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3 LOW-VALUE Texting Mistakes You're Probably Making
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- Here are are a few texting behaviors you really MUST eliminate. But more importantly, WHY. Whenever you're implementing a new behavior, try to understand the WHY rather than just the how. That way you'll be able to adapt and adjust... and you'll avoid making new huge mistakes whenever you're confronted with a novel situation.
Also, as this video deals very much with "value" you might want to check out "Value Masterclass" at: www.toddvdatin...
Hope you enjoyed the video! If you'd like to learn a ton more about high-value texting, check out www.toddvmasterclass.com
1. Texting too much/too frequently
2. Being too formal
3. Texting while anxious/being reactive
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Thank you man. I am Brazilian. You Help me so much by resume.
These are the rules but the principle is what is most important here.
If she’s not into u all those rules are useless anyway
Formal's my default. Then again, I don't really make time for stupid women.
Turn your notifications off for texts and just check them not as often helps me allot
i did the same thing ;)
Also good for life, in general. Push notifications are the death of presence and focus.
same here.
years ago I did that, the next morning I saw a text "I'm alone tonight"....I felt like throwing my phone...go ahead turn it off if you want regrets later ;P
Ehh...
1. texting too much or too frequently
2. texting too formal
3. texting while anxious (double checking texts, neediness, people pleasing)
DSG disagree. If you’re making plans despite quarantine (which you should be if you can), all these still apply.
Don't keep text minimal and far in between because you don't want to seem needy or overly available, do NOT pretend. Actually be busy. If you have free time, get a hobby, pursue goals, read a book, learn an instrument or new skill, etc.
This is honestly the best advice I have received from this guy so far. Actually do things and you'll create things to talk about, won't chase, and won't seem needy, which is what I struggle with most when texting.
I try to GET OFF texting and get to meeting in-person ASAP! That's the goal of my texting. Keep it to a MINIMUM.
Bro same for me. Just get to the point and that's it
@@masterchief7794 Exactly!
That usually don’t work tho
@@rockyp32 what do you mean? it what sense?
YES! THIS!
I made this mistake many times on dating apps.
I hope you enjoyed the video and the tips... and I want to encourage you to treat these tips as educational principles rather than as prescriptive black-and-white rules. Excellence comes from understanding, not from memorization or mindless repetition! And for the course I mentioned at the end, the link is in the description. Hopefully, we'll see you there.
Heyy Todd..Ive been working on my music recently and i get carried away and my girlfriend is not happy about it at all...
How do I keep her from dying of boredom or giving other guys more attention
Ideal! Thank you
Todd - most texting apps have a voicemail function. It would be great if you could cover how to leverage it for dating.
Makes sense, agree however I often run into getting called out for [not caring enough]. Ideas? (Online/tinder, haven’t met yet context)
Oops meant to put in main comments
What’s up Todd. Hope you are doing great. Be safe.
F the you tube algorithm for hiding channels on this topic. Todd, you are one of the last OG who kept their spine and kept doing what fans need. Thank you.
Remember: if she drops the conversation for good, it most likely means she's just got better matches than you. It's quite unfortunate, but that's how it works. They are tremendously forgiving for texting "mistakes" if the guy is high value.
IMO texting is actually pretty easy once you just understand how to be brief and keep self-respect.
If she takes her sweet time to respond, of course you shouldn't rush to reply. Don't send walls of text, unless you explain something that she asked for.
One of the most straight-forward videos on this topic I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing. Don't obsess, be passionate about your life, be independent, and the texting will work out.
In my experience if you lay the groundwork properly then texting is almost irrelevant and the opposite is true as well. If you have a garbage interaction then it doesn't really matter what you text her, she's not going to care
Yep
Those are just the two ends of the spectrum. The majority of people find themselves somewhere between those 2 extremes and in that area, how you text does matter.
Basically
I love you Todd, you changed my life. And this is exactly what I needed at this time.
He is one of the best and know what he's talking about. Short and to the point without making it a one hour video.
how did he change your life?
@@Mr13alin I had no experience whatsoever with girls but not because I wasn't an attractive guy, but simply because I didn't understand how women psychology worked. I had read a few things related to GAME but it never made too much sense for me, since it was never too clear, was too gimmicky, abstract or reliant on external factors. So even though that did give me some insight, I still didn't understand it for the most part. That was until I found Todd's content, and that was when everything clicked, his content is like hearing things you already know but that you just weren't able to articulate. Once I studied all of his content I just knew that was it, I had found a gold-mine, and I finally understood how it worked, and again, even though I hadn't even tried anything at that point, I just felt that everything clicked, all the bad or good experiences I ever had with girls finally made sense. I obviously applied this knowledge, first with some girls I wasn't really too attracted to, just to see what happened, and it was like black magic, I quickly got them to chase me like a mf. At a new job that I got around that time I became one of the popular guys, again by applying everything I had learned studying Todd's content. I met a girl that I really liked, she was impressed with me since moment one because I was recognized in that social circle, and I knew it (you just see how their eyes light up when they see you have good social feedback lol), I gamed her, and eventually lost my virginity with her (I was as virgin as it gets up to that point, had never even kissed). The funny thing is, she was the one chasing the entire time, when I first kissed her I remember she was literally begging for more (I applied the kiss softly and then back off to increase the sexual tension lol), after that she aggressively jumped on me to make out, and I pushed her away and told her "that's enough, people around here know me." At that point she was pretty much screaming with her expression "please fuck me as hard as you can" lol. Long story short, I kept it that way, she was always the one chasing, when we got to have sex she was the one jumping on me to undress, just lie Todd said it was supposed to be. To be honest, since that was my first attempt at this, I never thought it would end up with sex. I was just trying stuff and seeing how far it could get. I was genuinely surprised by how ridiculously well it went, up to that point I had no idea I was able to trigger that amount of sexual desire and emotions in a woman (and one that wasn't bad at all).
The experience was life-changing, and she is an amazing person that is still in my life right now. At the end I was still too inexperienced to keep a long term relationship, it didn't end up working out, but the thing is, I knew this since the beginning so I was never too serious with her, and I also know what I did wrong, and what I should've done if I wanted to keep her around. That feeling of self-awareness in everything you do is just amazing. It's just great that, even having a clunky execution at literally everything (I hadn't even kissed before this lol, now I'm an expert because she was all over me the entire time the couple of months we were together), I was still able to do this just based on sheer knowledge and understanding of women's psychology works. Imagine what I could achieve by actually being smooth with the execution of the techniques on top of that.
So summarizing, thanks to Todd now I'm a much more confident person, I can do things and trigger emotions I had no idea I could before. I'm pretty sure that everyone who has gone through the frustration and loneliness that comes as a result of being socially ignorant will relate to how great the feeling of finally overcoming that is.
@@smarch3912 how old were you when you figured this out?
Even the best dating coaches say break the rules. I always thought the one’s making the rules were ridiculous
well he's one of the best so what are you saying?
Krisztián That the one’s who say don’t do this or that as a “rule always” are talking rubbish
@@Maxtk ??
Get off dating apps, get off texting , approach like you have a pair , get her number and call her with your big boy voice & seal the deal ... talking to myself “ lol 😆
Agreed
Online is super efficient if you know how it works -- you don't even have to be good looking. I've helped plenty of "ugly" friends hack the algorithms to get more dates
@@thehuman3077 what's the algorithms? Im attractive but can use help on the text game
@@ShawnFX look at "playing with fire" channel its all online game he knows what hes talking about
Great video. I have found that the best way to manage the first mistake without coming of as "playing a game" by waiting too long to text back is to genuinely be busy and/or keep my phone off my person when I am working or with friends etc. Women can sort of smell when you are genuinely playing games or actually busy with life. Mistakes 2 and three don't apply to me but I have had challenges with number 1, which I have learn to overcome by the approach described above.
Business is actually parallel to gaming women, but all of this stuff has to come from the heart. Don't act unneedy, be unneedy, don't act like you are a successful business man, be a successful business man, and then abundance comes in both of these areas which has been my experiences anyways.
I studied game for over 10 years and I always agree 100% with everything Todd has to say 😆 IMO the best instructor ever. Even better than Tyler, Julien and Mystery (no disrespect to them, after Todd they are my number 2,3 and 4 respectively)
Great tips generally! Don't overthink messages and keep messaging casual/funny. "Storytelling" works too.
I f***ing LOVE this guy's videos. I use it to fuel my cope. I tell myself _"Yeah! That was the problem! Now I know what to do."_
Honestly the best tips I've seen. Not your classic texting rules you usually see on yt
The more i watch this videos, the more I realize Im "Low Value"... at least they help a lot to improve my behavior.
You’re not low value, this is just the women see things.
or you can be like me, fundamentally understand and adhere to all these rules including the times for exceptions, and still get nowhere. way easier
Atta boy
You win some, you lose some. 💀
Todd you are the man! Been following you since my college days. Now I'm building my business, give me a year or two, I hope you don't retire by then :) I want to create awesome parties with the world's greatest seducers and entrepreneurs interested in marketing and human emotion. I will be attending all your classes and soaking up your knowledge like a sponge.
the best of luck brother!
I love your attitude man ;) Msg me on IG @forma_hominis
Just a few thoughts from my personal experience, regarding Tip #2, he's correct about not seeming needy, but in an effort to sound casual make sure you do not end up sounding like a buffoon.
Depending on the girl, you might want to stay away from the "dumb surfer bro" stereotype as much as you can.
As a side note, a lot of girls DO appreciate well formulated texts in terms of structure and grammar, it's not a stretch to think people appreciate intelligence in a person.
But like everything in life, moderation is key, and as Todd said, nothing is a "rule".
I like the way you speak, you talk so direct and up front as a man that's been through experience and been there done that was at youth and is still so up to date with modern day stuff, its all logic and makes sense you'll have to be at a different level (mind wise) to be able to understand. keep it up T
The formal one 😅 that’s me! 🤦🏻♂️ didn’t think how it came across
Just finished online finals. I’m gonna prep on the System as we start opening up to socialize
I find texting on tinder is like diffusing a bomb lol its ridicoulous this should not be this is hard and it feels a little bit degrading actually how i have to pull out all those tricks, i mean during this virus i have only online dating for now, i own a home, enough money,6 ft2 going to the gym 4 days a week ( homegym ), not bad looking 31 years old i don't like bragging but i need to make the picture clear. i had multiple time woman showing interest on tinder messaging me first and i have been probably been to nice and formal to them and then bam ghosting me, now i get almost no matches anymore maybe 2 a month so not even practice material anymore i'm quite annoyed, something is not right these days and ofcourse i have still improvements to make but something is wrong and i don't feel its my fault.
Your not the problem bro. Your getting the same treatment I get and I don't even have the stuff u got. Woman are just full of shit to be honest lol. Very little decent woman in this world today.
@@leonardogilbert5440 that’s not the issue…. Women Atleast most of them don’t use tinder to find dates…. It’s only for validation
Haven’t even been worried about talking to girls during this. Focused more on being creative. But it’s good to keep up on this stuff, great video man!
1 minute in already and Todd nailed it. I remember when I was trying to learn all the right things to say, you just become a fucken script and it’s not authentic or even remotely related to your personality. Once you go on a date you’re screwed because you’re not being “you”. Learning the principles and understanding how to communicate effectively is far more important than how to open or what to say. I’ve got friends who have the worst, most cheesiest shit they say to girls, like what’s your favourite colour, yet they pull stunning women because they’re confident, have substance, don’t care about the outcome, and know who they are. Communication is so much more than the verbal!
As a girl, your backdrop looks very appealing and makes a great statement of your style and interests.
When you're dealing with an international situation, texting / messaging is the only communication, haha.
@Todd V Dating What about messengers? She can see when and how many times you go to your messengers.
Correspondence through SMS is one thing - then the intrigue and thoughts “where did you go” are created. And another thing, when she sees in the messenger that you often online, chatting with someone and she does not lose sight of you. She can even write to you when you are online.
It doesnt matter if she sees you were online... if she is checking whether you were online or not then you already got her attention and attraction and that will only make it grow. If she doesnt care about you (yet), she wont check it and it is fine.
Dont text often. Dont think about texting. Do it every now or then. Few times a day and now or then you can engage in few quick meesages and then drop it for 8 hours. For a day if you want to. Give yourself time. Every time you find yourself enjoying messages too mucu from a particular girl, drop your phone for a half of day. Ignore a message.
Nobody will ever confront you about why didnt you answer my text message for 22 hours and if they do, you can always say you didnt feel like it and that is the end of that. You have a right to see a text and not respond for however long.
The part of you that tells you that is rude is the people pleasing part. That is the neediness. The part of you that deseprately wants others, especially girls to like you. And that is seen.
Train yourself to not care about texting. To stop wanting response from others. Stop wanting laughs, "good signs" from texting.. texting can never replace attraction. Will never make a girl like you. So dont get excited over texting. Over cute messages. Over relationship over texting. That doesnt matter.
Once you realize that you truly wont care about peoples responses or texting and that will come across in your indifferent nature to texting.
There is no attraction to be gained over texting. So dont get excited over it or think you need to craft a perfect response.
If you still have to build value for whatever reason by text... Try to get her on the phone!
i prefer talking on the phone in fact. Most girls are terrible texters. By phone, i can control the outcome better, she can hear my voice and it adds a more real dimension to the interaction
@@freddylimpster7137 jokes work way better and she feels feelings more intensely lol, aka is much more likely to come over. Phone can also mean facetime
@@Maxtk I'll call of them haha, no problem. Texting is a very poor form of communication and gets boring after a while if you're a high value guy
I made the worst mistake ever when I got super invested in this chick after a first date because I felt like we had a really good connection. Horrible case of one-itis and she was still in love with her x. She even ditched out date to hangout with him. I can't believe I stooped as low as to start sending long texts of how interested I am in her. Huge lesson learned that just because I thought there was a super deep connection (which there actually was), that I couldn't lose it by being low value and pushing too hard to see her again.
Nah bro there wasn’t a deep connection. Let that shit go
Yeah the first mistake was thinking there was a connection. Women are devious creatures. Never believe anything but what they act upon. The rest is always an act.
I think texting should be simple. If she doesn't text back often then just stop caring and kinda move on. Only text girls that show high interest. Thinking of when to text back seams to only relate to girls that show very low interest so why complicate things in your life by worrying about it. However being high value should mean that you have alot of stuff to do and that you have a life, so the closer you are to that the less you will be thinking of them anyway.
Todd - most texting apps have a voicemail function. It would be great if you could cover how to leverage it for dating.
These videos are always on time for me!
Bro your solid. I know a lot of what you were speaking on in the video as I practice it myself. But love the way you articulate what your saying on these subjects!
Texting should be mainly for logistics anyway - aka she already wants to see you
heard of tinder my g
Best video in a long time. No real rules. Just go for it!
I wrote a huge comment and deleted it. I hate texting. I might have my insecurity when it comes to dating but texting is seriously the worst way to communicate in today’s world of dating. Im so exhausted from trying to be me when girls just give me constant shit tests. I’ve tried following some of the other texting advice and to some degree it helps but ultimately no where, I really must have no game, how fucked up and sad am I. Really hate this dating world we live in.
Be yourself but also be aware of how you appear
Todd is back. Their are no rules
Poet n vuj
Needed this, thanks Todd. You the best
Texting 'game': "Hi, it's . We should go out for a drink soon. How about tomorrow night?" If she's busy and interested she will suggest a different day. Nothing more required.
Haha was planed to have lunch with her today. She texted me before i left thats todays no good but she will definitely let me know when... Umm was i blown off or am i still in the green.
@@unknownsource8008 90% of the time they'll never let you know when so just give up.
Escorpion Suerte as a girl your statement is true. Otherwise women will say the exact day.
@@mae88b.16 And as a girl, what is your take on text 'game'? Haha. How come you're here?
Escorpion Suerte it’s on my feed. I think it’s interesting.
You’ve been doing some research on what we need. Thank u bro.
Voice / call - great advice
Thank you for this! I always learn so much from what you are saying! I always use this information when I need it the next time around
Can you analyse and critique Patrice O Neal in terms of his game and his philosophy on relationships between men and women? There are lots of audios on the internet recorded before he passed away. Would be interesting to have your pick up influenced view on him from you as he maybe is more "natural" as far as I can tell. Would be an epic video (series idk).
Man...this the video i needed right now hahaha
SO true, Corona times is texting times more then ever lol!
Todd V, this video is god sent🔥🔥
Todd, your videos are guide for us in life in general, with both men and people. Thank u so much man
He's 100% correct, but it's sad such games are necessary.
Always giving great perspective. Thanks T
Well said Todd. less is more, also being direct..fxb a girl i havent seeing for a long time text me that she is in town..well the only thing i said is "Great, lets meet" !! thats all
Gotta stay focused on that abundance mindset, boys. Texting as a reaction is always a big one, and even more so now with the lockdown ending. I'm talking to 5 women currently and I've definitely had to regroup and stop myself from trying too hard to meet up.
Five damn i need to get to that level
You still the Best out there ,Todd👍
Todd, thank you so much.
good info.
as the prophecy foretold.
Daamn Todd I wish I could subscribe to your channel a million times
Big up Todd for dropping gems 🙏
Really important do you guys do cold approach during the corona days? What is your take on that Todd?
Started this week. Don't be afraid, girls are really responsive.
I've been getting laid MORE since March. Lots of bored, lonely girls who are not getting their usual validation.
General Ulysses S. Grant is giving dating advice?
I was using high value text but too much and too formally, what killed the value itself. Even "gamed the wall" with a girl lol
You guys got it wrong... If it takes a guy two or three days to reply, I move on and stop texting him back. And a guy who is hitting up 10 girls at a time, in my opinion, is not "high value." Depends what kind of girls you're after.
Thank you!! I don’t think having multiple women messaging you is alpha behavior. Being on your purpose is and wanting a relationship with the right person.
He literally said don't follow a rule like wait 3 days to text back
But if we took an honest look at your dating history, we'd find a bunch of guys you hooked up with who acted just like a douchebag, and a bunch of eager nice guys who got shot straight to the friend zone. I'd flip myself if I ever saw one of you women ever just be honest about what you DO, I stead of what you think you WANT.
Ok, perfect. I may not text for a few days. I'm usually working and I'm not a little kid who wants to play on the phone all the time. I just had a girl I really liked stop texting me because I may not say anything to her for a few days. And I actually wasn't talking to any other girls. In fact, usually just about every single time I try to focus on one girl (that's what I actually want to do), she instantly looses interest. So in many ways, we very much have to be the assholes. Because if we don't, life gets very brutal as a man. Truly. And unfortunately, the biggest byproduct of it is that, once we see that that's the man the girl wants, we don't like her anymore. Well never see her the same. Well enjoy the sex, but that's it. We wouldn't really wanna marry someone who will just ran after any asshole who crosses her eye.
Olivia is a perfect example here. Everything she just said is a total lie, bc if she would be happy settling for a decent guy who responded to her texts every day, and talked to only her, she'd have one and be too busy talking to him to be on here. But she does what EVERY modern woman does, gets played by guys who are richer, better looking and have the confidence and charisma to treat her like trash and she is bitter about it. Guys, just get paid. Once you have the cash to flash, it will be one easy to treat them like trash, and those are the only two ways to ever get a modern woman to love you. No texting mistakes, talking points or style is ever gonna matter. Just douchebag, with money bag.
Great value as always. Thank you.
Hey Todd.
Thanks for your work.
Please put out more videos regarding text game.
My texting has improved massively over the years and been doing all these things right. However, sometimes it still takes me a bit too long for my liking (30+ sec) to come up with a (good) answer. How do I speed this up?
If it doesn't come naturally just dont text anything or change topic towards something you like, abruptly. But you shouldn't csre if its good anyway mu guy
@@barfeyman3622 yeah true bruh, but it's like I kinda know what I wanna say but takes me some time to actually write it down in a good way
@@IvarvBeers maybe test it by just saying what you want without thinking whether you said it in a good way or not.
Thanks for the info bro 👍
The problem with this stuff is it's common sense to people who already know it. And for those who don't, giving them some rules and saying it must follow the context will just make them go into their heads more.
Please never stop making videos
When I get back to the girl asking if we are still ok for the date is not becasue I'm needy, it's becasue I like to plan my day ahead and I'm not gonna wait the entire day like and idiot waiting for her to confirm or not.
indeed. I have the same. but the question is: a girl doesn't know that. so how to ask again/remind in a way you dont sound need on paper. damn bro, rocket science xD
Thanks for not putting an annoying logo sequence in the middle of talking
Great list.
Great video I completely see much of what I’m doing wrong
Build a little bit of rapport then go straight to scheduling a date
Keep up the good work Todd
Great video dude!
Yes, i have been making the 2nd mistake almost every time.
Re rule 2 (don't be too formal) ... What if the girl you're trying to game with texts is an English teacher?
Well hopefully she'll give you *A+*
Great vid and also good for guys to deal with root cause of their neediness which is shame and fear of just being themselves.
Then the man can be free to be his authentic self which you mentioned is the kind of man who always has stuff going on and doesn’t overthink things from being insecure.
If you take a day to reply my text I’m gonna assume ur not interested and move on.... problem solved.
true but part of game is too GET them interested.
Lol are you a kid or something? People have lives
If people play the game . You play the game back . Wait a day to reply
@@kevinfang6005 People are on their phones constantly
@@kevinfang6005 No one has a life that means they cant reply within 12 hours, sorry but unless she is a CEO running a multi billion dollar company it's bullshit.
Yup....I made just about every single one of those mistakes :))
Thanks for the wisdom Mr. Todd. A text a day keeps the......well you know the rest :)
Great vid💯
How does this apply to long term relationships
Sh't first and foremost Todd is such an analytical master. Also he dives into subjective that's is rather emotional and biological
Great stuff. Thanks.
two shots of whiskey for me and my pal Todd here, you heard that right .....and keep'em commin ey?!
Why Text ? Whatevet Happened to Calling and Talking on the phone or seeing in Person ???
I feel like THIS video FREED me
"In business it's bad behavior but it works great with girls" LOL
Even if you don t any mistakes , it won't matter, if the man SMV is lower then Her SMV , you can be pua-expert , she won't give any chance , i know this advice from 2009 when PUA really started here in Romania or Easter Europe. In 2020 She gets 1000 texts from so many high value (from all over the world) guys ...is getting useless to try. My best advice is to go somewhere like Belarus or some place your SMV is very high comparing with the rest of the guys there.
So you have Eastern European girls texting guys across the world ? but how ? dating websites ? do this guys then travel to Eastern Europe ? and how many guys are high SMV in this world ? not that many so stop it ....
i understand not making it too long but i am not going to respond with "kina feelin like" over "i kind of feel like..." i really don't think women like that either. Now, 12 year old girls..sure, 'go gettem tiger' (Go get them now you exotic beast)
In my business I must respond quickly. Therefore I always respond. I'm not about games. I cal and talk over the phone. Texting is for kids and kid like mentality.
Thank you Todd
How do these tips play when you’re trying to have something serious with the girl? Obv youd meet in person but in my situation we are at distance for the time being with and our schedules are not coordinated due to work
todd i hope you answer me very soon,what is if this is true what else is true of this observation " he loves to play guitar" pardon my english,i don't speak it very well, i want to know what is the justify and if this is true what else is true of these observation : " he loves to play guitar" and " he loves instagram" that's it thnx.
Text game so under valued!! Just like Bitcoin! 😉 Great Job Todd!
Bruh! Great video. Unfortunately 7 people didn't get it and are likely to continue failing in life.🤦🏿