I was truckin in the early 1980's, we kept two log books, ran all night long, didn't use any drugs, and we had way fewer semi accidents back then than they have now......and we had one hell of a good time, and made very good money back then. The government has taken all the fun and all the money out of trucking now, and I am not really sure how you can keep from getting bored by driving a truck with an automatic transmission. We stayed awake simply because we had to constantly be listening to the engine to know when to shift.
craig84074 you sound like you be shifting at all times. Come on... man. I’ve been driving since the 80’s too and trust me after a while AUTOMATED trucks are the best if you don’t want to be tired at the end of the day.
I have been driving a truck for years as company driver and now as owner operator, and can tell you that ELD is NOT good solution. You loose every day at least 5-7 hours at pick ups and deliveries, traffic jams, accidents on the road, brokers reasons, weather conditions etc. so basically you have 5-7 hours for driving. If you are owner operator and feed your family from this job, you will not make nothing working hard every day knowing that you pay everything related to your truck and trailer (maintenance, fuel, company commission, insurances, tolls...etc). ELD put pressure on truck drivers and makes them nervous. If you look country accident rate on yearly base involving big semi trucks before and after ELD, you will notice that rate went up significantly. Truck driver are limited with time and they want to use it to get to final destination neglecting speed limit etc. With paper logs I was much more relaxed and had a time for everything, but not now.
Attention drivers :-- very important message to all of you who’s run illegal gps or keep trucking or what ever e-log . If you get into a crash and some one get killed and went to court , they will look 👀 up All your phone calls and messages All your logs for the last 6 months All your driving recorded They will try to get your tolls recite and compare them to your log They will try to get a copy of all your bOL and compare them They will try anything , they will try to find recite in your trash and looked them to your e-logs They will look up your work history and all the ticket you diss missed and not showing on your record When a fatal accident happened you might charge with murder , you might go to jail for long time . A lot of new drivers can’t understand it , until they been in court and start hearing those facts then regardless what you say ( your life will be between the judge 👨⚖️ hands). If you in fatality accident , first you will be tested in the same min , if it com positive you are fucked Big time . A lot of companies will try so hard to through you under the buss , you ain’t worth millions for them . Run legally or quit this job , people wanna always blame truckers since all of them knows insurance will pay millions for those crashes .
webmillions I have a friend been in a crash , the lady T bone him , here car had NO break still , she get killed in that crash when things went to court , here lawyer try to get the driver debit and credit statements 🤣 I was in some of his court hearing before they charge the COMPANY 150 000$ even though it was the women fault , but the company lawyer was saying it is better to settle things Man that was some BS But trust me , in court they always in the 4Wheeler side unless you prove them the car was 100% on fault That’s why buying a camera 📸 will help you a lot in the court
baretta369 yeah maybe your 1999 century insurance pay that 1 million :) But when it’s a big company and there is driver fuck around :) it’s Not 1 million Walmart pay Tracy Morgan 300 million if not more :) You wanna drive illegal do it , at the end you are the one who is responsible for what you do .
Strict laws exist because some people won't do the right thing without them. We wouldn't have such strict laws if fools weren't out driving for 96 hours on meth.
Slawomir Lech your Midwest running wild , gone son ... you will be on ELD regardless what you say ....go do research your self I don’t need it ... I been driving for 15 years with out being killed so am sure you’re wrong 🤣🤣🤣
The reason you can’t cheat the logs is because the ELD is connected to your truck’s computer system so it knows exactly how many miles were travelled unconnected to the ELD.
I was a Sergeant in the Sheriff's Dept. for many years. You could work around the clock, no physicals or drug tests(except initial),no speed limits,no state certification every year,no governors and make life and death decisions in any state of mind/body. Now that I drive TT for an hour between cities, they give me all kinds of bs red tape,random drug tests, physicals,etc... Someone let the politicians walk all over truckers.
A driver unplugging their logs is not worth it. Cuz what if something happens, the driver would be screwed. Also I was delivering this morning and there was a driver going like 2 mph. So he wouldn't trip his logs. Just saying that's embarrassing. I hate seeing that, cuz I feel sorry for them. I drove past him obviously, cuz paper. And he was an owner operator, with a pretty nice Classic. Ah man what's going on in trucking!?! Also my brother started driving a truck recently. I tried to talk him out of it, but it didn't work. But luckily he's got his head on straight. He will be going to something more local. As of currently. I'm giving him pointers and advice when he calls. Especially with those elogs. Cuz he does run outta time on occasion, unforeseen events and what not. Planning only gets ya so far. His enthusiasm is mind boggling. Obviously a driver has to be numb to a lot of things to make trucking work these days.
it may come as a surprise to you, but in the US - with the most recent changes to the rules - there is no distance limit for your loaded or empty "PUC/Personal-Use Conveyance" move.......EXCEPT, that you must return to the same location where you began the PUC move, before you go back on-duty! So, if you ran 700 miles in PUC-mode, that means 350 miles one-way and another 350 miles back to the start line....more power to you, but you just wasted the equivalent in fuel for nought ;-( On the other hand, I would not recommend to do that kind of distance in PUC-mode while in Canada: here we are limited to 75 km/day (46.8 miles), and you must be either in bob-tail mode or in an empty box-truck.
@@andrep8287 It may come to a surprise to YOU but imma Outlaw.... I ran from Utah to California fully loaded and fresh outta hours back to my state. There was no round trip! I did what I did with a full load, signed bill of lading and an I don't give a fuck attitude!....I've wasted nothing but time breaking it down for your slow azz!
KNGPIN GANGSTA And when you get in an accident, even if it’s not your fault, you’re going to get everything taken from you in a lawsuit and sent to prison.
@@bblaam27 It will affect the degree of manslaughter, and the resulting sentence . So prison sentence or not can be the diff. with proven falsification
@@OneHonestCritic Don't know if you were asking me, but paper, electronic, either one matters, if they PROVE falsification, the charges and sentence is worse. With a death the legal team will pull out all stops to prove falsification, scales, tolls, traffic cams etc...better line up with the paper fudggin...and it does not have to be falsification on THAT specific day either. I know a driver that got prison sentence for exactly this, so I am not just bs you.
I spent 13 years running big trucks back and forth across this great nation of ours. The vast majority of that time was pulling reefers. After two major crashes, I finally got tired of being forced to run too farm too fast, and in too short a time. It is virtually impossible to keep track of three or four log books when you are physically and mentally exhausted. I ran e-logs for a short time after my retirement, as a fill in driver. There are some disadvantages, such as running out of hours 50 miles from home. But It was so great being able to run legally. When I reached point B, I was rested, and not so jangled that I couldn't even remember my name. (30 hours without sleep will do that to you, and I don't take pills) As an employed, paid by the mile driver, e-logs are just alright with me.
The ELD is actually easier to cheat then the AOELD was. But we don't want to share how because then it would come to an end. The bigger issue is say you park at 4 am on a on ramp into a full rest area knowing a lot of drivers will leave around 5 am and open up some free spots so you can do your 10. well not no more now your stuck on the ramp to get a ticket because if you move 5 to 10 feet they go on the drive line and create a violation of hours of service. you cant even do a yard move without losing your time. Same in a truck stop lot your stuck in the way you cant shower comeback and park. That's all this system does. it strand drivers so they can write more tickets.. so yes we have to find ways to do our job and avoid them tickets. There is a whole slew of other issues this change has brought up by pencil pushers..
LOL....Those Goobers (Gooberment) got you by your balls! like a child, those Goobers will get you and punish you for disobeying their orders/rules.....they got all truckers by the balls!
I found out on keep trucking if you go under no vehicle you can drive as long as you want and the GPS wont be active but you gotta come back to the same spot or close enough to go back under your vehicle number and itll show like you never left that spot
Good video. There are multiple drivers that brag about unplugging their ELD when they want to use the truck for personal use, instead of just logging PC.
@Chin Brumback There is no federal limit on how far you can use PC for. That is up to each individual company. US Express allows 50 miles. Some companies don't allow PC at all. Then there are O/O that use it to go home after they are empty, which is illegal. On one of Jack's earlier videos, he talked about one of their drivers that used PC to go to a truck stop, when he was told he could not park on the receivers lot over night. That is legal. But DOT wrote him up because he did not go to the nearest truck stop. He went to the next one down the road. There is more to that story, but that is the jist of what some drivers do or don't do.
@Chin Brumback It depends on what you used PC for. If you are sitting at a truck stop and use PC to go to Walmart, the movies, the gym, your girlfriend's, then yes you must return to your starting point of the PC. If you are at a shipper/receiver and run out of hours and they won't let you park there for your 10 hour break or you are parked on an off/on ramp and law enforcement instructs you to move, then you can use PC to move to "the closest safe place to park". That is even if it is going in the wrong direction of your planned trip. Then after your 10 hour break, you proceed from that point of safe parking.
@@happypappy6371 meanwhile children waiting for the shipment of grain to hit the docks so the boat can bring it to their third world country starve to death cruelly and helplessly all in the name of safety
On the keep trucking app every time you disconnect it from the truck it registers that in. Dot can see it when they did an audit on mine they found every single time I disconnected
@@User37717 luckily he was lenient he grilled me for about an hour then told me all the tickets in the stuff that he can do to my company and said next time it better not be this way ....I chuckled he chuckled and he gave me a weird look and I said yes sir it will not happen again....
I did that a few times but when i got my audit. the dot found it, the eld registers it as a disconnect. they will find it because they download your data file and run it through their system. he gave me slap on the hand and said too many of them will put you out of service lol.
Paper logs,or ELD my husband still made the same miles everyday.. he started at the same time, and ended at the same time everyday. He started at 5am at some truck stop pick up a load a run for 5.5hrs take a break, then run 5.5 more and be done for the day at 645pm
Your husband is local driver. Other guys work much harder than your husband (doing Over The Road) and do not have time for waist. That is why ELD is not good solution.
@@rebekahbrundage3509 that is mean that he is company driver and that makes difference. He doesn't care about wasting time waiting for brokers to get a load etc. I am owner operator OTR and things are much different than with your husband.
My wife works on the tech business. She did something on my sonar system logs and now i can drive while i'm off duty or sleeping i can do changes while I'm driving. 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍
What a great demonstration this was, for those drivers that have wondered about this. I'm not a trucker (although I did consider it in my younger years) but, I wouldn't want to be trucker now, in today's world of 'no privacy'. Thanks for the great videos.
Good thinking, trucking is not worth it. No privacy, no freedom. And a driver having to resort to gauging their pride based on how much of a professional sheep they can be is just sad.
Very interesting video to say the least. You are absolutely right about drivers needing to do pre-trip. Chances are you will catch something before it becomes an issue. I used to drive and my wife currently drives long haul for local company. Keep up the good work.
you can use personal conveyance to move around a truck stop and to drive to a truck stop. You can be fully loaded and use personal conveyance. If you get to a city on friday and dont unload until monday, you can drive around on personal conveyance from store to store or wherever.
...correct, as long as you return to the exact location where you began your PUC period. Also, don't forget to still conduct a DVI (Daily Vehicle Inspection), because the one you did while still "on-the-clock" expires after 24-hours.
This is good to watch for the people who actually believe they can get away with shit like this... and then they're in shock when DOT shuts them down for falsifying logs.
On another note though: To me the e-log restrictions are absolutely criminal in nature. Whoever came up with all of those income reducing/time wasting laws and regulations should receive life in prison without parole.
You sound like your actually in favor of the redcoats? I mean DOT officers ? You can lick their boots all your want son they own you once you plug in that ELD I’m a grown man I decide when I’m tired and how long I need to sleep I don’t need the government to do that for me it’s illegal it violates the 4th amendment
I don’t mind running the ELD’s but the only thing that sucks is if for instance bad weather like a snow storm is coming your way and you are on your break at a truck stop obviously you would like to leave and get away from the snowstorm before it comes , Instead of just sitting at the truck stop on your break like a bump on a log . I would run according to my sleep clock and according to the weather but these days you can’t do that unfortunately.
I can see why people get frustrated with logs but on the other hand if you cant make a living doing 14 hour days, you really need a different job. Paying drivers by the hour would solve a lot of the problems.
I’ve never used anything but loose leaf paper logs. I quit driving 10 years ago and never used E logs before. I’m thinking about going back to driving but I dunno how I could get anything done with those e logs 🤦♂️. If I lost 4 hours trying to get loaded back then I could just log it as off duty and mark 15 mins loading and save all that time. Or if it took 4 hours to get somewhere that should only take 2 hours I could log it as 2 hours and get back the other 2 hours. But these e logs ???? I have no clue
Is there a way to put the hours waiting to be load towards resting time? Cus technically that is what u do when all u have is to wait. But somehow that wait time or lost time is included in the driving time. That is where I see it as a disadvantage and a steal.
So it boils down can’t cheat on your electronic logs cause you still will get caught but when a shipper or a receiver holds a driver up for long periods of time to load or unload and then you can’t stop the 14 hour clock and run out of time and they want you off their property but no time to drive to a safe place to park cause every truck stop is full for a hundred miles then what does a driver do
Some truckers seem to forget that there not the only ones on the rd. They have rules that are not pointed at one individual but them all. Yes not everyone's sleep patterns are the same but out of all reality is it worth screwing around with ur logs. My family all drive on major hwy and would like to know that all truckers are well rested and following the rules so that there safe as well as everyone else that's driving on are roads.
I always chuckle when I hear someone talk about the government doing this to us. If the insurance and trucking industry didn't want it to happen, the change to E-logs would never have happened. They would have just slipped the politicians a few more bucks and voilà, status quo. The perception of rouge truckers, sleepy truckers, and accident causing truckers on the road along with some real life million dollar law suits against trucking companies brought about the regulation changes. IMHO
Besides the fact of multi million dollar accidents...and other negative aspects related !....If YOU dont think the fmcsa is in bed with our CORRUPT ass goverment in order to control the flow of revenue in their favor...then YOU sir are just as naive !!! Keep on "CHUCKLIN" !
That is x-actly how it works. The fat cats control everything. If you want to find who they are, just take note of who's ultimately profits from economic downturns. Recessions never happen by accident.
Companies nowadays must schedule driver's loads to be picked up, driven to the consignee while allowing for all the mandatory stops according to the law, and still arrive at the receiver ON TIME. When I drove OTR in the 70's and 80's, if you didn't break all the driving laws, every load you pulled would have been delivered LATE - and for that, a driver would be fired if it happened more than once.
Different models can be tricked. If it is hardwired into system they put a tiny fuse hidden in fuse area that ties the system in. If you remove that extra fuse it is still powered up but no longer reads truck is moving. You can drive all day and it leaves you at off duty. Follow the wires but only works on hardwired systems
Actually, you mean “pre-electronic”. 1999 is the cutoff. There aren’t that many people who can deal with a truck that old, unless you can get yourself one of the remaining gliders out there.
No matter what ELD you have or your company uses no matter how you unhook it you will always show miles without hours. So you will have to show or have proof of where the miles came from
Go to the dot mode! Look at all the info they get, it even shows when you log out and log in, it shows when you start and stop the engine, and it also shows some "int location" data
The DOT inspections side of the app will indicate there had been a disconnect. They will also see a discrepancy in miles and odometer readings. Or is short You've hidden nothing and will get caught. One interesting point of interest, however. After checking out my speedometer censer (at back of transmission) I forgot to plug back in and started driving. I had only driven about 3 miles before noticing that not only was my speedometer not working but my that my ELD also had not kicked me into "on duty driving." Got under the truck and plugged the censor back in and all went back to working as usual. I didn't ever go back to experiment cheating in such a way, but found it interesting none the less.
@@allanj4576 Well Peter, here in the good ole U.S. of A. we {Truckers} are treated like children by the Gooberment, and let me tell ya, if you disobey those Goobers they will fuck your life up or at least your driving career....Goobers rule with a iron fist here!!!
I have been looking at getting back in to trucking. I stopped in 1998. I used to run dual log books. Is there a way to do that with the electronic system or is that now impossible? At least, back then, it was impossible to make money without running multiple logbooks. These were the kind that yyou used pencil to fill out. You older guys know what Im talking about. Any help would be super appreciated! Thanks.
Good video, And remember a truck driver always has enough hours to get himself home but never enough hours to do something for dispatch that he doesn't want to do. Cheating on log books.
When you reconected the software on the phone should have offered you the opportunity to accept or reject the disconected drive time; you know just in case a screw came loose or you had a faulty plug, also to let the driver save face and find out in the truck they got away with nothing
That wouldn't work neither because my truck was towed before and it still triggered my elog. They must use gps idk? Try it though just 4 the hell of it it may work?
Electronic logging is infallible. I was one of the first safety managers to use electronic logs in 1990-1991. Rockwell’s Tripmaster, Xata, Cadec had to build fail safes to catch any cheating by drivers. I went to work for Rockwell in 1996 traveling and training. I was asked by companies like Sysco & Shell to verify a driver’s claim or support and explain the electronic log. It’s been so long now that I only worked with the 60 - 70 hours of service.. Don’t mess with it. You’ll never know when DOT wants to audit your files. (The company’s files)
Keep Trucking logs use a 5 pin adapter and directly link to the ECM... the odometer will roll over plus the ECM hour meter... these are easily accessible as information to bust you cheating...
Hey, you still gone have to take a 10 in 14 hrs due to you started your pretrip when you did . If you wouldn't have took your or logged your pretrip . If your getting paid for it you have to log it unless your trying to get to a safe place to park with PC !
I know someone who works for a local company within the state he’s in. The truck is ELD equipped and his boss tell him to disconnect because he’s always within his 100 nautical miles and not required to have elogs. What can happen if they’re audited by the DOT? Anyone......
And then you get into an accident end up killing somebody it’s not your fault at all then an investigation starts and you go to prison don’t do this guys
@@C_Tovar_503 yes, but I've had them fail and didn't know. It depends on what the failure is. If it gues black, then it's obvious, but a communication failure may never be noticed. To me trucking jobs have been a dime a dozen, I've quit, been fired and just vanished from one. Another job was ready for me a few days after I started looking. So I never really cared about their rules. I'll comply with the laws, but threats of a trucking company are right down there with a pissed off 711 clerk.
Never had to use an eld but I hear alot of remarks about the driver can't really control their schedule say in the event of hours of bumper to bumper traffic like you can a paper log. (Hard to believe the driver can't choose to stop somewhere and take the rest time during an event like that) but it Seems like it would really help keep track of things like the milage per state for IFTA. Weather someone likes the ELD or not, trucks are being overly regulated again. What do y'all think of this new mandatory CDL "college course" they are putting into affect come February 7th?
you can do 2 things in bumper to bumper traffic... if your going under 5mph you can switch to on or off duty which saves your drive time...Ive done this for an hour and it reset my break clock... or you can go into split log mode if you take 2 hours consecutively off....but then at the end of your shift you will have go into sleeper berth for 8 hours minimum.... split logs make everything so much easier you can waste 8 hours at a delivery or pick up on off duty unloading or loading in the notes......then get all that time back when you begin to drive. keep truckin even has a split log clock that keeps track of your hours
If there was an accident driver would be fined then company fined for letting it happen then driver loses his job is it worth it?? Going to jail for accident while eld is unplugged? Only you can make that decision
Many drivers perform pre-trip inspections from the drivers seat or the sleeper. Some companies require a video of the inspection after they found out that drivers weren't doing inspections. The location marked and time stamped video is sent to the home office.
When you send your information to ERODS at the roadside, it will catch the odometer skip in a heartbeat. When you send your log it sends all the details of your log, satellite and ECM data. I can't say for sure, but every ELD system I've used has an odometer skip report. I run HOS violations, PC, unassigned driving and odometer skips for my fleet every day.
Few years back. Police had shoot out with guys pulled robbery killed Husband & Wife many states away. I think local news media screw up. This a little small country area very low Pop..150+ miles any big town, They had already License Plate reader camera's on 4-lane they reported Police was waiting on them and knew they was keep coming there way. You watched more than you think.
What Jack does not mention is dispatch being able to edit logs but not the driver. The other main issue is having to move really slow around the parking lot. For example the other driver decides to park his trailer clear across the truck stop and refuses to move it close. So you 3mph in your bobtail to keep from going on duty driving during your break across the truck stop. It's currently set up for the company to work you to the max and set all the fault on the driver for insurance purposes. Meanwhile the authorities are endlessly chanting "safety" but dispatch has you working during your break. So it's right back to how it was when I started driving back in 1998 - NO SLEEP!
You have to watch out for the dispatchers in your own company too, because they will gladly feck you over to get a load picked up or delivered on time, even if you dont have the hours to do it. When I was a new driver, on paper logs, they would say things like, "Are you sure you don't have 2 more hrs available for this trip? Why don't you check your hours a little closer, maybe you made a mistake somewhere." They were careful not to just come out and say cheat them, but it was obvious that is what they wanted. I did it the first time or two, til older, wiser drivers smartened me up a little bit. The tickets you could get for getting caught, or God forbid you got in an accident, were nowhere near worth it. Even after we went on e-logs, I had dispatchers claim they could make an adjustment on my logs from the office to get me an extra hour or two. No idea if they could really do it without it showing up SOME where, but I always told them no, I would only run legal. They aren't the ones who could lose their jobs or even their freedom if something went wrong.
Do you have the latest new pplnet. The new system I cant move not even 1 foot. So far if you in the SB I manage to move 30 yards without switching to driving
Why did you lament at the end? This video you made, was excellent! Very informative! Are you a 'less government' thinker? Your Government wants less exhausted 'Professional' drivers being SAFE OTR. You must know about the horrific tragedies out there on drivers for a number of reasons pushing too hard or cheating the system. Let's be safe out there, first! Move forward!
20,000 people die every day of starvation. Kinda dwarfs truck accidents. Their is always something you lose when you mitigate risk. So risk management is the key. In my opinion if that trucker wants to hall that load an extra couple hours so he can drop off some grain at a dock that will help those starrving then its all worth it.....but some people only see the tradgedy they want to see.
Just get a eld check from a CHP and they know I disconnected the samsara device I was unloading and disconnected because sometime they want to move fast after they unloading you. I
Paper logs were the good ol days
If you dispatch yourself, yes. Company drivers are better off with ELDs to keep the dispatchers in check.
I was truckin in the early 1980's, we kept two log books, ran all night long, didn't use any drugs, and we had way fewer semi accidents back then than they have now......and we had one hell of a good time, and made very good money back then. The government has taken all the fun and all the money out of trucking now, and I am not really sure how you can keep from getting bored by driving a truck with an automatic transmission. We stayed awake simply because we had to constantly be listening to the engine to know when to shift.
Yes. That was the time. Today's ELD make pressure on truck drivers and keep them nervous
The good ol days. More like it was the good ol days before trucking got regulated and before people got their hands in when they didn’t belong.
craig84074 you sound like you be shifting at all times. Come on... man. I’ve been driving since the 80’s too and trust me after a while AUTOMATED trucks are the best if you don’t want to be tired at the end of the day.
I have been driving a truck for years as company driver and now as owner operator, and can tell you that ELD is NOT good solution. You loose every day at least 5-7 hours at pick ups and deliveries, traffic jams, accidents on the road, brokers reasons, weather conditions etc. so basically you have 5-7 hours for driving. If you are owner operator and feed your family from this job, you will not make nothing working hard every day knowing that you pay everything related to your truck and trailer (maintenance, fuel, company commission, insurances, tolls...etc). ELD put pressure on truck drivers and makes them nervous. If you look country accident rate on yearly base involving big semi trucks before and after ELD, you will notice that rate went up significantly. Truck driver are limited with time and they want to use it to get to final destination neglecting speed limit etc. With paper logs I was much more relaxed and had a time for everything, but not now.
Perhaps it's the system that treats you like shit and values your miles not your time that is to fault?
@@wiredforstereothe study says ELD kills more people than paper logbooks. There's no need to add anything about it here.
As a truck driver when ELD becomes I begin use my truck with the max speed limit
not to include the oppurtunity lose. 20,000 starve to death every day when food may have reached them without ELD.
Before elog my company paid me .41cpm vs now i get .56 i like elog
Attention drivers :-- very important message to all of you who’s run illegal gps or keep trucking or what ever e-log .
If you get into a crash and some one get killed and went to court , they will look 👀 up
All your phone calls and messages
All your logs for the last 6 months
All your driving recorded
They will try to get your tolls recite and compare them to your log
They will try to get a copy of all your bOL and compare them
They will try anything , they will try to find recite in your trash and looked them to your e-logs
They will look up your work history and all the ticket you diss missed and not showing on your record
When a fatal accident happened you might charge with murder , you might go to jail for long time .
A lot of new drivers can’t understand it , until they been in court and start hearing those facts then regardless what you say ( your life will be between the judge 👨⚖️ hands).
If you in fatality accident , first you will be tested in the same min , if it com positive you are fucked Big time .
A lot of companies will try so hard to through you under the buss , you ain’t worth millions for them .
Run legally or quit this job , people wanna always blame truckers since all of them knows insurance will pay millions for those crashes .
webmillions I have a friend been in a crash , the lady T bone him , here car had NO break still , she get killed in that crash when things went to court , here lawyer try to get the driver debit and credit statements 🤣
I was in some of his court hearing before they charge the COMPANY 150 000$ even though it was the women fault , but the company lawyer was saying it is better to settle things
Man that was some BS
But trust me , in court they always in the 4Wheeler side unless you prove them the car was 100% on fault
That’s why buying a camera 📸 will help you a lot in the court
baretta369 yeah maybe your 1999 century insurance pay that 1 million :)
But when it’s a big company and there is driver fuck around :) it’s Not 1 million
Walmart pay Tracy Morgan 300 million if not more :)
You wanna drive illegal do it , at the end you are the one who is responsible for what you do .
Strict laws exist because some people won't do the right thing without them. We wouldn't have such strict laws if fools weren't out driving for 96 hours on meth.
Research has shown that ELD kills more people than elog books, so your opinion does not match up with reality.
Slawomir Lech your Midwest running wild , gone son ... you will be on ELD regardless what you say ....go do research your self I don’t need it ... I been driving for 15 years with out being killed so am sure you’re wrong 🤣🤣🤣
The reason you can’t cheat the logs is because the ELD is connected to your truck’s computer system so it knows exactly how many miles were travelled unconnected to the ELD.
Tryn to splain this to my boss..thinks I'm nuts..okkkkk..if he gets caught oh boy
@@bigred1247 not to mention going off duty in one location and on duty in another.
Before GPS, paper logs were derisively referred to as "comic books". I usually kept two.
"Funny books"
misterjag
And “Swindle Sheets.” 😅🤣
coloring book
Don't know how you did it with two. Two always caught up with me. I needed three to keep going without eventually running out of time.
I’m a professional author or writer I guess you could say. I just drove truck part time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s what I tell people
I was a Sergeant in the Sheriff's Dept. for many years. You could work around the clock, no physicals or drug tests(except initial),no speed limits,no state certification every year,no governors and make life and death decisions in any state of mind/body. Now that I drive TT for an hour between cities, they give me all kinds of bs red tape,random drug tests, physicals,etc... Someone let the politicians walk all over truckers.
Seems pretty messed up to me! The trucking industry is so overregulated.
As an ex cop, you don't any tickets though, right?
It’s unbelievable
It's the insurance company lobbying
True 100%
A driver unplugging their logs is not worth it. Cuz what if something happens, the driver would be screwed. Also I was delivering this morning and there was a driver going like 2 mph. So he wouldn't trip his logs. Just saying that's embarrassing. I hate seeing that, cuz I feel sorry for them. I drove past him obviously, cuz paper. And he was an owner operator, with a pretty nice Classic. Ah man what's going on in trucking!?! Also my brother started driving a truck recently. I tried to talk him out of it, but it didn't work. But luckily he's got his head on straight. He will be going to something more local. As of currently. I'm giving him pointers and advice when he calls. Especially with those elogs. Cuz he does run outta time on occasion, unforeseen events and what not. Planning only gets ya so far. His enthusiasm is mind boggling. Obviously a driver has to be numb to a lot of things to make trucking work these days.
I do the same at 4mph but 5pmh trip the log
Probably ran out of DEF LOL
Wouldn't be so bad if the drive line kicked in at 15 instead of 5.
I wonder what the safety dept said when they saw me drive 700 miles on a personal convenience move!.....lol
Were you empty? Lol
@@dexx13mh Nope I had a full load....lol... I was around 76k
it may come as a surprise to you, but in the US - with the most recent changes to the rules - there is no distance limit for your loaded or empty "PUC/Personal-Use Conveyance" move.......EXCEPT, that you must return to the same location where you began the PUC move, before you go back on-duty! So, if you ran 700 miles in PUC-mode, that means 350 miles one-way and another 350 miles back to the start line....more power to you, but you just wasted the equivalent in fuel for nought ;-(
On the other hand, I would not recommend to do that kind of distance in PUC-mode while in Canada: here we are limited to 75 km/day (46.8 miles), and you must be either in bob-tail mode or in an empty box-truck.
@@andrep8287 It may come to a surprise to YOU but imma Outlaw.... I ran from Utah to California fully loaded and fresh outta hours back to my state. There was no round trip! I did what I did with a full load, signed bill of lading and an I don't give a fuck attitude!....I've wasted nothing but time breaking it down for your slow azz!
KNGPIN GANGSTA And when you get in an accident, even if it’s not your fault, you’re going to get everything taken from you in a lawsuit and sent to prison.
You can cheat all you want.....but if you're ever in an accident and someone dies, kiss your life goodbye 👋 🎶
Usually the case anyway, sure it will be worse when they prove falsification.
Your life is gone if it's your fault even if your logs are accurate. Ijs.
@@bblaam27 It will affect the degree of manslaughter, and the resulting sentence . So prison sentence or not can be the diff. with proven falsification
Is it any different if you fudged your logs on paper? If done right, it’ll just look like you got into an accident running legally.
@@OneHonestCritic Don't know if you were asking me, but paper, electronic, either one matters, if they PROVE falsification, the charges and sentence is worse. With a death the legal team will pull out all stops to prove falsification, scales, tolls, traffic cams etc...better line up with the paper fudggin...and it does not have to be falsification on THAT specific day either. I know a driver that got prison sentence for exactly this, so I am not just bs you.
You still have to account for the mileage.
He did 200MPH from point A to B and will get a speeding ticket under todays auditing system for it. That will result in loss of CDL as well.
Throw it out the window while your driving and say she's gone
Leonardo Hitchcock that dude was hilarious 😂😂😂
I spent 13 years running big trucks back and forth across this great nation of ours. The vast majority of that time was pulling reefers. After two major crashes, I finally got tired of being forced to run too farm too fast, and in too short a time. It is virtually impossible to keep track of three or four log books when you are physically and mentally exhausted.
I ran e-logs for a short time after my retirement, as a fill in driver. There are some disadvantages, such as running out of hours 50 miles from home. But It was so great being able to run legally. When I reached point B, I was rested, and not so jangled that I couldn't even remember my name. (30 hours without sleep will do that to you, and I don't take pills)
As an employed, paid by the mile driver, e-logs are just alright with me.
The ELD is actually easier to cheat then the AOELD was. But we don't want to share how because then it would come to an end. The bigger issue is say you park at 4 am on a on ramp into a full rest area knowing a lot of drivers will leave around 5 am and open up some free spots so you can do your 10. well not no more now your stuck on the ramp to get a ticket because if you move 5 to 10 feet they go on the drive line and create a violation of hours of service. you cant even do a yard move without losing your time. Same in a truck stop lot your stuck in the way you cant shower comeback and park. That's all this system does. it strand drivers so they can write more tickets.. so yes we have to find ways to do our job and avoid them tickets. There is a whole slew of other issues this change has brought up by pencil pushers..
So your the one that used to park in the fuel island while showering.
Wayne Roark If you driving slower then 5mph ELD will not trigger driving time
Use Personal conveyance - it's literally the exact reason for that special status.
Someone said there's no need to worry about things you cannot change and no need to worry about things you can...
Would only work if you’re a true owner operator and You’re your own safety department
Nope, that exception information is transmitted to DOT during inspection.
LOL....Those Goobers (Gooberment) got you by your balls! like a child, those Goobers will get you and punish you for disobeying their orders/rules.....they got all truckers by the balls!
I found out on keep trucking if you go under no vehicle you can drive as long as you want and the GPS wont be active but you gotta come back to the same spot or close enough to go back under your vehicle number and itll show like you never left that spot
Good video. There are multiple drivers that brag about unplugging their ELD when they want to use the truck for personal use, instead of just logging PC.
@Chin Brumback Too many of these new guys that think the rules don't apply to them.
@Chin Brumback There is no federal limit on how far you can use PC for. That is up to each individual company. US Express allows 50 miles. Some companies don't allow PC at all. Then there are O/O that use it to go home after they are empty, which is illegal. On one of Jack's earlier videos, he talked about one of their drivers that used PC to go to a truck stop, when he was told he could not park on the receivers lot over night. That is legal. But DOT wrote him up because he did not go to the nearest truck stop. He went to the next one down the road. There is more to that story, but that is the jist of what some drivers do or don't do.
@Chin Brumback It depends on what you used PC for. If you are sitting at a truck stop and use PC to go to Walmart, the movies, the gym, your girlfriend's, then yes you must return to your starting point of the PC. If you are at a shipper/receiver and run out of hours and they won't let you park there for your 10 hour break or you are parked on an off/on ramp and law enforcement instructs you to move, then you can use PC to move to "the closest safe place to park". That is even if it is going in the wrong direction of your planned trip. Then after your 10 hour break, you proceed from that point of safe parking.
@@happypappy6371 meanwhile children waiting for the shipment of grain to hit the docks so the boat can bring it to their third world country starve to death cruelly and helplessly all in the name of safety
On the keep trucking app every time you disconnect it from the truck it registers that in. Dot can see it when they did an audit on mine they found every single time I disconnected
What ended up happening ole trucka
@@User37717 luckily he was lenient he grilled me for about an hour then told me all the tickets in the stuff that he can do to my company and said next time it better not be this way ....I chuckled he chuckled and he gave me a weird look and I said yes sir it will not happen again....
I watched this for 12 mins just for u to say naw u can’t do it
G M lmao right?!
His voice is better than any sleeping pills
He’s a Asshole
Spoiler alert.
I did that a few times but when i got my audit. the dot found it, the eld registers it as a disconnect. they will find it because they download your data file and run it through their system. he gave me slap on the hand and said too many of them will put you out of service lol.
Paper logs,or ELD my husband still made the same miles everyday.. he started at the same time, and ended at the same time everyday. He started at 5am at some truck stop pick up a load a run for 5.5hrs take a break, then run 5.5 more and be done for the day at 645pm
Your husband is local driver. Other guys work much harder than your husband (doing Over The Road) and do not have time for waist. That is why ELD is not good solution.
He drives OTR for a company out of grand rapids, He was driving for a company that hauled freight out of buffalo to Idaho every week.
@@rebekahbrundage3509 that is mean that he is company driver and that makes difference. He doesn't care about wasting time waiting for brokers to get a load etc. I am owner operator OTR and things are much different than with your husband.
My wife works on the tech business. She did something on my sonar system logs and now i can drive while i'm off duty or sleeping i can do changes while I'm driving. 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍
not good the feds get paid to fuck the driver even if he runs legally
Im interested
What a great demonstration this was, for those drivers that have wondered about this. I'm not a trucker (although I did consider it in my younger years) but, I wouldn't want to be trucker now, in today's world of 'no privacy'. Thanks for the great videos.
Good thinking, trucking is not worth it. No privacy, no freedom. And a driver having to resort to gauging their pride based on how much of a professional sheep they can be is just sad.
What about the difference in the mileage
Very interesting video to say the least. You are absolutely right about drivers needing to do pre-trip. Chances are you will catch something before it becomes an issue. I used to drive
and my wife currently drives long haul for local company. Keep up the good work.
what I was thinking about unplugging the speedometer but I don’t know if the def would be a problem
you can use personal conveyance to move around a truck stop and to drive to a truck stop. You can be fully loaded and use personal conveyance. If you get to a city on friday and dont unload until monday, you can drive around on personal conveyance from store to store or wherever.
...correct, as long as you return to the exact location where you began your PUC period. Also, don't forget to still conduct a DVI (Daily Vehicle Inspection), because the one you did while still "on-the-clock" expires after 24-hours.
Interesting video Jack, we appreciate your taking us along!
Your the feds
This is good to watch for the people who actually believe they can get away with shit like this... and then they're in shock when DOT shuts them down for falsifying logs.
On another note though: To me the e-log restrictions are absolutely criminal in nature. Whoever came up with all of those income reducing/time wasting laws and regulations should receive life in prison without parole.
You sound like your actually in favor of the redcoats? I mean DOT officers ? You can lick their boots all your want son they own you once you plug in that ELD I’m a grown man I decide when I’m tired and how long I need to sleep I don’t need the government to do that for me it’s illegal it violates the 4th amendment
I don’t mind running the ELD’s but the only thing that sucks is if for instance bad weather like a snow storm is coming your way and you are on your break at a truck stop obviously you would like to leave and get away from the snowstorm before it comes , Instead of just sitting at the truck stop on your break like a bump on a log . I would run according to my sleep clock and according to the weather but these days you can’t do that unfortunately.
Wish it would go back to paper the only time people can really give their family half of what they want!
I can see why people get frustrated with logs but on the other hand if you cant make a living doing 14 hour days, you really need a different job.
Paying drivers by the hour would solve a lot of the problems.
Paying by the hour would need to be 70×$25= 1750 gross a week if you work 5 days 14 hours a day ....OTR or 20$ an hour locally at least 60 hrs
Jack you old double clutcher you, this video was just a warning to your drivers that you will know if they try to cheat you & your company😊😊
Also, when Mr. DOT looks at logs during roadside, he also sees unidentified driving as well. And will note on inspection report accordingly.
Lol you can reject those
I’ve never used anything but loose leaf paper logs. I quit driving 10 years ago and never used E logs before. I’m thinking about going back to driving but I dunno how I could get anything done with those e logs 🤦♂️. If I lost 4 hours trying to get loaded back then I could just log it as off duty and mark 15 mins loading and save all that time. Or if it took 4 hours to get somewhere that should only take 2 hours I could log it as 2 hours and get back the other 2 hours. But these e logs ???? I have no clue
Is there a way to put the hours waiting to be load towards resting time? Cus technically that is what u do when all u have is to wait. But somehow that wait time or lost time is included in the driving time. That is where I see it as a disadvantage and a steal.
So it boils down can’t cheat on your electronic logs cause you still will get caught but when a shipper or a receiver holds a driver up for long periods of time to load or unload and then you can’t stop the 14 hour clock and run out of time and they want you off their property but no time to drive to a safe place to park cause every truck stop is full for a hundred miles then what does a driver do
That is when you are allowed to use Personal Conveyance to drive to the "closest safe place", even if it is in the wrong direction.
Some truckers seem to forget that there not the only ones on the rd. They have rules that are not pointed at one individual but them all. Yes not everyone's sleep patterns are the same but out of all reality is it worth screwing around with ur logs. My family all drive on major hwy and would like to know that all truckers are well rested and following the rules so that there safe as well as everyone else that's driving on are roads.
I always chuckle when I hear someone talk about the government doing this to us. If the insurance and trucking industry didn't want it to happen, the change to E-logs would never have happened. They would have just slipped the politicians a few more bucks and voilà, status quo. The perception of rouge truckers, sleepy truckers, and accident causing truckers on the road along with some real life million dollar law suits against trucking companies brought about the regulation changes. IMHO
Besides the fact of multi million dollar accidents...and other negative aspects related !....If YOU dont think the fmcsa is in bed with our CORRUPT ass goverment in order to control the flow of revenue in their favor...then YOU sir are just as naive !!! Keep on "CHUCKLIN" !
That is x-actly how it works. The fat cats control everything. If you want to find who they are, just take note of who's ultimately profits from economic downturns.
Recessions never happen by accident.
Insurance and trucking companies wouldn't be able to pull this shit if it weren't for the government going along with their crap.
@@CIorox_BIeach Yep, that's what I said.
Companies nowadays must schedule driver's loads to be picked up, driven to the consignee while allowing for all the mandatory stops according to the law, and still arrive at the receiver ON TIME. When I drove OTR in the 70's and 80's, if you didn't break all the driving laws, every load you pulled would have been delivered LATE - and for that, a driver would be fired if it happened more than once.
Hello - Can you log in as someone else to bypass?
The ELD use the abs tone rings to turn on your reading, disconnect the abs sensor and see if the ELD can read your speed.
Say word
Loved the angel music once you plugged the ELD back in :-)
What if you had an accident during the log book unplugged?
He'd be in deep poo-poo!!!
Then your arse would be in a sling most of all if it was a fatality.
but he wasn't in any trouble really being with in his 100 mile radius
Different models can be tricked. If it is hardwired into system they put a tiny fuse hidden in fuse area that ties the system in. If you remove that extra fuse it is still powered up but no longer reads truck is moving. You can drive all day and it leaves you at off duty. Follow the wires but only works on hardwired systems
just run a pre emission truck
Not in California I’m telling you that rn 😂
i just started my authority fod interstate...can i run off paper or phone till my device comes in
@@conorpiuma88 no if you crossing federal lines you mush have a full compliance elog authorized by the fmcsa
Actually, you mean “pre-electronic”. 1999 is the cutoff. There aren’t that many people who can deal with a truck that old, unless you can get yourself one of the remaining gliders out there.
Ok so what if you get to California and it shows your at the food lion 10 min ago and now you 1500 miles away in 10min?
No matter what ELD you have or your company uses no matter how you unhook it you will always show miles without hours. So you will have to show or have proof of where the miles came from
So how would you explain the jump in miles?
Didn't watch the whole video, DID YA?
Can't they compare the mileage from your eld to your truck??
Really good to see you out and about jack. Have a super weekend and keep cool.
Can d.o.t see the disconnect? 🤔 when they transferred your logs
Go to the dot mode! Look at all the info they get, it even shows when you log out and log in, it shows when you start and stop the engine, and it also shows some "int location" data
The DOT inspections side of the app will indicate there had been a disconnect. They will also see a discrepancy in miles and odometer readings. Or is short You've hidden nothing and will get caught. One interesting point of interest, however. After checking out my speedometer censer (at back of transmission) I forgot to plug back in and started driving. I had only driven about 3 miles before noticing that not only was my speedometer not working but my that my ELD also had not kicked me into "on duty driving." Got under the truck and plugged the censor back in and all went back to working as usual. I didn't ever go back to experiment cheating in such a way, but found it interesting none the less.
Can we still use paper log book ?
If you got caught doing this what would you say to a 0 tolerance fine?
How will you match your odometer (36 miles driven) with your e logs?
I’m going to be a truck driving what your advice to me?
It is still a great choice for a career but changing rapidly. HURRY! :-)
You will get caught every time which ensures more DOT Inspector jobs, you're just screwing yourself every which way.
In my neck of the woods. I live in dalton Chatsworth area. Good ole Dalton trailer been there before with the same outcome you had rejected repairs
The problem with attempting to Cheat the system is when you get caughtm it is Big trouble with your employer and DOT. Bad News for the Driver! 🙄
Really? It's just a small fine in Canada, a few hundred dollars. No big deal.
@@allanj4576 Well Peter, here in the good ole U.S. of A. we {Truckers} are treated like children by the Gooberment, and let me tell ya, if you disobey those Goobers they will fuck your life up or at least your driving career....Goobers rule with a iron fist here!!!
@@allanj4576 here inj the us the treat you as a murder
How many traffic cameras did you pass? Im guessing at least one
Indiana Jack the GPS won't let you start a a different location. RIGHT? I noticed you had to go back to the food lion.
I have been looking at getting back in to trucking. I stopped in 1998. I used to run dual log books. Is there a way to do that with the electronic system or is that now impossible? At least, back then, it was impossible to make money without running multiple logbooks. These were the kind that yyou used pencil to fill out. You older guys know what Im talking about. Any help would be super appreciated! Thanks.
2000 or newer has to have the bs eld
Erods is the federal program that they use and they can see the same thing. A good inspector will see the compression.
Good video, And remember a truck driver always has enough hours to get himself home but never enough hours to do something for dispatch that he doesn't want to do. Cheating on log books.
What does this mean
You’re an idiot… makes no sense at all you reject
When you reconected the software on the phone should have offered you the opportunity to accept or reject the disconected drive time; you know just in case a screw came loose or you had a faulty plug, also to let the driver save face and find out in the truck they got away with nothing
If you go into dot inspection mode it’s going to show your miles don’t match when you stop starting driving
Jack; Do you have any blooper reels you could string together for a video?
What about unplugging the road speed sensor?
That wouldn't work neither because my truck was towed before and it still triggered my elog. They must use gps idk? Try it though just 4 the hell of it it may work?
Electronic logging is infallible. I was one of the first safety managers to use electronic logs in 1990-1991.
Rockwell’s Tripmaster, Xata, Cadec had to build fail safes to catch any cheating by drivers. I went to work for Rockwell in 1996 traveling and training. I was asked by companies like Sysco & Shell to verify a driver’s claim or support and explain the electronic log. It’s been so long now that I only worked with the 60 - 70 hours of service..
Don’t mess with it. You’ll never know when DOT wants to audit your files. (The company’s files)
Everything is fallible you just have to figure it out, like the voting debacle in 2020.
Keep Trucking logs use a 5 pin adapter and directly link to the ECM... the odometer will roll over plus the ECM hour meter... these are easily accessible as information to bust you cheating...
Hey, you still gone have to take a 10 in 14 hrs due to you started your pretrip when you did . If you wouldn't have took your or logged your pretrip . If your getting paid for it you have to log it unless your trying to get to a safe place to park with PC !
What about the differences in mileage? Logs vs truck odometer????
Are all eld’s a little box on the dash?
I know someone who works for a local company within the state he’s in. The truck is ELD equipped and his boss tell him to disconnect because he’s always within his 100 nautical miles and not required to have elogs. What can happen if they’re audited by the DOT? Anyone......
What the Name of "Electronica Music"?
And then you get into an accident end up killing somebody it’s not your fault at all then an investigation starts and you go to prison don’t do this guys
In my company if I disconnect the elog I get fired immediately
If that's true, how do they know it wasn't an electrical failure? They do fail sometimes. That's why we are required to carry a log book.
We are supposed to notify our safety manager as soon as we notice that it’s failing. We certainly can’t drive until they authorize us to do so.
@@C_Tovar_503 yes, but I've had them fail and didn't know. It depends on what the failure is. If it gues black, then it's obvious, but a communication failure may never be noticed. To me trucking jobs have been a dime a dozen, I've quit, been fired and just vanished from one. Another job was ready for me a few days after I started looking. So I never really cared about their rules. I'll comply with the laws, but threats of a trucking company are right down there with a pissed off 711 clerk.
What ELD program are you using?
GPS jammer?
Aluminum foil?
Well you can buy a 2000 year model truck I heard and run paper logs or put a 2000 motor in a truck and run paper logs
Never had to use an eld but I hear alot of remarks about the driver can't really control their schedule say in the event of hours of bumper to bumper traffic like you can a paper log. (Hard to believe the driver can't choose to stop somewhere and take the rest time during an event like that) but it Seems like it would really help keep track of things like the milage per state for IFTA.
Weather someone likes the ELD or not, trucks are being overly regulated again. What do y'all think of this new mandatory CDL "college course" they are putting into affect come February 7th?
you can do 2 things in bumper to bumper traffic...
if your going under 5mph you can switch to on or off duty which saves your drive time...Ive done this for an hour and it reset my break clock...
or you can go into split log mode if you take 2 hours consecutively off....but then at the end of your shift you will have go into sleeper berth for 8 hours minimum....
split logs make everything so much easier
you can waste 8 hours at a delivery or pick up on off duty unloading or loading in the notes......then get all that time back when you begin to drive.
keep truckin even has a split log clock that keeps track of your hours
I guess only drivers view these pages. 😒😒😒🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
If there was an accident driver would be fined then company fined for letting it happen then driver loses his job is it worth it?? Going to jail for accident while eld is unplugged? Only you can make that decision
Many drivers perform pre-trip inspections from the drivers seat or the sleeper. Some companies require a video of the inspection after they found out that drivers weren't doing inspections. The location marked and time stamped video is sent to the home office.
The company supplies you the camera?
You can’t perform a legal pre trip holding a camera
@@philfredericks5198 They make chest mounts for cameras, cell phones and tablets.
When you send your information to ERODS at the roadside, it will catch the odometer skip in a heartbeat. When you send your log it sends all the details of your log, satellite and ECM data. I can't say for sure, but every ELD system I've used has an odometer skip report. I run HOS violations, PC, unassigned driving and odometer skips for my fleet every day.
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Ah the good old days of paper logs.....! Good video Jack, there's just no way around it.......YET!
Mhmm open road tolling I'm sure somewhere partially keeps an eye on hours since it's run by the state
@@MetalMusicManiac true, can't take a leak without someone watchin'...
Few years back. Police had shoot out with guys pulled robbery killed Husband & Wife many states away. I think local news media screw up. This a little small country area very low Pop..150+ miles any big town, They had already License Plate reader camera's on 4-lane they reported Police was waiting on them and knew they was keep coming there way. You watched more than you think.
I am wondering if DOT officers ask you email or fax your elog. Which one he will get ?
Is Indiana Jack still with travel Loco
What Jack does not mention is dispatch being able to edit logs but not the driver. The other main issue is having to move really slow around the parking lot. For example the other driver decides to park his trailer clear across the truck stop and refuses to move it close. So you 3mph in your bobtail to keep from going on duty driving during your break across the truck stop. It's currently set up for the company to work you to the max and set all the fault on the driver for insurance purposes. Meanwhile the authorities are endlessly chanting "safety" but dispatch has you working during your break. So it's right back to how it was when I started driving back in 1998 - NO SLEEP!
Now with a new ELDs we cannot do any editing.
DOT Officers taking notes 📝🧐🤣
You have to watch out for the dispatchers in your own company too, because they will gladly feck you over to get a load picked up or delivered on time, even if you dont have the hours to do it.
When I was a new driver, on paper logs, they would say things like, "Are you sure you don't have 2 more hrs available for this trip? Why don't you check your hours a little closer, maybe you made a mistake somewhere." They were careful not to just come out and say cheat them, but it was obvious that is what they wanted. I did it the first time or two, til older, wiser drivers smartened me up a little bit. The tickets you could get for getting caught, or God forbid you got in an accident, were nowhere near worth it.
Even after we went on e-logs, I had dispatchers claim they could make an adjustment on my logs from the office to get me an extra hour or two. No idea if they could really do it without it showing up SOME where, but I always told them no, I would only run legal. They aren't the ones who could lose their jobs or even their freedom if something went wrong.
Some companies may have a safe guard in place if someone unplug it may set off a something in the company office
Do you have your own authority?
How do you reset you duty?
but what you don't know is that the software alerts the supervisor how many miles your ELD Run Disconect
No it doesn't!!
Do you have the latest new pplnet. The new system I cant move not even 1 foot.
So far if you in the SB I manage to move 30 yards without switching to driving
We have omnitracs. Its 10mpd 2mins atm. Once December comes. It will change to 5mph and 300 yards unless on yard move.
If your eld fails for unforseen reasons, you have 6 days to back it up with paper logs.
With a letter from your company or provider explaining what’s wrong with it. Easier to just run it. It allows me to work harder than I really want to.
Why did you lament at the end? This video you made, was excellent! Very informative! Are you a 'less government' thinker? Your Government wants less exhausted 'Professional' drivers being SAFE OTR. You must know about the horrific tragedies out there on drivers for a number of reasons pushing too hard or cheating the system. Let's be safe out there, first! Move forward!
20,000 people die every day of starvation. Kinda dwarfs truck accidents. Their is always something you lose when you mitigate risk. So risk management is the key. In my opinion if that trucker wants to hall that load an extra couple hours so he can drop off some grain at a dock that will help those starrving then its all worth it.....but some people only see the tradgedy they want to see.
Just get a eld check from a CHP and they know I disconnected the samsara device I was unloading and disconnected because sometime they want to move fast after they unloading you. I
what happened to do it the right way?
Very good video and thank you for saying it’s all about safety !!! That’s what is really important !!!
Odometer? GPS position?