If you enjoyed this series, we have our MID BUDGET blind test series coming out this summer! Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss it! Bilstein 6112, Ironman Foam Cell Pro, Fox TRD Pro, Falcon, Elka 2.0, Eibach Pro, Dobinsons MRR.
Yall need to do this with a 4Runner as well! It looks like you guys like the front OME front but the rear shock is terrible. Explains a lot in my 4Runner.
These guys doing god’s work for the community! I would never expect 5100 to be this much better because the hearsay on the forums was “they ride stiff especially with no added weight”. Maybe true for a different truck with a different valving? IDK. Now what do you think about the spacer vs stock. Was it similar or worse? Again, thank you guys so much for doing this!
I think a lot of people end up running 5100's with aftermarket coils that they are not valved for and add way too much lift/preload/spring force, then complain about the ride. The spacers were definitely worse than stock!
Yup it's exactly the case that OO said, a majority are running them with "upgraded" coils which ruins them. 6112 are offered in a heavy load variant for the 4r at least which includes heavier rate coils and the valve stack is completely different.
For my JLU with stock springs that I’m told will be softer than the big name, higher lifts, Metalcloak and Northridge 4x4 suggested them saying they will ride well with that spring/5100 considering my budget constraint.
@@OverlandOutfitters it's like 10-20% spring rate change requires updating valving. There is little to no documentation on shock recommended spring rates.
Thanks for your patience guys! Some technical difficulties delayed us, but it was still Friday in Hawaii! Hope you enjoy it, we worked our butts off this time around!
Dude the fact you jumped a basically stock taco with 5100s and didnt grenade anything is a testimate to how solid the Tacoma is. We all run them here in Canada and theyre phenomenal
Id like to see you guys go into more detail about the valving and spring rates. As well as discussing progressive and digressive valving if any of the coilovers were setup as such.
Awesome video. Gives great testament to how much Toyota has done with their stock suspension on the TRD trim levels. For most people you may not even need to do any changes to have a good time offroad.
This channel is FANTASTIC and I am a NEW SUBSCRIBER!!! I am an old off-roader (in my 70's) going back to the early days of BAJA with Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Ivan "Ironman" Stewart and Phil Reusche (who I worked with). Your content is dead on accurate and hopefully people will listen. BTW, I would like you to do a show on "Bump Stops".
Yup, this is what I have on my 4th Gen Taco. Big improvement over stock on or off road. Also added roadmaster active suspension, which helped even more.
The fact that test 1 and 4 were so similar even after Ian massaged number 4 is insane given the price difference. Great video y'all, improvement in every way over season 1. For S3 I'd like to see blind footwear reviews too, my money is on the flip flobsters.
To be fair, i only drilled 1 bleed hole. I was gonna make a video where i slowly fix them... those foxes now have the actual race series piston and much better valving and the text i got from the customer was its the best riding setup hes ever experienced. Fox has a great product, but bad valving.
I love this series. I think as an improvement you could have a grading system to be more precise than just ranking. Like score 1-5 based on a couple categories. 2 being stock, 1 worse than stock, 5 way better than stock.
I'd like to see the best of budget, mid and high go up against the highest of the high. Which may be your eventual plan, anyway. Something like ADS, fox elite etc
I have always been impressed with Bilstein have had them on dozens of vehicles for 10 plus years Never Exspected them to be close to fox 2.5 on some of the test i am impressed that Bilstein is on top 30:06 @Overland Outfitters
@@OverlandOutfitters Any estimate on when the mid budget video will be released? I imagine it takes a lot of work and time since you guys have to remove, install, remove, install, etc the shocks which can't be easy. No rush, I just love these comparison videos and am stoked for the 6112 since those are what I have on my taco. Also, pls bring back the shock collars 😈
Very surprised on the Dobinson's. Coming from the Eibach stage 2R that rode absolutely terrible (put 20k miles on this setup) going to the Dobinson's MRR's. The MRR's ride so smooth on road and off. I know comparing a $1400 setup to a $3k setup isn't fair, but to be fair I have rode in a couple 6112/5160 setups which rode 100 times better than the 2R setup. If I would've went with the 6112/5160's in the first place, I do not believe I would've bought the mrr's. Thank you for what you guys do!
One thing everyone needs to know is that if you have remote reservoirs, the valve shims and even the 10psi difference in the Nitrogen makes a huge difference. My kings are set to 150psi and its perfect. I have a buddy who and Fox 2.5 adjustable remote res. And his Nitrogen psi was jacked way to much and he had an absolute shit ride on his 2nd Gen Tacoma. After I dropped some psi his truck rode pretty Damn good.
One of the best suspension contents on the internet period. I now know I will stick to my tacomas stock suspension and when needed, upgrade to the 5100s thank you!
Loved the video! Did you guys use the stock rear leaf springs for all the shocks? One thing to consider is that some of the aftermarket shocks (I.E. OME) may be valved assuming they will be paired with the corresponding leaf springs. That could potentially explain the sketchiness of the OME rear shocks if they are tuned with excessive rebound dampening when paired with the stock leafs.
I really enjoyed the technical real world performance and comments and comedy thrown in. I’ve had 5100s on a Tundra and loved them. Using some 2.5 Radflo Coilovers now on my long travel desert truck and love those too. Good stuff guys!
THIS IS HANDS DOWN MY NEW FAV YT VIDEO! Holy hell these guys are great! I want to get a new suspension just to hang out with these dudes. Sooo funny - SUB’d
Wow such different results than my own. The Dobinsons are way more plush than any Bilsteins i have ran on my 18 Tacoma. They didn’t say how much preload they were running or what position on the circlips which plays a big part.
I have Dobinsons IMS on my 4Runner and in all aspects huge improvement over the factory XREAS suspension imo, on and off road. Less body roll, not too firm, off road I feel planted, I do mostly beach driving, the beach can be rough in terms of terrain, not all smooth sand many dips and precious tire tracks.
@@rossipremier sometimes the unbiased truth is hard to accept haha. I highly doubt these 2 very knowledgeable guys would've ran the wrong spring and/or preloaded them "way too much"
Wow - great test! The guys in my local 4WP store recommended Bilstein as a little better than Fox, especially considering the price difference, so they were definitely right. Kinda surprised that the Eibachs weren't better since their springs are usually highly rated.
What a very detailed and awesome job you guys did! Helped me a lot! Definitely earned my subscription! Do you guys have any review or experience on the Fox 2.0? Specially the one that offers 3" lift?
I went from a spacer lift on stock Hitachi's to the Eibachs, and the difference is incredible. I'm a little bummed they weren't considered as good as the Bilsteins though. One day I hope to try super expensive shocks for a comparison.
It wasn't mentioned in the video I think but we're all the same spring rates used and we're they all the same as the stock rate? It looks like aftermarket springs were used on each shock but would nice to confirm that. Thanks! Great series to watch!
Buy once and cry once. I bought Kings stage 4A from AccuTune and zero regrets. If you can afford it then getr done. If you can't then you will still have fun with lower quality ones don't worry. I had fun with my stock bilstein 4600s on Tacoma TRD Off road
This is super useful for a lot of buyers!!! I've had the fox 2.5s and was not impressed until I had them revealed. They should be better out of the box. Weirdly the fox 2.0s we're quite good and plush feeling on my Tundra, but very harsh on a 4Runner. It's like the vehicle formula they're using for the midsize segment is based on a 3000kg vehicle. Thanks again!! Great content.
I got bilstein 5100s on my truck with coils from all dogs off-road and they have been great i hear a lot of people hating on them but they do the job on and off road very well for me. And i do wheel them hard quite a bit and ive been nothing but impressed especially with the the price too.
Sounds about right. I have 5100 with eibach pro truck coils on my gx470. The eibach springs are pretty supple and the bilstein wrangles em in. The 5100 s weakness are stiff slow speed damping like on bad city streets you feel the little bumps and on rock crawl they will toss your head side to side. I did pair mine with sumo springs bumpstops on all courners when the digressive valving falls off. I haven’t experienced topping out yet but i will probably get a limiting strap as extra insurance
Did the spacer use bilstein 4600 shocks? they are supposedly valved the same or very similar as 5100s so did the spacer through off the geometry to make them perform worse?
That's what I was wondering as well. Internally there's no difference between the stock (TRD?) 4600 shocks and 5100s, except the shim stacks each uses. Both are digressive as well.
Everyone says 5100’s are rough, I loved mine. Smooth, no issues on or off road for over landing purposes. But also did JBA upper control arms. I’d love to see this style test with stock UCA and after market UCA, it’s gotta make a difference
Well done guys ! I know it was a lot of work .....I have eibach stage 1 on my 24 4runner. small bump compliance on road isnt to good . Higher speed small bump off road is much better
The final reveal was shockingly hilarious! Great work and thanks for both the honest comparisons and entertainment. Looking forward to the next blind test. Do you think the preload collar or the top spacer was the biggest contributor to the Westscott kit's poor performance?
As I am watching, the first thing I want to comment about is that I love that more and more car related channels are using the metric system 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 bravo
We find that most people who run budget shocks tend to keep the swaybar. Also there was lots of feedback last year saying that we should have kept it. Finally, these shocks are tuned around having a swaybar, so it's the fairest way to test them
Aren't most of these aftermarket shocks even in their lower-weight "stock" versions intended for overlanders with some additional weight day-to-day? (Bumpers, winch etc even if not loaded down) I'd be curious to see the same test with a couple hundred extra kilos in the back and a steel bumper on the front.
Can’t wait for the video with the Dobinsons MRR, considering adjustable suspensions how much time will be spent adjusting LSC, HSC, and dampening prior to testing?
The one question that I do have that I don't believe was mentioned is how is the lift being achieved on the Bilstein 5100? It looks like this might be a lift spring like an OME 885?
Fantastic shock show! Can't wait the Mid Tier comparison show. When doing Mid Tier comparison, please indicate which setting/groove you put them in. Or, is it even possible to try different settings on the same shocks? As an example, after so much research through RUclips and forums, my understanding is Bilstein 6112 and Eibach Pro stiffness changes quite a lot depending on groove you set them in. Thanks so much.
I know this is the budget test, but I think a lot of us want a fox 2.5 pes, king 2.5, dobinson mrr, new ride shocks, icon with resi and have them tuned for the Tacoma if people you would buy from offer that (ex: accutune). Also would be interesting to see these with various lbs of weight added as well.
We did a higher budget test last year with king, fox, icon, elka and bilstein, but we'd be down to do it again if there's enough stoke on this video and our mid budget one coming up!
Awesome video! Had the 6112 on my 4runner and leaning towards that setup on my GX460, any updates on when that video will be coming out, super pumped to see it!
Awesome job guys. Enjoyed this video very much. It was hilarious. 38 minute video didnt seem long at all with all the laughs. Keep up the good work. 😂👍
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If you enjoyed this series, we have our MID BUDGET blind test series coming out this summer! Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss it! Bilstein 6112, Ironman Foam Cell Pro, Fox TRD Pro, Falcon, Elka 2.0, Eibach Pro, Dobinsons MRR.
Spoiler alert Bilstein wins!
You guys should add the MT64s
You guys should add the MT64s in there
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Yall need to do this with a 4Runner as well! It looks like you guys like the front OME front but the rear shock is terrible. Explains a lot in my 4Runner.
These guys doing god’s work for the community! I would never expect 5100 to be this much better because the hearsay on the forums was “they ride stiff especially with no added weight”. Maybe true for a different truck with a different valving? IDK. Now what do you think about the spacer vs stock. Was it similar or worse? Again, thank you guys so much for doing this!
I think a lot of people end up running 5100's with aftermarket coils that they are not valved for and add way too much lift/preload/spring force, then complain about the ride.
The spacers were definitely worse than stock!
Yup it's exactly the case that OO said, a majority are running them with "upgraded" coils which ruins them. 6112 are offered in a heavy load variant for the 4r at least which includes heavier rate coils and the valve stack is completely different.
Very nice. So much to learn!
For my JLU with stock springs that I’m told will be softer than the big name, higher lifts, Metalcloak and Northridge 4x4 suggested them saying they will ride well with that spring/5100 considering my budget constraint.
@@OverlandOutfitters it's like 10-20% spring rate change requires updating valving. There is little to no documentation on shock recommended spring rates.
production quality was through the roof, not even bs'ing
Bilstein was the first to really invest in R and D offroad and it really shows. They were testing at the Baja 1000 years before anybody else.
Man I love this series!!! Need more episodes need eibach2R vs 6112!!!!!! Keep it up
Thanks for your patience guys! Some technical difficulties delayed us, but it was still Friday in Hawaii! Hope you enjoy it, we worked our butts off this time around!
Holy crap! Did not expect that result! Good on Bilstein!!!!!!!
Just put 5100's all the way around on my GMC. Really happy with their performance.
Wish to have seen the fox 2.0 in this
Yeah I run the fox 2.0 on my 4runner
Same pretty unfortunate they didn't include it
The shock collars had me dieing😂
Dude the fact you jumped a basically stock taco with 5100s and didnt grenade anything is a testimate to how solid the Tacoma is. We all run them here in Canada and theyre phenomenal
Would of love to see the bilstein 5100 vs the 6120 in this testing 37:55 @Overland Outfitters
Great video.
Why not include stock shocks in the blind test? Would be good to know if they were rated better than others.
Id like to see you guys go into more detail about the valving and spring rates. As well as discussing progressive and digressive valving if any of the coilovers were setup as such.
Get subscribed if you aren't already! We have deep dive videos on each setup coming out soon!
Awesome video. Gives great testament to how much Toyota has done with their stock suspension on the TRD trim levels. For most people you may not even need to do any changes to have a good time offroad.
The higher TRD trims actually use Bilstiens, so there's that. Those being the TRD Pro, TRD Trail, ect.
Top notch work! Informative AND super hilarious. Really looking forward to the mid tier shootout w/ the 6112s.
This channel is FANTASTIC and I am a NEW SUBSCRIBER!!!
I am an old off-roader (in my 70's) going back to the early days of BAJA with Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Ivan "Ironman" Stewart and Phil Reusche (who I worked with).
Your content is dead on accurate and hopefully people will listen. BTW, I would like you to do a show on "Bump Stops".
Love my 6112/5160 combo......
Have the same set up on 4th gen runner. Love em
I'm on 5100s I really think I'm gonna go with the 6112 and 5160s next too. I love the 5100s though they have been awesome.
Yup, this is what I have on my 4th Gen Taco. Big improvement over stock on or off road. Also added roadmaster active suspension, which helped even more.
This just reinforces my choice in the 5100s for my vehicles.
Spring rate of each strut option would be great to know.
this is the best side to side review! now im really convinced that my 1 yr old set of 5100s are good good. thank you guys
Incredible video guys. As everyone else is saying - the production quality of this video is absolutely top tier. Love y’all’s content!!
The fact that test 1 and 4 were so similar even after Ian massaged number 4 is insane given the price difference. Great video y'all, improvement in every way over season 1. For S3 I'd like to see blind footwear reviews too, my money is on the flip flobsters.
To be fair, i only drilled 1 bleed hole. I was gonna make a video where i slowly fix them... those foxes now have the actual race series piston and much better valving and the text i got from the customer was its the best riding setup hes ever experienced. Fox has a great product, but bad valving.
That was a great shock shootout. Keeping the testers from knowing which shock they were testing was a nice addition. Shock collars for the win!
I love this series. I think as an improvement you could have a grading system to be more precise than just ranking. Like score 1-5 based on a couple categories. 2 being stock, 1 worse than stock, 5 way better than stock.
Thought the same
I'd like to see the best of budget, mid and high go up against the highest of the high. Which may be your eventual plan, anyway. Something like ADS, fox elite etc
Im happy to hear/see this vid. Makes me feel awesome about the 5100s I have sitting here waiting to go on my first gen tundra. Cant wait!
Update. Installed on my truck and have been great so far.
The guys testing the shocks and actually getting shocked at the end are great sports going through this! Great review and testing! Loved this episode!
I have always been impressed with Bilstein have had them on dozens of vehicles for 10 plus years Never Exspected them to be close to fox 2.5 on some of the test i am impressed that Bilstein is on top 30:06 @Overland Outfitters
Great show boys!! I wish the 6112 was thrown in there but maybe in the future? Either way keep up the great work 🤘🏼
Mid budget will include the 6112. Stay tuned!
Most excited for this! Can’t wait to see the mid budget, as I think the 6112 will do great
@@OverlandOutfitterscan you throw in the Ironman Foam cells into that test as well??
@@TacomaJack09 they were included in that test
@@OverlandOutfitters Any estimate on when the mid budget video will be released? I imagine it takes a lot of work and time since you guys have to remove, install, remove, install, etc the shocks which can't be easy. No rush, I just love these comparison videos and am stoked for the 6112 since those are what I have on my taco.
Also, pls bring back the shock collars 😈
Very surprised on the Dobinson's. Coming from the Eibach stage 2R that rode absolutely terrible (put 20k miles on this setup) going to the Dobinson's MRR's. The MRR's ride so smooth on road and off. I know comparing a $1400 setup to a $3k setup isn't fair, but to be fair I have rode in a couple 6112/5160 setups which rode 100 times better than the 2R setup. If I would've went with the 6112/5160's in the first place, I do not believe I would've bought the mrr's. Thank you for what you guys do!
Do you like the ride of the 6112 over the MMR? I’m having this debate on a 460
@@scholotzkys395 Definitely prefer the mrr's over the 6112's.
Great video! What coils are you running with the Bilstein 5100 shocks ?
Would love to see how the OME BP51s stack up against some other comparable shocks
One thing everyone needs to know is that if you have remote reservoirs, the valve shims and even the 10psi difference in the Nitrogen makes a huge difference. My kings are set to 150psi and its perfect. I have a buddy who and Fox 2.5 adjustable remote res. And his Nitrogen psi was jacked way to much and he had an absolute shit ride on his 2nd Gen Tacoma. After I dropped some psi his truck rode pretty Damn good.
hands down best off-road suspension video in the world. maybe the best video in the world!
The amount of work you guys put into these is incredible... Amazing work.
Very methodical yet fun test, I'm now subscribed to be on the lookout for the mid-grade test!
One of the best suspension contents on the internet period. I now know I will stick to my tacomas stock suspension and when needed, upgrade to the 5100s
thank you!
lolol
I wanna see the fox 2.5 performance elite shocks with the dsc adjusted to your settings! I’m running those on my taco and I love them.
this video came in clutch as i was looking to buy one of these shocks for my truck this week
Why no test on the performance elite?
Thank you guys for your honest reviews. Love the collaboration between both side of the border 🇨🇦 🇺🇸👍🏻👍🏻
This should have millions of views.
This was so entertaining at the expense of these guys backs.
Holy crap at Whoops section with the jump on Setup 6 thst got Squirrely real Quick 28:40 @Overland Outfitters
I wonder how the new ARB MT64 compares?
Such a great video. Excellent editing! Thank you for the content and I can hardly wait to see more!
Can you guys do the same tests on the Tacoma TRD Pro? I would like to see how it compares with all these shocks.
Get subscribed, as we test TRD pro shocks in our mid-budget test coming this fall!
Loved the video! Did you guys use the stock rear leaf springs for all the shocks? One thing to consider is that some of the aftermarket shocks (I.E. OME) may be valved assuming they will be paired with the corresponding leaf springs. That could potentially explain the sketchiness of the OME rear shocks if they are tuned with excessive rebound dampening when paired with the stock leafs.
They said they just threw on add a leafs.
I really enjoyed the technical real world performance and comments and comedy thrown in. I’ve had 5100s on a Tundra and loved them. Using some 2.5 Radflo Coilovers now on my long travel desert truck and love those too. Good stuff guys!
THIS IS HANDS DOWN MY NEW FAV YT VIDEO! Holy hell these guys are great!
I want to get a new suspension just to hang out with these dudes.
Sooo funny - SUB’d
Wow such different results than my own. The Dobinsons are way more plush than any Bilsteins i have ran on my 18 Tacoma. They didn’t say how much preload they were running or what position on the circlips which plays a big part.
Yea I was so confused by this. Dobinsons are by and large more preferred over 5100s for their relative plushness.
I have Dobinsons IMS on my 4Runner and in all aspects huge improvement over the factory XREAS suspension imo, on and off road. Less body roll, not too firm, off road I feel planted, I do mostly beach driving, the beach can be rough in terms of terrain, not all smooth sand many dips and precious tire tracks.
That's a bizarre result for dobs, did they spec the wrong springs and/or preload them way too much?
@@rossipremier sometimes the unbiased truth is hard to accept haha. I highly doubt these 2 very knowledgeable guys would've ran the wrong spring and/or preloaded them "way too much"
Wow - great test! The guys in my local 4WP store recommended Bilstein as a little better than Fox, especially considering the price difference, so they were definitely right. Kinda surprised that the Eibachs weren't better since their springs are usually highly rated.
thank for this! big fan! enjoyed it. why was the 6112 not included?
They will be part of our mid budget series. Stay tuned!
@@OverlandOutfitters will you do the 5160s in the rear in junction with the 6112s?
What a very detailed and awesome job you guys did! Helped me a lot! Definitely earned my subscription! Do you guys have any review or experience on the Fox 2.0? Specially the one that offers 3" lift?
Love this series, keep it up guys! Would love to see ADS in a future test too!!
What spring weight did you go with in the dobi’s.
What springs are you running for the 5100s?
I went from a spacer lift on stock Hitachi's to the Eibachs, and the difference is incredible. I'm a little bummed they weren't considered as good as the Bilsteins though. One day I hope to try super expensive shocks for a comparison.
Had those on my 4Runner and seemed like the springs just needed to break in a little bit.
It wasn't mentioned in the video I think but we're all the same spring rates used and we're they all the same as the stock rate?
It looks like aftermarket springs were used on each shock but would nice to confirm that.
Thanks! Great series to watch!
I think each comes with the factory recommended spring. I know that Bilstein tests and configures for each vehicle they have a kit for.
Great job! Would be great to see the Fox TrdPro bypass shocks in a future test of more expensive shocks.
Coming soon 😉🫡
Im curious as well, but ive got the Tundra version that Ive had serviced but havent installed yet.
Buy once and cry once. I bought Kings stage 4A from AccuTune and zero regrets. If you can afford it then getr done. If you can't then you will still have fun with lower quality ones don't worry. I had fun with my stock bilstein 4600s on Tacoma TRD Off road
How much of a lift did that give?
I'm looking for a similar set up for my 4runner
@@gabboGABBOGABBOOO with 2.75 is what they recommend with 33s it ends up being 3 Inch lift
Best suspension video I’ve seen definitely buying and supporting y’all keep it up you guys are killing it!!! 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
This is super useful for a lot of buyers!!!
I've had the fox 2.5s and was not impressed until I had them revealed. They should be better out of the box. Weirdly the fox 2.0s we're quite good and plush feeling on my Tundra, but very harsh on a 4Runner. It's like the vehicle formula they're using for the midsize segment is based on a 3000kg vehicle.
Thanks again!! Great content.
I’m curious what springs the 5100s are paired with.
The ending was amazing 😂
Would like to see the Ironman foam cell pros on here. Awesome work!
I got bilstein 5100s on my truck with coils from all dogs off-road and they have been great i hear a lot of people hating on them but they do the job on and off road very well for me. And i do wheel them hard quite a bit and ive been nothing but impressed especially with the the price too.
Sounds about right. I have 5100 with eibach pro truck coils on my gx470. The eibach springs are pretty supple and the bilstein wrangles em in. The 5100 s weakness are stiff slow speed damping like on bad city streets you feel the little bumps and on rock crawl they will toss your head side to side. I did pair mine with sumo springs bumpstops on all courners when the digressive valving falls off. I haven’t experienced topping out yet but i will probably get a limiting strap as extra insurance
This is great. Can we get some 6112, fox 2.0, and Radflo 2.0 in the future?
What do you think about durobumps bump stops?
Appreciate the freedom unit conversion. Thanks!
What springs were paired with the 5100s?
Ian said stock springs above.
Did the spacer use bilstein 4600 shocks? they are supposedly valved the same or very similar as 5100s so did the spacer through off the geometry to make them perform worse?
That's what I was wondering as well. Internally there's no difference between the stock (TRD?) 4600 shocks and 5100s, except the shim stacks each uses. Both are digressive as well.
Wait. Am I missing something. Is that Kaz from IFHT ……? (I’m only 1:01 into the video)
That's him! You may also recognize Ollie Jones, and I (Braeden) have been in a couple IFHT videos myself. We are all close friends
Everyone says 5100’s are rough, I loved mine. Smooth, no issues on or off road for over landing purposes. But also did JBA upper control arms. I’d love to see this style test with stock UCA and after market UCA, it’s gotta make a difference
Finally a much awaited honest comparison video .. thank you so much guys ❤❤❤
This was awesome!
Lots of work put into to this and was very insightful. Love how it was blind testing. 👍🏼
Well done guys ! I know it was a lot of work .....I have eibach stage 1 on my 24 4runner. small bump compliance on road isnt to good . Higher speed small bump off road is much better
I'm dying here with the shocks. BTW the best testing I have seen and i have tried a few and just went with Bilstein res on my Gladiator .
In the mid budget video are the 6112’s gonna be paired with 5160’s?
Interesting. I think those Blistings are stock on 2020 Tundra Sports.
The final reveal was shockingly hilarious! Great work and thanks for both the honest comparisons and entertainment. Looking forward to the next blind test.
Do you think the preload collar or the top spacer was the biggest contributor to the Westscott kit's poor performance?
I wonder if the truck was loaded down with bumpers and sliders and winch if it would make a difference
Would have loved to have seen the stock TRD Pro Fox suspension in the mix here. Great video!
coming up in the mid budget shootout! get subscribed if you aren't!
As I am watching, the first thing I want to comment about is that I love that more and more car related channels are using the metric system 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 bravo
Why run this test with the swaybar while last year’s was done without the swaybar?
We find that most people who run budget shocks tend to keep the swaybar. Also there was lots of feedback last year saying that we should have kept it. Finally, these shocks are tuned around having a swaybar, so it's the fairest way to test them
@@OverlandOutfitters^^^^this all day
Instant sub! Nice work, I have the 5100s like everyone else on the planet and they ride way harder than they should.
Aren't most of these aftermarket shocks even in their lower-weight "stock" versions intended for overlanders with some additional weight day-to-day? (Bumpers, winch etc even if not loaded down) I'd be curious to see the same test with a couple hundred extra kilos in the back and a steel bumper on the front.
Would love to see a comparisons video on that road for the bilstein 5100 vs 6112's
Can’t wait for the video with the Dobinsons MRR, considering adjustable suspensions how much time will be spent adjusting LSC, HSC, and dampening prior to testing?
The one question that I do have that I don't believe was mentioned is how is the lift being achieved on the Bilstein 5100? It looks like this might be a lift spring like an OME 885?
Looks like they used stock spring in 5100. See red and gray markings on the coil at @4:58
Amazing video! Just one doubt what coils did you use with the bilstein shocks? Thanks a lot
What add a leaf was it paired to?
Fantastic shock show! Can't wait the Mid Tier comparison show. When doing Mid Tier comparison, please indicate which setting/groove you put them in. Or, is it even possible to try different settings on the same shocks? As an example, after so much research through RUclips and forums, my understanding is Bilstein 6112 and Eibach Pro stiffness changes quite a lot depending on groove you set them in. Thanks so much.
I know this is the budget test, but I think a lot of us want a fox 2.5 pes, king 2.5, dobinson mrr, new ride shocks, icon with resi and have them tuned for the Tacoma if people you would buy from offer that (ex: accutune).
Also would be interesting to see these with various lbs of weight added as well.
We did a higher budget test last year with king, fox, icon, elka and bilstein, but we'd be down to do it again if there's enough stoke on this video and our mid budget one coming up!
@@OverlandOutfitters tuning is the important part!
Awesome video! Had the 6112 on my 4runner and leaning towards that setup on my GX460, any updates on when that video will be coming out, super pumped to see it!
what are the springs on the 5100?
Awesome video! I’m curious, what tire pressure were you all running? And tire size? I’m new to off road shenanigans, so just trying to learn.
Awesome job guys. Enjoyed this video very much. It was hilarious. 38 minute video didnt seem long at all with all the laughs. Keep up the good work. 😂👍