USE THIS TRICK TO COLOR MATCH
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- In this episode I will reach you a trick to help you improve your color matches especially when it comes down to matching tough colors on plastic bumpers!
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Great tips again! Your films are always informative and fun. Can’t thank you enough.
great points on the bumpers. I think maybe I would want to do both bumpers to get them closer to the metal body, but i guess I can see people wanting to keep it looking like factory. I never really thought about the reason the color looks off is because of the difference in the reflection on plastic verses metal. I was impressed with how you could discern the green and red hues in the color. I didn't realize there was so many selections from the same OEM paint for a particular car. I found this to be a great video, and I agree that it can be more efficient to replace a bumper sometimes rather than try to repair it. some people are concerned with bringing the value of the car down with after market parts. Personally, I'm not so worried about that; at least not with my present truck; who knows, I get another truck and I may change how I feel about that! Great video, Brian! Thanks!
Great when the shop you work for actually gives you time to match a color correctly.
Love how real and simple explanatory you are
Hello braane! You are not just a professional you are a perfectionist and i just love it
I would always go for the closer color match.
That one looks perfect...perfect enough!
Very nice blend job!! Sorry for the posts on your other videos about wearing gloves, thanks for including it in this one. When I went to paint school there were only 2 types of paint but a new one was coming, Acrylic Enamel with hardener! Flows like enamel, hardens like lacquer! I went to school for painting way before you were born, LOL!! Clean, clean, clean was what the instructor preached and he was right. Keep the videos coming.
Brian ...yet another great video mate, very informative, you speak and explain well....thanks again
Brian, after watching and listening to all your advice I painted my MG on a gravel drive in Cheshire England and I think I've pulled it off.....thanks to all your great tips and experience thanks.....at the end of the day its only paint ay..😁
Good point! You drove home thought on matching. That back bumper was 🫣 I liked your match much better!
Sending you love sir. I hope this information is beneficial to many. ❤
You gotta love Brian! Nice job!
That's always the problem on a metal and plastic panel. Especialy the bumper. Thanks for this video. And keep making video like this. More power to you.
looks great. when using a spray out card, make sure to check the "face"(the color 90 degrees straight in front of the eyes) and the "flop"(the color on an angle). the flop will show a different color than the face color. so for this reason when checking a spray out card, check the face and flop. you may get the face right but when you look at an angle the flop color maybe off. also check the flake size for metallic colors. this was a A+ paint class video
Lookin' good Brian. Thanks for sharing your skills.👍👍
Great explanation about why to use sealer and flex additive
Although an experienced painter like yourself can make it work, I found color match with Axalta and Sikkens was already a challenge to begin with, thankfully now using Envirobase. Love Hondas btw, I sprayed at a Honda shop.
Great job explaining
"Much more better" is the best we can hope for!
We need more of these videos Brian. Color matching explanations for painters out there. You are professional and very skilled. We need your help. GREEEAAATTTT VIDEO!!!!!
interesting comments from people seems like there is many different ways but your way I havnt seen before and I will try it thanks for the tips brian
The temps and hints that you offer are awesome. I have a question for you. I have a Dodge low mileage wheelchair accessible van and have purchased replacement quarters as well as a replacement front bumper cover. Before I just repaint these panels to match the PRH code I was wondering if there is a way for the average person to replicate Mazdas soul Crystal red color. Or is that just way out in left field
Man, it looks almost perfect. I'm no expert when it comes to painting, but that match is spot on.
Very very good match. Ty
Good video. You know your stuff.
Great idea putting part of the bumper back on to colour match,I kind of agree what your friends customer said but I would have asked the bodyshop to give the rear bumper the new paint and usually rear bumpers are much easier to remove and paint than front ones so a bonus from the labour point,I guess your friend learnt a lesson...... its like me I used to say would you like me to do so and so and customer would respond.... well if you want to,....... no sir I dont want to I'm being generous so I don't ask anymore I just do as asked and usually no more
small advice from my workshop.we always hunt daylight for checking spray out card's.we do have different sun guns for bad weather and winter,3M,scangrip...but most important is that always 3 people watch the sample's in the same time.people have different quality of eyes,the one who hold sample only see the face while those looking aside have better picture.on light metalics spraying samples with one or more layer of clearcoat will change ton.wet and 1 day dry samples will differ!force drying samples with IC drayer can change ton especially on dark colours(avoid it)never trust light in spray booth(neon or led)....if customer take the job with sunglasses ,don;t worry😀
such a great story
I like that! I was confused as to what you were doing. Now the only problem I see is that I don't have my own mixing station to add a little here and there. Maybe I can find someone who will. Great tip.
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Hey Brian you talked about flex additive . Its only used in clear and sealer ? Can you do a video on flex additives ?
Using the paint code, whether numeric or desciptive, has always given me a perfect match regardles of whether the sub-strate is plastic or metal.
They usually will never get you an exact match because of weathering of the existing paint. Also out of a spray can it will never mix or shoot properly.
i had guy from the paint shop came scan the color spend the whole day in the shop mixing an spraying using fast drying clear just to get the front bumper to match color was Toyota Prado 070 white pearl a brand new vehicle an yes the rear bumper was the color of the vehicle , so i had to get the front bumper to match the vehicle some times you don't have a choice but to get a perfect match to the vehicle
Thanks Brian ! Can you tell me what is the brand of towel you are using with the prep cleaner? Much appreciated!
I think the bumper covers and the rest of the body on vehicles age (ie: fade) differently.
If you need to replace a front or rear bumper cover, I'd point out to the customer that you're planning to match that to the rest of the vehicle and do they want you to repaint the other one to match as well?
Most people don't notice any anomalies, until after a body shop has touched their vehicle.
I got the message 😁 thanks brian
Can u make a video on tinting colors? Ik it takes a lot of experience to tint by just familiarizing what colors do with one another but would be very helpful!
I agree
The colour wheel is all you need to get started. That tells you what colours neutralize others and that’s a great basis. And just know if you have a colour that’s too dark sprayed out(which is very common) and you want it to lighten up by pulling black out, that’s going to make every other toner in the formula more powerful and more prominent in the colour. So you normally have to compensate for that by pulling out small amounts of others
thanks for your videos, all those tool boxes look the same, does the shop supply those? and yes wear a glove when cleaning a panel,them chicken wings from lunch play hell on the fisheyes, and the finished product looks better than the start for sure
Hi Brian love your videos can u tell me what 3m pps adapter can work on iwata bellaria gun
This a very usefull content like me. Actually im new about spray painter.
Good work
Honestly, Brian!, you’re a master at your trade! You care more than most! If I lived closer you’d be my guy for my projects! I wish all shops had you! Great job!
very nice color match. another tip is to record and keep your spray out cards for future jobs. It will 100% save u time and u can also improve on ur color matches for the next time.
i have a painter friend who flat out refuses to keep his sprayout cards. 4 years later and hes still wasting too much time everyday tinting colors.
There were 15 variants on my most recent car. Guy said just bring in the gas flap. Since I had it off anyhow, I strolled in with the whole front fascia. 😁
Great content! But I’m going to challenge you on the “don’t sand the sealer” comment. You can correct a lot of minor issues by sanding the sealer rather than the base. It’s a little faster and helps kick the problem that needs attention a little easier. Try sanding the sealer with 1500. I think people say not to sand sealer because it doesn’t sand well with anything more aggressive than 1500.
tech rep from the paint shop when he was doing a demo on sealers said after a hour depending on paint brand you using you can sand any imperfections on the sealer before you base but you will have to scuff the entire panel with a 1000
I agree with this comment, I would also say sanding sealer with water is less aggressive if you see specks of dirt.
Sealer is only for new parts or it can be used on a prep surface ( repaires bumper for exemple ) ?
I hope you will answer this for me. I had a friend paint a 1986 trans am silver for me. Base clear coat. I built up enough confidence to paint the ground effects my self. Charcoal gray. He was not there for advice. I mixed my paint flex additive which had me guessing just how much hardener I should add. The paint came out beautiful. But as time went by. It started looking more like chip gard . That was many years ago. I'm now thinking of buying a wreaked mustang gt to rebuild and you have given me the confidence to try again. Please help me this question.
A quick comment from an automotive coatings specialist. Bumpers will always be difficult to match E2E especially colours that travel a lot (large differences in face to mid to flop angles). Some have said in the comments that it's down to substrate (plastic vs metal) whilst true to a certain degree, is not the major factor. A phenomenon called geometric metamerism plays a huge part in perceived poor colour match. Put simply, its the slight difference in angle where the parts meet. That's why even when you blend in to the wings, a difference is still observed. A little trick that I used in the field demonstrates this perfectly. Take a painted thin metal test panel and flip it over paint side down on a surface with a little give. Next lay a ruler or straight edge over half of the panel and lightly scribe with a biro to make a slight crease in the panel. Turn the panel back over and see the effect. I used to align the crease where the bumper meets the wing to illustrate to customers the real issue.
Worst cases I have are when customers come to the paint shop, asking for a color match and they bring me a piece of the bumper, and they tell me they're doing a bumper cover, fender, maybe a hood. I have to tell them that if we "match" this plastic piece it wont match the fenders. So I have to walk them to their cars and show them how the bumper is a different shade to the rest of the car lol.
It's great that the shop you work for has the time to spend to do all that. The reality is (at least in my area) shops don't have the time to do this on every car. Keep in mind these are shops that have one guy who only preps and paint bumpers all day and at 10+ bumpers a day, they just pick the standard formula and roll!
I definitely get that ! Lol
Agree! in my shop, they'd have your guts for garters if you went in with just a new bumper, new bumpers are always shoved in the back of the booth with another job, sometimes 2 new bumpers from 2 different cars, with an entirely different main job all masked up in the middle. This guy is living the dream
@@philiprose6226 Exactly. The shops I speak of have a minimum of 2 full downdraft booths. One gets the bumpers and the other for the cars. Most collision shops work on production not precision. Do all the jobs turnout perfect? No, but most customers don't notice and that's what the shop is banking on. If a customer does complain then they take the time to match the paint better. That is rare and the shop is still money ahead.
@@MAn-ti3ul isn't it, they'll preach about quality to their customers, but what they really care about is units and money. 25 a day they try to send home. Out of a shop designed 20 years ago to manage half that 😅. In some ways they are right, I worked at one place and made such a nice job, buffed it to perfection, that I spied on the customer to see their reaction. She didn't even look at the job and was just happy that her car had been cleaned inside. She would have been happy with it straight out the booth!!
Thats our game, we're supposed to be invisible they only really notice what we've done if there is something majorly wrong, for the vast majority of people. And then of course you get the odd fussy customer who will inspect your work on their hands and knees. But you never know who your going to get 🤷♂️
Dude honestly, they could use your videos at trade schools to help supplement the hands on training, beats the hell out of I CAR training videos any day. I wish I had these videos when I was coming up in the trade, would've solved alot of rookie year headaches lol
Hello, new to the channel, great video and great personality! You mentioned that you do not work with Axalta anymore. Did you use their mixing system and is there any particular reason you switched brands?
Thank you and keep up the good job!
lol 2:00 “Ghost busters!!”
Brian.. Great work/teaching as usual. I have a general question, After your'e done spraying material through your gun, what do you use to clean the gun insides?
Thinner
Good to see alot of Acura/Honda cars there is this a Specially shop?
I do have a question about painting a bumper with some chips in the paint, should i go and repaint the whole bumper or go a cheaper route?
My local Macao paint shop quoted me $1900 for a paint job on my 2012 Nissan Altima it has a few dents but mostly the clear is peeling off from the sun here in California..is the quote a good price for a urethane paint ?
Hi ,can you make a video for the beginners regarding what to do with leftovers primer .... basecoat.... laquer after a respray? Do you bin it? Do you save it on special container's...? Can basecoat already thinned can be store and for how long and what is suitable to store it with? Thank you
Brian, being in Florida the sun has damaged the top of my paint on my Pontiac fiero. My issue is that it's a pearl white and i don't have a paint code to match. My other issue is that my car has four different types of materials to paint over, sheet molded compound, reinforced reaction injection molding, reaction injection molding and thermo plastic olefin. Even though you say not to overthink it you can see why this makes me nervous lol. The car is very small so just doing the top won't require a lot of work but I'm not opposed to just paint the whole car in just a basic white but with all these different materials I just don't know. What do you think?
I asked many paint shops how to match the factory paint Alabaster Silver Metalic NH700M and the answer was that the plastic and the metal surface absorbs and reflects differently that silver colour it never comes out 100%, this is the only colour that is very hard to match almost impossbile if you are lucky enough to get it right because there are so many variants air, humidity, temperature, additives, thinners and so on !
If you don't have a "sun gun", can you use those low profile LED lights for home ceiling installs with the adjustable frequency to match as close as possible with sunlight?
Really looking good color match. When u mentioned adding a little blue n green toner, is it ure trying to reduce the more reddish color from the spray out card sample? It seems by color wheel tint guide, by adding the opposite color of the color wheel, it will reduce the color hue of the red. I think we need a white board and marker pen to understand basic of color wheel 🤣. Anyway great job always Brian.
Basically what I do is find the toners in the mixture and pick the one I feel will move the color more in the direction I want. I always work within the formula
After working in this business for so long I have yet to figure out what is going to blow it with a customer. I would have thought they would have been thrilled. But at the same time the shop estimator should have had that conversation up front and discussed options so that double work wasn't done.
Question .. so I’m about to spray clear and I’m using the 2.0 3m cups but before I shoot the clear spills from the lid of the cup did I close it wrong or is it something else ?
I just did a spot in on a 09 ranger with Omni paint for a paint store and it looks like the paint was from the same batch as the truck was painted with new. Excellent match.
Omni is not very good
@@tonydiesel3444 I had problems with Omni paint years ago but they have improved it a lot over the years. Put on right it is very nice now. You wouldn't believe how nice this ranger turned out. Years ago all I used was Dupont and loved it but they have made so many changes to there pain system. 80S and 100S epoxy primer was the best you could get and they done away with it. Nothing compares to that primer today. Done away with 792S and 793S hardeners too. So much for the changing world.
In regards to “matching the front bumper to the factory color.” My OCD drives me crazy when I see mismatched bumpers, so, I prefer to see them match the body of the car foremost. Otherwise, great job Brian 👍🏽
you could have a very different color on the front compared to the rear bumper, as long as the car is "blended" properly you won't be able to tell.
My OCD is crooked factory installed emblems. Drives me crazy!
I have a ARE camper shell on my 17 Tundra. At certain angles and lighting. It's WAY off. But most of the time it looks ok.
Then you can pay an extra 1000 bucks to fix each of you see.
Looks great.... As far as the story you told, I would have paid him to match the rear bumper instead of redoing the front on an off color. Thats just me. 😁
Awesome stuff some how don’t think I will be able to do that at home. May just have to do the whole car. 😂 I’ve watched enough of your videos so I’m good to go. 😂😂
Do they still make flop adjuster. I quit painting for a living in 2000. The ppg global, dbc and dbu line had flop adjuster in many metalic colors. If they still use it, a show on flop adjuster would be great! I got close matches using it.
Personally I like to use epoxy primer as a sealer on all plastic parts. Flexible with great adhesions and you don't have to worry about spots that burnt through the factory primer.
Love your channel... BUT, not sure if you noticed that the majority of people on RUclips don't do body paint for a living and may not have the funds to purchase all of those products that you have at your job (very convening). Im a big DIY and currently fixing my back bumper and the only thing I can do is sand, prime, base and clear coat and that's all I'm able to do and purchase without being licensed. The amount of people that are subscribed to your channel may be the ones that do paint and body work for a living as well.
"I got a funny story to tell ya.. sad actually" 😂
How do you match aged paint? thanks!
I noticed u don't use a blow gun to dry cleaner. Do u think blowing it dry could leave dust ? I use to just dump cleaner on one rag then follow with another to dry then blow over all.Now I like spraying cleaner on surface then drying with rag.like I learned from u. Seams easier thanks
Man I Love your videos. Can you guys paint my car.
Is it necessary to use only Sikkens paint, and other brands not good? And what clear coat is best, can we 3000 sand a existing old panel and do only clear to restore some look without paint...
Also do you know of single stage colors which have clear already in them, like lacquer
Hi mate! I hope you notice me. Have you ever used the lesonal 288hs clear? Just wanna ask if 2:1+10% is enough to flow properly. Or do I have to add more thinners to it
With every clear no more than 10% of reducer any more and it's just killing the life of the clear (in my opinion) if you want it for the flow just stick to clears that are mixed 4:1 they are thinner and flow out easier and yet people still add 10% to them
Go slower reducer to allow paint to flow on panel and not flash so quick
not being a painter, the transparent toner is added to the clearcoat?
Do u know if theres different variants of chrysler PA4 im trying to color match and the paint im using looks darker..
Where did u get the thing that compares the chip and car ?
I want to paint match a fender on a older car and would I need to apply sealer ...it is thiner factory coat ...I'm painting the panel off the car and it a medium red
I had my rear pumper replaced and painted recently by a local body repair shop. The paint came out perfect, but they did not install the nuts back, only 2 rubber brackets. I'm a home mechanic so I just install the nuts myself and be done with it. I was a bit unhappy about it.
Having a Master's Degree in fine art helps me with color matches ..........love painting canvases , but autos are my bread and butter...lol
Man.. all I'm gonna say is we work in a tough industry. We recently painted the side of a metallic red Mazda (replaced rear door, blended into front door and rear quarter) and then they proceeded to complain because the already mismatched front and rear bumper didn't match the fresh paint that we did. Needless to say that was a nightmare and we ended up making little on the job. Also just wanted to say that I love these vids and have personally learned a lot from them but as a ppg deltron user I had to figure out how to do certain things with our own system ( like how to make clear base). One thing I find that happens, and I'm not sure how to really correct it, is that when you put fresh clear onto a panel you're blending in to it seems to make the color look darker than it originally was. I try to always 800 panels down to eliminate most of the original clear but it still happens.
I sprayed Deltron for about 15 yrs and ran into the darkening clear coat effect alot. Always seems to be worse on Hondas for some reason. Especially on light metallic colors. I found that if you stop a little short from the edge on the first coat of clear and then do a full coat of clear the panel doesn't look as dark to the adjacent panels.
Clearcoat isn't 100% clear. Depending on the brand they turn yellow or darker often. Also with the added layers of clear, the light has to travel through more layers, and gets broken different, alternating the colour beneath and/or giving it a magnifying-effect.
It truly is a tough industry, sometimes you get those jobs where you don't make money or even lose some, got to get that back in different jobs then, learn from it and talk with the customer to make sure he/she understands what will be done and why.
Buff your blend panel with a white wool pad BEFORE you sand, then prepsol it and sand. The buffing “cleans” the weathered clear, then your first coat of clear should only go to your blend, the 2nd to whole panel to prevent refraction.
They can either pay for it, or take a hike. Stop catering to ignorance. I'm not going to pay out of my pocket to do extra panels. Red changes rapidly out in the sun. Pick the best spot and match it then blend what you can. I deal with that crap all the time. I'm not a magician. These expectations need to be set before you even start the job.
Hey man, nice job.
I need information on where to buy some of the tools you use, I'm starting a workshop in Nigeria. Can you help?
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Brian you are doing a great job with the videos keep it up. My question is what if I am a DIY home painter and don't have all the luxuries of the color matching equipment you use or a local paint shop for chip cards? Also, should you use a flex agent in the basecoat too?
Hey man what do you use for a paint suit in this Florida heat? I hate painting with short sleeves but I don't wanna die from a heat stroke lol
I use arm covers.
Nice,i thought thats what it was! Where could I find the ones you have in this video?
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Thanks man!
Front bumper On the money sheit that back bumper is not even close great work and tips I save most of ur videos soon I'm painting 3 cars of my own thanx bless 2024
I ordered small bottles of paint NT2 and it didn’t match, I talked to them they have a guarantee. But is it user error is there something I could do to make it match better? When you buy these paints as a DIY it comes pre mixed. And I don’t have the ability to mix and match the paint.
Is 1k sealer good?
I actually do this .. all the guysthought I was nuts.. I use ppg water and another trick I do is when doing a white tri coat I leave out 10% of the white and it’s usually really close.
In our town body men tell the customers that if they want it looking the same then it requires a whole respray. It shuts people up quick.
Great tip. Can you do more funny stories in your videos?
Haha sure
Hell with that. I would have paid to have the rear sprayed to match instead 🤣
Everyone would do same until they get hit with the price.
how do you do the headlights?
plastic primer after paint or before paint
for starters this is what you wanna do I myself made alot of mistakes in the past with color matching now the eyeball does the trick without doing a spray out
Brian is correct. Bumpers never match the rest of the car. I use to work at a car plant and we use to see that all the time coming down the quality line
Some manufacturers are better and some worse. On my Honda Accord CU2 Pearl White the front matches perfectly from the factory, but the rear bumper is so off in lots of lights, it drives me crazy.
@@mwelke90 you're right. I worked at a Nissan plant and certain colors were terrible. I remembered seeing a brand new Cadillac car that was Pearl white sitting at a fast food restaurant. Both bumpers were way darker than the rest of the car. Most customers don't pay attention to that when they buy a car. Once they know you had to paint a bumper on it, they notice it
Did you clear coat the cut bumper piece? I remember on a previous episode, that you said to clear rather than prepsol for a good reason, but never ended up telling us why.
I was in a pinch so I didn’t but clear works the best
I got a question why does the paint job I just did gets darker depending on what ange I'm looking at it? So at certain angle it looks darker than the cars original color at just the right position it looks like perfect match and at certain angle it even looks lighter! Is this a common phenomenon in car painting?
Did you check both fenders?
My dad once made a hitch frame for a guy with a nissan frontier. When my dad measured everything, he figured out that the frame was significantly higher on the passenger side. My Dad thought it was more important to tow whatever trailer square to the vehicle so when he finished the hitch frame, you could visually see there was a difference. The drop looked greater on the passenger side. The customer didn’t like it and refused to pay. Lesson learned. Ask the customer. Let them decide.