I think it's absolutely beautiful that there is no animosity between him and his ex-wife, and she's absolutely devoted to him as a friend and she actually walked him down.The aisle when he was married to his husband
What a wonderful story. Penny - such a strong woman with integrity and compassion and so glad it ended as it did. Common sense always prevails when people open up and be mature and sensible. Lovely situation.
What an amazing love story..I totally relate to this..Penny is such an incredible person..she inspires me to be a better person..I hope Penny finds someone who is deserving of her integrity, beauty and grace..wonderful that Ivor is now able to be his true authentic self..wonderful how they figured it all out as a loving family 🙏
@@christinecodling3586 No, that was Penelope Knatchbull (nee Eastwood) wife of Norton Knatchbull 3rd Earl Mountbatten of Burma, whereas this Penny was Penelope Anne Vere Thompson before she married Ivar Mountbatten. He descends from the 3rd Marquess of Milford Haven. Same family but 2 completely separate branches.
What a mature way all three of them have acted. Their family is loving towards the men which is very important these days. I take my hat off to them for caring about how the children would react. With so many marriages ending with bitterness & hate, this family have become a quite normal family that has nothing but love for all involved.
It made me check Ivar's age when he referred to attitudes of "my generation" - he's 10 years younger than I...and I've been out since the early '70s LOL
He's 6 years younger than me and I have been out since my late teens. I think it's more to do with the society/people around you and how they might (or might not) accept it.
The upper classes live in a completely different reality to the rest of us. I'm 33 and recently met a 37 y/o posh gay guy who'd just come out and who kept talking about how "our generation is so much more closed off and secretive than the younger generation when it comes to sexuality". I think I melted his brain when I told him I'd been out since I was 15.
I am 61 there is no way that I could have been closeted. I never wanted to be straight married with children or to serve in the armed services. What people bullied me for I accepted in myself. It was difficult growing up.
That's lovely. So glad that it's accepted by so many now. Tbh, I really no longer see a stigma, where once there had been. Congratulations to you all for being such wonderful human beings ❤️
Easier said than done. It's difficult to have to let go the one you fell in love with. Lady Penelope - Penny - is truly a lady. A strong, beautiful, compassionate and open-minded being. And their kids are lucky. Surely, he will love her for the rest of his life.
As long as everyone is happy with the outcome and and seems to have turned out amicably that’s all that matters. Both seem to see lovely people. Penny is a very attractive Lady 😊
His grandmother Nadejda Mountbatten was the rumored lesbian lover of Gloria Vanderbilt's mom Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt. This lesbian relationship was one reason why Gloria's mom loss custody of her in the 1930s. I'm mentioning this because I thought it's interesting that the grandsons of the rumored lesbian lovers Nadejda Mountbatten and Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt are both gay. Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt's grandson Anderson Cooper is also gay.
This story is set in a similar time frame to mine and in some ways a parallel, although I am a woman. As it is also the elite of society yet the attitudes also parallel mine regarding disapproval and denial! That one wouldn't hide or deny being gay or bi generally today is one of the ways society has progressed at least.
@@adrianlightfoot7341 I take it you live in the UK?Just google it mate, Louis Mountabatten was a well known paedophile. The FBI released files on him but they are subject to 100 year censorship rule in the UK. Easily verifiable elsewhere. The IRA issued him with a warning about associating with young boys in Ireland.
I would very much rather see a film about Uncle Dickie and the vile crimes that so many people say he committed, especially in India and Ireland. This other stuff is trying to draw sympathy for the Mount batten s. Fkng rediculouse. I hope India gets their way and has the mount batten papers released, something they have been fighting for for years and wich we, the British public rarely hear anything about.
I just cannot imagine if my former husband had announced he was gay. Duping in the extreme! Why do men get off with duality? Sometimes, and more usually, its another woman !!! A missing link IMO.
This is the most wonderful heart warming story. So inspirational, Penny you are a guardian Angel 💝 Boys you are gorgeous and I love your tenacity and courage. 🙂💝😍XX
do not generalize ,he is not gay bisexual even if with a more attraction toward one gender ! he could sway between two sexes .. the one that cannot sway is gay well thins can be accepted in VIP families not in a coal mine worker family financial interest are different social position too and the 3 found their cruise speed together
The number of deciding elements in the matrix of the human body and mind of one individual, are so vast that evolution must result in diversity of characteristics and outcome. There ae mules and worker bees and ants and other resulting characteristics and personalities, but they may be a " temporary nature and a short term" role, It appears that for long sustainability of the human species as we know it, the most important is a woman mother sired by a man. Many characteristics many be natural as children being born without limbs, but a woman mother who produces other men and women who produce other men and women seem to be the recipe for long term sustainability of the human race, Meanwhile, mules and worker bees are also useful, and should be fed and cared for, but the Queen bee or a woman mother is most the important, and it deserves the highest care and respect. Most developed countries have neglected the respect for women mothers and now need to import them from other countries while the " educated members" will be useful as mules and worker bees. All is natural, but with a stunning difference that many fail to see the importance of such a difference. .
Still difficult to verbalise how strange it is for most straight men to see two men together, as aware as they are that no-one should give a shit either way really.
@Romanov Obsessed I understand that. I told my daughter about men loving men, and women loving women, when she was 4. She fully accepted it. We were walking through a park in Amsterdam (Holland) with a friend who was visiting us from Ireland. She pointed to a couple of young women, who were kissing as they sat ilon the grass, saying "do they need to do that in public?" My then 7 year old said "they are lesbian and love one another". Friend's face was so funny to watch. She was so taken aback that a little girl knew about that. I was extremely proud of my daughter.
@@elizagrogan9454 so important for juniors to have your daughters midset early doors, means they not only accept it but will actively protect it, like she did. The last generation of mens fear of male homosexuality will hopefully die out with us that were unconsciously taught it. God only knows the torture of men trying to bury their real selves so can be percieved as 'real' men by society. God only knows what it's like to be gay in some unnamed countries or cultures.
He didn’t lie - he told her before they were married and she married him. It’s worked for all three and they are a family and they seem happier than most couples. They all seem happy and content.
I think it's absolutely beautiful that there is no animosity between him and his ex-wife, and she's absolutely devoted to him as a friend and she actually walked him down.The aisle when he was married to his husband
Kudos to the ex wife, she seems very open-minded and accepting. They seem like a lovely family unit collectively and they all seem to be very happy. ❤
Isn't it lovely when people can just be themselves?
What a wonderful story. Penny - such a strong woman with integrity and compassion and so glad it ended as it did. Common sense always prevails when people open up and be mature and sensible. Lovely situation.
Such an incredible story and that woman is so supportive, truly remarkable
I’ve worked with James and he’s one of the most kindest loveliest men. ❤❤❤
What an amazing love story..I totally relate to this..Penny is such an incredible person..she inspires me to be a better person..I hope Penny finds someone who is deserving of her integrity, beauty and grace..wonderful that Ivor is now able to be his true authentic self..wonderful how they figured it all out as a loving family 🙏
Wasn't Penny Prince Philips special friend who lived at Wood Farm
@@christinecodling3586 No, that was Penelope Knatchbull (nee Eastwood) wife of Norton Knatchbull 3rd Earl Mountbatten of Burma, whereas this Penny was Penelope Anne Vere Thompson before she married Ivar Mountbatten. He descends from the 3rd Marquess of Milford Haven. Same family but 2 completely separate branches.
@@lizaaldridge6291 Sorry so many Penny's. She looked a lot like her though
@@christinecodling3586 I agree, they're quite similar looking!
His wife is a very amazing and special human being. What a great attitude.
What a mature way all three of them have acted. Their family is loving towards the men which is very important these days. I take my hat off to them for caring about how the children would react. With so many marriages ending with bitterness & hate, this family have become a quite normal family that has nothing but love for all involved.
It made me check Ivar's age when he referred to attitudes of "my generation" - he's 10 years younger than I...and I've been out since the early '70s LOL
He's 6 years younger than me and I have been out since my late teens. I think it's more to do with the society/people around you and how they might (or might not) accept it.
Yes, I found that moving out of a highly religious life setting" into the post hippy" society in 70s was like a different planet re gay/bi attitudes.
The upper classes live in a completely different reality to the rest of us. I'm 33 and recently met a 37 y/o posh gay guy who'd just come out and who kept talking about how "our generation is so much more closed off and secretive than the younger generation when it comes to sexuality". I think I melted his brain when I told him I'd been out since I was 15.
I am 61 there is no way that I could have been closeted. I never wanted to be straight married with children or to serve in the armed services. What people bullied me for I accepted in myself. It was difficult growing up.
That's lovely. So glad that it's accepted by so many now. Tbh, I really no longer see a stigma, where once there had been. Congratulations to you all for being such wonderful human beings ❤️
No stigma except when you thing about the gross things they do to each other. Sick people!
Easier said than done. It's difficult to have to let go the one you fell in love with. Lady Penelope - Penny - is truly a lady. A strong, beautiful, compassionate and open-minded being. And their kids are lucky. Surely, he will love her for the rest of his life.
This is lovely... what a beautiful love story.. by that I mean the whole family is just love ❤❤❤
As long as everyone is happy with the outcome and and seems to have turned out amicably that’s all that matters. Both seem to see lovely people. Penny is a very attractive Lady 😊
She said that he was having affairs and she just had to swallow it Ugh
I know, there is nothing OK about this.
Life’s complicated glad it’s working out for all
what a truly amazing story....
His grandmother Nadejda Mountbatten was the rumored lesbian lover of Gloria Vanderbilt's mom Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt. This lesbian relationship was one reason why Gloria's mom loss custody of her in the 1930s. I'm mentioning this because I thought it's interesting that the grandsons of the rumored lesbian lovers Nadejda Mountbatten and Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt are both gay. Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt's grandson Anderson Cooper is also gay.
Now that’s some piping hot ☕️! Very interesting.❤
He looks like one of the past Royals including the Tsar.
'She was very helpful all round'...
What an incredible woman.
This story is set in a similar time frame to mine and in some ways a parallel, although I am a woman. As it is also the elite of society yet the attitudes also parallel mine regarding disapproval and denial! That one wouldn't hide or deny being gay or bi generally today is one of the ways society has progressed at least.
in hight social class being bi gay or other is not a problem in lower social classes is a drama
This reminds me of phillip schofield lol
I would love to meet a Royal, Fall in Love, Marry and Live happily ever after. xxoxo
Louis Mountbatten was an iffy character, according to the IRA
According to the IRA. seriously 😢
@@adrianlightfoot7341 I take it you live in the UK?Just google it mate, Louis Mountabatten was a well known paedophile. The FBI released files on him but they are subject to 100 year censorship rule in the UK. Easily verifiable elsewhere. The IRA issued him with a warning about associating with young boys in Ireland.
I would very much rather see a film about Uncle Dickie and the vile crimes that so many people say he committed, especially in India and Ireland. This other stuff is trying to draw sympathy for the Mount batten s. Fkng rediculouse. I hope India gets their way and has the mount batten papers released, something they have been fighting for for years and wich we, the British public rarely hear anything about.
Modern family ❤
Sadly
I'm quite surprised that Ivar Mountbatten have Peruvian heritage, he doesn't look like a Peruvian man
Interesting that this is allowed by the Crown.
I just cannot imagine if my former husband had announced he was gay.
Duping in the extreme!
Why do men get off with duality?
Sometimes, and more usually, its another woman !!!
A missing link IMO.
I suppose she just has to accept it just to stay sane. Really feel for the kids.
How beautiful.
How lovely!
A modern family,yes they are!!
Isn’t that woman just the most special person ever! Also, I just love how much of a modern family they’ve become.
This is the most wonderful heart warming story. So inspirational, Penny you are a guardian Angel 💝 Boys you are gorgeous and I love your tenacity and courage. 🙂💝😍XX
Louis was batty too
Leave him alone please
Great
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do not generalize ,he is not gay bisexual even if with a more attraction toward one gender !
he could sway between two sexes .. the one that cannot sway is gay
well thins can be accepted in VIP families not in a coal mine worker family
financial interest are different social position too
and the 3 found their cruise speed together
The number of deciding elements in the matrix of the human body and mind of one individual, are so vast that evolution must result in diversity of characteristics and outcome. There ae mules and worker bees and ants and other resulting characteristics and personalities, but they may be a " temporary nature and a short term" role, It appears that for long sustainability of the human species as we know it, the most important is a woman mother sired by a man. Many characteristics many be natural as children being born without limbs, but a woman mother who produces other men and women who produce other men and women seem to be the recipe for long term sustainability of the human race, Meanwhile, mules and worker bees are also useful, and should be fed and cared for, but the Queen bee or a woman mother is most the important, and it deserves the highest care and respect. Most developed countries have neglected the respect for women mothers and now need to import them from other countries while the " educated members" will be useful as mules and worker bees. All is natural, but with a stunning difference that many fail to see the importance of such a difference. .
This is all so sad.
Still difficult to verbalise how strange it is for most straight men to see two men together, as aware as they are that no-one should give a shit either way really.
@Romanov Obsessed I understand that. I told my daughter about men loving men, and women loving women, when she was 4. She fully accepted it. We were walking through a park in Amsterdam (Holland) with a friend who was visiting us from Ireland. She pointed to a couple of young women, who were kissing as they sat ilon the grass, saying "do they need to do that in public?" My then 7 year old said "they are lesbian and love one another". Friend's face was so funny to watch. She was so taken aback that a little girl knew about that. I was extremely proud of my daughter.
@@elizagrogan9454 so important for juniors to have your daughters midset early doors, means they not only accept it but will actively protect it, like she did. The last generation of mens fear of male homosexuality will hopefully die out with us that were unconsciously taught it. God only knows the torture of men trying to bury their real selves so can be percieved as 'real' men by society.
God only knows what it's like to be gay in some unnamed countries or cultures.
Strange things are happening in this world
Very strange things my friend
@@BoskiM The ironic thing is this has always been going on but was always in the dark. It’s now out in the open that’s why it’s such a shock to people
All you can do is leave if you find out your partner is gay. There will b3 no friendship remember that person lied and lied!
He didn’t lie - he told her before they were married and she married him. It’s worked for all three and they are a family and they seem happier than most couples. They all seem happy and content.
@@sonofednawelthorpe8609 no she was bloody heartbroken.
@@kareencottell4405 He told her before they were married. - and she married him. Many people are bi - sexual.
I hope you're fighting hard for gay rights then because this is the inevitable result of homophobic societies.
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