk31300BO why is this round replacing so many? explain

    • @Swissk31300BO
      @Swissk31300BO Год назад

      @@brighthought11 did u watch the video?

  • @Buletspunge555
    @Buletspunge555 Год назад +116

    Mike, really enjoying the evolution of your content. The decision to include Micah and Charlie is so clutch. Making it a fun time with bros, helps to bring your audience into the experience. Good job fellas!!

  • @shooteveryday1841
    @shooteveryday1841 Год назад +45

    For armor piercing - they could just put a drill bit on the tip given its rotation speed..

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Год назад

      Its*

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 Год назад +4

      It would come out flying from that **tarded twist-rate and - likely - off-center bit (as it would be a nightmare to get it perfectly centered).

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger Год назад

      ​@@RealMTBAddictAndroid autocomplete puts the apostrophe in automatically, which is fucking annoying.

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Год назад +1

      @@skepticalbadger yep mine does it too. Gotta stay vigilant because the grammar General is here lol

  • @PikemanLures
    @PikemanLures Год назад +25

    I would really like to see this compared to the .458 Socom for hunting. The 8.6 has the penetration but the Socom has the energy.

  • @timtimtimmay4654
    @timtimtimmay4654 Год назад +14

    Currently fighting the VA with REE Medical. Can confirm they are great to work with. Will follow up on this post once the process is finished if anyone else is curious.

  • @GingerBeardMan977
    @GingerBeardMan977 Год назад +70

    300 and 8.6 blackout are straight up assassin rounds. quiet and precise in their range

    • @ryanhamstra49
      @ryanhamstra49 Год назад +10

      I mean, .300 was made for the seals, so you aren’t wrong

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 Год назад +1

      Precise in their range applies to every round. 300 blackout started as a subsonic hunting cartridge. Considering nost assassinations performed with a firearm are performed at close quarters with non suppressed guns, the whole statement just seems a little poorly thought out.

    • @helmut1388
      @helmut1388 Год назад +4

      When we went "downrange" and I heard the first round, I thought that's quite loud. Then I heard him loading the next round and the noise was about the same as the shot. Insane.

    • @johnmoss4624
      @johnmoss4624 Год назад +3

      @@ryanhamstra49 we're not using clubs anymore?

    • @themexis
      @themexis Год назад

      looks like headshots are back on the table 😄

  • @yeshwah
    @yeshwah 10 месяцев назад +3

    what is the rifle called? (at 3:00) and is it available for sale?

  • @bobbytables4305
    @bobbytables4305 Год назад +61

    Can we take a minute to appreciate that next little dad joke that Micah made. Now that he's a dad the power has been fully realized

    • @saureco
      @saureco Год назад +3

      He'll reach his true final form once someone touches the thermostat.

  • @JohnDoe-go3kv
    @JohnDoe-go3kv Год назад +10

    "I don't know, man, I think I'm just a little bit lost"
    I felt that.

  • @BuckleyWiley
    @BuckleyWiley Год назад +15

    I have had my 2 8.6s for a year now and I love both my fix and ar10 they are very quiet

  • @qwertyuio905
    @qwertyuio905 Год назад +5

    You should do a comparison between the 8.6 with its crazy spin and a 338 win mag shooting 285g maker bullets (11.4g of tb) out of a 1:10 twist.
    Very accurate with some incredible pass through on hard targets. Soft targets the bullets open up.
    Would be an interesting "shoot out"
    The 338 cost half of what the can did, not the other way around.

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill3257 Год назад +9

    "How would you describe the 8.6 blackout? " ..." Like a .338 whisper "

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR Год назад +77

    That round literally drills through, like there was nothing there Wow! What an amazing round so far!
    Also we have grizzly bear, cougar around here. Already have a 300 Winchester magnum but it's not going to punch near as deep as this guy will. And all you guys thinking passed through is too far think about bones or skull you might have to punch through. It's not gel.

    • @ElementofKindness
      @ElementofKindness Год назад +12

      And that penetration makes it a terrible round for hunting and self defense. Pass through is energy wasted. The objective should always be to dissipate 100% of the energy in the target.

    • @CrimsonSp33d
      @CrimsonSp33d Год назад +9

      @@ElementofKindnessonly good for big game hunting at that point, but would have to see the energy delivered at the stop. Penetration is absolutely crazy, would like to some vests take a few rounds

    • @oboylebeast
      @oboylebeast Год назад +6

      You have never hunted if you don't think passthrough is important in hunting. Go watch some of the videos on how it performs on african game. Im sure you won't have issues with expansion when hitting a ribcage or shoulder of an elk.

    • @sonofnone116
      @sonofnone116 Год назад +1

      ​@@ElementofKindnesscheck out discreet ballistics real-world tests on the high-rotational energy. It ensures the petals actually open up on hunting projectiles at subsonic velocities. The added benefit is a MUCH higher surface area in the wound channel, meaning more devestating bleeding. KB has plenty of animals taken on & off film with the 8.6.

    • @sixfootdworf9545
      @sixfootdworf9545 Год назад

      Engery dump is based upon round type. It depends on the round design.

  • @casacerian
    @casacerian Год назад +8

    Great video, great rifle, but also a great sponsor. I used REE medical for my own claim and everything went perfectly. Highly recommend.

  • @up4open
    @up4open Год назад +6

    You made a good point, that high pierce would be interesting to test against lvl 3.

  • @cody180sx
    @cody180sx Год назад +6

    Currently building an 8.6BLK AR. Getting ahold of the barrel and finding the ammo, if you don't reload, are the hardest things to get. Faxon is the only one currently making barrels, they made the ones for Q for this rifle. Everything else is pretty much standard for a .308 build though, even the bcg.

    • @seanridner1385
      @seanridner1385 Год назад +2

      Just a heads up to anyone reading this - I am also at near completion of an 8" 8.6blk LR-308 build. Currently, the barrel is back at Faxon for testing since 300gr SMKs are getting jammed into the lands of the barrel (I believe the freebore in the barrel was not cut long enough) and cannot be extracted manually without the bullet separating from the case. I found that setting the bullet into the case a few hundredths deeper resolves the issue. Will update with Faxon's response if I can remember lol

    • @cody180sx
      @cody180sx 10 месяцев назад

      Finished mine, it's so awesome to shoot other than the price of ammo. Everyone I've let try it loves it, the bullet smacking the railroad tie backstop at 100 yards is louder than the gunshot when suppressed.

  • @Nickalzz
    @Nickalzz 6 месяцев назад +1

    5:25 this cut lol 👌👌perfect

  • @zacksimpson6029
    @zacksimpson6029 Год назад +13

    Discreet ammo is phenomenal for subsonic applications. I haven’t found a better round for my 300 blk, waiting for 8.6!

  • @markbrown4597
    @markbrown4597 4 месяца назад +1

    14:37 "He's out of line , but he's right"

  • @theimmortal4718
    @theimmortal4718 Год назад +11

    That penetration you're seeing in subsonic 8.6 Blackout matches that of the .338 LM at 1800-2000 yards

    • @NinjaofApathy
      @NinjaofApathy Год назад

      Really? I haven't seen a ballistic test for 338lm ever...can you hook us up with a source? Thanks in advance.

    • @theimmortal4718
      @theimmortal4718 Год назад

      @@NinjaofApathy
      This is the same bullet and velocity as a 338 going subsonic after tracking 1800 - 2000 yards

  • @CWHolleman
    @CWHolleman Год назад +7

    The whole reason I got into .300 Blackout was the fact the round fit in AR mags and worked in AR platforms.
    These days I have a really hard time justifying a new caliber being added to the collection, especially considering the cost of these rounds.
    For now I'll stick with my bolt action .300 and Honey Badger

    • @RowdyPNW
      @RowdyPNW Год назад +4

      8.6 is the same concept in 308 bolt and gas guns, all you need is a barrel swap just like 300 blk in 556 guns.

  • @stephenhogg2472
    @stephenhogg2472 Год назад +38

    The hollow points would give me cause for concern at anything that may be behind my target that I haven’t seen. That round looks like it’d hardly slow down going through 2-3 people.

    • @Token_Black_Guy
      @Token_Black_Guy Год назад +8

      What u don't want those call of duty collaterals?

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse Год назад +2

      Was that the hollow point in the first ballistics test they did? Tbh I thought "magnum" was something else

    • @stephenhogg2472
      @stephenhogg2472 Год назад

      @@Scroolewse The first, second and third ballistics gel tests, lol.

    • @stephenhogg2472
      @stephenhogg2472 Год назад

      @@Token_Black_Guy nope and I wouldn’t want the manslaughter charges either.

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse Год назад

      @@stephenhogg2472 oh wtf why did a hollow point round do that

  • @illuminape7632
    @illuminape7632 Год назад +1

    8.6 black: "hey, sorry, I'm trying to get somewhere, can't stop"
    awp: "PARTIES HERE!"

  • @TheHorzabora
    @TheHorzabora Год назад +8

    I was impressed with the Fix when Ian first reviewed it, and now I’m even more impressed - both from the absurd penetration perspective (although how practical it is can be open to question) and how much fun it appears to be to shoot.
    I think it has the potential to be a very good scout rifle, certainly as a backup or secondary weapon in conjunction with something more general purpose.
    But then, I have odd ideas about what a practical use case for such weapons in a conflict scenario I - or someone else - might be involved in.
    And - perhaps more realistically in current usage - it seems to be intensely good fun.

  • @davidl416
    @davidl416 Год назад +12

    The 8.6 caught my attention the first time I saw it for hunting applications. I settled on a 450 BM running subsonic/suppressed.

    • @machinesandthings7121
      @machinesandthings7121 Год назад

      Why did you choose that over 458 Socom?

    • @davidl416
      @davidl416 Год назад +2

      @machinesandthings7121
      Ease of finding ammo and bullet selection either manufactured or what I reload for myself.
      The 450BM can sling a 200gr over 2600fps or simply sling a 395gr at 1050fps for subsonic use.
      I do have a 458Socom and 50 beo to also play with, and both are great rounds and effective depending on your needs. The 450BM is just way more popular cartridge and feeding it easier than most other big bores.
      Never seen 458 in any store, seen 50beo twice in the last 5 or 6 years, 450 is everywhere, basically.

    • @themoose66
      @themoose66 Год назад

      ​@@davidl416black butterfly makes some insane hunting loads for 450bm and 458socom

  • @theprojectproject01
    @theprojectproject01 Год назад +2

    I absolutely get what they're doing with the super-fast twist-- rotational energy doesn't bleed off NEARLY as fast as linear energy-- but I'd had ZERO idea that that would translate to this kind of penetration. I'd really like to see what it does on meat and bone, or at least stacked layers of wet newsprint and 1/4" plywood.

  • @starcraft2-bdh863
    @starcraft2-bdh863 Год назад +4

    Literally the greatest intros of all of youtube history. Fcking love this guy. See you at the MAP festival guys. Well like not in the crowd but like on a roof top looking down at it with a scope 😉

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Год назад +1

      That's literally your opinion. Which means nothing lol

  • @markmartin4639
    @markmartin4639 Год назад +9

    Great video. Check out 375 Raptor. Same concept but bigger bullets.

  • @NotElmerKeith1
    @NotElmerKeith1 Год назад +8

    So a bolt action 300 BO is pretty darn quiet ---much quieter than in an AR platform. But...this is a very impressive round with some unique roles ahead.

  • @freedomfirst5420
    @freedomfirst5420 Год назад

    The 8.6 Blackout literally drills through those blocks!

  • @brandonhintz7852
    @brandonhintz7852 Год назад +10

    It would be cool to see the effects of this 8.6 and load through different levels of armor into ballistic blocks.

  • @iammattbennett
    @iammattbennett Год назад +5

    Gel blocks are likely highly compromised by the outside temps. THAT SAID, still pretty impressive. Another great vid.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Год назад +1

      Animal based gel would fail quickly. Some of the Clear Ballistics stuff is a lot more stable.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 Год назад +1

      ​@@exothermal.sprocketexcept it had visibly melted to the table.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Год назад

      @@ravissary79 Yeah it will eventually. I bet the temps were pretty hot there.

  • @MrLucky426
    @MrLucky426 Год назад +9

    I would like to see what that round does to 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 AR500 plates at 25 or 50yrds. Impressive, love the vid👌

  • @EkulGgats
    @EkulGgats 17 дней назад

    I wonder if there's like an air pocket effect along with that twist rate helping that one subsonic round sail through like that that is crazy

  • @christopherweakley3946
    @christopherweakley3946 Год назад +10

    My suspicion is that the spin rate combined with the velocity and large diameter hollow point creates a “cutting” type condition. It would be interesting to see what a similar bullet would do in a supersonic condition.

    • @henryreed6237
      @henryreed6237 Год назад +1

      I don’t think it actually expanded….

    • @saureco
      @saureco Год назад +4

      Imagine replicating a metal milling bit operation in a 285gr slug at 100yds.
      You haven't been shot. You have been remotely machined.

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 10 месяцев назад +1

      I think it also helps that its subsonic so it dumps less energy into the target.

  • @derekturner3272
    @derekturner3272 Год назад +7

    I built a 338 spectre years ago after falling in love with it's specs. It's based on the 41 Mag pistol case and cases are available for purchase. The itch spread and I ended up building a 510 whisper off an old 338 Lapua Mag setup. The 510 Whisper is subsonic only and at 500 meters, it only looses about 90 fps with a 760 gn high BC projectile. Here piggy piggy piggy, THUMP!!! I digress, the beauty of the 338 spectre is, it feeds and runs the ar15 action! Yup, full bolt carry through and rechambering every time with a stock gas system and buffer and mags. Just a barrel and bolt and you're in business with a 338 thumper thats tried and tested.

  • @forestgiest1380
    @forestgiest1380 Год назад +5

    Best cartridge that will never be less then 2$ Pr round.
    Shipping not included.

  • @timmytenders8536
    @timmytenders8536 Месяц назад +1

    @Grand Thumb
    need a follow up on this with ballistics from different types of ammo

  • @yankeefist9146
    @yankeefist9146 Год назад +6

    Great dad advice, I'm trying to instill that upon my kid who is looking at fancy universities to get their associates degree.
    Debt sucks.

  • @B-leafer
    @B-leafer Год назад +5

    Garand Thumb should DEFINITELY be in films. Absolutely no question. He could star in ANY action film and sell out the theater no problem

    • @Kriss_L
      @Kriss_L Год назад

      "Training Films"

  • @austincarver1036
    @austincarver1036 Год назад +2

    We definitely need to see the outcome of a ballistic dummy with level IV body armor

  • @FLORATOSOTHON
    @FLORATOSOTHON Год назад +8

    Very nice and informative video.
    The 8.6 Blackout seems to be a very interesting round.
    I wander if the bullet rotation at half a million turns per minute would create a cavitation effect if the gun was fired under water, thus allowing the round to travel straight and be effective for 50 or 60 yards.
    Maybe Dr. Garand Thumb is interested to test the 8.6 Blackout underwater.

  • @mikhailgregovszki7478
    @mikhailgregovszki7478 Год назад +11

    Reminds me of the Ruski 9x39mm, and the rifle almost reminds me of a AS-VAL, minus the automatic and integrated suppressor of course. I think this may be a good 9x39 sub for VSS & VAL clones... I like it. Thanks for sharing.

  • @wp4586
    @wp4586 Год назад +2

    The most satisfying 30 second intro ever

  • @bedlambreakfast5548
    @bedlambreakfast5548 Год назад +4

    I've had an unreasonable fetish around heavy-for-caliber rounds recently. Something about smiting stuff with a kitchen sink speaks to me deeply.

    • @justincase9282
      @justincase9282 Год назад +1

      You should see a 630gr pill going out of a 458 socom

  • @venom390re
    @venom390re 10 месяцев назад

    Good gun stuff right here, also REE got me my 100% this past June after about two years of battling the VA.

  • @kmpdesigns
    @kmpdesigns Год назад +8

    I'd be interested in a comparison of the 8.6 to the .375 Raptor

  • @dirtbikesnstuff9880
    @dirtbikesnstuff9880 Год назад

    Drooled on my phone a couple times watching this holy shit that thing is insane!

  • @axiondarion4899
    @axiondarion4899 Год назад +8

    I think you can use this rifle like the VAL\ Vintorez. Like a close range sniper and it is just as quiet. I think thats a good role for this rifle. Awesome rifle.

  • @richardmueller7023
    @richardmueller7023 Год назад +4

    Thats a very impressive round! Im curious to see it against armored targets as well.

  • @somethingtrulyhorrifying
    @somethingtrulyhorrifying Год назад

    SIGNATURE REDUCTION explanation was on point. He would make a good high school teacher.

  • @Ntmoffi
    @Ntmoffi Год назад +6

    *Cries in Californian*
    Wish I lived in a different country...like the USA.

  • @clamum9648
    @clamum9648 Год назад +4

    Love the dad advice, "if you don't have the money on hand don't spend it." I've thought that forever.
    Would like to see that crazy round shot at some armor plates (ceramic, UHWMPE).

  • @a1cwhite1
    @a1cwhite1 Год назад

    everyone i've seen that shoots this gun is blown away by it. i can't wait to get my hands on one.

  • @edigabrieli7864
    @edigabrieli7864 Год назад +7

    From what I see I think the 8.6 may fit the brush gun category.

  • @xbhendrix
    @xbhendrix Год назад +4

    'Full disclosure' sounds better than 'to be clear'

  • @clearlakerain
    @clearlakerain Год назад

    If one could get that big 8.6mm bullet to expand in the 8-16 inch range, without flying apart while traveling to the target, it will become the next "must-get" gun of the year. I'm sure they are working hard to find the right recipe right now. This rig has great potential. I M pleased.