@@molassesman4066 yeah gameplay wise, but story wise he's not doing much, I haven't played the game in a while but I'm pretty sure that there are some runs where he doesn't appear at all. (minus westopolis) Sonic is simply NOT the focus of the game and it's fine because it's not his to begin with
3:15 My interpretation was always that Sonic was letting Tails win to help him gain confidence. I saw some others post that theory as well and it makes sense for Sonic's character
@@feiradragon7915 Only in Windy Valley, or when he literally can't go on due to level gimmicks only Tails can load in. For similar reasons he keeps teleporting if you get too far ahead.
Sonic's characterisation in Black Knight is especially fondly remembered. Odd they got omitted, especially with 3d blast arguably being more obscure these days.
The fact that Sonic 06 is so low on this list makes sense mephiles the dark is just powerful enough smart enough and evil enough that Sonic needs all his friends to win and even then he didn't quite win at the end because the timeline was erased
@@TheAzulmagia Fr. It would really give his story more girth if he learned that Iblis is sealed in Elise and this gave him more motivation to protect her from Eggman
Didn't quite win because the timeline was erased? I'd say he won so hard the big bad was erased from history. Game still sucks, Sonic still dies. Zero star emeralds awarded.
For the tier list purposes, I do think he makes it seem like a bad thing. Sure, in some of the games Sonic does it to the point of being incompetent, but not all the time.
How was Sonic careless for not stopping the missile in Adventure 1? He was in an entirely different place. How was he supposed to know? That doesn't make sense. And that happens before the Egg Viper boss, not after
@@Maubari They’re terrible writers. I don’t know why they made Sonic have such a corny personality now, including Tails too. It was obvious from the start of Sonic Adventure that Sonic will have a more mature storytelling and appeal to older audience. Sega was trying to emulate Mega Man X. By giving Sonic green eyes to match X’s. Shadow being based off Zero. Wished they stuck to that route.
@@Maubaribro they are not bad writers they just write differently they literally got death threats and attacks just because. I don't think they deserve all the hate
To be fair, you kinda have to be nitpicky when ranking the main protagonist of a series. Otherwise you get all high tiers because of the story revolving around the protagonist's experiences.
2:10 not to mention as Hyper Sonic if you press the jump button again while in mid-air it causes a flash that briefly covers the whole screen and kills every enemy on the screen. That is really powerful
Well mario is going to end up typical the majority, not a single worthless (at least if is luigi's mansion if he mentions it), and the elite would be new super mario bros because of mega mushroom and just using it to destroy all bosses including bowser and bowser jr., mario galaxy for defeating bowser's plans of conquering the universe and managing to save the universe, new super mario bros 2 because of the almighty golden mario that also destroys bosses and just a money maker that you would ended up with 99 lives without glitches, bowser's fury on fighting bowser's strongest yet form (i'm assuming since i haven't play it yet), mario odyssey because he can possess all creatures who doesn't have a hat or helmet, making him have more power thanks to his partner cappy, mario wonder is between typical and elite because the start of the game he saw what bowser was looking at, which is the wonder flower, mario tried to grab the wonder flower but bowser's reached it first, if mario grabs it, it just ruins bowser's plans for the very beginning and the game would not even happen which that would be funny. (If there was mention like RPG and tactics mario games there would be a bunch of elite because the main villains of those game are like stronger than bowser or their plans is even more evil than bowser that bowser denies it and fights against it (Because he wants to conquer the world, or if they mess with his minions or his son, bowser rages on the enemy)).
I actually kind of disagree with sonic 1 , to me at least his character was one of the main selling points of the game , the fact that he was "cool" compared to mario and other characters at the time , so personally I don't think that "typical hero" really fits him x) Really fun video btw !!!!
That’s actually a pretty good point, you’re right, the deliberate choice on his cooler personality doesn’t make him your average every day hero (like Mario). I was referring to typical within the parameters of the series, but you’re right, compared to other heroes he’s almost always ELITE!
6:55 It is not optional between who wins the battle when you choose characters and he also needs help to save the day. Don't think he deserves the elite.
I decided to try and start the game a few weeks ago because it was just lying around in my house and honestly, for my first sonic game, it's the most fun I've had in the while.
I like how Sonic relies on his friends more. Having more playable characters is great! Plus i just really love character dynamics, and I wish real life could be less lonely.
I was always under the impression that Tails' fight with eggman happens while Sonic is in Lost World and being dragged into the past by the spirit of Tikal... with Sonic getting back to present day as Eggman is fleeing to his secret base after his humiliating lose to Tails at Station Square.
In regards to SA1, Sonic had no way to know about the situation in Station Square because he was in Mystic Ruins following Tikal's spirit through Lost World. His fight with Eggman was a while after Tails's, not before
@@jajao4943 nah forces 2d stages are less then mid they're fucking chores with how shitty classic plays, at least generations classic has actual physics and WALK UP THE BEGINNING RAMP AT CHEMICAL PLANT
Sonic Rush truly defined what the Boost Formula is, while Sonic Advance 2 introduced the gradual boost mechanic. NGL I love me some technicalities, cause it can be both correct and incorrect! 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway, I’m glad to be here for another “how useful is” video!
*My ranking* Sonic 1 - typical hero (duh) Sonic 2 - elite Sonic CD - typical hero Sonic 3 & Knuckles - elite Sonic Adventure - sidekick (but hey, I'm not complaining; Sonic characters deserve to be treated equally)/elite (there, I said it!) Sonic Adventure 2 - sidekick/elite Sonic Advance (trilogy) - sidekick/elite Sonic X - elite (and I know that considering all the times Amy Rose, Chris Thorndyke, Eggman, Knuckles, Shadow and at one instance Tails and Cream raged at him in episode 42 for standing literally everyone he knew up, maybe I should've given him a "barely wins" score at best, but then that would be looking at the character in a very one-sided view because while some of them, save for Knuckles and Shadow, had a reason to feel disappointed in him, he always needs and wants to save the day... and the world, plus it's sad that Dark Sonic gets so much hate he's never been used since because in episode 67, considering what the Metarex could do to Tails and Cosmo, of course he had a right to turn into that form) Sonic Heroes - sidekick/elite Shadow the Hedgehog - barely wins Sonic Rush - elite Sonic Riders - barely wins (I think it makes sense to be a fan of Sonic in the 2000s while admitting that while debatably, he had his good qualities, especially in the end of the game where he would defeat the true villain alongside others and have a heartwarming banter with the Rogues, it was still a major dick move when he sucked Amy Rose into a tornado. It makes you wonder if either he really didn't mean to but still could have admitted what he did was wrong. Or if it’s because he hates women in general and got jealous and worried because he felt like either she would date someone else after all the times he stood her up because he needed to save lives or because he's worried that his besties Tails and Knuckles and new-at-that-time rivals like the Babylon Rogues would one-up him) Sonic '06 - barely wins (of course, it was Team Dark (Shadow, Rouge and Omega) and Team Rose (Amy Rose, Blaze the Cat and Silver the Hedgehog) that stole the show) Sonic Storybook series (and yes, I am counting Secret Rings & Black Knight and hope they make a prequel to prove his stories true) - elite (too bad not everyone believes his stories and thinks it’s his excuses to ditch his friends) Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity - sidekick (then again, like in Heroes, he did bring his besties along with him for the adventure)/elite Sonic Free Riders - barely wins/sidekick Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - typical hero/worthless (what can I say? This game sucks! At least episode 1 does! But in episode 2, while a debatable improvement, he alongside Tails would leave the captors they were supposed to rescue on Little Planet to die, something even Characters in Depth would point out) Sonic Colors - typical hero/worthless Sonic Generations (both Classic and Modern, mainly Modern) - typical hero/sidekick (think about it, gaming has a lot of silent protagonists and as for Modern Sonic, well, while it's mainly because of him why the day was saved, he didn't learn anything from Colours where all he could do was act like a jerk jock with his objectively bad jokes) Sonic Lost World - typical hero/worthless Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric - worthless (just like the game) 3DS Sonic Boom games - sidekick Sonic Mania - sidekick/elite Sonic Forces - typical hero/worthless (I was so close to giving him a "barely wins" score since technically, he's pretty much like in Generations, Classic or Modern, but besides that, he's at his worst here either way) Team Sonic Racing - sidekick/barely wins Sonic Frontiers - elite (in fact, here, he might be at his best, especially for a post-00s Sonic game) Sonic Superstars - barely wins/sidekick
honestly i feel like color's sonic a lot though no? he saved planet wisp along with all the wisps which were being used for a power supply for a big monster robot thing that was a fairly big threat to not only the wisps but the entirety of the earth itself. i don't think color's sonic is elite but I think he should be put a rank higher.
Also sonic isn't technically the only playable one in Unleashed. Chip is briefly playable for part of the boss battle. Chip is part of why Dark Gaia is gone. And Sonic's cocky behavior is part of why this happened.
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj I'm just saying he's rated a bit high compared to some other entries due to being the 'only playable character' but Chip does a lot against Dark Gaia. Then again I guess Sonic helped him remember and kept him safe in his vulnerable state. I was saying his cockiness led to this because of Eggman turning him into a werehog after Sonic paused and said a mocking remark. He seemed to let his guard down. I may be stretching a bit because maybe he was just showing mercy to a man who seemed to have no other way to fight back as he was cornered, though. Some other games had Sonic do the work while the others sat around. His rating in Forces is odd considering that the other characters fighting the clones does literally nothing for the plot. They weren't trying to attack Sonic while he was taking on the boss that made them all disappear, so they had no reason to distract them. Plus the fact that the clones DISAPPEAR right after Sonic defeats the boss. If they were actually defending something that'd be useful, but they aren't.
You dare say generations classic not good when forces classic is right there not making it up the beginning ramp at chemical plant and having a pathetic spindash? Generations spindash can traverse an entire section in the white void, generations has vibrant expansive backgrounds and multiple planes and dynamic camera angles, and good controls.
I don't understand why you gotta put down some games (like 3D Blast, 06 and Forces) before talking about Sonic's role in them, it's such a turnoff, it's not even about them being games I like or dislike, it's just distasteful at this point imo. Getting to the point immediately about 06's story (which, speaking of, it ain't even confusing, it's REALLY straight forward if you pay attention) instead of having to go through Mandatory 06 Slunder Number 347891 is such a better alternative...
- Sonic and the Black Knight? Sonic is pretty elite there and bested The Top 3 knights (Shadow , Knuckles and Blaze) - Sonic and the secret rings? - That RPG Sonic game?
I wonder how a Tierlist about rouge the bat would be, kind of an interesting situation since she was a really reoccurring character yet is very neutral in sides wiles also not being as significant to the plot as our other characters
I frel like you could have covered the Storybook sagas too, though I guess its not to figure out where they would be placed in, as the First Book Sonic basicaly does almost everything by himself with a couple power ups from his friend ginie, so Typical Hero. While second book Sonic needed the help of that universes(?) Shadow, Knuckles, Blaze and Amy, otherwise he would have lost but that's after defeating them (which bribgs them to gis side after Talk No Jutsu'ing them), defeating Evil King Arthur, after they help its up to him to defeat Merlin (who's also a girl? I blame Nasu for this), so Typical Hero. Same would be for Horizen DLC, as Amy, Tails and Knuckles become playable and have their own unique stuff that feels good and are needed to help Sonic with his Cyber Curroption, without that we wouldn't get the new DLC ending, so that might bring him down to Typical Hero, I think.
Not mainline, but I was shocked how much I liked Sonic and the Black Knight. Easily elite for me. Would love to see the spinoffs from you. Curious about Sonic Battle
Sonic in Generations is even above elite, it should had another tier just for himself, he is the ONLY one to not get caught by time eater somehow, then he just re-activate important zones, revives all of his friends, restoring everything to normal and don't forget there was 2 game characters and sonic was both of them, solid god tier and absolute savior
3:08 to be fair, Sonic runs way slower while Tails isn't looking, which can be interpreted as him trying to boost Tails' confidence up to take his role as a partner or even his own hero rather than a mere sidekick 6:20 also also, the main differences I'd say Sonic and Blaze have are: He is faster in general (knowing his title, he better), he has the Homing attack, that allows him to convert any and all momentum he doesn't want into forward momentum without a target, and some decent tricks after jumping off a spring (a slight boost upwards that can be reversed to boost diagonally in either direction and the roundhouse kick he's known for), while Blaze instead of that speed, can stay underwater 1.5 times longer than him, has a form of glide, that she can use to halt vertical momentum only, but also use to reach areas sonic would take slightly longer faster, and flashy tricks off a spring (a massive boost upwards, which can potentially skip whole areas, and an incredibly fast movement forward, that stops abruptly after a short distance, that with enough practice can be canceled to keep that momentum) tl;dr, Sonic is faster overall, Blaze has a higher skill ceiling to reach better times than him and lower skill floor, to allow people to mess up more given her tools. 7:42 Rush Adventure has it's ups and downs, while the gameplay as Sonic is relatively the same, I only saw Sonic's spring tricks getting some startup lag (and I think the roundhouse kick gains a little more height idk), but that's about it. 11:54 but some more equally than others *cough cough* Knuckles can fly and Sonic can launch himself forward like he had his usual speed *cough*
Uhh you’re missing Black Knight and Secret Rings.. but I already know you’re rankings for them because BK would be side kick considering Excalibur is the driving force of the story and Sonic’s just there to tag along and be his swordsman. Then for SR it be either elite or typical hero, he protects the genie girl and then fights the final boss no help and in a new rage form too! You def gotta re-edit this vid and add those two fasho!
Okay, what's so bad of him cracking jokes in Colors? The situation didn't demand him to be serious, he was just having fun on what seemed like a pretty regular advanture for him.
The thing about Sonic 06 tho is that SONIC is the one who convinces elise to blow out the flame... meaning he's also the reason none of it ever happens. So thats gotta go up a tier at least maybe
11:33 You're not the only one who wanted a hero to be in worthless in a certain game so badly. For me, I thought for a fact that I wanted Kirby (Squeak Squad) to be in worthless due to his naivety being at its worst thanks to going on a rampage over some piece of cake, such as blaming Dedede for taking it, and thinking that Meta Knight took it when he was making sure Dark Nebula didn't get released. But after Dark Nebula was released and possessed Daroach, Kirby did end up freeing Daroach defeat Dark Nebula at the very end, thus making me put him slightly higher, as he'll be in a ranking of barely wins.
I always thought Tails’ finale took place while Sonic was in the Lost World stage and flashback. Then, Eggman, humiliated by Tails, decides to retreat to his base, and Sonic sees the opportunity as an early Christmas present of potential robot wreckage.
Personally for Frontiers Sonic being more mature, I like to believe the events of forces and the IDW comics (mainly the metal virus arc) opened his eyes to the possibility that he needs to be more careful and serious, and as the IDW is confirmed to be canon, the metal virus must have been the final thing that caused Sonic to be as mature as he is in Frontiers, yes, he still has a sense of humour, but he's certainly more serious, similar to how serious he was during the metal virus arc, so that's my reasoning for Sonic being as mature has he is in Frontiers
The fact that he put Adventure Sonic right on the thumbnail so he would get clicks from angry Adventure fan boys is really doing a number on my morning…
Indeed, Sonic cut the cringy wisecracks for Frontiers and took the situation more seriousy - we can thank Ian Flynn for that one! I feel things took a slump whilst Pontac & Graff were treating Sonic and friends like a joke...
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj I don't follow the thread of that first sentence, but I'm happy that Sonic is having a better time in the most recent games, after the slump that was Forces (in which my own Avatar was my favourite character over all the established characters!)
@@DCLeadboot Yeah Forces sucked. You said he has cringe wisecracks and took the situation seriously. But those are one good and one bad but you didn't say but. How is the 2nd a bad thing?
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj What I said was that in Frontiers, Sonic joked less and took the situation a bit more seriously, and that was a good thing in the circumstances. If he's taking it seriously, we feel it more... as opposed to him joking all the time, like in some of the previous adventures. If Sonic doesn't care, why should we?
3:15 Tails is lying in this version of events. Because you are seeing the story through Tails perspective this is basically the little kid saying:”Oh yeah and when Eggman showed up, I talked mad shit to him and Sonic was like ‘yeah Tails, you’re awesome!’” The only things that are accurate is when Tails is by himself. I’m not making this up either as you can see Knuckles and Sonic both see Tails the exact same way in their crossover story. This is the case with most of the characters but Gamma and Sonic who are all telling the story from a biased perspective
Wait a minute, how is Sonic useless in some Sonic Games? He's the main character and he actually saved the world with the help of his friends. Okay, I guess he makes some terrible jokes in recent Sonic Games, but I'm sure he's not joking around as much anymore and takes things seriously.🦔💙⚡🌭
In defense of Sonic in Adventure, he ended up landing in the mystic ruins while Eggman ended up in station square so there wasn't anything he could do to stop the missile. Although him defeating eggman in his ending didn't matter since as far we know Eggman had no plans left at that point beyond trying to create a new one.
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I was expecting him to be the lowest tier in Shadow the Hedgehog. I was not surprised.
Why's that?
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 because he does basically nothing
And he can only fight normies due to player 2 limits @Gairsh98
@@molassesman4066 yeah gameplay wise, but story wise he's not doing much, I haven't played the game in a while but I'm pretty sure that there are some runs where he doesn't appear at all. (minus westopolis)
Sonic is simply NOT the focus of the game and it's fine because it's not his to begin with
3:15 My interpretation was always that Sonic was letting Tails win to help him gain confidence. I saw some others post that theory as well and it makes sense for Sonic's character
I’ve never seen that theory, but I like it a lot!
The fact that Sonic will stop and wait for Tails if he gets too far ahead adds to that theory.
@@feiradragon7915 Only in Windy Valley, or when he literally can't go on due to level gimmicks only Tails can load in. For similar reasons he keeps teleporting if you get too far ahead.
I’ll just have to assume that Sonic and the secret rings & Sonic and the black knight are automatic elite tiers
Sonic's characterisation in Black Knight is especially fondly remembered.
Odd they got omitted, especially with 3d blast arguably being more obscure these days.
Same for those two games aswell
No Dream Team either. Or any of the racing games.
The fact that Sonic 06 is so low on this list makes sense mephiles the dark is just powerful enough smart enough and evil enough that Sonic needs all his friends to win and even then he didn't quite win at the end because the timeline was erased
Sonic also never really finds out anything about Iblis or Mephiles because he's too busy saving Elise 500 times.
And he literally dies.
@@TheAzulmagia Fr. It would really give his story more girth if he learned that Iblis is sealed in Elise and this gave him more motivation to protect her from Eggman
Didn't quite win because the timeline was erased? I'd say he won so hard the big bad was erased from history.
Game still sucks, Sonic still dies. Zero star emeralds awarded.
@@CptJistuce The entire timeline is erased, not just mephiles, so Sonic and every other characters is also erased, so no one has won
*"Rely on his friends"*
Should he do it all himself???
Nope, relying on his friends is a good thing on the games, just not for this tier list
@@panetoneninjacanal2692ok
yes
@@panetoneninjacanal2692 that's what I'm basically implying.
For the tier list purposes, I do think he makes it seem like a bad thing. Sure, in some of the games Sonic does it to the point of being incompetent, but not all the time.
How was Sonic careless for not stopping the missile in Adventure 1? He was in an entirely different place. How was he supposed to know? That doesn't make sense. And that happens before the Egg Viper boss, not after
I agree. He didn't know about that at all. Tails just happens to be in Station Square when that happened.
Its great character development for Tails.
@@TheDayd111returns And then they fucked it up in Forces... Fuck Pontac and Graff.
@@Maubari They’re terrible writers. I don’t know why they made Sonic have such a corny personality now, including Tails too. It was obvious from the start of Sonic Adventure that Sonic will have a more mature storytelling and appeal to older audience. Sega was trying to emulate Mega Man X. By giving Sonic green eyes to match X’s. Shadow being based off Zero. Wished they stuck to that route.
@@Maubaribro they are not bad writers they just write differently they literally got death threats and attacks just because. I don't think they deserve all the hate
@@TheDayd111returns Dude, Sonic making jokes is the best version of Sonic. A "mature" and "serious" Sonic is just Shadow but blue.
What about Tails Adventures and Tails’s Sky Patrol?
Sonic: He Gone.
Knuckles: He Gone.
Tails: ELITE!!!
when did tails have anything to do with this
@@SonictheSpyHog1ye
@@SonictheSpyHog1 because their games in the franchise. Just saying.
Can you rank wario next
These two are not mainline
The Sonic Heroes ranking sounds like it's from, someone who didn't fight Metal Madness.
@@foodking9522 correct!
@@jeremymklinger He fought Metal Overlord though. It’s just Metal Madness, but with wings
We got sonic before meta knight 💀
And gta 6
How useless is meta knight in every sonic game
I don't see the problem.
Meta Knight has only 2 tiers: Elite and He Gone.
@@CaptHayfeverHe’s just kinda ok in Epic Yarn.
I just thought Sonic always elite, because he's the protagonist of every game. And this is his franchise but now I'm intrigued.
Sonic is the protagonist but he's essential the role of a shonen protagonist
He needs his friends help
Imagine ranking based on " oh he has help going super" or " there's multiple character" or whatever
To be fair, you kinda have to be nitpicky when ranking the main protagonist of a series. Otherwise you get all high tiers because of the story revolving around the protagonist's experiences.
0:36 I never liked how “lifeless” sonic looked. Like he can’t stop thinking about why he’s purple instead of blue.
Thats not purple, thats anpther shade of blue
2:46 Someone finally said it.
2:10 not to mention as Hyper Sonic if you press the jump button again while in mid-air it causes a flash that briefly covers the whole screen and kills every enemy on the screen. That is really powerful
I always put that attack as the predecessor of the homing attack.
How useless Kamek is in every Mario game.
We need mario if we got sonic
Luigi’s Mansion Games: Worthless
And Kirby and Link.
Well mario is going to end up typical the majority, not a single worthless (at least if is luigi's mansion if he mentions it), and the elite would be new super mario bros because of mega mushroom and just using it to destroy all bosses including bowser and bowser jr., mario galaxy for defeating bowser's plans of conquering the universe and managing to save the universe, new super mario bros 2 because of the almighty golden mario that also destroys bosses and just a money maker that you would ended up with 99 lives without glitches, bowser's fury on fighting bowser's strongest yet form (i'm assuming since i haven't play it yet), mario odyssey because he can possess all creatures who doesn't have a hat or helmet, making him have more power thanks to his partner cappy, mario wonder is between typical and elite because the start of the game he saw what bowser was looking at, which is the wonder flower, mario tried to grab the wonder flower but bowser's reached it first, if mario grabs it, it just ruins bowser's plans for the very beginning and the game would not even happen which that would be funny. (If there was mention like RPG and tactics mario games there would be a bunch of elite because the main villains of those game are like stronger than bowser or their plans is even more evil than bowser that bowser denies it and fights against it (Because he wants to conquer the world, or if they mess with his minions or his son, bowser rages on the enemy)).
Super Princess Peach: Man in distress
He'd be worthless in spp and lm games
Ranking Mania Sonic as a sidekick and failing to mention the fact he single handedly saves everyone with the Egg Reverie true ending is mad.
No Sonic and the Secret Rings an Sonic and the Black Knight? Forgotten or not worth mention?
I dont think it counts as mainline
@@knoxnotcool3884 it's main line it was creation by sonic team and on the sonic twitter account they said it was main line
He is absolutely elite in both games by default.
Also sonic battle
I actually kind of disagree with sonic 1 , to me at least his character was one of the main selling points of the game , the fact that he was "cool" compared to mario and other characters at the time , so personally I don't think that "typical hero" really fits him x)
Really fun video btw !!!!
That’s actually a pretty good point, you’re right, the deliberate choice on his cooler personality doesn’t make him your average every day hero (like Mario). I was referring to typical within the parameters of the series, but you’re right, compared to other heroes he’s almost always ELITE!
8:54 THE ONE PIIEEECE! THE ONE PIECE IS REEAAAAL!!
Can we get much higher 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Love how he just ignores the fact that his friends help him because he's fighting literal gods
11:26 fallen kingdom ahh fall 💀💀💀
lmao
I’ve been waiting for you to do stuff like this
(Also please do how useless Mario is in every game)
At the sacrifice of originality, now let's see Mario ranked in every Mario game.
Almost impossible
6:55 It is not optional between who wins the battle when you choose characters and he also needs help to save the day. Don't think he deserves the elite.
^
3:35
He's not careless, he wanted to leave tales to stop the situation so he could live up to his full potential
Sonic and the Secret Rings & Black Knight:
Are we a joke to you?
I mean it makes sense since it was made by Sonic team but it's not Canon or mentioned in the sonic series
Secret rings was mentioned in IDW alongside Werehog @@MfuwoMathebula-d9f
@@ddlcfan2763 i don't know how canon the IDW comics are
@@om.i IDW is canon
Man I forgot about Sonic Rush! I had that years ago on my DS growing up😂 I should find it and play through again
I decided to try and start the game a few weeks ago because it was just lying around in my house and honestly, for my first sonic game, it's the most fun I've had in the while.
I like how Sonic relies on his friends more. Having more playable characters is great! Plus i just really love character dynamics, and I wish real life could be less lonely.
Ok so should sonic have saved the earth from being destroyed all by himself?? Just bc he needs some help doesn’t make him worthless.
No it does
Sonics worthless
Sonic has 0 AURA
He sucks if he needs help
I was always under the impression that Tails' fight with eggman happens while Sonic is in Lost World and being dragged into the past by the spirit of Tikal... with Sonic getting back to present day as Eggman is fleeing to his secret base after his humiliating lose to Tails at Station Square.
We’ve been waiting for this one
He probably deserves F tier for Sonic 06, since all he does is allow the princess to get captured multiple times and then literally dies.
"I Hate Sonic Forces"
- Jeremy Klinger Every time "Sonic Forces" is mentioned in Every Ranking Useless Video.
In regards to SA1, Sonic had no way to know about the situation in Station Square because he was in Mystic Ruins following Tikal's spirit through Lost World. His fight with Eggman was a while after Tails's, not before
"Not very good 2D levels"
You better be mixing up Generations with Forces...
Exactly, no way he actually believes that.
He is right, the classic stages in both games are really mid
@@jajao4943 nah forces 2d stages are less then mid they're fucking chores with how shitty classic plays, at least generations classic has actual physics and WALK UP THE BEGINNING RAMP AT CHEMICAL PLANT
I finished binge watching this series yesterday and this couldn't come out at more of a perfect timing
Every Other Sonic Game: FRICK YEAH SONIC!!!!
*shadow 05 appears*
Shadow 05: NO WAIT FRICK YEAH SHADOW!!!!
Great video! Could you do Blaze next?
Sonic Rush truly defined what the Boost Formula is, while Sonic Advance 2 introduced the gradual boost mechanic. NGL I love me some technicalities, cause it can be both correct and incorrect! 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway, I’m glad to be here for another “how useful is” video!
Can you make a video of every single sonic 3 movie toys? I really love your mario movie review 🥺
I was actually thinking about that! Once a majority of them are out and readily available I’ll definitely try and scoop em all up!
YAYYYYYY😄
*My ranking*
Sonic 1 - typical hero (duh)
Sonic 2 - elite
Sonic CD - typical hero
Sonic 3 & Knuckles - elite
Sonic Adventure - sidekick (but hey, I'm not complaining; Sonic characters deserve to be treated equally)/elite (there, I said it!)
Sonic Adventure 2 - sidekick/elite
Sonic Advance (trilogy) - sidekick/elite
Sonic X - elite (and I know that considering all the times Amy Rose, Chris Thorndyke, Eggman, Knuckles, Shadow and at one instance Tails and Cream raged at him in episode 42 for standing literally everyone he knew up, maybe I should've given him a "barely wins" score at best, but then that would be looking at the character in a very one-sided view because while some of them, save for Knuckles and Shadow, had a reason to feel disappointed in him, he always needs and wants to save the day... and the world, plus it's sad that Dark Sonic gets so much hate he's never been used since because in episode 67, considering what the Metarex could do to Tails and Cosmo, of course he had a right to turn into that form)
Sonic Heroes - sidekick/elite
Shadow the Hedgehog - barely wins
Sonic Rush - elite
Sonic Riders - barely wins (I think it makes sense to be a fan of Sonic in the 2000s while admitting that while debatably, he had his good qualities, especially in the end of the game where he would defeat the true villain alongside others and have a heartwarming banter with the Rogues, it was still a major dick move when he sucked Amy Rose into a tornado. It makes you wonder if either he really didn't mean to but still could have admitted what he did was wrong. Or if it’s because he hates women in general and got jealous and worried because he felt like either she would date someone else after all the times he stood her up because he needed to save lives or because he's worried that his besties Tails and Knuckles and new-at-that-time rivals like the Babylon Rogues would one-up him)
Sonic '06 - barely wins (of course, it was Team Dark (Shadow, Rouge and Omega) and Team Rose (Amy Rose, Blaze the Cat and Silver the Hedgehog) that stole the show)
Sonic Storybook series (and yes, I am counting Secret Rings & Black Knight and hope they make a prequel to prove his stories true) - elite (too bad not everyone believes his stories and thinks it’s his excuses to ditch his friends)
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity - sidekick (then again, like in Heroes, he did bring his besties along with him for the adventure)/elite
Sonic Free Riders - barely wins/sidekick
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - typical hero/worthless (what can I say? This game sucks! At least episode 1 does! But in episode 2, while a debatable improvement, he alongside Tails would leave the captors they were supposed to rescue on Little Planet to die, something even Characters in Depth would point out)
Sonic Colors - typical hero/worthless
Sonic Generations (both Classic and Modern, mainly Modern) - typical hero/sidekick (think about it, gaming has a lot of silent protagonists and as for Modern Sonic, well, while it's mainly because of him why the day was saved, he didn't learn anything from Colours where all he could do was act like a jerk jock with his objectively bad jokes)
Sonic Lost World - typical hero/worthless
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric - worthless (just like the game)
3DS Sonic Boom games - sidekick
Sonic Mania - sidekick/elite
Sonic Forces - typical hero/worthless (I was so close to giving him a "barely wins" score since technically, he's pretty much like in Generations, Classic or Modern, but besides that, he's at his worst here either way)
Team Sonic Racing - sidekick/barely wins
Sonic Frontiers - elite (in fact, here, he might be at his best, especially for a post-00s Sonic game)
Sonic Superstars - barely wins/sidekick
honestly i feel like color's sonic a lot though no? he saved planet wisp along with all the wisps which were being used for a power supply for a big monster robot thing that was a fairly big threat to not only the wisps but the entirety of the earth itself. i don't think color's sonic is elite but I think he should be put a rank higher.
6:16 I don’t think it’s fair to put Sonic in worthless when he does just as much as everybody else that got put in barely does anything
It's because shadow does everything in the game, the rest of the characters are worthless
For sonic rush, maybe I'm trippin but isn't it blaze that actually won against sonic ? Since she get the last sol emerald afterward ?
Dude i have been binging these kinds of videos all day 😭
10:24 tf you mean "not very good 2d levels", those were the best part imo😂
Make a video about how useless is Ridley in the Metroid series please!
Sonic will always be the goat
The *hedgehog
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@@___________0Z0XYeah we don’t want confusion with a certain Fast food chain that is NOT the goat.
Blud hasn't heard about shadow the hedgehog
Also sonic isn't technically the only playable one in Unleashed. Chip is briefly playable for part of the boss battle. Chip is part of why Dark Gaia is gone. And Sonic's cocky behavior is part of why this happened.
I don't see how his cocky behaviour lead him to stand there
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj I'm just saying he's rated a bit high compared to some other entries due to being the 'only playable character' but Chip does a lot against Dark Gaia. Then again I guess Sonic helped him remember and kept him safe in his vulnerable state. I was saying his cockiness led to this because of Eggman turning him into a werehog after Sonic paused and said a mocking remark. He seemed to let his guard down. I may be stretching a bit because maybe he was just showing mercy to a man who seemed to have no other way to fight back as he was cornered, though. Some other games had Sonic do the work while the others sat around. His rating in Forces is odd considering that the other characters fighting the clones does literally nothing for the plot. They weren't trying to attack Sonic while he was taking on the boss that made them all disappear, so they had no reason to distract them. Plus the fact that the clones DISAPPEAR right after Sonic defeats the boss. If they were actually defending something that'd be useful, but they aren't.
12:13 he also can do the s3&k insta sheild and the scd boost if you get enough medalions
There’s medallions???
@@Potatogod3120 if you do the special stages in the check points
10:21 did I hear that right?? I thought everybody liked the classic Sonic levels
Sonic adventure was elite gameplay. So many good memories from that game
You dare say generations classic not good when forces classic is right there not making it up the beginning ramp at chemical plant and having a pathetic spindash? Generations spindash can traverse an entire section in the white void, generations has vibrant expansive backgrounds and multiple planes and dynamic camera angles, and good controls.
I don't understand why you gotta put down some games (like 3D Blast, 06 and Forces) before talking about Sonic's role in them, it's such a turnoff, it's not even about them being games I like or dislike, it's just distasteful at this point imo. Getting to the point immediately about 06's story (which, speaking of, it ain't even confusing, it's REALLY straight forward if you pay attention) instead of having to go through Mandatory 06 Slunder Number 347891 is such a better alternative...
The Nintendo Version: How Worthless Is Mario In Every Mario Game?
That would be VERY DIFFICULT!!!
However, him being the worst character in Smash Brawl and 3D World are the easiest “Barely Gets It Done” tier.
It’s sort of odd that you rank the main character of a game 💀 lol but creative. Pls do Mario next.
- Sonic and the Black Knight? Sonic is pretty elite there and bested The Top 3 knights (Shadow , Knuckles and Blaze)
- Sonic and the secret rings?
- That RPG Sonic game?
Now we got the Blu blue himself. Lol
Blue Blur I meant. Lol
I just started watching 2 days ago and I’m invested!
@@Bacon_83 Thanks for your support! 🙏
I wonder how a Tierlist about rouge the bat would be, kind of an interesting situation since she was a really reoccurring character yet is very neutral in sides wiles also not being as significant to the plot as our other characters
I frel like you could have covered the Storybook sagas too, though I guess its not to figure out where they would be placed in, as the First Book Sonic basicaly does almost everything by himself with a couple power ups from his friend ginie, so Typical Hero.
While second book Sonic needed the help of that universes(?) Shadow, Knuckles, Blaze and Amy, otherwise he would have lost but that's after defeating them (which bribgs them to gis side after Talk No Jutsu'ing them), defeating Evil King Arthur, after they help its up to him to defeat Merlin (who's also a girl? I blame Nasu for this), so Typical Hero.
Same would be for Horizen DLC, as Amy, Tails and Knuckles become playable and have their own unique stuff that feels good and are needed to help Sonic with his Cyber Curroption, without that we wouldn't get the new DLC ending, so that might bring him down to Typical Hero, I think.
I literary got a sonic ad in while watching this video.
Gonna be honest, I think we can all agree that Ian Flynn’s writing might turn the Sonic series around in a good way.
Gives mr needle mouse had me cackling 😂😂😂😂
Not mainline, but I was shocked how much I liked Sonic and the Black Knight. Easily elite for me. Would love to see the spinoffs from you. Curious about Sonic Battle
You should also rank Mario in all the mainline Mario game and rank him from worthless to Elite
10:31 no way you just hit us with the advanced warfare supply drop ELITE 💀
1:33 That’s bullcrap
why?
@@Broly-TheLegendarySuperSaiyan did you even play sonic cd
Yeah, for a bit. Why?
@@Broly-TheLegendarySuperSaiyanbecause
@@ShadowTheBiggestEdgelord I mean, I Did 99% Of the game
The biggest surprise was that there was no “Real Quick” after the “Aaaaand there you have it” lmaoo
Awesome video 😮
Sonic in Generations is even above elite, it should had another tier just for himself, he is the ONLY one to not get caught by time eater somehow, then he just re-activate important zones, revives all of his friends, restoring everything to normal and don't forget there was 2 game characters and sonic was both of them, solid god tier and absolute savior
that should have been covered in the video bruh. All bro said was that the gameplay was good and the characters did nothing. I do agree tho.
For a franchise called “Sonic the Hedgehog” he sure does rely on others to do all the heavy lifting.
is he suppose to do everything himself?
@@night6724 Ikr lol. What was the comment's message here? How dare your friends not be useless garbage that drag you down or do nothing every game? 😂
@@night6724 It's not even necessarily true too, even in the earlier games
7:38 in all fairness Solaris is god, so I don’t think 1 super form can stop him
1 super form can stop him, inwhatevertimelineyourin.
Just not 3 timelines
2:08 hyper sonic isn’t faster. The after images make him feel faster, but he’s the same speed as super sonic
His sort of homing attack makes him very fast though. Speaking of which, this might cannonically explain how he learned to do the homing attack.
Can you do meta knight next time pls? Also great video as always
He was gone in 2 games in Tails’ two games
The random "elite" from advanced warfare drops got me
Eggman's not making the aliens his slaves in Colors. He's using them as a power source.
3:08 to be fair, Sonic runs way slower while Tails isn't looking, which can be interpreted as him trying to boost Tails' confidence up to take his role as a partner or even his own hero rather than a mere sidekick
6:20 also also, the main differences I'd say Sonic and Blaze have are:
He is faster in general (knowing his title, he better), he has the Homing attack, that allows him to convert any and all momentum he doesn't want into forward momentum without a target, and some decent tricks after jumping off a spring (a slight boost upwards that can be reversed to boost diagonally in either direction and the roundhouse kick he's known for),
while Blaze instead of that speed, can stay underwater 1.5 times longer than him, has a form of glide, that she can use to halt vertical momentum only, but also use to reach areas sonic would take slightly longer faster, and flashy tricks off a spring (a massive boost upwards, which can potentially skip whole areas, and an incredibly fast movement forward, that stops abruptly after a short distance, that with enough practice can be canceled to keep that momentum)
tl;dr, Sonic is faster overall, Blaze has a higher skill ceiling to reach better times than him and lower skill floor, to allow people to mess up more given her tools.
7:42 Rush Adventure has it's ups and downs, while the gameplay as Sonic is relatively the same, I only saw Sonic's spring tricks getting some startup lag (and I think the roundhouse kick gains a little more height idk), but that's about it.
11:54 but some more equally than others *cough cough* Knuckles can fly and Sonic can launch himself forward like he had his usual speed *cough*
Uhh you’re missing Black Knight and Secret Rings.. but I already know you’re rankings for them because BK would be side kick considering Excalibur is the driving force of the story and Sonic’s just there to tag along and be his swordsman. Then for SR it be either elite or typical hero, he protects the genie girl and then fights the final boss no help and in a new rage form too! You def gotta re-edit this vid and add those two fasho!
I have noticed that Sonic and the seven rings and Black Knight are omitted from a lot of these lists. (Sonic, Tails, Knuckle, Amy, EggMan and Shadow).
Okay, what's so bad of him cracking jokes in Colors? The situation didn't demand him to be serious, he was just having fun on what seemed like a pretty regular advanture for him.
FR BRUH
Me looking at the title when I see it on my For You Page: 😡
Me after actually watching the video: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Between 06 and the Rivals games, it’s really funny that Sonic was just having an alright time while Shadow and Silver were dealing with the real plot
Do Mario next
The thing about Sonic 06 tho is that SONIC is the one who convinces elise to blow out the flame... meaning he's also the reason none of it ever happens. So thats gotta go up a tier at least maybe
Will there be a sonic rivals 3?
Can you make a video about sonic rivals 1 & 2 how it got forgotten or something.
11:33 You're not the only one who wanted a hero to be in worthless in a certain game so badly. For me, I thought for a fact that I wanted Kirby (Squeak Squad) to be in worthless due to his naivety being at its worst thanks to going on a rampage over some piece of cake, such as blaming Dedede for taking it, and thinking that Meta Knight took it when he was making sure Dark Nebula didn't get released. But after Dark Nebula was released and possessed Daroach, Kirby did end up freeing Daroach defeat Dark Nebula at the very end, thus making me put him slightly higher, as he'll be in a ranking of barely wins.
I always thought Tails’ finale took place while Sonic was in the Lost World stage and flashback. Then, Eggman, humiliated by Tails, decides to retreat to his base, and Sonic sees the opportunity as an early Christmas present of potential robot wreckage.
Personally for Frontiers Sonic being more mature, I like to believe the events of forces and the IDW comics (mainly the metal virus arc) opened his eyes to the possibility that he needs to be more careful and serious, and as the IDW is confirmed to be canon, the metal virus must have been the final thing that caused Sonic to be as mature as he is in Frontiers, yes, he still has a sense of humour, but he's certainly more serious, similar to how serious he was during the metal virus arc, so that's my reasoning for Sonic being as mature has he is in Frontiers
4:26
There's a little known youtuber that explains exactly that. His name's Dunkey. Idk if you've heard of him
The fact that he put Adventure Sonic right on the thumbnail so he would get clicks from angry Adventure fan boys is really doing a number on my morning…
I can only trust this mission to you. Can you please make tear list for sonic EXC who is strongest, please😢
Indeed, Sonic cut the cringy wisecracks for Frontiers and took the situation more seriousy - we can thank Ian Flynn for that one! I feel things took a slump whilst Pontac & Graff were treating Sonic and friends like a joke...
You said a bad thing then a good thing but was it bad to you? Are you happy or angry? And I don't think they were cringy
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj
I don't follow the thread of that first sentence, but I'm happy that Sonic is having a better time in the most recent games, after the slump that was Forces (in which my own Avatar was my favourite character over all the established characters!)
@@DCLeadboot Yeah Forces sucked. You said he has cringe wisecracks and took the situation seriously. But those are one good and one bad but you didn't say but. How is the 2nd a bad thing?
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj What I said was that in Frontiers, Sonic joked less and took the situation a bit more seriously, and that was a good thing in the circumstances. If he's taking it seriously, we feel it more... as opposed to him joking all the time, like in some of the previous adventures. If Sonic doesn't care, why should we?
3:15 Tails is lying in this version of events. Because you are seeing the story through Tails perspective this is basically the little kid saying:”Oh yeah and when Eggman showed up, I talked mad shit to him and Sonic was like ‘yeah Tails, you’re awesome!’”
The only things that are accurate is when Tails is by himself.
I’m not making this up either as you can see Knuckles and Sonic both see Tails the exact same way in their crossover story.
This is the case with most of the characters but Gamma and Sonic who are all telling the story from a biased perspective
I'm surprised you didn't include the Final Horizon DLC for Frontiers in this.
8:55 THE ONE PEACE IS REALLLL
Obligatory “You forgot Sonic battle” comment
Wait a minute, how is Sonic useless in some Sonic Games? He's the main character and he actually saved the world with the help of his friends. Okay, I guess he makes some terrible jokes in recent Sonic Games, but I'm sure he's not joking around as much anymore and takes things seriously.🦔💙⚡🌭
I’m assuming you made this comment before watching the video
@@dbzfan6900 Uhhhh, yes I did. Please don't judge me.😬
In defense of Sonic in Adventure, he ended up landing in the mystic ruins while Eggman ended up in station square so there wasn't anything he could do to stop the missile. Although him defeating eggman in his ending didn't matter since as far we know Eggman had no plans left at that point beyond trying to create a new one.