This isn't even debatable. Dr. Eggman is like the second most recognizable video game villains, right behind Bowser, and the Sonic The Hedgehog series is in dire need of better representation.
Putting "GET A LOAD OF THIS!" in the Final Smash instead of a taunt is not only the more dramatic for the line, something Eggman is all about, but saves us from what would be the new (and worst) spammable Online Arena taunt. You have done us a great justice.
I know Death Egg Robot would probably be the final smash, but I'd really want it to be the Egg Fleet. Like just one of those Cinematic FS's, where the Egg Fleet just unloads all it fire power on the opponent, while Eggman rides high in the Egg Mobile laughing maniacally with his arms raised in triumph.
@@alphaant362 Unleashing a pimped version of the Egg Dragoon to completely annihilate his enemy would be fun. Too bad my favorite Eggman design is suffering some fatigue. We had OG, Gens and the travesty of forces.
You never said what his victory screens would be so here's some I came up with. Eggman hops out of the Egg Walker and plants down the iconic Act Clear sign with his face on it. Only for Sonic to zip past and flip it around to his own side, leaving Eggman to stomp the ground in anger. Another could have Eggman tossing a small woodland creature (Randomized between Ricky/Sally, Picky/Porker, Pocky/Johnny, or a Flicky) into a Badnik, closing the access panel, and activating it before cackling to himself as the Badnik starts moving around. The last one could have Eggman juggling three of the seven Chaos Emeralds in this hands, referencing the ending if you don't collect all the emeralds in the classic games.
Perhaps depending on the stock count of the match or depending on the lives of his own for example if he has 3/7 stocks left he’ll juggle 3 of the emeralds in his victory screen.
The more I look at the art of Eggman in the Egg Walker, the more I see the black parts next to him as his legs, like he’s sitting with his knees sticking out because he built it too small
Eggman in his sa2 Eggwalker but with machines from his classic boss fights built in is literally the exact concept I’ve had in my head for an Eggman moveset for years.
For the smash introduction They should do the hero vs villain thing, but before it could finish the screen get's hacked and it turns red... Then we see the iconic Eggman symbol with Eggman saying something clever like "Thought you could sneak off without ah?" or "We intruppt this station for your new ruler, Me! BWAHAHAHA!" to tell the viewers the real villain is here.
I've always found Dr.Robotnik/Eggman to be a far more interesting idea for a Smash Fighter then practically all the other Sonic characters. I guess it would also go without say that he'd probably have the same properties as Bowser Jr. where attacking the vehicle itself would do less damage but attacking Eggman himself would do more.
While Shadow was and still is my most wanted Sonic character for Smash if we got Eggman instead i would still be satisfied since that means that not only would we get to hear Mike Pollock's Eggman voice in Smash but that also means we would finally have another Sonic character in Smash
Given how big the Smash team went for Sephiroth, there is a meager possibility that someone like Shadow could be thrown in as a bonus echo fighter alongside Eggman in an attempt to one-up the last character. It'd be amazing but extremely unlikely given all the extra work.
I love all of the references to eggmans theme from SA2 you've hidden in some of your sentences. They are well structured. You really had a master plan there.
@@INFERNO95 Because he is an iconic villain apart with amazing Moveset potential from a very influential franchise that deserves more representation in super smash bros ultimate
@@INFERNO95 hes one of the most iconic characters in video games heck hes the most iconic video game Character who hasn't been added yet everyone knows him
@@INFERNO95 sonic is one of the most under represented characters in smash, which is unusual, given how popular sonic and the nintendo/sega rivalry was
If Eggman gets in there is no way we don't get a mod which replaces his voice with his SnapCube real time fandub voice, Just seeing the Sonic Adventure cutscenes in this video makes me think of that beautiful dub.
Honestly seeing a lot of people finally starting to consider Dr. Eggman after recent character reveals makes me very happy I've kinda supported Eggman on the side for a while and though I don't think he's happening anytime soon, but seeing a whole lot of Eggman discussion and him being one of the most characters with outcry about not being in the game after recent reveals is surreal when he was one of my "underrated newcomer choices" a few years ago
Sephiroth boosted Eggman's chances And for the next Fighter he is one of the most possible pics(however much I doubt that they will bring a character from a franchise that is already in the game after Sephiroth and the Aegis) But I still think the last two characters are going to be Retro character (Ryu Hayabusa, Alex kid or another old school character)/Fighting game rep or a big 3rd party character like Crash And the last one being Legends Arceus Pokémon Trainer saddly (makes sense if you think, Sakurai wanted Deciduey along with MinMin and Aegis, and rowlett is legends starter, the game haves 3 slots for characters afther the next character so 1° Deciduey 2° Fire starter 3° Water starter, and they can fill some Pokémon gen that don't have a rep in Smash)
Most people for a long time cared way more about Shadow and Tails, but I've always believed Eggman deserves to be the next Sonic character. Villains before sidekicks!
Honestly, Eggman & Chun-Li are probably next in line regarding secondary characters in already-represented third-party franchises. Both are way too iconic to overlook forever.
chun-li will be a mii costume and sega isn't getting any more fighters because eggman would just be a clone of bowser jr meaning he has nothing new or unique he can bring
@@terrysyvertson9205 Did.. Fid you even watch the video? You say Eggman has no moveset potential, yet the one featured in this video literally has NOTHING that would make him a clone of Bowser Jr!
This was a prediction I made before Pyra / Mythra's reveal. Dr. Eggman could be a tag team character like Pokémon Trainer. The three playable characters would be Mecha Sonic, Metal Sonic and Silver Sonic. Eggman's Final Smash would be the Eclipse Cannon.
@UCjbi7YZoaKeuzaNDLyBUqdA “What moves does Eggman have?” You’re literally on a video explaining a potential moveset idea for Eggman. We literally only have one mech user in smash, which is Bowser jr. Having another one would be cool, there is still room for another. Moves could reference many of his mechs. Mecha Sonic is cool, metal sure, but silver sonic is so lame. He’d just be a crappier mecha. Metal would just be a slightly different sonic.
This was really good, I like that you were able to pull ideas from a wide variety of games rather than just a couple :) Giving him a hover by holding jump might work if it slowly descended (like in SA2) and didn't last too long (shorter than Peach's float).
Gog I really hope Sonic gets a new rep- especially as the series is gonna be 30 years old soon (and we all know how the Big N digs anniversary dates). There's two songs I'd love for him to have if the good doctor got in: > E.G.G.M.A.N. > Egg Carrier [it just slaps] -I appreciate the inclusion on Shadow the Hedgehog.-
@SharinganSakura When it comes to a superheavy character, never assume something is broken, because no matter what, they'll probably be a trash character anyway. Look at K. Rool - people thought he was broken based on pre-release footage. Then they realized he was garbage, especially after the initial nerfs. Superheavies just have that magic touch to them that makes them way worse than the other fighters in the game (except Bowser...he's actually good for once).
His stage should be a touring one. Going from the death egg fight at the end of sonic 2 to seeing the death egg fall onto angel island, before it rises again in sonic and knuckles. Rinse and repeat with the doomsday zone chase back into the death egg
We’d finally get some remixes of Sonic boss themes. I’d like some classic and modern Sonic boss themes. There’s so many great songs for Smash. Doomsday Zone, Big Arms, Death Egg Robot, Time Eater, Egg Dragoon, the list goes on.
Most realistically it would be an "Egg Fleet" stage, but the ship the players fight on could easily warp through various iconic locations like the ones you mentioned
One thing that kinda scares me about this moveset is that Eggman does a lot of pulling levers and pushing buttons - so while his moves may take a bit to come out, if half, or even just a quarter of the animation is him pushing buttons, his different attacks would become quite hard to differentiate when it comes to the startups - effectively making the moves a bit faster than they really are.
maybe each attack has a voice line specific to that move. So the way to beat eggman is to remember every quote and what attack it will be just like in the sonic games. It would be easier for the slower attacks where you have time to still dodge but something like the lance attack you have to quickly remember what attack is coming. It could feel like a real boss character with clear tells on his attacks just before they're used but not so long they're too easy to dodge.
@@k-leb4671 Well, Bowser Jr doesn't push buttons at all - the moves just start. And it works, since the Clown Car has just enough "character" and personnality to work on its own. The drills, canonballs, trapdoors... they just sort of come out whenever needed, as if the clown car had a mind of its own.
I can just see Eggman yelling "ALL SYSTEMS! FULL POWER!" upon initial activation of the D.E.R., saying "No way! I can't believe this!" when the D.E.R. Misses, and "You thought you were safe..? THINK AGAIN!" when he pulls out the second arm on top of the "GET A LOAD OF THIS!" when he fires either arm.
I really feel like Eggman needs to be included. First of all I just feel like an other sonic character would be fun. Second, I feel like he's really iconic in fact he's one of my favorite villain and should be included in smash. Third, as much as the sonic franchise has it's downs recently, we should give them an other shot so why not smash and recreate the good old rivalry between Sonic and Eggman. Finally I feel like not enough villains are in the game Sephiroth was rather weird for me cause I never expected it and honestly I want Eggman in smash so I can be the mastermind I want to be XD
This was an awesome moveset concept! I've vouching for several Sonic characters including Dr. Eggman to see the limelight on the Smash roster! Man, while I've been having fun writing scripts for entire "Directs" of sorts in support of characters that would make great fighters, it's nice to see people just dive into moveset concepts as I find the simplicity of that just as enjoyable! Keep up the good work, dude!
Ayy, I like seeing control character concepts. Nicely done on the moveset, I think I'd really enjoy theorycrafting some uses for that down b and neutral b. 🤔
Your moveset is great. I always figured the Egg Walker would be the way to go for a playable Eggman. My only complaint is that the idea for the Death Egg Robot sounds a bit too similar to Giga Bowser in Ultimate.
Been waiting for this. Awesome! Honestly. Because of sephiroth, and I really feel like eggman is missing from smash and wouldn't make sense without him.
I do love the irony of "This character opens the door for other characters with similar traits!" even though it actually more likely closes the door for most of them for the sake of diversity. Hoenstly, when it comes to predicting who will be next, I find it easier to predict who it probably *won't* be. I actually find it much more fun to speculate this way because then I'm often excited to be wrong as opposed to disappointed.
I adore characters that can essentially rebuild the stage to suit their needs. It's just very fun to watch as everyone has to dodge all of your stupid bullshit while you're laughing your ass off
Eggman would be such a great personality to have in smash. Just like anyone, he has a chance, but isn't guaranteed. Honestly at this point in the pass, it's anyone's game. An xc2 rep was the only one I was sure of after min min got in, but now who knows. I'm kind of expecting an older rep akin to Terry next tho
He could always "lay" the egg pawn's out the back of his walker, especially since this drawing looks more chicken like. Maybe he could even get a variant with a weak blaster, if he charges it a long time.
It would be cool if he had an alt that changed eggman to his classic “robotnik” look and changed the walker to mimic the original egg-mobile design as well
You made nearly every move a reference, and yet it still works as an intelligently designed gameplay positive kit, with purpose in every move that keeps all the others in mind. You're really good at this. Well done!
All of Eggman's taunts should just be his most spammed lined from the video games. "You know what they say! The more the merrier!" "Get a load of this!" "No way! I can't believe this!" "WHOA"
I'd really like to see Eggman get in. I've really wanted a 2nd Sonic rep for a while now, but considering Shadow and Knuckles are assist trophies, and Tails got his Mii costume back as DLC, Eggman seems like the Sonic rep with the best shot to get in, at least for Ultimate. I really like this moveset concept you gave him. Only thing I'd change is his Egg Pawn special. It would be cool if you could summon different kinds of Egg Pawns, or maybe not even limit it to Egg Pawns, and have the player able to choose between a ton of different badniks from the series. Motobugs, Buzz Bombers, Caterkillers, Crabmeat, Egg Pawns with lances and shields, Egg Pawns with blasters, those bumper shield enemies from Casino Night (can't remember their names), etc. Maybe limit it to 3 or so different ones, and then let Eggman switch which one he summons by holding the special button, and selecting via a wheel like Shulk's monado arts. I feel like that would help play into the fact that he's a genius, and it would go even further into showing the doctor's creativity.
@@michaeleverett1376 Metal Sonic's a bit too big of a deal to relegate him to a single special move. I can maybe see him show up in the final smash in some way, but that's it. Edit: I just realized you were talking about him as another character, my bad. I love Metal, but I feel like it would be weird to get Metal before Eggman in Smash. That would almost be like if Bass became a playable character in a Smash game before Wily.
I’m honestly gonna be so depressed if Pollock era Eggman never makes his way to Smash. Heading his voice and one lines knock characters off the stage would be magical
I would love to see Dr Eggman for how iconic and fun of a villain he is. Even if he doesn't get in though you can make decent mii gunner outfits for him at least, but yeah if we get one more villain it NEEDS to be eggman. Sora and especially professor layton are my 2 dream characters but eggman would be a joy to play :)
Whenever I see eggman I realize...it's either him or Porky...and Porky hasn't been given a spirit (which thanks to min min and pyra and mythra) it would basically mean sakurai and the team just forgot him and felt he wasn't worth being in the game....but I really want eggman more than porky...idk what to think anymore
@@toamatoro570 it feels like a really big cop out of an answer considering the capsule is a crafted spirit and there wasn’t any hints of someone being in it
I think if we do get one more villain, it'll be either Eggman or M.Bison. those are probably the two most prolific villains for franchises we already have that arent in the game yet
Costume ideas: different paintjobs for the Eggwalker S obviously, but there could also be one with Gerald Robotnik running the thing, one with that Eggrobo from S3&K, and maybe also Mecha Sonic and Metal Sonic. That would still leave half the costume slots for simple recolors. I really do feel like it would be good to have different badniks to call upon, however you might do so.
you forced my hand with that comment... "Ooh, what does the S stand for? Sloppy? Scrap? Oh, wait, since we're in Smash, how about Egg Walker Smashed?" "Good thinking, rodent. It stands for 'Smash', because it's about to SMASH YOU TO PIECES!"
6:25 Eggman _dominates_ and _outlasts_ his opponents... Hmm... He lays dominion over the field of play... HMMM... This video is going places I didn't expect...
This is really cool! One thing that's hard for me to imagine is how the aerials you envision could come out quickly enough to have practical use--like, not just practical competitive use, but actually having the time to animate the animation to actually come out at all. Imagining the Egg Walker S sprouting a giant wrecking ball seems like it'd have to be slow enough to convey that this is a clunky machine with big parts, but then how could it be fast enough to actually finish before Eggman hits the ground?
Im afraid that if Eggman joins Smash, people will hate Sonic franchise because other fan favorite character does not. That would only make the Sonics reputation worse.
Yes because we need * insert swordsman name here * because he/she is different from every swordsman because * insert excuse reasoning here * over a unique character. Also you can't make sonic reputation go any low because saga still have the classic fanbase to pander to and fall back on.
Alternate and quicker FS would be the Laser Eggman uses in the beginning of Unleashed. Similar to King K's fs, the character (s) hit would be seen on earth then Eggman presses the infamous Chaos emerald colored button and the Giant-pink (Would you call that Pink?) Laser shoots from the sky
Imagine his reveal trailer pull a juke with Megaman getting his ass whooped, make the viewer think either a Megaman character is what's beating him/going to save him, only to reveal that it was Eggman all along, and when Eggman's about to finish him off, Sonic stops him in the nick of time, all as a fun nod to the crossover comic.
honestly... I would love to see them do the king k rool/banjo trailer again but with sonic sleeping with the group and the iconic laugh is heard. They all rush to the window, the looming shadow of a mech appears on the window and we see what they see... a shadow of eggman... until it's revealed to be wario given a boost by bowser jr, they both laugh together until they're blown away by a barrage of missiles and we see eggman enter saying something like: "Sorry I'm late sonic".
Me personally I feel like Eggman needs the Egg Mobile to be in the game sonic its been here since classic sonic games. Egg Walker has only been in SA2.
Props on incorporating the minions in some way, and it'd kinda make sense for Eggman to design (or at least tweak) his own vehicle for his Smash appearance. The classic Eggmobile at least feels special and important in its usage as an up special, kinda like if Tails got in and that was his up special. It'd be so cool if we could fight as Eggman and use these boss fight references as an arsenal! He/technically Tails I guess would definitely be in my Top 5 Smash picks though that is surprisingly a very shallow pool of choices.
I do think Smash needs more villains and this video makes me genuinly want Eggman and due to it being Sonic's anniversary I don't think that 's extremely farfetched
I've been wanting Eggman since the smash 4 polls. I really really liked your eggman interpretation, i would main the shit out of it. My only two suggestions would be 1) replace the eggpawn for random badniks (could be buzzbomber, motorbug, caterkiller and crab. Might function like Peach's turnips) 2) death egg robot from Sonic 3&K as final smash. It will rise in the background from below and you willuse its giants mechanical hands to crush fighters on ground, it will also have fire snot and before the time runs out it will blast the master emeralds laser
"I know some people may not like some moves coming from less popular games, but you know what they say!" I _hate_ that my brain autocompleted that in Mike Pullock's voice to "THE MORE THE MERRIER!"
As long as when he does his final smash he yells " GET A LOAD OF THIS!"
"TAKE THIS! TAKE THIS! TAKE THIS!"
"YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY THE MORE THE MERRIER!"
those lines are those of the late deam bristow
@@terrysyvertson9205
May he rest in peace.
I think Pollock did a good "Get a load of this!" at one point
@@grunkleg.2934
I'm sure if they ask him to he will do voice lines for smash.
'IF' another villain gets in, I want it to be this one.
and then tails is announced as an echo fighter for it?
@@natanvelazquez2270 I'd prefer Gamma. Or let's go crazy and make it Wily.
@@DjoingDalton true
Yes
@@DjoingDalton Wily would be awesome, but I think Eggman deserves the spot much more
Eggman deserves a spot
I think Eggman would make a better boss and Tails deserves a spot before him
Still feel like Eggman deserves it more but I want Tails much more.
This isn't even debatable. Dr. Eggman is like the second most recognizable video game villains, right behind Bowser, and the Sonic The Hedgehog series is in dire need of better representation.
I can literally never convince anyone that Tails should be our second Sonic rep.
@@liamfunnyman6965 Eggman just has been here as long as sonic.
The reason why I want Dr. Eggman in Smash, is so that we could have all 4 members of the Big Bad Bosses!
I also wondering if he can be an echo fighter
"Maybe you heard about me"
@@thatclipmakerguy9959 "All in the news today!"
@@KCruzer "I'm kinda legendary in the most destructive way"
@@thatclipmakerguy9959 "I have a secret hideout
I've got the fancy swords
I've got a bone to pick with all generic demon lords"
I think if you're a video game character who ends up being played by jim Carey in a movie adaptation of a game then you deserve to be in smash
True The Grinch from the Gameboy Color How The Grinch Stole Christmas 100% deserves a spot.
Eggman the second most iconic villain in gaming, not even in the game 😂😂😂
@@JaredThe Well they don't call it the Grinch leak for nothin
Delzethin: Instead of using the egg mobile, he should the egg walker.
Me: That sound likes the egg mobile, but with extra STEPS.
Extra steps in more than one way
Nice pun.
😔 you didn’t have to say that... but you did...
The only good pun.
AYYYY XD Yesss
Putting "GET A LOAD OF THIS!" in the Final Smash instead of a taunt is not only the more dramatic for the line, something Eggman is all about, but saves us from what would be the new (and worst) spammable Online Arena taunt. You have done us a great justice.
yeah if there's any worst spammable taunt for him it has to be YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY THE MORE THE MERRIER
Wait, I thought you couldn't taunt in Online anymore?
@@greenhawk1285 The arenas allow you to taunt still.
@@ArceusBowser212 Oh
*Eggman deserves a cursed taunt.*
"But, you know what they say"
and my brain just screams
"THE MORE THE MERRIER!!!"
My brain went to
"All toasters toast toast!"
*_The Shadow The EdgeHog PTSD is settling in._*
lol forreal
I WENT TO BOTH
I heard it in my head lol
I know Death Egg Robot would probably be the final smash, but I'd really want it to be the Egg Fleet. Like just one of those Cinematic FS's, where the Egg Fleet just unloads all it fire power on the opponent, while Eggman rides high in the Egg Mobile laughing maniacally with his arms raised in triumph.
Considering carpet bombing the battlefield to oblivion would be a signature move of his since Sonic 3 & Knuckles (also in the comics... All of them).
I would have gone for the ark cannon, but thats a good point
I would've prefer the egg dragoon
@@MrMoron-qn5rx I don’t believe Eggman ever fired the Eclipse Cannon at full power, at least in game canon.
@@alphaant362 Unleashing a pimped version of the Egg Dragoon to completely annihilate his enemy would be fun.
Too bad my favorite Eggman design is suffering some fatigue. We had OG, Gens and the travesty of forces.
You never said what his victory screens would be so here's some I came up with. Eggman hops out of the Egg Walker and plants down the iconic Act Clear sign with his face on it. Only for Sonic to zip past and flip it around to his own side, leaving Eggman to stomp the ground in anger. Another could have Eggman tossing a small woodland creature (Randomized between Ricky/Sally, Picky/Porker, Pocky/Johnny, or a Flicky) into a Badnik, closing the access panel, and activating it before cackling to himself as the Badnik starts moving around. The last one could have Eggman juggling three of the seven Chaos Emeralds in this hands, referencing the ending if you don't collect all the emeralds in the classic games.
Good ideas
Dude that be awesome
Pretty good
Perhaps depending on the stock count of the match or depending on the lives of his own for example if he has 3/7 stocks left he’ll juggle 3 of the emeralds in his victory screen.
The more I look at the art of Eggman in the Egg Walker, the more I see the black parts next to him as his legs, like he’s sitting with his knees sticking out because he built it too small
Omg
Nice pfp
@@inaminute1826 me?
Lmao I kinda see it.
I can’t un-see it now thanks
Eggman's Final Smash would probably be the only final smash that unintentionally combos into itself.
ENJOY THE TOTINO'S PIZZA ROLLS, SONIC!
totinos, totinos, totinos, totinos, totinos, totinos, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS, TOTINOS
* death *
You can do it Sonic!! You can beat the _Totinos._
ay, i had the pinned comment on that video for a while
my only achievement
Eggman in his sa2 Eggwalker but with machines from his classic boss fights built in is literally the exact concept I’ve had in my head for an Eggman moveset for years.
Never knew I needed it, now I can't live without it
EDIT: I love how the Egg Walker is street legal and has tail lights.
Eggman designing it: professionals have standards
He’s a villain, not a criminal
For the smash introduction They should do the hero vs villain thing, but before it could finish the screen get's hacked and it turns red... Then we see the iconic Eggman symbol with Eggman saying something clever like "Thought you could sneak off without ah?" or "We intruppt this station for your new ruler, Me! BWAHAHAHA!" to tell the viewers the real villain is here.
THAT WOULD BE PERFECT
They could totally bait us
Or in other words. “I’VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT
And instead the wily assist trophy appears and trolls everyone
@@brandonporter8509 _"Shadow the hedgehog is a bitch-ass mutha fucka"_
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I would say it's impossible to guess who's next.
Just sit back and enjoy Mr sakurais wild ride.
I've always found Dr.Robotnik/Eggman to be a far more interesting idea for a Smash Fighter then practically all the other Sonic characters. I guess it would also go without say that he'd probably have the same properties as Bowser Jr. where attacking the vehicle itself would do less damage but attacking Eggman himself would do more.
While Shadow was and still is my most wanted Sonic character for Smash if we got Eggman instead i would still be satisfied since that means that not only would we get to hear Mike Pollock's Eggman voice in Smash but that also means we would finally have another Sonic character in Smash
Given how big the Smash team went for Sephiroth, there is a meager possibility that someone like Shadow could be thrown in as a bonus echo fighter alongside Eggman in an attempt to one-up the last character. It'd be amazing but extremely unlikely given all the extra work.
I love all of the references to eggmans theme from SA2 you've hidden in some of your sentences.
They are well structured. You really had a master plan there.
Imagine the old memes he's associated with becoming mainstream again if he ever gets in.
@Drew Baxter PROMOTION!
I have an announcement to make!!
GET A LOAD OF THIS!
I'M GONNA GO EVEN HIGHER
GIVE ME BACK MY GAMER GIRL SONIC!
Egg man being combo’d easily kinda makes sense to me, I don’t know why, it just makes sense
Maybe the fact sometimes in some classic boss fights we can damage him 5 times in a row
I love how how much thought you put into Eggman's fighter design. I agree he would build a new mech for the entry.
I’ve been waiting for this one. He deserves a slot more than a lot of other characters and I’m glad people are finally recognizing that.
Why does he deserves a spot more then other characters who are not in smash?
@@INFERNO95 Because he is an iconic villain apart with amazing Moveset potential from a very influential franchise that deserves more representation in super smash bros ultimate
@@julianlamonica9450 I can't agree more...
@@INFERNO95 hes one of the most iconic characters in video games heck hes the most iconic video game Character who hasn't been added yet everyone knows him
@@INFERNO95 sonic is one of the most under represented characters in smash, which is unusual, given how popular sonic and the nintendo/sega rivalry was
If Eggman gets in there is no way we don't get a mod which replaces his voice with his SnapCube real time fandub voice, Just seeing the Sonic Adventure cutscenes in this video makes me think of that beautiful dub.
“I’M BACK IN THE FUCKING BUILDING AGAI-“
Honestly seeing a lot of people finally starting to consider Dr. Eggman after recent character reveals makes me very happy
I've kinda supported Eggman on the side for a while and though I don't think he's happening anytime soon, but seeing a whole lot of Eggman discussion and him being one of the most characters with outcry about not being in the game after recent reveals is surreal when he was one of my "underrated newcomer choices" a few years ago
Lots of people been asking for eggman for a while it didn't just started.
Sephiroth boosted Eggman's chances
And for the next Fighter he is one of the most possible pics(however much I doubt that they will bring a character from a franchise that is already in the game after Sephiroth and the Aegis)
But I still think the last two characters are going to be
Retro character (Ryu Hayabusa, Alex kid or another old school character)/Fighting game rep or a big 3rd party character like Crash
And the last one being Legends Arceus Pokémon Trainer saddly (makes sense if you think, Sakurai wanted Deciduey along with MinMin and Aegis, and rowlett is legends starter, the game haves 3 slots for characters afther the next character so 1° Deciduey 2° Fire starter 3° Water starter, and they can fill some Pokémon gen that don't have a rep in Smash)
Most people for a long time cared way more about Shadow and Tails, but I've always believed Eggman deserves to be the next Sonic character. Villains before sidekicks!
@@onewingedren2228 I will barf if one of the fighter pass slots is a freaking Pokemon, especially a Sword & Shield Pokemon.
I just wish they would add another big heavy character. Mech Eggman would be perfect
Honestly, Eggman & Chun-Li are probably next in line regarding secondary characters in already-represented third-party franchises. Both are way too iconic to overlook forever.
chun-li will be a mii costume and sega isn't getting any more fighters because eggman would just be a clone of bowser jr meaning he has nothing new or unique he can bring
@@terrysyvertson9205 shut up, Terry
Nobody cares
@@LukePS7013 You should be the one to shut up, Luke.
>Both are way too iconic to overlook
*Iconic Doesn't mean likelyhood.*
@@terrysyvertson9205 Did.. Fid you even watch the video? You say Eggman has no moveset potential, yet the one featured in this video literally has NOTHING that would make him a clone of Bowser Jr!
He deserves it. He was originally the mascot, and has been here since the beginning. He deserves it over any Sonic character.
This was a prediction I made before Pyra / Mythra's reveal.
Dr. Eggman could be a tag team character like Pokémon Trainer.
The three playable characters would be Mecha Sonic, Metal Sonic and Silver Sonic.
Eggman's Final Smash would be the Eclipse Cannon.
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I mean.... do we need 3 more sonics? Eggman himself should do the fighting.
@@CaptainCoolzCT- that's way too much, just metal sonic alone would be enough
@@Marc-rw3dd that’s like saying "Pokémon Trainer should just have Ivysaur".
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“What moves does Eggman have?”
You’re literally on a video explaining a potential moveset idea for Eggman.
We literally only have one mech user in smash, which is Bowser jr. Having another one would be cool, there is still room for another. Moves could reference many of his mechs.
Mecha Sonic is cool, metal sure, but silver sonic is so lame. He’d just be a crappier mecha. Metal would just be a slightly different sonic.
This was really good, I like that you were able to pull ideas from a wide variety of games rather than just a couple :) Giving him a hover by holding jump might work if it slowly descended (like in SA2) and didn't last too long (shorter than Peach's float).
I love how his Down Taunt is just called “Maintenance” in quote marks. XD
I'm partial to "Eggman's come to make an announcement"
There would absolutely be a mod that would replace his voicelines with lines from the real-time fandub
@@samuelbott6104 THE FINAL SMASH FOR THAT MOD SHOULD BE HIM PISSING ON THE MOON
@@mrdrawman3340 I agree
It's sad how Sonic never got another rep. :/
Gog I really hope Sonic gets a new rep- especially as the series is gonna be 30 years old soon (and we all know how the Big N digs anniversary dates).
There's two songs I'd love for him to have if the good doctor got in:
> E.G.G.M.A.N.
> Egg Carrier [it just slaps]
-I appreciate the inclusion on Shadow the Hedgehog.-
Maybe in half of the skins, Eggman Nega could pilot the Egg Walker S
what about mean bean machine or one of the songs from the boss battles?
I could see his home stage being Eggmanland from Sonic Unleashed, with remixes of the daytime boss theme and Egg Dragoon to go with it.
maybe it could have sky battery theme? (it's so good)
I see a disturbing lack of super armour on the smash attacks 😔
@SharinganSakura When it comes to a superheavy character, never assume something is broken, because no matter what, they'll probably be a trash character anyway.
Look at K. Rool - people thought he was broken based on pre-release footage. Then they realized he was garbage, especially after the initial nerfs. Superheavies just have that magic touch to them that makes them way worse than the other fighters in the game (except Bowser...he's actually good for once).
His stage should be a touring one. Going from the death egg fight at the end of sonic 2 to seeing the death egg fall onto angel island, before it rises again in sonic and knuckles. Rinse and repeat with the doomsday zone chase back into the death egg
Best stage ever
I want eggman land as a stage
We’d finally get some remixes of Sonic boss themes. I’d like some classic and modern Sonic boss themes. There’s so many great songs for Smash. Doomsday Zone, Big Arms, Death Egg Robot, Time Eater, Egg Dragoon, the list goes on.
Most realistically it would be an "Egg Fleet" stage, but the ship the players fight on could easily warp through various iconic locations like the ones you mentioned
One thing that kinda scares me about this moveset is that Eggman does a lot of pulling levers and pushing buttons - so while his moves may take a bit to come out, if half, or even just a quarter of the animation is him pushing buttons, his different attacks would become quite hard to differentiate when it comes to the startups - effectively making the moves a bit faster than they really are.
maybe each attack has a voice line specific to that move. So the way to beat eggman is to remember every quote and what attack it will be just like in the sonic games. It would be easier for the slower attacks where you have time to still dodge but something like the lance attack you have to quickly remember what attack is coming. It could feel like a real boss character with clear tells on his attacks just before they're used but not so long they're too easy to dodge.
@@linksora7120 that suffers from the hero problem. It makes it harder for players to play worldwide due to the language barrier.
What does Bowser Jr do that doesn't cause that problem?
@@k-leb4671 Well, Bowser Jr doesn't push buttons at all - the moves just start. And it works, since the Clown Car has just enough "character" and personnality to work on its own. The drills, canonballs, trapdoors... they just sort of come out whenever needed, as if the clown car had a mind of its own.
I can just see Eggman yelling "ALL SYSTEMS! FULL POWER!" upon initial activation of the D.E.R., saying "No way! I can't believe this!" when the D.E.R. Misses, and "You thought you were safe..? THINK AGAIN!" when he pulls out the second arm on top of the "GET A LOAD OF THIS!" when he fires either arm.
I really feel like Eggman needs to be included. First of all I just feel like an other sonic character would be fun. Second, I feel like he's really iconic in fact he's one of my favorite villain and should be included in smash. Third, as much as the sonic franchise has it's downs recently, we should give them an other shot so why not smash and recreate the good old rivalry between Sonic and Eggman. Finally I feel like not enough villains are in the game Sephiroth was rather weird for me cause I never expected it and honestly I want Eggman in smash so I can be the mastermind I want to be XD
To quote Brian David Gilbert: "Take fucking notes!"
This was an awesome moveset concept! I've vouching for several Sonic characters including Dr. Eggman to see the limelight on the Smash roster! Man, while I've been having fun writing scripts for entire "Directs" of sorts in support of characters that would make great fighters, it's nice to see people just dive into moveset concepts as I find the simplicity of that just as enjoyable! Keep up the good work, dude!
This is a really neat concept! I agree with basically everything here.
Ayy, I like seeing control character concepts.
Nicely done on the moveset, I think I'd really enjoy theorycrafting some uses for that down b and neutral b. 🤔
*Dr. Eggman*
Has an announcement.
Your moveset is great. I always figured the Egg Walker would be the way to go for a playable Eggman. My only complaint is that the idea for the Death Egg Robot sounds a bit too similar to Giga Bowser in Ultimate.
Maybe change it for a giant laser shooting from the space colony ARK, hitting the battlefield from the sky and creating a big explosion ?
Been waiting for this. Awesome!
Honestly. Because of sephiroth, and I really feel like eggman is missing from smash and wouldn't make sense without him.
I do love the irony of "This character opens the door for other characters with similar traits!" even though it actually more likely closes the door for most of them for the sake of diversity. Hoenstly, when it comes to predicting who will be next, I find it easier to predict who it probably *won't* be. I actually find it much more fun to speculate this way because then I'm often excited to be wrong as opposed to disappointed.
I've come to make an announcement. Shadow the Hedgehog's a...
Shadow is not a @$$hole he is a bad@$$
I adore characters that can essentially rebuild the stage to suit their needs. It's just very fun to watch as everyone has to dodge all of your stupid bullshit while you're laughing your ass off
Dr Eggman: Has Come To Make An Announcement
Editing is top tier, you need more subs
Eggman would be such a great personality to have in smash. Just like anyone, he has a chance, but isn't guaranteed.
Honestly at this point in the pass, it's anyone's game. An xc2 rep was the only one I was sure of after min min got in, but now who knows. I'm kind of expecting an older rep akin to Terry next tho
I actually thought about it. I guessed he’d be like Bowser Jr. Because he’d (likely) be in his eggmobile/mech.
Here's hoping for Crash.
He could always "lay" the egg pawn's out the back of his walker, especially since this drawing looks more chicken like. Maybe he could even get a variant with a weak blaster, if he charges it a long time.
what if eggman got in but god sakurai said "shirtless eggman"
(you know it's possible thanks to the sonic and mario olympics games)
That would be a wish come true.
He could join sephiroth as shirtless villian buddies
It would be cool if he had an alt that changed eggman to his classic “robotnik” look and changed the walker to mimic the original egg-mobile design as well
I could easily see Nega-eggman's colors as an alt too.. just like DarkLink for Link or BloodFalcon for Captain Falcon
The big bad bosses need the final member.
-But seriously why does sonic have no other reps like blaze and emerl would be great?-
No popularity in Japan that’s why.
*Silver sighs*
@@puzzledhypnoshroom1004 My boy Silver I'm sorry
You made nearly every move a reference, and yet it still works as an intelligently designed gameplay positive kit, with purpose in every move that keeps all the others in mind. You're really good at this. Well done!
Idk why i never thought of Eggman until now
Eggman and Sonic is just as iconic as Bowser and Mario I would like him to get a spot
All of Eggman's taunts should just be his most spammed lined from the video games.
"You know what they say! The more the merrier!"
"Get a load of this!"
"No way! I can't believe this!"
"WHOA"
Don't forget "Yosh"
The final smash should be the Egg Dragoon in my opinion, using the fire laser, the ice and the drill
When I saw eggman in smash I subscribed immediately
Me too
I'd really like to see Eggman get in. I've really wanted a 2nd Sonic rep for a while now, but considering Shadow and Knuckles are assist trophies, and Tails got his Mii costume back as DLC, Eggman seems like the Sonic rep with the best shot to get in, at least for Ultimate. I really like this moveset concept you gave him. Only thing I'd change is his Egg Pawn special. It would be cool if you could summon different kinds of Egg Pawns, or maybe not even limit it to Egg Pawns, and have the player able to choose between a ton of different badniks from the series. Motobugs, Buzz Bombers, Caterkillers, Crabmeat, Egg Pawns with lances and shields, Egg Pawns with blasters, those bumper shield enemies from Casino Night (can't remember their names), etc. Maybe limit it to 3 or so different ones, and then let Eggman switch which one he summons by holding the special button, and selecting via a wheel like Shulk's monado arts. I feel like that would help play into the fact that he's a genius, and it would go even further into showing the doctor's creativity.
What about Metal Sonic?
@@michaeleverett1376 Metal Sonic's a bit too big of a deal to relegate him to a single special move. I can maybe see him show up in the final smash in some way, but that's it.
Edit: I just realized you were talking about him as another character, my bad. I love Metal, but I feel like it would be weird to get Metal before Eggman in Smash. That would almost be like if Bass became a playable character in a Smash game before Wily.
@@RednekGamurz I meant as a fighter.
I truly, truly hope he gets into the next game whenever the hell it comes out
I’m honestly gonna be so depressed if Pollock era Eggman never makes his way to Smash. Heading his voice and one lines knock characters off the stage would be magical
Shantae next please
Her potential in moveset, costumes, stage, music and EVERYTHING is off the charts
I would love to see Dr Eggman for how iconic and fun of a villain he is. Even if he doesn't get in though you can make decent mii gunner outfits for him at least, but yeah if we get one more villain it NEEDS to be eggman. Sora and especially professor layton are my 2 dream characters but eggman would be a joy to play :)
Whenever I see eggman I realize...it's either him or Porky...and Porky hasn't been given a spirit (which thanks to min min and pyra and mythra) it would basically mean sakurai and the team just forgot him and felt he wasn't worth being in the game....but I really want eggman more than porky...idk what to think anymore
Porky isn't a spirit because the Absolutely Safe Capsule is. He's trapped inside.
@@toamatoro570 it feels like a really big cop out of an answer considering the capsule is a crafted spirit and there wasn’t any hints of someone being in it
Isnt he the boss at the end of Ness's route in history mode though ?!..
@@YMangaka nah he’s the only boss to just not appear in any way
I'm sorry but porky would be really boring. He's just not as iconic as Eggman and probably would be forgotten in a few days
This is the best Eggman moveset I've seen yet! Brilliant work!
Thank you, Sora!
For completely murdering any chance of hype for the last few years of Ultimate…
cool moveset! i'd love to see another custom moves video from you :D
I think if we do get one more villain, it'll be either Eggman or M.Bison. those are probably the two most prolific villains for franchises we already have that arent in the game yet
Costume ideas: different paintjobs for the Eggwalker S obviously, but there could also be one with Gerald Robotnik running the thing, one with that Eggrobo from S3&K, and maybe also Mecha Sonic and Metal Sonic. That would still leave half the costume slots for simple recolors.
I really do feel like it would be good to have different badniks to call upon, however you might do so.
Best Eggman moveset I’ve ever seen! I would love it if he joined. I don’t think it’s likely for this game, but hopefully it’ll happen someday.
Excellent job--one of your best videos. (Also doesn't hurt that I'm a huge Sonic fan, but even still--I would sign up for this Robotnik in a second.)
He’s already in smash! He’s just so powerful they made him impossible to unlock 😎
you forced my hand with that comment...
"Ooh, what does the S stand for? Sloppy? Scrap? Oh, wait, since we're in Smash, how about Egg Walker Smashed?"
"Good thinking, rodent. It stands for 'Smash', because it's about to SMASH YOU TO PIECES!"
Eggman is my most wanted smash fighter
Itd be great to have him. And getting another batch of sonic music would be a nice benefit
I'm sad that he didn't get in and instead fucking Sora got in
FUCKING SORA!
Sora was one of the most wished in Charakters
6:25 Eggman _dominates_ and _outlasts_ his opponents...
Hmm...
He lays dominion over the field of play...
HMMM...
This video is going places I didn't expect...
3:19
To be fair, it kinda annoys me that people consider King Dedede as a bad guy, considering he isn't an actual bad guy in most Kirby games.
He's more of a villain in modern kirby spinoffs tbh
This is really cool! One thing that's hard for me to imagine is how the aerials you envision could come out quickly enough to have practical use--like, not just practical competitive use, but actually having the time to animate the animation to actually come out at all. Imagining the Egg Walker S sprouting a giant wrecking ball seems like it'd have to be slow enough to convey that this is a clunky machine with big parts, but then how could it be fast enough to actually finish before Eggman hits the ground?
Im afraid that if Eggman joins Smash, people will hate Sonic franchise because other fan favorite character does not. That would only make the Sonics reputation worse.
Yes because we need * insert swordsman name here * because he/she is different from every swordsman because * insert excuse reasoning here * over a unique character.
Also you can't make sonic reputation go any low because saga still have the classic fanbase to pander to and fall back on.
Alternate and quicker FS would be the Laser Eggman uses in the beginning of Unleashed. Similar to King K's fs, the character (s) hit would be seen on earth then Eggman presses the infamous Chaos emerald colored button and the Giant-pink (Would you call that Pink?) Laser shoots from the sky
Imagine his reveal trailer pull a juke with Megaman getting his ass whooped, make the viewer think either a Megaman character is what's beating him/going to save him, only to reveal that it was Eggman all along, and when Eggman's about to finish him off, Sonic stops him in the nick of time, all as a fun nod to the crossover comic.
honestly... I would love to see them do the king k rool/banjo trailer again but with sonic sleeping with the group and the iconic laugh is heard. They all rush to the window, the looming shadow of a mech appears on the window and we see what they see... a shadow of eggman... until it's revealed to be wario given a boost by bowser jr, they both laugh together until they're blown away by a barrage of missiles and we see eggman enter saying something like: "Sorry I'm late sonic".
Great video! thank you. Was also hoping you’d include possible stages and music selection.
Me personally I feel like Eggman needs the Egg Mobile to be in the game sonic its been here since classic sonic games. Egg Walker has only been in SA2.
Egg walker is basically egg mobile with legs
Still doesn’t feel the same.
He’s come to make an announcement
Eggman is one of THE videogame villains, only slightly less iconic than Bowser. He deserves to be there more than the other villains honestly.
Props on incorporating the minions in some way, and it'd kinda make sense for Eggman to design (or at least tweak) his own vehicle for his Smash appearance. The classic Eggmobile at least feels special and important in its usage as an up special, kinda like if Tails got in and that was his up special.
It'd be so cool if we could fight as Eggman and use these boss fight references as an arsenal! He/technically Tails I guess would definitely be in my Top 5 Smash picks though that is surprisingly a very shallow pool of choices.
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It makes only sence that eggman brings his famus Egg Breaker to smash. Lights Out! YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY! THE MORE THE MERRIER!
I seriously thought he'd make a "My Super Lazer Piss" reference
the best move set i've seen. congrats!
I do think Smash needs more villains and this video makes me genuinly want Eggman and due to it being Sonic's anniversary I don't think that 's extremely farfetched
I've been wanting Eggman since the smash 4 polls. I really really liked your eggman interpretation, i would main the shit out of it. My only two suggestions would be 1) replace the eggpawn for random badniks (could be buzzbomber, motorbug, caterkiller and crab. Might function like Peach's turnips) 2) death egg robot from Sonic 3&K as final smash. It will rise in the background from below and you willuse its giants mechanical hands to crush fighters on ground, it will also have fire snot and before the time runs out it will blast the master emeralds laser
Virgin Steve Addition fans
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CHAD Dr. Eggman challenger enthusiasts
"I know some people may not like some moves coming from less popular games, but you know what they say!"
I _hate_ that my brain autocompleted that in Mike Pullock's voice to "THE MORE THE MERRIER!"
And his final smash will be his "SUPER LASER PIIISS!"