Did dude literally forget that in SA2 he had a stranglehold on the whole plot and also blew up prison island in a successful operation to cover his tracks? The hero’s had to always play catch up with Eggman throughout the story and he literally almost killed Sonic. I think SA2 is in the elite teir.
In every game in elite tier, Eggman was victorious in some sort of way. Though it was short-lived, Shadow and Eggman canonically beat Sonic and Tails in Sonic Adventure 2. Maybe put it at the bottom, since he ultimately got played, but I do agree SA2 should be elite.
Bro, he got Shadow on his team, was a playable character, blew up THE MOON, and "killed" Sonic. SA2 Eggman is a straight up menace, and even gets a turn as the hero. P E A K
3 things I want to point out: 1. In Sonic Unleashed, Eggman didn't want to control a beast that was beyond his control, he didn't want to control Dark Gaia, he just wanted to harness Dark Gaia's energy to use on his things, at the end when Dark Gaia was whole again, he just told Dark Gaia to crush Sonic but that didn't work at all 2. And in Sonic Frontiers, Eggman ALSO didn't want to control a beast that was beyond his control, Eggman came to the Starfall Islands in search of the secrets of the Ancient technologies, so he could study it and create better machines, weapons, etc. The Cyberspace is where all the Ancients knowlodge and memories are stored so Eggman wanted those for his own selfish reasons, but during the process he accidentally activated the entire archipelago's security system made to protect anyone from freeing The End, making everything be activated on the islands, the guardians and titans appearing, Cyberspace locking everyone in, the Chaos Emeralds being locked in vaults, etc. 3. It wasn't Sage who locked up Sonic's friends, she was helping Eggman on the outside since he couldn't leave Cyberspace, yes, but Tails, Knuckles and Amy were locked inside of Cyberspace for the same reason Eggman did, the Island was trying to secure The End from being free, Sonic was the only one not locked because he was the only one who could freely travel in and out of Cyberspace, that's even the reason why The End called him "the key" and wanted him to do the dirty work by defeating the titans, which would open the Cyberspace making everyone being able to get out of it, freeing Tails, Knuckles and Amy like Sonic wanted (and Eggman too by an extent), but also freeing The End in the process since it was also trapped in there just like Eggman, Tails, Knuckles and Amy Sage KNEW about The End and wanted to keep it away from being free, that's why she tells Eggman what he did was really silly, and that's the reason she is telling Sonic to leave the whole game while constantly attacking it, while she also is trying to find a way to free Eggman from Cyberspace without freeing The End aswell
11:43 "This dude was gonna take out your enemies. Why didn't you take him out after?" It's a matter of pride, yo. I can't beat Frankenstein's monster in the original Castlevania, but if someone beats him for me and I then kick their ass, it's not gonna make me feel accomplished, because I still know I couldn't beat him.
I get it, because in those two games the writing and the presentation doesn’t emphasise the depths of his achievement, nor does Sonic or the plot take him very seriously. For all of Forces’ faults, at least that game somewhat portrays him as a problem.
To be fair to him, being outplayed by Shadow is an acceptable mistake considering one could argue Shadow himself was sort-of outplayed by his modofied memories, years of repressed resentment at GUN, and Gerald's plot to destroy the world for which he prepared Shadow, the ARK and the Biolizard. It's a lot more understandable for Eggman to be outplayed by all that (which includes his own grandfather) than by some mindless monster or by a 12 year old (or however old Tails is). That, plus Eggman taking an active role in undoing this (and being key in succesfully preventing the end of the world) puts him in Elite in SA2 imo (and Average Villain in SA1)
@@MeeraRustshieldSystemTo be even more fair to him, "mindless monsters" are Gods of Destruction, which actually successfully destroyed worlds and civilizations and "12 year old" is a scientific prodigy genius, who has the same IQ as him.
in sonic generations Eggman should at least be typical bad guy because yes the 2 Eggman's did lose you must remember there are also 2 sonic's in that game
11:42 okay I figure this was just a throwaway line for the sake of making a point but I wanna get into this "This dude was gonna take down your arch-enemies, why didn't you just take him out after?" in issue #14 of the IDW comics, Dr. Starline attempts to destroy Sonic (and Silver) in a well-thought out and executed plan, which appears to succeed. Despite this apparent success however, Eggman is enraged, saying: "The hedgehog is MINE to destroy! I could carpet bomb him any day! That's not enough- that's NOT THE POINT! I have to BEAT HIM! I have to prove I'm SUPERIOR!" Eggman doesn't just want Sonic to be defeated. He specifically wants to be the one to defeat Sonic, and anyone trying to beat him to the punch is his enemy as well.
Bingo. Above all else, Eggman is a narcissist. The end results matter less to him than the act of proving he is the best. Honestly if he ever did take over the planet completely I think he'd basicslly stop with the evil schemes and just go into retirement until someone else showed up that could challenge him.
I was just about to reference this exact moment from the IDW comics, and it was such a brilliant one too because I felt like it was meant in a way to answer that question that I think alot of us had about Eggman when it comes to him either saving or working with Sonic, someone you'd think he would just allow to die.
Heck, Forces blatantly spells it out in the story. Sonic was kept alive for half a year, so just Eggman could launch him into space while showing the entire world was conquered by him.
@@issysmee6140 classic games The fastest thing alive Adventure 1 The fastest thing alive Adventure 2 Good but Overshadowed Heroes Typical hero 06 Barley does anything Unleashed The fastest thing alive Colors Boring Generations The fastest thing alive Lost world Boring Boom Worthless Mania The fastest thing alive Forces Boring Superstars The fastest thing alive
Very happy to see Sonic CD be elite! The lengths he goes in that game is truly horrifying, to the point where I personally consider it to be the darkest Sonic game of them all, even more than SA2 and Shadow. He’s a complete psychopath in Sonic CD, and every single bad future and it’s music will make you feel awful every time. You can’t do anything, so don’t even try. Horrifying. Nightmare level villainy, if you ask me.
Sonic CD is underrated. 4 different versions of every stage makes every time feel fresh to play. I just wish they could’ve made another Sonic game like it and evolved the concept.
Remember to NEVER buy a third party switch dock. There is a chance that it gets bricked every time there’s an update and to this date it hasn’t been resolved.
Who else can never look at Sonic Adventure 2 the same way again after the fandub? All I hear anymore is "I've come to make an announcement, Shadow the Hedgehog's a bi-"
7:11 - You kinda glossed over the parts where Eggman and Eggman Nega beat up Blaze with the Egg Salamander to get the Sol Emeralds, used the Sol Emeralds to tap into The Power of the Stars (a primordial cosmic power that can reshape the multiverse), almost merged Sonic’s universe with the Sol Dimension with the now Super-level Egg Salamander, and took on two Super forms at once in an even fight. Also, the Egg Salamander is one of the few Eggman machines that can outright hurt a Super form. So this is easy bump to Pretty Menacing.
Sonic Rush games for Eggman boss are really crazy for me that I really loved. The egg wizard & egg salamander being Multiversal+ power of the stars, having magical abilities The sheer force of its power can create earthquakes and when channeled, it can destroy entire planets. On its own, the Egg Wizard is capable of flight at speeds matching that of Super Sonic and Burning Blaze. It can also launch excessively large missiles and restore itself at will. I believe the egg wizard is also Eggman's most powerful weapon besides the time eater,final egg blaster etc. I love the Eggman bosses so much:3
Notice how all of Eggman's "elite" games, involve him winning for someduration of time? I feel like that's not a good enough metric for his threat levels given that he is just as clearly a MAJOR threat in games like Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Adventure. I think there needs to be another tier that reads something like "Just Shy of Success/Elite" cause a lot of the ones that got placed in the "A Major Threat" tier feel like they range in threat levels. I guess I'm saying that the "A Major Threat" tier needs to be separated into 2 tiers so that the stuff that would qualify as "more likely to end the world" could be properly separated from the stuff that "is only threatening to x specific character".
Actually you gotta shoutout eggman from the boom show even if heres a saturday morning cartoon villian and sometimes does weird shit he just so unbelievable lovable and his design is so good and quotable like "The soup is cold and Salad is hot HOWS THAT EVEM POSS-" "SONIC YOU HAVE TO HELP ME , Or else ill comeback and destroy you again" "Shut it down or ill smash you into next Tuesday" "Im business next tuesday"
Would give extra point for Eggman by aiming and shooting Sonic like an insane supersonic bullet at The End on the Sonic Frontiers DLC. Yeah it wasn't evil but it was useful for everyone and that scene was epic as fuck
Hard disagree on Sonic Rush. There may have been two Eggmen, but they weren’t fighting just one Sonic. Blaze was there too. The two Eggmen almost ripped apart two different dimensions, Rush absolutely deserves higher.
Sonic Chronicles: Elite -> Gets quite far in pre-story -> Gets mugged -> Joins the gang -> BTFO's IX in Chapter 5 -> Is OP in Chapter 5 -> Creates a working Spaceship in Chapter 6 -> Takes over the world during 2nd half of the story
Now I want a video like this for Dr. Wily because of how often the games portray him as just pathetic. I genuinely want to see if even a single Wily appearance would end up in Elite tier.
Hey to be fair in Sonic Generations the two Robotniks had to go against two Sonics. I mean if one Sonic can beat one Robotnik, how could two Robotniks beat two Sonics? So I don't exactly agree with you on this one. The other one I don't quite agree with is actually Sonic 4 episode 1. I think he should be kind of dumb in that because he is literally doing the same bosses all over again with the third one actually being a little different but that's it.
*The most moustachioed villain ever, Eggman. I love him, not only on the design level, first he gets divinities, I help Sonic and then he also has a daughter.*
Eggman Nega is confirmed to be from Silver's future and as Eggman's descendant. It's never clarified well in the source materials. But in all likelihood, Eggman Nega poised himself as an alternate counterpart of Eggman to make sure he doesn't… you know… get written out of existence by accident by revealing he's his descendant. Also, speaking of Rivals, Eggman actually plays a crucial role in Rivals 2 because he's always in communication with Shadow about Nega's plans. I don't know where he'd be ranked here seeing as he doesn't play the villain here. He's implicitly in Rivals but he's been into a card by the start of the game, so he'd be ranked Worthless.
Some things with S3&K: Robotnik torches Angel Island in the intro stage, and destroys Marble Garden along the way. I think it contends only with Sonic CD in the early games at how ruthless he can be overall. In Sonic Chronicles, iirc, he takes over while Sonic and Co. are away (in another dimension?) towards the end of the game, and the final cutscene is him greeting him when he comes back.
I feel like one people forget is Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. Eggman is a playable character for a while up until the game's final level, then takes over the world while Sonic and company are gone. They definitely wanted to set up for a sequel, and then we just never got one. So... Eggman wins, the end.
Gotta Say Eggman in SA2 should be Elite. Though he ended up having to help save the world, he destroyed half the moon and got away with it, WITHOUT Sonic beating him up. Instead, Shadow almost paid the price. He's also the only rendition of Eggman who would of killed Sonic if it weren't for an Ex Machina moment.
Also Sonic Battle pretty much re-tells the story of Sonic games once you read the journals. Eggman had the journal entries all along and it's why Sonic and co. even met in the first place. If it weren't for Eggman's meddling and trying to follow in his grandfather's legacy, no Sonic game would have happened.
New game idea Title: Sonic: Warped Realities Story Outline: Dr. Eggman, always seeking new ways to conquer, creates a wormhole that leads to an alternate reality where time flows much more slowly. In this alternate world, he spends what feels like decades building up his technology and army, while only an hour passes in Sonic's reality. As he enters the portal, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and the rest of the gang try to stop him but fail. Eggman detonates the wormhole, sealing himself inside. While the gang is suspicious, they believe they might have foiled his plan for the moment. Exactly one hour later, Eggman re-emerges with technology far beyond anything they've ever seen and an army of advanced robotic forces. His new empire spans cities, with massive battle mechs, towering fortresses, and legions of robot soldiers that seem invincible. Now, Sonic and his friends must scramble to stop Eggman before he fully invades their reality. They will need to gather allies from across dimensions, harness the Chaos Emeralds, and maybe even explore fragments of the alternate reality to find weaknesses in Eggman’s new technology. Gameplay Features: 1. Dimensional Travel: Sonic and his team can open small rifts into Eggman’s conquered alternate reality to sabotage key structures and weaken his forces in their world. 2. Time Manipulation: Certain stages could play with time, with slow-motion segments allowing for intense, precise platforming and combat. 3. Advanced Boss Battles: Each boss battle would incorporate Eggman's futuristic tech, with massive, complex robots that require new strategies to defeat. 4. Multiple Playable Characters: Players can switch between Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and more, each with unique abilities suited to different stages of the game. Tails might focus on tech hacking to disable Eggman’s systems, while Knuckles could focus on brute force combat. 5. Chaos Emerald Power-Ups: Harnessing the Chaos Emeralds will be more critical than ever. The characters could access new, powerful forms to battle against Eggman's new high-tech enemies. 6. Massive Army Battles: There could be epic sequences where Sonic and his friends have to fend off hordes of Eggman’s advanced robots in large-scale battles, similar to war scenarios, where strategy and teamwork are key. 7. Post-Eggman Invasion World: As the game progresses, the environment becomes more hostile and warped by Eggman’s influence, with high-tech fortresses replacing once-familiar locations. Final Battle: The climax of the game could involve Sonic and his friends launching a final assault on Eggman’s ultimate fortress, possibly involving a reality-bending fight where they have to defeat Eggman across multiple dimensions and timelines to prevent him from conquering both realities. This could be an intense, fast-paced, and visually stunning Sonic game with a unique twist on time and dimension hopping.
Well, i was hoping to see Knuckles Chaotix here since eggman did a massive genocide with Metal Sonic Kai on the bad ending, not to mention that he was kinda menacing and stuff there too, but i forgot that says "Sonic Games", so...
You forgot to mention he didn't give up after being beaten by sonic in sonic 3 and knuckles, and instead sends mecha sonic to attempt to steal the master emerald immediately after sonic and tails leave, leaving only knuckles to fight the robot with the ability to go super... Hey wait a god damn second, HOW DOES THAT NOT IMMEDIATELY MAKE IT ELITE? HE'S MANAGED TO MAKE A TEMPORARY SUPER SONIC WITH LASERS, BULLSHIT THAT AIN'T ELITE!
Robotnik is literally one of the most useless villain's if you count the Mike Pollock era. Before that, he is more of a villain that is worth mentioning
Missing Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood again. In that one, Eggman joins the Sonic and friends against a bigger threat. Starts to get along with most of them, even has some mentor-like interactions with Tails. Kinda likeable even, though impulsive. Then predictably, he ends up betraying them in the end. Not sure what tier that is, Kinda Dumb? It wasn't that great of a plan, and he would've been better off just... not betraying them.
Well, he takes over the world after betraying the heroes. And considering the game never got a sequel (because of the massive legal kerfuffle that resulted once Ken Penders got wind of some of the characters and their similarities to his OCs), we can safely assume he triumphed in that continuity and the good guys had to pack their bags forever. So he's in the Elite tier there. In fact, he's SSS Elite in Sonic Chronicles.
Friendly reminder that all of 06's character designs are peak AF, Eggman included. I'll never pretend it's not good, I'll keep waiting for when the world also stops pretending as well. Thank you for your time gentlemen, move along now.
whoa wait a minute. in the CANON ending to Shadow Eggman reveals that the playable shadow is indeed the REAL Shadow and everything up until that moment was just a lie to manipulate him. since the ending is that the real Shadow saved the entire world i'd say that the revelation that he is the OG Shadow and has all the power is a pretty important moment. Eggman may not have been the final endgame villain but he was an essential element to the fate of the world. INSTANT S CLASS. i dont care if you disagree you are wrong!
In Sonic Chronicles : The Dark Brotherhood, Eggman got very nice abilities and can even be the best solution when put in the same team as Tails, as they have a tag team attack that oneshots certain enemies. He even achieves world domination at the end of the game
Unleashed Eggman is the *single most dangerous* Eggman we have ever seen. A lot of people focus on the fact that he shattered the world into pieces. But consider the incredible power that Super Sonic wields, and the fact the this Eggman not only captures him, but *forcibly rips* him out of his Super state, and tears the Emeralds out of him. The only other one who has been able to force Super Sonic out of his Super form (excluding comics) was Knuckles in Sonic 3; and that was most likely only because he used the Master Emerald to disable them.
It's still funny that the only reason Eggman lost in Sonic Colors was because his robots failed to clean the first boss fight properly, in spite of his rushed craftsmanship. Even the mind control cannon is an improvement over SA2. Why have to threaten the planet all the time when you can just mind control the inhabitants?
in SA2 you forgot several things Eggman did. He blew up an entire military island, infiltrated a base in the first place to get shadow, threatened to kill amy at gunpoint. But of course the ARK wasn't Eggman's plan really, it was moreso shadow- or most rather.. Gerald robotnik.
it hurts my soul that Sonic Chronicles the dark brotherhood isnt here. sure he wasnt the main bad guy. but he did pretend to join sonics gang then convinces them its best he stays behind on earth and when they come back he has the entire planet under his control with dystopian cities everywhere. immediately alerted when Sonic and the gang returns. though I guess we didnt get to see how dangerous he was here because the continuation never happened. which will always haunt me
3:33 hey I don’t know if this means anything to you but the reason of why sonic goes after Eggman and why he’s slow is because egg man replaced sonic normal shoes with his own designed slow shoes that have a chaos emerald in them and they look exactly like sonic shoes except for the fact that egg man put his face on the bottom of the shoe so sonic immediately was so he goes after him and gets the chaos emerald along the way😅
shoutout to when eggman literally grabbed sonic and held him underwater trying to drown him in sonic x
Which episode was it ?
@XyioteMusic2023 thanks
@@alidashti2633which 1 did he say? The comment got deleted
Because it never happened @@ethanwayne6973
I remember that. Back when eggman said that he’ll do it himself.
He’s almost always there, and you found a way to make him not as high as you think. Nice job dude.
Thanks!
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@@krisdreemurr3533 hey kris
Fancy seeing you here
@@jeremymklingerI have a challenge how useless is sonic in every sonic game
He is always there, unlike Bowser who had to skip Mario 2 US Version,
Did dude literally forget that in SA2 he had a stranglehold on the whole plot and also blew up prison island in a successful operation to cover his tracks? The hero’s had to always play catch up with Eggman throughout the story and he literally almost killed Sonic. I think SA2 is in the elite teir.
And literally pointed a gun at Amy 😂
In every game in elite tier, Eggman was victorious in some sort of way. Though it was short-lived, Shadow and Eggman canonically beat Sonic and Tails in Sonic Adventure 2. Maybe put it at the bottom, since he ultimately got played, but I do agree SA2 should be elite.
@@omnichaos80 Tbf, he's also part of the 'winning team' during the final story
Bro, he got Shadow on his team, was a playable character, blew up THE MOON, and "killed" Sonic.
SA2 Eggman is a straight up menace, and even gets a turn as the hero.
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@@perotekku he was as much of a menace in Unleashed
3 things I want to point out:
1. In Sonic Unleashed, Eggman didn't want to control a beast that was beyond his control, he didn't want to control Dark Gaia, he just wanted to harness Dark Gaia's energy to use on his things, at the end when Dark Gaia was whole again, he just told Dark Gaia to crush Sonic but that didn't work at all
2. And in Sonic Frontiers, Eggman ALSO didn't want to control a beast that was beyond his control, Eggman came to the Starfall Islands in search of the secrets of the Ancient technologies, so he could study it and create better machines, weapons, etc. The Cyberspace is where all the Ancients knowlodge and memories are stored so Eggman wanted those for his own selfish reasons, but during the process he accidentally activated the entire archipelago's security system made to protect anyone from freeing The End, making everything be activated on the islands, the guardians and titans appearing, Cyberspace locking everyone in, the Chaos Emeralds being locked in vaults, etc.
3. It wasn't Sage who locked up Sonic's friends, she was helping Eggman on the outside since he couldn't leave Cyberspace, yes, but Tails, Knuckles and Amy were locked inside of Cyberspace for the same reason Eggman did, the Island was trying to secure The End from being free, Sonic was the only one not locked because he was the only one who could freely travel in and out of Cyberspace, that's even the reason why The End called him "the key" and wanted him to do the dirty work by defeating the titans, which would open the Cyberspace making everyone being able to get out of it, freeing Tails, Knuckles and Amy like Sonic wanted (and Eggman too by an extent), but also freeing The End in the process since it was also trapped in there just like Eggman, Tails, Knuckles and Amy
Sage KNEW about The End and wanted to keep it away from being free, that's why she tells Eggman what he did was really silly, and that's the reason she is telling Sonic to leave the whole game while constantly attacking it, while she also is trying to find a way to free Eggman from Cyberspace without freeing The End aswell
If anything, Eggman deserves some praise for creating Sage
And praise for being a father to Sage @@eduardodias2073
Dark Gaia obeys no one.
And in Forces, he didn't want to burn the planet at that moment. He even yells at Infinite that he is doing the plan too early but couldn't stop it.
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"I have but one rule, I don't follow the rules. Do you follow? I don't." - Dark Gaia, maybe.
S3&K he napalms a whole jungle and actually fires the death egg to reignite a volcano, elite
Yeah I'm super confused as to why he didn't put Sonic 3 & Knuckles in ELITE
Made a Mecha sonic, waited until sonic and tails leave, tries again with it, and it even goes super, like wtf, did he not do research at all?
In Knuckles chaotix, it's an entire city that is set ablazed !
Took me a moment to realize what you were talking about with regards to firing the Death Egg lmao
I agree the napalming of an entire rainforest is horrific and quite life like
11:43 "This dude was gonna take out your enemies. Why didn't you take him out after?" It's a matter of pride, yo. I can't beat Frankenstein's monster in the original Castlevania, but if someone beats him for me and I then kick their ass, it's not gonna make me feel accomplished, because I still know I couldn't beat him.
Exactly. Eggman doesn't just want Sonic to die. He was a strong canonical rivalry with Sonic and wants to defeat him personally.
This is the same reason he saved Sonic from falling into lava once in the master system Sonic 2.
@@elliec2943and lost world
In IDW comics he says something like "I could carpet bomb them any time, but that would be cheating"
Also, that's not any Eggman, that's Boom Eggman. If you watch the show, you'll realize they are more like frenemies than anything
Eggman: enslaves a whole race
*Typical bad guy tier*
That’s not typical bad guy it’s menacing
Don't forget about him erasing time itself and technically killing all of Sonic's Friends (if admittedly temporarily) being classified as "Kinda Dumb"
I get it, because in those two games the writing and the presentation doesn’t emphasise the depths of his achievement, nor does Sonic or the plot take him very seriously. For all of Forces’ faults, at least that game somewhat portrays him as a problem.
@@superhypershadowx For not thinking things through, perhaps that's why he categorized it like that.
I love that Eggman had a backup Egg Carrier only for Perfect Chaos to immediately destroy it.
He has an entire fleet
I like to think it shows how ballsy eggman is, literally charges head on at a god of destruction with a ship
@@doomboom1255 How overinflated his ego is.
WERE PISSING ON THE MOON WITH THIS ONE!!!
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@@JelloJio
Sonic Adventure 2 Real Time fandub
I knew someone was going to say that joke eventually. Lol! 😂
@@JelloJio how do you not know
4:45 "im gonna make an announcement"
"SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG IS A SON OF A B-"
I was about to say SA2 is an easy Elite tier but I keep forgetting that Shadow did outplay him there lol
To be fair to him, being outplayed by Shadow is an acceptable mistake considering one could argue Shadow himself was sort-of outplayed by his modofied memories, years of repressed resentment at GUN, and Gerald's plot to destroy the world for which he prepared Shadow, the ARK and the Biolizard.
It's a lot more understandable for Eggman to be outplayed by all that (which includes his own grandfather) than by some mindless monster or by a 12 year old (or however old Tails is). That, plus Eggman taking an active role in undoing this (and being key in succesfully preventing the end of the world) puts him in Elite in SA2 imo (and Average Villain in SA1)
Bro destroyed half of the moon for fun
Also pissed on his wife too
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Snapcube fandub will never leave my head
@@MeeraRustshieldSystemTo be even more fair to him, "mindless monsters" are Gods of Destruction, which actually successfully destroyed worlds and civilizations and "12 year old" is a scientific prodigy genius, who has the same IQ as him.
He just pissed on his wife
in sonic generations Eggman should at least be typical bad guy because yes the 2 Eggman's did lose you must remember there are also 2 sonic's in that game
@@rookmaster69 Fair enough
@jeremymklinger you mean the time stone from marvel
@@jjohnson2445 what does that have to do with anything
Yeah but his plan was to erase his setbacks from the past
11:42 okay I figure this was just a throwaway line for the sake of making a point but I wanna get into this
"This dude was gonna take down your arch-enemies, why didn't you just take him out after?"
in issue #14 of the IDW comics, Dr. Starline attempts to destroy Sonic (and Silver) in a well-thought out and executed plan, which appears to succeed. Despite this apparent success however, Eggman is enraged, saying: "The hedgehog is MINE to destroy! I could carpet bomb him any day! That's not enough- that's NOT THE POINT! I have to BEAT HIM! I have to prove I'm SUPERIOR!"
Eggman doesn't just want Sonic to be defeated. He specifically wants to be the one to defeat Sonic, and anyone trying to beat him to the punch is his enemy as well.
Bingo. Above all else, Eggman is a narcissist. The end results matter less to him than the act of proving he is the best. Honestly if he ever did take over the planet completely I think he'd basicslly stop with the evil schemes and just go into retirement until someone else showed up that could challenge him.
@vigorouslethargy we also see this in shadow when he declares war on the black arms because they're gonna destroy the city and not him
I was just about to reference this exact moment from the IDW comics, and it was such a brilliant one too because I felt like it was meant in a way to answer that question that I think alot of us had about Eggman when it comes to him either saving or working with Sonic, someone you'd think he would just allow to die.
Hes like luthor. He wants to be the one to do it, not some random nobody
Heck, Forces blatantly spells it out in the story. Sonic was kept alive for half a year, so just Eggman could launch him into space while showing the entire world was conquered by him.
at first he think he's bowser and he keep kidnapping the princess
got me rolling on the floor ngl, also when metal sonic's turn?
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@@SparklingJam Ok, but what about sonic’s?
@@issysmee6140 classic games
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The fastest thing alive
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Good but Overshadowed
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Barley does anything
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The fastest thing alive
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yeah but holy shit manipulating the whole damn future of the world is kinda hardcore
@@SparklingJamYou forgot frontiers. And that one is fastest thing alive tier
4:35 "DID YOU SEE THAT HOT JPEG FOOTAGE? IT WAS JUST-"
"Martha im coming home sweetie"
Goin uuUUPPPP!!!
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Oooo-hoo-hoo, baby! I'm gonna blow the WALLS offa this place!
I Have a Fresh New Idea
Rank how Useless every character in Super Smash Bros Brawl is, Specifically, Subspace Emmisary!
@@pabzplayz2330 I love that idea! Definitely coming soon!
Subspace huh? Calling it: Kirby, Meta Knight, and Dedede are getting the Elite tier since they do a lot of the heavy lifting lol
@@jeremymklingerThat video will be great I promise
@@zeospark9715Sakurai’s character does something important cliché
Jigglypuff, Toon Link, and Wolf are completely useless in Subspace since they aren't even part of the main story
Very happy to see Sonic CD be elite! The lengths he goes in that game is truly horrifying, to the point where I personally consider it to be the darkest Sonic game of them all, even more than SA2 and Shadow. He’s a complete psychopath in Sonic CD, and every single bad future and it’s music will make you feel awful every time. You can’t do anything, so don’t even try. Horrifying. Nightmare level villainy, if you ask me.
@@Amphy516 100% the boss music alone says it all
No wonder Sonic CD was the best in my book.
Sonic CD is underrated. 4 different versions of every stage makes every time feel fresh to play. I just wish they could’ve made another Sonic game like it and evolved the concept.
The JP Mix: 🕺💃🪩
Sonic CD is my favourite Sonic game so I see this as a W
4:51 yeah with his super laser piss
Ranking How USELESS King Dedede is in Every Kirby Game
Ranking How USELESS Percy is in Every Thomas Episode & Movie
Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas 🎁🎄
Piece out
That’s a wonderful idea!
I wonder how Kirby fighters 2 would rank since king dedede made a giant tower with meta knight to challenge Kirby
@@Corey1067-si2wc then we can rank how useless meta knight is.
Remember to NEVER buy a third party switch dock. There is a chance that it gets bricked every time there’s an update and to this date it hasn’t been resolved.
10:32 bro is a silly Billy 😭🙏
MY WAY!!!
Who else can never look at Sonic Adventure 2 the same way again after the fandub?
All I hear anymore is "I've come to make an announcement, Shadow the Hedgehog's a bi-"
With the context of sonic frontiers
He pissed on the moon...
TWICE
You're a beta male, Sonic
Bro egg man 06 thinks he’s bowser 💀💀💀 7:25
Why is it so hard to hit the time Stamp
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Next how useless is Sonic in EVERY Sonic Game?
The irony of Sonic being pretty useless in Sonic 06, when the game is literally called "Sonic the Hedgehog"
huh?
You do realize that sonic would get all elites in that video right?
@@alex-29789 that's the joke
@@alex-29789 Adventure 2 and Unleashed he lost some parts whole 06 he was wtf
7:11 - You kinda glossed over the parts where Eggman and Eggman Nega beat up Blaze with the Egg Salamander to get the Sol Emeralds, used the Sol Emeralds to tap into The Power of the Stars (a primordial cosmic power that can reshape the multiverse), almost merged Sonic’s universe with the Sol Dimension with the now Super-level Egg Salamander, and took on two Super forms at once in an even fight. Also, the Egg Salamander is one of the few Eggman machines that can outright hurt a Super form. So this is easy bump to Pretty Menacing.
8:58 WHY MEEEEEEEEEE??? 👺👺👺
4:45 "I'VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT-"
IM PISSING ON THE MOON !
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA?
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Sonic Rush games for Eggman boss are really crazy for me that I really loved.
The egg wizard & egg salamander being Multiversal+ power of the stars, having magical abilities The sheer force of its power can create earthquakes and when channeled, it can destroy entire planets. On its own, the Egg Wizard is capable of flight at speeds matching that of Super Sonic and Burning Blaze. It can also launch excessively large missiles and restore itself at will.
I believe the egg wizard is also Eggman's most powerful weapon besides the time eater,final egg blaster etc.
I love the Eggman bosses so much:3
Yeah Egg Wizard went super overlooked in this video it should at least be one tier higher for sonic rush adventure imo
Hey Jeremy it's me the guy who won the gamcube, I love your "how useless is" series
@@samuelmelendez7566 Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the series!
Notice how all of Eggman's "elite" games, involve him winning for someduration of time? I feel like that's not a good enough metric for his threat levels given that he is just as clearly a MAJOR threat in games like Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Adventure. I think there needs to be another tier that reads something like "Just Shy of Success/Elite" cause a lot of the ones that got placed in the "A Major Threat" tier feel like they range in threat levels. I guess I'm saying that the "A Major Threat" tier needs to be separated into 2 tiers so that the stuff that would qualify as "more likely to end the world" could be properly separated from the stuff that "is only threatening to x specific character".
Now ranking every metal sonic from useless to elite
Sonic heroes elite
Everything else typical bad guy even sonic riders which is big sad
Actually you gotta shoutout eggman from the boom show even if heres a saturday morning cartoon villian and sometimes does weird shit he just so unbelievable lovable and his design is so good and quotable like
"The soup is cold and Salad is hot HOWS THAT EVEM POSS-"
"SONIC YOU HAVE TO HELP ME , Or else ill comeback and destroy you again"
"Shut it down or ill smash you into next Tuesday"
"Im business next tuesday"
That's not a dock, it's a passthrough connector. A dock wouldn't require laying the switch face-up exposed to open air.
You forgot to mention in SA2 Eggman also blows up GUN's military base/island.
Would give extra point for Eggman by aiming and shooting Sonic like an insane supersonic bullet at The End on the Sonic Frontiers DLC. Yeah it wasn't evil but it was useful for everyone and that scene was epic as fuck
Hard disagree on Sonic Rush. There may have been two Eggmen, but they weren’t fighting just one Sonic. Blaze was there too.
The two Eggmen almost ripped apart two different dimensions, Rush absolutely deserves higher.
Sonic Chronicles: Elite
-> Gets quite far in pre-story
-> Gets mugged
-> Joins the gang
-> BTFO's IX in Chapter 5
-> Is OP in Chapter 5
-> Creates a working Spaceship in Chapter 6
-> Takes over the world during 2nd half of the story
9:20 so you mean when i keep going in the fridge hoping there is food i like💀
Im insane guys😵💫
the cunning bald egg finally got a video
putting frontiers eggman in “kinda dumb” even though he’s the main catalyst for why the story even happens to begin with is hilarious ngl
Perhaps you could do How Useless Super Sonic is in Every Sonic Game! That'd be a really cool one to see!
Sonic 1 loses
Now I want a video like this for Dr. Wily because of how often the games portray him as just pathetic. I genuinely want to see if even a single Wily appearance would end up in Elite tier.
2:19 You forgot to add the "Yes" 1-Up sound for Elite
Hey to be fair in Sonic Generations the two Robotniks had to go against two Sonics. I mean if one Sonic can beat one Robotnik, how could two Robotniks beat two Sonics? So I don't exactly agree with you on this one.
The other one I don't quite agree with is actually Sonic 4 episode 1. I think he should be kind of dumb in that because he is literally doing the same bosses all over again with the third one actually being a little different but that's it.
*The most moustachioed villain ever, Eggman. I love him, not only on the design level, first he gets divinities, I help Sonic and then he also has a daughter.*
He is the eggman
Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas 🎁🎄
Piece out
Piece out
That's what he is
I disagree about calling the death egg robot a disappointing final boss it is a good final boss and it is nostalgic
Eggman was pretty menacing when he pissed on the moon
In two of the DIC cartoons, Robotnik was NOT useless. He actually CONQUERED Mobius.
Eggman Nega is confirmed to be from Silver's future and as Eggman's descendant.
It's never clarified well in the source materials. But in all likelihood, Eggman Nega poised himself as an alternate counterpart of Eggman to make sure he doesn't… you know… get written out of existence by accident by revealing he's his descendant.
Also, speaking of Rivals, Eggman actually plays a crucial role in Rivals 2 because he's always in communication with Shadow about Nega's plans. I don't know where he'd be ranked here seeing as he doesn't play the villain here.
He's implicitly in Rivals but he's been into a card by the start of the game, so he'd be ranked Worthless.
Some things with S3&K: Robotnik torches Angel Island in the intro stage, and destroys Marble Garden along the way. I think it contends only with Sonic CD in the early games at how ruthless he can be overall.
In Sonic Chronicles, iirc, he takes over while Sonic and Co. are away (in another dimension?) towards the end of the game, and the final cutscene is him greeting him when he comes back.
Nice vid question can you rate how useful sonic character tier list?
Sonic rush adventure eggman calls the white mustache man nega💀
Honestly, Egghead was really close to Shadow’s standards. but Sonic Heroes is a WORTHLESS
Edit: HOLY GEEZ 30 LIKES?
Bro got jumped by the Chaotix
@@MaximilianMackreyChaotix is not in the video. Also, damn 25 likes?
@@mariaandreinaaranareggeti9239Did you forget Team Chaotix
@@mariaandreinaaranareggeti9239 no I meant Charmy, Vector, And Espio beat him up in heroes
Oh, silly me
5:39 this is what I came for
To be fair for Generations, he was dealing with 2 Tails, and 2 Sonics. Kind of hard to really say that's on him even with 2 of him.
I feel like one people forget is Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. Eggman is a playable character for a while up until the game's final level, then takes over the world while Sonic and company are gone.
They definitely wanted to set up for a sequel, and then we just never got one. So... Eggman wins, the end.
If you want to be funny technical, Frontiers was a legit Eggman Victory.
Sonic was at the time part of the Eggman Empire when he saved the day
I am glad you brought that up... Every time Sonic chase Eggman on foot, he never catches up to him so this makes Eggman faster than Sonic!
Gotta Say Eggman in SA2 should be Elite.
Though he ended up having to help save the world, he destroyed half the moon and got away with it, WITHOUT Sonic beating him up. Instead, Shadow almost paid the price.
He's also the only rendition of Eggman who would of killed Sonic if it weren't for an Ex Machina moment.
1:34
I saw an animation that better explains this being Sonic gets tired from fighting Silver Sonic. Which is why bro gets away so easily.
Definitely should have included Sonic Battle!
Also Sonic Battle pretty much re-tells the story of Sonic games once you read the journals. Eggman had the journal entries all along and it's why Sonic and co. even met in the first place. If it weren't for Eggman's meddling and trying to follow in his grandfather's legacy, no Sonic game would have happened.
New game idea
Title: Sonic: Warped Realities
Story Outline: Dr. Eggman, always seeking new ways to conquer, creates a wormhole that leads to an alternate reality where time flows much more slowly. In this alternate world, he spends what feels like decades building up his technology and army, while only an hour passes in Sonic's reality. As he enters the portal, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and the rest of the gang try to stop him but fail. Eggman detonates the wormhole, sealing himself inside. While the gang is suspicious, they believe they might have foiled his plan for the moment.
Exactly one hour later, Eggman re-emerges with technology far beyond anything they've ever seen and an army of advanced robotic forces. His new empire spans cities, with massive battle mechs, towering fortresses, and legions of robot soldiers that seem invincible.
Now, Sonic and his friends must scramble to stop Eggman before he fully invades their reality. They will need to gather allies from across dimensions, harness the Chaos Emeralds, and maybe even explore fragments of the alternate reality to find weaknesses in Eggman’s new technology.
Gameplay Features:
1. Dimensional Travel: Sonic and his team can open small rifts into Eggman’s conquered alternate reality to sabotage key structures and weaken his forces in their world.
2. Time Manipulation: Certain stages could play with time, with slow-motion segments allowing for intense, precise platforming and combat.
3. Advanced Boss Battles: Each boss battle would incorporate Eggman's futuristic tech, with massive, complex robots that require new strategies to defeat.
4. Multiple Playable Characters: Players can switch between Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and more, each with unique abilities suited to different stages of the game. Tails might focus on tech hacking to disable Eggman’s systems, while Knuckles could focus on brute force combat.
5. Chaos Emerald Power-Ups: Harnessing the Chaos Emeralds will be more critical than ever. The characters could access new, powerful forms to battle against Eggman's new high-tech enemies.
6. Massive Army Battles: There could be epic sequences where Sonic and his friends have to fend off hordes of Eggman’s advanced robots in large-scale battles, similar to war scenarios, where strategy and teamwork are key.
7. Post-Eggman Invasion World: As the game progresses, the environment becomes more hostile and warped by Eggman’s influence, with high-tech fortresses replacing once-familiar locations.
Final Battle: The climax of the game could involve Sonic and his friends launching a final assault on Eggman’s ultimate fortress, possibly involving a reality-bending fight where they have to defeat Eggman across multiple dimensions and timelines to prevent him from conquering both realities.
This could be an intense, fast-paced, and visually stunning Sonic game with a unique twist on time and dimension hopping.
In eggman's defense for the Rush games and Generations, there WERE two sonics, so...
1:19 just let him go for you when he's diving dodge and go behind him until the jetpack goes off
Well, i was hoping to see Knuckles Chaotix here since eggman did a massive genocide with Metal Sonic Kai on the bad ending, not to mention that he was kinda menacing and stuff there too, but i forgot that says "Sonic Games", so...
There’s one game missing, at least from the top of my head, Sonic chronicles the dark Brotherhood for the DS
13:20 small nitpick, but Eggman doesn’t lock up Sonic’s friends in Frontiers. It was Cyberspace that did that
You forgot to mention he didn't give up after being beaten by sonic in sonic 3 and knuckles, and instead sends mecha sonic to attempt to steal the master emerald immediately after sonic and tails leave, leaving only knuckles to fight the robot with the ability to go super... Hey wait a god damn second, HOW DOES THAT NOT IMMEDIATELY MAKE IT ELITE? HE'S MANAGED TO MAKE A TEMPORARY SUPER SONIC WITH LASERS, BULLSHIT THAT AIN'T ELITE!
We need to find the secret to his perfect mustache..
Robotnik is literally one of the most useless villain's if you count the Mike Pollock era. Before that, he is more of a villain that is worth mentioning
Missing Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood again.
In that one, Eggman joins the Sonic and friends against a bigger threat. Starts to get along with most of them, even has some mentor-like interactions with Tails. Kinda likeable even, though impulsive. Then predictably, he ends up betraying them in the end. Not sure what tier that is, Kinda Dumb? It wasn't that great of a plan, and he would've been better off just... not betraying them.
Well, he takes over the world after betraying the heroes. And considering the game never got a sequel (because of the massive legal kerfuffle that resulted once Ken Penders got wind of some of the characters and their similarities to his OCs), we can safely assume he triumphed in that continuity and the good guys had to pack their bags forever. So he's in the Elite tier there. In fact, he's SSS Elite in Sonic Chronicles.
Eggman casually blows up half of the moon AS a warning
How does the first Death Egg Robot LOSE points for being so hard to hit? If anything, he should be gaining points for that cause it's more threatening
11:41 "YOU CANT KILL THEM! ONLY I CAN DO THAT"
12:46 Batman ain’t got nothing on him
Friendly reminder that all of 06's character designs are peak AF, Eggman included. I'll never pretend it's not good, I'll keep waiting for when the world also stops pretending as well. Thank you for your time gentlemen, move along now.
“He kidnaps animals, but this time, some of them are BIG”
I don’t know why it came off as funny as it did for me
You barely touch his actual plan in Frontier. It’s not elite, but I will say its menacing.
Eggman in Sonic Adventure 2 is pretty menacing, but that damn fandub made it where all we can think is "MY SUPER LASER PISS"
Sa2 eggmans deserves elite tier, he pissed on the moon for goodness sake
whoa wait a minute.
in the CANON ending to Shadow Eggman reveals that the playable shadow is indeed the REAL Shadow and everything up until that moment was just a lie to manipulate him.
since the ending is that the real Shadow saved the entire world i'd say that the revelation that he is the OG Shadow and has all the power is a pretty important moment.
Eggman may not have been the final endgame villain but he was an essential element to the fate of the world.
INSTANT S CLASS.
i dont care if you disagree you are wrong!
Egg man in frontiers, he maybe dumb but he’s a father now lol
He held Amy at gun point in SA2, that got him the top spot for me
The “I actually took over the world and made an amusement park one was pretty legit
In Sonic Chronicles : The Dark Brotherhood, Eggman got very nice abilities and can even be the best solution when put in the same team as Tails, as they have a tag team attack that oneshots certain enemies. He even achieves world domination at the end of the game
Honestly i actually liked being able to play Eggman in Sonic Chronicles.
He was a good character i feel like.
Unleashed Eggman is the *single most dangerous* Eggman we have ever seen.
A lot of people focus on the fact that he shattered the world into pieces. But consider the incredible power that Super Sonic wields, and the fact the this Eggman not only captures him, but *forcibly rips* him out of his Super state, and tears the Emeralds out of him.
The only other one who has been able to force Super Sonic out of his Super form (excluding comics) was Knuckles in Sonic 3; and that was most likely only because he used the Master Emerald to disable them.
*pisses on the moon and obliterates half of it* "thats pretty menacing"
It's still funny that the only reason Eggman lost in Sonic Colors was because his robots failed to clean the first boss fight properly, in spite of his rushed craftsmanship.
Even the mind control cannon is an improvement over SA2. Why have to threaten the planet all the time when you can just mind control the inhabitants?
in SA2 you forgot several things Eggman did. He blew up an entire military island, infiltrated a base in the first place to get shadow, threatened to kill amy at gunpoint. But of course the ARK wasn't Eggman's plan really, it was moreso shadow- or most rather.. Gerald robotnik.
0:15 and other times he pisses on the moon
it hurts my soul that Sonic Chronicles the dark brotherhood isnt here. sure he wasnt the main bad guy. but he did pretend to join sonics gang then convinces them its best he stays behind on earth and when they come back he has the entire planet under his control with dystopian cities everywhere. immediately alerted when Sonic and the gang returns. though I guess we didnt get to see how dangerous he was here because the continuation never happened. which will always haunt me
eggman: makes a monster/machine hybrid that is able to destroy and/or eat time itself.
*below typical bad guy tier*
Sonic X is just the whole adventure timeline but they go into space. Sonic adventure 3 ahhh💀
3:33 hey I don’t know if this means anything to you but the reason of why sonic goes after Eggman and why he’s slow is because egg man replaced sonic normal shoes with his own designed slow shoes that have a chaos emerald in them and they look exactly like sonic shoes except for the fact that egg man put his face on the bottom of the shoe so sonic immediately was so he goes after him and gets the chaos emerald along the way😅
Why you look like Stay-Puft
Everyone always forgets Sonic Chronicles: Dark Brotherhood. Which I thought was an oddly enjoyable game
Just a reminder that in Sonic Chronicles, at the end, Eggman's winning and kills Sonic and his friends
8:51
I love how Eggman just casually has a Dreamcast in his EggMobile lol
As much as I have a bias towards certain games, I agree with the ranking. Nice job.