Fox GRIP2 Setup Guide & Benefits
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- *TYPO ALERT - at 17:05 I show the compression adjustments. Welp, total brain fart and I don't even know how I messed that up, but those numbers are completely off. A little less sugar for me while I'm editing...
LSC = 12 clicks
HSC = 16 clicks
My bad :)
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I've received a ton of requests for this video, so I took some time on the trails with my Fox 36 GRIP2 fork, which has been my favorite fork I've ever owned.
In this video I cover the benefits of the GRIP2 damper plus a complete in-depth setup guide with tips and tricks to getting your damper dialed!
Air Pressure & Sag - 3:02 / High Speed vs Low Speed Impacts - 7:11 / Rebound - 9:12 / Compression - 16:39 / Progression - 21:54
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I've been riding bikes and motorcycles for years and have a solid understanding of how a suspension works. My brother sent me this link and told me to check it out, you couldn't have done a better job explaining everything. PERFECT. Keep up the good work, and don't feel afraid to make long videos if you keep this detailed content!
Yeah, I have watched this video about 5-6 times now. This video is incredibly well done. I was a little nervous when I first bought my new forks because of all the adjustments, but this video completely put me at ease and I thought "OK this is totally workable." Keep on rockin Lost Co.!
Can you do this same type of "how to" for the X2 shock? Lol
It’s pretty similar
Super overview with real world application. Thanks! It's amazing how little of these 'tutorials' there are considering how much of a black art this appears to be and how big the impacts are.
Killer video to outline not only what each setting does as it relates to the fork, but also demonstrating them on the trail.
One suggestion, have a downloadable table for print out of such complex forks. It would be sweet to have that on the trail while we dial in. This is sweet! Thanks for the passion you put into it.
Thats not a bad idea!! Glad the video was super helpful for you!
Thanks for this video. Probably the most useful guide on suspension setup I’ve seen on RUclips. Very clear explanation on how low/high speed rebound/compression afects your riding. Great stuff keep it up!
Thanks a ton Pedro! I'm so happy my video has helped a ton of people on the confusing topic of suspension knobs!
If you're really stoked on the video, make my day and buy me a coffee @ ko-fi.com/misterlostbikeshop . 👍
Mike & the Lost Co team, thank you for all your time/effort on putting together yet-another mind-blowing epic "ah-ha!" video (just as epic as your 1hr 'fork service' video)!! This approach is very practical and so different from all the conventional how-to videos & mfg manuals (ie. about how to push down for sag measure at 4:20), yet is so well-articulated on what's-for-what on trails that it all makes sense. I watched it a few times slowly with many pauses to fully understand, pre-set a baseline in my garage, then hit the trails today for micro-adjustments, and - voila! - my fork is like a completely different fork! Although I had taken my time to carefully dial in my current fork and happily settled as such for the past 2yrs, this is another new "high" with my same fork. To put it in dog analogy (LOL), I'd say my current fork was previously set like a "border collie" (always on the go-go-go) for the past 2yrs (I loved it), but now my fork is more like a "great dane" (tall/composed & reserved - so calm/quiet) thru gnar - and I love it!! Just after doing my fork oil change with the new seals I got from Lost Co over the weekend, this video was perfect timing to completely revisit my fork setup. Thanks again for this awesome in-depth tutorial!
This opened my mind up to the possibility of actually trying more sag/less pressure with my 36 170mm Grip 2 fork. I'd previously been between 15 and 20% sag. So, I added a second volume spacer and dropped pressure some for 25% sag and am about to do some test-n-tune today! I'm just shy of 200 lbs in gear and noticed by trying to set sag with your method of hanging above the bars, I'd be running a bunch more pressure to get 30% ish sag, closer to 1 psi per kg of body weight which seemed a bit much for my general application and trails. Thanks for sharing your methodology, Mike. Much appreciated 🤙
Thank you for posting this, I am coming off a Bronson with a Pike fork that I loved (bike burned in recent fires) and I updated to a Nomad with the Fox 36 fork and found the fork to be really harsh and the handling was not great at high speeds - was getting deflected a ton. I added 2 air tokens per your suggestion, backed off on High Speed Rebound and backed off on High Speed Compression and it helped a ton.
Great info, just got the 2020 36 180... I liked how concisely yet quickly you laid down the info, entertaining and informative!
Sick riding and trails too!
You just gave the best explanation on suspension setup I've ever heard.
Your sag setting technique blew my mind. Such a CRAZY good video
Just got a new bike with the Grip 2 damper and my first ride made me wonder if I'd made a mistake on the purchase. This gives me a lot of hope that it's just a setup thing. Coming from a Grip damper, I've always wanted more support in certain spots and corners in the open setting, and it sounds like this is a real possibility with the Grip 2. Thanks for the great video! Looking forward to fine tuning everything.
Dude! I literally set up my Factory 36 today and got it dialled in 4 laps thanks to this video! Thank you so much!!
When you reduce positive chamber volume you change the ratio between possitive and neg. chamber...that is why the sensitivity from the begining is better witkh tokens. Very good video!
Thanks, Mike! This video encouraged me to open up some of my settings a bit more and it really helped. I would love to see additional videos on setup and adjusting for different types of trails. I appreciate how you break it down and give examples.
Now to talk my wife into letting me take a week off of work so I can dial in my new fork! Thanks man. I will definitely be watching this again
If you manage that let us know how you did it! 😂 Have fun with the new fork! -Tor
Agree with sag, I did recommended 20% and it felt stiff, found around 30% to feel great!! I’m a heavy rider and went from reccomend 95psi to 75psi through a month of riding.
Brilliant videos! So many RUclips vids out there on bike maintenance but for some reason yours are on a level I can fully relate with. I’ve serviced my fork thanks to you and it feels amazing. And despite all the fiddling with my grip2 fork I still think I can further dial it in after watching this video. Please keep them coming!!
This was fantastic! I've been so confused about setting up my fork for a couple of years since I got it and this video was just soooo good! I've got it all dialled in now and loving it. Brilliant!
Heck yea man glad we could help you get stoked on your fork! 🤘 -Tor
Awesome video. just setting up my fox 36 Grip2 . very helpful keep up the good work!
Heck yeah! Any questions you run into, just let me know and I'll be happy to help! Suspension tuning can definitely be confusing, especially with so many knobs to turn haha.
This is the best fork setup video I have ever seen, excellent job!
Dude! You are THE coolest mtb on RUclips! Thank you so much for this and all the other videos on how to fine tune so many different parts of a bike. What about one like this on the new rear air shock? You’re reading this thinking “um it’s the same concept” lol. Thanks again man, btw I’m stoked for the new gear I was looking on the site last night hoping the shirts would be up haha
Huge thanks on the token recommendation, I kept taking air pressure out of my 180, it definitely is hard to get to the top of the compression! Excited to throw tokens in and tune it
How did this turn out for you. My Fox 36 came with no tokens and I can't get it to feel plush, I had no idea adding tokens might help until I watched this
What a brilliant video. I bought a fox 36 grip 2 as it was half price but had absolutely no idea how to set it up. Now I have the knowledge time to hit the trails and get popping
Who the hell would give this vid thumbs down? Awesome ... just a great vid.
I’m a year late but this is the most in depth and I sort of understand my years of confusion now
Speaking of liking suspension progression - riding linear Transition. Brilliant
That was the best explanation I have heard yet regarding setting up this fork. Liked, Subscribed, Bell Notification clicked. Well done. Might reach out to you about my 2016 Fox 36 Fork (160). I have never felt I got it dialed they way I wanted.
Great video. I have already learned most of what you say in the video but you teach it in a great way that’s fun to watch and supports my feelings. I am sharing your video with other Fox riders. Thank you
Great video. I am waiting for the delivery of my new Orbea Rallon which will be fitted with the new Grip2 fork (and the nbew Flost X2 shock). I'm new to MTB but I ride and used to race motorcycles (roadracing) and setting up suspension, aside from measurable sag, has always been a struggle for me. Being in California your examples in the video are perfect as I can apply my style with your different examples. My only advice that made a difference for me when explaining high speed and low speed differences, whether rebound or compression, would be that it refers to shaft speed. You do say it, maybe just revisit a couple times. Awesome video, saving it for when the bike shows up, which can not be soon enough.
Great tutorial man, exactly what I needed. Many thanks from Ireland. As other people have mentioned an X2 equivalent would be very welcome.
with shocks it is not that straight forward as you have different linkage designs.
What an awesome video! This explained everything that I've been wondering for years.
Fantastic video and great explanation of the fork young fella. That's cleared things up for me.
Amazing video and really helped me understand my new fox 36 grip 2 fork. Thanks
You made it simple. Best guide I have ever seen. Thank you.
Amazing video! Truly the best suspension set-up video along with explanation on youtube. Thank you, great job!
Thank you soooo much! That's the best feedback I could ever ask for!!
@@TheLostCo It is the truth buddy. It was great speaking to you on the phone the other week, I hope you enjoyed those coffees, from the UK, Luke :-)
Wow. I'm so glad you made this video. I was completely new to my new 36 grip 2 and now it looks like I know what I'm doing. Very helpful video. Thanks.
just ordered the fox factory 36 grip 2 from your store can't Waite to install and set it up!
Awesome video. It has been so helpful, but I think you have the number of clicks HSC and LSC mixed up on the written slide at 17.06mins in. It says HSC has 10 clicks whilst LSC has 6 clicks. This is the other way around on my grip2 damper at least (HSC = 6 clicks, whilst LSC = 10 clicks). Keep up these amazing videos. Thanks
Great vid, Mike! I am still curious about one thing - increasing air pressure vs. adding more compression. Do you have any personal decision factor, when to apply a particular one (rather than the other one and vice versa)? Thanks.
best video I've ever seen of fork setup. Congrats!
Yo! This is the best intro/walk through ive seen. Everyone else how to set up your grip 2 were complicated. Yours broke it down perfect. One question I have is how do I tune out trail chatter like water boards/trail littered with small rocks?
WOW thank you very much for these infos, I just bought my dream bike and it has a Fox 38 performance elite grip 2. This is super helpful 🤙
Thank you for this! It was very informative. I’ve learned a lot about my grip2 in such little time!
Thanks for the video on the Fox Fork. I have the Fox Fit 36 with 170 mm travel. I am 197lbs without my osprey pack so let's just say 210 with gear & water. I ride in the Arizona desert with lots of chunky rocks, both big and small on the trails. Transitioning over from Rock Shox forks, I have found this fork to be challenging to dial in. The video helped me and I plan on investigating if my fork was delivered without spacers too. I am hoping that is the problem I have been having and will take your advice to add 2. The best it has performed was this summer in Trestle Bike Park hitting big jumps and banks. On lot's of loose rock with much chatter, it wares me out. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
Glad I could help!! What travel is your fork from the factory? Fox ships different travel forks with different amounts of tokens.
Also, what sag are you at? I found mine very chattery with the recommended 15% sag and clicks of compression.
Try basically starting from scratch with how I recommend to set the fork up and let me know how that works!!
It is a 2018 Fox 36, glossy Orange with 170mm travel. (ID = C965). I Typically ride with about 25% sag. I'm guessing it has NO tokens given the travel. I will start by investigating that. Also, should the rebound match the rear Fox shock too? I have not had trouble with the rear but I did insert a token in the rear and that seemed to smooth out the rear travel.
Yep your fork has zero tokens installed from the factory. Add 2, and then go through my setup procedure to see how that feels!
Note that your fork only has one rebound adjustment unlike the grip2 forks which have 2. So you'll have an easier time setting yours up. Just refer to your rebound adjustment as Low Speed Rebound and you should be good!
interesting - two tokens? for a 170mm grip 2 - not tried that yet! does that put air pressure much lower than the leg sticker. I'm 78kg plus kit, been running 1 token 78-82psi depending on terrain. 20% sag. are you running same or less pressure with the extra tokens?
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@@dukemasterpro At 21:54 I explain how this works 👍
Just got this fork and lovin’ it! And just found your video and needed it! Can’t wait to do a little tuning and riding.
Heck yeah! Thanks for the love and enjoy that new fork!!
Give me a call at the shop if you ever need help with anything, 360-306-8827.
Mine feels good no matter how I set it up. This thing slays!
This is still the best Grip2 setup guide on RUclips. Did you ever do one for the equivalent shocks. To me, it seems that Low/High speed settings are harder to "feel" on air shocks.
This is absolutely fantastic,,, amazing job of explaining it, totally bossed setting my fork up based on watching this, top man
Wow! What a great comprehensive video. I really learned a lot
great explanation for this fork with the practical examples. thank you very much!!
Best informative grip 2 video I’ve watched
Great to hear you learned a thing or two!
great vid, very explanatory , just need some dry weather over here in the uk. love the ending very funny.
Thank you professor! Incredible video! Looking forward to dialling in my suspension
Great video!! Very comprehensive and great ending on the log
Fantastic tutorial on suspension setup. Professional grade instructions.
Thanks for this. Setting up a fit 4 damper but your figures for air pressure agree with mine i.e. way off the factory recommended settings!
Best setup explanation vid i‘ve ever watched👍
Hi dude, can you please comment your set up for your forks and rear coil? I’ve set mine up but I’m not really happy with it and I would like to try a different set up and I think I ride similar to you. Cheers. 🤟
Such a great video👏👍
Even I got to understand most of it as a newbie to mtb.
I have the fit 4 on my cube stereo action Team Hybrid and i have no idea how to tweak it properly. Still riding the bike after one month with the same middle settings. Time to tweak it a bit 🙈
Video helped a lot! Thanks.✌️
Hey man, if it feels good, don't fix it! But if you're wanting more traction and responsiveness then definitely follow my steps to dial the fork in!
Thanks so much for the kind words dude!!
Great video! By the way, I like the new name better. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Abraham! -Tor
What have I gotten myself into 😂🤣
Gonna take me a while to get dialed. Over my head hahahaha
Dryzal Mynelli ha ha same
Fantastic detailed explanation, lots to learn there.well done
Thank for the video dude. I've just ordered a new bike with the fox 36 grip 2 and i can't wait to get it dialled, i might need to watch this video a few times though. 😂🤘
when looking at the rebound and you say turn it 'counter clockwise' is that looking at the fork from the top or bottom?
Did you find an answer to this. To me it looks like when he's saying go clockwise he turns it to the left anticlockwise?
It’s from looking at the bottom
Very comprehensive, thanks for the Video!
This is an awesome and informative vid thanks for posting, totally breaks it down. Cheers GUYS !!
This is so complex it’s mind boggling 😂
best setup video on youtube
Thanks a lot for the video!
Was very surprised to hear that adding 2 spacers improved chatter compliance and even made it use all of its travel.
I'm currently running my 170mm Grip2 without spacers and indeed hardly ever use all travel.
Did you change the amount of sag after adding the spacers?
Less air volume = less air pressure needed to keep you up at your preferred sag. After installing two tokens I set my fork back up at the same sag % as I had without any tokens, and dropped about 5-10 psi. Less pressure = softer feeling at the top of the stroke and less air overall to compress at the end of the stroke. Try it out and let me know how much better it feels!
Will do, thanks!
Great video ...awesome job of breaking things down. Thank you !
Fantastic video! I know it took a lot of effort and we totally appreciate it!
Glad we could help pass along some knowledge!
Late to the game, but really great video. Exactly the answers I had been looking for.
Awesome video, thanks so much. Really helped with setup of my first full-sus enduro machine
Heck yea Michael glad we could help out! Have fun shredding out there 🤘 -Tor
Great video, Ive enjoy it, waiting for a DhX2 shock setup guide!
Just wondering what were your final lsr, hsr, lsc and hsc settings for that type of trail you rode.
Appreciate it. Thanks 😁
You are very talented! I really enjoy you videos!
Damn was that a sick video! Learned a ton!
Glad we could help out! Have fun on the trail!! 😎
Great video english is not my first language but really good explanation my only question is high and low speed compression how to combine it what to look for how is open and how is close what affect and what to look for when adjusting it
Really glad to hear your advices thx mate, only the music is too disturbing in my opinion... it'a pity but thumbs up anyway :)
This is a super helpful process to setting up the suspension. In terms of the sag, are you just using the weight of your body to compress the suspension? I was a little unclear with that part. Thanks - EDventure
Noob question here. When starting off the rebound setup you say turn fully clockwise but to me it looks like you are turning it anti-clock-wise? What's the correct viewpoint? From riding position or looking from below?
Such a great video! I'm going to see if you have another one on shocks (2022 Fox Float X)
Hey Dane, glad this video help you! It's been about 3-4 years now, and we still haven't made one for a Float X2 or any shocks for that matter.
However, this entire video is literally the exact same setup procedure for a Float X2 as it has all of the exact same adjustments with the damper, air chamber and volume spacers. If you watch this video and pretend I say "shock" instead of "fork" then it would be the exact same video and procedure 😀🤘
-Mike
Great video! Very helpful. Thanks!
top vid. learnt so much in one video
excellent ! thank you brother 🤜
Good job! great insights. Thank you.
such a good video!! Please can you explain why the 36 dot have a lock out. What do you do if you clim long way uphill?
Glad you liked the video! Most forks over 130mm don't have climb switches these days because the suspension just works incredibly better than forks from the "lockout on every fork" era. The support while pedaling and range of adjustments is so much better on modern forks that you can remove a lockout to either make the damper more simple, or have more room to add more adjustments and more efficient, better performing valving.
-Mike
really good video! a little bit long but it helps me so much!
Awesome vid. Goin in my favs for future reference 👍
Great video. Learned a lot from it. Thank you
Great video like always Mike! Just got my box of goodies in mail from you guys so I can do a full service on my factory 36 fit4 and Dpx2. Do you have a setup video for the fit4 by chance?
Great job explaining High/Low rebound and compression. I’ve always had trouble wrapping my head around these concepts and this really helped. I have a 2018 Factory 36 Fit4 can you buy the Grip2 insert and install it during next rebuild? Thanks and subscribed.
Great tutorial. Need some help though. At 11:20 you adjust the front suspension low speed rebound and high speed rebound individually. On my Grip2 the knobs turn together. What seems to be the issue?
Same with mine. have you found any info on this? Also as per sticker, slow and fast are opposite ways of what he mentions. Just adds to my confusion, I need another video.
Philippe Benjamin no, was hoping for a reply from the guy in the video
@@philbenjamin my sticker says slower is clockwise so that coresponds with his instructions (fully closed=full clockwise=slowest). However did not figure out why HSR and SSR is not individually adjustable on my fork. the HSR and LSR turns together whatever I do. I will reach out to Fox about this and provide their answer in this thread. Have a nice weekend
@@jesperlaursen3917 Yes, please let me know what you hear back from FOX. Have fun on the trails!
@@philbenjamin Better late than never - My damper was damaged somehow. Fox fixed it and now i am able to dial them individually.
So Nice more Like this🤟🏼
Heck yeah! Gonna keep riding and filming as much as I can! Especially in the winter when we have more time too!
Could never be faster than a Marzocchi one.
Totally! All of the simple forks with just one compression and one rebound adjustment are always quick to setup!
Dude you are a guru! Learned so much. Love ya for it. Thanks so much🙏🏾
Thanks a ton! Let us know anything you ever need! Our contact info is all on our website @ thelostco.com
What a great explanation!
According to Fox manual, 18 clicks out means fully open compression (high or low), not 6 or 10. 6 clicks out (LSC) and 10 clicks out (HSC) are recommended settings. Please correct me, if I am wrong.
Chris Laowai that’s what my 2020 manual says too