JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE, YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, YOU WILL BE IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER! GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS! MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/PRIEST/MARY OR SAINT DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE GODS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ACTOR OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS! JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON (THESE ARE END TIMES) WITH JUDGEMENT! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! IT STARTS WITH ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS & INVITING HIM INTO YOUR HEART/LIFE, SURRENDER ALL TO HIM! IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CREATOR. HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
THEORY: during the snap, because of Khonshu and the DID, Mark's body stayed but his mind was gone from it. As a result during those few years Steven lived out a normal life with none of these things happening and when the blip happened Mark came back, causing the shifts between the two to be more sporadic in nature.
3:42 no identity is “the real one” they are all real but one is the one in control the Most, they are all part of the same person and are fragments of someones personality
I think there's also another reason why the story is focusing on Steven - it just makes for a more interesting story, and lets the audience learn what is happening as he learns.
Yep, I agree with you The story and character building It's similar to Kingdom Hearts II when the player starts as Roxas and slowly learns that Sora is the main character.
i think they focused on him a bit too much he has a simple life but they focused on the least rellevant details throught the episode excluidng showing how much he knows about the egypt mythology and the scene where he waked up in a different place.
I don’t think Steven is meant as a *physically* protective alter but more as a mental or moral one. I also think the guy at t he desk calling him Scotty might be pointing to another alter.
Easter Egg: the QR code by the statue in the museum where Steven explains mummification to the little girl takes you to marvel comics website where you get a free copy of Werewolf By Night
@@Capes-and-Coffee nice! I can’t wait to see that! The clip we’ve seen in the trailer of Oscar falling and doing a “super hero landing” (as Deadpool puts it) made me think of Steven falling all weird and awkwardly forcing Mr. Knight to make his debut.
i personally hope they go with the comics retcon of "Marc always had DID since childhood" because thats more accurate to real life DID, and after movies like Split and the whole trope of "person with DID has a secret evil serial killer split personality" we kinda need more accurate DID representation
@@ange1noha1o Either it’s a Hollywood simplification of something real, or it’s magic & not in fact a real human disorder but simply how humans diagnose him. Interesting to see how they play this. I expect the latter.
@@lcflngn well, the only way they can play it at this point, while staying not ignorant, is by just saying it’s Konshu-caused DID and not at all like real Dissociative Identity Disorder
@@ange1noha1o dude, you do know that this is a fictional show in a fictional universe? it's not going to be an accurate depiction of DID. The director himself studied DID and tried to be respectful and even said it himself.
Something I haven't seen anyone mention. In the scene where Steven blacks out and Marc kills those four people, when it cuts back to Steven, the Scarab has it's wings out, whereas normally it doesn't. I wonder if this means anything, or if its just a mistake?
. . . My guess is, whatever he was able to do to those armed men, while standing in one spot surrounded, was aided or facilitated by the scarab. Activating or summoning it's power in whatever way it operates. Doing so however seems to have cut his hands on its wings. I believe Marc knows how it works so once his persona took control, he activated it to escape his surrounding captors.
always remember guys in fight club. the narrator perspective is unreliable. same goes with the elevator. he pressed ground floor but instead the elevator goes up.
Counterpoint: Steven *is* a form of protector, as nobody would expect a dweeb like him being an avatar of an Egyptian "god" (air-quotes cuz Eternals and Asgardians). The "chaos within" him also protected from Harrow's judgement. Hide-in-plain-sight is a neglected artform.
None of this explains the 'mom' Grant keeps leaving messages for as the story goes along. I think Grant is a kinder take on Blake Lockley. The Mom is probably a voice mailbox Marc uses to keep an eye on what Grant's been up to while he's away. Him working at a museum is likely not a coincidence, either.
JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE, YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, YOU WILL BE IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER! GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS! MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/PRIEST/MARY OR SAINT DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE GODS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ACTOR OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS! JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON (THESE ARE END TIMES) WITH JUDGEMENT! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! IT STARTS WITH ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS & INVITING HIM INTO YOUR HEART/LIFE, SURRENDER ALL TO HIM! IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CREATOR. HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
I believe Jake Lockley is in the show. I feel there are hints toward that. First is the Date, Steven is completely oblivious to the prior engagement with his co-worker. Sure it could have been Marc but I'm certain Marc has been trying to not interfere with the Steven Alter. He goes out of his way to keep Steven in the dark, trying his best to not interfere with his life. And it appears Marc has been busy being the primary Fist of Khonshu persona so why would he trying to pick up women at Steven's work. I also think the framing of Marc with three faces in the episode proper and the credits sequence is hinting at this. And I think we have precedent for this kind of behavior in the comics. In the Bemis run, it's revealed that the Jake alter has been seeing Marc's ex-gf Marlene in secret over the years and now even has a kid with her.
I love WHERE the story starts us. Hes aware of his disorder but unaware of who he was before episode one. He already has power but we're left figuring out how. I just feel like this disorder is a genius angle to write a superhero story that's original enough. Or any disorder if handled with enough care.
To be fair, his DID is insanely misrepresented for this story. It’s much more on the side of them changing the disorder to match the story, not the other way around.
When Khonshu says "go back to sleep worm" he's talking to one of the other alters not Steven. That's why he follows it with "oh no it's the idiot". He wouldn't call Marc a worm and Steven is idiot.
This is an interesting theory. Interesting enough for me to go back and watch to see if it sounds like he is talking to someone and then realizes its not who he thought it was. If i read the words you typed thats how i would interpret it but i didnt think twice when i was watching that he was talking to only steven.
@@cloneboss4295 after he calls steven a worm konshu tells him to give the body to marc so konshu at least knows its not marc. Then says he shouldnt be here. After steven replies a few times konshu realizes its steven. So that does seem to suggest at least another personality. Maybe the reason he fell out of the window was because personality X took over at a bad time and found himself in a bad spot and made a bad choice which angered konshu. That could justify the 'go back to sleep worm'. Konshu didnt realize it was steven by his british accent tho. So thats either a goof or the other personality also has the accent.
Theory on Steven's mother: Ammit is referred to as a female deity, depicted with a crocodile head. At the end of each of his voicemails to his mother, Steven ends with "laters gators." He may have both gods raging within him with Ammit holding sway over Steven while Marc is aligned with Khonshu.
@@Therelaxedgirlguide I’ve been a fan of Moon Knight for years now and was kinda disappointed when I heard it would be a show and not the movie it deserves, but I know I’m gonna enjoy the show anyway and it will be the best the MCU has to offer!
I bet he’ll change into a billionaire once Steven and Marc get on the same page he’ll change from working at the museum and build the smooth guy persona
I think this version Steven a good choice by Disney/Marvel for live action. Steven gives the series/writers as a whole an 'out' since it is not Steven that is exceedingly violent, it is one of his other personality (mark/Mr.knight/moon knight). Since 'heroes' (should) always take the high road. So far, this gives for a more compelling story that makes him unique among most other superheroes. Excited to see where this series goes!
I think the betrayer avatar of Ammit will be revealed to be Steven Grant. Khonshu wiped his mind and created Marc to be his avatar and keep Ammit locked away.
Ok I got a theory and it's a bit of a reach, but it ties into the rest of the MCU. Steven appears to have a normal life but then his sleeping disorder kicks in and Marc/Konshu show up. Say he's been Steven without incident for say 5 years. Why? THE SNAP. Half of all life was removed from existence that day. Maybe it removed Marc and just left Steven. Which is why the alter took control for so long. Just a wild theory.
i think that the show is embracing the more magical aspects of his origin and is using it as the base for his powers and multiple personalities, which im all for. think it makes so much more sense than what they have done in most of the comics where he is using a bunch of batman style gadgets, like Moon Knight has always had a supernatural origin story but still whent for a more batman inspired ability set even do you would think his Connection to Khonshu would make much more sens to base his powers around, so to me embracing his Connection to Khonshu and magic, as well as givning him stronger supernatural powers make so much more sens.
It's interesting that Harrow says, "What I mean by avatar is... Steven." He says it because he's trying to interrupt Steven, but it seems to foreshadow Moonknight taking over at the end of the episode.
I think Mark created Steven as a hiding place. Like a sleeper agent. Mark was probably hiding from Harrow and his Merry Band and he and Konshu created the new persona to hide in plain site, but it's fracturing. This is suggested by the voice mails he keeps leaving to his mother, there is no mother but a voice mail box Mark set up to make Steven seem normal, even to himself, and also the line from the trailer for I guess next episode "you weren't supposed to find out" suggests that Steven was created on purpose. Though there is one big question here. Mark is clearly aware of Steven, so why would he set up a date knowing that Steven will forget it? Unless...that's another personality.
Without knowing anything my initial reaction was that Steven was the alternate and possible originally a undercover identity. Steven seems to believe he had a backstory. (Talks to his mom, had a job, etc). That backstory was marks cover. I thought maybe mark had an alias and was possibly using it to research info at that museum as well as hide his real identity when he’s not mercenary-ing. It just seemed too coincidental that he’s inhabited by an Egyptian god and works in a museum full of artifacts. I don’t think Steven woke up in the field because he touched the artifact. I think mark jumps out that window and gets knocked out. So Steven then wakes up. I don’t know anything about this character. That’s just my impression after watching the episode.
Usually ppl with DID can't hear or actually be controlled by the other alters unless it's in full control. Alters don't talk to each other, and honestly I hate I it's misrepresented in this :/
I think the idea that Marc invented Steven to become more of a human makes a lot of sense. It also kinda fits that he never actually gets a call back from his mom, since she probably knows him only as Marc and not Steven, or perhaps even thinks him dead.
I suspect the simple answer is that the studios that own the rights allow users like Screencrush to use trailer clips because they know these videos help promote their shows.
Disagree on the idea that the Steven alter isn't useful to Marc's mission. He seemingly has been serving the purpose of a "hideout" -- a way for Marc to lay low away from the action between times when he's out doing work for Khonshu and defending the night and such. Someone unassuming and harmless, who wouldn't ever be suspected of being a superhero. He also, by virtue of his occupation and interests, gives Marc a way to conduct research on ancient Egypt in the background. I believe the series will eventually play into the angle that Marc/Steven/Moon Knight/Mr. Knight/etc. needs all of his alters to work in conjunction to succeed. Marc will need Steven's intellect and knowledge of ancient Egypt to unravel some mystery or puzzle eventually.
The first episode was awesome and unlike anything so far, I love how they started the show with the villain and Ethan Hawke is the perfect casting for this...
I think that mark will be moon knight and once Steven learns about the powers he will become mr knight which means they have their own version for the moon knight
Your channel and New Rockstars are truly one of the best. Keep doing what you do, bro. These are great analysis! (forgot how to spell the plural form, unless that was the plural form.... PANCAKES!) So glad I found and subscribed to your channel!
there is no 'real' personality with DID all the personalities are alters because the current understanding of how its formed shows that there is no original person to start with, the person never melds into one personality like most people
"Real identity" is a bit offensive. In DID, all the alters are real people. The term you mean to use is "host". Marc is the original "host" of the body.
This whole video is a bunch of misinformation if I'm completely honest. Personalities ≠ identities, and people with DID don't just have a "real one" and then a bunch of "made up" ones. Yes technically the brain makes up alters to deal with trauma (as a kid, not an adult) but that doesn't mean the alters aren't real.
Can't wait for Mr. KNIGHT! I'm glad he isn't a billionaire, more stakes. Also finally that fuckin Batman comparison is gone! 9:12 damn, suprised MCU got this brutal, doing MK justice ⚖ 😉
I’m pretty sure you got it backwards...I’m pretty sure Marc created Steven aspect to stay undercover. He finds the phone and the person asks Marc where’s he’s been. People at the museum can’t even remember his name showing that he’s new. Also with how the people were judged with the scale Steven would come out as a good person where as Marc would most certainly die. Ethan hawks character wanted to kill him with the scales but the scale was only staying on the righteous side. That’s when he said there’s chaos in you because he noticed that he’s got multiple personalities and the main one (Marc) has found a loophole to not get judged. She asked about his accent and where that came from so I’m thinking in the show he’s an American.
I don't believe in coincidences, I'm pretty sure Steven was created as a cover to work in the Museum that just happened to have an Egyptian Exhibit. I think that's when the scarab comes in. Love your stuff, thank you!
I'd argue that Steven is in fact a protector... Egyptian Gods hold a lot of balance between "feminity" and "masculinity" and "passive" vs "active" and Steven's passive, gentle, sweeter nature protects Mark from the traumas of his childhood and more recent past. He *is* a protector - a buffer between Mark and the brutality of those memories. Not a distraction or a nuisance... Khonshu doesn't like Steven BECAUSE he is protecting Mark... His "ineptitude" is protection.
At 4:12 I think that's Khonshu taking control over Marc's body to prevent him from giving away the scarrab (implied that seconds before that, Khonshu told Steven he will not give Arthur anything, as well as the mirror and bathroom scenes where Marc was talking to Steven since that's how DID more likely works) But maybe I'm wrong, I don't really read the comics so who knows 🤷
That’s not how DID works though. It’s much more DID accurate that Marc just fronted and caused Steven’s memory loss. DID definitely doesn’t let you talk to your alters in a mirror.
@@ange1noha1o I stand corrected, but then again, the show has to visualize how alters and host are able to communicate with each other to not confuse the audience, hence, mirrors.
@@shanntaaa that’s mostly fair, but they could’ve pretty easily let them communicate with notes while switching, or let Marc front and become co-conscious. They could visualize co-consciousness by just having Marc front and yell at Steven out loud, while having Steven freak out in his head. Those would be the most accurate depictions of DID. Though, since memory loss is already a confirmed aspect, co-consciousness likely wouldn’t be accurate in their case either. I do think it would’ve been so much cooler while being genuinely accurate if they just had Marc front as Moon Knight on his own, and then use the blood of the guy he pummeled to spell out “I’m a superhero -Marc Spector, your other half.” on the mirror. That would be 100% accurate and case sensitive while still being cool as fuck and being a nice way to let Steven know about Marc’s existence and his role as Moon Knight. Seeing Steven freak out at the sight of the note would be sick. And if they wanted to stay accurate while making easier communication, they could just use Konshu as a middleman to speak to each other after the previous idea. As long as they made it clear that it was Konshu magic and not actually part of DID, it’d be totally perfect.
I'm surprised that you never mentioned either Jekyll/Hyde or Norman Osborn/Green Goblin cause this show reminded me of those more than Lord of the Rings or your other examples. It also, reminded me of Venom with the way that Khonshu both controls and casually mocks Steven.
I had no background on moon knight, but I also noticed how the "normal dude" was the alternate personality, not the crazy violent guy (Marc). Really cool, how usually the person is normal, but the alternate identity is usually much more chaotic and violent. Pretty good for a change. It is also really cool how it is an alternate identity that didn't know it was. Marc seems to know much more about his condition (which lead me a little bit more confused if he was the alternate or not, but glad I could confirm) Obs: The fact he wants to be normal is also a nod to Superman, which is an alien in true form, but disguises as a normal human.
I read the losing control as necessity. It was either both personalities die or one takes the other hostage to save them both. Once the problem is solved, back to hiding
Noticed another (I think) easter egg you missed. Is that a poppy field Steven runs by at the 4:05 mark? Poppies induce sleep of course like in the wizard of oz which was all a dream...
🤔 So dying merc Marc stubbles into Khonshu’s temple. Khonshu seizes the opportunity for an awesome avatar by cramming Marc’s soul into conveniently nearby archeologist, or maybe just fanboy tourist, Steven Grant? Works.
My guess isn't that Moon Knight is as separate and distinct as a whole personality, he is the alter ego of Marc just as Mr. Knight will turn out to be the alter ego of Steven. Also, I think there is a 3rd personality that we have yet to see who might not be as good as the other two, who will also have an alter ego.
7:50 If you’re going to compare Steven from the comics to “playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne,” it should really be the head of Christian Bale’s Batman on Hulk’s body since Robert Pattinson’s Batman didn’t use the “playboy billionaire” facade.
"Steven Grant is not the real identity. He is an alter identity. Marc is the real one." That's an oversimplification and misunderstanding of how DID works. There's no distinction between a "real identity" and an "alter identity". Every identity in a DID system is an alter, and every alter is real. They're segmented off chunks of consciousness. Marc may or may not be the body's birth name and legal name, but the fact that one alter identifies with (or uses) that name, and may recognize the body and face as their own, doesn't make that alter any more real than any other, nor does it make them not an alter. It's convenient for a long term host to identify with the name and body (out of habit if not instinct), so it's not unusual for those things to align, but it doesn't indicate being more real or less of an alter than anyone else in the system. Neither does having false memories. Those are simply things the brain does to make sense of things.
Host, for clarification, is a word in this context describing the alter who's in control of the body for most of the time, dealing with everyday life, for any given extended period of time. It would appear that in Moon Knight's case, Marc was long term host up until a few months ago, when Steven became the new host (whether newly formed to fill that role or instinctively moved into it).
A comment that will be seen by me a lot in all these moon knight videos, probably ad nauseum, but, I suffer the same psychological disorder, and I am deep in Egyptian mythos so I loved this soooooo much. Everyone go ahead and hate on me, it's cool, I get it it, but literally.....it may not be "me" typing this. It's so personal and I just fucking loved it so much
***POSSIBLE SPOILER*** You missed the part when Ethan Hawke's character mentions Amit's avatar betrayed her, and all the talks of Steven in the phone with his "mom". The way he finishes all those messages? Bye, alligator (or something else related to it. Sorry, I watched it in portuguese, don't know the original). Steven was Amit's avatar.
Really interesting comparison you missed. In the very end of Mr. Robot *SPOILER* it's revealed that the "Elliot" we've been watching isn't the real Elliot, but another alter who, like Steven, was unaware of the existence of the real Elliot.
hey, peter griffin here i did the same analogy in the channel Emergency Awsome , with mark wanting to lay low as Steven, because the Monn God is too much to deal if, so he needs a break and creats Steven, rsrs
I wonder if the brief scene showing him in a sharp suit looking very “playboy” was a nod to the version of Steven in the comics. His decision to change, seemingly because he didn’t seem comfortable, could be a nod to that.. or to a future mr knight turn.
I’m watching this video today and seeing that this came out four weeks ago is a manager spoiler alert because their scenes that you provide us with that aren’t even in the first episode.
It's actually incorrect to say that either of them is the real one or just an alter. They're BOTH alters. There's an analogy that explains this really well. Take a piece of paper and rip it in half. Which half is the real one?
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JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE, YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, YOU WILL BE IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER!
GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS!
MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/PRIEST/MARY OR SAINT DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE GODS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ACTOR OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS!
JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON (THESE ARE END TIMES) WITH JUDGEMENT! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! IT STARTS WITH ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS & INVITING HIM INTO YOUR HEART/LIFE, SURRENDER ALL TO HIM! IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CREATOR. HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU!
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
“For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
Hey Ryan, how come you never reference the movie Identity when talking DID? If you haven’t watched it, you REALLY should. Great film.
THEORY: during the snap, because of Khonshu and the DID, Mark's body stayed but his mind was gone from it. As a result during those few years Steven lived out a normal life with none of these things happening and when the blip happened Mark came back, causing the shifts between the two to be more sporadic in nature.
that’s a really good theory man wow
This is the only one that makes sense
that would be really cool but idk if marvel wants to keep referring to the blip
I like this. It would totally be interesting.
This is a great theory, but didn't the writers say something along the lines of how the wider mcu won't even be mentioned here?
3:42 no identity is “the real one” they are all real but one is the one in control the Most, they are all part of the same person and are fragments of someones personality
I think there's also another reason why the story is focusing on Steven - it just makes for a more interesting story, and lets the audience learn what is happening as he learns.
Yep, I agree with you
The story and character building It's similar to Kingdom Hearts II when the player starts as Roxas and slowly learns that Sora is the main character.
i think they focused on him a bit too much he has a simple life but they focused on the least rellevant details throught the episode excluidng showing how much he knows about the egypt mythology and the scene where he waked up in a different place.
@@kevinchandra1601 uh kinda if you wanna put it that way…except Roxas personality is similar to Marc’s 😅
I don’t think Steven is meant as a *physically* protective alter but more as a mental or moral one. I also think the guy at t he desk calling him Scotty might be pointing to another alter.
Easter Egg: the QR code by the statue in the museum where Steven explains mummification to the little girl takes you to marvel comics website where you get a free copy of Werewolf By Night
You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.
That’s cool
if I remember correctly isn't werewolf by night first comic Moon knight appeared in?
It would be cool if Mr. Knight is the persona when Steven is in control after he learns the truth and comes to terms with his situation:
That probably right
according to D23’s online site, that is just the case! Mr. Knight is Steven’s alter and MK is Marc’s.
I like that! Makes perfect sense.
@@Capes-and-Coffee nice! I can’t wait to see that! The clip we’ve seen in the trailer of Oscar falling and doing a “super hero landing” (as Deadpool puts it) made me think of Steven falling all weird and awkwardly forcing Mr. Knight to make his debut.
Yo. This is fucking cold !
i personally hope they go with the comics retcon of "Marc always had DID since childhood" because thats more accurate to real life DID, and after movies like Split and the whole trope of "person with DID has a secret evil serial killer split personality"
we kinda need more accurate DID representation
Nah, the first episode already completely misrepresents DID. There’s really no way they’re fixing it now
@@ange1noha1o Either it’s a Hollywood simplification of something real, or it’s magic & not in fact a real human disorder but simply how humans diagnose him. Interesting to see how they play this. I expect the latter.
@@lcflngn well, the only way they can play it at this point, while staying not ignorant, is by just saying it’s Konshu-caused DID and not at all like real Dissociative Identity Disorder
@@ange1noha1o Yep, that sounds right.
@@ange1noha1o dude, you do know that this is a fictional show in a fictional universe? it's not going to be an accurate depiction of DID. The director himself studied DID and tried to be respectful and even said it himself.
Something I haven't seen anyone mention. In the scene where Steven blacks out and Marc kills those four people, when it cuts back to Steven, the Scarab has it's wings out, whereas normally it doesn't. I wonder if this means anything, or if its just a mistake?
when I saw that, and how bloody it was, I assumed he used the wings to stab and slice
I think that definitely means something.
idk what it means but its not a mistake because during the credits it shows the scarab and wings pop out of it so i think its just able to do that
. . . My guess is, whatever he was able to do to those armed men, while standing in one spot surrounded, was aided or facilitated by the scarab. Activating or summoning it's power in whatever way it operates. Doing so however seems to have cut his hands on its wings. I believe Marc knows how it works so once his persona took control, he activated it to escape his surrounding captors.
always remember guys in fight club. the narrator perspective is unreliable. same goes with the elevator. he pressed ground floor but instead the elevator goes up.
Counterpoint: Steven *is* a form of protector, as nobody would expect a dweeb like him being an avatar of an Egyptian "god" (air-quotes cuz Eternals and Asgardians). The "chaos within" him also protected from Harrow's judgement. Hide-in-plain-sight is a neglected artform.
None of this explains the 'mom' Grant keeps leaving messages for as the story goes along. I think Grant is a kinder take on Blake Lockley. The Mom is probably a voice mailbox Marc uses to keep an eye on what Grant's been up to while he's away. Him working at a museum is likely not a coincidence, either.
Interesting theory. That would be super cool
The mom is Marc actually. Leaving postcards on him to make him think his life is real
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Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
“For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
I believe Jake Lockley is in the show. I feel there are hints toward that. First is the Date, Steven is completely oblivious to the prior engagement with his co-worker. Sure it could have been Marc but I'm certain Marc has been trying to not interfere with the Steven Alter. He goes out of his way to keep Steven in the dark, trying his best to not interfere with his life. And it appears Marc has been busy being the primary Fist of Khonshu persona so why would he trying to pick up women at Steven's work. I also think the framing of Marc with three faces in the episode proper and the credits sequence is hinting at this.
And I think we have precedent for this kind of behavior in the comics. In the Bemis run, it's revealed that the Jake alter has been seeing Marc's ex-gf Marlene in secret over the years and now even has a kid with her.
So super sad for Steve there is obvs no real mom. 😢
I love WHERE the story starts us. Hes aware of his disorder but unaware of who he was before episode one. He already has power but we're left figuring out how. I just feel like this disorder is a genius angle to write a superhero story that's original enough. Or any disorder if handled with enough care.
To be fair, his DID is insanely misrepresented for this story. It’s much more on the side of them changing the disorder to match the story, not the other way around.
I dont think he was aware of his DID, he just believes he just sleepwalks.
When Khonshu says "go back to sleep worm" he's talking to one of the other alters not Steven. That's why he follows it with "oh no it's the idiot". He wouldn't call Marc a worm and Steven is idiot.
This is an interesting theory. Interesting enough for me to go back and watch to see if it sounds like he is talking to someone and then realizes its not who he thought it was. If i read the words you typed thats how i would interpret it but i didnt think twice when i was watching that he was talking to only steven.
@@HOAXTelevision let me know what you think about it after rewatching
@@cloneboss4295 after he calls steven a worm konshu tells him to give the body to marc so konshu at least knows its not marc. Then says he shouldnt be here. After steven replies a few times konshu realizes its steven. So that does seem to suggest at least another personality.
Maybe the reason he fell out of the window was because personality X took over at a bad time and found himself in a bad spot and made a bad choice which angered konshu. That could justify the 'go back to sleep worm'.
Konshu didnt realize it was steven by his british accent tho. So thats either a goof or the other personality also has the accent.
people with DID don't hear the other alters tho-
@@charlie-yp2oq what? That doesn't have anything to do with what I'm talking about.
Theory on Steven's mother: Ammit is referred to as a female deity, depicted with a crocodile head. At the end of each of his voicemails to his mother, Steven ends with "laters gators." He may have both gods raging within him with Ammit holding sway over Steven while Marc is aligned with Khonshu.
Wow fantastic comparisons, Ryan. I’m already feeling like six episodes is too short for this story!
Yes. My friend and I were just saying umm... we're ready for a Moon Knight to show up in a film lol
Straight up the first episode was gorgeous!!!
Nah most episodes over 52 mins good enough to tell a great story
6 episodes was too little for each show that came out.
@@Therelaxedgirlguide I’ve been a fan of Moon Knight for years now and was kinda disappointed when I heard it would be a show and not the movie it deserves, but I know I’m gonna enjoy the show anyway and it will be the best the MCU has to offer!
I bet he’ll change into a billionaire once Steven and Marc get on the same page he’ll change from working at the museum and build the smooth guy persona
I think they're going to avoid him being wealthy to further distance the moon knight character from batman, personally.
I think this version Steven a good choice by Disney/Marvel for live action. Steven gives the series/writers as a whole an 'out' since it is not Steven that is exceedingly violent, it is one of his other personality (mark/Mr.knight/moon knight). Since 'heroes' (should) always take the high road. So far, this gives for a more compelling story that makes him unique among most other superheroes. Excited to see where this series goes!
What did you think of the first episode?
I think it was really good, lot of action for just the first episode
Your mom
I think the betrayer avatar of Ammit will be revealed to be Steven Grant. Khonshu wiped his mind and created Marc to be his avatar and keep Ammit locked away.
It was woke garbage. Marc Spector is supposed to be a white guy
I think it was fantastic! I love how it doesn’t feel like a typical MCU project
This first episode makes me think they’re leading up to something REALLY good.
I think Marc is in control of moon Knight and the personality Steven eventually becomes Mr Knight since he's more polite and collaborative.
Ok I got a theory and it's a bit of a reach, but it ties into the rest of the MCU. Steven appears to have a normal life but then his sleeping disorder kicks in and Marc/Konshu show up. Say he's been Steven without incident for say 5 years. Why?
THE SNAP.
Half of all life was removed from existence that day. Maybe it removed Marc and just left Steven. Which is why the alter took control for so long.
Just a wild theory.
I like this theory
i think that the show is embracing the more magical aspects of his origin and is using it as the base for his powers and multiple personalities, which im all for. think it makes so much more sense than what they have done in most of the comics where he is using a bunch of batman style gadgets, like Moon Knight has always had a supernatural origin story but still whent for a more batman inspired ability set even do you would think his Connection to Khonshu would make much more sens to base his powers around, so to me embracing his Connection to Khonshu and magic, as well as givning him stronger supernatural powers make so much more sens.
this show hyped me soo much and my expectations are soo high that this show reached over what i was expecting thanks Ryan for the clarifacations
It's interesting that Harrow says, "What I mean by avatar is... Steven." He says it because he's trying to interrupt Steven, but it seems to foreshadow Moonknight taking over at the end of the episode.
Most likely…Harrow knows his true identity
I believe Steven IS a manifestation of Moon knight. He even puts on his white hoodie while trying to scape. The same white as Moon knight
I can’t see myself talking to myself in a mirror, we can only use notes or share memories.
I think Mark created Steven as a hiding place. Like a sleeper agent. Mark was probably hiding from Harrow and his Merry Band and he and Konshu created the new persona to hide in plain site, but it's fracturing. This is suggested by the voice mails he keeps leaving to his mother, there is no mother but a voice mail box Mark set up to make Steven seem normal, even to himself, and also the line from the trailer for I guess next episode "you weren't supposed to find out" suggests that Steven was created on purpose.
Though there is one big question here. Mark is clearly aware of Steven, so why would he set up a date knowing that Steven will forget it? Unless...that's another personality.
What if Harrow and co are similar to Kaecilius and his minions from Doctor Strange?
Thank you! This was the only good explanation I could find on RUclips!
Please Marvel, give us another season & a movie or two. 🙏🏽
Marc sure is gonna throw some dirt in harrow's eyes
Cool video, although that's not how DID works
Wonderful esoteric explanation. Will be checking in as more episodes drop. I love this series so far. Thanks for the info.
I love we are being told the story through an Alters personality (aka Steven). I wonder if Marc will become the main character at some point?
There will probably be an episode from Mark's perspective that will fill in both the origin backstory and how Steven was "created".
Crazy fact- in DID each persona has there own set of vital signs like blood pressure and resting heart rate. It’s absolutely crazy.
Oooo I didn't know that, ik several people with DID. Never knew that was a thing,
Without knowing anything my initial reaction was that Steven was the alternate and possible originally a undercover identity. Steven seems to believe he had a backstory. (Talks to his mom, had a job, etc). That backstory was marks cover. I thought maybe mark had an alias and was possibly using it to research info at that museum as well as hide his real identity when he’s not mercenary-ing. It just seemed too coincidental that he’s inhabited by an Egyptian god and works in a museum full of artifacts.
I don’t think Steven woke up in the field because he touched the artifact. I think mark jumps out that window and gets knocked out. So Steven then wakes up. I don’t know anything about this character. That’s just my impression after watching the episode.
Usually ppl with DID can't hear or actually be controlled by the other alters unless it's in full control. Alters don't talk to each other, and honestly I hate I it's misrepresented in this :/
That's not true. Alters/headmates do talk to each other. Co-awareness/co-fronting is a thing. It just happens in stages and takes a long time.
Top notch as always my friend.
Thank you for this video
It has given me a start on what i need to know
Donna is one of the meanest MCU villains!
You do an fantastic, entertaining, and knowledgeable review. Truly enjoyable and I get so much more out of the shows.
I think the idea that Marc invented Steven to become more of a human makes a lot of sense. It also kinda fits that he never actually gets a call back from his mom, since she probably knows him only as Marc and not Steven, or perhaps even thinks him dead.
Thanks for the Mr. Robot spoilers I wasnt expecting at all!!!
My own little theory is that we’ll see the 2nd episode from Mark’s POV so it will be an “alternate” episode 1
that would be awesome
Like a flashback fight?
I love it how raid is sponsoring this vid! I’ve playing this one for a while
Hey, it's Fjord at 1:04! Applause for the CR shout out
5 Personalities:
Marc Extreme (Moon Knight)
Marc
Jake
Steven
Steven Extreme (Mr. Knight)
I lose all respect when someone tries to tell us that Raid is really great game with deep lore.
I’m really liking Moon Night thus far. I really hope this show delivers on the promise the premier shows.
Ryan, great video. I always wonder how you can put things from a show that came out yesterday into a RUclips vid without getting it copyrighted.
They are from the trailer and teasers.
@@ajayvaishnav6840 but how does he have the rights to them
@@reed3413 Nobody does. But many RUclipsrs use trailer clips without getting copyright strikes.
I suspect the simple answer is that the studios that own the rights allow users like Screencrush to use trailer clips because they know these videos help promote their shows.
He had the mandalorian fully explained an edited within hours. Its absolutely impossible, he gets to watch episodes in advance. And im all for it
I hate how well you segue into ads. I never know when I’m supposed to start skipping.
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I usually use sponsor block but I was a little too early today
Disagree on the idea that the Steven alter isn't useful to Marc's mission. He seemingly has been serving the purpose of a "hideout" -- a way for Marc to lay low away from the action between times when he's out doing work for Khonshu and defending the night and such. Someone unassuming and harmless, who wouldn't ever be suspected of being a superhero.
He also, by virtue of his occupation and interests, gives Marc a way to conduct research on ancient Egypt in the background. I believe the series will eventually play into the angle that Marc/Steven/Moon Knight/Mr. Knight/etc. needs all of his alters to work in conjunction to succeed. Marc will need Steven's intellect and knowledge of ancient Egypt to unravel some mystery or puzzle eventually.
The first episode was awesome and unlike anything so far, I love how they started the show with the villain and Ethan Hawke is the perfect casting for this...
I think that mark will be moon knight and once Steven learns about the powers he will become mr knight which means they have their own version for the moon knight
Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos 🎈
Your channel and New Rockstars are truly one of the best. Keep doing what you do, bro. These are great analysis! (forgot how to spell the plural form, unless that was the plural form.... PANCAKES!) So glad I found and subscribed to your channel!
there is no 'real' personality with DID all the personalities are alters because the current understanding of how its formed shows that there is no original person to start with, the person never melds into one personality like most people
Reminds me of the phrase: "If you tell yourself a lie long enough, soon even you begin to believe it."
"Real identity" is a bit offensive. In DID, all the alters are real people. The term you mean to use is "host". Marc is the original "host" of the body.
This whole video is a bunch of misinformation if I'm completely honest. Personalities ≠ identities, and people with DID don't just have a "real one" and then a bunch of "made up" ones. Yes technically the brain makes up alters to deal with trauma (as a kid, not an adult) but that doesn't mean the alters aren't real.
This 🌻
Can't wait for Mr. KNIGHT! I'm glad he isn't a billionaire, more stakes. Also finally that fuckin Batman comparison is gone! 9:12 damn, suprised MCU got this brutal, doing MK justice ⚖ 😉
I love that his eyes are glowing white instead of seeing his pupils. It drives me crazy that they still show Bruce’s pupils through the Batman cowl.
I’m pretty sure you got it backwards...I’m pretty sure Marc created Steven aspect to stay undercover. He finds the phone and the person asks Marc where’s he’s been. People at the museum can’t even remember his name showing that he’s new. Also with how the people were judged with the scale Steven would come out as a good person where as Marc would most certainly die. Ethan hawks character wanted to kill him with the scales but the scale was only staying on the righteous side. That’s when he said there’s chaos in you because he noticed that he’s got multiple personalities and the main one (Marc) has found a loophole to not get judged. She asked about his accent and where that came from so I’m thinking in the show he’s an American.
I think something so cool would be for Dr. Strange to push Moon Knight's personas out into his astral form(s)
In some of the comics khonshu has a fifth aspect: the one who feeds on hearts. Curious to see if this side comes out in the show
Bugger! I always considered there was a chance something about Mr. Robot would be spoilt for me before I got around to watching it 😂
I don't believe in coincidences, I'm pretty sure Steven was created as a cover to work in the Museum that just happened to have an Egyptian Exhibit. I think that's when the scarab comes in.
Love your stuff, thank you!
I'd argue that Steven is in fact a protector... Egyptian Gods hold a lot of balance between "feminity" and "masculinity" and "passive" vs "active" and Steven's passive, gentle, sweeter nature protects Mark from the traumas of his childhood and more recent past. He *is* a protector - a buffer between Mark and the brutality of those memories. Not a distraction or a nuisance... Khonshu doesn't like Steven BECAUSE he is protecting Mark... His "ineptitude" is protection.
All I hear is the Goblin yelling at Norman Osborn while crawling on the ground
At 4:12 I think that's Khonshu taking control over Marc's body to prevent him from giving away the scarrab (implied that seconds before that, Khonshu told Steven he will not give Arthur anything, as well as the mirror and bathroom scenes where Marc was talking to Steven since that's how DID more likely works)
But maybe I'm wrong, I don't really read the comics so who knows 🤷
That’s not how DID works though. It’s much more DID accurate that Marc just fronted and caused Steven’s memory loss. DID definitely doesn’t let you talk to your alters in a mirror.
@@ange1noha1o I stand corrected, but then again, the show has to visualize how alters and host are able to communicate with each other to not confuse the audience, hence, mirrors.
@@shanntaaa that’s mostly fair, but they could’ve pretty easily let them communicate with notes while switching, or let Marc front and become co-conscious. They could visualize co-consciousness by just having Marc front and yell at Steven out loud, while having Steven freak out in his head. Those would be the most accurate depictions of DID. Though, since memory loss is already a confirmed aspect, co-consciousness likely wouldn’t be accurate in their case either. I do think it would’ve been so much cooler while being genuinely accurate if they just had Marc front as Moon Knight on his own, and then use the blood of the guy he pummeled to spell out “I’m a superhero -Marc Spector, your other half.” on the mirror. That would be 100% accurate and case sensitive while still being cool as fuck and being a nice way to let Steven know about Marc’s existence and his role as Moon Knight. Seeing Steven freak out at the sight of the note would be sick. And if they wanted to stay accurate while making easier communication, they could just use Konshu as a middleman to speak to each other after the previous idea. As long as they made it clear that it was Konshu magic and not actually part of DID, it’d be totally perfect.
I'm surprised that you never mentioned either Jekyll/Hyde or Norman Osborn/Green Goblin cause this show reminded me of those more than Lord of the Rings or your other examples. It also, reminded me of Venom with the way that Khonshu both controls and casually mocks Steven.
I had no background on moon knight, but I also noticed how the "normal dude" was the alternate personality, not the crazy violent guy (Marc).
Really cool, how usually the person is normal, but the alternate identity is usually much more chaotic and violent. Pretty good for a change. It is also really cool how it is an alternate identity that didn't know it was. Marc seems to know much more about his condition (which lead me a little bit more confused if he was the alternate or not, but glad I could confirm)
Obs: The fact he wants to be normal is also a nod to Superman, which is an alien in true form, but disguises as a normal human.
I read the losing control as necessity. It was either both personalities die or one takes the other hostage to save them both. Once the problem is solved, back to hiding
Great job
The show does well, jumping btwn consciousness' in the early episodes.
Noticed another (I think) easter egg you missed. Is that a poppy field Steven runs by at the 4:05 mark? Poppies induce sleep of course like in the wizard of oz which was all a dream...
🤔 So dying merc Marc stubbles into Khonshu’s temple. Khonshu seizes the opportunity for an awesome avatar by cramming Marc’s soul into conveniently nearby archeologist, or maybe just fanboy tourist, Steven Grant? Works.
My guess isn't that Moon Knight is as separate and distinct as a whole personality, he is the alter ego of Marc just as Mr. Knight will turn out to be the alter ego of Steven. Also, I think there is a 3rd personality that we have yet to see who might not be as good as the other two, who will also have an alter ego.
7:50 If you’re going to compare Steven from the comics to “playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne,” it should really be the head of Christian Bale’s Batman on Hulk’s body since Robert Pattinson’s Batman didn’t use the “playboy billionaire” facade.
"Steven Grant is not the real identity. He is an alter identity. Marc is the real one."
That's an oversimplification and misunderstanding of how DID works. There's no distinction between a "real identity" and an "alter identity". Every identity in a DID system is an alter, and every alter is real. They're segmented off chunks of consciousness. Marc may or may not be the body's birth name and legal name, but the fact that one alter identifies with (or uses) that name, and may recognize the body and face as their own, doesn't make that alter any more real than any other, nor does it make them not an alter. It's convenient for a long term host to identify with the name and body (out of habit if not instinct), so it's not unusual for those things to align, but it doesn't indicate being more real or less of an alter than anyone else in the system. Neither does having false memories. Those are simply things the brain does to make sense of things.
Host, for clarification, is a word in this context describing the alter who's in control of the body for most of the time, dealing with everyday life, for any given extended period of time. It would appear that in Moon Knight's case, Marc was long term host up until a few months ago, when Steven became the new host (whether newly formed to fill that role or instinctively moved into it).
The security guard calls him Scotty twice, maybe that’s mr knight
Would be nice if they switch point of view of the identities in each episode !
I like the sneaky edited in Critical Role shout out.
Very "Me, Myself and Irene" vibes... LOL 😆
When Ryan said "RAID SHADOW LEGENDS..." I thought he was doing a meme.
Then I realised he was advertising them for real
A comment that will be seen by me a lot in all these moon knight videos, probably ad nauseum, but, I suffer the same psychological disorder, and I am deep in Egyptian mythos so I loved this soooooo much. Everyone go ahead and hate on me, it's cool, I get it it, but literally.....it may not be "me" typing this. It's so personal and I just fucking loved it so much
***POSSIBLE SPOILER***
You missed the part when Ethan Hawke's character mentions Amit's avatar betrayed her, and all the talks of Steven in the phone with his "mom". The way he finishes all those messages? Bye, alligator (or something else related to it. Sorry, I watched it in portuguese, don't know the original).
Steven was Amit's avatar.
This guy is amazing at sneaking ads in😂😂😂
Heroes that are kinda villains are my favorite kind
I love how there's a pic of Smeagol in the thumbnail lol 💀
One of these episodes got show his origin when he was in the Military
Really interesting comparison you missed. In the very end of Mr. Robot *SPOILER* it's revealed that the "Elliot" we've been watching isn't the real Elliot, but another alter who, like Steven, was unaware of the existence of the real Elliot.
hey, peter griffin here
i did the same analogy in the channel Emergency Awsome , with mark wanting to lay low as Steven, because the Monn God is too much to deal if, so he needs a break and creats Steven, rsrs
I love how RUclipsrs obviously know about the Raid Shadow Legends jokes but still talk about the game like you've never heard about it before
Steven works at a museum that has an ancient Egypt exhibit, it’s likely Mark sent him there for a reason.
I wonder if the brief scene showing him in a sharp suit looking very “playboy” was a nod to the version of Steven in the comics. His decision to change, seemingly because he didn’t seem comfortable, could be a nod to that.. or to a future mr knight turn.
I’m watching this video today and seeing that this came out four weeks ago is a manager spoiler alert because their scenes that you provide us with that aren’t even in the first episode.
I was gonna comment that too. I mean how the fuck he use those scenes, This was released on 31st march!!!
So what you’re saying is Edward Norton is Bruce Banner and Brad Pitt is the Hulk gotcha fight club finally figured out everyone
It's actually incorrect to say that either of them is the real one or just an alter. They're BOTH alters. There's an analogy that explains this really well. Take a piece of paper and rip it in half. Which half is the real one?
Is that Liam Neeson's voice talking to Steven? Never mind... It's F Murray Abraham voicing Khonshu.
Smigel from lords of the Rings and your little dog has the same voice..... :)
moon knight- i lve you and i am sooo hooked