Octoling: A Second Splatoon Rep? - Challenger Approaching
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Welcome to another episode of Challenger Approaching! In this series, we discuss characters who may be invited to a future entry of Super Smash Bros, then go into ludicrous detail on what they could be like if they joined the fight for real!
Our Challenger this time is someone who is bound to have some attention sent their way when the time comes. Splatoon's meteoric rise to prominence has all but ensured the series will have more content in the next Smash game--whenever that is--and its main choice for a new fighter is the Inklings' eight-armed counterparts. Some suggestions have including making a playable Octoling an Inkling echo fighter or even a set of alternate costumes, but there is so much to work with that a mostly unique moveset isn't out of the question!
But how could such a thing be handled? Which weapons and skills Inkling's moveset doesn't use could go into Octoling's design? And how well could they justify being the Luigi to Inkling's Mario? Let's take a look.
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I think a cool idea for an alternate up B could be Zipcaster, could basically be a grapple recovery that lets you do a jump off the wall or grapple straight to stage making it unique. I liked the moveset overall, if brella could be incorperated into their shields I think thatd be cool as well, I really liked the approach you took in the vid.
I think it would be cool if it behaved like byleths up b how they do a little jump when they grapple to walls but you can control the jump and also angle the way the zipcaster moves
Cool how you’ve been talking a little interest Splatoon’s representation in SSBU whatever that may be.
Y'know what? I agree!
Yoo prochara
The thing about it is that Zipcaster is a special weapon. I.e an "ultimate" as other team based games refer it as. I'm pretty sure the Octoling would share Inkling's up b
I love how the Burst Bomb was used in the down smash - the sub weapon is used a lot as a utility and combo tool a _lot_ in the original series.
Really shows how big splatoon is that both Inkling and Octoling are the two of the most obvious and likely characters to ever be speculated for smash.
I'm still surprised Octolings didn't make it in time to be alts or echos during Ultimate's run.
@@erickmaverick3128 Octo expansion was probably announced to late for them to get in.
I mean not necessarily, I wasn't sure they'd be able to work in the ink mechanic... turns out they just decided not to
@@erickmaverick3128 wasn’t the inkling developed around splatoon 1
@@mann-nova9392 what do you mean “they just decided not to?”
I think one potential skin they could have, both octolings, and for the inklings to receive, is the Salmon Run slopsuit. Just make that the fourth alt for both characters. Salmon Run has already cemented itself as a series favorite, so it deserves a reference her and there.
hell yeah, Raven Beak's in the poll again. 100% voting for him, that'd be a SICK moveset
Imagine if his dialogue was in Chozo, with translations like in Dread.
At this point, I agree that Octolings are a when rather then an if for Smash Bros. But for a character that seems perfect to be an Echo Fighter, I'm interested to see what kind of original moveset you can create for them.
Moveset Thoughts: Interesting that you gave them the exact same stats as Inkling, it makes sense, but I find odd in a good way. The moveset itself works pretty well all-around, echoing Inkling when it makes sense to, but I really like the Octobrush being put into their aerials, that's creative and it makes their air game different from Inkling in an interesting way.
As noted in the video, Splatoon is more than big enough to justify a second unique character. And considering that it’s an in-house Nintendo franchise, I’d be genuinely shocked if it doesn’t get a second representative next time around. Same thing happened with Animal Crossing last time. It grew too big for Smash to ignore anymore, & now we have two characters.
@@Neoxon619 Here's the thing though, you could say that about literally any echo or clone in the series and a lot of them come from series bigger than Splatoon. At best making Octos a semi-clone like the Spacies and Isabelle would be ideal.
I think the Octolings actually work pretty well as a semi-clone. Sorta like Ryu & Ken, Villager & Isabelle, Ness & Lucas, etc. I love the concept you have, though! Kinda sad Phoenix Wright isn’t in the options, but I’d love to see your take on Raven Beak!
What if the Octolings were a playable character in smash bros ultimate legends
This really improves my day! I always wonder about the inklings/octolings in smash cause there’s SO much content in splatoon to make so many movesets out of!
Brellas, Splatlings, and Chargers aren’t in this or the inkling’s moveset and it’s so fun to imagine how you could represent it all
We're saving those for the 3rd playable species.
@@ZGlove.they’re gonna add nautilus’s and they can only use the nautilus (the best weapon)
I always wondered why the octolings weren't made as an echo fighter or a skin, they are literally perfect for them to be almost an exact clone for the inklings
they were mii fighters 💀
@@CodeKirby Mii fighters aren’t characters 💀
Military training. One plays for keeps, the other is from the Grun Squadron Memorial Academy.
A cool concept for Octoling that could reference the Octo Expansion from splatoon 2 could be to implement specials into… well… the specials. Like the inkjet being pulled out for the up special or a baller explosion for the down special. The side and neutral could remain normal, but I think it would be cool to see a reference to when octolings first became playable
But I think the ink jet could be in the background as a final smash and also that could be a good idea
Yeah I especially like this given the fact that the octo expansion used them a lot more.
I’m surprised they didn’t think about splat 1 rival, fuzzy, and sanitized octolings as an alt. That on its own provides a new ink color and cool skin. Plus that would be 100% appreciated. Playable enemy octolings for the win!
One approach I considered when thinking about how colors would work for an Octoling is a change that would affect both them and Inklings. Their outfits and Ink color would be independent. Under most conditions, the ink color would make the outfit like normal. But if two Inkings or Octolings would have the same ink color, their ink color would instead be changed so that the second player's ink color would be shifted based on an algorithm that tries to select a contrasting color, or any remaining colors if there are several inklings in the room. Keep in mind, there can't be 8 inklings and 8 octolings in the same room, so there's always going to be at least one color left.
This might seem convoluted, but I think it could add some additional attention to detail. For example, in team battle, Inklings' ink color could change to match their team color like in a Splatfest. And that way inklings and Octolings on the same team can also benefit from each others' ink, too! Mayhe there could be a secret button combination to get specific colors even if there are no other inklings in play, too.
Personally, I'd make their primary weapon the dualies. Not only does the dual guns make the standard attacks a bit more interesting, but having them be the Neutral Special could let you do dodge rolls like how Joker can dodge when using his gun.
"Dead in the water" is a great refreance to how octolings and inkling die in water.
I’d love to see more Splatoon reps in future Smash titles, and this is a fun take on the octolings! Aside from just the playable characters, I imagine that a Salmonid could make for a fun distinct fighter as well.
I think a small fry functioning like the one splatoon 3s story mode would make neat assist trophy sort of functioning like the wasps.
@@its_paetza7346 i need this now
Fly fish assist trophy we must spread the pain.
@@destroyer2539 this man is insane we must stop him!
Salmonids
Turn the Tide!
A moveset featuring the various kinds of Salmonids would be amazing! I thought of having a Chum for the base, but what do you guys think?
Viridi: I guess Inklings are not the ONLY thriving race after humans died out it seems.
PIT: Wait...is that NOT an Inkling?
Viridi: Nope. Something more tragic. An Octoling. These guys were forced underground by the Inklings in the great splat war, scrapping by just to live. In fact, KIDS needed to train in the military, only for some to be brainwashed.
Pit: That...That sounds bad just hearing. Not to mention the subtle text I...prefer we avoid for this game.
Viridi: Hey, there is some light at the end of the tunnel as they say. They finally are starting to make peace and starting to play together in splat wars nowadays. Though their training is still there. Kinda like your...eating habits.
Pit: I WILL repeat myself about the floor ice cream!
Viridi: Repeat all you want pit, just remember that their attacks hit a bit harder and different, but their ink runs out quicker, so strike once that happens and don't let them poke you!
Pit: Alright! Let's show them how to really have fun!
I'd swap out the up special for inkjet, just to shake things up. I could see it working a bit like ROB's up special, and maybe you can use up special again while it's active to fire down a shot like Mythra's (giving you one last little boost and putting you in freefall)
I think a great Final Smash would be kinda like Bowsers or Snakes: But you are in the background on the UFO from the secret boss fight in Octo expansion and use Tenta Missiles. Well done!
Do you mean final smash?
@@milesfernando yes ill fix that
Missed opportunity to not have one of the taunts be "I wove you" from Salmon Run
Would personally prefer if the Splat Dualies Forward Throw instead used the dodge roll firing mode, showing off the dualies' unique trait a lot more, could even change the Splat Dualies to Dapple Dualies to fit the throw better, since they have very short dodge rolls that can make the Forward Throw look nicer
Other than that, amazing moveset, definitely an interesting take on Octoling to not be using the Octo Expansion outfit as their default costume
I thought Down B was going to be Curling Bomb to fit in with Octoling’s hit and run playstyle.
You can charge it to edgeguard or place a mine of sorts, or plop it down instantly as a weak spacing tool to chase or ward off an opponent. If it hits it can launch directly upwards slightly so that if you did chase the bomb, you can instantly up b as a quick 1-2 combo.
Me too. I feel like the Curling Bomb would be the better choice due to it being more iconic.
The veemo isnt on the this way button but on the booyah button
Is that bing bang in the beginning? Good choice.
I was interested in what you said about changing Inkling's moveset. It would be cool to reimagine the movesets of old characters like Mario, Donkey Kong, and others. I would specifically love to see a new Luigi moveset mostly based on Luigi's Mansion instead of whatever he has now. Also a new challenger I would like to see in Smash 6 is King Boo, surprised they didn't add him with the whole villain theme they had going on.
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Funnily enough, his last video *was* a DK Rework
They actually have a series where they've been remaking the movesets of legacy characters to fit their modern designs. So far they've done Samus, Ganondorf and Donkey Kong
Considering the painbrush just got added, the forward or back air could be replaced for something slower, but with greater horizontal range and more potential damage. Replacing the wiper with the stamper would fit in with the higher damage but slower fit, and it could also be used for up air, acting as a slower version of game & watch’s up air with an extra melee sweet spot, for potential extra damage and juggling potential.
What I'd like for an Up B is the Squid Beakon! It could play into the whole tactical feel of Octoling- placing and later jumping to a device that improves your Super Jump recovery at the cost of requiring a little forethought!
I feel like this is an accurate moveset for octoling as much I want to see it as its own character the scale tipping to to echoe fighter is already sounding the focal point. Also I thought the moveset of weapons and gear were going evolve around Splatoon 2 but figure Splatoon 3 wasn't going to be left out.
Sorry, I was on vacation with my family for almost a week. Anyway, great to see ya back with another CA! video! Even though many people, myself included, assumed that the Octolings would be Dash Fighters of the Inklings, and, while I'm still not entirely opposed to the idea myself, personally, with the very recent release of Splatoon 3, I do think it makes the most sense to (mostly) differentiate them more from their squid humanoid counterparts for the next Smash installment (IF there will be any future Smash games after Special, that is). My guess on the reason as to why the Smash crew decided to just use the default Inkling hairstyles, and weapons from the original Splatoon, and not any from 2 in Special was probably due to time constraints as usual since Special was in development immediately after For wrapped its DLC, and that was over a half-year before 2 was revealed in the Nintendo Switch's official debut trailer in late October 2016, so they just didn't quite have enough time. I do like all their unique weapons including their main one being the .96 Gallon which is the equivalent of the Inklings' Splashooter! That said, the one thing I'm not super keen on with this Moveset mainly due to them using their body for certain attacks including their grabs. The Inklings, and Octolings never physically touch their opponents in their home series. I understand wanting to come up with a cohesive Moveset, but I feel like there's ways to do that while still bringing over elements from the Splatoon games, but that's just me. Otherwise, I really enjoyed this one, and I can't wait for your next Challenger Approaching! video sometime next year! I'd be satisfied if any of the current 3 choices win next time (though, I'm probably rooting for Noah from Xenoblade 3, and I think he'll be the most likely winner for the next CH! video)! And I'll be sure to give your regards to Mantarou, Delzethin! :D Until next time, "Squid, best regards!" "Ink it up... Tentacle!!" "Well then, we're dismissed!"
I have a different take on ink color issue. If we had two splatoon characters, ink color could be determined by your player number, rather than the outfit you chose. This is actually more accurate to splatoon, where you typically don't get to choose your color in a turf war.
Although it does techically mean both characters would need 64 alt costumes programmed... Hm.
Maybe just make 8 alts and switch the hair colors around for the situation
@@its_paetza7346 I think that’s what he meant by 64 alts
I'd personally prefer Octavio to be the second Splatoon rep. New heavyweight, new villain (/anti-hero), could have a unique resource-managment-esque gimmick with the slots on the Octobot King shooting out stuff via specials, sharing cooldowns so that you have to decide between shooting Octorpedoes, Bomb Rush Blushs or Takoyaki Balls out of each individual slot. Maybe a chargeable DJ Killer Wail and Ink Vac in there. Could be fun.
Octobot king is kinda huge so don't know how they'd make that work maybe he'd work more as an assist trophy ngl but u never kno
Ridley exists lmao
Also Bowser JR is in the ge with the clown car, they can size the octobot down a bit. (They could do the same thing if Eggman gets in too)
@@Javacado15 I've always liked the idea of him having a scaled-down version called the Octobot King Mini
@@hownot2junk803 Makes sense, he's not stupid, far from it considering he was willing to work with his usual enemies to deal with the mutual threat that was the giant bear, he'd know that a smaller mech would have it's advantages in certain cases (you know, like being more mobile, faster, easier to dodge enemy ink and so on)... not to mention I can't help but imagine hi, with the same English VA as Chef Hatchet from Total Drama cause it amuses me!
its interesting to portray the octolings as more serious, when in splatoon 3 their animations show them as more excited to fight in comparison to the inklings who are more use to the weapons theyve had at hand for much longer on the surface.
Here’s hoping Black mage is next, also great moveset.
Originally I thought it was going to involve the Octolings using octarian tech instead of stuff from the other splatoon games, but this works well.
That could be a fun idea for an Octarian Elite moveset.
4:36 "three potential paths" (pretend theres a third path)
its oki bc little buddy went down the third path lol
if comments had a volume feature this would literally break the whole website you do not know how hard i popped off when i seen this
Octoling always screamed Isabelle or star fox type character to me where they'd be an original character in smash but be heavily based on the first character from their franchise that made it in
I’m aware of the Patron poll you mentioned at the very end, and I have no idea how you decide on the candidates for it, but I kinda-sorta hope to see a Rabbid video in the future, just to see what you’d come up with. I myself came up with a full moveset, not because I actually want to see them in Smash, but just because a few parts I randomly thought up were living rent-free in my head for a while, so I said “screw it” and went all the way.
It would be cool if the colors for the inklings and octarians in the new games changed depending if your team red, blue, green, or yellow!
I think the up b could've instead been an inkjet or zipcaster. The innkjet might be a slow special that can camp ledges with it's exhaust (inksaust). The zipcaster could be treated like a grapple (like joker's) and if having something like a super jump is still preferred, than the up b can mimic what happens when either of those specials run out (they immediately launch into the air, landing on the place of activation). This special could work similarly to the super jump, but it'd have 0 start lag and low end lag upon landing, but not have the same protection s jump has upon activation or landing
Maybe the Booyah Bomb could’ve been a potential final smash as well? It was used by an octoling when first revealed, it needs to be aimed properly for full effect (matching the octolings’ tactical nature), and it’s just plain hype as heck.
I would love to see for the FS (not specifically for octoling, more just a splatoon rep in general) to have a cinematic with the Rainmaker, firing off a barrage of explosive shots before slamming it home onto the person nearest when the smash is activated.
another way you could use the up special is as the zipcaster, a grapple recovery but unlike most it gives octoling a hitbox and causes an explosion when hitting a ledge or character (like byleths recover but it launches up and or away rather than down and has some kill power at high percents (or at least near the top)
Victory Screen Ideas:
1. Engaging in old habits, the Octoling crouches down, looking over their .96 Gal for any damage or mechanical issues. Having found nothing wrong, they nod to themselves and stand back up, posing with a little flourish.
2. Wielding the Octobrush, the Octoling furiously swings it at the camera, before they slow down and bend over slightly, panting from overdoing it.
3. Wielding the Tri-Stinger, the Octoling pulls the string back a few times, changing their aim with each one, as if practicing the motions of firing it. They abruptly stop though, remembering where they are, and smile sheepishly at the camera.
PLEASEE i was so excited for him to go over victory animations but then he didn't. I love these ideas! 1 and 3 feel especially in character i hope they become real
@@crafted_myth2392 Yeah, he doesn't cover victory animations. But hey, gives us something to do.
I love how you made the victory screens show their Military background. Like They say, old habits die hard.
That would be good, but a detail i would add is that the animation differentiates between genders, kinda like inkling.
Coming out of watching your Custom Moves videos (specifically Inklings), I thought I'd come back and see if I could give some to your Octoling moveset too. Just for the fun of it.
**Neutral Special: .96 Gal - .52 Gal**
Usefully for us, the 96 already has a younger, lighter weight sister to swap to. Sacrifices range and power in exchange for less ink consumption and overall lag, so you can act out of it faster compared to 96 (for real, that things strafing while shooting is non-existent). It's a safer option that lacks the power of the 96, but saves up ink for your other moves.
**Side Special: Tri-Stringer - REEF-LUX 450**
It took almost two years for the Stringers to get a third member, and it's basically just the Grizzco Stringer lite, so let's just stick with REEF-LUX. Faster charge time, but significantly shorter range, not to mention it lacks the explosives. The shots do deal more damage and knockback, though, to the point it could actually kill when close to the screen. Good luck getting it there, though, I mean it's not like this weapon has the ability to store a charge, right?.. oh wait it does.
If you have it fully charged you can cancel out of the move like with the other chargeables, and keep it stored for several seconds. You lose the charge if you don't use it on time, but at least you get the ink back. You can threaten with it and even work it into combos now, but you lose out on the stage control and range of the regular stringer.
**Up Special: Super Jump - Drone Super Jump**
This one was harder to think up, but I think the way the Spawn Drones work can help come up with something new. No spawn drone in this move, rather the Octoling just takes longer to charge up the Super Jump. The catch? You can now jump in any direction you chose, giving you a lot of control on your recovery, like horizontal recovery that the Octoling lacks. Of course the distance traveled is less, and the startup can leave you vulnerable. The impact hit can be stronger though, as a treat.
**Down Special: Fizzy Bomb - Curling Bomb**
Fizzy Bomb in Splatoon 3 is just the cooler Curling Bomb, but I think here it can get its own strengths. Octoling tosses out the titular bomb, which slides on the ground leaving behind an ink trail for quite the length of time, before eventually detonating in a deceptively strong but short ranged explosion. Like Fizzy, you can hold the button, but instead of making it so the bomb explodes more, you're actually cooking the bomb so it explodes both sooner, and with a much larger explosion radius. Very unpredictable, but since it has to slide on the ground it's a far worse projectile compared to Fizzy.
Out of nowhere I just thought of the idea of having the wavebreaker as an item you can place down (not a move but like an assist trophy) for more splatoon rep
No, second Splatoon rep HAS to be Big Man
I love this concept, but I’d probably go for a charger for the neutral special. The octolings have been associated with chargers, with agent 8 often being portrayed with an e-liter, as well as being a popular class that’s been around since day 1 that was oddly missing from inkling’s kit. It would work somewhat like a standard charge shot move, but with the addition of a few things:
1) it has a limited range, uncharged is about as long as a half charged Hero side Special, with a full charge going about half of FD.
2) uncharged, it comes out really fast, if very weak. Think a slightly stronger Fox laser, still with no knockback
3) it can be aimed in a similar area to inkling’s neutral Special, even when the charge is released after being held
4) the charge only holds for a couple seconds before disappearing, like how the charge hold works in Splatoon.
While this may be somewhat similar to the side special, this would act more as a kill move and uncharged would act as a way to bait the opponents to come closer, continuing the stage control design.
This is great! I feel like their FSmash could be a little bit better, though: maybe if fully charged, they'd pull off a short rushing slash like they do when you let go of a charge while moving forward!
I know items aren't exactly something we do for these kinds of videos, but id love for the reefslider and splash wall to become items for newer smash games
And somehow the sales numbers you flashed are already out of date (Nintendo released their Q2 fiscal investor call figures either today or yesterday) - 5.01m in Japan, 7.90m WW iirc.
I'd want to see one octoling using the Agent 8 outfit (or two, one for each of the male and female octoling design of that outfit). I'd also like to see one based on either Grizzco gear (I'm thinking Splatoon 2's Achor Lifevest, Splatoon 2's Headlamp Helmet, and either Splatoon 2 Flipper Floppers or Friendship Bracelet - Go for the weirder of the Grizzco gear for it) or the Splatoon 3 Slopsuit.
Fully agree with your basic approach - distinct moveset (with the same ink gimmick) but identical stats feels perfect for Splatoon's second fighter.
Now me personally, would love callie and marie, as actual characters but you make so many great points and i WOULD LOVE OCTOLINGS.
With Splatoon being HUGE especially in Japan, it definitely needs more Splatoon representation in the next Smash. Definitely plenty of weapons to choose from now. Hoping for charger representation, maybe if Marie becomes a character :)
So this take on Octoling is mechanically more the Ryu to Inkling's Ken - good job!
My request for Challenger Approaching is Duna Nichs from Fossil Fighters on the Nintendo DS. I already have an entire moveset prepared, but I would like to hear your thoughts if you are interested.
Honestly Square Enix has so many characters to choose for a next Smash bros, Tifa representing FF Monk class, Barret with his machine gun arm and representing the Machinist job class, Yuna who could summon different edoloans to battle, Riku or Roxas as an echo fighter for Sora, Neku and Rindo who could differently Psyche pins in battle, Erik, Yangus, or Maya from dragon quest who could use different skills and weapons, Agnes and Edea who can switch Jobs on the Fly and can boost thier power with the BP system, perhaps an Octopath traveler could be interesting too and not to mention 2B.
Also Noah without Mio is like: Mio- (Scream) Noah how could you do this to Me?! Everything I did was for you!!
Even after playing 100 hours of Xenoblade 3, I struggle to see how Noah would be anything more than a Shulk semi-clone (hence why I see Mio as more likely). So I’m curious to see how Delzethin would approach him.
Also, the Kingdom Hearts crew are owned by Disney.
I'm hoping for 2B, especially with how NieR Automata is on the Switch. Just recently, Yoko Taro expressed how much he wanted to include 2B in Smash, but it was too late at the time.
@@Neoxon619 that way Noah and Mio have to be together, besides how will Ouroboros work with just Mio?
Disney have no problem with Sora in Smash, why not Riku and Roxas?
@@MrSupersmash93 That actually goes back to the thought process I was struggling with. If you have a duo where one of them is basically a semi-clone of another character, why bother playing Shulk when Noah can do a lot of what Shulk does with extra stuff on top?
@@Neoxon619 We got Sora, Disney isn't a problem. They were never the problem, actually, they were very eager and encouraged Nomura to jump at the opportunity. Most of Nomura's minor lore specifications he had to make Sora accurate could probably carry over to Roxas or Riku decently fine.
The problem's just that both Roxas and Riku would be very bad and unfaithful as Sora echoes.
It's a tie between Black Mage and Noah. Great video BTW, I think your approach helped differentiate the Octoling from their squid counterpart.
This kind of makes sense now because if the Octolings are in smash Bros then future would be totally different but It'll be awesome.
as an inkling main this would 100% be my new main
You should make a mural using the art, and whenever you make a new character concept, you add the character like a smash reveal.
This is more or less what I imagined for an Octoling in Smash. In fact, I’ve also thought that Dark Pit could work like this: Similar to their counterpart, but different enough to make them unique. And like Splatoon, Kid Icarus Uprising had a large variety of weapons to make that happen.
Classic Mode Idea: Find That Heavenly Melody... (This Classic Mode is music-themed, with five of the matches backed by vocal tracks, and one having a plot based on music)
Stage 1: Mario (backed by Jump Up, Super Star)
Stage 2: Sonic (backed by Live & Learn)
Stage 3: Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong (backed by the DK Rap)
Stage 4: Male and Female Corrin (backed by Lost in Thoughts All Alone (JP))
Stage 5: Ness (backed by Smiles and Tears)
Boss Stage: Galleom (This is meant to symbolize Octoling striking against their past. The track would be I am Octavio, though Nasty Majesty or Fly Octo Fly would also work if they were in the game)
Stage 7: Yellow Inkling (backed, of course, by Calamari Inkantation, the song that set the Octolings on their road to redemption)
i like that the weapon of choice isn't octo shot! sure, it's nice for them to represent their legacy but they've got more hopes and wishes than just that!
i'd wager octolings would be more aggro but less playful, despite their military training octos that left bc of the inkantation handle weapons a lot differently - have you seen the animations when checking out weapons in the stores?
...oh, yeah, these actually fit that pretty well!
This is a fantastic fighter design! Though honestly, if we got another Splatoon Rep, I think it'd be cool to see a mon that represents the other big gameplay mode in Splatoon, that being Salmon Run.
Maybe based on Little Buddy?
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Personally I would have gone with “Octoling rendezvous on the battlefield” since that’s kinda the name of the rival Octolings in Hero Mode.
To add more splatoon representation in smash, I had an idea where each different inkling alt could have different weapons and bombs
I feel like a really cool idea for the final smash would be the booyah bomb. Octoling would fly into the background and would be able to charge the attack like bayos, and would throw the attack down using a reticle like bowser
Missed opportunity to use the cannons you shoot out of in Splatoon 3 for the up special
Going to be honest, this is about exactly what I would imagine Octoling to be played out.
Honestly, I'd almost prefer the Booyah Bomb for a Final Smash, a targeting reticle appearing as the Octoling charges it in the background. Could also have a fun gimmicky application where a teammate taunting in team battles would charge up its power to match the 1-on-1 version, if that mechanic sticks around.
I think splatana stamper would work better for forward smash due to the fact that is intentionally heavy duty whereas the wiper is very light.
A Raven Beak move set would be really fascinating!
Wish granted
Alt ideas for 3-8
3: agent 8 from the octo expansion (octo expansion reference) [falls in line with inkling’s 3rd alt being agent 3]
4: splatoon 3 salmon run orange slopsuit (salmon run reference)
5: sanitized octarian (octo expansion reference) [hair color doesn’t change. Green into blue I believe is what the sanitized colors are]
6: something unique that references splatoon 2
7: fuzzy octarian (splatoon 3 story mode reference) (hair color doesn’t change, fuzzy brown I believe it is, just like in game]
8: something unique that references splatoon 3
As for hair and ink color between inklings and octolings. I know the comments have already mentioned this, but what about if it changes depending on what team you are on or in solo, what player slot you are on. The reason the sanitized and fuzzy alts won’t change hair style is because that color is strictly associated with that. You won’t see any sanitized octolings with any color other that green to blue, or any fuzzy octarians other than their fuzzy brown hair. However the color of the ink will still be dependent on player slot or team no mater the alt
These videos make me so happy- but this one made my day.
At this point, I wanna see Delzethin come up with how he'll make the next Smash Bros. as the director. With the moveset creativity, his knowledge of Smash, both casual and competitive, not to mention that Sakurai can take a role as a supervisor, I'm pretty sure Delzethin's got the chops to make a new Smash Bros. And make it twice as popular as Ultimate.
That aside, the moveset is clean. I expected a semi-clone and you _smashed_ my expectations. (Get it?) 11/10, would definitely main against skilled Roys.
I think a much cooler and representative final smash would be Commander Tartar's blender. When activated parts of the blender are assembled by Tartar while Octoling is still able to move around just like Inkling. This lets them throw or hit opponents into the 4 thangs that give huge hit stun launching them into the assembled blender where a quick cutscene happens. It consists of the opponents getting blended up quickly until Agent 3 crashes in making it explode. If the Agent 3 alt is caught in the final smash, then it blows up by itself. If they weren't caught in it, then the Agent 3 alt themselves is included in the cutscene.
Also make their up smash Explosher just like Snake's up smash with a larger airborne hit box that explodes on contact unlike in game where it pierces through. Suction bomb would be a better down b as if Octoling is focusing on slower but more damage than that would make more sense. The forward smash should also be the splatana stamper as the wiper is notorious for being excessively weak besides the one shot which comes out quick but in SSBU terms would probably have low launch power.
Sorry if this felt mean or overbearing just felt like there were a lot of better options
I made this halfway through the video so when you said you haven’t played the previous games I understand why the selection was kinda narrow, sorry.
octoling dab is the coolest taunt ever
I think it could be a Villager and Isabelle situation
That’s pretty much what this is.
If only you made this now, Kraken would be a perfect fit. (As FS)
You need to have one of the taunts be a squid bag/octo bag
Octoling as a unique fighter would be awesome. I would give this character a try if they were real.
Imagine if the next smash game trailer is announced with a lot of Octolings playing together and then seeing the Smash Logo
It would be a Nice Parallel to the Inklings/Smash ultimate anounce trailer :)
I feel like instead of the burst bomb being the down smash it should be the little robot fish thing that tracks where opponents are working similarly to one of bowser jrs smash attacks
Honestly, this moveset sounds really fun, think the only thing I'd change is the Splatana from the Wiper to the Stamper if it's going to be a heavy damage smash attack because of Stamper doing more damage in the game. Kinda more visual change than gameplay.
PLEASE ALMIGHTY PICK NOAH!! MORE XENOBLSDE REP!!
(Sorry for the loudness of my voice)
I feel there's a different final smash that could be of use here. Don't get me wrong the triple inkstrike is good but final smashes nowadays are straight and to the point. So if anything I feel Either the Booyah bomb or the Killer whale (Splatoon 3 version) would be good picks.
Booyah bomb: the Octoling super jumps of stage to build up energy then tosses a bomb powered up via Booyahs and acts like a smart bomb.
Killer whale (Splatoon 3 version): The Octoling super jumps to the background while active it works similar to zero suits Samus final smash. Fires 6 beams from the back ground via a radical and ends with a burst sending the opponent flying.
I think the dab should be a victory pose instead of a taunt. Just as a way of rubbing salt in the wound.
It would be interesting if you could make a video in which you do new movements for the Mii Fighters, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter and Mii Gunner, hopefully you can do it someday
Was hopeful to see Octoling throughout most of Ultimate’s lifespan. This moveset sounds like a lot of fun, just hope Nintendo brings good ideas to fruition with them, whenever Octolings come to smash.
I imagine that they’d have a feature that changes octoling/inkling colors if their colors are identical
Honestly my opinion on this is "they sound like if they existed I'd main them" so
Kitsu stamp of approval
Ive been asking for octoling as soon as splatoon 3 came out. I felt it should be a separate character too with different moves and specials, maybe use the jetpack as a recovery or use the same as inklings.
There are only two characters I consider to be hard locks for the next Smash game (beyond placeholder slots for Pokémon & Fire Emblem): Ring Fit Trainee & Octoling. So yeah, I’m glad you’re finally covering the latter. And I hope you do the former at some point.
With that said, Splatoon did away with gender in Splatoon 3. So I probably would’ve gone with feminine & masculine as the terminology instead. But outside of that, fantastic work on the video.
16:25 considering one of their preserved human specimens had a wii u, I don't think it ever did 😅
I personally think that one of the idol characters would be a better and more interesting representative of Splatoon. Marina from Splatoon 2 is both an Octoling AND one of the idols, she would be a good one. She could use both music-based and octoling weaponry attacks for example.
On one hand, Marina would give the roster a primarily & inarguably Black character. But realistically, I can’t see Smash passing up the generic Octoling given that you actually play as them.
I actually made a Octoling moveset but it was way before splat 3 so I made it based off Splatoon 2
I want to see you tackle Noah or Raven Beak, whomever comes first. They seem just as likely to be in the next Smash like the Octolings.
I’m actually surprised that Ring Fit Trainee isn’t an option considering that (like Octoling) they’re pretty much guaranteed to be in the next game.
@@Neoxon619 Also true! Whether they replace WFT or have them playable alongside them remains to be seen.
@@erickmaverick3128 There’s definitely room for both, as the similarities are only skin-deep (if even).
Would love to see you cover Professor Pester from Viva Pinata
I found this video after thinking , hmmm they should make octoling playable but different than inkling.
I'd be interested in seeing your take on Noah, but I'm admittedly much more partial to the idea of Mio's moveset. He's by no means lacking in things to differentiate him from Shulk like I've seen people say, but I'm not sure how one can make a good balance of both his own fighting style, his usage of Lucky Seven, and utilizing abilities from other classes. I feel like one of them would have to give.
Mio, by contrast, both doesn't have this problem due to not having Lucky Seven, and offers a weapon type that very few characters in anything use, which is always a nice bonus. I'm far from against swordfighters, but you don't come across chakram fighters every day.
You could set him apart in other ways, but I still feel like he'd be in semi-clone territory to some degree. And that's in a addition to juggling all the stuff you mentioned.
Either way, I agree that Mio would minimize that risk. But I'm curious to see how Delzethin handles Noah.
I wanna think for their final smashes they can be like the inklings and pull out a killer wail, but it be the princess canon and have pearl use her voice to blow away opponents
I’m still surprised to this day on why the Octolings never even became an Echo Fighter for Inkling. There’s always the next Smash game.
I honestly don’t think they’ll be an echo fighter. As noted in the video, there’s enough material from the newer Splatoon games to set the Octolings apart from the Inklings.