@@rodsongreen5249 as your American Cousin. I hate yalls government for you the people. May the spirit of P.A. Ludy live on in the hearts of the few freedom loving Brits out there still
Holy moly! I thought that we wouldn't see high powered airguns on this channel but I am positively surprised! Owning one and doing competitions on a small scale has definately been super fun and I can recommend it to everyone. It is also a great tool for learning fundamentals on long range shooting and shooting in general. I have had several ranch owners asking me to come and take care of their gopher problems and I have been happy to help them out. They have been super happy with the results and were amazed how quiet the thing is. It is also a great advantage on hunting because you can get follow up shot without them running back to their holes. Coyotes are also a thing you can hunt with them and there's nothing better than sending out 68grains of lead at 1000fps towards their way.
With the little tiny downside of being a ridiculously expensive hobby. Which is also why you literally never hear about air guns being used in shootings. A medium range fx airgun costs about the same as a high end ar. Oh and to get that consistent speed you absolutely need a regulator and most likely other mods to make it all work.
@@whatsmolly5741 Well depends on what you buy and what your goals are. I started out first with a simple 300$ PCP that was a .22. Did my first gophers with that after I modified it a little. Plenty of power in that one too for small game as a stock version if you wish not to modify it. I filled out my tank in the scuba diving place for 10$ a pop and you could shoot little over a thousand rounds with the fills provided from the tank. But yeah all depends on what your looking for.
@Montana_AirGunner the effect goes up drastically as you go up in caliber, my 357 Benjamin bulldog drops like 12 inches accross 10 shots at 30 yards without a regulator and to get the regulator you need a tank that handles 5000 psi
Air guns taught me how to arc it at a young age. A valuable piece of the puzzle to master and a great way to teach your kids the basics. Thanks for the quality content once again Mike.
Airguns in the UK are restricted to 12ft/lbs for .22 which is roughly a muzzle velocity of about 570fps. if you hold the rife in a certain way and in the right light (assuming you have reasonable eyesight) you can see the pellet arc.
RIP to the air gun rep guy who got shot in a hotel because of a retarded cop who still got his pension, nevermind getting jailed for life or executed like he executed the guy.
I almost expected Ted's Holdover to be presenting. That would be the crossover of the year for sure. Also: props to the sound engineer for dealing with the extreme wind. A+ seriously.
For those just looking into the FX Impact line of air rifles, I would strongly suggest looking at a model that offers their barrel harmonic controller. You could have dialed in an even tighter group as you shot it. Sub MOA groups at 100 are the norm with an Impact, add the harmonic barrel tuner and it's a nail driver at 100.
the harmonic balancer is old tech. get a carbon fiber barrel tensioner kit, dial in your power properly, it drives tacks. the new carbon fiber tensioner kit does a much better job taming the pulse wave than the clunky harmonic balancer piece.
Got a 45. cal air rifle, the Texan LSS. You can hunt Boars with here in Europe, pretty effective and is extremely accurate up to 300 meters. More powerful than a 45. ACP
How are you liking the LSS? I have the SS and I could not imagine the extra 10? inches in length. I use a back strap with mine and it just barley is short enough to not hit the ground. You are also using the carbon fiber tank right?
@@EC-dz4bq Yeah mine is quite massive, I also added a big ass silencer to the gun. At times having trouble moving around the house with it lol... I usually just hold it in my hands or tie it to my backpack. And yeah I'm using the carbon fiber tank
@@benjaminbesselink3178 Get a sling and a remote tank mate. Which additional moderator did you go with? I highly recommend the donnyFL emperor. Good luck out there and hopefully you guys get your own 2a too
Glad that you took a look at the FX Airgun Gerand. I have three FX Impacts in .22 Caliber, .30 Caliber and .357 Caliber. My biggest airgun is the Airforce Texan .457 Caliber, and I shoot a 350 grain slug in competition at the Rocky Mountain Airgun Challenge ( RMAC ) in Utah. I shoot all of the other FX Impacts in 100 yard benchrest competitions, 50 yard benchrest competitions, PRS Competitions, speed challenge, and I have other airguns that I shoot in Hunter Field Target Competitions. You shot the FX Panthera awesome for the first time shooting it. 300 yards, first time shooting is impressive. I have shot all of my FX Impact .22 caliber with ZAN Slugs and the .357 Caliber with NSA Slugs, both out to 350 yards on steel. All three of my slug shooters can hit the 3" circle at 300 yards at the range in Indiana that I shoot long distances in. The airgun that Louis & Clark had in their journey was the Girardoni Airgun that Napolean wanted banned in war. It was a .46 caliber round ball. The air reservoir was filled to 800 PSI and was good for about 80 full power shots. The airgun was a 20-round repeater in a tubular feed magazine. If you can find one, and want to add it to any collection, it would be more than worth picking up. Thanks for the awesome video.
@@Reaperherpderp they are expensive. No different than a high end competition firearm would be. There are economic airguns available also that are accurate as well. A high end airgun will cost close to 2k and up. I have several as so do many of my fellow Airgunners, but we all compete and have a blast every weekend, and I also compete at the international competitions as well, and so do some of them as well. You can compete with these FX Impacts and FX Panthera Airguns right alongside the Vodoo’s, CZ’s, Christian Arms, in PRS, NRL22, matches and NL50 matches. It all depends on what you want to get involved in. There are members at my local gun club that shoot shotguns that cost tens of thousand dollars.
@@airguns_rc I mean i was interested but i can build decked out AR's for 2k. These seem very cool and would be fun to have and much more convenient for shooting recreationally but i dont think i can personally justify spending this much for a similar set up like in the video
@@Reaperherpderp completely understand. If you want an airgun to hang with the competition 22 LR’s of the world for example. You will end up spending that much.
Keep in mind the cost of high pressure air pumps and tanks for these captive air rifles. Quality 3000 psi pumps are rather dear, the need for good dry air has led many to choose nitrogen bottles instead. Still not inexpensive as an overall system. I shoot .45, .30, .25, .22, and .177 air rifles. It's a lot of fun, but not a cheap hobby. I first fell in love with the quality of manufacturing by Dennis Quackenbush in Missouri back in the 1980's long before the new guys took up big bore.
I have been shooting for a long time and what I have found is using airguns have greatly improved my ability to shoot better for many reasons. I think being able to practice without recoil and loud sounds and the fact I can practice in my basement and get a lot of trigger time are key to becoming a better shot.
In the old Beeman's catalog, one of the benefits of using an airgun in firearms training was maintaining a steady hold throughout the shooting cycle. The normal action just after letting a round fly is to relax a bit. It's almost instinctive, but it can happen even before the round leaves the barrel. The airgun fires at a lower velocity so the pellet is in barrel longer and any relaxing immediately after the squeeze becomes evident by dropped groups.
As a proud owner of a few of these PCP rifles and someone who served 21 years active duty army and fired plenty of weapons, these things are a blast! I have some spendy ones but honestly my favorite to just dick around with is my cheaper Benjamin Bulldog .357 cal, it’s a heavy chunk of lead that will go through 3 pressure treated 2x4s at a quarter the price per round lol
@@fullmoonprepping4024 100%, I think bang for the buck it’s still one of the best out there though prices are shooting up quick lol. You ever have any issues with yours? Mines been flawless, my more expensive have issues here and there, nothing serious but that damn bulldog is like clockwork. I bought it the year I retired from the army Jan 2019, got the Megamoderator, extra mags and the depinger, haven’t had one damn issue ❤️
Recently Joerg of the slingshot channel showed a .75 air rifle that seemed to be the obnoxious distant cousin of this. Instead of being quiet with no recoil it was pretty loud and showed Joerg about some even though he's a pretty solid dude. It would be interesting to see just how far these air rifles can be pushed, and in case of the .75 caliber just how much air it uses per shot. When Joerg tested it was tethered by a pneumatic hose to either a huge tank or a compressor, so I'm thinking a more normal tank suitable to be mounted on the rifle won't allow for all that many shots before it's depleted...
Probably the aea zues, it reaches 1500 fpe so legitimately hits harder than 5.56 Personally not a fan of the company because of my experience with their semi auto terminator and absolute lack of any customer service when I asked them why my plastic valve pin keeps breaking every few hundred shots and if they plan to do anything about it or if they expect me to purchase a mass stock of these things for 20$ each. Also straight up told me these 40$ mags they sold me they actually knew they didn't work and their only solution was for me to buy their new cnc mags for 60$. I mean a semi auto airgun pushing 150 fpe is absolutely amazing but I really wish they didn't just brush off the massive amount of customer complaints and blame everyone except themselves.
Been into air rifles since i was a kid now into the pcp air rifles , ive got 6 of them now my go to is usually my AEA hp varmint .25 , super accurate 1" groups at 100yards, perfect for woodchucks, opossums, raccoons, with .25 30 grain hollow point slugs its a beast
I slayed many birds as a kid with my Daisy .177 Cal BB/Pellet rifle. Gophers and small game animals are possible to harvest as well. Whistle pigs, ground squirrels, prairie dogs were always a hoot to shoot. Then I got a.22 rifle and then it was slay on and sometimes the bolt action.20 gauge and sometimes 12 gauge single shot. I could down 2 pheasants and or grouse with it. Speed loaded that bolt action and loved the practice I got with it. EMMETT IDAHO, W Main St, across from Stoneys Road House. Great concert venue. Governor Little has a farm here in town. Cherry 🍒🌸 Blossom Festival is awesome and soon Saturday night is cruise night with all sorts of vehicles cruising Washington Ave. ATVs to low riders, and Classic to Fantastic Rat Rods! It's awesome. Gotta anything with wheels and a motor. Dune buggies, 4X4s, Low riders and cars with pneumatics. G'd up and top down, in the valley below Freeze Out Hill and past the Drag Race Track near Meridian. There's a range out near the fruit orchards. Gun club owned. Awesome video and review of that wicked cool airgun! 👍🏼😍👍🏼👣🦅🪶
Air rifles are great and fun to shoot, but they'll never replace any firearm for most applications. Not only do they require extra gear to work (air pumps mostly, and unless you're interested in some hard workout, using hand pumps is not fun) but just the fact the propellant is stored in a pressurized bottle makes them unfeasible for anything other than hunting and target shooting. They're also rather fragile because its essentialy a row of tiny pressure valves and seals with rubber and stuff to seal them, which will fail over time. Also, I wouldn't hunt anything specially dangerous with them unless I have a firearm as a backup.
I think it poses an interesting question. With the technology available to us, why not pursue more novel firearm or uh, projectile device design? Not everything needs to be the most perfectly ruggedized zero-fail design for life or death situations. Electronic trigger controls has been proven in paintball and airsoft, valves and o-rings as well. There's no reason firearms used for competition or as range toys need to remain completely analog in function.
There's a dude in the world of 3d printed guns who's been developing an electric ignition design for his printed firearms and ammunition (doing away with the primer) I think if you want to see crazy innovation in gun tech - that's definately something to keep your eye on - though it's admittedly still in its infancy.
Constant Acceleration Pneumatics has a patented technology that enables a 22 caliber air rifle to reach 170 FPE which is significantly more than the average 22 LR at ~135 FPE. We have proven our technology's capabilities in the Air Arms S510 22 cal and in the 22 Cal Seneca Eagle Claw
I have it on good authority that the projectile fired from this penetrates 16 layers of drywall and has an effective kill range of 600m. Also, this rifle will get you totally laid.
There are better airguns than this for home defense especially where states restricts civilian gun ownership, the Benjamin bulldog in .357 cal comes to mind being a large cal air rifle with a 5 shot magazine.
If the SHTF (Shit Hits The Fan) these and compound bows will become the preferred method of procuring game for food. You won't want everyone in a 2.5 mile radius knowing that someone just procured a meal, like it would be with a firearm. These can take small game efficiently, effectively and stealthily. Don't underestimate the potential survival value of a high quality air rifle. Good video, I gave it a Thumb Up!
I own many of these including the brand shown here. I have an FX Impact m3 30 caliber and everything up to a 50 caliber that puts out 700 foot pounds. These are far from our childhood bb guns. They are 5 times or more the cost of a firearm. They're super cool and you could shoot one of these in your backyard as long as you had a very thick bsckstop and no one would be the wiser.
Considering that thing has basically no recoil, I would have liked to see you guys do some shots just supported by your hand. No resting on the dirtbike or ground or whatever that other panel was. That would have been an interesting test!
Stability support is just that. Recoil happens after the shot is made, so if you're a proficient shooter, accuracy shouldn't change much, if any, while shooting off hand unsupported recoil or not.
being from the UK i grew up with airguns. started on the shitty springers. then graduated to pre charged/compressed air type rifles. finally I have acquired enough shooting land to apply for a 22lr. I cannot get away from airguns fast enough, the expense, fucking diving bottle you have to lug around then fill at a special shop it all does my head in. The tunability is just a gimmick for me, i want something to shoot quick, simple and easy. cannot be arsed to sit googling what reg pressure to set at, and sifting through 10's of different kinds of slugs man who has the time. My man really said 13 shots per fill. that is ghastly
Not for nothing, but you can get .50, even .72 call airguns with over 800 FPE. Seen them go through four cast iron pans and crack a fifth, and a guy hitting a two litre bottle from over a mile away with enough energy to pass through it almost without disturbing the water in it. So modern PCP (pre-charged pneumatic) rifles are no joke.
I think those air rifles have a lot of utility, that you can hunt small game with them does make this a competitor with the 22. I do have an air rifle, but it's just a .177 break barrel so not the kind of power this has. But I could take down game the size of a racoon with it, which says a lot.
looks interesting, but got dissapointed at 04:20 where they talk of '3fps' as the extreme spread, and how this is better than a rimfire, but don't point out the actual muzzle velocity.... unless the velocities are equal, comparing the spread is irrelevant.
We use to have bb gun wars with my brother and 2 other friends in the junkyard of my hometoen frankfort indiana. Numerous hospital visits and alot of ass whoopins 😂😂
Love the FX Air guns but for the price I will just stick to my 22cal and that’s the part people are forgetting about.I’m a working man I I just can’t fathom spending that much on air gun when it’s being compared to a real gun.
you said it grouped about an inch. That's freaking amazing at 100 yards it's less so at 100 feet. Could you let us know what distance that was shot at please?
In essence, aren't all cartridge's fire rifles "Air" rifles, I mean the projectile doesn't have a propellent, its air pressure pushing it out the barrel.
with the ridiculous price of .22 lr ammunition air-guns are becoming a close second. With the ridiculous price for a complete PCP air-gun setup and their delicate construction they will never replace the .22 lr for the average target shooter or small game hunter. However Ozzy Osborn is an avid PCP air-gunner which makes them more acceptable in Beverly Hills, California. : )
Very intricate parts, some of which are directly exposed to elements. A 10/22 has been proven to be able to take a beating and carry on, but these have way too many delicate parts
Need a gun license here in Australia and are classed as a 22LR and huge fines and jail if you have one without license, hell in some states even GEL Blasters are not legal.
Ive had a 1pump shotgun style air rifle that shoots .22 at 1300 fps for like 15 years. Ive never hit a bullseye with it. Not once. Good to see some actual performance from something with this power.
These things are a lot more accurate than rimfire. That's not up for debate at this point. There are pros and cons to both, but I'm really surprised people don't realise that a lot of airguns are more powerful than even 22WMR and getting well up into the larger handgun calibers in terms of muzzle energy with some, like the AEA Zeus ect, which can deliver around 1000 ft/lbs of energy. The thing is, these are tunable to a degree no powder burner ever will be. And in the matches this particular airgun is designed for, it's actually got an unfair advantage. One thing they didn't mention in the video is the grain weights it's able to shoot, which can be heavier than 22LR, and the fact that modern airgun slugs have higher BCs than 22LR, and that it normally being subsonic isn't actually a disadvantage either because nobody uses supersonic 22LR in competitions for the exact same reason nobody shoots airguns supersonic, the projectile falls back through the sound barrier and destabilizes before it gets to the target. In short, this can do everything a competition 22LR can, but better.
Excuses, excuses… listen, me and my buddies would sit on the tractor, aiming freehand from the shoulder- and we’d shoot the tips off Crayola crayons we dug standing upright in the dirt at 743yds (uh, yeah, with irons; duh… what you think you’re better because you can afford an Eotech 512?)… and if you’re wondering why it’s so specific, obviously not only did we laser range it, but one time we bought all the tailors’ tape measures from the Walmart in the next town over, and spliced them together and got a hard read on it. It got to where we were so bored with it, just to make it a challenge we’d do it thunderstorm weather- during a tornado warning. And we’re not talking .22 LR… we’re talking .177 pellets from Crosman pumps. So, ya know… ya get no sympathy for a little breeze. It’s getting to be that kids today can’t shoot worth a shit, looks like. 🙄
If the AFT can declare a piece of plastic not related to the trigger a machine gun, then they can also break the laws of physics to declare an air gun a "firearm"
Well Canada considers anything over 500 fps a firearm and you need your un restricted fire arms license... Its so atupid, i wanted to biy the sig mcx pellet gun its advertised as 480 fps on their website but canada decided to i guess take the highest fps one of them made which was 540 fps so nope.. Cant own it.. Im going to gwt both my restricted and un restricted, and also gunamithing licnesce so i can own more guns than most people lol
BTW, The oldest existing mechanical air gun, dates back to about 1580, and is in the Livrustkammaren Museum in Stockholm. This is approximately when most historians recognize as the beginning of the modern air gun. Thats 224 years before Lewis and Clark.
Fun history fact: Lewis and Clark took an air rifle for hunting on their expedition, and saved the gunpowder they took for demonstrating muskets to Native American tribes they encountered along the way as a way of sparking trade with the government. The Smithsonian has the air rifle they took, and Robert Beeman of Beeman Air Rifles made a reproduction using experimental archaeology to see how powerful it would have been new. Collaborating with other historians working on reproductions of other period air rifles, Dr. Beeman determined that the rifle Lewis and Clark had would have been on par with modern .38 Special in terms of terminal ballistics. Anyone wanting to read the actual article Dr. Beeman wrote should web search 'Beeman Girandoni reproduction.'
I think the air rifle they took needed like 800+ "pumps" to be at capacity and the dudes would do it in shifts. For only a few shots, too. Sounds like a nightmare
For anyone who is curious this is real and not an elaborate troll to trick you into searching for something disgusting. This guy’s search is 100% safe and fascinating. I also learned that their expedition was nicknamed the “lemon party”. Google that too to learn more.
It's pretty funny, here in the Netherlands you need more paperwork than the Apollo program to get a 9mm. But a .50 cal air rifle is completely free to have above age 18, even though it packs quite a few joules more
I do a lot of rimfire shooting in high winds (prairies of central Canada), both .22 and .17HMR, so I'm pretty familiar with the conditions in this video, shooting lightweight low velocity projectiles - all I can say is holy hell, that group in those winds is INSANE. Then the course of fire near the end of the video, making one shot hits at those windspeeds and with changing direction that was obvious in the vid....wow, that rifle/system is an incredible performer. I have some Olympic style/quality air pistols, but have no experience with air rifles such as this. That's going to be changing, now. Currently trying to find a dealer in Canada for this rifle/company, and if not, I'll just purchase one next time I'm at my US property. Impressive, not often I'm sold on something I just see online. -EDIT Found a Canadian distributor/dealer, it's on FX's website, easy peasy.
Check out the Panthera and the Impact. I have both, (in .22 caliber, 700mm barrel) different airguns for different applications - they are great shooters!
@@mightyjoeyoung1390 yup, the airgun in the video is the Panthera. I use mine (with an extra front mounted bottle) as a dedicated bench rifle. Didn't know the commenter's intrests so I suggested checking out the Impact as it's an excellent all around target, pesting, plinking, hunting airgun. Cheers!
A very big part of this is Matt Dubber. He personally spent countless hours on slug technology. Fredrik Axelsson said Matt was the reason behind this advancement in slugs. Matt Dubber deserves to be mentioned here. 🎯👍
Reminder that Girardoni airguns were actually the high-end DM rifles of the late 18th century, with some attributes of an AR. I mean it sucked by modern standards, and you essentially had to be a specialized mobile gunsmith in addition to a rifleman if you wanted to actually keep it running. But when they worked, they literally had about as much firepower as a modern magazine-fed manual action 22, which for a shoulder rifle in 1800 is almost incomprehensible.
They also saw extremely limited use in war (Prussians). Unfortunately, the technology wasn't dependable enough with manufacturing limitations & high cost for widespread use.
@@FoxtrotFleet That seems extremely doubtful. Soldiers come up with all kinds of insane local house rules about what weapons are allowed because they're in the shit and trying to survive. In a Napoleonic context, you would have said it's Napoleon's order. Today it still shows up in a weird form in the half-truth that says some lawyer somewhere will prosecute you for war crimes if you use a .50 on a guy. It's just an echo of the fact that people who don't have .50s to use on guys would like to pretend it's an atrocity when the other team has them.
@@toshironif Yeah it made no sense because if you needed that much cost and specialized guild knowledge (maintainers, trainers etc) to operate it, it could just be an artillery piece. There were very few legitimate situations where it actually made sense to take it. In all honesty its best possible use probably would have been as a gift for savage tribal leaders, as long as you were able to make it clear to them privately that it was useless and just a totem for overawing people with occasional staged demonstrations.
I have a Seneca Dragon Claw, and this very much gets close to on par with some guns. A 50 cal pellet (210-550 grain) at 230-240 fpe. That's well enough power to leave a giant exit wound, as its been shown in ballistics tests as very effective
Those things are very easy to give a power tune. Look online if your interested. The easiest tunes can be done at home without a mill or lathe. You can get way more power out of those platforms. 1 thing to remind is, if you give it a power tune, its smart to exchange the sliding loading gate thingy with a custom machines thicker walled one. Here in the Netherlands we know of some incidents with power tuned Sam Yang's (your Seneca is build by Sam Yang in Korea) on which the loading sliding thingy exploded. Yes we have big bores in the Netherlands, we are not restricted to caliber or energy, only rule, an airgun cannot be a direct lookalike of any firearm. The Shin Sungs from the 90s 00s didnt have fragmenting sliding loading thingys. Sam Yang copied the Shin Sungs, but on the other hand Shin Sungs kinda copied the Yewha Dynamite airgun the Moonie cult invented. Information overload😂 Edit, exchanging hanmer and valve spring can give you the power level you already have but a more economical air consumption/less hanmer bounce= more shots per fill and a way lighter trigger.
@@itsadoggydogworld8974 2 different worlds. "Classic feel and look" like the Koreans and "black rifle" feel and look like the texan and many more these days. For the average guy, lets say a homesteader or farmer, the Seneca/sam yang/eun jinn is plenty of sufficient, cheaper and has iron sigths. Nowhere near a Airforce texan, but plenty for lots of uses. In the USA same farmer would easily replace it with a way cheaper .22rf. In many other countries said farmer if happy with an expensive airgun. Lets say Brazil, were .25 Sam Yang Sumatras are considered the holy grail to those who wont break the law and buy a homemade bike shock pipe shotgun.
The first “real” guns I got to shoot as a child were airguns in Norway… we visited my Mama’s aunt’s house, and her son had some pump air guns. My mother was an anti-gun absolutist- not even toy guns. Which of course sent me straight to a Woolworth’s on my 18th birthday to buy a pistol grip Mossberg 500 pump ($218 out the door…). It looked like the coolest! 😆
I find it hilarious when moms refuse to give their sons the toy guns they want and the kid just picks up a gun shaped stick and uses that. You can't stop a boy from being a boy and most little boys are obsessed with weapons of every kind.
@@grahamtotte7133 There was an interesting interview with parents here in switzerland, where the general consensus was that they think taking toyguns away from kids is stupid, we simply need to teach them that real guns are NOT like their toys and shouldnt be treated like them. So that was very based of my countrymen.
Airgun featured here is an FX airgun, made in Sweden. They are known for their advanced rifle/barrel design, air pressure regulation, ammunition and most of all their accuracy.
*I have an AMERICAN AIR .457 magnum shooting 680 grain slugs and I go Elk and Bore hunting with it. 100% Deadly at 275 yds. / 1000 feet per second with a silencer on it is very silent and holds a 2" group 300 yards. More power than a .45 ACP. not bad for an air rifle.*
A lot of people here in California are buying these air powered rifles and like they said you can learn the fundamentals of marksmanship with these and you dont need a range or even be out of city limits to shoot em... I love all this
If you don't get caught 😂. Even I texas legally you need 10 acres of land between you and your neighbors to shoot air rifles on your own land. We even allow hunts with them now the 357 calibers and 45 is allowed for hog hunts.
I have real bad news for you, but every city and county in California I know of or worked in, had laws restricting air gun use. There were also other agencies such as park districts etc that had rules. If you live in a small city far from everyone, it might be legal. But check very carefully.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx oh I know about the laws but just saying if you are not stupid about it most people wouldn't even know you were plinking some targets. I mean if you dont have any room between you and the neighbor then dont be shooting but if you have some space you can pop some rounds.
Awesome! I've been an air gunner for the last 10 years and let me tell you, the precision is unbelievable but so is the price for a piece of kit like this. You're looking at 3k+ on this setup! Also air guns are available in calibers to take bear with... no joke.
@@hstone-kf7su The ATF can make you poor too if you want to buy a suppressor, a machine gun, a drop-in auto sear, « pistols ». Civil rights, yes, it exists but only for the (very, like, VERY) rich people who can afford the taxes, the several months of delay after filling up forms (in which they can reply « no, bugger off lol »). We saw that in USSR’s administrative imbroglio and ironically now in your favorite liberal and capitalist regime. If I had to pay outrageous taxes and ask permission to exercise my rights on top of being successful in life everytime, then how many people can enjoy freedom in the end? Not the majority, it becomes more and more a niche or elite thing, which is the definition of a privilege, not a democratic thing.
Years ago i was on the airgun craze.. while fun they are crazy expensive, the price points for them are typically higher than quality rimfires and maintaining them is very time consuming. 2 of the 3 i still currently have leak. constantly trying to find leaks and lubricate o-rings become an annoyance especially with how intricate they can be.. useful, quiet, and cheaper on a per shot basis. but I’ve stop investing in air rifles because rimfire is just more user friendly
I got a rock island bolt .22 because it was threaded. 130 bucks. Put a $50 scope on it, and a $500 griffen (+$200 stamp) suppressor. Cci segmented sub sonic bullets. Super quiet, no hassle. I can't imagine paying more for an air gun. No matter how good it is.
@@yep-sb4uf my FX Bobcat cost me around $2300. not including scope and pump for refilling. it’s an incredible rifle, stacks .22 pellets in the same hole at 50 yards. but it’s been to FX for leak repairs once and a month after it started to leak again. It’s still shoots great but won’t hold air for more than 24 hours. i pump it up before i go out for squirrel. that’s about all the use it gets now. i’d like to add that was almost 10 years ago when i bought it. and i can tell you i haven’t shot enough pellets to recoup that cost, and i’ve shot ALOT.
@@Ezerhoden950 Have you tried a condor SS for the same type of shooting? You'll need to remote it but you'll get about double the fpe at the cost of having to single load. I've been running Airforce airguns for a while now and they've been much more reliable from my experience. No leaks or issues even with the big bores. That said, they're much simpler designs than the fx rigs but I've been getting solid results from them and the price of the guns are more reasonable as well. Single load tray is a bit of a pity but I simply haven't had the issues other airgunners running magazines have had... Again, it's a tube, not much to go wrong. I used to think that them not putting a regulator directly on their guns was terrible but after seeing the problems others have had with inline regulator leakage, having my regulator on my remote line might actually have been the right call. Also having the entire tank be at regulated pressure rather than just trying to force it via valve has given me obvious consistency at full air flow which is a plus. Something worth looking at. All SS and LSS model Airforce airguns can take donnyFL moderators as a simple screw on to dramatically decrease sound levels
@@CtrlAltRetreat i’ve considered one years ago, but ended up getting the Benjamin Bulldog at a way discounted price. i don’t want to say it. but my bulldog is the only one that doesn’t leak. haha. at this point in time i don’t have a reason to even consider a new air rifle. having a .22,.25,.35 model i can make do with them.
@@Ezerhoden950 Nice, while they won't match up to the accuracy of your fxs, they're designed for real use by regular folk and from what I've seen generally hold up to it with the exception of that bolt handle. A good bulldog is an excellent platform. They're engineered with a certain amount of leeway in mind which makes them much more robust than you'd think and you get .357 in a magazine for both solid energy and repeat capability. Have you looked into pitbull airguns work? I've been highly impressed with their work from the guys that have had their mega moderators and extended plus pressure regulated tanks. Good stuff
That is a really high end rifle. With an OK scope you're looling at around 2000-2500$ with all the gear you need. If you dont go so high end you can get into good PCP airguns at 1000-1500$ with all the gear. There are more the on way to charge it, but the easyest is to have a separate diving tank that can fill this guns a lot of times. Its inexpensive to charge at any diving center or firemen station. Or you can get a home compressor, but the good ones are expensive.
There are even some larger caliber air guns that are meant to hunt larger game. Winchester has a .45 airgun that can take down deer. BB guns aren't just little trainers for kids to shoot cans with, they can get very serious.
There are models that can be used with bolts as well, they are classified as bows in some regions. They have been used effectively on dangerous game such as cape buffalo.
Used to have a.177 pump air rifle. Took it apart put a piece of inner tube in the bleed off valve so it couldn't bleed off. It could put a bb right through a car door into the interior. Awesome.
If you had a way to fill gas canister at home manually; really a great bug out gun for survival hunting. You could have thousands of inexpensive bullets with infinite recharging.
I use to be a compressor service tech and worked on some crazy high pressure systems. I wonder if those guys will let me just come over and fill up some tanks? 😂
You can accomplish essentially the same thing with a .22lr. The ammo is a little heavier but the rifle can be much smaller and lighter. As well as much less complicated.
We are not lucky, not by any means, our forefathers fought for these rights and established these in our constitution. You are more than welcome to come here and become a citizen and gain these same rights if you’d like 👍
We use .22 and .17 for pest control (rats, Pidgeon, squirrel,rabbit and corvids) but also use FAC air rifles specifically in barns and outbuilding that use asbestos sheeting as cladding also useful for urban areas where residents tend to be rather sensitive about fluffy things and noise. Air rifle have their place, my favorite go to is an old tuned Daystate pcp rentokill rifle that never fails, whisper quiet, extremely accurate and effective. Underrated tool for light pest control.
@@Sora2529 She has been gone for a few years now, and an elderly cat free couple lives there. We still have a couple of cats wandering the neighborhood, but not the plague of cats that we had.
Training is a force multiplier. You can only run one gun at a time, but training can easily quadruple your effectiveness with it. And you can pass that training and know-how along to any number of other folk, for free, at any time, and provide a force multiplier for them as well. Good for you dude. Good headspace.
Some time ago, Polenar Tactical examined Texan AirArms .50 rifles and they punched a hole trough a frying pan with it. Granted, it was aluminium frying pan, but still. Both FX and Texan AA are excellent and pricey air rifles.
@@thejason755 1500 to 2000 USD pricey. For an American, not much, but for a wage slave in Serbia it is a LOT. I have gone back to that video which Polenar did and I have to apologize - it was indeed an AirArms Texan rifle, but in .45 caliber. They did some fun tests and found out that the .45 slug from air rifle has energy at the muzzle comparable to a 9mm parabellum round out of a pistol, but it doesn't have its penetration due to much lower speed of the round.
The Girardoni air rifle was in service with the Austrian army from 1780 to around 1815. Effective range of 125 Yards with 30 Rounds Air capasity, Either .46 or a .51 with around 500 fps
My favorite large bore Airgun is the Zalinski airguns used on the U.S.S. Vesuvius (1888) that had 15 inch bores and launched dynamite filled projectiles.
I go target shooting with my dad with these things. We have air rifles from .22 to .457. We can shoot a lot more rounds on the range than everyone else, since we're not worried about the cost of ammo.
@@hansgruber9685 for the 30 cals, that's as much for a tin of 150 pellets. For .457 its $20 for 50 200 grain slugs. You could reform lead into these pellets though, as thats what most airgun ammo is. FX pellets carry a price premium. So I think they were going for that number.
I've been into PCP for a few years. Love it. ZERO regrets. I'd never use one for defensive purposes or even a bug out hunting gun. Far too finicky. If I'm going with air for survival it's a break barrel.
Interesting. I have a hatsan mod130s break-barrel, but I think I'd prefer a PCP with a handpump [for air survival]. Break barrels have crazy heavy break-weight [mine is about 45 lbs] and low velocity [590fps I think, using ~47gr.]
I'm so glad you guys were able to put this together and show what modern airguns are capable of. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but most States allow some type of hunting for non-game, all the way up to big game. Any animal/bird that you can hunt with a firearm in the State of Idaho, you can hunt with an airgun. In Idaho there are caliber requirements for medium and big game, as well as lead-free and caliber requirements for waterfowl, but they are easy to follow and gives you one more way to hunt in this great State!
@@twilightzone39 - We can use single projectiles shot out of airguns as well. They must be .20 caliber or smaller and the projectile must be lead-free. This falls within the guidelines of the USFW laws.
@@ricksmith7232 - Idaho does not allow you to hunt upland game birds with a firearm (other than Forest Grouse). They also open up a lot of new opportunities for access on private land, where firearms, including rimfires and shotguns, would not be a viable solution. For example, I have permission to shoot Pigeons and Starlings inside barns on a large Dairy here in SW Idaho. Shotguns, or other firearms are strictly prohibited. Of course, there is also the fun/challenge factor as well. I believe anything that expands our hunting opportunities is a good thing. So this is just one more option available to all of us.
That is one beautiful air rifle. I was surprised how deep the ball penetrated the gelatin. So quiet, it didn't seem capable of much. A good thing about airgun, they make you study precision fundamentals.
I haven’t picked up my .22lr since buying an fx. I do think the .22 lr drops less, bucks the wind better and holds more energy behind it. The airgun works wonders on ground squirrels. There are other models that cater more towards a hunting platform. More shots per fill, larger magazine ect.
The possibilities of tuning and modifying them is so much better than on traditional ones. I mean just being able to tune the velocities at a mach site within 10 minutes is a game changer! So much fun!
I’ve been following FX air guns for a long time, Matt duber is fantastic and helps develop them. Also has been developing some fantastic slug air guns that are incredibly accurate glad they’re getting more attention
I've seen these new type of .22 pellets that look like a reverse hollow point, almost as if they were armor piercing 5.56 ammo with the penetrator cores removed
so expensive though man. I was gonna go with a wildcat for hunting here in the uk but its just so much money. a 22 with subsonic rounds is just the most sensible option. plus im not a tinkerer and airguns require a lot of messing around with
Ironically in Canada these are classified as an firearm, but we can get all our firearms delivered to us from online purchases via the regular mail if you have a firearm license... no need for FBI background checks or going to a FFL dealer
I use my Texan SS .457 for deer and bear hunting. I find them to do very well for penetrating's shots (Sort of like a arrow). They work really well, although they very easily over penetrate (watch what's behind your target as it will also be hit). I feel like this air rifle though (in the video) is still mid-low-range (regarding power). Also that stock tank is really small. I use a 4500psi carbon fiber tank on mine.
@@Astraeus.. They are not single shot, also its black bear. Mine is bolt action, I get 5-6 good high powered shots. They are super accurate though... so range and good shot placement is key. I also have a tank and a regulator to a larger separate tank that can refill or give me +100 shots if I keep it connected with a regulator.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 yeah. Ted's HoldOver is one of those channels. He does pest control for farmers and whoever else needs his skills. Dude is amazing. I have some cheap springers that are pretty dang accurate. I would love a good PCP. I just can't justify the cost right now. But, they are pretty awesome.
Last year I took a gopher down from 127 yards and was so stoked about it! I can just imagine how difficult it can be at further distances. I got it on film too and holy moly what hunting ammo will do in slow motion.
Got a 45. cal air rifle, the Texan LSS. You can hunt Boars with here in Europe, pretty effective and is extremely accurate up to 300 meters. More powerful than a 45. ACP
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In the UK these are considered ‘bazooka airguns’ and are punishable by up to 150 wags of the finger and 3 concurrent life sentences
is one wag from left to right, or left right left?
This is painful... We need to free our British cousins from tyranny...
Has to be licenced but we gave them. If they are over 12 ft/lbs, shame they gave to be licenced if they are over that.
@@jeremyk_541 they don't have any oil
@@rodsongreen5249 as your American Cousin. I hate yalls government for you the people. May the spirit of P.A. Ludy live on in the hearts of the few freedom loving Brits out there still
Holy moly! I thought that we wouldn't see high powered airguns on this channel but I am positively surprised! Owning one and doing competitions on a small scale has definately been super fun and I can recommend it to everyone. It is also a great tool for learning fundamentals on long range shooting and shooting in general.
I have had several ranch owners asking me to come and take care of their gopher problems and I have been happy to help them out. They have been super happy with the results and were amazed how quiet the thing is. It is also a great advantage on hunting because you can get follow up shot without them running back to their holes. Coyotes are also a thing you can hunt with them and there's nothing better than sending out 68grains of lead at 1000fps towards their way.
With the little tiny downside of being a ridiculously expensive hobby. Which is also why you literally never hear about air guns being used in shootings.
A medium range fx airgun costs about the same as a high end ar.
Oh and to get that consistent speed you absolutely need a regulator and most likely other mods to make it all work.
And if you think fire arm ammo is expensive just check out the .357 and .30 pellets/slugs.
@@whatsmolly5741 Well depends on what you buy and what your goals are. I started out first with a simple 300$ PCP that was a .22. Did my first gophers with that after I modified it a little. Plenty of power in that one too for small game as a stock version if you wish not to modify it.
I filled out my tank in the scuba diving place for 10$ a pop and you could shoot little over a thousand rounds with the fills provided from the tank.
But yeah all depends on what your looking for.
@Montana_AirGunner the effect goes up drastically as you go up in caliber, my 357 Benjamin bulldog drops like 12 inches accross 10 shots at 30 yards without a regulator and to get the regulator you need a tank that handles 5000 psi
@@MontanaAirGunner and the best ammo for it is like 1.5 $ per slug
I got into these back in 2011, and have multiple FX and Daystate airguns. It’s great to see the growth in the PCP airgun world 👍👊🇺🇸🤘
Air guns taught me how to arc it at a young age. A valuable piece of the puzzle to master and a great way to teach your kids the basics. Thanks for the quality content once again Mike.
Airguns in the UK are restricted to 12ft/lbs for .22 which is roughly a muzzle velocity of about 570fps. if you hold the rife in a certain way and in the right light (assuming you have reasonable eyesight) you can see the pellet arc.
@@MrAvant123 Wow, are slingshots outlawed there as well?
@@MrAvant123 fUK
RIP to the air gun rep guy who got shot in a hotel because of a retarded cop who still got his pension, nevermind getting jailed for life or executed like he executed the guy.
Not banned in the UK (yet) but in Germany any slingshot with a wrist brace is banned.
1952 Crosman 101 tuned up pushes 800fps plus with 10 pumps and is rifled. Most versatile US invention imo. BSA has great early air rifles as well.
I almost expected Ted's Holdover to be presenting. That would be the crossover of the year for sure. Also: props to the sound engineer for dealing with the extreme wind. A+ seriously.
He has a video of the new FX Panthera concept
For those just looking into the FX Impact line of air rifles, I would strongly suggest looking at a model that offers their barrel harmonic controller. You could have dialed in an even tighter group as you shot it. Sub MOA groups at 100 are the norm with an Impact, add the harmonic barrel tuner and it's a nail driver at 100.
For all calibers of ammo offered? Or just the .22 equivalent?
@@ricksmith7232 for all
the harmonic balancer is old tech. get a carbon fiber barrel tensioner kit, dial in your power properly, it drives tacks. the new carbon fiber tensioner kit does a much better job taming the pulse wave than the clunky harmonic balancer piece.
I shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yards with my Hatsan.
@@marcoslaureano5562 which kind of Hatsan?
Got a 45. cal air rifle, the Texan LSS. You can hunt Boars with here in Europe, pretty effective and is extremely accurate up to 300 meters. More powerful than a 45. ACP
I hear that big bore pcps are regulated in most European countries. What are the laws like around where you're at?
How are you liking the LSS? I have the SS and I could not imagine the extra 10? inches in length. I use a back strap with mine and it just barley is short enough to not hit the ground. You are also using the carbon fiber tank right?
@@CtrlAltRetreat ... i don't really know, but honestly don't care about them either
@@EC-dz4bq Yeah mine is quite massive, I also added a big ass silencer to the gun. At times having trouble moving around the house with it lol... I usually just hold it in my hands or tie it to my backpack. And yeah I'm using the carbon fiber tank
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Get a sling and a remote tank mate. Which additional moderator did you go with? I highly recommend the donnyFL emperor. Good luck out there and hopefully you guys get your own 2a too
Glad that you took a look at the FX Airgun Gerand. I have three FX Impacts in .22 Caliber, .30 Caliber and .357 Caliber. My biggest airgun is the Airforce Texan .457 Caliber, and I shoot a 350 grain slug in competition at the Rocky Mountain Airgun Challenge ( RMAC ) in Utah. I shoot all of the other FX Impacts in 100 yard benchrest competitions, 50 yard benchrest competitions, PRS Competitions, speed challenge, and I have other airguns that I shoot in Hunter Field Target Competitions. You shot the FX Panthera awesome for the first time shooting it. 300 yards, first time shooting is impressive. I have shot all of my FX Impact .22 caliber with ZAN Slugs and the .357 Caliber with NSA Slugs, both out to 350 yards on steel. All three of my slug shooters can hit the 3" circle at 300 yards at the range in Indiana that I shoot long distances in. The airgun that Louis & Clark had in their journey was the Girardoni Airgun that Napolean wanted banned in war. It was a .46 caliber round ball. The air reservoir was filled to 800 PSI and was good for about 80 full power shots. The airgun was a 20-round repeater in a tubular feed magazine. If you can find one, and want to add it to any collection, it would be more than worth picking up. Thanks for the awesome video.
And how much were these, cuz they seem to be expensive af
@@Reaperherpderp they are expensive. No different than a high end competition firearm would be. There are economic airguns available also that are accurate as well. A high end airgun will cost close to 2k and up. I have several as so do many of my fellow Airgunners, but we all compete and have a blast every weekend, and I also compete at the international competitions as well, and so do some of them as well. You can compete with these FX Impacts and FX Panthera Airguns right alongside the Vodoo’s, CZ’s, Christian Arms, in PRS, NRL22, matches and NL50 matches. It all depends on what you want to get involved in. There are members at my local gun club that shoot shotguns that cost tens of thousand dollars.
@@airguns_rc I mean i was interested but i can build decked out AR's for 2k.
These seem very cool and would be fun to have and much more convenient for shooting recreationally but i dont think i can personally justify spending this much for a similar set up like in the video
@@Reaperherpderp completely understand. If you want an airgun to hang with the competition 22 LR’s of the world for example. You will end up spending that much.
Keep in mind the cost of high pressure air pumps and tanks for these captive air rifles. Quality 3000 psi pumps are rather dear, the need for good dry air has led many to choose nitrogen bottles instead. Still not inexpensive as an overall system.
I shoot .45, .30, .25, .22, and .177 air rifles. It's a lot of fun, but not a cheap hobby. I first fell in love with the quality of manufacturing by Dennis Quackenbush in Missouri back in the 1980's long before the new guys took up big bore.
I have been shooting for a long time and what I have found is using airguns have greatly improved my ability to shoot better for many reasons. I think being able to practice without recoil and loud sounds and the fact I can practice in my basement and get a lot of trigger time are key to becoming a better shot.
Not to mention you can practice bullet drop compensation in your backyard
In the old Beeman's catalog, one of the benefits of using an airgun in firearms training was maintaining a steady hold throughout the shooting cycle. The normal action just after letting a round fly is to relax a bit. It's almost instinctive, but it can happen even before the round leaves the barrel. The airgun fires at a lower velocity so the pellet is in barrel longer and any relaxing immediately after the squeeze becomes evident by dropped groups.
@@lllhunterlll9644 Fascinating. That sounds super helpful.
As a proud owner of a few of these PCP rifles and someone who served 21 years active duty army and fired plenty of weapons, these things are a blast! I have some spendy ones but honestly my favorite to just dick around with is my cheaper Benjamin Bulldog .357 cal, it’s a heavy chunk of lead that will go through 3 pressure treated 2x4s at a quarter the price per round lol
I had a Bulldog and the thing was a powerhouse. You could hunt anything at range.
@@fullmoonprepping4024 100%, I think bang for the buck it’s still one of the best out there though prices are shooting up quick lol. You ever have any issues with yours? Mines been flawless, my more expensive have issues here and there, nothing serious but that damn bulldog is like clockwork. I bought it the year I retired from the army Jan 2019, got the Megamoderator, extra mags and the depinger, haven’t had one damn issue ❤️
I want that one first I think
@@beantea5592 can’t go wrong with it in my opinion, the couple guys I know that also own them seem to feel the same way, a good workhorse
Recently Joerg of the slingshot channel showed a .75 air rifle that seemed to be the obnoxious distant cousin of this. Instead of being quiet with no recoil it was pretty loud and showed Joerg about some even though he's a pretty solid dude. It would be interesting to see just how far these air rifles can be pushed, and in case of the .75 caliber just how much air it uses per shot. When Joerg tested it was tethered by a pneumatic hose to either a huge tank or a compressor, so I'm thinking a more normal tank suitable to be mounted on the rifle won't allow for all that many shots before it's depleted...
Probably the aea zues, it reaches 1500 fpe so legitimately hits harder than 5.56
Personally not a fan of the company because of my experience with their semi auto terminator and absolute lack of any customer service when I asked them why my plastic valve pin keeps breaking every few hundred shots and if they plan to do anything about it or if they expect me to purchase a mass stock of these things for 20$ each.
Also straight up told me these 40$ mags they sold me they actually knew they didn't work and their only solution was for me to buy their new cnc mags for 60$.
I mean a semi auto airgun pushing 150 fpe is absolutely amazing but I really wish they didn't just brush off the massive amount of customer complaints and blame everyone except themselves.
Air rifles are where it's at. I used to shoot cans off a tractor 500 yards away with an air rifle with iron sights. 😅
youre not getting on the show
@@coryb6722 🤣🤣🤣
Been into air rifles since i was a kid now into the pcp air rifles , ive got 6 of them now my go to is usually my AEA hp varmint .25 , super accurate 1" groups at 100yards, perfect for woodchucks, opossums, raccoons, with .25 30 grain hollow point slugs its a beast
Next video Garand Thumb is going to be lurking in some abandoned metro tunnels
I slayed many birds as a kid with my Daisy .177 Cal BB/Pellet rifle. Gophers and small game animals are possible to harvest as well. Whistle pigs, ground squirrels, prairie dogs were always a hoot to shoot. Then I got a.22 rifle and then it was slay on and sometimes the bolt action.20 gauge and sometimes 12 gauge single shot. I could down 2 pheasants and or grouse with it. Speed loaded that bolt action and loved the practice I got with it.
EMMETT IDAHO, W Main St, across from Stoneys Road House. Great concert venue. Governor Little has a farm here in town. Cherry 🍒🌸 Blossom Festival is awesome and soon Saturday night is cruise night with all sorts of vehicles cruising Washington Ave. ATVs to low riders, and Classic to Fantastic Rat Rods! It's awesome. Gotta anything with wheels and a motor. Dune buggies, 4X4s, Low riders and cars with pneumatics. G'd up and top down, in the valley below Freeze Out Hill and past the Drag Race Track near Meridian. There's a range out near the fruit orchards. Gun club owned.
Awesome video and review of that wicked cool airgun! 👍🏼😍👍🏼👣🦅🪶
PCP guns are so much fun, back in 2010 i shot a 10 shot group at 100m covering only 41mm CC with my 22. AA x-fac 410 and jumbo exact pellets
pellet gun companies finally catching up to u.k. manufacturers of wdp angel paintball markers
.22 is too ubiquitous. You couldn't get rid of it if you tried :)
Air rifles are great and fun to shoot, but they'll never replace any firearm for most applications. Not only do they require extra gear to work (air pumps mostly, and unless you're interested in some hard workout, using hand pumps is not fun) but just the fact the propellant is stored in a pressurized bottle makes them unfeasible for anything other than hunting and target shooting. They're also rather fragile because its essentialy a row of tiny pressure valves and seals with rubber and stuff to seal them, which will fail over time.
Also, I wouldn't hunt anything specially dangerous with them unless I have a firearm as a backup.
I think it poses an interesting question. With the technology available to us, why not pursue more novel firearm or uh, projectile device design? Not everything needs to be the most perfectly ruggedized zero-fail design for life or death situations. Electronic trigger controls has been proven in paintball and airsoft, valves and o-rings as well. There's no reason firearms used for competition or as range toys need to remain completely analog in function.
Good debate fellas 👍
There's a dude in the world of 3d printed guns who's been developing an electric ignition design for his printed firearms and ammunition (doing away with the primer)
I think if you want to see crazy innovation in gun tech - that's definately something to keep your eye on - though it's admittedly still in its infancy.
I've never had the problems people complain about. Especially leaks
@@liberatumplox625 Shinzo Abe got got with an electrical ignition homemade "shotgun".
Looking at your newer videos versus your older videos, you look SO much more professional without all those tattoos on your arms.
Constant Acceleration Pneumatics has a patented technology that enables a 22 caliber air rifle to reach 170 FPE which is significantly more than the average 22 LR at ~135 FPE. We have proven our technology's capabilities in the Air Arms S510 22 cal and in the 22 Cal Seneca Eagle Claw
GT: Rides on up a mini bike.
Me: *Thumbs up*
Air is free, but an appropriate device to properly compress and push that air is not. Keeping air on hand is always a concern for airgunners..
The fact that he knew it was “the mines of Moria” is why this guy is the best
This as a rifle or pistol would be cool to see tested in the home defense scenario, like the dry wall penetration test and so on.
I have it on good authority that the projectile fired from this penetrates 16 layers of drywall and has an effective kill range of 600m. Also, this rifle will get you totally laid.
There are better airguns than this for home defense especially where states restricts civilian gun ownership, the Benjamin bulldog in .357 cal comes to mind being a large cal air rifle with a 5 shot magazine.
If the SHTF (Shit Hits The Fan) these and compound bows will become the preferred method of procuring game for food. You won't want everyone in a 2.5 mile radius knowing that someone just procured a meal, like it would be with a firearm. These can take small game efficiently, effectively and stealthily. Don't underestimate the potential survival value of a high quality air rifle. Good video, I gave it a Thumb Up!
I own many of these including the brand shown here. I have an FX Impact m3 30 caliber and everything up to a 50 caliber that puts out 700 foot pounds.
These are far from our childhood bb guns. They are 5 times or more the cost of a firearm. They're super cool and you could shoot one of these in your backyard as long as you had a very thick bsckstop and no one would be the wiser.
I am a HUGE FAN...suggestion...PLEASE drop the music bed while you are speaking and/or during an interview.....I BEG YOU!! Great stuff!!!!!
Awesome fun excellent video thanks Mike and Micah
Considering that thing has basically no recoil, I would have liked to see you guys do some shots just supported by your hand. No resting on the dirtbike or ground or whatever that other panel was. That would have been an interesting test!
Stability support is just that. Recoil happens after the shot is made, so if you're a proficient shooter, accuracy shouldn't change much, if any, while shooting off hand unsupported recoil or not.
Brilliant
A video with the 357 9mm rattler
300 YARDS 1,500 feet! That is insane and you are insanely good. I fear for whistle pigs
Take a look at this gun man! FX-05 Xiuhcoatl. Used by Mexican special forces.
being from the UK i grew up with airguns. started on the shitty springers. then graduated to pre charged/compressed air type rifles. finally I have acquired enough shooting land to apply for a 22lr. I cannot get away from airguns fast enough, the expense, fucking diving bottle you have to lug around then fill at a special shop it all does my head in. The tunability is just a gimmick for me, i want something to shoot quick, simple and easy. cannot be arsed to sit googling what reg pressure to set at, and sifting through 10's of different kinds of slugs man who has the time. My man really said 13 shots per fill. that is ghastly
Not the Whistle Pigs!!! I didn’t even know that was a ground hog to be honest 🤣.
Mr. Hollowpoint should have been invited with his nitro express...
Not for nothing, but you can get .50, even .72 call airguns with over 800 FPE. Seen them go through four cast iron pans and crack a fifth, and a guy hitting a two litre bottle from over a mile away with enough energy to pass through it almost without disturbing the water in it. So modern PCP (pre-charged pneumatic) rifles are no joke.
Looks like Donut, Hereira and Thumb are on the same JUICE.
I think those air rifles have a lot of utility, that you can hunt small game with them does make this a competitor with the 22. I do have an air rifle, but it's just a .177 break barrel so not the kind of power this has. But I could take down game the size of a racoon with it, which says a lot.
Would've been nice to know how far the first target was and the one with the ballistic gel. Thanks.
In Australia they are classed as a firearm and have to be registed and you have top have a firearms licence.
looks interesting, but got dissapointed at 04:20 where they talk of '3fps' as the extreme spread, and how this is better than a rimfire, but don't point out the actual muzzle velocity.... unless the velocities are equal, comparing the spread is irrelevant.
We use to have bb gun wars with my brother and 2 other friends in the junkyard of my hometoen frankfort indiana. Numerous hospital visits and alot of ass whoopins 😂😂
Love the FX Air guns but for the price I will just stick to my 22cal and that’s the part people are forgetting about.I’m a working man I I just can’t fathom spending that much on air gun when it’s being compared to a real gun.
you said it grouped about an inch. That's freaking amazing at 100 yards it's less so at 100 feet. Could you let us know what distance that was shot at please?
In essence, aren't all cartridge's fire rifles "Air" rifles, I mean the projectile doesn't have a propellent, its air pressure pushing it out the barrel.
its not air pushing it out its the expanding gas from the burning powder
@@jedinutcracker so you are saying "air" is not a gas? I think most science teachers would question that stance.
@@th-bc3hn air is a gas but not all gasses are air
with the ridiculous price of .22 lr ammunition air-guns are becoming a close second. With the ridiculous price for a complete PCP air-gun setup and their delicate construction they will never replace the .22 lr for the average target shooter or small game hunter.
However Ozzy Osborn is an avid PCP air-gunner which makes them more acceptable in Beverly Hills, California. : )
in NYC you have to submit a video of you drinking a gallon of NY tap water to the mayor to obtain a license for this
Very intricate parts, some of which are directly exposed to elements. A 10/22 has been proven to be able to take a beating and carry on, but these have way too many delicate parts
Good video, but I don't understand why you added music...
In the UK they are most certainly not allowed, all part of the original plan, "First, take away their guns"!
i'd like some info on the burlap jacket and the pants please!
Need a gun license here in Australia and are classed as a 22LR and huge fines and jail if you have one without license, hell in some states even GEL Blasters are not legal.
The sad thing is you’d need a firearms licence for this in the UK.
Ive had a 1pump shotgun style air rifle that shoots .22 at 1300 fps for like 15 years. Ive never hit a bullseye with it. Not once. Good to see some actual performance from something with this power.
😂😂😂😂😂
That thing is not going to shoot 1300fps , maybe half that 😂😂😂😂
1pump at 1300fps LMAO
try 500 MAX
“If I was a better shot and had no wind” it would be a tighter group.
Can confirm, this is true.
Thank you, Mr Garand Thumb.
By that standard, I can shoot as well as he can too!
Yeah, there's a lot of crumple zones in that statement lol
These things are a lot more accurate than rimfire. That's not up for debate at this point. There are pros and cons to both, but I'm really surprised people don't realise that a lot of airguns are more powerful than even 22WMR and getting well up into the larger handgun calibers in terms of muzzle energy with some, like the AEA Zeus ect, which can deliver around 1000 ft/lbs of energy.
The thing is, these are tunable to a degree no powder burner ever will be. And in the matches this particular airgun is designed for, it's actually got an unfair advantage. One thing they didn't mention in the video is the grain weights it's able to shoot, which can be heavier than 22LR, and the fact that modern airgun slugs have higher BCs than 22LR, and that it normally being subsonic isn't actually a disadvantage either because nobody uses supersonic 22LR in competitions for the exact same reason nobody shoots airguns supersonic, the projectile falls back through the sound barrier and destabilizes before it gets to the target. In short, this can do everything a competition 22LR can, but better.
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Carlos
Excuses, excuses… listen, me and my buddies would sit on the tractor, aiming freehand from the shoulder- and we’d shoot the tips off Crayola crayons we dug standing upright in the dirt at 743yds (uh, yeah, with irons; duh… what you think you’re better because you can afford an Eotech 512?)… and if you’re wondering why it’s so specific, obviously not only did we laser range it, but one time we bought all the tailors’ tape measures from the Walmart in the next town over, and spliced them together and got a hard read on it. It got to where we were so bored with it, just to make it a challenge we’d do it thunderstorm weather- during a tornado warning. And we’re not talking .22 LR… we’re talking .177 pellets from Crosman pumps. So, ya know… ya get no sympathy for a little breeze.
It’s getting to be that kids today can’t shoot worth a shit, looks like. 🙄
If the AFT can declare a piece of plastic not related to the trigger a machine gun, then they can also break the laws of physics to declare an air gun a "firearm"
Well Canada considers anything over 500 fps a firearm and you need your un restricted fire arms license... Its so atupid, i wanted to biy the sig mcx pellet gun its advertised as 480 fps on their website but canada decided to i guess take the highest fps one of them made which was 540 fps so nope.. Cant own it.. Im going to gwt both my restricted and un restricted, and also gunamithing licnesce so i can own more guns than most people lol
The Supreme Court (as it currently is) would never let that happen
Don’t put that evil on us FellICA!
I think New York has already done this
ATF rules are not laws.
BTW, The oldest existing mechanical air gun, dates back to about 1580, and is in the Livrustkammaren Museum in Stockholm. This is approximately when most historians recognize as the beginning of the modern air gun. Thats 224 years before Lewis and Clark.
Well, compressing air has been done for a long while to be fair. In fact, the first bellows are a method for compressing air.
Lewis and Clark took a few air guns with them on they’re expedition as well. Forgotten weapons did a video on one.
This is America. The old world is called old for a reason. We do not care!
Noted.. the airgun that went west traveled with Lewis and Clark. We appreciate those that came before.
@@jon-michaelsampson1120speak for yourself.
Fun history fact: Lewis and Clark took an air rifle for hunting on their expedition, and saved the gunpowder they took for demonstrating muskets to Native American tribes they encountered along the way as a way of sparking trade with the government. The Smithsonian has the air rifle they took, and Robert Beeman of Beeman Air Rifles made a reproduction using experimental archaeology to see how powerful it would have been new. Collaborating with other historians working on reproductions of other period air rifles, Dr. Beeman determined that the rifle Lewis and Clark had would have been on par with modern .38 Special in terms of terminal ballistics. Anyone wanting to read the actual article Dr. Beeman wrote should web search 'Beeman Girandoni reproduction.'
Garand Thumb made a reference to L&C in the intro
Holy shit I didn't know, that's crazy
I think the air rifle they took needed like 800+ "pumps" to be at capacity and the dudes would do it in shifts. For only a few shots, too. Sounds like a nightmare
For anyone who is curious this is real and not an elaborate troll to trick you into searching for something disgusting. This guy’s search is 100% safe and fascinating.
I also learned that their expedition was nicknamed the “lemon party”. Google that too to learn more.
@@CT-qz4tr A modern dual stroke airgun pump is good for 150-200 strokes which is why you can buy a 12v compressor
Smol bike big mike
Yeetus
Don't you bring the first lady into this!
@@aceman1126"lady"
@@VAMPZDJ lol oof sorry I forgot the quotation marks but yes you are correct "lady" is much more accurate
It's pretty funny, here in the Netherlands you need more paperwork than the Apollo program to get a 9mm.
But a .50 cal air rifle is completely free to have above age 18, even though it packs quite a few joules more
because you can not hide a .50 under your shirt in the pants ;-)
@@megundedaea makes several concealing 50 cal air pistol
I used to use airguns like this back in the UK before I moved here. Anything over 12 ft/lbs was a "felony" but we still turned them up anyway.
how do you tune them up? asking for a friend
Unfortunately the UK has some of the worst Firearms laws in the world. It's laughable
well unless you had FAC right?
@@ragingcomedy1835 try helium...
13ft/ lbs is laughable
I do a lot of rimfire shooting in high winds (prairies of central Canada), both .22 and .17HMR, so I'm pretty familiar with the conditions in this video, shooting lightweight low velocity projectiles - all I can say is holy hell, that group in those winds is INSANE. Then the course of fire near the end of the video, making one shot hits at those windspeeds and with changing direction that was obvious in the vid....wow, that rifle/system is an incredible performer. I have some Olympic style/quality air pistols, but have no experience with air rifles such as this. That's going to be changing, now. Currently trying to find a dealer in Canada for this rifle/company, and if not, I'll just purchase one next time I'm at my US property. Impressive, not often I'm sold on something I just see online. -EDIT Found a Canadian distributor/dealer, it's on FX's website, easy peasy.
Check out the Panthera and the Impact. I have both, (in .22 caliber, 700mm barrel) different airguns for different applications - they are great shooters!
@@hankvana2149 Pretty sure that IS the Panthera...
@@mightyjoeyoung1390 yup, the airgun in the video is the Panthera. I use mine (with an extra front mounted bottle) as a dedicated bench rifle. Didn't know the commenter's intrests so I suggested checking out the Impact as it's an excellent all around target, pesting, plinking, hunting airgun. Cheers!
You gotta hook a homie up in central Canada I would love a 22
@wagwon1297 Check out my other comment about Canada Shooting supplies if you're in canada. They have great stuff there
A very big part of this is Matt Dubber. He personally spent countless hours on slug technology.
Fredrik Axelsson said Matt was the reason behind this advancement in slugs.
Matt Dubber deserves to be mentioned here. 🎯👍
They make 7.62 air rifles that are crazy powerful. I'd love to see you guys check those ones out too!
I wouldn’t say crazy powerful, still 2-300 foot pounds of energy, even the 50 cal air gun doesn’t have crazy power at around 500 foot pounds
yes , I have one of those but mine is called ak 47 ab2
AEA Zues .72 Cal, 1500 fpe, it is a monster
They don't penetrate as well as .25 or .22 air rifles.
@@mistaajones That's not an "air gun", that's an "air musket"!
Reminder that Girardoni airguns were actually the high-end DM rifles of the late 18th century, with some attributes of an AR. I mean it sucked by modern standards, and you essentially had to be a specialized mobile gunsmith in addition to a rifleman if you wanted to actually keep it running. But when they worked, they literally had about as much firepower as a modern magazine-fed manual action 22, which for a shoulder rifle in 1800 is almost incomprehensible.
They also saw extremely limited use in war (Prussians). Unfortunately, the technology wasn't dependable enough with manufacturing limitations & high cost for widespread use.
Napoleon hated air rifles and had anyone captured using one executed. Bad for morale, silent shots.
@@FoxtrotFleet That seems extremely doubtful. Soldiers come up with all kinds of insane local house rules about what weapons are allowed because they're in the shit and trying to survive. In a Napoleonic context, you would have said it's Napoleon's order. Today it still shows up in a weird form in the half-truth that says some lawyer somewhere will prosecute you for war crimes if you use a .50 on a guy. It's just an echo of the fact that people who don't have .50s to use on guys would like to pretend it's an atrocity when the other team has them.
@@toshironif Yeah it made no sense because if you needed that much cost and specialized guild knowledge (maintainers, trainers etc) to operate it, it could just be an artillery piece. There were very few legitimate situations where it actually made sense to take it. In all honesty its best possible use probably would have been as a gift for savage tribal leaders, as long as you were able to make it clear to them privately that it was useless and just a totem for overawing people with occasional staged demonstrations.
@@tiivc What are you saying? That French troops did not execute people found with air rifles as recorded and that Napoleon did not ban them in France?
I have a Seneca Dragon Claw, and this very much gets close to on par with some guns. A 50 cal pellet (210-550 grain) at 230-240 fpe. That's well enough power to leave a giant exit wound, as its been shown in ballistics tests as very effective
Those things are very easy to give a power tune. Look online if your interested. The easiest tunes can be done at home without a mill or lathe. You can get way more power out of those platforms. 1 thing to remind is, if you give it a power tune, its smart to exchange the sliding loading gate thingy with a custom machines thicker walled one.
Here in the Netherlands we know of some incidents with power tuned Sam Yang's (your Seneca is build by Sam Yang in Korea) on which the loading sliding thingy exploded. Yes we have big bores in the Netherlands, we are not restricted to caliber or energy, only rule, an airgun cannot be a direct lookalike of any firearm.
The Shin Sungs from the 90s 00s didnt have fragmenting sliding loading thingys. Sam Yang copied the Shin Sungs, but on the other hand Shin Sungs kinda copied the Yewha Dynamite airgun the Moonie cult invented.
Information overload😂
Edit, exchanging hanmer and valve spring can give you the power level you already have but a more economical air consumption/less hanmer bounce= more shots per fill and a way lighter trigger.
Air Texan pushes a 300 grain at 850fps. Easily with the carbon fiber tank
@@itsadoggydogworld8974 2 different worlds. "Classic feel and look" like the Koreans and "black rifle" feel and look like the texan and many more these days. For the average guy, lets say a homesteader or farmer, the Seneca/sam yang/eun jinn is plenty of sufficient, cheaper and has iron sigths. Nowhere near a Airforce texan, but plenty for lots of uses. In the USA same farmer would easily replace it with a way cheaper .22rf. In many other countries said farmer if happy with an expensive airgun. Lets say Brazil, were .25 Sam Yang Sumatras are considered the holy grail to those who wont break the law and buy a homemade bike shock pipe shotgun.
The first “real” guns I got to shoot as a child were airguns in Norway… we visited my Mama’s aunt’s house, and her son had some pump air guns. My mother was an anti-gun absolutist- not even toy guns. Which of course sent me straight to a Woolworth’s on my 18th birthday to buy a pistol grip Mossberg 500 pump ($218 out the door…). It looked like the coolest! 😆
I find it hilarious when moms refuse to give their sons the toy guns they want and the kid just picks up a gun shaped stick and uses that. You can't stop a boy from being a boy and most little boys are obsessed with weapons of every kind.
@@grahamtotte7133 There was an interesting interview with parents here in switzerland, where the general consensus was that they think taking toyguns away from kids is stupid, we simply need to teach them that real guns are NOT like their toys and shouldnt be treated like them. So that was very based of my countrymen.
Airgun featured here is an FX airgun, made in Sweden. They are known for their advanced rifle/barrel design, air pressure regulation, ammunition and most of all their accuracy.
How did your Mother get that way?
@@1waltrp I know them for introducing a new gun, (.35 cal.Impact), wanting a down payment, and people not getting them for over a year.
It was very satisfying to hear the pings from the long-range targets on the hill. 300 yards with an air gun. Impressive. Very nice. 😎
Let's see Paul Allen's.
😂 There goes my comment. That's actually the sound of the receiver vibration. PCP models use a disk valve
*I have an AMERICAN AIR .457 magnum shooting 680 grain slugs and I go Elk and Bore hunting with it. 100% Deadly at 275 yds. / 1000 feet per second with a silencer on it is very silent and holds a 2" group 300 yards. More power than a .45 ACP. not bad for an air rifle.*
A lot of people here in California are buying these air powered rifles and like they said you can learn the fundamentals of marksmanship with these and you dont need a range or even be out of city limits to shoot em... I love all this
If you don't get caught 😂. Even I texas legally you need 10 acres of land between you and your neighbors to shoot air rifles on your own land. We even allow hunts with them now the 357 calibers and 45 is allowed for hog hunts.
@@elix901 actually that is only if you are inside city limits. If you live in texas and you live in a city, you are missing the whole point of texas
I have real bad news for you, but every city and county in California I know of or worked in, had laws restricting air gun use. There were also other agencies such as park districts etc that had rules. If you live in a small city far from everyone, it might be legal. But check very carefully.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx correct but, that's where all the jobs are lol.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx oh I know about the laws but just saying if you are not stupid about it most people wouldn't even know you were plinking some targets. I mean if you dont have any room between you and the neighbor then dont be shooting but if you have some space you can pop some rounds.
Awesome! I've been an air gunner for the last 10 years and let me tell you, the precision is unbelievable but so is the price for a piece of kit like this. You're looking at 3k+ on this setup! Also air guns are available in calibers to take bear with... no joke.
In my opinion, it's mainly the glass
Yeah and the FX bullets are twice the price of a multi component .22 cartridges.
3K is 2.5K too much
@@tonyelbows8045 sorry you’re poor
@@hstone-kf7su The ATF can make you poor too if you want to buy a suppressor, a machine gun, a drop-in auto sear, « pistols ». Civil rights, yes, it exists but only for the (very, like, VERY) rich people who can afford the taxes, the several months of delay after filling up forms (in which they can reply « no, bugger off lol »). We saw that in USSR’s administrative imbroglio and ironically now in your favorite liberal and capitalist regime. If I had to pay outrageous taxes and ask permission to exercise my rights on top of being successful in life everytime, then how many people can enjoy freedom in the end? Not the majority, it becomes more and more a niche or elite thing, which is the definition of a privilege, not a democratic thing.
Years ago i was on the airgun craze.. while fun they are crazy expensive, the price points for them are typically higher than quality rimfires and maintaining them is very time consuming. 2 of the 3 i still currently have leak. constantly trying to find leaks and lubricate o-rings become an annoyance especially with how intricate they can be.. useful, quiet, and cheaper on a per shot basis. but I’ve stop investing in air rifles because rimfire is just more user friendly
I got a rock island bolt .22 because it was threaded. 130 bucks. Put a $50 scope on it, and a $500 griffen
(+$200 stamp) suppressor. Cci segmented sub sonic bullets. Super quiet, no hassle. I can't imagine paying more for an air gun. No matter how good it is.
@@yep-sb4uf my FX Bobcat cost me around $2300. not including scope and pump for refilling. it’s an incredible rifle, stacks .22 pellets in the same hole at 50 yards. but it’s been to FX for leak repairs once and a month after it started to leak again. It’s still shoots great but won’t hold air for more than 24 hours. i pump it up before i go out for squirrel. that’s about all the use it gets now. i’d like to add that was almost 10 years ago when i bought it. and i can tell you i haven’t shot enough pellets to recoup that cost, and i’ve shot ALOT.
@@Ezerhoden950
Have you tried a condor SS for the same type of shooting? You'll need to remote it but you'll get about double the fpe at the cost of having to single load.
I've been running Airforce airguns for a while now and they've been much more reliable from my experience. No leaks or issues even with the big bores. That said, they're much simpler designs than the fx rigs but I've been getting solid results from them and the price of the guns are more reasonable as well. Single load tray is a bit of a pity but I simply haven't had the issues other airgunners running magazines have had... Again, it's a tube, not much to go wrong. I used to think that them not putting a regulator directly on their guns was terrible but after seeing the problems others have had with inline regulator leakage, having my regulator on my remote line might actually have been the right call. Also having the entire tank be at regulated pressure rather than just trying to force it via valve has given me obvious consistency at full air flow which is a plus. Something worth looking at. All SS and LSS model Airforce airguns can take donnyFL moderators as a simple screw on to dramatically decrease sound levels
@@CtrlAltRetreat i’ve considered one years ago, but ended up getting the Benjamin Bulldog at a way discounted price. i don’t want to say it. but my bulldog is the only one that doesn’t leak. haha. at this point in time i don’t have a reason to even consider a new air rifle. having a .22,.25,.35 model i can make do with them.
@@Ezerhoden950
Nice, while they won't match up to the accuracy of your fxs, they're designed for real use by regular folk and from what I've seen generally hold up to it with the exception of that bolt handle. A good bulldog is an excellent platform. They're engineered with a certain amount of leeway in mind which makes them much more robust than you'd think and you get .357 in a magazine for both solid energy and repeat capability. Have you looked into pitbull airguns work? I've been highly impressed with their work from the guys that have had their mega moderators and extended plus pressure regulated tanks. Good stuff
Question: how much would that rifle tested (with scope) cost?
Also, how are the air cylinders charged?
Thanks....
That is a really high end rifle. With an OK scope you're looling at around 2000-2500$ with all the gear you need. If you dont go so high end you can get into good PCP airguns at 1000-1500$ with all the gear. There are more the on way to charge it, but the easyest is to have a separate diving tank that can fill this guns a lot of times. Its inexpensive to charge at any diving center or firemen station. Or you can get a home compressor, but the good ones are expensive.
There are even some larger caliber air guns that are meant to hunt larger game. Winchester has a .45 airgun that can take down deer. BB guns aren't just little trainers for kids to shoot cans with, they can get very serious.
There are models that can be used with bolts as well, they are classified as bows in some regions. They have been used effectively on dangerous game such as cape buffalo.
BB gun is not a air rifle
Can I get a link to that airgun
Even a 50 cal. Just search 50 cal airgun on yt.
@@xxxHighSpeedxxx that thing is nuts. packs a hit.
It’s actually a normal sized bike. He’s just 12 feet tall
Used to have a.177 pump air rifle. Took it apart put a piece of inner tube in the bleed off valve so it couldn't bleed off. It could put a bb right through a car door into the interior. Awesome.
based backyard scientist
If you had a way to fill gas canister at home manually; really a great bug out gun for survival hunting. You could have thousands of inexpensive bullets with infinite recharging.
A bike pump can get some gnarly pressure
There are manual pumps for those rifles
I use to be a compressor service tech and worked on some crazy high pressure systems. I wonder if those guys will let me just come over and fill up some tanks? 😂
air guns are finicky and way too many seals for a survival rig. best off with a 22 and loads of ammo
You can accomplish essentially the same thing with a .22lr. The ammo is a little heavier but the rifle can be much smaller and lighter. As well as much less complicated.
Americans are lucky with there gun laws. In canada an air rifle legally becomes a firearm when a .22 travels over 500fps.
We are not lucky, not by any means, our forefathers fought for these rights and established these in our constitution. You are more than welcome to come here and become a citizen and gain these same rights if you’d like 👍
A $50 Crossman 1322 pistol does that. With mods they can hit 650-700fps
We use .22 and .17 for pest control (rats, Pidgeon, squirrel,rabbit and corvids) but also use FAC air rifles specifically in barns and outbuilding that use asbestos sheeting as cladding also useful for urban areas where residents tend to be rather sensitive about fluffy things and noise. Air rifle have their place, my favorite go to is an old tuned Daystate pcp rentokill rifle that never fails, whisper quiet, extremely accurate and effective. Underrated tool for light pest control.
A crazy cat lady used to live next to me. That is all I am saying.
@@harpintn I'll move in
@@Sora2529 She has been gone for a few years now, and an elderly cat free couple lives there. We still have a couple of cats wandering the neighborhood, but not the plague of cats that we had.
@@harpintn I'd kill for a plague of cats, I have skunks and other miscreants around my house.
Better than an AR15
Turned 17 yesterday, my parents signed waivers for me to get training. Thanks for setting me on this path Mike!!!
This is the way🤙
You are going to pass the knowledge and freedom to your generation!
Training is a force multiplier.
You can only run one gun at a time, but training can easily quadruple your effectiveness with it. And you can pass that training and know-how along to any number of other folk, for free, at any time, and provide a force multiplier for them as well.
Good for you dude.
Good headspace.
Happy birthday :) 🎉
That's Mr. Thumb to you!
Some time ago, Polenar Tactical examined Texan AirArms .50 rifles and they punched a hole trough a frying pan with it. Granted, it was aluminium frying pan, but still.
Both FX and Texan AA are excellent and pricey air rifles.
Texan and condor are Airforce brand
I like to see an air gun push out some Underwood Extreme Penetration copper solids just for fun
Like to the tune of what pricey?
@@thejason755 1500 to 2000 USD pricey. For an American, not much, but for a wage slave in Serbia it is a LOT.
I have gone back to that video which Polenar did and I have to apologize - it was indeed an AirArms Texan rifle, but in .45 caliber. They did some fun tests and found out that the .45 slug from air rifle has energy at the muzzle comparable to a 9mm parabellum round out of a pistol, but it doesn't have its penetration due to much lower speed of the round.
@@bromazepam781 thats a pricey tune
The Girardoni air rifle was in service with the Austrian army from 1780 to around 1815. Effective range of 125 Yards with 30 Rounds Air capasity, Either .46 or a .51 with around 500 fps
Thanks. I have Google too.
This could have been your big chance if only you had air rifle content on your channel!!
@@eriklarson9137 to be beholden to RUclips censors?
Napoleon hated these things
@@KingPhilipsRideshare Yup and I remeber Seeing Ians episode on this rifle
My favorite large bore Airgun is the Zalinski airguns used on the U.S.S. Vesuvius (1888) that had 15 inch bores and launched dynamite filled projectiles.
;) Spudgun 300'd 3'r ;) oops😮
Uh what? Explosive bb's?
It freaked the Spanish out because with no blast from the guns, they had no idea where it was coming from.
@@ourshelties7649 Yes an early Stealth weapon
That’s really cool! I’m glad you mentioned that, I’m gonna go look it up and read more about it
Who can afford a 2,000.00 air rifle?
I’d find the money!
Who would want a 2000 air rifle?
I like my Fx impact at 2200 it's worth it.
I go target shooting with my dad with these things. We have air rifles from .22 to .457. We can shoot a lot more rounds on the range than everyone else, since we're not worried about the cost of ammo.
The guy said it was $16 for 100 right? That’s MORE expensive.
@@hansgruber9685 for the 30 cals, that's as much for a tin of 150 pellets. For .457 its $20 for 50 200 grain slugs. You could reform lead into these pellets though, as thats what most airgun ammo is.
FX pellets carry a price premium. So I think they were going for that number.
@@hansgruber9685 You can get 500 for $15 or less of .177 or .22.
Lol a decent compressor cost over 1k alone plus the external tank you have to lug around… isn’t worth it
@@matthewrezuke8130 you fill your extra tank at a SCUBA shop for cheap and it can refill the main tank many times over.
I've been into PCP for a few years. Love it. ZERO regrets. I'd never use one for defensive purposes or even a bug out hunting gun. Far too finicky. If I'm going with air for survival it's a break barrel.
I too love PCP. Helluva drug.
Nice one I’m a pcp man I use a compressor but keep a pump in case power wer to become an issue
Interesting. I have a hatsan mod130s break-barrel, but I think I'd prefer a PCP with a handpump [for air survival]. Break barrels have crazy heavy break-weight [mine is about 45 lbs] and low velocity [590fps I think, using ~47gr.]
@@SonOfNone you'd be pumping til your arm falls off lol
I like pcp too but I keep waking up face down in a tire
Call it a BB gun at your own risk.
I'm so glad you guys were able to put this together and show what modern airguns are capable of. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but most States allow some type of hunting for non-game, all the way up to big game. Any animal/bird that you can hunt with a firearm in the State of Idaho, you can hunt with an airgun. In Idaho there are caliber requirements for medium and big game, as well as lead-free and caliber requirements for waterfowl, but they are easy to follow and gives you one more way to hunt in this great State!
Waterfowl is wild because there’s air shotguns nowadays. I would’ve never imagined duck hunting with an air gun
@@twilightzone39 - We can use single projectiles shot out of airguns as well. They must be .20 caliber or smaller and the projectile must be lead-free. This falls within the guidelines of the USFW laws.
I love Idaho, always will. Born and raised.
I don’t understand the reasoning to wanting to hunt with an air gun over a regular gun, but it’s pretty cool none the less
@@ricksmith7232 - Idaho does not allow you to hunt upland game birds with a firearm (other than Forest Grouse). They also open up a lot of new opportunities for access on private land, where firearms, including rimfires and shotguns, would not be a viable solution. For example, I have permission to shoot Pigeons and Starlings inside barns on a large Dairy here in SW Idaho. Shotguns, or other firearms are strictly prohibited. Of course, there is also the fun/challenge factor as well. I believe anything that expands our hunting opportunities is a good thing. So this is just one more option available to all of us.
Long live 22 man! I felt his essence flowing through this whole video. It was just beautiful.
That is one beautiful air rifle. I was surprised how deep the ball penetrated the gelatin. So quiet, it didn't seem capable of much. A good thing about airgun, they make you study precision fundamentals.
You could have just said the airgun went balls deep into the gelatin.
@@seijiroukikuoka5975 You right. What was I thinking. That airgun shot it's "SHOT" into that gelatin 🤭
FX Panthera 700 is the name of the rife. If you make a video about the rifle, give the audience name and model of the rifle Garand lol.
I haven’t picked up my .22lr since buying an fx. I do think the .22 lr drops less, bucks the wind better and holds more energy behind it. The airgun works wonders on ground squirrels. There are other models that cater more towards a hunting platform. More shots per fill, larger magazine ect.
The possibilities of tuning and modifying them is so much better than on traditional ones. I mean just being able to tune the velocities at a mach site within 10 minutes is a game changer! So much fun!
I’ve been following FX air guns for a long time, Matt duber is fantastic and helps develop them. Also has been developing some fantastic slug air guns that are incredibly accurate glad they’re getting more attention
I've seen these new type of .22 pellets that look like a reverse hollow point, almost as if they were armor piercing 5.56 ammo with the penetrator cores removed
so expensive though man. I was gonna go with a wildcat for hunting here in the uk but its just so much money. a 22 with subsonic rounds is just the most sensible option. plus im not a tinkerer and airguns require a lot of messing around with
What is this rifle that they were shooting ? I can't find it on their site.
@@Phoenixrises113 FX Panthera
Had a whole crew of guys come out to the ranch with these to hunt ground squirrels. Very economical critter control, extremely impressive performance.
Ironically in Canada these are classified as an firearm, but we can get all our firearms delivered to us from online purchases via the regular mail if you have a firearm license... no need for FBI background checks or going to a FFL dealer
I use my Texan SS .457 for deer and bear hunting. I find them to do very well for penetrating's shots (Sort of like a arrow). They work really well, although they very easily over penetrate (watch what's behind your target as it will also be hit). I feel like this air rifle though (in the video) is still mid-low-range (regarding power). Also that stock tank is really small. I use a 4500psi carbon fiber tank on mine.
Deer is one thing, but you really do have to be out of your god damn mind to hunt bear with a single-shot air rifle......
@@Astraeus.. They are not single shot, also its black bear. Mine is bolt action, I get 5-6 good high powered shots. They are super accurate though... so range and good shot placement is key.
I also have a tank and a regulator to a larger separate tank that can refill or give me +100 shots if I keep it connected with a regulator.
@@Astraeus..Dude, the guy is probably sitting in a tree stand with a bait setup beneath him and shooting the bear from 30ft away.
I have same one… its a beast
@@jimyeats Oh no, not up a tree. What's a bear ever gonna do about that.....
The channel Ted's HoldOver opened my eyes to the wonderful world of high power air rifles. Dude can doink a bird with a headshot at like 100 yards 🤕
Watch some of the airgun videos. Guys shooting FX guns consistently take pigeons and doves off barns at 160, 180, some 200 yds.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 yeah. Ted's HoldOver is one of those channels. He does pest control for farmers and whoever else needs his skills. Dude is amazing.
I have some cheap springers that are pretty dang accurate. I would love a good PCP. I just can't justify the cost right now. But, they are pretty awesome.
Last year I took a gopher down from 127 yards and was so stoked about it! I can just imagine how difficult it can be at further distances. I got it on film too and holy moly what hunting ammo will do in slow motion.
Got a 45. cal air rifle, the Texan LSS. You can hunt Boars with here in Europe, pretty effective and is extremely accurate up to 300 meters. More powerful than a 45. ACP
That's not you.....
O hai bot...
Yup. I chose one in .357 because of the price difference, not disappointed.
.45 acp fan boy comments incoming.
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