Correction Jommy knew he was heading to his death in the end. He didnt even show up armed to the spot where Nucky said he had Manny. Even told Richard to stay behind
I really feel that the JImmy character had simply become tired and not even the son he loved could keep his soul alive. Gretchen Mol was absolute excellent as the broken narcisistic and very damaged woman.
Grooming wasn't exclusively a negative thing. Now days you only hear the bad ways. But education and mentor ship, even manners are all examples of grooming ( and teaching a boy to shave, literal grooming) Has fuck all to do with your comment, i just have pet peeves about use of words
Jimmy's downfall had several factors: 1). Him not sitting down with Nukky and working through what happened to Gillian. 2). Him not paying off Manny. It just made one more person set to get him. He'd wanted to beat Nukky, but he really wasn't comfortable being the new king.
It seemed everyone wanted Jimmy to be the king but Jimmy. So a lot what happened was Jimmy taking actions he NEVER felt a 100% about. He did have negative feelings for Nucky and The Commodore but NEVER chose to move against them all the way since he had way too many chances to kill them but he NEVER did until he felt he had no choice. Nucky felt more like a father than the Commodore and Jimmy harbored resentment for them both. It's tragic because all the people he loved were corrupted and placed constant pressure upon him to react to bad situations over and over again. He was smart and ruthless but not meant to be number one, and truthfully if Nucky and The Commodore gave him more room and responsibilities and paid him correctly a lot of these situations could've been avoided. From the 1st time we meet Jimmy his sole purpose is taking care of his family aka providing a way to a better life.
I think we can all agree Gillian was a boy mom. Her's and Jimmy's relationship was so oedipal. I guess the more correct term was Jocosta complex. I feel like she was the one more in love with him, but he definitely had a love for her that was not healthy.
Bro I've just binged like 4 or 5 of your videos this morning and I gotta say, you're analysis of the characters in the series is spectacular! I can't wait to start checking out your other videos!
It literally broke my heart when he got whacked. He was looking for a way to get deleted somehow. He couldn’t live with himself after having seggs with his mother. I think he was hoping to die in the war, but it didn’t happen. He couldn’t just commit self deletion so he was hoping it would happen by way of gangsters or lawmen. Just my opinion. ☮️
Jimmy mistook Nuckys preference strategy and resolving things for weakness. Which is why when he was killed he tries to project fear or uncertainty about killing onto Nucky and nucky straight up let’s him know “I’m not like you”
Jimmy knew he was marching towards his death. It's why he spent the time with Tommy, left his medals behind, told Richard to stay home, and went unarmed. He knew he played it wrong and that it was his only way out.
a few things important.. 1 the reason there was tension from the beginning between Nucky and Jimmy was because Nucky wanted jimmy to have an education so he could take his place, when jimmy comes to ask a job nucky saiys something like "i already gave you chance by paying for college and what do you do you run off to war." 2 The main reason he ran from college was because of the night he had with his mother and making Angela pregnant.. ! Also i think if the War F*ed Jimmy up .. the end when you see the last shots of the trenches , it show he was already dead when he came back , and the lifestyle didn't help .
Lol yeah Eli was a shitty brother and ironically Jimmy telling Nucky he can’t be “half a gangster” only convinced him to go full gangster when he killed him.
Gillian’s issues all began with the underage abuse she received from the Commodore. In turn, she abused her son Jimmy when he grew up. It then lead her to being a prostitute. Very sad story, but when put together it made sense
And her resentment towards Nucky caused her to convince her son to turn on him. Then she unsuccessfully tries to get him to kill Nucky, which led to Jimmy’s end. The fallout from that caused chaos and multiple deaths…
I think Jimmy knew he had lost the war against Nucky throughout the entire season 2 finale. When he asked Nucky what could he do to help, I think he really would have done anything. I think Jimmy knew there was no way he was going to be forgiven (like Richard said), so he might as well do whatever he could before his inevitable death. Everything he did in the finale was basically him settling his affairs. He ripped up the Commodore's will once it was confirmed Tommy would get the house, he gave Chalky extra money and delivered the klan members, took Tommy on a peaceful pony ride and gave him his tags, had a drink with Richard asking him to stay behind, and showed up to the final meeting unarmed. Jimmy knew it was over and he accepted that. Like Richard said in season 3, "Jimmy was a soldier. He fought. He lost".
I have to say how bizarre it was for Jimmy and Angela to let Gillian babysit Tommy. Gillian said to Angela she used to kiss Jimmy's winkie when she was changing him. How inappropriate!😮😮
Jimmy was the most complex character on the show, even from the first scene I seen I can sense their was something brewing inside him. It seems like he could never truly be happy its like he just went through the motions like he knew how normal people are supposed to act and he does act normal but it didn’t seem natural!! It was sad when he died but we knew there was no way he could go on living.
He let his mom seduce him. Could you live with yourself after that ??? Just my opinion. The Dormadys make me want to cry. The whole family was devoured by bad circumstances and ruthless people. That includes Angela and Tommy. Tommy was for sure gonna do a bid for m😵rder if he didn’t get a death sentence. 😔😢
I felt so bad for Jimmy throughout the story man. I never felt he was a bad person, just an extremely troubled soul. Having been raised by a possessive and incestuous mother, to going overseas and going through the literal hell that was the Great War, it's impressive that he wasn't completely insane when he came back. Add to that that his wife kept cheating on him with other women. The man just could not catch a break.
[clapping] Bravo, excellent video. Jimmy's message to Nucky the moment before the assassination attempt had me really confused too. The only thing I could think of was the serious awkwardness Michael Pitt communicated through his awesome acting when Eli put him on the spot during that conspiracy meeting they had with Al and Lucky.
Hmmm it’s debatable whether she was actually the one poisoning him. Jimmy confronts Gillian with a can of poison and she had been visiting the commodore multiple times before he got sick and he tells her he understands. It’s possible they paid off Luann to take the fall cuz she hated working for the commodore and Nucky would’ve guaranteed she’d get no jail time.
To be fair, Al had been losing respect for Jimmy over the course of the season due to his poor decision making, and his wife was publicly shown being unfaithful (Jimmy was too I know) so that’s not gonna get a lot of sympathy from someone like him.
I dont care about jillians past it no excuse for assualting her son, treating richard like a non person, wanting to make life like Angela never existed, and emotionally scared Tommy. Although for the last one it takes a village but i digress. I dont care for Gilliean and she shoulda stayed in jail.
Well she did stay as far as we know, and she did kill Roger who was seemingly just some random innocent guy and she tried to get Gyp to kill Nucky which caused the bombing at Babettes. She was a dangerous and unstable woman and needed to be contained.
greatest commentary and video you've done out of all the boardwalk empire videos my dude oh my god when you make the video about gillian we all know thats gonna be super depressing the tragedy of gillian darmody.would be a good title. Theres some other new video request ive been thinking of 1. the rise of al capone lucky luciano and meyer lansky 2. the shocking survivor Eli Thompson. 3.the best villians of boardwalk empire its hard to tell where i would rank gillian as the most evil person alongside Dr. Narcisse, The Commodore ,and Gyp Rosetti.
Thank you for the positive words brotha. You literally took ideas outta my head man. Vudeo im working on now is the rise if Al Capone. I appreciate all the input and support. Have a good holiday my friend
Gillian was mistreated as a child but she was a force of evil the rest of her life. She pushed Jimmy into a position where he was way over his head. She came in between Angela and her son Tommy. Jillian kissing Jimmy’s private part when he was a baby is disturbing. She also eventually poisoned Tommy’s mind as he grew up and was taken under Nucky’s protection. He eventually shoots a surprised Nucky in his face while on the boardwalk.
I think Jimmy said what he said to Nucky before the hit as a way of saying sorry for what's about to happen. He doesn't know if it's right. He doesn't know if it's wrong, but he had to make a decision. You can see Jimmy's pained look as he walk away from the shooting.
You can see him throughout the episode wracked with guilt and uncertainty over it. And Gillian tried to convince him to go through with it because she wanted him dead, but despite everything deep down he still loved Nucky and didn’t want that for him.
Every time i started despising Gillian. And her actions. I’d remind myself of how every adult she trusted as a child? Betrayed her. In the worse possible ways imaginable! And cut her some slack.
Sorry i refuse she lost all sympathy from me when we saw what she did to her own son. Jimmy may have died in the trenches but Gilian more or less drove him there in a nice little mini-van.
It’s a valid point, she garners sympathy and Nucky is a bastard for what he did. At the same time it doesn’t excuse her killing innocent people, inflicting abuse on her own son, and dealing with her trauma in a singularly unhealthy way.
These videos are great! Thanks! One important note though: It was *Gillian* that poisoned the commodore- his maid took the wrap for it. That’s why Nucky pays her off & tells her to leave town. Jimmy finds the poison & confronts his mom about it. It’s 100% Gillian that poisoned him. EDIT: I just googled it to find the episode where Jimmy confronts his mom about the arsenic, and apparently it WAS the maid??!? I don’t understand! Why did jimmy confront Gillian with the can of arsenic?! Apologies for my correction! I obviously missed something…
25:10 - He was telling Nucky that he had to choose to kill Jimmy or not. But he couldn't be half a gangster anymore. And the shooting was telling Nucky he HAD to make a decision now.
gillian was jealous of angelah because she was in love with jimmy and wanted him all to herself. gillian had moments of clarity but she knew that she wasn't as smart as she wanted to be. she eventually just gave into her downfall and allowed it to ruin her.
And it extended to Tommy as well, she tried to purposefully make sure Tommy forgets Angela, gets mad at Richard when he doesn’t allow it, then grows hypocritically grows fearful Tommy will forget her as well.
The first time I watched this show and it got to the scene with jimmy visting his mother for the first time, I seriously thought she was just his side chick. Their dynamic is tragic and sickening.
I think Jimmy said that to Nucky before he was shot cuz he was clarifying that even though he felt bad about the decision to set Nucky up, it was needed in a practical sense to get the opps out of the way. Hopefully, that is the correct reason..??
When Jimmy says to Nucky “you just have to make a decision”. It’s a call back to when Nucky gave Jimmy’s mother to The Commodore. Nucky could have walked away and not gave up his soul on the quest of power. He could have went back home and disappeared into obscurity. However he gave a little girl that trusted him to his boss (king). Knowing that he would have access to power and one day obtain it. In the grand scheme of things right or wrong (on a morality scale), doesn’t factor into ambitious or powerful peoples minds. It’s what is the most logical and beneficial decision to be made.
@LoudnClear VoiceOvers. You've done a tremendous job with those videos man. There's a lot of work in those and it shows. I've watched many of yours recently, the story of The Boogeyman amongst others, was excellent. However, since I heard you say the video I've watched was a remastered, "sanitized" version.... I wanna watch the original 🤷😐 So....??? 🙂
The war with Gyp Rosetti showed Nucky he couldn't be half a gangster. He can't roam around town having people shake his hand while getting people like Jimmy and Eli to do his dirty work. At the end of the season 3 last episode when he refused to acknowledge the man who called his name and then threw his flower on the ground he finally realized that. I think Jimmy has always been sexually attracted to his mother. She was beautiful, only 13 or 14 years older than him. She had bad relationships with men like the Commodore, Nucky and even the man he asked about when she first visited him. So I think he felt he had to be the only good guy and protector in her life. The look he gave her during the party he was watching out for her like a bodyguard. She was a gorgeous lady surrounded by men his teacher tried to take advantage of her he felt he had to be her hero Gillian never had a hero before watching him stand up for her turned her on. I think every time they looked at each other they couldn't help but think about that night.
Could you imagine being a 13-year-old orphan? Having a love for performing in theater. Then while performing the man who runs the whole city shows an interesting you and which you think is because of your abilities. Only to have that man sexually abuse you. That alone is enough to short circuit any adults Mind let alone a 13-year-old. Then shortly after you find out you’re pregnant.
He approached Nucky before he got shot to subliminally let him know that he made the decision to kill him, kinds like letting him know that there's a new "sheriff" (or boss in this case) in town...
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141Though in the scene when Jimmy confronts Gillian about the can of poison the look on her face is one of she just got found out, not confusion. Maybe she and Luann worked together to poison him then they paid her off to take the fall?
Yooooooo that’s harsh but true. I believe he enlisted in the army because he wanted to die in the war. He didn’t tell anyone. He signed up and broke the hell out. 🔊 HE WAS GOING TO PRINCETON UNIVERSITY !! Damn 😔😢
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 Think about this for minute. Every event that was shown with the Darmodys had a ripple effect. The person who was most impacted by this was Tommy, who went on to be Nucky's eventual deleter. If Angela was never unalived, Tommy would never be under Gillian's influence or be set on path that led him to gun down Nucky.
Gillian was an archetypal tragic figure in the Greek tradition. I thought she was just simply a horrible person, until I saw all the hope and innocence in her face when she was 13, and about to be delivered up to a monstrous pedophile. It was truly heartbreaking. I would’ve voted for an acquittal at her trial.
@@matthewriley7826 no it wasn't Gillian, Nucky may have just wanted the problem to disappear, so by paying the maid to go away it made it seem to me like he was behind it. I don't know why he would have rewarded her otherwise.
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I believe Jimmy said you just have to make a decision beacuse that's what he did, he's trying to convince himself that it wasn't a question of moral but of practicallity, to ease his guilt
why are you sugarcoating what happened to Jillian? saying that this woman which was a child at the time was taking advantage of is like saying jaywalking is a felony. what I'm saying is that is ridiculous what happened to this girl was so far beyond being taken advantage of there's almost no words for the depravity that happened to that child. if you watch the show you would realize that although she is probably the most beautiful woman on the show gorgeous perfect body poise charm, she was still childlike she was stunted the actress that played her did such a great job, actually I'm choking up talking about her I've been through a lot of crazy stuff in my life but when I watched her story in the final episode I actually started crying that's how terrible her life was and I understood why she felt like nothing owed her. she was the price of admission for nucky into the Commodores circle nucky actually owes his whole existence his whole political career his whole career advice and in graft, to this one person this one individual. he really did sell his soul that day but he actually sold hers also he sold her soul he sold her innocence and it stunted her growth and development
It’s true, her childhood was tragic, and Nucky was a bastard for what he did to her. But that doesn’t give her a license to kill innocent people, inflict abuse and manipulation on people close to her, it’s just an unhealthy way of dealing with her trauma.
@@matthewriley7826 Don't get me wrong I'm not condoning anything Jillian has done, like she cold-blooded killed that young man in the bathtub and so many other things. on one hand she was a really smart person but on the other hand she was emotionally stunted part of her mind never grew up, but the way they wrote the character it makes you think that if she would have had a different life and if she was born in a different time she would have been a brilliant business person actually she was a good business person. That's one of the things that the show showed, which was how resourceful people were and how smart they were and the actual complexities of running a business it showed gangsters that were just super thugs, but it also showed the intricacies of business they had people like rothstein that was a mathematical genius and he was really good at I guess logistics just all around businessman but then they had Myers landscape and they showed how smart he was but then there were other people that were bootleggers and it showed that they had to have more than a entrepreneur spirit they had to actually have business acumen. Jillian had that but she was not mature it's like she was stunted. anyway saying all of that to say and I'm sorry I got off on a tangent, saying some of the things I said to say that I don't condone her murderous ways she was not a good person and in a court of law that's not an excuse you're upbringing but she really had a tragic beginning a super tragic beginning she just wanted to be a little girl and she was basically not just giving over to the commodore but she was sold to the commodore and the price was admission into the world of politics for nucky.
"Can't be half a gangster" - As a gangster in 1920s America, there was the business side and the violent side. Much like today. Nucky had the business side on LOCK. But he wasn't all-in on the violence side. At least, not personally. Jimmy was suggesting that Nucky would have to participate in the violent side now.
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 Thanks bro. Yeah asked about why Jimmy talked to Nucky before he got shot in the hand. I believe that was just a Jimmy thing. He didn't do it all the time, but enough to let you that his signature in a way. Let's recount;; talked to Liam just before he was got, gave Sheridan his last words, the photographer before beatin' the tar right out of him, one of the Delessio brother's before shooting him in the head, etc, etc. In a small way its like Omar and his whistle. One of my favorite funny moments in the show? Idiotic and arrogant reporter walks into illegal drinking joint, asking Al Capone about Big Jim murder, and if he wishes to make a statement Capone makes that statement; with a bottle across said reporter's head , then proceeds to kick the Sugar Honey Ice Tea right out of him. Torrio comes down and ask what the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge is going on, to which Al replies; I'm makin' my statement. Funny! Keep up the good work!
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 I think that had something to do with Jimmy proving to himself or to anyone that knew of their conflict that Jimmy was willing to put the work in. Jimmy was a literal soldier who was clearly suffering post-war. It made more sense to have someone else kill Nucky especially in front of half of Atlantic City. It would have been impossible for Jimmy to take over the territory having done that. But going up to Nucky was Jimmy saying "if it had to be me pulling the trigger, I could have done it".
Jimmy’s wife Angela was played Aleska Palladino. 🇮🇹+🇺🇸 =🔥🔥🔥😍 No dis to Gretchen Mol 🌹. What Jimmy meant when he told Nucky he couldn’t be a “halfway gangster” was that he (Nucky) had to “get his hands dirty” i.e. commit murder. 💎👉🏾 When Harrow took out Liam in Chicago, it was a “signature k😵ll”. Harrow placed his shot just below Liam’s eye. This is how he (Harrow) took out the German sniper from whom he got the sniper’s mask he kept from the war. Harrow tells this story to Nucky after he took out Gyp’s men at Gillian’s house. 💎👉🏾 Jimmy didn’t want to come back from the war. He wanted to die there because he couldn’t live with himself for allowing his mother to sexually seduce him. 🔊 THAT’S THE REASON BRO. So he kept putting himself in harm’s way hoping to get taken out. 🔊 NEWS FLASH ➡️ Boardwalk Empire has two storylines. One is about the tragic life of Gillian Dormady, her son Jimmy, his son Tommy and her daughter-in-law Angela. They are, in every sense of the word, a family. The second story is that of organised crime during the 1920s and 30s in America. The series deals specifically with bootlegging and how criminals, politicians, and wealthy elites participated together in organised crime. Everyone was in on it. Not just poor Italian, Irish and Jewish immigrants. 💎👉🏾 Gillian was jealous of Angela. Angela had the life Gillian was deprived of by fate/circumstances. Angela got involved with women because she was looking for “safe love”. She was an artist. This means she moved in “progressive free thinking” circles. I don’t think she was 100% a l@sbian. I think she just wanted to be loved and feel stability and safety. Women weren’t running crime families. Men were.
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if jimmy were to talk to angela instead of gillian, i feel it would have solved a lot of problems.
I agree. There was only one time they had a conversation about serious issues.
Unfortunately Gillian and his dad wanted to use him for revenge against Nucky.
Correction Jommy knew he was heading to his death in the end. He didnt even show up armed to the spot where Nucky said he had Manny. Even told Richard to stay behind
He knew when he left his dog tags with Tommy.
Damn man spoiler alert 😂
He wanted it
@aceq361 anyone watching this before they've seen the show is asking for it lol
I really feel that the JImmy character had simply become tired and not even the son he loved could keep his soul alive. Gretchen Mol was absolute excellent as the broken narcisistic and very damaged woman.
Felt so bad for Jimmy, man. He was pretty much groomed by all the adults in his life, and it completely stopped him from having a happy life.
Grooming wasn't exclusively a negative thing. Now days you only hear the bad ways. But education and mentor ship, even manners are all examples of grooming ( and teaching a boy to shave, literal grooming)
Has fuck all to do with your comment, i just have pet peeves about use of words
@@tobe1207 Ok groomer. Happy to oblidge
This is clear, concise, chronological, and comprehensive; solid work.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to watch
Jimmy's downfall had several factors:
1). Him not sitting down with Nukky and working through what happened to Gillian.
2). Him not paying off Manny. It just made one more person set to get him.
He'd wanted to beat Nukky, but he really wasn't comfortable being the new king.
Also he wanted to beat Nucky but he didn’t want to kill him because deep down he still loved him despite all that had happened.
Who's "Nukky"?
It seemed everyone wanted Jimmy to be the king but Jimmy. So a lot what happened was Jimmy taking actions he NEVER felt a 100% about. He did have negative feelings for Nucky and The Commodore but NEVER chose to move against them all the way since he had way too many chances to kill them but he NEVER did until he felt he had no choice. Nucky felt more like a father than the Commodore and Jimmy harbored resentment for them both. It's tragic because all the people he loved were corrupted and placed constant pressure upon him to react to bad situations over and over again. He was smart and ruthless but not meant to be number one, and truthfully if Nucky and The Commodore gave him more room and responsibilities and paid him correctly a lot of these situations could've been avoided. From the 1st time we meet Jimmy his sole purpose is taking care of his family aka providing a way to a better life.
I think we can all agree Gillian was a boy mom. Her's and Jimmy's relationship was so oedipal. I guess the more correct term was Jocosta complex. I feel like she was the one more in love with him, but he definitely had a love for her that was not healthy.
Like Eli said, the whole thing just wasn’t right, thanks for watching
Gillian literally had sex with him, remember?
gillian SA jimmy, she is worse than the avarage boy mom
When Jimmy told Jillian I will remember I think that's everything that she put him through and the love for Angela
Bro I've just binged like 4 or 5 of your videos this morning and I gotta say, you're analysis of the characters in the series is spectacular! I can't wait to start checking out your other videos!
That’s dope man. I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Still missing Jimmy darmody amazing character💔
It literally broke my heart when he got whacked. He was looking for a way to get deleted somehow. He couldn’t live with himself after having seggs with his mother. I think he was hoping to die in the war, but it didn’t happen. He couldn’t just commit self deletion so he was hoping it would happen by way of gangsters or lawmen. Just my opinion. ☮️
I liked the fact that Manny thought that the commodore was a scumbag for being a trophy hunter.
Jimmy mistook Nuckys preference strategy and resolving things for weakness. Which is why when he was killed he tries to project fear or uncertainty about killing onto Nucky and nucky straight up let’s him know “I’m not like you”
Very solid point.👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Jimmy knew he was marching towards his death. It's why he spent the time with Tommy, left his medals behind, told Richard to stay home, and went unarmed. He knew he played it wrong and that it was his only way out.
If only he was less greedy and didn't go around thinking he knew everything
The relationship between Angela and Gillian was just odd. Gillian was such a complex character
a few things important..
1 the reason there was tension from the beginning between Nucky and Jimmy was because Nucky wanted jimmy to have an education so he could take his place, when jimmy comes to ask a job nucky saiys something like "i already gave you chance by paying for college and what do you do you run off to war."
2 The main reason he ran from college was because of the night he had with his mother and making Angela pregnant.. !
Also i think if the War F*ed Jimmy up .. the end when you see the last shots of the trenches , it show he was already dead when he came back , and the lifestyle didn't help .
Eli is pathetic as a brother... and Jimmy thought he knew Nucky but he actually brought the beast outta nucky.....
Lol yeah Eli was a shitty brother and ironically Jimmy telling Nucky he can’t be “half a gangster” only convinced him to go full gangster when he killed him.
Eli is the Fredo of Boardwalk Empire
Gillian’s issues all began with the underage abuse she received from the Commodore. In turn, she abused her son Jimmy when he grew up. It then lead her to being a prostitute. Very sad story, but when put together it made sense
And her resentment towards Nucky caused her to convince her son to turn on him. Then she unsuccessfully tries to get him to kill Nucky, which led to Jimmy’s end. The fallout from that caused chaos and multiple deaths…
chances are that the commodore wasnt even the first. Orphans were severely at risk--especiallly back then.
I think Jimmy knew he had lost the war against Nucky throughout the entire season 2 finale. When he asked Nucky what could he do to help, I think he really would have done anything. I think Jimmy knew there was no way he was going to be forgiven (like Richard said), so he might as well do whatever he could before his inevitable death. Everything he did in the finale was basically him settling his affairs. He ripped up the Commodore's will once it was confirmed Tommy would get the house, he gave Chalky extra money and delivered the klan members, took Tommy on a peaceful pony ride and gave him his tags, had a drink with Richard asking him to stay behind, and showed up to the final meeting unarmed. Jimmy knew it was over and he accepted that.
Like Richard said in season 3, "Jimmy was a soldier. He fought. He lost".
I have to say how bizarre it was for Jimmy and Angela to let Gillian babysit Tommy. Gillian said to Angela she used to kiss Jimmy's winkie when she was changing him. How inappropriate!😮😮
They had sex when Jimmy was in college
Omg I forgot about that
Thank you for discussing this amazing show all these years later
Jimmy was the most complex character on the show, even from the first scene I seen I can sense their was something brewing inside him. It seems like he could never truly be happy its like he just went through the motions like he knew how normal people are supposed to act and he does act normal but it didn’t seem natural!! It was sad when he died but we knew there was no way he could go on living.
He let his mom seduce him. Could you live with yourself after that ???
Just my opinion. The Dormadys make me want to cry. The whole family was devoured by bad circumstances and ruthless people. That includes Angela and Tommy. Tommy was for sure gonna do a bid for m😵rder if he didn’t get a death sentence. 😔😢
I felt so bad for Jimmy throughout the story man. I never felt he was a bad person, just an extremely troubled soul. Having been raised by a possessive and incestuous mother, to going overseas and going through the literal hell that was the Great War, it's impressive that he wasn't completely insane when he came back. Add to that that his wife kept cheating on him with other women. The man just could not catch a break.
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Jimmy's motto
Ain't no such thing as a halfway crook
[clapping] Bravo, excellent video. Jimmy's message to Nucky the moment before the assassination attempt had me really confused too. The only thing I could think of was the serious awkwardness Michael Pitt communicated through his awesome acting when Eli put him on the spot during that conspiracy meeting they had with Al and Lucky.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed my friend🤘🏾🙏🏾
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Buddy, this was *VERY* needed. Thank you for putting this together. 👏🏼
I got you bro. Thank you for watching
Good ass video. 10/10 appreciate what you do. Hopefully more people will talk about Boardwalk Empire
I really appreciate that fam.
LuAnn would have been so rich if she could have dealt with her hatred. He left everything to her in his will.
Hmmm it’s debatable whether she was actually the one poisoning him. Jimmy confronts Gillian with a can of poison and she had been visiting the commodore multiple times before he got sick and he tells her he understands. It’s possible they paid off Luann to take the fall cuz she hated working for the commodore and Nucky would’ve guaranteed she’d get no jail time.
I felt so bad fo Angela death hit me harder then anyone and then Capone made fun of Jimmy about it no loyalty lol
To be fair, Al had been losing respect for Jimmy over the course of the season due to his poor decision making, and his wife was publicly shown being unfaithful (Jimmy was too I know) so that’s not gonna get a lot of sympathy from someone like him.
You're extremely articulate in the way you speak! Refreshing .
I agree. Your carefully stated analysis of all the principle elements is spot on and shows real insight. Keep them coming !
Very calming voice.
Thank you very much, would love to be a narrator on HBO or something one day. Thanks for watching
Absolutely. Thank you for the kind words
I dont care about jillians past it no excuse for assualting her son, treating richard like a non person, wanting to make life like Angela never existed, and emotionally scared Tommy. Although for the last one it takes a village but i digress. I dont care for Gilliean and she shoulda stayed in jail.
Well she did stay as far as we know, and she did kill Roger who was seemingly just some random innocent guy and she tried to get Gyp to kill Nucky which caused the bombing at Babettes. She was a dangerous and unstable woman and needed to be contained.
Solid video btw bro.
I appreciate it fam, thank you
greatest commentary and video you've done out of all the boardwalk empire videos my dude oh my god when you make the video about gillian we all know thats gonna be super depressing the tragedy of gillian darmody.would be a good title. Theres some other new video request ive been thinking of 1. the rise of al capone lucky luciano and meyer lansky 2. the shocking survivor Eli Thompson. 3.the best villians of boardwalk empire its hard to tell where i would rank gillian as the most evil person alongside Dr. Narcisse, The Commodore ,and Gyp Rosetti.
Thank you for the positive words brotha. You literally took ideas outta my head man. Vudeo im working on now is the rise if Al Capone. I appreciate all the input and support. Have a good holiday my friend
Gillian was mistreated as a child but she was a force of evil the rest of her life. She pushed Jimmy into a position where he was way over his head.
She came in between Angela and her son Tommy. Jillian kissing Jimmy’s private part when he was a baby is disturbing. She also eventually poisoned Tommy’s mind as he grew up and was taken under Nucky’s protection. He eventually shoots a surprised Nucky in his face while on the boardwalk.
Do you think Gillian SA jimmy as a baby. I have a weird feeling she might have.
Great video! Interesting characters. If it isn't too late, can you also do one on Al Capone, the Boardwalk version?
Working on a video about Capone now. Thanks for watching
Seems like you really enjoy what you do !!!
Very entertaining ! 🤝
Yessir. It’s all love with Boardwalk Empire. I appreciate you watching fam
I think Jimmy said what he said to Nucky before the hit as a way of saying sorry for what's about to happen. He doesn't know if it's right. He doesn't know if it's wrong, but he had to make a decision. You can see Jimmy's pained look as he walk away from the shooting.
You can see him throughout the episode wracked with guilt and uncertainty over it. And Gillian tried to convince him to go through with it because she wanted him dead, but despite everything deep down he still loved Nucky and didn’t want that for him.
Great work, I really like listening to these Boardwalk videos
Thank you Joe, Have a great holiday my friend
Every time i started despising Gillian. And her actions. I’d remind myself of how every adult she trusted as a child? Betrayed her. In the worse possible ways imaginable! And cut her some slack.
I cut her some slack😂😂
Sorry i refuse she lost all sympathy from me when we saw what she did to her own son. Jimmy may have died in the trenches but Gilian more or less drove him there in a nice little mini-van.
It’s a valid point, she garners sympathy and Nucky is a bastard for what he did. At the same time it doesn’t excuse her killing innocent people, inflicting abuse on her own son, and dealing with her trauma in a singularly unhealthy way.
She's a disgusting pos lol how she got there is irrelevant.
Great commentary on the Darmody family.
Thank you very much, I appreciate you watching👍🏾
"Ain't no such thing as halfway crooks"
"You ain't a crook son. You just a shook one."
"I died in the trench, years back....I thought you knew that Nuc.."
These videos are great! Thanks! One important note though:
It was *Gillian* that poisoned the commodore- his maid took the wrap for it. That’s why Nucky pays her off & tells her to leave town.
Jimmy finds the poison & confronts his mom about it. It’s 100% Gillian that poisoned him.
EDIT: I just googled it to find the episode where Jimmy confronts his mom about the arsenic, and apparently it WAS the maid??!? I don’t understand! Why did jimmy confront Gillian with the can of arsenic?!
Apologies for my correction! I obviously missed something…
25:10 - He was telling Nucky that he had to choose to kill Jimmy or not. But he couldn't be half a gangster anymore.
And the shooting was telling Nucky he HAD to make a decision now.
Fair point. Thanks for watching my friend
I love this show...and your breakdown of these characters!!
He got spooked by some “deer’s” 😂
Hilarious🤣🤣🤣
gillian was jealous of angelah because she was in love with jimmy and wanted him all to herself. gillian had moments of clarity but she knew that she wasn't as smart as she wanted to be. she eventually just gave into her downfall and allowed it to ruin her.
Very interesting point of view. Thanks for watching
And it extended to Tommy as well, she tried to purposefully make sure Tommy forgets Angela, gets mad at Richard when he doesn’t allow it, then grows hypocritically grows fearful Tommy will forget her as well.
The first time I watched this show and it got to the scene with jimmy visting his mother for the first time, I seriously thought she was just his side chick. Their dynamic is tragic and sickening.
If my mom looked like that and was seductive like her id love it🤷
love the way you do these man , keep up the good work
I appreciate your support my friend🫡
I think Jimmy said that to Nucky before he was shot cuz he was clarifying that even though he felt bad about the decision to set Nucky up, it was needed in a practical sense to get the opps out of the way. Hopefully, that is the correct reason..??
Lucky came across her alright 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
More great work loud and clear ❤
Thank you for watching. Have a good new year
When Jimmy says to Nucky “you just have to make a decision”. It’s a call back to when Nucky gave Jimmy’s mother to The Commodore. Nucky could have walked away and not gave up his soul on the quest of power. He could have went back home and disappeared into obscurity. However he gave a little girl that trusted him to his boss (king). Knowing that he would have access to power and one day obtain it. In the grand scheme of things right or wrong (on a morality scale), doesn’t factor into ambitious or powerful peoples minds. It’s what is the most logical and beneficial decision to be made.
@LoudnClear VoiceOvers. You've done a tremendous job with those videos man. There's a lot of work in those and it shows. I've watched many of yours recently, the story of The Boogeyman amongst others, was excellent. However, since I heard you say the video I've watched was a remastered, "sanitized" version.... I wanna watch the original 🤷😐
So....??? 🙂
I appreciate you watching brotha and Im working on my patreon which will most likely feature the original video.
The war with Gyp Rosetti showed Nucky he couldn't be half a gangster. He can't roam around town having people shake his hand while getting people like Jimmy and Eli to do his dirty work. At the end of the season 3 last episode when he refused to acknowledge the man who called his name and then threw his flower on the ground he finally realized that. I think Jimmy has always been sexually attracted to his mother. She was beautiful, only 13 or 14 years older than him. She had bad relationships with men like the Commodore, Nucky and even the man he asked about when she first visited him. So I think he felt he had to be the only good guy and protector in her life. The look he gave her during the party he was watching out for her like a bodyguard. She was a gorgeous lady surrounded by men his teacher tried to take advantage of her he felt he had to be her hero Gillian never had a hero before watching him stand up for her turned her on. I think every time they looked at each other they couldn't help but think about that night.
The relationship between Gillian & Angela was scary. Gillian saw Angela as a rival of sorts
@@missbhavin4phillyAnd tried to make sure Tommy forgot all about her, but Richard wouldn’t allow it. So twisted…
I'm excited for the mickey Doyle documentry.
It's a shame they killed off Jimmy so soon. He was the most interesting character in my opinion.
Yeah
Sad when they go young
Could you imagine being a 13-year-old orphan? Having a love for performing in theater. Then while performing the man who runs the whole city shows an interesting you and which you think is because of your abilities. Only to have that man sexually abuse you. That alone is enough to short circuit any adults Mind let alone a 13-year-old. Then shortly after you find out you’re pregnant.
Excellent video
Glad you enjoyed fam🙏🏾👍🏾
He approached Nucky before he got shot to subliminally let him know that he made the decision to kill him, kinds like letting him know that there's a new "sheriff" (or boss in this case) in town...
I'm excited on the mickey Doyle documentry that's gonna be dope.
Thinking about doing a video for Mickey next. Not sure yet though.
8:57 A natural disaster
Great choice of words in my opinion🤣🤣
That's something that Nukky told him before.
Yow include clips from the show with original Audio
Wasn’t the Commodore being poisoned by Gillian and they paid off the maid to take the blame?
LuAnn confessed. She said she poisened him because if she used a gun she would of had to clean up the mess herself.Thanks for watching
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 true! it was so long ago I had to rewatch it
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141Though in the scene when Jimmy confronts Gillian about the can of poison the look on her face is one of she just got found out, not confusion. Maybe she and Luann worked together to poison him then they paid her off to take the fall?
I thought Killian was poisoning the Commodore. Honestly, dhe has the most reason to want Commodore fead
Jimmy said Nookie wouldn’t kill him because he knows that Nookie looks at him like a son
The script writers must have been on a good one 😊. It does fit Jimmy personality
James 'Jimmy the Motherhumper" Darmody
Yooooooo that’s harsh but true. I believe he enlisted in the army because he wanted to die in the war. He didn’t tell anyone. He signed up and broke the hell out. 🔊 HE WAS GOING TO PRINCETON UNIVERSITY !!
Damn 😔😢
I think if Angela left with Tommy that would’ve changed the whole trajectory of Nucky’s life.
Nucky’s life? How do you think?
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 Think about this for minute. Every event that was shown with the Darmodys had a ripple effect. The person who was most impacted by this was Tommy, who went on to be Nucky's eventual deleter. If Angela was never unalived, Tommy would never be under Gillian's influence or be set on path that led him to gun down Nucky.
Gillian was an archetypal tragic figure in the Greek tradition. I thought she was just simply a horrible person, until I saw all the hope and innocence in her face when she was 13, and about to be delivered up to a monstrous pedophile. It was truly heartbreaking. I would’ve voted for an acquittal at her trial.
I thought nucky was poisoning the commedor, and the maid took the heat over it.
Don’t you mean Gillian? Nucky seemed at peace with him living in his house in retirement.
@@matthewriley7826 no it wasn't Gillian, Nucky may have just wanted the problem to disappear, so by paying the maid to go away it made it seem to me like he was behind it. I don't know why he would have rewarded her otherwise.
Gillian Darmody was a terrible person. But what happened to her as a child was horrible.
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I believe Jimmy said you just have to make a decision beacuse that's what he did, he's trying to convince himself that it wasn't a question of moral but of practicallity, to ease his guilt
If nucky utilized Jimmy,Rich, Eddie and chalkie more. He'd be the man
Even Doyle had more brain.
I think you neutered Richard Harrow’s video. I get it’s about money. But would’ve been cool to keep both up. One age restricted, one not
can you make on video of Jimmy vs Luciano? who was a smart gangster, politically outsmarting, strategist, good at plotting, tough, etc...
more like 10 smartest gangster of the seires that would be badass to see
29:35 A couple of three things
why are you sugarcoating what happened to Jillian? saying that this woman which was a child at the time was taking advantage of is like saying jaywalking is a felony. what I'm saying is that is ridiculous what happened to this girl was so far beyond being taken advantage of there's almost no words for the depravity that happened to that child. if you watch the show you would realize that although she is probably the most beautiful woman on the show gorgeous perfect body poise charm, she was still childlike she was stunted the actress that played her did such a great job, actually I'm choking up talking about her I've been through a lot of crazy stuff in my life but when I watched her story in the final episode I actually started crying that's how terrible her life was and I understood why she felt like nothing owed her. she was the price of admission for nucky into the Commodores circle nucky actually owes his whole existence his whole political career his whole career advice and in graft, to this one person this one individual. he really did sell his soul that day but he actually sold hers also he sold her soul he sold her innocence and it stunted her growth and development
You are insulting Islam and their prophet will this statement.
It’s true, her childhood was tragic, and Nucky was a bastard for what he did to her. But that doesn’t give her a license to kill innocent people, inflict abuse and manipulation on people close to her, it’s just an unhealthy way of dealing with her trauma.
@@matthewriley7826 Don't get me wrong I'm not condoning anything Jillian has done, like she cold-blooded killed that young man in the bathtub and so many other things. on one hand she was a really smart person but on the other hand she was emotionally stunted part of her mind never grew up, but the way they wrote the character it makes you think that if she would have had a different life and if she was born in a different time she would have been a brilliant business person actually she was a good business person. That's one of the things that the show showed, which was how resourceful people were and how smart they were and the actual complexities of running a business it showed gangsters that were just super thugs, but it also showed the intricacies of business they had people like rothstein that was a mathematical genius and he was really good at I guess logistics just all around businessman but then they had Myers landscape and they showed how smart he was but then there were other people that were bootleggers and it showed that they had to have more than a entrepreneur spirit they had to actually have business acumen. Jillian had that but she was not mature it's like she was stunted. anyway saying all of that to say and I'm sorry I got off on a tangent, saying some of the things I said to say that I don't condone her murderous ways she was not a good person and in a court of law that's not an excuse you're upbringing but she really had a tragic beginning a super tragic beginning she just wanted to be a little girl and she was basically not just giving over to the commodore but she was sold to the commodore and the price was admission into the world of politics for nucky.
@@based-ys9umsilence yakubian
He’s probably trying to keep the video from being demonetized or age restricted
"Can't be half a gangster" - As a gangster in 1920s America, there was the business side and the violent side. Much like today. Nucky had the business side on LOCK. But he wasn't all-in on the violence side. At least, not personally. Jimmy was suggesting that Nucky would have to participate in the violent side now.
"Can't be half a gangster" was Stringer Bell's downfall.
That’s a very accurate take dog. I’m curious as to your opinion about why Jimmy went up to Nucky before he got shot in the hand.
🤣🤣That’s a big fact bro.. thanks for watching
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 Thanks bro. Yeah asked about why Jimmy talked to Nucky before he got shot in the hand. I believe that was just a Jimmy thing. He didn't do it all the time, but enough to let you that his signature in a way. Let's recount;; talked to Liam just before he was got, gave Sheridan his last words, the photographer before beatin' the tar right out of him, one of the Delessio brother's before shooting him in the head, etc, etc. In a small way its like Omar and his whistle. One of my favorite funny moments in the show? Idiotic and arrogant reporter walks into illegal drinking joint, asking Al Capone about Big Jim murder, and if he wishes to make a statement Capone makes that statement; with a bottle across said reporter's head , then proceeds to kick the Sugar Honey Ice Tea right out of him. Torrio comes down and ask what the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge is going on, to which Al replies; I'm makin' my statement. Funny! Keep up the good work!
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 I think that had something to do with Jimmy proving to himself or to anyone that knew of their conflict that Jimmy was willing to put the work in. Jimmy was a literal soldier who was clearly suffering post-war. It made more sense to have someone else kill Nucky especially in front of half of Atlantic City. It would have been impossible for Jimmy to take over the territory having done that. But going up to Nucky was Jimmy saying "if it had to be me pulling the trigger, I could have done it".
If Jimmy just would've stayed in Chicago we could've had a great storyline
I agree. It would have been funny when van alden got to chicago🤣🤣🤣
Mate!! You would be better off showing the scenes instead of talking . Kind regards
Why wouldn’t you just look up the scenes you want to watch bro? Kind regards
The Dormadys are the Kennedys.
I wish you would’ve gone into more depth about the weird sex scene between jimmy and Gillian lol that scarred me
Angela and Jillian the L word
tommy was angela's son. jimmy was not his biological father.
fa real?
Jimmy’s wife Angela was played Aleska Palladino. 🇮🇹+🇺🇸 =🔥🔥🔥😍
No dis to Gretchen Mol 🌹.
What Jimmy meant when he told Nucky he couldn’t be a “halfway gangster” was that he (Nucky) had to “get his hands dirty” i.e. commit murder.
💎👉🏾 When Harrow took out Liam in Chicago, it was a “signature k😵ll”. Harrow placed his shot just below Liam’s eye. This is how he (Harrow) took out the German sniper from whom he got the sniper’s mask he kept from the war. Harrow tells this story to Nucky after he took out Gyp’s men at Gillian’s house.
💎👉🏾 Jimmy didn’t want to come back from the war. He wanted to die there because he couldn’t live with himself for allowing his mother to sexually seduce him. 🔊 THAT’S THE REASON BRO. So he kept putting himself in harm’s way hoping to get taken out.
🔊 NEWS FLASH ➡️ Boardwalk Empire has two storylines. One is about the tragic life of Gillian Dormady, her son Jimmy, his son Tommy and her daughter-in-law Angela. They are, in every sense of the word, a family. The second story is that of organised crime during the 1920s and 30s in America. The series deals specifically with bootlegging and how criminals, politicians, and wealthy elites participated together in organised crime. Everyone was in on it. Not just poor Italian, Irish and Jewish immigrants.
💎👉🏾 Gillian was jealous of Angela. Angela had the life Gillian was deprived of by fate/circumstances. Angela got involved with women because she was looking for “safe love”. She was an artist. This means she moved in “progressive free thinking” circles. I don’t think she was 100% a l@sbian. I think she just wanted to be loved and feel stability and safety. Women weren’t running crime families. Men were.
*The Darmodys
Bro that’s hilarious. I was just second guessing myself about that the other day. Thank you🤣🤣🤣 Check back for correction within next 24 hours🤘🏾
I edit for a living. It's a curse. No offence intended. I enjoyed your content. I am rewatching Boardwalk Empire so your videos are excellent companion pieces.
Jillian is Hillary C.
Since ya kept asking, here's a comment
Naw Im happy Manny got them
I mean...if there ever was an excuse for incest....
Thanks for watching
Facts . It's wincest if they look like Jillian 🤷
I forgive you daily mother Superior
I think she's horrible
🤣🤣 Fair enough my friend
You comment houre too much like we get it you trynna grow but its annoying. Unless that's all you care about and not actually having organic audience.
So, what did you think about The Darmody’s?
= Bad
One of the least happy series I have ever loved.
I think you neutered Richard Harrow’s video. I get it’s about money. But would’ve been cool to keep both up. One age restricted, one not
I appreciate your opinion, thanks for watching