Personal Protection: .357 Sig Ammunition Selection

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Paul tests several different types of 357 sig ammo to determine the best for personal protection.
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Комментарии • 1,3 тыс.

  • @DementedDoom
    @DementedDoom 4 года назад +75

    Just a small nitpick, but you said "Sig model 31" at around 7:30 mark.

    • @PaulHarrell
      @PaulHarrell  4 года назад +121

      That's part of the speech impediment I mention. usually The crew and I catch these kinds of mistakes. This one got by us.

    • @nickr4015
      @nickr4015 4 года назад +4

      @@PaulHarrell is the recoil significantly more with .357 sig than .40S&W? I recall in the 9mm vs .40 video you said the degree of recoil of those two, while not the same, was not significantly different. Thank you.

    • @PaulHarrell
      @PaulHarrell  4 года назад +37

      @@nickr4015 The recoils isn't much different, but the .357 Sig has a much sharper report.

    • @ericw5389
      @ericw5389 4 года назад +4

      @@PaulHarrell This brings up an important issue: how good an idea is it to use a loudly-reporting round for self-defense particularly when you're going to be indoors, maybe even retreated to a small, barricaded room/bathroom with your 357sig pointed at the door. Do you go into indoor environs with ear plugs in your ears already? What state will your ears and those of others near you be if you start firing these high pressure rounds?

    • @Expertly_Unprofessional
      @Expertly_Unprofessional 2 года назад +1

      @@ericw5389 Good point

  • @SnazzyZubloids
    @SnazzyZubloids 4 года назад +605

    My girlfriend is now trained to know that when the Paul intro music starts up, I'm unavailable for the next 10-30 minutes.

  • @AllanFolm
    @AllanFolm 4 года назад +397

    "For the rest of us, let's shoot the chronograph".
    Chronograph: "Oh Sh.."

    • @thomaswashburn3513
      @thomaswashburn3513 4 года назад +9

      Allan Folmersen , I actually shot one lol

    • @Leverguns50
      @Leverguns50 4 года назад +4

      He did say that

    • @sweet65mustang
      @sweet65mustang 4 года назад +5

      @@thomaswashburn3513 I've hit the rods that hold the hoods.

    • @thomaswashburn3513
      @thomaswashburn3513 4 года назад +5

      Michael Lindquist , I hit right in the middle of the LED screen. Wish I had a camera on... I could have made it funny, but I was so pissed at the time.

    • @sweet65mustang
      @sweet65mustang 4 года назад +3

      @@thomaswashburn3513 ok now I have to ask, what did you shoot it with?

  • @ferna2294
    @ferna2294 4 года назад +237

    1530 fps out of a standard pistol barrel. God bless 357 sig.

    • @BillMcGirr
      @BillMcGirr 4 года назад +7

      ferna2294
      I wish he would have shown the case head and primer for signs of pressure.
      I have a M&P in 357 sig...
      But I’m slightly petrified to run the Underwood and Buffalo bore through it.🙄👍

    • @ferna2294
      @ferna2294 4 года назад +5

      @@BillMcGirr Oh, no doubt about it. It´s an expensive round and the pressures that it handles makes it even more expensive. I have read about that. A lot of users have concerns about this round in terms of longevity of the barrel.

    • @angusyoung1215
      @angusyoung1215 4 года назад

      he already has

    • @BillMcGirr
      @BillMcGirr 4 года назад +1

      ferna2294
      For sure...
      And while most experts agree that manufacturers have watered down the round from the performance it was designed to deliver.
      I hand load so price isn’t a factor.
      But I should really get a chronograph and work my way up looking for pressure signs.
      Plus I can only really find Winchester white box locally for a reasonable price.
      Would have been nice to see Paul test that as well.👍

    • @ferna2294
      @ferna2294 4 года назад +8

      @@BillMcGirr That´s right. It depends on your preferences. For example 10mm auto has been extremely watered down, but there are heavier duty barrels that can withstand Buffalo Bore´s hottest loads, and the hottest handloads you can get. However, I assume they are more expensive.

  • @sjbr101
    @sjbr101 4 года назад +129

    I'm British and as such have never even seen a handgun being fired in person. however due to paul and watching his channel I now understand more about bullet velocity, grain, calibre and what a hollow point is. Oh and I know what a meat target is. 😃

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 4 года назад +11

      Get a gun. It is fun, even with the extremely stilted way you can enjoy them in the UK. The more people that try it, the more "normal" it seems. I can say that very rigid ranges will give you a limited perspective on practical use, but some is better than none.

    • @bly4233
      @bly4233 4 года назад +17

      OR, move here and git yerself sum FREEDOM.

    • @brandxmuddy3614
      @brandxmuddy3614 4 года назад +12

      COME GET SOME GOD, GUNS AND GLORY! COME TO AMERICA AND BE FREE TO DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT (unless you live in a HOA) 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @borisshevchenco1314
      @borisshevchenco1314 3 года назад +19

      I ran into a Brit that was hiking on the Appalachian trail here in the US. Like you, he never seen or handled a handgun in person. I changed that! I let him fire my Glock. He was thrilled and kept the spent shell casing as a souvenir.

    • @ssoos7701
      @ssoos7701 3 года назад +8

      That's awesome simon! If you ever make it to United States and find yourself in Ohio you're welcome to come to our range and shoot all you want.

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz 4 года назад +163

    Circa 1:45 - I would never fast forward to the part where you are standing next to the chart... I like watching the chronograph testing 💯

    • @mikesdname1
      @mikesdname1 4 года назад +7

      agree. I like watching his recoil control

    • @WhoWouldWantThisName
      @WhoWouldWantThisName 4 года назад +12

      I consider it blasphemy to fast forward through ANY part of a Paul Harrell video,,,, but you be the judge.

    • @UncleWermus
      @UncleWermus 4 года назад +7

      It's cool to see how much the speed can vary shot to shot instead of just the average IMO

    • @foxsquirrel3038
      @foxsquirrel3038 4 года назад +6

      Any one else try and predecit the velocities once Paul Calls out the first few?

    • @Gooch072
      @Gooch072 4 года назад +3

      I don't like watching the chronograph test, but if Paul is going to put in the work, I am going to watch, least I can do. Besides, you never know when he will throw a dry joke in there, and I wouldn't wanna miss it.

  • @SierraBravo347
    @SierraBravo347 4 года назад +300

    Mr. Wilson single handedly has brought the .357sig back from the "who cares" file......

    • @cristianespinal9917
      @cristianespinal9917 4 года назад +33

      Eh. I think most people will look at the price of ammo and stick to their 9mm and people looking for the hottest in bear-blasting, polymer handgunnery will stick to the 10mm. I love the cartridge though. Just gotta get some reloading dies so I can afford to shoot it as much as I'd like.

    • @SierraBravo347
      @SierraBravo347 4 года назад +29

      @@cristianespinal9917 That would be the most Cost Effective way, .357sig doesn't come cheap. As far as Glock goes, I like the ability to change calibers from .40s&w to .357sig with the change of a barrel tho. That's pretty Versatile!

    • @SierraBravo347
      @SierraBravo347 4 года назад

      @Ethan Mac Actually I did, and although it's an impressive round, it's really not very practical to carry. There are other calibers that will accomplish the same result without the harshness exuded on the guns frame.

    • @justin_ogre
      @justin_ogre 4 года назад +7

      @@cristianespinal9917 But they don't make a compact 10mm. They have a subcompact, that I don't want to fool with. I'll keep my g32 for now.

    • @TreeTop1947
      @TreeTop1947 4 года назад +21

      While I do agree with you, Shane, I think what Mr. Wilson's incredible shot *should have* reminded us of is the importance of regular, diligent, practice and the old adage that bullet placement trumps everything else (at least everything else within reason, perfect bullet placement with a pellet pistol may not have resulted in the same outcome, obviously). Semper Fi, TreeTop

  • @MegaSk8bros
    @MegaSk8bros 4 года назад +152

    The Texas security team member in the church that took down the suspect used a SiG229 in .357sig 👏💪🏼💯

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 4 года назад +18

      Hence the video.

    • @MegaSk8bros
      @MegaSk8bros 4 года назад +2

      Donovan Chilton 👏👏👏

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 года назад +7

      The guy the press cravenly referred to as "the church shooter"?

    • @Daniel-qr1zf
      @Daniel-qr1zf 4 года назад +12

      I'm a huge fan of the .357 Sig round, and when I carry semi-auto, it's in a G32. Having said that, pretty much ANY round to the grape will do.

    • @swaghauler8334
      @swaghauler8334 4 года назад +8

      I carried one on duty for 20 years and still carry it now. I still use ACTUAL .357 SIG ammo though, not the weak stuff that passes for it today.

  • @freshfowler1398
    @freshfowler1398 4 года назад +82

    357sig making a comeback!!👌👍🙏🇺🇸

    • @mysterymeat586
      @mysterymeat586 4 года назад +1

      I hope it grows in popularity. It would have to have diminished in order to make a statement of a possible comeback. It looks to me more like it reached a point where it had a small cult following, not growing or shrinking. I have a pair of Sig 239s in 357 and my Glock 22 was what made me a fan back in the mid 90s with a BarSto 357 sig barrel. Depending on my mood I also carry one of my 10mms instead. These two rounds just seem to shoot better in my hands.

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 4 года назад +1

      really? I get similar results with my Tokarev TT33.....

    • @mysterymeat586
      @mysterymeat586 4 года назад

      A tokarev in 357 Sig? Wow. Or is it 10mm?

    • @Hjerte_Verke
      @Hjerte_Verke 4 года назад

      He's talking about 7.62x25mm in the Tok. A nice, fast moving bottleneck pistol cartridge.

    • @mysterymeat586
      @mysterymeat586 4 года назад

      Hjerte Verke, I know, I was trying to be funny, but it fell flat kinda. I know nothing about a Tokarev and thanks to you I learned it's a bottleneck. What is the rim diameter?

  • @TheCharlesAtoz
    @TheCharlesAtoz 4 года назад +71

    Let’s help Paul’s channel grow! 500K before the end of 2020...

    • @mrpibb7781
      @mrpibb7781 4 года назад +7

      Showed the Hyper Ammo video to my wife and she wont stop making Ticondaaaas references. I think we got this. Keep spreading the word and fight for 2A!

  • @chouyi007
    @chouyi007 4 года назад +114

    God bless Jack Wilson, mostly for his heroism, but also because he finally gave us long-suffering .357 Sig-carriers some attention!

    • @chouyi007
      @chouyi007 4 года назад +8

      @carpe diem I heartily agree, I mean more all the criticism and nonsense we hear from all the caliber cucks out there who parrot those innane chants of ".357 Sig is just a +P 9mm," or "there is no difference in effectiveness between the common handgun calibers," or "surgeons can't tell the difference in caliber by the wound," all of which are ridiculous.
      The .357 Sig DOES make a wider and deeper wound channel, and I have shot enough deer with .357 Sig and .45 GAP (230gr Gold Dot handloads at 890fps), and seen enough shot with 9mm to know that neither the 9mm nor .45 are in the same league as the .357 Sig, as far as wound channel, speed of incapacitation, and general trauma.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 года назад +2

      @@chouyi007 I think 9mm Luger is a good cartridge, but there's absolutely some appeals in some of its competitors.

    • @A.Clifton
      @A.Clifton 4 года назад +6

      If you ever want to piss everyone around you off, get the SIG 1911 Fastback Nightmare in 357 and watch every tacticool mall ninja and fudd have an aneurysm.

    • @patrick6935
      @patrick6935 4 года назад +2

      Joseph Putnam Are you an obscure cartridge fan? I haven’t heard anyone mention .45 GAP in a while, other than clearance sales.

    • @chouyi007
      @chouyi007 4 года назад +1

      @@patrick6935 Actually, that really wasn't it for me. My do-everything handgun was and is a Gen 4 Glock 31, but I shoot He Man-division in 3-gun, and you need something with a .45" or larger bore for that division, and so to keep a maximum of parts commonality and so the gun would feel identical in my hand (exact same frame and trigger), I got a new-in-box Gen 4 Glock 37 for $300 out the door. I subsequently found it to be impossibly easy to shoot and excellent.

  • @markmalone279
    @markmalone279 4 года назад +46

    I've been loading my own for the .357 Sig. I order brass custom headstamped 'Tyconda'.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 года назад +4

      But do you want to shoot your Tyyycooondas?

    • @markmalone279
      @markmalone279 4 года назад +10

      Oh heck no. They are far too valuable for that. I mostly just get them out and rub and polish on them. Sometimes I scatter a hundred or so loose rounds on my bed and roll around on them in euphoria.

    • @A.Clifton
      @A.Clifton 4 года назад +1

      @@markmalone279 Not gonna lie, I'd 100% buy a box of these just for the joke alone

  • @scottsteeves
    @scottsteeves 4 года назад +74

    Paul must own a leather,t-shirt,meat,fruit,fleece store.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад +5

      Or his wife has a giant sewing machine to patch up all the orange-stained holes.

    • @Hjerte_Verke
      @Hjerte_Verke 4 года назад +1

      I imagine he gets multiple uses out of the t-shirts and fleece; just rotates and refolds the layers til he gets to a portion that doesn't have holes in it and shoots it again. Then again many projectiles fail to penetrate the high tech fleece backstop...

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад +2

      A person can buy a large stack of cheap t-shirts from Goodwill. Or denim. Or cheap leather.

  • @cigarsarge1
    @cigarsarge1 4 года назад +54

    I’ve been sold on the 357 Sig for a long while. It’s flat shooting, accurate, and powerful. Love my Glock 32.

    • @scottc.real_2legit_4u55
      @scottc.real_2legit_4u55 4 года назад +1

      I have got to get one of these! I've got to put more effort into finding one at a good price!

    • @cigarsarge1
      @cigarsarge1 4 года назад +3

      levi blankenship Not much experience with them are you...

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад +3

      It's got some downsides too. Big noise, big flash, heavy recoil due to high pressures, and favoring longer barrels most likely. You get .355" projectiles and .40" magazine capacity.

    • @russellsandidge4210
      @russellsandidge4210 4 года назад +8

      I own a Glock 22 in 40 caliber. I saw a video recently that all you have to do is take the barrel out of the Glock 22 and get a 357 Sig Barrel,..drop it in and thus a 357 Sig. Without having to change out the magazines!

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад +1

      @@russellsandidge4210 Probably going to give you problems over time, just like the .40 has for those Glocks which were designed originally for 9mm.

  • @PPISAFETY
    @PPISAFETY 4 года назад +9

    It's nice to see someone devoting some attention to the .357 SIG after so many have declared it dead. A police agency I worked with was an early adopter of the cartridge, and it was interesting to me that the first Speer Gold Dot 125 grain cartridges we received back then chronographed at 1.450 FPS. Speer ultimately reduced this to 1,350 FPS nominal velocity after input on recoil from LE agencies and based on further testing. The Federal HST 125 grain load is also at 1,350 FPS out of my P226. It penetrates about an inch less in gel than the Gold Dot and expands a little more, but both are excellent loads. The Gold Dot is just designed to be slightly more "barrier blind". Both loads are super accurate in my three guns that shoot the cartridge.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 10 месяцев назад

      Sounds like it's the complicated method of getting +p ammo

  • @bly4233
    @bly4233 4 года назад +6

    THANK YOU FOR THE 65gr Underwood’s in the test!

  • @richjageman3976
    @richjageman3976 4 года назад +2

    IMHO the chronograph part is useful information. Never thought it was tedious.

  • @manosdefierro85
    @manosdefierro85 4 года назад +15

    .357sig LIVES!!!!!
    Love my p229 & G32!

  • @skylordsix
    @skylordsix 4 года назад +156

    I've never found anything to be "tedious" in these videos.

    • @terryboyer1342
      @terryboyer1342 4 года назад

      skylord Just derogatory comments.

    • @Jexorz86
      @Jexorz86 4 года назад

      @@remasteredretropcgames3312 I still laugh at "And i assure you, i have the requisite amount of bling to fire a weapon such as this, and zooms out into rings and a pimp coat"

  • @MnS101
    @MnS101 4 года назад +2

    I enjoy watching the chronograph portion of the videos. I never skip it.

  • @grantorino2009
    @grantorino2009 4 года назад +13

    Great handgun. Great cartridge. The .357 Sig sure has its place among self-defense calibers. Another superb video.

  • @johnnyturbo8460
    @johnnyturbo8460 4 года назад +20

    That 357 sig round has some of the most consistent round speeds i have ever heard. Each brand's rounds were consistent to each from the same brand

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад +2

      Yea, I have totally liked his videos and I don’t think anyone else won’t find interest

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад +1

      Id love to know you better Johnny, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and cool person

    • @adamshaw8214
      @adamshaw8214 Год назад

      ​@@tracyannbanks123_if that's you in the picture your hot

  • @larquefausse3623
    @larquefausse3623 4 года назад +8

    Just bought a .357 SIG conversion barrel for my pistol recently and Paul comes through with this video. Thanks, Mr Harrell!

  • @denmar355
    @denmar355 Год назад +4

    Basically, all defense ammo out of the .357 Sig is effective at defensive ranges. Something he didn’t stress is the fact that Underwood Extreme Defender is blind to barriers. It will perform better than the others through denim and glass and metal. Also, it has more manageable recoil than the heavier ammo. If he shot his mock-up target after passing through barriers it becomes quite apparent. Love the .357 Sig!

  • @cofrbooboo
    @cofrbooboo 4 года назад +1

    Man that sucker has a loud bark! VERY impressed with the Gold Dot group, even if it was only 7 yards. Another excellent video, Mr. Harrell!

  • @13th_Apostle
    @13th_Apostle 4 года назад +45

    Hey Paul... thanks for what you do.... literally outstanding

  • @dannybarton940
    @dannybarton940 4 года назад +6

    My EDC is a G32. This video gave me a good deal of comfort with my ammo selection. But having used it on refilled milk jugs, I was pretty comfortable already. Thanks for the excellent work.

  • @TwentytenS4B8
    @TwentytenS4B8 4 года назад +22

    If you get hit with anything traveling at 2,000+ FPS you're going to have a bad day.

    • @TheGreatPurpleFerret
      @TheGreatPurpleFerret 4 года назад +7

      Quick somebody stop the photons! :P

    • @bly4233
      @bly4233 4 года назад +1

      Federal ammo et al says 2,200fps, but it seems that’s not a firm necessity. It’s because the bullet starts damaging more that the tissue it actually crushes, ie it becomes rifle damage, which has a much greater chance of incapacitating.

  • @brandonc4770
    @brandonc4770 4 года назад +20

    357 Sig is an awesome round. Shredded that meat target. I love it when you make these ammo comparison videos!

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад +1

      Yea, I have totally liked his videos and I don’t think anyone else won’t find interest

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад +1

      Id love to know you better Brandon, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and cool person

  • @iboopedyournose
    @iboopedyournose 4 года назад +36

    Was just thinking about how I’ve missed Paul’s videos and this pops up! Thanks for the continued content 😀

  • @davidsomerset8411
    @davidsomerset8411 4 года назад +13

    I love the tedious chronograph tests. Test on Paul.
    Ok now that I watched it's another good one. I don't own a 357 sig but still found this very interesting.

  • @tomasrecinos448
    @tomasrecinos448 4 года назад +2

    Paul Harrel and .357 sig video it seriously can't get any better than that, I love underwood ammo is the best IMO

  • @Mmyers1177
    @Mmyers1177 4 года назад +2

    1) Excellent Video
    2) Excellent Channel
    3) Excellent Round

  • @jonkR96
    @jonkR96 4 года назад +34

    Paul is just like the USPS.
    “Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.”
    Emphasis on “rounds”.

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 4 года назад

      USPS doesn't follow that philosophy anymore. Now it's. "If I see any excuse to skip your mailbox, I will." They won't deliver if there is a car within 15' of the box now in my city. Right now USPS has competition, and isn't as necessary as it used to be. Further, they can't keep up with the free market, especially while using unionized government workers. I honestly think they ought to be privatized. Govt should specify how addresses work, then keep out of the way.

  • @56Spookdog
    @56Spookdog 4 года назад +81

    Watching the 49er game or Paul... Paul for the win.

    • @Bongo_Fury
      @Bongo_Fury 4 года назад +10

      Bill Van Raam the 49ers are anti-gun. They donated $500k to gun control groups. They used to be my team but I can’t support them anymore.

    • @56Spookdog
      @56Spookdog 4 года назад +4

      daniel castle the NFL is anti 2A. Since they moved I’ve not followed them much but at the end of the season I will be a fair weather fan.

    • @highcraigbarger
      @highcraigbarger 4 года назад +1

      Same here. Saw the video was available and muted the game! (rooting for the Vikings)
      Love my P224 in 357 Sig!

    • @chrisgodfrey2846
      @chrisgodfrey2846 4 года назад +1

      #SEAHAWKS #GLOCK23 #2A

    • @Bongo_Fury
      @Bongo_Fury 4 года назад

      Bill Van Raam I don’t really watch the NFL much either. Just the games I gamble on. Lol.

  • @stevewhisperer6609
    @stevewhisperer6609 2 года назад +5

    Great video!
    I've been carrying .357 SIG quite often over the years since I picked up my first 229 in the mid 90's.
    I've been using Speer GDs as the default carry load. While I've always heard a lot of folks talk about the Underwood rounds, the all around consistency of the GDs, ( velocity, grouping/accuracy, terminal performance, etc, ) has always been a selling point for me.

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад

      Yea, I have totally liked his videos and I don’t think anyone else won’t find interest

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад

      Id love to know you better Steve, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and cool person

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr771 4 года назад +1

    Best firearms and ammunition demonstrations on RUclips.

  • @BeefLettuceAndPotato
    @BeefLettuceAndPotato 4 года назад +49

    Extremely relevant video considering how many people must be googling "what gun did Jack Wilson use" or something along those lines. Interesting and informative as always.

    • @johnski4709
      @johnski4709 4 года назад +9

      Just about any caliber of bullet would have been lethal to the perp's head. Handguns are poor killing tools. It's all about shot placement.

    • @BeefLettuceAndPotato
      @BeefLettuceAndPotato 4 года назад +6

      @@johnski4709 no doubt about that and I wouldn't disagree. Just saying, a lot of new shooters or just folks who wanna carry what a hero carries have been looking up what caliber/gun he used to end that p.o.s.

    • @talltale9760
      @talltale9760 4 года назад +6

      levi blankenship cool story bro

    • @nolwino
      @nolwino 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/MwjIxgJerjQ/видео.html

    • @talltale9760
      @talltale9760 4 года назад

      nolwino now imagine what he can do with a rifle

  • @jonross377
    @jonross377 4 года назад +23

    Leave the chronograph in the videos forever please!!!

  • @cb8506
    @cb8506 4 года назад +10

    Thanks Paul! My choice for edc/personal protection is a G32 with Underwood 357SIG 125g bonded jhp. Look forward to your informative, logical comparisons.

  • @george_aurelius
    @george_aurelius 4 года назад +8

    The accuracy testing is particularly helpful - thanks.

  • @DEATH_TO_TYRANTS
    @DEATH_TO_TYRANTS 4 года назад +137

    After that church shooting, I imagine this video will be very popular.

    • @stewpidasso288
      @stewpidasso288 4 года назад +4

      *will

    • @KurtOnoIR
      @KurtOnoIR 4 года назад +9

      Is that what he carried? I never heard much about that one.

    • @rcflight13
      @rcflight13 4 года назад +24

      Yep, P229 chambered in 357 SIG.

    • @nickr4015
      @nickr4015 4 года назад +7

      I heard it was a gold dot that dotted the perps head.

    • @scottc.real_2legit_4u55
      @scottc.real_2legit_4u55 4 года назад +14

      You have to protect yourself the crazies and the evil ones are out there. So sad they feel the need to kill good people. The Texas church shooting about 3 years is part of why I started buying firearms. I wont be cattle and neither should you!

  • @rowdyron4111
    @rowdyron4111 4 года назад +3

    Absolutely excellent content, and presentation. The chrono work is the icing on the cake. Thanks Paul.

  • @amorphoussolid8512
    @amorphoussolid8512 4 года назад

    Excellent, thorough, repeatable, enjoyable and consistent. I love this channel.

  • @tommylee2894
    @tommylee2894 4 года назад +2

    Man I so look forward to these video. They are just outright fun to watch, and real world informative!

  • @wtwolverine16
    @wtwolverine16 4 года назад +3

    I currently have a .357 sig firearm, & I thank you Paul for testing out the different brands. I have a better idea of my next purchase for my own testing.

  • @mikedroz2301
    @mikedroz2301 4 года назад +7

    I gotta say, I'm really enjoying the new table

  • @stevengleave9241
    @stevengleave9241 3 года назад

    Your well spoken and a joy to watch! Most informative channel on such topics.

  • @space-man313
    @space-man313 2 года назад +1

    I love how straight, quick, and to the point this guy is👍🏼

  • @lemontier
    @lemontier 4 года назад +3

    It was interesting to see the big flash from the Remington ammo, no flash from the Speers but more smoke. I don't own a 357sig but have heard people complain about the muzzle flash. Your chronograph testing showed more than FPS. Thank you Paul.

  • @larrydavis9851
    @larrydavis9851 4 года назад +8

    Thank you SO MUCH for making this video, Paul! I've been dying to see another 357 sig ammo comparison, especially with the 65 grain Xtreme Defender!

  • @epiplayer3
    @epiplayer3 4 года назад

    Love the videos sir your humor and sarcasm are a definite plus.

  • @SOLOLIKETHECUP212
    @SOLOLIKETHECUP212 2 года назад

    I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation on the caliber i carry daily. I just subscribed and I will start watching your content from the beginning to now. Thank you for all the hard work you put into your content. It's very much appreciated!!

  • @DeSousausmc
    @DeSousausmc 4 года назад +11

    Another benefit of the xtreme defender is its ability to (in many calibers) defeat IIIA and below armor. With armor becoming so cheap and readily available I think that an armored mass shooter is a threat (however unlikely) that we should maybe consider when choosing defense ammo. Would love to see you perform some more armor tests one day.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 10 месяцев назад

      Nobody will test it against lvl 3.
      No real purpose of 357 sig underwood if 9mm at 1700 fps underwood also pierces the same 3a armor no problem

    • @portersorensen8814
      @portersorensen8814 9 месяцев назад

      @@jason200912 Proof? Or does it only work in your head

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 9 месяцев назад

      @@portersorensen8814 look up 9mm underwood vs 3a armor and quit being a rude douchebag of you want to see it

  • @hivelsword
    @hivelsword 4 года назад +3

    I bought my SIG P239 in .357 SIG back in 2003. I'm using Galloway Precision +1 bases and It's loaded with Underwood. It's always been heavy for size but it really soaks up the recoil. One of my favorite carry guns. Also, I have the Underwood with the Gold Dot but they also have one that almost looks like a Golden Saber but without the angled cuts. That's what I'm currently using. 5 shot average is 1,491 fps.

  • @JoRocket77
    @JoRocket77 4 года назад +2

    This guy is a really good teacher. I just found the channel last night. Excellent content.

  • @JohnNumber5
    @JohnNumber5 4 года назад

    I have been waiting for this review for a long time. I'm glad Paul did it.

  • @scottlamp3097
    @scottlamp3097 4 года назад +6

    That is some beautiful country. Thanks for another great vid!

  • @nunya7319
    @nunya7319 3 года назад +4

    I love my Glock 33 in .357 Sig. I love the HST through my particular gun. But it is good to see there are other options out there. Some I haven't tested yet. Thanks Paul, another great vid.

  • @thornelson6289
    @thornelson6289 4 года назад +1

    I love the tedious chronograph testing! Thanks PH!! Your sacrifice is much appreciated. 👍👍

    • @thornelson6289
      @thornelson6289 4 года назад

      I've always been the kind of person who shys away from the "standard 9mm", but why would someone choose this round over it? Velocity is def higher, but the meat target says performance is on par with 9mm. I've not shot it before, but the recoil looks more substantial as well.

  • @kenclark4603
    @kenclark4603 4 года назад

    Thank you Paul! I have waited for this video for a long time! 👍👍👍

  • @daveinalaska467
    @daveinalaska467 4 года назад +4

    Paul. In my humble and very experienced opinion, the chronograph testing is vital information demonstrating in real time, true weapon specific muzzle velocities, standard deviation in velocities for cartridge / caliber and overall cartridge specific performance. Ergo, not tedious from an inclusive informational perspective. Thanks for your videos and hard work. This old firearms and tactics trainer, retired soldier and now retired cop enjoys all aspects of your informative presentations.

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад

      Yea, I have totally liked his videos and I don’t think anyone else won’t find interest

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад

      Id love to know you better Dave, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and cool person

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 10 месяцев назад

      It's an overated test since the box is usually pretty good at letting you know the fps and the meter often has errors because it'll never be as reliable as a high speed camera

  • @clukinvar
    @clukinvar 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for making the .357 Sig Ammunition video.

  • @jaredsmith4944
    @jaredsmith4944 4 года назад

    Best, most informative video I have seen yet. And that's saying a lot because you're other videos are A+. , Thanks so much

  • @jcastle614
    @jcastle614 4 года назад +1

    Great video Mr Harrell, I eagerly await your next one!! I for one enjoy the chrnographing ,the fact that someone would rather take the time to comment to the contrary instead of just fast forwarding just doesn't instill much faith in my fellow man !! I mean w.t.f. people !!!! Thanks again sir for taking the time to make these videos , class act as always.

  • @patrickmessinger9476
    @patrickmessinger9476 4 года назад +6

    Paul please leave in the chronograph footage in all future vids, I love it thumbs up, oh and please excuse me if I stay with my Ruger SP101 for conceal carry. Thanks.

  • @dpbeardslee
    @dpbeardslee 4 года назад +3

    Good video. One tidbit regarding Glock sights. While they are fixed, they offer the rear sights in four different heights. IIRC each sight changes the point of impact at 25 yards by 3", so you have kind of a rough adjustment in a 12" range. You can tell which sight height you have by the lines on the side of the rear sight, and Glock offers them in both polymer for really cheap, and steel for pretty cheap. So if you wanted to adjust elevation for the hot Underwood ammo, you could do it pretty easy.

  • @nickma71
    @nickma71 4 года назад

    Thanks for hosting, and as always, well done.

  • @nikoteen9110
    @nikoteen9110 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video! I’ve been a believer in the 357 sig since the beginning!

  • @johnski4709
    @johnski4709 4 года назад +9

    The various stores around where I live have 20-round boxes of SIG Sauer Elite Performance for sale at $10 each.

  • @64samsky
    @64samsky 4 года назад +4

    I carry a Glock 32c in 357Sig, I use Sig V-Crown ammo. I reload for 357Sig and much other types of ammo, so never a shortage for me. And yes, I practice with the Sig V-Crown ammunition on a semi regular basis.

  • @josephtucciarone6878
    @josephtucciarone6878 6 месяцев назад +1

    Another example of your wisdom helping us to make intelligent decisions. Thank you for taking the time to think out your comments.
    I disagree with the point of impact conclusion. If it performs better against the intended target, then adjust or change the sights. A gunsmith can help if necessary.

  • @VTPSTTU
    @VTPSTTU 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video! I can't see myself getting a .357 Sig handgun, but I always enjoy the thought processes behind these videos.

  • @KurtOnoIR
    @KurtOnoIR 4 года назад +22

    I love the 357 sig videos! I have bought the best pistol in the world! Haven't I! Yessss

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci 4 года назад +1

      .357 sig is for people who need runners on their truck to step up / into the driver's seat.

    • @KurtOnoIR
      @KurtOnoIR 4 года назад +2

      @@DinoNucci lol I took the runners off my truck to make it look taller.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci 4 года назад +2

      @@KurtOnoIR strong work

    • @KurtOnoIR
      @KurtOnoIR 4 года назад

      @@DinoNucci 🤣

  • @SmokeDogNY420
    @SmokeDogNY420 4 года назад +21

    The longer time goes on, the more Gold Dots impress me, in most any caliber.

    • @kimberlysimmons5802
      @kimberlysimmons5802 4 года назад +3

      I carry underwoods 160gr 10mm with bonded gold dots, nothing else.

    • @raivkka4313
      @raivkka4313 4 года назад +4

      They Gold Dots make nice rifle bullets as well.

    • @UnforgivingDemon
      @UnforgivingDemon 4 года назад

      SmokeDogNY420 Got them in my G17 and my 14.5” AR.

    • @ekinne
      @ekinne 4 года назад

      @@kimberlysimmons5802 That is also my favorite 10mm round after trying many from Underwood and others. It is like Goldilock's "Just right" cup of porridge for me. Startling performance.

    • @kimberlysimmons5802
      @kimberlysimmons5802 4 года назад

      @@ekinne yeah I hear ya, the thing is for me I'm not worried about penetration I want maximum energy dump. I have carry the 135 grain Spears for a little bit too I like those as well especially in the summer

  • @brobdingnagianone900
    @brobdingnagianone900 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for covering the 357 Sig and I enjoy the chronograph section.

  • @chpalmer2007
    @chpalmer2007 4 года назад

    Thanks Paul! As always.. appreciate the effort and education you bestow..

  • @BOOSTED70KG
    @BOOSTED70KG 4 года назад +4

    Thanks Paul! I was wondering about that, and you saved me from buying more "Hyper" ammo. :-)

  • @fivemethoxy
    @fivemethoxy 4 года назад +3

    That Underwood ammo is no joke!

  • @genemiller4148
    @genemiller4148 4 года назад

    Excellent as usual Paul. Good information. Powerful round.

  • @Jst29483
    @Jst29483 2 года назад

    Another very informative and helpful video from Paul. Thank you! I carry the Sig P229 in .357 and use Liberty Civil Defense (2300 fps and 587 fpe) with a terminal effect of 4” wide by 12” deep. I trust my life and my family’s life with this ammo and with Sig Sauer.

  • @ryantoemmes9685
    @ryantoemmes9685 4 года назад +4

    Great segment Paul ~
    Love the volume of the mix .357 sig loads ~
    I carry my HK P2000 .357 sig
    Also optional .40 S&W spare barrel unit...
    Load > Winchester Ranger Talon 125 grn JHP
    I love the Win TALON bullet expansion claw formation projectile from Winchester ~
    Also the Federal HST 125 grn JHP L.E. Ammo
    Both loads a tad over 1400 FPS on both...

  • @hellotherefriend4249
    @hellotherefriend4249 4 года назад +11

    Lol at 3:46 you can visibly see Paul do a mental "double-take" at the numbers that the Underwood ammo was putting out. It surprised me too, Underwood is nasty stuff.

    • @xmachine7003
      @xmachine7003 4 года назад +2

      Hot Rocker. Like the old Hi-vel.

  • @GerryG91100
    @GerryG91100 4 года назад +3

    I enjoy the chronograph tests, it’s cool to see your reactions, and for me to form my own conclusions before you break down the numbers. Thanks for leaving it in.

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад

      Yea, I have totally liked his videos and I don’t think anyone else won’t find interest

    • @tracyannbanks123_
      @tracyannbanks123_ Год назад

      Id love to know you better Gerry, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and cool person

  • @timbarry824
    @timbarry824 4 года назад

    Paul thank you for sharing content and dealing with the I-net experts... I appreciate your focus on the content..

  • @bly4233
    @bly4233 4 года назад +3

    The most interesting thing about 65gr 357Sig is getting AR pistol ballistics out of your barrel swapped Glock 35...it’s a rifle in your holster.

  • @lazytv4318
    @lazytv4318 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for leaving the chronograph section as I do not find this "tedious".

  • @kewlcrayon3161
    @kewlcrayon3161 4 года назад

    Very good video. Arguably the most common and one of the least expensive choices seems to provide great consistency in velocity, accuracy and performance.

  • @glockensig
    @glockensig 4 года назад +2

    My P229 in 357Sig has 10,786 rounds thru it representing 191 offerings! I have 81 more loads to try. I carry Federal HST. If those become unavailable, I will probably go with Gold Dots. Winchester Rangers have been accurate and would probably do a good job, but I have had a couple weird instances with Winchester that make me shy away from it!!
    Love me the 357Sig...Just had my 2340 out this last weekend!

  • @jimf1964
    @jimf1964 4 года назад +4

    I always like the way you're one of the few that remembers some of us live in areas with restrictions, and or have our own personal limitations. Most channels aren't that thorough.
    I'm also getting more and more respect for Remington green and white box. I've used it in the past and thought it was elcheapo, but it isn't. Load my own now anyway, but this is all still interesting.

    • @scottydouglass1892
      @scottydouglass1892 4 года назад

      Do not use your own home made ammo for defense. Only use factory. Legal reasons.

    • @jimf1964
      @jimf1964 4 года назад

      Scotty Douglass Hmmm, I've never really thought about that. I prefer my own because it's more accurate, and the load I use shoots so soft, but with decent velocity. I target shoot a lot, but maybe you're right about defence.

  • @theindooroutdoorsman
    @theindooroutdoorsman 4 года назад +13

    I'm gonna say this. I've heard a lot of negative about .357 Sig over the years, *but* it's good enough for the Secret Service.

    • @adstaton8461
      @adstaton8461 4 года назад +1

      One Secret Service agent, when asked why they carried the 357sig round, responded, "It makes it easier to pick out our shell casings during the investigation."

    • @seaskiff20
      @seaskiff20 4 года назад +1

      The Federal Air Marshalls also use it. Search YT for Gary Byrne.

    • @danielboggan2479
      @danielboggan2479 4 года назад

      Secret service doesn’t use 357 Sig or even Sig Sauer pistols anymore, they are switching to glock 9mm.
      Not that I have anything against 357 Sig, I desperately have wanted to own one for quite some time

    • @theindooroutdoorsman
      @theindooroutdoorsman 4 года назад

      @@danielboggan2479 Only because they're using CBP to pay for them.

  • @Rebellion1776
    @Rebellion1776 4 года назад +2

    Love the .357 SIG! Thanks for doing this vid!

  • @unluckyplayer5235
    @unluckyplayer5235 4 года назад

    Your channel is one that I always watch the entire as{s to keep the revenue flowing. I have learned much.

  • @andyrihn1
    @andyrihn1 4 года назад +18

    Guys, Jack Wilson domed the shooter. As a career firearms instructor he could have done that with basically any pistol on the market. There are no magic calibers. Training is everything

    • @bradbowhunts
      @bradbowhunts 4 года назад +4

      But at least my buddies all take my 357 Sig SERIOUSLY now. And they give it some attention. I know a 380ACP hp would've shut the lights off but everyone already accepts that light round as mainstream.

    • @andyrihn1
      @andyrihn1 4 года назад +2

      carpe diem plenty of “superbly trained marksmen” carried .357 mag revolvers and 1911s well into the days of polymer double-stack autos. They carried what they shot well because they were familiar with it, not because it was inherently better than anything else. It was often times in spite of being inherently worse.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci 4 года назад +1

      @@bradbowhunts your friends don't take you or .357 sig seriously

    • @bradbowhunts
      @bradbowhunts 4 года назад +2

      @@DinoNuccimy two close buddies who had been fence sitters just bought conversion barrels for their .40s, and it was because of the buzz from that shooting and a little more prodding from me.. You are a strange individual and that was a strange comment.

  • @ricksorber8343
    @ricksorber8343 4 года назад +8

    I like watching the tedious chronograph parts. I get to see how consistent the various ammo brands are. If I watch over and over, sometimes I’ll skip it. I get to be the judge!

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 Год назад

    I don't know how I missed this one the past 3 years. One of my favorite calibers and content creators. Hmm 🤔. Damn YT.

  • @murrayjimm
    @murrayjimm 3 года назад

    I have two Springfield XD's, identical except one a .40 and the other .357SIG. Having shot both back to back consistently for years, I realize the higher muzzle flash and loudness of the .357SIG, but I also am more comfortable with the "intensity" and perceived value of the .357Sig. Thank you for helping determine the better ammunition matches for the gun, this was very valuable.

  • @trikstari7687
    @trikstari7687 4 года назад +43

    The meat target should be wearing a trench coat.

    • @chancecarlton8403
      @chancecarlton8403 4 года назад +4

      Then he'd have to shoot the watermelon above it.

    • @trikstari7687
      @trikstari7687 4 года назад

      @@chancecarlton8403 this guy got it.

  • @dangerousfreedom4965
    @dangerousfreedom4965 4 года назад +18

    I always wear double hearing protection when available, especially with rifles

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 4 года назад +6

      exactly...and triple condoms when in Bangkok.....

    • @Hjerte_Verke
      @Hjerte_Verke 4 года назад

      Denis O'Brien--ROFL

  • @jamiemitchell9733
    @jamiemitchell9733 4 года назад

    What an awesome presentation.