How To Set Up A Fox Suspension Mountain Bike Fork | MTB Suspension Set Up
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The abundance of technical terms can seem overwhelming when it comes to setting up MTB suspension. Luckily, Doddy has had a lot of practice! So here's his guide on setting up you fox fork that will help you establish a good base setting and get you out riding ASAP!
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If you have any other little set up tips share them in the comments below!
Making the fork and shock work well together is also important
How about a how to setup for a manitou?
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cards. Handy set up tool and much smaller than a tape measure. Easy to check your setting on trail.
Hi Doddy, do you still have yours from Sea Otter?
Always heard that LSC and HSC should be always fully open...
One reason for it if you have your sag perfect with the air and the token you should not even have to twist that LSC or HSC...
I'm confused cos I got a pike Ultimate and on big drop jump my fork feel great using all the travel but never bottom out! When I start twisting those HSC LSC I see absolutely no difference... So it's always open... Not really too geeky about it either
is 6 spacer on the 36 2019 and could I fit more ps 160 travel 29 boost
Thank you for the upload.
I'm just having a bad day. I hope everyone is having a better day.
We need more Doddys in the world.
Gorgeous kitty 😻
Hope your day gets better, and thanks for all the support. We need more cats in this world
Hope you feel better 🙏
I have a question, i have LTHT ( BC podsol, not extreme -pretyy simulair geo to a canyon stoic) with fox 34 140mm fit4 (brand new). I feel like i have to go lower on the pressure to get desired feeling effects. Sag tells me the same I'm at 80-90psi. Fox suggests 96 at my weight. Could this be due the frame geometry? Or maybe because i'm in the netherlands.
Really????? How to for FOX! Just send them to Fox themself and let them watch these Series. What we need is how to set up RockShox Front and rear because there is a big lack if missing information for Setups... even with the trailhead site.
We'll add it to the list Finch
Aaaaay virst comment
At 6:15, you turned the fork compression counter clockwise but turned the red rebound knob below clockwise. Aren’t you supposed to turn both compression and rebound knobs counter clockwise? Thanks.
Suspension setup is a dark art. Knowing what each dial does is very important, but it's only half of the problem. Having them working together in harmony is way more complicated for me
It takes a while to learn and often it can be hard to get it right unless you put the time in to *feel* how it changes the ride
@@gmbntech indeed, need to just find the right piece of trail doing multiple rides back to back with different settings to really tune the setup. Thank you for all your videos to help with this wonderful hobby / sport
Yes...When you don't read the manual provided.
Man I love this channel. You have helped me so much. Thank You!
I agree 👍
Great info! Which way is fully closed - or +?
Fully closed, is the same as when you have it fully clockwisw
*clockwise
Every one of these shock setup videos is made confusing by the fact that "rebound" and "compression" are used to describe "rebound damping" and "compression damping." It is not helpful to say "if you are heavier, with more air volume in your spring, you will need more rebound." No. No. No. You will have more rebound from the stronger spring, therefore, you will need more rebound DAMPING.
I'm not sure if the "gurus" doing these videos actually realize this or not. Perhaps, they are simply used to talking in abbreviated language. But, it is not helpful for people who need help with this stuff.
Great Video and thank you. Marzocchi brand is also part of the fox fork line I think.
Marzocchi is owned by fox, similar internals and quality, just different features for a lower price :)
Thanks Joseph and yes they are, just a few different features on Marzocchi
Another great tutorial from Doddy. I also run minimal compression and add volume spacers as necessary. This makes it feel more connected to the ground and then still able to take a heavy impact when needed. Although I already understood this process, I still watched all of it just to make sure I hadn't forgotten anything. Keep the great tutorials coming!
the video should have explained how to set 'fully closed' is that with the dial set to fully clockwise or fully anti-clockwise?
fully closed is fully turned clockwise
Does closed means fully counterclockwise (-) fast as done before measuring sag? Or going the other way clockwise (+) to the maximum? A little confused here, if you could help a buddy out. Thanks!
Closed is fully clockwise, picture it as doing up a lid on a bottle, all the way clockwise, bottle is closed.
hy sir ,,from fully close if my fork fox float ctd 32 140 mm travel,,what you mean is full speed rebound or full slow rebound? thanks
Great Video Doddy,. It would be nice if you could do a review on the Z2 from marzocchi
After not really been mtbiking much for almost 20 years, having been on the dark roadie side of cycling, I finally get my new Mountain Bike with a Fox fork to setup next week! I even got some baggy cloths, Flat pedals and knee pads to look the part (don’t want to be the Lycra guy😂). Thanks for the setup tips! Can’t wait!
Thank u so much, I have scott scale 940 with fox float 29's 100mm travel, and this helped
You're very welcome! Glad we could help
Great general setup video and thank you for also mentioning the GRIP and FIT versions - many tuning videos only seem to focus on the highest end model. One thing, however, you did not mention equalizing the negative air spring when changing out the volume spacers or if you should happen to let all of the air out of the fork.
Red Rebound. Cyan Compression.
Hi is it bad to lower the recommend air pressure if you are not using the full travel?
I wonder the same thing.
Great video, really helped! You guys should make a video like this but with a fox DHX2 as I know it’s a quite confusing process.
Yoo, Dodson ma man. How 'bout you make a video on the different types of rear suspension and possibly get some of them bikes that are out there on the market with the more unique linkage designs, like Propain's or Evil's( off the top of my head). I really doubt your sponsors will allow you to showcase other brands but I'll suggest it anyway.
What's fully closed? + or -?
I have a DT Swiss fork, someone explain why I'm watching this 😂
Awesome review. Everything got covered - all pieces of info that I`ve been collecting here and there over youtube - is gathered here.
Thanks a lot and "Hi" from Ukraine ).
Listening to this educate me but also makes me glad I work in construction and we know ways around everything so I’m sure if I ever ran into a situation where something got rounded we could easily incompetently remove that lower part about causing any further damage
#GMBNTech Followed your advice in an old video and purchased the Epic Bleed Solutions wrench. They work FANTASTIC and far less expensive than the specific sockets. Thanks again Doddy!
Thank you so much, had such trouble with arm pump because i had waaay to much rebound on all the time. My dealer didn‘t explain it to me and had it look up by myself.
I'm trying to set up my grip 2 where smooth over chatter and take big hits. I think I'm close then I fly over roots or braking bumps and get jarred, then I have to wait a while before I get to ride again. The process for me takes a long time with not riding all the time.
I stupidly checked the psi of my fork. I released some air. Now I cannot get tyhr fork to return to original height. So silly. Any ideas?
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
When setting up rebound, fully closed means the dial is set to 'fast' ?
No. Fully closed means you’ve wound it in all the way tight and essentially closed the valve. All the way to the right (righty tighty) then count the clicks as you un wind it. If you get confused with dials at the bottom of the fork try turning the wheel until your tyre valve is at the top then unscrew and tighten the valve cap...
Is there a reason to not just leave the shock pump on while setting and checking and adjusting sag? Seems tedious to remove and install over and over.
3 yrs later Fox has concluded that nah, you don't need all that tunability.
Oh and sram is switching to mineral oil 😂
So, less dampening equals faster rebound?
Thanks for this! Ive been riding that nukeproof you have in the video for a few weeks now and love the fox factory suspension after finally dialing it in! Cheers from the USA.
Should the rebound be set to fully fast or fully slow?
As always, another excellent video from Doddy, king of the MTB tech! :)
Why do you use 140/100 x 20 for sag? Just do 140 x .2
You had mentioned for your weight of 89kg that Fox recommends 5 clicks of HS compression and 10 clicks of LS compression. Are those numbers reversed? Fox seems to recommend 10 clicks of HS and 6 clicks of LS to start out. I couldn't find any info about recommended compression by weight. Thanks!
counterclockwise is full closed??
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I have a fox 34 performance 150mm travel GRIP dampener and I run about 102 psi and my rebound doesn’t work it clicks but I cant feel the difference
I find it very weird that nobody are talking about preload. Given airpressure = springrate, that must mean that amount of air must equal preload. This means that tokens/volume spacers are your preload adjusters. It would be very good if they would just call them preload tokens which to me at least is a way better term.
Great video, but i have problem, im using fox 36 160mm RC2, after i ride my bike and i get off the bike the fork didnt return to 160mm, and only return to 150mm. Im using 20% sag, can you help me please? Btw im from Indonesia🇮🇩. Thank u
Do I have fox? No, I have rockshox….. but like, I’m bored. Why not watch it lol
Wish this was done last week, just fitted a fox 38, 160mm travel, running six(max) volume spacers @ 140psi(max) 18%sag LSR 4 clicks HSR 5 clicks LSD 8 clicks HSD 5 clicks.
Feels great but would like.it to be a bit more poppy on the low speed for jumping on the trails, more shakedown runs needed
great video! I recently got a 2019er giant trance 2 29" with 130mm 34 fox rhythm and maestro 115 fox dps which I'm tinkering with... when set to my weight + gear (65kg) and riding a (smallish) jump/drop i got the feeling that especially the rear uses nearly all travel. would you rather recommend to pump it up for light bikepark, set it on the middle setting or put some spacers in? cheers & ride in 🤙🏼
I was curious , what's a decent price on pre-owned fox 34 Factory 29. 140 . Recently come across on local classifieds. Thank you
I’ve found that I’ve followed the steps, and I’m up to 120psi and still not at the correct sag. I’m on about 40mm and I need to be at 30mm. Should I put spacers in or take them out? My brain has collapsed 🥺
Got the same forks but for 27.5. Used the recommended settings from fox with 2 extra volume tokens. Keep getting numb hands though (feels like major chatter from the trail) no matter what I adjust. I've got a shockwiz connected to help but still the same outcome.
Hello i knkw this is not part of the topic but just like to know where did you get your mudguard/front fenders? Newbie here. Sorry for asking, thanks.
You can also just multiply 140(travel) by .20(20%).
Great info, thanks. Now I'll search for the corresponding shock video
Thank you, very helpful.
Which Mudguard is it on that Bike?
The little cover piece you have to unscrew in order to access the valve in the shock has been tightened down by the silverback gorillas at the specialized dealer I got my bike from. Now I cant tune my forks unless I drive back to those morons
Question regarding rider weight: Setting SAG we are encouraged to do with all the gear on. Then when Doddy reads the chart on the fork to set the rebound and compression he refers to his own weight. I assume in supposed to interpret "rider weight" as fully geared up? With water, tools, protection and clothes accounted for I add about 6-7kg to my weight.
The quickest way to setup a Fox suspension fork is to take it out of your bike and replace it for another one without marketing BS claims like Kashima coating.
Hi, my rebound adjuster is seized. Is there anything I can do to fix it. My rebound adjuster is on top of the work in red.
since Marzocchi is a sub-company of Fox, would this video work mostly with marzocchi forks too?
dude the clicks goes from fully close (fully turn to counterclock) to open...
I have spring forks. There are 2 dials, one rebound and one preload. do I turn it towards - to make the fork quicker for jumping It is hard to find out
Oarsome mate! You saved me a headache. 10thousand thanks you coming your way bro!
Every youtuber starts with Spring in suspension, and end up talking about adjusting the Air version of suspension only...
When are we going to learn about the normal spring suspension adjustment?
Say... the metal rings on the tube's rubber seals... what happens if they were cut?
Hi Doddy i have just bought a brand new bike and i have everything set up on it the way i like the only thing i have to do is set up the suspension this video was great but has literally put me off even attempting to do it cheers hahaa
For rebound, fully closed is the slowest rebound settings for Fox - isn't it? So on 6:14, you were turning in the wrong direction to close the LSR?
Great video I noticed in the video all the tools that are on the wall where is the best place to buy tools that are Made just for Mountain Bikes
Which direction is fully closed?? all the way to the plus side or all the way to the minus side?
clockwise and anti clockwise depends how you look at the fork... every video Ive seem its a different direction at least with plus and minus there is a sticker telling you the right direction
#askgmbntech why do mtb forks have the compression and rebound in the same leg? Dirt bike forks have compression in one side and rebound in the other, so why not mountain bikes?
How do you fully close the rebound? All the way to the left or to the right?
#askgmbntech #askgmbn @gmbntech Hi, Doddy. I have a question about the suspension. I have noticed that my fork loses air after every ride. Can this mean that it is time for a service?
Did you mention the bleed valves on the back of the fork?
I have just got some 36e forks for my cube and find all the tutorials brilliant. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks for a super nice video! I really struggle to understand the difference in using the lever to make the suspension mor firm or add more air pressure e.g. if i set correct sag in “open” mode, what would be the difference in turning the lever towards firm or add more air pressure? Thanks!
Great video Doddy. Did you build your SB100, I thought i recognized that Yeti Blue? Do you have a video on changing out a brake line? My front brake line has a small cut on the outer layer, it still has pressure but I think it should be replaced. Thank you!
I think you should have mentioned to let all the air out before removing the top cap!! There’s numpties out there you know🤔
My fox rythm 36 valve cover piece on the top left fork is like melted into the frickin threads I can't get if off nomatter what.
great video! I recently got a 2019er giant trance 2 29" with 130mm 34 fox rhythm and maestro 115 fox dps which I'm tinkering with... when set to my weight + gear (65kg) and riding a (smallish) jump/drop i got the feeling that especially the rear uses nearly all travel. would you rather recommend to pump it up for light bikepark, set it on the middle setting or put some spacers in? cheers & ride in 🤙🏼
You can just multiply by .2 to get 20% of a number.
Blake's airspring in forks is actually bottomless tokens instead of air ;-p
GMBN is the best bikes vlog. Where did you bought your mud guard?
Thanks for the information. What brand pants did you have in the riding video? I like that the ankles are slim the winter pants i bought are slack and i have to wrap them up.
Great video as usual. Well you be doing the accompanying Fox shock one?
@gmbntech can you do a ohlins fork next please
Love that brown fox! At last a fork that's not black, red, grey or orange. The blue helm, is also great.
I just baught some new front forks for my bike but each time I lift the front wheel it makes an awful clunk how do I fix this
I'm very appreciated for this video. Helped me out thanks
Can u make a video on cheap popular mountain bikes like the Carrera vengence for example
Excellent info. I wasn't aware of the duel dials.
What is your experience with a Shockwiz.
Great video. Just to confirm that I have all of the dials fully undone to set the sag
when i am riding my bike the ring around the shock is pushed right to the bottem off the shock does that mean i need more air or spacers ?
My fork has no code or table, and talas 120 - 160 on top left of fork, not just a cap to take off?
Rockshox VS Fox. Which one's better?
how do i know if i need to put spacers in the shock ? and whats the purpose off doing it ?
Anyone know what mudguard that is?
Love all your videos there so informative and so helpful especially just getting back into riding and all the changes after 10 years
thanks doddy I just got a new trek remedy 8 this video really helped alot