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Rex & Pyra: Seeking a Second Chance - Challenger Approaching

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
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    Welcome to another episode of Challenger Approaching! In this series, we discuss characters who could find their way into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate or future entries, then go into ludicrous detail on what they would be like if they joined the fight for real!
    This time, we're taking a closer look at a duo who got a lot of attention leading up to Ultimate's original release. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 continued its series' rise to fame, and its dual protagonists of the Salvager-turned-Driver Rex and his Blade companion Pyra were widely considered frontrunners to join Smash. But things did not line up as many expected or hoped, and Rex and Pyra, as it turned out, were a little too late to make the base roster...and the first wave of DLC already had other plans.
    But what if the now-confirmed second Fighters Pass found a way to give these two--and their still very significant support base--a second chance? How could their signature abilities translate into a unique Smash moveset that'd resonate with anyone interested in them? Let's take a look.
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Комментарии • 431

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 4 года назад +128

    Delzethin is an excellent example of someone I can respect even when I disagree with them. It is clear our taste in video games and characters differs greatly, yet his methodical methods are ones I can't knock. He's my most-trusted Smash analyzer, and I always appreciate his character concepts, even when they aren't for characters I'm interested in.
    Well done, Delzethin!

    • @BigBossMan538
      @BigBossMan538 4 года назад +7

      Potato Patato His content is very thoughtful and his personality is very calm and rational. It’s inspiring in this day and age

  • @BulbaWhat98
    @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад +96

    Arms got a 2nd chance after missing out of the base game. This gives me more hope for Rex getting a 2nd chance as well

  • @HowlingGuild
    @HowlingGuild 4 года назад +107

    Considering the ARMS character announcement, I'd say Rex and Pyra's chances have only increased.

  • @blazarre7251
    @blazarre7251 3 года назад +11

    Well, you were HALF right!

  • @aggressivelymediocre350
    @aggressivelymediocre350 4 года назад +98

    This is my absolute most wanted fighter. I really hope they get in Fighter Pass 2, but my hopes are pretty low at this point.
    EDIT: Honestly, I’m not the biggest fan of this moveset. Affinity as a gimmick seems really unfun for a smash character, and a nightmare for free-for-all’s, which, understandably, the Smash team primarily develops for.
    It’s still really well put together though.

    • @BriefCasey795
      @BriefCasey795 4 года назад +1

      Seconded.

    • @yesimnotcreative6312
      @yesimnotcreative6312 4 года назад +8

      I think it would be better if Pyra was in the background, still give you buffs but now it gives you a focus on surviving rather than keeping track of both Pyra and yourself

    • @shantaeforsmash8287
      @shantaeforsmash8287 4 года назад +2

      Here's my ideal Fighters Pass 2: Twintelle - Arms, Shantae, Rex/Pyra, Doom guy, Bandana Dee, Steve - Minecraft

    • @kona236
      @kona236 3 года назад +2

      @@shantaeforsmash8287 well, you got Steve :)

    • @PKmaster12
      @PKmaster12 3 года назад

      @@yesimnotcreative6312 that’s exactly what I’ve been thinking

  • @SataSween
    @SataSween 3 года назад +14

    Imagine making a video about this 10 months before it actually happens this man is a visionary

  • @KareemHillJr
    @KareemHillJr 3 года назад +9

    Well, you were half-right...

  • @topsecret770
    @topsecret770 4 года назад +28

    I'mma stop you @13:04 no. Pyra is a heavy weight. Rex literally can not lift her. It's canon.

    • @topsecret770
      @topsecret770 3 года назад

      @@-spinel-7257 the joke has gone over your head.

    • @topsecret770
      @topsecret770 3 года назад

      @@-spinel-7257 oh.

  • @karooghomi1877
    @karooghomi1877 4 года назад +15

    This is amazing. Some things I’d change would be the ‘Down B’ switching Pyra to Mythra which changes their moves. The final smash could be Rex and Pneuma using Infinity Blade

    • @chimklee
      @chimklee 3 года назад +1

      Hello, I come to the future to day down b switches them

  • @Miisee
    @Miisee 4 года назад +47

    God I want these two in Smash so much. I really hope they are in Fighters Pass Volume 2.
    Edit: I would change down b to a blade switch which would allow the player to use Mythra. And I would have both her and Pyra be in the background on stage just like Pokémon Trainer. The tether that connects them would still be present and work just like it does in Xenoblade 2. I think for the blade specials own Pyra/Mythra should magically teleport beside Rex to perform those attacks. (The little effect that appears whenever you switch between blades can appear when Pyra/Mythra leaves Rex or goes to him).

    • @RoseGarden17
      @RoseGarden17 3 года назад +1

      I hope you like how they turned out

    • @Miisee
      @Miisee 3 года назад +1

      @@RoseGarden17
      Very much do! They're very fun.

  • @tommyblack6135
    @tommyblack6135 4 года назад +50

    Not a bad concept. I wish Mythra was incorporated somewhere, but I understand why she's missing.

    • @willflynn5777
      @willflynn5777 4 года назад +1

      Tommy Black same I was wondering when he was gonna mention Mythra

    • @newwave854
      @newwave854 4 года назад +3

      Addam and Mythra could been Rex and Pyra echoes in a future game

    • @shaharsaig9207
      @shaharsaig9207 4 года назад +2

      i dont think it that good of a concept
      i think rex thing should be switching blades, not affinity

    • @InfinityHS
      @InfinityHS 3 года назад +1

      She in now lmaoo shit

    • @pin4882
      @pin4882 3 года назад +1

      B R U H

  • @matthewwonks2534
    @matthewwonks2534 4 года назад +31

    This is so relevant now that an ARMS character is confirmed.

  • @huwareyou9512
    @huwareyou9512 3 года назад +14

    Pyra got in but Rex got chromed

  • @theplagueofpestilence8504
    @theplagueofpestilence8504 3 года назад +8

    He can see the future

    • @erickmaverick3128
      @erickmaverick3128 3 года назад +4

      Guess you could say he has foresight. :P

    • @seabass64
      @seabass64 3 года назад +4

      @@erickmaverick3128 no, he had *a vision*

  • @perriwinkleiii5361
    @perriwinkleiii5361 4 года назад +6

    One thing to add: stage choice.
    I considered Gormott, but that would be too similar to Gaur Plains. So I would go with Gramps the Titan, when he was still Rex's vessel (you fight on his back and swim in the Cloud Sea)

    • @thepixelman4776
      @thepixelman4776 4 года назад

      Perriwinkle III wait then would he still be on Rexs helmet?

    • @Golden12500
      @Golden12500 3 года назад +1

      Your Gramps idea aged like fine wine

  • @thefrubblewarrior4678
    @thefrubblewarrior4678 3 года назад +7

    ( 26:00 ) That's one
    ( 26:06 ) that's two, this must be a simple coincidence
    ( 26:14 ) that's three, alright now you're just cheating.

  • @conorb.1901
    @conorb.1901 4 года назад +15

    I would probably have Pyra stand in the back like Pokemon Trainer. In Xenoblade 2, no enemies can target your blades (with the exception of the arts that inflict Shackle Blade)

    • @cesars.9912
      @cesars.9912 4 года назад

      Technicallity in torna the golden country they can attack the blades 🤷

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 4 года назад +4

      @@cesars.9912 counterpoint: Rex and Pyra aren't playable in Torna (well, technically Pyra is, but she also doesn't exist during the story until the very end)

  • @RadiantBeachShulk
    @RadiantBeachShulk 4 года назад +21

    1. I'd rather have Pyra off to the side like Pokémon Trainer so you don't have to defend an AI non-fighter.
    2. You have to include Mythra! Just set down B as a blade switch between Pyra and Mythra where they give different damage and knockback stats. They have the same moveset in XC2 even.

    • @JK-yg1gf
      @JK-yg1gf 4 года назад

      I havent played xenoblade 2, but wouldnt the addition of Mythra a game spoiler?
      also, 3 characters in one (again) feels weird

    • @RadiantBeachShulk
      @RadiantBeachShulk 4 года назад

      @@JK-yg1gf Mythra appears before halfway through the game and in a ton of official art, and the game trailers all show her existence. She's not considered a spoiler by the Xenoblade community for that reason.

    • @JK-yg1gf
      @JK-yg1gf 4 года назад

      @@RadiantBeachShulk ok fine then
      but I still dont think that Mythra will be in
      not that it would be bad, it would be awesome
      but its pretty unlikely, imo

    • @heyactiongaming5788
      @heyactiongaming5788 3 года назад

      @@JK-yg1gf plus seven in xenoblade Chronicles 1 is in smash ultimate

    • @SmeeGuitar
      @SmeeGuitar 3 года назад +2

      you got pyra mythra pokemontrainer rex :D

  • @Aa-dc2xu
    @Aa-dc2xu 4 года назад +4

    I really love this take on Rex! Especially the affinity and blade specials. There's only 2 changes I would prefer:
    1. Have neutral b be a blade swap from Pyra to Mythra. The two would have different properties. Pyra's sword attacks would do flame damage like Roy and would be multi-hit, she would do more overall damage compared to Mythra. Whereas Mythra would have clean one-hit attacks similar to Shulk and her sword would be bigger and have more range, it would also do more knockback. To balance this out, the effects of both blades won't be very pronounced until you start to gain more affinity. I would switch double spin slash and make it his side b rather than up b, as up b would be the anchor shot. Rolling smash can be his f smash instead.
    2. I would have Pyra/Mythra being on the background of the stage, kinda like Pokemon Trainer. Pyra/Mythra will follow where Rex goes to charge his affinity over time. However, since the 2 of them are in the background they can't go off-stage. This means that Rex would be more fierce some on-stage rather than off-stage.

  • @dekaidoku
    @dekaidoku 4 года назад +23

    My Most Wanted Xeno Character for Smash that is actually possible (If you include Impossible, I choose Fei):
    1) KOS-MOS
    2) Rex and Pyra
    3) Elma

    • @dynos1999
      @dynos1999 4 года назад

      dekaidoku my fav. Is also Elma (or just cross straight up)

    • @newwave854
      @newwave854 4 года назад +2

      Jin is another interesting option, with or without Lora

    • @dekaidoku
      @dekaidoku 4 года назад

      @@newwave854 Break->Topple->Launch->Smash Allday, Everyday

    • @LiamScorer
      @LiamScorer 2 года назад

      Pyra and mythra got in

  • @gabogmr6571
    @gabogmr6571 4 года назад +25

    I think Rex and Pyra are going to be the second character after an arms rep gets revealed.

    • @BulbaWhat98
      @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад +2

      Gabriel Colon potentially. It’s even possible that the two DLC characters that Sakurai was originally thinking of adding after the 1st fighters pass were an Arms and XC2 Rep since both of those games missed their chance in the base game mainly because of timing

    • @gabogmr6571
      @gabogmr6571 4 года назад +2

      @@BulbaWhat98 True.

    • @BulbaWhat98
      @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад

      Struba it’s possible

    • @gabogmr6571
      @gabogmr6571 4 года назад +1

      @@BulbaWhat98 Due to covid 19,I don't think we are going to get a third party fighter after an arms character.I think it is going to be an another 1st party character.

    • @BulbaWhat98
      @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад

      Gabriel Colon possibly

  • @That_One_Gaming_Guy
    @That_One_Gaming_Guy 3 года назад +6

    I'm glad that they ended up actually getting a second chance, even thought Rex isn't the fighter, he'll be with her. I love Pyra's/Mythra's inclusion, they finally got what they deserved.

    • @That_One_Gaming_Guy
      @That_One_Gaming_Guy 3 года назад

      Also Rex and Mythra could an echo fighter, down-b and final will change of course, however I don't know what else.

  • @erickmaverick3128
    @erickmaverick3128 4 года назад +28

    Just looking at your interpretation of Rex & Pyra makes me want them even more. I mean, who know? People are still demanding for them to be in, so they could get that second chance. Here's to hoping.

    • @raphaelmarquez9650
      @raphaelmarquez9650 4 года назад +3

      If I learned anything from Smash 4's DLC (Inkling and K. Rool didn't become DLC fighters after their post-launch Mii costumes came out), Rex & Pyra's chances are done for in this game.

    • @numbuh1507
      @numbuh1507 4 года назад

      Save your hope for something else

    • @gabogmr6571
      @gabogmr6571 4 года назад

      @@numbuh1507 Stop being mean to erik

    • @gabogmr6571
      @gabogmr6571 4 года назад +1

      @@raphaelmarquez9650 Same goes for you,Be nice to him.I can tell you are the one of them who make up fan rules.

    • @raphaelmarquez9650
      @raphaelmarquez9650 4 года назад

      @@gabogmr6571 Where in my post was I being mean to him?

  • @DJRainbowYT
    @DJRainbowYT 3 года назад +3

    Yo I’m from the future. Rex and Pyra didn’t get in, BUT Pyra and Mythra did!!

  • @Varindran
    @Varindran 4 года назад +15

    This is my Most wanted newcomer and Xenoblade 2 is my most FAVORITE switch game. Was my first xeno series game and now i cant wait for the Xenoblade 1 remake on switch.

  • @DICEBOY22
    @DICEBOY22 4 года назад +4

    I hear all these Smash baby casuals...
    Rex and Pyra
    Rex and Pyra
    Rex and Pyra
    ______
    YOU CANT HAVE PYRA WITHOUT MYTHRA!!!!

  • @christophertornow6482
    @christophertornow6482 4 года назад +5

    I love how excited you get when explaining these move sets. Very enjoyable! Here is to hoping Rex and Pyra get the love they deserve! I think having alts that swap Mythra for Pyra would be neat as well!

  • @BulletBillSoilder
    @BulletBillSoilder 4 года назад +13

    Triom but lets make that a quintet with Mythra (considering Mythra is /not/ a spoiler and was in trailers and thus, someone they wanted the players to know about before the game came out) and spoiler.
    -because Pyra/Mythra transform into them and each other-
    But yeah, personally I would've swapped Anchor Shot to up-b as Rex uses that to get back to solid ground when salvaging, you could still have it be used side-ways as well by simply aiming it. Then side-b being double spinning edge while neutral b would be blade swap, specifically into Mythra.
    Then uh... the FS being *spoiler* because Sakurai has shown he... really doesn't care about not spoiling games in Smash.
    But honestly I'd be fine with this... as long as Mythra was present too. You can't have one without the other when it comes to Pyra and Mythra. Literally.

  • @blainecords1251
    @blainecords1251 4 года назад +9

    It’s a great video I love your ideas I personally would like to see a blade switch idea even with only mythra. I understand where you stand but I feel it feels like the game more thank you for your hard work

  • @antimatterstudios8395
    @antimatterstudios8395 4 года назад +6

    I think instead of a Pyra/Mythra switch like everyone is suggesting I’m hoping that if they got in that he’d have a bunch of blades that don’t have the same specials, with blades such as Roc or Wulfric being added. I also think it should be a more Pokémon trainer style mechanic, which would fit the character a lot better than an ice climbers one.
    Also he has a 3 hit jab combo in the game which could be used to pay homage to it. F tilt could be like the hit he makes after using Anchor-shot in the game. I think Swordbash could also be used as a forward smash, being stronger if it hits from behind. Double spinning edge would work as a good downsmash.
    Rolling smash would probably send Rex straight down in the air like to how backslash does to Shulk because of his animation when doing the move.
    I’m just worried what Rex will do during specials and how they’ll target the opponent, and he should have something over his UI showing what level specials he’s on.
    Down taunt is perfect

  • @dave9515
    @dave9515 4 года назад +3

    I have waited over 2 years for Rex and Pyra now. Rex and Pyra are my most wanted first party rep in smash now and also my most wanted rep in smash as of right now.

  • @ShanoaSSB
    @ShanoaSSB 4 года назад +8

    Damn Rex might be slow, but you gave him a lot of sauce in this concept.
    I'm more excited about the possibility than ever now. 👀

  • @alejandromoreno6879
    @alejandromoreno6879 4 года назад +1

    Pyra is canonically heavy AF according to rex when he tries to lift her with his hook

  • @chrislemay3807
    @chrislemay3807 4 года назад +21

    Well, Rex's chances to become playable just increased heavily

    • @dave9515
      @dave9515 4 года назад +4

      Man i hope so because i want them in smash so badly

    • @chrislemay3807
      @chrislemay3807 4 года назад +1

      @@dave9515 Same here. Rex and Aegis were the only characters I actually wanted as newcomers to Ultimate. While their chances are way higher now, I'm still not expecting it to be honest

    • @dave9515
      @dave9515 4 года назад +3

      @@chrislemay3807 Yeah i know what you mean. But i will still hold out and hope even if i feel its pointless. If Byleth whose game came out in 2019 and ARMS who barely missed the cut like Rex and Pyra got in then i feel at this point i would be real upset now if we didn't see them make it into the game this pass.

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 3 года назад

      His chances are now zero

    • @chrislemay3807
      @chrislemay3807 3 года назад

      @@KevSB07 You right you right. Maybe he'll get his chance another day

  • @jonssogaming8255
    @jonssogaming8255 4 года назад +12

    Let’s be honest, Rex is the closest we’ll get to Scorpion in Smash with his neutral special.

  • @cmcgee3500
    @cmcgee3500 3 года назад +5

    i come from the feuture pyra and mythra are out greatpredicting

  • @genuineangusbeef8697
    @genuineangusbeef8697 4 года назад +11

    You're content is really well done, but holy hell the melodrama you have for each character sets the wrong tone. I get that you weren't personally satisfied with the DLC picks so far but it's definitely worth looking forward at this point.

  • @shardcollectorfilms6575
    @shardcollectorfilms6575 3 года назад +5

    Uhh... It kind of happened... sorta...

  • @Steelbleeder
    @Steelbleeder 4 года назад +9

    This is one of my big 3 most wanted. (Along with Waluigi and Master Chief) I really hope nintendo doesn’t consider them too old to be marketable.

    • @numbuh1507
      @numbuh1507 4 года назад

      Save your hope for something else

    • @Steelbleeder
      @Steelbleeder 4 года назад +5

      Daniel Lopes Lima I don’t want anything else so no.

  • @eldritchangel4058
    @eldritchangel4058 3 года назад +5

    10 months later...

  • @KemanSituation
    @KemanSituation 4 года назад +5

    2 days bevore the direct that announced an ARMS rep.. not bad forsight, not bad!

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 4 года назад +13

    ARMS got its 2nd chance!

  • @BulbaWhat98
    @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад +8

    God I hope Rex and Pyra make it. They’re my most wanted newcomers and I don’t care if Rex is another anime sword fighter, as he’d be unique. There’s also the fact that Byleth made it in, and as much as I love him, I won’t deny that it’s pretty unfair how Rex couldn’t get in for being too new yet Byleth made it in whose game was released after XC2, granted it’s likely much easier to include newer characters as DLC than in the base game since the main focus is on the DLC.

    • @numbuh1507
      @numbuh1507 4 года назад

      That's because Sakurai doesn't have a sexual fetish for Xenoblade like he does for Fire Emblem.

    • @BulbaWhat98
      @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад +7

      Daniel Lopes Lima Firstly, that’s not true. Sakurai said he believes there are too many FE characters. Secondly, Nintendo chose the DLC, not Sakurai. Thirdly, Sakurai stated he wanted to add in Rex but couldn’t since the timing didn’t work out so he was given a Mii costume instead

    • @thepixelman4776
      @thepixelman4776 4 года назад

      Daniel Lopes Lima haha so funny.

    • @BulbaWhat98
      @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад +3

      My hopes for Rex and Pyra are even higher now that an Arms Rep made it in. If Arms can get a 2nd chance after being screwed over in the base roster for being too new at the time, then I think it’s time for Rex & Pyra to do the same

    • @Aa-dc2xu
      @Aa-dc2xu 4 года назад

      @@numbuh1507 What are you talking about? Sakurai loved Xenoblade 2 and praised it's developers when it came out.

  • @Medleypon
    @Medleypon 4 года назад +6

    I really like the moveset! Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is probably one of my favorite games on the Switch. Glad to see that Rex and Pyra are still getting love.
    I've been stuck on a certain fight in Mor Ardain for a year now. But I have plenty of time to attempt to win against her. Speaking of which, stay safe!

  • @dave9515
    @dave9515 4 года назад +10

    I really hope Rex and Pyra get into smash ultimate as fighters. I was so depressed when the rex mii happened but with Byleth and Now ARMS happening and Fighters pass 2, i hope this is their time to break out and become fighters. At this point i would be so upset if they didn't make the cut now since ARMS got in despite barely missing the cut for the same reason as Rex and Pyra. I am really hoping Rex and Pyra are DLC in this pass.

    • @Aa-dc2xu
      @Aa-dc2xu 4 года назад +3

      Yeah, it would be really disappointing if a game mostly considered as mediocre got another chance but not a hidden gem like XC2.

    • @Irraptured
      @Irraptured 3 года назад +3

      Your wish has been granted

    • @dave9515
      @dave9515 3 года назад +1

      @@Irraptured :)

  • @raphaelmarquez9650
    @raphaelmarquez9650 4 года назад +7

    There's a chance that Rex & Pyra won't make it to the next Smash game when Xenoblade 3 comes out, though Elma's still has a shot since Xenoblade X is its own separate series with a confirmed future.

    • @infern24
      @infern24 4 года назад +2

      rex and pyra are more likely with definitive edition than elma you know. considering 1 and 2 are connected I don't know why you're acting like they can't be added now when definitive edition is dropping and is having all those remake connections to 2 like alvis's redesign. not to mention the fact arms came out same year as xenoblade 2, and is getting added now also

  • @parttheskies4325
    @parttheskies4325 3 года назад +5

    Well, you got Pyra! :D

  • @DoctorMinjinx
    @DoctorMinjinx 4 года назад +6

    Rex and Pyra were the most unfairly treated Smash rejects imo. I have diffrent ideas for a moveset but I really enjoy and can get behind this one.

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 3 года назад

      Hell, their is hardly any sick xbc2 music in Smash a double massive injustice.

    • @AlphaC0re
      @AlphaC0re 3 года назад

      well well well

    • @DoctorMinjinx
      @DoctorMinjinx 3 года назад +1

      @@AlphaC0re Indeed. Really happy with what we have.

    • @AlphaC0re
      @AlphaC0re 3 года назад +1

      @@DoctorMinjinx me too

  • @abdielsantana8444
    @abdielsantana8444 4 года назад +6

    Suddenly their chances to be in are back, now that an Arms characters are in and Sakurai wanted to add Rex

    • @brianv9242
      @brianv9242 4 года назад

      Abdiel Santana goddamn it I hope you’re right

  • @___________1876
    @___________1876 3 года назад +3

    You got it half right.

  • @darkdoctor1915
    @darkdoctor1915 3 года назад +5

    Actually instead of rex and pyra, what about Pyra and Mythra?

  • @psb123x
    @psb123x 4 года назад +4

    Good moveset. But I'm not sure if it's my favorite concept I've seen for this character. But honestly with how many ways you could implement them, at this point if they do make it in I'll probably just be happy to have the character. With the options available for the moveset, it's starting to sound like actively wanting it to be built a certain way is just setting expectations too high.
    One question. Say the Up B is used when Rex and Pyra both are about to fall off stage. What happens to Pyra?

  • @papaG6423
    @papaG6423 4 года назад +7

    I think they have a VERY high chance for fighters pass 2

    • @memelord9463
      @memelord9463 3 года назад

      Dam u were right

    • @papaG6423
      @papaG6423 3 года назад

      @@memelord9463 I was right on a prediction for once in my life. I even thought of this comment the moment Pyra was revealed

  • @TheGrandbull
    @TheGrandbull 4 года назад +14

    I really hope we get heavy for smash or some valve character

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 4 года назад +3

      never happening because valve has no connection or history with Nintendo what so ever so it's not happening in smash ultimate

    • @Thebattlecats2001
      @Thebattlecats2001 4 года назад

      Terry Syvertson that very true

    • @LukePS7013
      @LukePS7013 4 года назад +2

      Gordon Freeman seems most likely to me

    • @Thebattlecats2001
      @Thebattlecats2001 4 года назад

      Luke Spencer well his games doesn’t have realed to Nintendo

    • @TheGrandbull
      @TheGrandbull 4 года назад +1

      Terry Syvertson having past with Nintendo doesn’t matter. Sakurai said as long as they can be fun, and are from a video game, then there eligible for smash

  • @Foulowe59
    @Foulowe59 4 года назад +5

    Spirits finally do not deconfirms !

  • @icemage8837
    @icemage8837 4 года назад +4

    Papa sakurai plz bless us with this beautiful fighter and music tracks

    • @numbuh1507
      @numbuh1507 4 года назад

      "You want the prontagonists of the upcoming fire emblem? You got it!"

    • @AlphaC0re
      @AlphaC0re 3 года назад

      @@numbuh1507 bruh considering you are a fan of Xenoblade I thought you would have some respect for underrated JRPGs. If you’re gonna hate on characters because they use a sword and then hate on their game then leave the Xenoblade fanbase

  • @Skyblade12
    @Skyblade12 4 года назад +4

    Yeah, the algorithm can be weird about not alerting people. Glad you’re keeping the content coming, though.

  • @DamianDan23
    @DamianDan23 4 года назад +3

    Something I hate about people requesting Rex and Pyra is that they always request
    Only Rex
    or Only Pyra and Mythra
    that makes no sense, they are supposed to be together and separating them is like making both ice climbers different fighters

  • @donovan802
    @donovan802 3 года назад +2

    WISH GRANTED, DUDE!!!
    WELL, HALF-GRANTED.

  • @ohboywillywacker3402
    @ohboywillywacker3402 4 года назад +2

    I ain’t gonna lie If they add rex and pyra to smash I’ll actually take the time to get into the series because this video made the series and it’s characters interesting. 👀

  • @thedoorman6940
    @thedoorman6940 4 года назад +7

    Hhhmm... “Rex & Pyra”... I see a problem here, let me fix it... “Rex & Pyra AND Mythra”. There we go :3
    And yes, I saw the end of the video, and I heard why you didn’t include Mythra. But I don’t agree for a couple reasons. 1, just cuz they share an aspect to another character on surface level, doesn’t mean they can’t do their own thing. I mean, for the Creators sake look at the Street Fighters and Terry, or, Any of the Sword peoples
    Second, you can still have her there and make things comprehensible
    My view on Rex would be... Something like yours actually. Well, in terms of Specials and regular combos. Only things I’d change is have Pyra be in the background to support Rex, as in game Blades, like Persona’s can’t be hurt. At least in gameplay. Also I Would add Mythra to the line up. And have Switching between forms act like how Inklings refill Ink, Shield + B and BOOM, switched. Or something like that. I’d also make a way for the Aegis to be playable alongside Rex. That’s where I pull from the Torna side of things, Switching who’s in control. Mapped to Down B, it could be a counter that does damage to the opponent and heals a little like in Torna, or just a way to switch control. Then when you hold Down B, that’s when the Blade Specials activate, sorta like how you hold B for Shulk to show all the Monado artes at once, or how Terry has 2 Specials for his Side B. When Rex is switched for Pyra or Mythra, I’d say keep the specials say for natural B as the Aegis don’t have no grapple hook :3
    And that’s just what I think could happen IF they get in. I’m honestly on the side that thinks Spirits deconfirm people, and it’s not cuz I agree with fan rules. Yes last game Trophy’s didn’t deconfirm as Lucas and Mewtwo came back, not in that order, and they had trophies. But the context for Spirits is different than Trophy’s. A trophy is just a collectible, nothing more. A spirit is said to be the actual essence of the person it’s based on... or item. And yeah there are different versions of people like the Wii Fit Trainers and Mario, but that’s just it, different versions. As in they might have been taken from another place and time, and the fighters are the Prime versions. I don’t really see two Prime versions of fighters existing side by side, even if for example, you use the Smash ended of Shantae to separate her from her Spirit form, cuz it already is a thing
    The way I see it, Sakurai did his best to make this the biggest crossover not just with the fighters themselves, but with Spirits too, even Assist Trophies. As sucky as it may seem to some people, I don’t think he’s gonna change his views on this any time soon, and would rather make new Fighters not in the game, which may be why we didn’t get any Three Houses content Until Teach joined in. Of course I could always be proven wrong, there’s nothing confirming either side. But when I go into speculation I do my best to keep this in mind
    That said, if Rex isn’t a fighter, I have an alternative for a XC2 rep... I mentioned Torna didn’t I? Lora, Jin & Haze. I added Haze cuz I don’t feel entirely right leaving her out, we’d technically get a Xenoblade Villain out of it, the Torna mechanics would make more sense, and we’d get Torna music, as well as any other music from XC2 not in the game, as well as spirits like Brigid(and possibly Pandy why wasn’t she heeere!?). That’s what I think anyways
    Am I done yet? Props to anyone who read this whole thing, I didn’t expect it to be this long, so some things might be unclear. Need clarification to all 2 of you who read this? Let me know. Am I done? Yes? Good, Ima take a 1000 year old nap. Dear Creator this was tough...

  • @thelavaslug5465
    @thelavaslug5465 3 года назад +2

    Well, well, well... That did not go the way I thought it would!

  • @THEbbqsause
    @THEbbqsause 4 года назад +2

    I was expecting an anchor shot grab, but a special makes more sense now that I think about it

  • @DICEBOY22
    @DICEBOY22 4 года назад +1

    Down B should be to shift between Pyra, Mythra and Roc changing up move properties with reason to use them.
    Though.....? Roc would require a whole Smash move change so just Mythra would be good.

  • @schnader
    @schnader 3 года назад +4

    They did it 🙏🏼

  • @julianlamonica9450
    @julianlamonica9450 3 года назад +4

    Don’t you worry I really think that they still have chance.

    • @raptorrrr
      @raptorrrr 3 года назад +1

      U were right

    • @GalaxyRoyal
      @GalaxyRoyal 3 года назад +1

      Only Pyra & Mythra as playable while Rex joins only in her final smash!

  • @zferolie
    @zferolie 4 года назад +2

    nice video as always. WHile I think the moveset could have went otherways, like i would have loved a combo of Ice climbers and Zelda/Shiek(a duo team combo but you can swqap who is in the lead to change the moveset), I can respect you view on it.
    Now, I would love to see you do a Shantae Moveset. Your interesting take on that would be cool to hear.

  • @SoloJustus
    @SoloJustus 4 года назад +1

    12:58 😳
    Rex: SOOO...... HEAVY......

  • @ricknaturalls2065
    @ricknaturalls2065 3 года назад +3

    How does it feel to now have done three movesets that ended up in the game?

  • @reapr9046
    @reapr9046 4 года назад +1

    Rex is my most wanted fighter.

  • @prowolf633
    @prowolf633 2 года назад +6

    Pyra and Mythra may be in Ultimate, but I'm holding out for Rex to join them in future Smash games, no matter what Sakurai says!

  • @BulbaWhat98
    @BulbaWhat98 4 года назад +3

    Do you think you’ll do a moveset concept video on an Arms character now that one is confirmed?

  • @thevideogamesepicbits2384
    @thevideogamesepicbits2384 4 года назад +2

    I really like your take on the characters, but as a person who play Xenoblade 2 and Torna: The Golden Country, my most wanted after that is just Mythra. Thanks to the Torna expansion, I think that the central character of all the story arround Xenoblade 2 lore is more representative, plus the take in Torna where the Blades fights for itselfs is a realy good concept. #Torinosu5

  • @nathaniel7165
    @nathaniel7165 4 года назад +8

    I would love to see those Rex and Pyra as fighters, but I feel like the more vocal side of the community would be unhappy (to say the least) with another “anime sword fighter.”

    • @thepsyshyster8243
      @thepsyshyster8243 4 года назад +6

      You might be surprised. From what I've noticed, many use "anime swordfighter" as a codename for Fire Emblem characters. I've seen several people who despise the inclusion of Byleth and Chrom for being "anime swordfighters" while also having characters like Lloyd Irving and Rex & Pyra being some of their most wanted characters. However, we won't know for certain how the populace will react unless this duo finds their way onto Fighter Pass 2.

    • @nathaniel7165
      @nathaniel7165 4 года назад +2

      ThePsyShyster I mean all we can really do is hope that the reception is positive if they get in

    • @BigFearedBalloon
      @BigFearedBalloon 4 года назад

      For me, as someone who loves Xenoblade Chronicles 2, I would be one who would be unhappy about Rex and Pyra simply for the fact, it just feels like a Fire Shulk Clone with a Grappling Hook (Plus hatred for Pyra in the main game of Xenoblade 2). If they added other blades that aren't the Aegis, I would actually enjoy that but the Aegis itself doesn't lend itself well to good moveset potential.
      Otherwise I just have a preference for any other Driver like Nia, Zeke or Tora to get in over Rex. I enjoy their blades more, the weapons are cool concepts (rings, a sword that transforms into a staff, a drill shield), they switch blades and have affinity mechanics if they wanted to implement them etc. I just feel Rex ends up as the weakest choice overall and with how I feel meh about him in the story (Love him in comedic light hearted scenes, hate him most of the time in serious story sections) I just don't care for him for Smash (and don't get me started on Pyra). But that's my personal bias. I would just prefer not to always keep choosing the protagonist each time for Smash Reps.

    • @nathaniel7165
      @nathaniel7165 4 года назад +1

      Big Feared Balloon I fully understand that, but don’t get me wrong, I would love to see another xenoblade rep, and the most likely option would be Rex and Pyra. Personally I would love to see Elma, but that’s just me

    • @BigFearedBalloon
      @BigFearedBalloon 4 года назад +2

      @@nathaniel7165 Sadly I have barely "barely" played any of Xenoblade X. Started the opening, created the character, battled some enemies in the field, then didn't pick it up again. Not because it was bad, but this was during the age where I didn't want to play on my Wii U due to me being lazy. Would be nice to understand the appeal of Elma someday though. Hopefully through a port but I doubt that is happening anytime soon.

  • @jontybugg1311
    @jontybugg1311 4 года назад +1

    No joke I’m here because I found out about Rexs mini costume online and he was my dream character and I nearly cried so I searched Rex in smash and with this hope it is good

  • @thepixelman4776
    @thepixelman4776 4 года назад +1

    Great video dude. Also I do have ideas on how Rex could still be in 1. I imagine the spirit board would be the other Xc2 spirits plus the main blades not in the game plus the main villains and maybe something from Torna. 2. Rex and Pyra could just get a joint spirit of them together as a fighter. 3. There are plenty of songs that would fit for smash not in and maybe something from X. 4. One last point that’s probably nothing but I noticed is that for the icons you can choose for online, Rex isn’t one, yet Pyra and Mythra are. Man I’m keeping my fingers crossed. ;)

    • @dynos1999
      @dynos1999 4 года назад

      The Pixel Man mmm, xenoblade X would make it allll worth it, even just a song

  • @joshuarivas9140
    @joshuarivas9140 3 года назад +2

    Ok who is going to tell him

  • @WilliamiteWilliamiteStudiosWWS
    @WilliamiteWilliamiteStudiosWWS 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can you make a moveset concept for torch the Dutch angel dragon

  • @tuckersins9904
    @tuckersins9904 3 года назад +2

    because of the next challenger pack likely not being revealed at some big event i could see rex taking the next spot. after the arms second chance rex is a given. i could see him being revealed in a march nintnedo direct or sakurai direct. either way please get my boy in. i gotta have drifting souls playing while i’m beating the crap out of my friends

  • @Endiepup
    @Endiepup 4 года назад +4

    I Don’t Understand The “Sprits Were Put In Before DLC Consideration” Argument. Like, Sure, That’s Probably True, But How Does It Affect There Chances Now? They Have Just As Much Of A Chance Then When They Were First Decided As A Spirit As They Do Now.

    • @idon896
      @idon896 4 года назад +5

      Dude, why do you capitalize every word?

    • @Endiepup
      @Endiepup 4 года назад +1

      It’s Just More Comfortable For Me

    • @thepixelman4776
      @thepixelman4776 4 года назад

      To be fair, the spirits of Rex and Pyra use their only game render aside from the master armor. Maybe it’d be a shot of them together with some concept art.

    • @MelancholyJoker19
      @MelancholyJoker19 4 года назад +3

      Because Spirits were meant as another way to represent characters in the game, but since Sakurai knows the demand for certain characters it could mean that they might have at least been discussed with Nintendo

    • @Aa-dc2xu
      @Aa-dc2xu 4 года назад

      @@MelancholyJoker19 I mean, most of the ARMS main characters are spirits and we now have an ARMS character coming to Smash. The only other possibility is that the new ARMS character is from ARMS 2.

  • @LexrytXIV
    @LexrytXIV 4 года назад +1

    Hey, so i know you probably get this a lot, but i love your analysis, and id love to see your take on Sora from Kingdom Hearts.

  • @yepjustanormalfan
    @yepjustanormalfan 3 года назад +1

    Little did they know......

  • @spoileralert7904
    @spoileralert7904 3 года назад +2

    BOY DO I GOT NEWS FOR YOU

  • @SmeeGuitar
    @SmeeGuitar 3 года назад +1

    this guy must be happy now

  • @powerprotoman
    @powerprotoman 4 года назад +1

    this video aged both like milk and wine in the span of two days and thats impressive wine ebcuase now theres a genuine chance and milk because of spring man.....not saying hes gonna be the arms rep(im 90% sure itll be ribbon girl 9% on minmin and 1% on a suprsie ARMS2 character)

  • @UltimateDragonX9999
    @UltimateDragonX9999 3 года назад +3

    This aged like wine

    • @starlenestilltouringyoutub2116
      @starlenestilltouringyoutub2116 3 года назад +2

      Actually it aged like beer. The one got a second chance and the other got sadly cucked (Chrom treatment style).

  • @Magic0YT
    @Magic0YT 3 года назад +1

    I can see Rex & Pyra as last dlc spot, I dont entirely agree with the moveset you gave us Delzethin, since sakurai himself said that they love to incorporate new mechanics and fresh adaptations from their original game, I believe if rex makes it to smash, the moveset will be strongly similar to the way they auto attack with default XYBA buttons plus more fluid and with other strong options. While that is my personal opinion is okay to say yours is also possible. We will have to wait

  • @MManiaZone
    @MManiaZone 4 года назад +2

    I've never played Xenoblade 2, but I really like the moveset.

    • @Aa-dc2xu
      @Aa-dc2xu 4 года назад +2

      You should definitely try XC2! It's really fun and has great characters/story. It might be my favourite switch game at the moment along with FE Three Houses.

  • @yankee1147
    @yankee1147 4 года назад +1

    His mechanic should be this
    He can switch Blades between Pyra and Mythra. But after 15 seconds each.
    Pyra does more damage and Mythra does more knockback
    Pneuma is a comeback mechanic
    To keep it very simple. It may not be exactly like it in the games but its seems like for mechanic.

  • @sunflowers280
    @sunflowers280 3 года назад +4

    I mean if STEVE, a living meme and Video Game icon can get in, Rex and Pyra should 100% get in eventually. My bet is for fighter 8 to be them.

    • @marrqi7wini54
      @marrqi7wini54 3 года назад +2

      Well Pyra is in.

    • @GalaxyRoyal
      @GalaxyRoyal 3 года назад +2

      Alongside Mythra

    • @seabass64
      @seabass64 3 года назад

      Steve was from the best selling game in the world and the 6th most requested fighter, being a meme doesn't change anything

  • @ChuckRuck523
    @ChuckRuck523 4 года назад +1

    Arms made it when Springman was an assist trophy first. Min Min was also a spirit before she became a fighter so the chances are pretty high now. Plus Sakurai really wanted Rex in so maybe this is his chance

  • @BriefCasey795
    @BriefCasey795 4 года назад

    Not a fan of the mechanic and different aspects of the moveset, but I do appreciate your explanation of the background segment. It was nice to listen to, especially with how you put "It didn't give the closure Rex fans were left without" into words so well.
    Nonetheless, I still hope Rex makes it in Vol. 2 and it's good to see some more thought about him.

  • @joozhuah8017
    @joozhuah8017 4 года назад +1

    What happens if Pyra is KO’d? I’m not sure if the idea of Pyra being vulnerable is good. It might make Rex too inconsistent

  • @HeroponAlexander
    @HeroponAlexander 4 года назад +3

    This would be a great fighter, but the one I want the most is Amaterasu.

  • @vicbaez
    @vicbaez 4 года назад +1

    pyra's spirit battle was a bitch to defeat.

  • @GodOfThings
    @GodOfThings 4 года назад +1

    I can't say I'm interested in Rex at all, but I appreciate your work all the same.

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 4 года назад +1

    **BYLETH HAS ENTERED THE CHAT**

  • @MikeDaddyMCS
    @MikeDaddyMCS 4 года назад +1

    I was waiting for you to say where Mythra comes in, honestly I think that Roc could have been used for a recovery move and possibly some aerials and throws.

  • @infern24
    @infern24 4 года назад +1

    wait....but what about mythra, or even the form above mythra? mythra isn't even really a spoiler since the trailers gave her away, plus the fact she's in torna. how can you have pyra do all this and not have mythra? not having blade switching is a lost opportunity

  • @champion5531
    @champion5531 4 года назад +1

    I got an idea who I think would of been good, but unfortunately there is a problem with something do when the series is technically already dead. To me I would of loved to see a Skylanders character as a fighter, but that would be really unlikely. But the series was great at times. And I would think it would of been cool to see a skylanders character like Spyro because of the first game, Tree Rex because of giants, Washbuckler because swapforce, or even snapshot. But as we can see Skylanders is really likely to be dead anyway.