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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • American Airlines has announced an order for hundreds of new aircraft from Airbus, Boeing and Embraer as it looks to bring down the average age of its fleet and bring greater efficiency to its long-term operations. The order includes the 737 MAX, A321neo and E175 for future flying.
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  • @bennramnarine3395
    @bennramnarine3395 3 месяца назад +124

    American is keeping Embraer alive and busy

    • @dcxplant
      @dcxplant 3 месяца назад +2

      Yup!

    • @terencereeder9830
      @terencereeder9830 3 месяца назад

      It's still the old Embraer E175 + version.

    • @Blank00
      @Blank00 3 месяца назад

      So is United

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 3 месяца назад +2

      Well, outside the US the E2 series is kept alive. The scope clause needs an update to reflect the E2 series.

    • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
      @EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад +5

      I hope the E175-E2 gains interest from other non-American airlines. Though many E170s and E175s out there are new.

  • @globetrotter7778
    @globetrotter7778 3 месяца назад +88

    I highly admire Embraer's perseverance and ingenuity in their quest to maintain their foothold in the commercial aviation industry. I'm therefore happy to see that they (in particular) have received a considerable order.

    • @Vlasko60
      @Vlasko60 3 месяца назад +8

      I agree. We need more than just 2 major manufacturers.

    • @jacobzimmermann59
      @jacobzimmermann59 3 месяца назад +7

      Especially since they have really been making excellent aircraft.

    • @tomAkelife-ff9tf
      @tomAkelife-ff9tf 3 месяца назад

      and actually the e175 e2 was developed by embraer knowing that it would not comply the US scope clause governing regional jets, hoping that pilots unions would relax the rules, which haven't changed. therefore embraer has no choice but to continue selling the older first generation e175 despite spending huge sums of money in developing the e175e2. Embraer essentially forced the e175 to be re engined with pratt and whitney gtf engines despite the excess weight not permitted by the US scope clause

    • @jamhombre
      @jamhombre 3 месяца назад +1

      I agree. I love the E190 offers more capacity and just as reliable.

  • @user-me8ms8xd4v
    @user-me8ms8xd4v 3 месяца назад +84

    As an Airbus captain for AA I love the A321 NEO order great airplane. But the lack of a widebody aircraft order further puts us (AA) behind United and Delta in the international destinations market

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt 3 месяца назад +8

      I honestly think that AA is waiting to see how the 777X variants will perform before placing an order, but I feel fairly confident that they will.

    • @gamm8939
      @gamm8939 3 месяца назад +9

      @@sainnt And when do we get the 777X? It looks like earlist in 2027. They dont have a single order in, and the backlog is almost 500 aircraft.

    • @M1911jln
      @M1911jln 3 месяца назад +7

      I don’t understand why AA is buying both the A321neo and the 737 Max 10.

    • @user-me8ms8xd4v
      @user-me8ms8xd4v 3 месяца назад +15

      @@M1911jln well as we see with the 737 max continuing issues it is best not to have your eggs all in one basket just in case in the future an issue comes up with the 321 and i am sure Boeing gave them on hell of a deal

    • @KaptnKork
      @KaptnKork 3 месяца назад +9

      Also, an airline that has both A32X and B737 in their fleet will find itself getting better deals from both Airbus and Boeing over an airline with just one of the types. The airframer will know there is another competitor in the game

  • @LeMassiveNoob
    @LeMassiveNoob 3 месяца назад +67

    Great to see that American is ordering Embraer as well. The narrow body market definitely needs more competition.

    • @encinobalboa
      @encinobalboa 3 месяца назад +2

      Wonder why AA did not choose A220? Maybe Embraer has faster delivery time.

    • @LeMassiveNoob
      @LeMassiveNoob 3 месяца назад +1

      @@encinobalboa The A220 is only being made in Mirabel and Mobile. Which means production time is slow. Plus, the E175 they are using is smaller, and probably suits the smaller routes they are using better than the A220.

    • @paulofernandofz8537
      @paulofernandofz8537 2 месяца назад

      ​@@encinobalboaAcho que a limitação imposta em termos de peso para a aviação regional impede o 220. Até porque são aeronaves de primeira geração. E não os revolucionários E2. Q tem motores mais pesados, embora mais eficientes! 😉

    • @paulofernandofz8537
      @paulofernandofz8537 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@LeMassiveNoobExatamente. Por isso não poderiam também escolher os Embraer E2.

  • @skyworks1621
    @skyworks1621 3 месяца назад +16

    A321 Neo is a great plane and I feel safe when I fly one

  • @JasonWoolridge
    @JasonWoolridge 3 месяца назад +13

    It's great that American is adding more Embriear Aircraft to it's fleet because the market for short haul flight routes is growing vastly ✈️

  • @Fuff63
    @Fuff63 3 месяца назад +3

    Enjoyed this, thx. It’s also pretty cool to see all of the parts being moved and assembled. Cheers.

  • @lunyplayz7920
    @lunyplayz7920 3 месяца назад +31

    Airbus has this new method called makeing sure the bolts are tight 😊

  • @kristensorensen2219
    @kristensorensen2219 3 месяца назад +7

    The A 321 is top shelf!! Just flew on a Hawiian flight in this great plane.

    • @kayfisher7025
      @kayfisher7025 3 месяца назад +1

      Fly it some more, Airbus made in a drug infested area in France. They all got issues just like the 737 got issues. This is what happens when pieces made all over the place . In the past Airbus engines falling off as well.😮😮😮

  • @damienruud9742
    @damienruud9742 3 месяца назад +5

    I love Boeing, Airbus AND Embraer so I'm glad they all got representation in this new order. Having recently taken an Embraer 175 from LAX -> TUS I was impressed by the larger and more comfortable seats!

  • @JasonWoolridge
    @JasonWoolridge 3 месяца назад +34

    I'm very surprised that American Airlines is extending it's commitment to the 737 Max family considering the 737 isn't getting any more younger ✈️

    • @coletrickle581
      @coletrickle581 3 месяца назад +7

      Neither is the A321N

    • @fretsward2225
      @fretsward2225 3 месяца назад +3

      They are purchasing new 737s...

    • @expansionone
      @expansionone 3 месяца назад +3

      @@coletrickle581the only way Boeing was able to fit the NG engines to the ancient design was to move them inwards and forward. The plane is not balanced anymore and requires the deadly MCAS system to overcome that flaw. The Airbus is a way newer design. Boeing screwed up too many times

    • @coletrickle581
      @coletrickle581 3 месяца назад +3

      @expansionone The A320 is a 35 year old design itself, but the main advantage it has over the 737 is its landing gear design. In hindsight, the 737 should have reached the end of its lineage with the NG series. But so many were ordered that Boeing decided to enhance aerodynamics and keep the line going and customers coming.
      The MAX series design is fine - NOW that the MCAS software has been reprogrammed, where it also gives pilots final authority over the system should any hypothetical situation occur. Whether such a situation is highly improbable or the chance of occurrence is actually impossible, the pilot has the override ability.
      Clearly, the current problem with the MAX lies within manufacturing. Until that is resolved, Boeing deserves the intense scrutiny. Even if most of the produced aircraft to date were built correctly, things have to be perfect all the time. Boeing hasn't shown the industry they can do that to this point.

    • @ziegle9876
      @ziegle9876 3 месяца назад +1

      @@coletrickle581 Though it is a half-century younger design....

  • @richardneilan2392
    @richardneilan2392 3 месяца назад +1

    Great coverage as always, Dj! Thanks!

  • @soccerguy2433
    @soccerguy2433 3 месяца назад +11

    As of 2023, the E175 remains in production, with strong demand from regional airlines in the United States, which cannot order the newer, but heavier E175-E2 due to scope clause restrictions on maximum takeoff weight.[61]
    can they adjust the takeoff weight to allow the E175-E2? Would be a win for the environment

  • @cxar71
    @cxar71 3 месяца назад +11

    Wondering if the 737 order was for the model with, or without, doors. 😜

    • @benoitmarande3122
      @benoitmarande3122 3 месяца назад

      depending if AA orders the convertible version.

  • @imranzaki3687
    @imranzaki3687 3 месяца назад +10

    Who in the right mind is still willing to fly 737s and 787s?

  • @soulquesthealingmusic2307
    @soulquesthealingmusic2307 3 месяца назад +14

    Does the 737 Max-10 come with bolts? Or do the passengers bring their own?

    • @terencereeder9830
      @terencereeder9830 3 месяца назад +6

      Passengers to be provided with parachutes 😁

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +6

      They are sold separately 😂

    • @genxer74
      @genxer74 3 месяца назад +5

      "some assembly required"

    • @soulquesthealingmusic2307
      @soulquesthealingmusic2307 3 месяца назад

      Very nice...!@@genxer74 😆

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 3 месяца назад +3

      Does the a321neos come with cracks or do passengers need to be fat in order to stretch the fuselage?

  • @r12004rewy
    @r12004rewy 3 месяца назад +7

    Great news for Airbus and Embraer.

  • @martinmdl6879
    @martinmdl6879 3 месяца назад +14

    Can you imagine the secret discount they negotiated, placing this order while the FAA is going nuts over all the quality escapes?

  • @747forever9
    @747forever9 3 месяца назад +1

    Ty dj!!

  • @lunyplayz7920
    @lunyplayz7920 3 месяца назад +16

    Airbus has this new method called makeing sure the bolts are tight

    • @nickjw88
      @nickjw88 3 месяца назад +1

      That adds costs and cuts into profits.

  • @pesawatindonesia
    @pesawatindonesia 3 месяца назад

    Good Update !

  • @stevesmoneypit6137
    @stevesmoneypit6137 3 месяца назад +7

    I would like to see AA place order for 777X and more 787s. After all the wait will be long if ordered now. Can’t just buy when you need them.

    • @isthatso5616
      @isthatso5616 3 месяца назад +8

      Why must every commenter think a carrier must have the A350 in ones fleet..
      The 787 suits their current widebody needs just fine .
      Who knows maybe it has a place in the future for 777-200 replacements, or they could just as easily order more 787 9 -10's!!

    • @stevesmoneypit6137
      @stevesmoneypit6137 3 месяца назад

      @@isthatso5616 The bus people just want to pollute all airlines.

  • @viewfromthehillswift6979
    @viewfromthehillswift6979 3 месяца назад +5

    Why would any airline continue to buy a 737 Max?

  • @gruncletim
    @gruncletim 3 месяца назад

    This is good information to know. I like hearing about the overall fleet expansions by airlines.

  • @dcsyd16
    @dcsyd16 3 месяца назад +5

    Had a rewinged - reengine and modernise 757 existed would that replace the 320 / 321 neo

  • @tenkloosterherman
    @tenkloosterherman 3 месяца назад +15

    The only reason any airline would have for ordering the stone-age 737 would be that Airbus has a backlog of more than 5 years. Go figure.

  • @Elliasp-xx7mb
    @Elliasp-xx7mb 3 месяца назад +38

    American Airlines is clever : NEVER buy only from one provider : you never know what could happen 🤷‍♂

    • @marv6017
      @marv6017 3 месяца назад +1

      That’s their brilliance and success…AA needs to improve on service next making them incredibly competitive and unmatched by any other American carrier.

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt 3 месяца назад +3

      AA has always operated a mixed fleet. At this time though, they only operate Boeing widebody aircraft and a mix of narrowbody aircraft.

    • @marcd1981
      @marcd1981 3 месяца назад

      They are even more clever than that, because they do not buy any aircraft (or parts), they are all leased.

    • @Sean-C
      @Sean-C 3 месяца назад

      smarter than Alaska which only flies Boeing

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Sean-C FYI. Airlines that fly single types are among the most profitable in the world. Think Ryanair, Wizz Air, easyJet and southwest.

  • @da480
    @da480 3 месяца назад +44

    “737 will bring additional efficiency… ” 😂 how? It gets grounded every so often 😂

    • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
      @EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад +30

      That's the (fuel) efficiency. When it's grounded it consumes no fuel.

    • @da480
      @da480 3 месяца назад +7

      @@EuropeanRailfanAlt exactly 🤣

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@EuropeanRailfanAlt😂👍🏿

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 3 месяца назад +3

      They don't have to install the BMCS, which not only makes it far more efficient, but won't require pilot retraining, honest!
      BMCS: Ballistic Missile Control System

    • @stevesmoneypit6137
      @stevesmoneypit6137 3 месяца назад +2

      @@EuropeanRailfanAltAs in the ABs with no engine option or 220!

  • @stephencannon3140
    @stephencannon3140 3 месяца назад

    The reason LAX/PHX seems like a “Birthing Center”…I like that BTW….an Airbus Mill….especially 321NEO is one simple market…..”Hawaii”. Yes the Neos, can and frequently do domestic flights from LAX/PHX, but the other 321 types, can’t go ETOPS required for Hawaii.

  • @NeilMacedo
    @NeilMacedo 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the updates Dan 😊

  • @DomenicNicosia-bs8qd
    @DomenicNicosia-bs8qd 3 месяца назад

    You have to say the Airbus A320 Neo take a some beating .

  • @sherifz2131
    @sherifz2131 3 месяца назад +1

    bravo DJ. keeping unleashing such brilliant analysis away. Thank you 🙌🏻

  • @jimw1615
    @jimw1615 3 месяца назад

    The fielding of the B-737 Max 10 will begin a new era of tail strikes on take-off, too. Just wait and see.

  • @maurobrattich7971
    @maurobrattich7971 3 месяца назад

    I am surprised not many international carriers are buying the C919.

  • @briand2614
    @briand2614 3 месяца назад

    Me thinks the MAX10 order involved some favorable pricing. A deal they couldn’t refuse, and the fact Airbus deliveries are maxed out.

  • @user-ed2cv2ie2u
    @user-ed2cv2ie2u 3 месяца назад +24

    While not saying they should not purchase from boeing. The A350-1000 caught my attention that would be a useful aircraft for them

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +2

      I agree!

    • @dcxplant
      @dcxplant 3 месяца назад +9

      AA would not know how to deploy them. AA is currently led by a set of regional managers with no vision, and no clue how to compete across oceans. Furthermore, AA had 350's on order, a simulator set up and certified, with simulator instructors and check air pilots trained up when AA canceled the 350. AA's management would never admit a mistake and reverse a decision as large as bringing the 350's back.

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@dcxplant that's unfortunate!

    • @dcxplant
      @dcxplant 3 месяца назад +1

      I agree. AA would be making excellent money right now using the A350. Also, the 330NEO would be an excellent aircraft, but again, the current management does not know how to run a Flag carrier.@@wadehiggins1114

    • @mandandi
      @mandandi 3 месяца назад

      AA's strategy seems for long haul operations seems to be about carrying fewer passengers. The 787 carries fewer passengers than A350, and they are comfortable with that. The seem to be replacing their fleet of 777s with a larger number of 787s.

  • @martinavery3979
    @martinavery3979 3 месяца назад +2

    Boeing really needed a vote of confidence in the MAX 10. A321 unavailable in the near future anyway, so I think the MAX 10 is the only option for near term lift, but I wonder what AA paid for this order?

    • @Vlasko60
      @Vlasko60 3 месяца назад +1

      With everything going on with Boeing, they likely got a very good deal.

    • @marcd1981
      @marcd1981 3 месяца назад

      Two things regarding your comment / question: They don't buy , they lease, and they are getting very good deals from Airbus, and now Boeing because of the MAX problems; the second thing is the -10 is not available either, because production was halted by the FAA until all issues are worked out.

  • @Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8
    @Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 3 месяца назад +2

    *The Boeing 787 has a design cabin altitude of 6,000 ft, the A350 is set even lower at 5,500 ft.*
    *The cabins are pressurized and maintain this level regardless of cruising altitude, be that 30,000 ft or 40,000 ft.*
    May 9, 2023

  • @tonysaberwal8895
    @tonysaberwal8895 3 месяца назад +2

    Ask American Airlines to check the Split Pins holding the Doors in place are actually in place and fitted as they should - easy to do when you know how.

  • @stuarthutt3740
    @stuarthutt3740 3 месяца назад +7

    As long as the doors stay on the 737. Embraer is an excellent choice.

  • @aadityasaviation3274
    @aadityasaviation3274 3 месяца назад +8

    Wish that AA considered ordering the A320neos. And if they were to consider order of a Wide-Body aircraft in future...I would love to see them consider the 777-200lr.

    • @marv6017
      @marv6017 3 месяца назад +1

      AA already have over 200 A320-200’s. I think they are focusing more on slightly higher capacity newer AB aircrafts. For example, AA have 70 A321-NEOs and a backlog or 95 orders.
      I do agree they would benefit of newer A320 as they average 18 yo and the. NEOs would be an excellent choice…we will see what happens?

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt 3 месяца назад +8

      Many people are not noticing that Airbus is no longer selling a lot of A320s. The majority of the NEO order is for the A321. The Max 8 is outselling the A320 by a lot.

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 3 месяца назад

      Looks like a strategy as Delta has no interest in the A320 Neo either and has stated they will replace them with the MAX and A321.

  • @momo-nu4cc
    @momo-nu4cc 3 месяца назад +3

    I am a frequent flier on American Airlines and their A321 fleet is the most comfortable and nicest narrow body jets they have. I will say the 777s and 787s are starting to get tired - particularly the 777-200s need to be retired

  • @user-oj4xp2lh4d
    @user-oj4xp2lh4d 3 месяца назад +2

    Ignore my last comment. Boeing, it seems are getting lucky due to the Airbus full order book on the A320 family.

  • @SuperAirplanemaster
    @SuperAirplanemaster 3 месяца назад +3

    I hope American 🇺🇸 comes back to Dubuque with E175 E-1

  • @dragonlax999
    @dragonlax999 3 месяца назад

    Wow

  • @judyArsh
    @judyArsh 3 месяца назад

    You just know Boeing offered one hell of a discount to get this order. Everyone will be stuck buying some Maxes because the wait for Airbus is too much.

  • @richardstover1936
    @richardstover1936 3 месяца назад +3

    What is the future in the US for TurboProps like the DASH8 and larger variants?

    • @Cactus732
      @Cactus732 3 месяца назад +1

      Basically nil. The DHC8 is no longer in production and the ATRs issues with icing makes in unsuitable for the majority of the US domestic market

  • @JackFreeze17
    @JackFreeze17 3 месяца назад +4

    Did american buy the Embraers for their regional partners or the actual mainline airline?

    • @marcd1981
      @marcd1981 3 месяца назад

      They lease everything

  • @mig31m6
    @mig31m6 3 месяца назад

    Given the current status of the 737 max program, I can very easily see American Airlines ditching that order and proceeding with a much larger Airbus fleet given the current FAA review of Boeing

  • @AlfCalson
    @AlfCalson 3 месяца назад +2

    ✈️

  • @nurrizadjatmiko21
    @nurrizadjatmiko21 3 месяца назад

    Totally unexpected when i first heard that news from American.
    2020 : Many old planes at American are retired.
    2024 : More new planes are coming soon to American.

  • @user-gj6ke6su4t
    @user-gj6ke6su4t 3 месяца назад

    Wow. And here i thought AA wouldnt order new airplanes

  • @rickwhite4137
    @rickwhite4137 3 месяца назад

    Nice to have some Airbus aircraft when all the Boeing aircrafts are grounded.

  • @ZBGregory
    @ZBGregory Месяц назад

    The MAX10 is probably going to be a mistake. The 321NEO has been much easier to acquire as the first order of the 321NEO was ordered at the same time as the MAX8 and that Airbus order has already been completed while the MAX8 STILL has delays.
    The 321NEO has been a perfect fit for AA's domestic longhaul fleet. The MAX has been lacking as it isn't as versatile in offering the same product on the domestic longhaul. The MAX is just not big enough to meet the service needs (it's galley's aren't big enough to hold all the food and service items). AA tried to use the MAX8 on domestic transcontinental services but had nowhere to put the service items the transcon service uses. It was an immediate mistake that wasn't foreseen months in advance. Each transcon is provided a menu and the options on the menu didn't match what was available on the aircraft. Meals listed were not there, also desserts, wines, linens, glassware, breads and first course salads were just not there. They just didn't put them on the plane because there was no space. Service items were placed in closets and overhead bins or left on the jetbridge.
    The airbus IS however able to accommodate the larger domestic longhaul and transcontinental services.
    The MAX10 would need a first class galley overhaul if they wanted to use these aircraft in the same manner, WHICH would mean taking out seats which they are just not willing to do.

  • @jfmezei
    @jfmezei 3 месяца назад +6

    Wonder if mixing A321 and 737-10 is more about having some network relilience should one type be grounded and/or have engine problems that reduce reliability.

    • @stephen285
      @stephen285 3 месяца назад +1

      a great question

  • @mannythelimodriver6003
    @mannythelimodriver6003 3 месяца назад +1

    Don’t know how you concluded that AA have been using the A320 for several decades, when the inaugural flight for the A321 was in 1990. Airbus was formed in 1970!

    • @thomasfy4
      @thomasfy4 3 месяца назад +1

      It’s in its 4th decade of manufacture? It is several decades …

    • @mannythelimodriver6003
      @mannythelimodriver6003 3 месяца назад

      @@thomasfy4 if a decade is 10 years. How can it be several decades?

    • @thomasfy4
      @thomasfy4 3 месяца назад

      @@mannythelimodriver6003several does not mean 7 lol 😂

    • @mannythelimodriver6003
      @mannythelimodriver6003 3 месяца назад

      @@thomasfy4 so instead of laughing about it. Care to explain instead?

    • @thomasfy4
      @thomasfy4 3 месяца назад

      @@mannythelimodriver6003 it means more than 2 but less than say 10? There is google you know to explain these things.

  • @rusty9129
    @rusty9129 3 месяца назад

    I help manufacture the engines on these so I understand a little about the industry -
    1- I wonder why American chose the E-175 over the little Airbus as they are quite similar in spec. Perhaps it's because of time to delivery?
    2- What happened to the pilots' union telling Boeing to not even bother to build the MAX10? The union stated that NONE of its members would be willing to fly the -10 as they deem it unsafe. Calhoun the CEO of Boeing, publicly stated that he was ready and willing to scrap the entire MAX series. I wonder what's REALLY going on behind the scenes...I know Boeing makes plenty of revenue as a defense contractor.

  • @encinobalboa
    @encinobalboa 3 месяца назад

    American Airlines should take optional stop bolts.

  • @alexmoran8769
    @alexmoran8769 3 месяца назад +1

    Good morning , i would like to know if you have a channel for latin people who do not speak english ?

  • @michaelosgood9876
    @michaelosgood9876 3 месяца назад +2

    Great to see Embraer mixing it with the big boys. Had to smile when you mentioned the order for 737 10s 😊. A deal, no doubt at bargain basement prices and purely because Airbus can't build A321s fast enough for American

  • @AshleyWincer
    @AshleyWincer 3 месяца назад +1

    That's good news for American Airlines. They do need to replace the former America West / US Airways A319s & A320s. They are getting on in age now..

    • @PC-hh1wf
      @PC-hh1wf 3 месяца назад

      on the other hand the Airbus dont loose doors midflight or crash due to Boeing made a computer system they forgot to tell pilots about

    • @Cactus732
      @Cactus732 3 месяца назад +2

      They’re not replacing the A319s or A320s. The part of the press release that this video missed was that the A319s and A320s will be retrofitted to the same standard as the A321 and 737-800s starting this year.

  • @iwitnessedit6713
    @iwitnessedit6713 3 месяца назад +4

    Having flown both the A321NEO is far superior to the MAX9 or the yet to be certified MAX10, which I'm sure will have a ludicrously fast approach speed, and with its Frankin Gear of boy lets just hope door issues are the least we hav to worry about.

  • @kristensorensen2219
    @kristensorensen2219 3 месяца назад

    American is a great namesake!!

  • @zachattack83
    @zachattack83 3 месяца назад

    They better put a better seat in the 175.

  • @geoffhemmings6546
    @geoffhemmings6546 3 месяца назад

    Hi. I have listened to many of your episdes. Well done...
    Just one relatively minor crit. only people are WHO. Everything else is WHICH.
    Ie, the pilot who, the gang which.... american airlines which......
    Keep up good work....

  • @wadehiggins1114
    @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +2

    Embraer really needed this order!

    • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
      @EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад

      Fr

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +1

      @@EuropeanRailfanAlt keep that production line going

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, it's sadly not part of the E2 series, which would make far more sense. But the scope clause says no.
      Not sure if Embraer can get the scope clause modified, but it would serve everyone if done in a sensible way.

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 3 месяца назад

      @@humongousballs I can only guess that the failed Boeing & Embraer merger might have had this too as a reason, in order to boost E2 sales.

  • @goarmysleepinthemud.
    @goarmysleepinthemud. 3 месяца назад +1

    It it's a Boeing it ain't going.

  • @BigPops757
    @BigPops757 3 месяца назад +2

    I think the Max 10 is intended to replace the 757s they retired.

    • @scottfleckner9658
      @scottfleckner9658 3 месяца назад +8

      I thought airlines were replacing the 757s with A321NEOs?

    • @BigPops757
      @BigPops757 3 месяца назад +5

      @@scottfleckner9658a bit of both. At the end of the day no aircraft can replace the 757 100%

    • @dcxplant
      @dcxplant 3 месяца назад +1

      The Embraer's are the 757 replacements.

    • @scottfleckner9658
      @scottfleckner9658 3 месяца назад +3

      @@dcxplant The Emb’s only carry 76 passengers? I don’t believe they are the 757 replacements

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@dcxplantthe A321s are.

  • @marcd1981
    @marcd1981 3 месяца назад

    You know with all of the MAX issues going on American negotiated some very good pricing for the MAX order, as they had Boeing in a tight spot with these aircraft not being produced for the near future. And all of the pluses talked about for the MAX aircraft are great on paper, but they won't mean much if any of them literally drop out of the sky.
    Speaking of a good deal, when American started ordering Airbus aircraft about 10 years ago now, in an admission from their own executives, they secured such a good deal on the order that they are willing to overlook the nagging every day maintenance issues that cause delays when they start their morning schedule. So of course they are ordering more neos, as they will be getting the best lease deals possible. And for those that don't know, everything is now leased by American, even all of the parts for these aircraft. Nothing owned makes it much easier if / when they need to bail.
    Might as well end on the negotiated deal theme. By ordering the number of aircraft American has, including the Embraer aircraft order just mentioned, not only are they getting a great initial deal on the aircraft, the lease deals give them an out. These aircraft will take years to get delivered, and a lot can / will happen with the airlines over this time frame. The lease deals allow them to back out of certain parts of these orders when needed, all while the top executives are raking in the money.

  • @Peter12029
    @Peter12029 3 месяца назад +1

  • @user-yc2oz8kc5k
    @user-yc2oz8kc5k 3 месяца назад +2

    I was not surprised by them ordering the MAX but by them going for the MAX 10 instead. So now AA and DL have both expressed their confidence on said model. Looks like UA now stands alone on its opinion.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 3 месяца назад +2

      United are committed to the 737-10

  • @ralphe5842
    @ralphe5842 3 месяца назад

    Onee delivered 😂.

  • @sainnt
    @sainnt 3 месяца назад +2

    Once Boeing starts delivering the jets that are yet to be certified, they will likely announce new middle market aircraft, including a new narrowbody aircraft. At that time, it's possible that American Airlines will cancel some of the A321neo orders.
    An order this large for the Max 10 is confirmation that the aircraft will soon be certified. Boeing already has a number of airframes ready to go.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 месяца назад

      Only if you can get the engines that can significantly outperform the current ones, especially GTF.

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt 3 месяца назад

      @@steinwaldmadchen The Max 10 uses the Leap 1B engines, which have proven to be more reliable than the PW engines.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 месяца назад

      ​@@sainnt LEAP-1B is compromised. It has a higher TSFC than -1A on A320NEOs, produces less thrust and runs hotter and faster. PW1100G at EIS was already more efficient than LEAP-1A, and will be even more efficient with the soon-to-be-ready GTF Advantage.
      Without a significantly more efficient engine there's no way Boeing can outperform A321NEO in efficiency and capability.

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt 3 месяца назад

      @@steinwaldmadchen First of all, the 737 is a smaller, lighter aircraft than the A320neo series, so having slightly less power is a non issue. The Leap 1C slots in between the two in terms of power, but is about the size of the A320, so that's where I suspect a slight power disadvantage. Also, I don't know why people are always talking about the 737 and A321 in the same conversation. The A321 is a larger aircraft, and as such would require more power anyway.
      I tell people all the time: the A321 is currently in a class by itself, which is why it's raking up record orders. The 737 is way more popular than the A320... it's not even close.
      With regards to the GTF, sure, it's going to have a slight advantage in terms of efficiency, but at the moment, it's causing nothing but financial headaches for airlines around the world. It's not being talked about when everyone is obsessed with Boeing quality control issues, but that issue is causing airlines much more money than the Boeing issues. Two airlines have already gone out of business because of it, and Spirit Airlines is on the brink.

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 3 месяца назад +3

    the A321-200 Neo & it's variants can single handedly cater to American Airlines need for single aisle aircraft that'll serve their vast domestic network . . . alternative single aisle narrow body jets like the B737-MAX9 & B737-MAX10 are just not needed, or the Embraer E-195 LR E2 for that matter . . . because the A321-200 Neo can do it all . . . look how IndiGo operates a fleet of only A321-200 Neo & A320-200 Neo narrow body jets . . . the low cost budget carrier has an order for a further 182 brand new A321-200 Neo & A321-200 Neo LR single-aisle narrow body jets as of 2023 . . .

  • @kendallwalls6695
    @kendallwalls6695 3 месяца назад +1

    Where are all these new planes supposed to fit, in our already-crowded skies? The nightmare cometh.

    • @marcd1981
      @marcd1981 3 месяца назад +1

      Crowded airports as well. A lot of the footage shown here was at LAX, and LAX has been running out of room over the past couple of years. They are literally taking down older structures (maintenance hangars) in order to build new terminal / gate areas. It was already a nightmare trying to move aircraft between hangars and terminals in the morning, taking 45 minutes to get an aircraft to its gate when without traffic it would take less than 5 minutes.

  • @Bmwjonte
    @Bmwjonte 3 месяца назад

    737 😮‍💨

  • @Turbojets_Channel
    @Turbojets_Channel 3 месяца назад +1

    I guess American is tapering off of international routes then. Their Triples are ancient and I see no massive orders to replace them

  • @eamador83
    @eamador83 3 месяца назад

    Are those Embraer bought by AAL or by the regionals? Big difference.

    • @thedumbaviator5536
      @thedumbaviator5536 3 месяца назад

      They lease them to the regionals

    • @eamador83
      @eamador83 3 месяца назад

      @@thedumbaviator5536 I don’t know how other regionals do it but my company buy those E175 directly from Embraer

    • @thedumbaviator5536
      @thedumbaviator5536 3 месяца назад

      @@eamador83 well idk then. It of course wouldnt make sense for AA to buy them ig

  • @sudhirlakshmanan
    @sudhirlakshmanan 3 месяца назад +1

    Please make a video about how embraer can make it big in the Indian market as many interior and regional airports in India have less demand and even are close to other.

  • @russellbenton2987
    @russellbenton2987 3 месяца назад +3

    I wonder if there was more availability on the A320-A321 if these 737MAXs would have been ordered, as you say A321 sold out into 2030s .

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад +1

      That's a good question

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 3 месяца назад

      I'm curious if all of them will be built in the end. After all, the time required could easily be too long as new plane types will enter the market one day.
      And then Airbus can't just sit on their orders doing nothing besides building outdated designs.

    • @isthatso5616
      @isthatso5616 3 месяца назад +1

      That's why they're courting United for a potential A321 follow up order, for delivery starting as early as next year..
      If they want to lock in new orders, there's always a way to fit them in !!

    • @kentfrederick8929
      @kentfrederick8929 3 месяца назад

      I read on another site that Boeing has different prices for the MAX 7, 8, 9, and 10. As the plane lengthens, the price goes up.
      Airbus is basically charging the same price for all neos, whether A319, A320, or A321, because any plane takes a production slot.
      Because of that, I'm a bit surprised that AA didn't order more MAX 8 or even MAX 7s, since it has and will retire A319s, A320s, and 737-800s. By the end of 2000, AA had 50 737-800s. Those should be getting close to retirement.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 месяца назад

      @@kentfrederick8929 Demand growth combined with increase labour cost / shortage, means it would be more economical to fly fewer flights with larger aircraft.
      Besides MAX7 (and A319NEO) has a poor seat cost. It would be cheaper to operate bigger MAXes wherever possible.

  • @RegM86
    @RegM86 3 месяца назад +2

    737-10. Basically 757 style passenger load.

  • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
    @EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад +3

    American trying to be like Air India by doing a large order of multiple manufacturers

    • @marv6017
      @marv6017 3 месяца назад +2

      I think the opposite! American Airlines has had a diverse fleet now for decades and their business model is being adopted by other airline carriers…

    • @jshotwell454
      @jshotwell454 3 месяца назад +8

      Umm…More like Air India trying to be like America. Don’t forget that American once placed the largest ever single order back in 2011 for 460 aircrafts

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 3 месяца назад +2

    Interesting that they chose Embraer but not A220

    • @marcd1981
      @marcd1981 3 месяца назад +1

      SCOPE and route issues don't allow that aircraft to be flown.

    • @thedumbaviator5536
      @thedumbaviator5536 3 месяца назад

      Please just do some research

  • @Arational
    @Arational 3 месяца назад +6

    I guess that American Airlines execs did not watch Last Week Tonight's focus on Boeing on Sunday night's show.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 3 месяца назад

      why should they need to?

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 3 месяца назад

      @@nickolliver3021because they talked about stuff you wouldn’t like to hear

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tomstravels520 says you who has no idea and says anything that comes to first thought

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 3 месяца назад

      @@nickolliver3021 go and watch it then and tell me you enjoyed it. Considering a lot of it is what people say here and you get snappy at them I can imagine you throwing the remote at the tv

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 3 месяца назад

      @@nickolliver3021 go and watch it then and tell me how much you enjoyed it

  • @TheWolfHowling
    @TheWolfHowling 3 месяца назад +7

    With this Embraer order, I’d be curious if American would be quietly stepping up lobbying efforts to expand the Scope Clause that currently excludes the newer, more efficient Embraer E175-E2 & this current EJet order is getting American their foot in the door & place in the queue.

    • @soccerguy2433
      @soccerguy2433 3 месяца назад +4

      i would love a reworked scope clause to accommodate the E2 jet. The GW limit is needs updating to accommodate these larger enginest

    • @TheWolfHowling
      @TheWolfHowling 3 месяца назад

      @@soccerguy2433 The current limit of MTOW is 86k LBS, which does seem sort of arbitrary, but I guess the line had to be drawn somewhere🤷‍♂️. However, in my admittedly uninformed view on the topic, if there are still only 76 seats, does it meaningfully change the "passenger experience"? Or Operating dynamics? Should an aircraft be over this magic MTOW number.

    • @flaps45
      @flaps45 3 месяца назад +3

      A scope clause is not something that is "lobbied" anywhere. It is part of the working contract between American Airlines and their pilots. If the company wants to change the scope clause, it has to be negotiated during the next employment contract negotiations between management and pilots at that airline. Right now, no mainline pilots anywhere in the US are interested or willing to allow scope to be expanded because that allows more outsourcing of their jobs. Asking a major airline pilot to allow expanded scope is analogous to asking them to allow their jobs to be outsourced to lower-paid pilots working for another company. Would anyone with a highly skilled, difficult-to-get job agree to that? Also keep in mind, AA (or DAL or UAL) is free to order as many Embraer E2s as they want-- they just have to be operated by the mainline airline, instead of outsourced to Envoy, Republic, Skywest, or some other regional carrier.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 месяца назад

      @@flaps45 Current trend seems to suggest scope clause won't be relieved any time soon. Pilots are hard to get, and airlines have to upgauge and raise pay to cope with it. It's unlikely the unions would give in when things are in their favour.

    • @TheWolfHowling
      @TheWolfHowling 3 месяца назад

      @@flaps45 If American is going to be the operator of these aircraft, then not selecting the E175-E2 makes even less sense. If the aim of this order is for a modern, efficient fleet, why would they choose a design that's new & improved? The E175 is a stretch of the E170, which was announced in 1999, had its maiden fight in 2002, & entered service in 2004. Meaning American just bought a 20+yr old design. Why not see if Airbus & Boeing would be interested in building American some A321ceo & 737NG. RN, the E175-E2 program, which was originally planned to enter service in 2021, has been halted. However, with sufficient incentive, I wouldn't be surprised if Embraer could be persuaded to spin development back up.

  • @davenicholls1596
    @davenicholls1596 3 месяца назад +1

    Airlines have got to realise there are people who will not fly on any Max plane. Boeing need to learn you can't update an old design with bigger engines and use software to over come the aerodynamic issues caused by bigger engines to an old frame. It will only take one more serious issue with the max family and Boeing will be in serious trouble. Profit before safety.

  • @lawrencepll76
    @lawrencepll76 3 месяца назад +9

    I’m really interested to know why did they not order the A220-100, or the E175-E2?

    • @kentfrederick8929
      @kentfrederick8929 3 месяца назад +4

      The A220 would be introducing a new aircraft type, meaning more training and staffing costs.
      Considering that since the start of the pandemic, AA has retired the 757, 767, A330, and Embrear 195, adding a type probably was not likely.

    • @markmay699
      @markmay699 3 месяца назад +5

      The pilot scope clause won’t allow the E2 unless it’s flown at the mainline.

    • @genxer74
      @genxer74 3 месяца назад +3

      mainline scope clauses limit regional aircraft seating capacity to 76 seats. So you'll never see the 190 or the E2 at regional airlines, and they are just too small to run for mainlines. ULCC's however are free to use them if they like. Breeze for example had some 190's but the CEO really likes the A220 over the Embraer jet.

    • @lawrencepll76
      @lawrencepll76 3 месяца назад

      @@genxer74 However the 175 E2 is the same size as the 175, but more efficient. It baffles me that AA has gone for the older model.

    • @thedumbaviator5536
      @thedumbaviator5536 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lawrencepll76they are heavier and dont fit the scope clause.

  • @d.wagnerRE
    @d.wagnerRE 3 месяца назад

    The travel booking website kayak now let you select the equipment that you would like to fly on. I.e. not Boeing.!

  • @Blank00
    @Blank00 3 месяца назад +3

    Who is most likely to be the regional partner for the 90 Embraers?

    • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
      @EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад

      Either Envoy Air, Republic Airways or SkyWest are the most probable since they already operate a lot of E175s.

  • @leftenentcrittendon3134
    @leftenentcrittendon3134 3 месяца назад

    AA must have gotten a huge discount.

  • @jeremydee5424
    @jeremydee5424 3 месяца назад +2

    I guess I’m confused as to why AA and DL ordered the -10 and 321NEOs when they have similar amount of seats and range.

    • @Sakura_Matou
      @Sakura_Matou 3 месяца назад

      The 737 is a bit more durable and better for higher cycles, while the Airbus is better for longer routes.

  • @controlfreak1963
    @controlfreak1963 3 месяца назад

    Boeing is going to include door bolts at no extra charge.

  • @nycsubwayfan998
    @nycsubwayfan998 3 месяца назад

    We all know how the 9 went.

  • @SuperEdge67
    @SuperEdge67 3 месяца назад

    You wouldn’t get me to fly on a 737MAX.

  • @skbenergy
    @skbenergy 3 месяца назад

    Would love to see the 737 MAX 10 my way :) !!!

  • @stephenmitchell-we8wi
    @stephenmitchell-we8wi 3 месяца назад +1

    From Airbus, right not Boeing the junkyard of the sky😂

  • @jasonkrines1648
    @jasonkrines1648 3 месяца назад

    Sounds good if you ask me

  • @kesgraveklaxon5586
    @kesgraveklaxon5586 3 месяца назад

    are737 max variants currently suffering serious quality issues causing serious operating failures failures?

  • @smbtecpl
    @smbtecpl 3 месяца назад

    Just flew Jetstar’s A321 Neo, it was very disappointing. 28.5 inch seat pitch, only 3 toilets (tiny), and seats that might as well be a bare metal frame, the padding was nonexistent

  • @hugheffo
    @hugheffo 3 месяца назад +3

    I wouldn’t trust Boeing to build a fridge without leaving out half the bolts