Coleman Hughes: Reparations Debate
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2019
- Taken from the Bric TV Reparations Town Hall:
• Reparations Now? | #BH...
"We can either direct resources toward the individuals who most need them, or we can direct them toward the socioeconomically-diverse members of historical victim groups. But we cannot direct the same resources in both directions at once. In 2019, “black” and “poor” are not synonyms. Every racial group in America contains millions of people who are struggling and millions of people who are not, and if any debt is owed, it is to the former." From Coleman's essay on Reparations: quillette.com/2019/03/17/repa...
We as black people never clap for the people making the most sense, it's always for the ones who appeal to our victimization and emotions...
You sound like some ridiculous white supremacist! No race of people want to think of themselves as victims, but if in fact you have been victimized in every sense of the word, don't try to tell me it's something else. This country (America) has victimized people of color as if it was a sacred religion !
@@hubertlynch9931 make it plan sir!
@@hubertlynch9931 you mean to say only black ppl are victimized? What you mean to say is only black ppl continue to live with a victimhood mentality, while other victimized whites, brown and yellow folks continue to move forward to earn a better life and refuse to be a victim of the past.
That's not true
@@hubertlynch9931 I like how you, and I'm assuming you're white, tried to tell a person of color how to feel about these conditions.
Just like a liberal to try and control a black individuals emotions.
This is why emotional people make poor leaders they would see their nation burn before making the logical decision.
Well said!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
So true. It's not about feelings it's about reality. Regardless of which side one may be on.
@@skinblossom5958 Too late, honey.
Russian bots are all over youtube.
Boom!
"You know something that all of the mainstream economists and historians in Zimbabwe don't know." The single greatest comeback in history.
I wish they didn't cut to the next big after that. I wanted to see her response.
The guy with the blue shirt : “that’s absurd”
*the crowd starts clapping*
This really emphasised how brainless the crowd was, clapping for overdramatised statements that follow no facts or logical adherent argument. Genuinely makes me lose hope.
If the stupidity continues. I’m moving to the Bahamas
I can relate.
Its not just that dumb people are everywhere ruining society for everyone else, but its also that they seemingly can never be changed and they can be easily led. More and more I'm seeing why the "red pilled" people say the things they say.
It's also ironic that Coleman was basically saying 'I'm a privileged person, and I don't need these services, so I'd be happy to defer them to someone else.' and somehow *THAT* doesn't get applause from lefties? I mean, what do these people even stand for?
Scott Kay they stand for victimisation, the democratic media fed them this narrative that if they don’t succeed at anything, example being Job application it’s fully linked to their skin colour, they never analyse the application to see why they didn’t successfully get the job. This basically indoctrinates them to believing they don’t have the equal opportunity as other races when they genuinely do, it’s a democratic ideology fed to get more votes and dehumanise the less educated black demographic.
@@thescoon1 it destroys the narrative that a person of that skin color could have the privileges Coleman has, and takes away power from people who have been saying "Give us power/money...we're the only ones who can make your life better, because your skin color will always keep you back". Coleman shatters the narratvie that skin color is the only thing that matters, and helps substantiate the claim that even if your ethnic group as awhole is more disadvantaged, individuals within it (and enough individuals doing it does impact the group/collective, right?) can succeeded, gain those privileges, and pass it on to their next generation.....not saying easy, or fair etc etc...just possible......but a lot of power is tied up in the perception it's not.
when confronted with facts people get louder and nervous... coleman is a class act.
Dude's cool as a cucumber. 😎😎😎
This is rightfully a heated debate. Seems small hearted to expect a debate about racial injustice to be be “cool.” I think it’s easy to be cool when one is arguing that an injustice doesn’t exist or is exaggerated because in your eyes folks haven’t been wronged. Stakes are low
Caldera Blackwood No. you calmly make your point, back it with reasoning and facts and don’t just emotionally chalk everything up to Racism. Because that’s the go to when confronted by facts.
Pouch King I don’t see why being emotional about this and being logical are mutually exclusive. Facts were brought up here. And there’s plenty of research on systemic racism + reparations if you’re interested. Wondering what you thought was illogical and chalked up to racism
Caldera Blackwood emotion is fine when it’s well placed, not when it’s used in an attempt to trump reason, data, or as if it’s a point within in self that deserves any recognition. Notice when after Coleman lays out the facts of why Zimbabwe economy failed he was met with emotion “are you kidding me”, that’s ridiculous”, those were cheered responses that dismissed his well articulated explanation of facts even though they had none themselves. It speaks to how dishonest, naive, and ignorant most have become about issues and halts public discourse from being productive.
It's impossible for people who didn't do the wrong to apologize to people who didn't experience it
The US gov still exists lol
@@isaacwang1926 ah yes, and each member of Congress is 180 years old and grew up during the period of American slavery. How soon we forget
Isaac Wang so does the government of England, they killed , and put my Irish ancestors off our land and gave it to English and Irish Protestant’s forcing my people to leave our homeland. I want my reparations from the English government.
@Adam Alperstein because no one would take you seriously. Only in an emotionally charged atmosphere does the concept of reparations make sense. Once you try to logically implement it. The whole concept falls apart.
Any reparation should be paid by the Confederate government which is to say "the Democrats". The Republicans were the abolitionist party. The Democrats are the party of slavery, Jim Crow, lynching and opposition to civil rights in the sixties. They would also like you to forget their history.
One highly intelligent individual speaking to a room of goldfish.
Haha some guppies
Yup. That pretty much sums it up.
Did you know God will use a dumb person to confine the so-called wise? Keep this in mind.
As a Zimbabwean, Coleman Hughes is spot on.
if you're white, your opinion doesn't count. apparently.
Why is everyone responding to Coleman with things that don't address his points?
Because his intellect is in the clouds while everyone else is hacking through bushes.
And now you see why the left is vapid horse shit
Because they cannot address his points.
Because they don’t have a point.
They want compensation for their ancestors suffering and vengeance for their shortcomings which are most likely due to having a victim mentality which are blamed on racism. Even after huge cheques and or chunks of land are given they will always hold slavery over white people. Even whites that have nothing to do with or are related to slave owners.
This man had the whole room against him and they still couldn't beat lmaoooo
Unfortunately for them, Coleman brought with him something that gives him what his opponents might consider to be an unfair advantage:
a human brain
Exactly
@John Coppers I agree with your point, I would add what Coleman Hughes stated that reparations means different things to different people. So I think that 8% might not be entirely accurate. At the least it could change especially in light of recent events. John McWhorter also rightly points out(IMO)(at least in years past)that reparations have already been given in the form of social welfare, affirmative action,to use your example, etc. I think this argument also appears relevant.
@John Coppers just how smart is he? he colonized your nation (and still keeps it crippled to this day), enslaved your ancestors for generations on a land he stole and then blessed you with a lethal amount of racism, and after all that, he still managed to convince you not to demand your reparations. made you desire his wealth and intellect... got you on his side. just close enough to keep you calm feeling good about yourself. just not close enough to threaten his power. bet you wish you were that smart :)
@John Coppers i think you are that smart. congrats! you made it :)
Coleman is the only person on this panel who is capable of drawing a bridge between his philosophy and the real world.
So Coleman Hughes says in the same breath, that holocaust survivors were given reparations by the German Government, while saying its impossible to establish whether reparations are due. The US government collected taxes on unpaid extorted labor and directly earned money from slavery. That creates a debt that is due. How you pay it out is separate question.
Coleman is a force to be reckoned with. Eloquent and cool headed at all times. An inspiration for any kind of person.
The big girl keeps using “holistic” inappropriately.
She likes holistic triple cheeseburgers for breakfast, lunch, and dinner everyday.
who cares
Noah Fletcher Me.
@@Dweller415 who cares
She "has a thing for holes" perhaps......and is getting them confused/conflated. 😂
"That's a white thing." Wow.
Hey, u aren't supposed to get offended by that. At least that's how society has made it seem. If it was the other way around, then there would be a problem. But I guess that is something to be proud of bc the way I see it, is that it's allowed because white skin is beautiful. It's a compliment.
*Applause*
Chris No What made come to that answer. If you were able to turn that question around and framed it as a black thing would it carry the same meaning of “justice” or would it seem racist?
I had to scoff at that comment... we want to talk about being equal but instead this whole political ideology of racism in America is tilting the other way...
@@alexdiaz1492to people it would be 100% racist. To me, if it's acceptable for whites, it should be acceptable for everyone else.
After watching Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams , and Coleman Hughes as n American Mexican I went from liberal to conservative/libertarian.
Welcome man👊💪
Amen brother!! American Mexican here too and Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell and Candace Owens made me switch as well.
Why? Coleman isn't conservative/ libertarian, he's actually liberal. If you think switching political sides is intellectual growth, you're mistaken.
@@michaeleverest3487 someone's salty 😩
Same bro
The man actually spoke up and said we got $10, and not just alcohol? Wow. Shameless.
Max Cringe
And stupid
How ironic that these people choose to be enslaved voluntarily by their own past
mark lee more like their ancestor’s past
i guess racism ended with slavery?
ONE -well certainly it’s about in all my brother/sisters of all perceived colors. It is just a matter of is it being exercised or exorcised? And to what degree
@@brianjoyce9040 thanks for the clarification. if i understand correctly, there is still racism?
ONE -I know this may sound in bad faith, which ruins most chance of conversation, but here goes. So what you’re saying is, you don’t believe, I believe racism exists or where and with whom it exist? Is that correct? In my mind I have answered your pointed question in the affirmative and stated how it exists in the present. And in my hopes for the future. As an actor said with style, “....did I stutter...” or more recently, “....crystal....clear”. WORD. PEACE
I did some quick reading, and that black woman has a fantasy version of the collapse of the Zimbabwe economy. She's basically arguing, "racists ruined the economy" when the truth is that poor decision making by politicians coupled with terrible corruption led to the collapse, which has basically been on the downward slope for 2 decades. The stupidity of the two women on the left is shameful. Get someone who is qualified to challenge Coleman Hughes on stage for Christ's sake.
Yelling racism because that's the only explanation she can conceive. It's the lack of education that is holding black Americans back
I don't know where you got your informations but the lady is right about the facts. The banks decided to boycott the Zimbabweans economy because they took their lands back. The western farmers, 6000 of them who at this time took possession of 40% of the land, had an agreement with the new Zimbabwean government to exploit the land for 10 more years and then give them back to the Zimbabwean , it was during the Lancaster House agreement, signed in 1979. When the time had arrived, the western farmers refused to give the land back. When they were evicted , the banks and many European countries decided to boycott and have an embargo on the Zimbabwean's economy, that's the reason why the economy went down.
Chaotic land reform & sanctions by the west partly contributed to the collapse of the Zim economy
@@chichoc007 Mugabe lost a referendum in which he was trying to push through constitutional changes. He last badly. And realised that his hold on power was at risk. Then the farm invasions started. Military Veterans (some to young to have been alive in 1980) invaded farms. And what is often forgotten often pushed black workers off the farm. Farms very quickly landed in the hands of connected government officials. Wrapping this up as some kind of restitution completely misses the context of why and the execution of how. The economy did tank, completely. The Zim dollar was worth more than the rand in 1998/99. It would eventually become completely and totally worthless. The ruling elites blamed the UK and USA for sanctions. The truth is the elites had hollowed out their cash generating commercial farmers. I'm not sure when you determine when someone is "western", most are multigenerational residents in Zimbabwe. But that's another matter. Where did these farmers go? Many of them to Malawi, DRC and Zambia where they took their skills and were welcomed into the economy. Zim lost a massive resource ito skills and fiscal revenue. And it all tracks back to politics. Buts its presented and eaten up as some kind of restitution. The poor suffered so much about 3million moved to South Africa, if that isn't a sign of completely self serving elite I'm not sure what else is.
@@chichoc007 so banks decided to pull money out when the Zimbabwe government decided to completely disregard property rights, usurp the rule of law, and destroy any semblance of stability, and used the "reparations" movement for corruption, cause they were white supremacists? hahahah.
My friends from Zimbabwe typically say this:
Zimbabwe was prosperous before, but then the government marched in and rightfully took land from the White colonizer descendent farmers. The problem arose when they not only gave the farms to people who didn't know how to farm, it was also because they gave the farms to their friends (nepotism/corruption) instead of Zimbabwean citizens who knew how to farm. Then after that followed a drought which brought a lot more issues for these new farmers, crops were being mishandled and dying off. Then investors pulled out because they saw the changes in the country going south. Even VW who was making cars in Zim left. After that came sanctions by the West, which hurt African countries a lot by trying to put pressure on their governments, which instead puts pressure on and suffocates the people, while the governments still prosper, in hopes of creating an uprising. Then after sanctions, the government started printing money, which caused inflation, then boom 2008 recession hits. So basically according to them, both Hughes and the other Lady are right, but they're both not including other important factors like government corruption, mismanagement, sanctions, drought, inflation, and more.
Either way, I hope the best for the African countries in re-establishing order and prospering once again!
I'm Zimbabwean and that analysis is essentially correct. However there is another factor which needs to be added; namely the fact that during the land invasions - which affected about 5000 farms in total - the black workers who had been working and living on that land were also forced to leave their jobs and homes. Few were allowed back. Economic estimates put the total population of disposessed black Zimbabweans, who lost their livelihoods as a direct consequence of land invasions, at about half a million people (out of a total population of about 12 million). This had a devastating impact on the wider economy and Zimbabwe was in full recession long before the inflationary cycle or the 2008 financial crisis.
*_Envy Kills!_* and little more than that needs to be said. If a country drives all the successful immigrants out of the country,.. then poverty will necessarily always result.
The key factor in economic success is security of ownership. When people or business have no confidence that what they own will still be theirs at the end of the year, they do not invest. It's not about white supremacy, it's poor political judgement.
@@leehallam9365 I'm not sure if you're talking to me or to the original poster. Yes, I couldn't agree with you more a degradation of property rights is a surefire way to dismantle an economy - which is precisely what happened in Zimbabwe. The point I was trying to make was that, in addition to the illegal seizure of property and assets of white farmers under Mugabe's land invasions an entire underclass of black Zimbabweans was also created....something that "the left" never ever mentions.
Thanks for clarifying. I have never heard of this event until I saw this video. The left's argument made it seem like he was saying the farms shouldn't have been taken from the White owners to begin with. So yes factors like corruption and mismanagement would definitely explain why investors would pull out. Although in defense of the left, maybe he shouldn't have used such an emotionally charged situation to explain another emotionally charged situation. That was when things escalated.
Coleman, I appreciate your ability to express yourself without vitriol, without stooping to your opponents' tactics of personal, emotional attacks and to state your points with facts and with courage. You are an excellent example of how to communicate. Thank you.
“Reparation is victimizing a group of people without their consent”
@La Verne People shouldn't have to pay for the actions of their ancestors.
@La Verne You know that the government is funded by taxpayers money right?
And,not all white people today benefit from slavery.
Not all white people are even related to slave owners.
Not all black people are descendants of slaves.
Not all black people are poor and unprivileged,so they are not effected by slavery "as a group".
@La Verne Jesus Christ. Where do you think government money comes from? If you print it, there is inflation. It comes from taxes, i.e. every tax-paying citizen
Coleman against 4... didnt seem fair... should have brought more against him, LOL!
Facts dont care for victimhood and feelings.
👏👏👏👏 thank you!!
Imagine Ben Shapiro and Coleman Hughes against all of the congress lol
Maine Blanco his victim complex comment was clearly mean for loosers like you, you weeb.
@@Kommiekiller people like you are always in minorities business when it doesn't even concern you. We aren't victims, our ancestors were victims. They were beat, castrated, lied to, experimented on giving rise to the current medical systems, given as bonds to start colleges and banking companies people attend today. Jp Morgan and Harvard for example. Our families were broken apart and records of our history were literally burned to nothing, they took our identities i can't even go back more than 2 maybe 3 generations, they called us black which has absolutely no standing in law, called us 3/5ths of humans just for voting edge, don't even teach us our actual history in schools, took our languages. Then after they freed blacks they discriminated against them for another hundred years, barred them from voting either through terrorism or through policies, couldn't even walk on the same sidewalk as whites sometimes, restricted educational opportunities, barred them from communities, excluded them from work unions, couldn't get bank loans, couldn't get decent medical care. Then when they were segregated and made a way for themselves the government would literally bomb their communities, took all the good paying jobs out of the communities, flooded them with drugs and guns but allowed foreigners to occupy those same neighborhoods with drug stores and abortion clinics with bank loans they denied blacks. Only stating facts would come of as claiming victomhood to a complete dotard like yourself. That's why cowards like you never use your real names and then cry when someone calls you a name. You're not even man enough to own your racism proudly. Little bitch.
Coleman aint even black he is puertican
It looks like they got Colman Hughs and then went to the bus station and said "hey, anybody wanna be on TV?!!"
Definitely Bus Station folk. Lol
The short bus... Station.
That's hilarious.
That long haired dude sounded like he got on an 'LSD bus' in the 60s and never got off.
I had a highschool teacher like that. I think hes still on the bus ...
I was on that bus and still on it, still wearing the same tye dyed shirt too. Peace signs and rainbows abound and can't forget the black light.
Dude thinks he’s native. lol 😂
Now you’re just citing random facts?
Facts are anything but random lol
He’s playing chess at a checkers match.
More like chess with people playing connect 4
Checkers is played at fairly high level, Kasparov played checkers..
@@jean-claudefrancoisbaroudd730 , nice! Also, you unwittingly proved the premise of the statement "He's playing chess at a checker's match" which would then counter your counterpoint of random facts since it actually supports the claim of non-random facts?
@@philossifer6252 I might have missed your point here (I'm very tired right now sorry...) Could you explain why it's funny please ? (This is a genuine question by the way, not cynicism, if I said something stupid and you made a good joke I will laugh at it !)
Just to clarify I was "seconding" Anthony Coleman's comment, checkers can be a very difficult game...
@@philossifer6252 chess has approximately 10^15790 possible matches while checkers is 10^18, lol.
I feel like anytime I hear Hughes speak anymore his opposition only ever reacts in emotion they never have a real argument or anything that actually challenges his side and makes you think it’s just pure reaction
Because he is very intelligent and they others know they can't compete.
No. Hughes is the one with no valid argument against our country finally dealing with the elephant in the room...
Yeah notice they attack him, and not what he's saying
@@reneethomas5937 yeah thats why he calmly dominates their ignorant opinions with rational arguments. His IQ matches 3 of theirs combined
He's not African-American! He's a fraud and trying to come up off the topic of reperations!
The guy hosting the debate is so clearly biased its annoying
0815 you realize this comment is racist ??
Micah Judging people based on the clothes they wear is not racist.
Jimmy Googer “0815” is not judging merely from the clothes they are wearing and even if he was there’s a lot to be said about that also .”the host seemed like he was in drugs “ what makes you assume that ??
Micah
What makes you assume it’s racism behind his statement?
Micah tbf the ‘host seeming like hes on drugs’ is the part of that statement that LEAST implies racism. Drugs are universal, in this day and age they completely transcend race and associating drugs with race is such an outdated stereotype. Perhaps he appears to be on drugs because he looked as though high to said person?
One of the weirdest "debates" i've ever seen. No cohesion or organization. Coleman addresses the question and then three or four different people respond with something completely unrelated. Why does every predominantly leftist debate resemble something like this? Also that native they have on their panel (i'm assuming he's native american) is just a complete racist and never once brings anything productive to the conversation. When you bring someone like that in to normalize their deluded perspective of the current world you're not building bridges, you're spreading tribalism.
It has the appearance of fairness. Yet do you see the soft totalitarianism? If you don’t agree, your a anathema.
Every Presidential debate is the same......just attack the other person, point out their flaws and mistakes. Don't take responsibility or accountability for your decisions and failures. The first rule in the Trump-Biden Debate (if there ever is one) should be: "You can't attack the other guy....talk about what you have done".
Jesus....... I barely made it out of high school in regard to my education and was able to grasp Coleman's concept of "Reparations are functionally worth nothing if done in a way that destroys everything."
But hey, at least those folks in Zimbabwe got their land back to continue being poor and destitute with...
They always will be. Progress is a white idea.
@@GJC-lh4mi made me think of the Bad Religion song. Which is relevant
sounds like you didn't need high school in the first place. you're critical thinking ability surpasses most college students
@cwr8618 thats very kind of you. I'm a trucker by trade. Coleman's podcast/videos are among my favorite to enjoy. I also enjoy Thomas Sowell and finished John McWhorter audiobook "white racism". I enjoyed it emmensly.
@@ArkansasInfidel great authors for sure. truckers are the underappreciated vascular network of our societies. tough life but necessary
Reparations have meant “a check” in cultural discourse for as long as I can remember. The dictionary definition also specifically mentions money. Criminal justice reform is a completely separate tactic and should not be put under the category of this much more controversial word.
This entire conversation is a lament about semantics. If you can’t agree what words mean, you’re bound to keep going around in circles.
Until there is agreement about what terms mean, it’s very important that nothing is started. Otherwise one side will use language to deceive the other side.
Coleman Hughes: Stone. Cold. Killer. - and the only person with an IQ over 100 on the panel.
The fat black lady had a capable brain. She was quick on her feet, just overly emotional with idealogical, bad ideas.
6:16 What? I’m of Italian ancestry, so likely you’d say I’m “white” (I have my own feelings about this but for sake of argument let’s say ok I’m white). I have never ever (in my entire life) been around a group of any race that talks about going to hang someone of another race. Who are you talking about, no really who, name names?
Also, as far as hate speech goes, I do see a lot from both black and white people. All this us vs them rhetoric out there is far from uncommon on both sides, and it’s simply going to fuel more racism (not less). It isn’t us vs them, it’s “we”. If we don’t start treating each other as we, nothing will ever get better.
I made the same point ... that's some pretty distancing racism that would be hard to overcome if that guy was in the lives of any white people. Not that I blame him for feeling that way.
When the rift between parties finally comes to a close, it will be because of people like Coleman Hughes.
Shut your stupid a$$ up. That is the dumbest nonsense I've ever heard
@@ndthomp No, Mr. Thornberry. Let him speak. He might be on to something here.
@@stumbybeenbo5791 but he's not, he's selling out his own race. We don't want money from whites. Most of them are broke and can only support themselves. We want money from the government for constantly using slave labor, reneging on treaties, breaking apart families and forcibly moving blacks from country to country
Yeah not all skinfolk are kin folk, he and Candace Owens would make very interesting offspring. Unfortunately for the child it would become suicidal.
@@ndthomp Can you elaborate, or are you nothing but empty headed insults?
zimbabwe repared the white farmers because they were literally starving without them.
And the genocided them when they became socialist
Why are white farmers in a black African nation? Prior to whites colonizing Zimbabwe I'm sure the natives were fine.
His point had nothing to do with whether the white farmers got reparations or not. They tripped on that because they only see issues in terms of "that other person got something I want" and group identity. This is tribalism in concept.
The point he was making is that if you burn the system, you go back to the stone age and you starve and end up back in petty wars and tribal skirmishes where people kill each other over silly nonsense...
Exactly like has happened all over Africa for literally thousands of years, long before the white Europeans even existed as a major seafaring society, much less set foot in Africa.
Tribalism is the true enemy, but they welcome it like a sweet liver.
So they gave them money to do nothing? How did that end their starvation? How dumb are you people???
The real problem is that these people have been around for thousands of year feeding themselves now they can't like most of us in this world. We've been depended on a market for basic and when it come to basic farming these people can't do it. If you know anything about farming modern or otherwise, there has to be an infrastructure to support it with money seed and you have to plant at a certain time. Institution have to want to work with you. I'm sure the money people in Zimbabwe couldn't wait to see them fail.
”johnny drives a snow plough, im johnnys cousin” wtf lmao
The supposed Native American with blue eyes is now an expert on everything? He made little sense the entire time he spoke.
I think what he was trying to say is, hypothetically, if I am Johnny's cousin what can I do for my "enslaved" cousin. Regardless, hypotheticals are not arguments. The guy clearly could not manifest any kind of thought beyond hyperbole and hypotheticals.
@@RegularCupOfJoe I thought he meant that the snow plow was a metaphor for Johnny clearing a path towards reparations and what does he do to help.
Coleman is not the hero we deserve... but the hero we need right now
Ehhh I doubt that, he’s has no real skills let alone valued solutions outside of his absolute worthless BA In philosophy !
"so you know something that all of the mainstream economists, historians and journalists in Zimbabwe don't know" - OWNED😂
Here's the issue (with debates in general), when someone mentions a specific problem, the opposing side will inflate to look at the bigger picture (then vice versa). It should be noted that she's not wrong, however he's not wrong either. Really both sides maintain a valid point, that the pulling out of white farmers did impact the economy greatly but definitely wasn't the only problem that country was facing.
@@thephilosopher7173 dude she right out said that it was because of "white supremacy" lmfao
@@dribblesg2 Exactly. The only colors investors care about are green and gold, the color of money. And if you do not have a profitable business venture for them, they will pull their funding and cut their losses. If you take away the skilled labor that makes the business function and replace it with people who have no training, the business will fail to be profitable. Simple economics.
The correct way to handle the Zimbabwe situation would have been for the government to buy out the investors shares of the land, give it to the people who historically owned the land, and allow them to employ the farmers while the farmers pay reasonable taxes and fees for residing on the land. Okay maybe that isn't the "correct" way to handle the situation, but it sure is a heck of a lot smarter than killing the experts in their field (hah, a pun) who know what they are doing. It's like when BLM had that extremely sad attempt at farming in CHAZ. People were so stupid they thought they could just throw a half an inch of potting soil over newspaper and plant some random seeds down and boom, tomorrow they have food. No knowledge of how farming works, and they gave up after trying for a few days. Let's face it, these kids would starve if society didn't take care of them and provide for them.
Let Zimbabwe people figure it out. They can decide who they want in their country period.
@@hm7563 Let's reframe that statement using other examples because I'm not sure you realize how horrible what you've just said is.
"Let Zimbabwe people figure it out. They can decide whether they want white people in their country period."
"Let American people figure it out. They can decide whether they want black people in their country period."
"Let Isreali people figure it out, They can decide who they want in their country period."
"Let German people figure it out, They can decide whether they want Jews in their country period"
The moment you've justified one country removing citizenship from a group it doesn't like or doesn't want, you also justified any state doing the same with the minorities that IT doesn't like either.
Coleman realizes all too well that you can't argue with liberals because they don't use facts only emotion.
You can Equally say that about conservatives they can be no less Emotional than liberals," Make America Great again" is nothing more than an appeal to Vanity
@@leebennett1821 No I don't believe you can. The mere essence of the left is driven by a small number of radicals that operate purely on emotion. These types are the ones that inhabit twitter and can't be reasoned with because a differing opinion is not allowed. You will be labeled a racist, transphobic, white-supremacist, etc. Being able to logically argue your position means being willing to possibly admit you are wrong and the left simply will not do that.
@GLADIATOR SHI'AR MVP Well, I can have a conversation with those on the right and have disagreements. Try going on twitter and disagree with someone about the science on transgenders or bring up any of the statistics about black violence. You will be banned from twitter and doxxed within minutes.
Would you believe that Coleman leans left pretty darn hard? In other videos he talks passionately about the U.S. needing a less punitive criminal justice system, major healthcare changes, stated that paying reparations directly to some of the older people who lived directly under Jim Crow would be a good idea, among many other things.
@@Regdren I believe he is intelligent enough to have multi-faceted opinions about most things including politics and not embrace the herd mentality that permeates today's political landscape.
This guy is amazing. He’s one of the few actual intellectuals going around and debating.
This is the first video that I've seen on this guy and I am very impressed by the way he communicates. That was an incredible display of composure and if he would've spoke over, interrupted, or degraded anyone's opinion tension would have escalated but he kept things classy. I look forward into watching more videos of him.
He has his own podcast and RUclips channel now - Conversations With Coleman.
As a Zimbabwean, I have heard other elderly black Zimbabweans actually say that life was better before independence from white rule. I am not advocating white rule, every country deserves its independence but Robert Mugabe drove the countries economy into the ground and its current president is continuing the trend. People can’t afford bread and are literally starving in the streets. The white farmers (who worked alongside and hired black workers, one of the most sought out jobs at the time) were the last backbone and ‘reparations’ destroyed that. I remember being on a farm and witnessing the take over happen. Men would drive up in trucks with weapons and burn it to the ground but do you know who were the first people to stand up and defend the white farmers? The black farm hands. Just think about this - a government caused so much devastation to its own people that they have now openly admitted that life was better under white oppressive rule. If that doesn’t terrify you, I don’t know what will.
Dr Claude Anderson ... where are you at ? Will someone please invite him to some of these panels.
At home where he should be. Where is Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell the people who put this issue on the national stage. ADOS
Claud Anderson is the best person to be on this stage. Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore cannot even walk a mile in his shoes.
I get your point, Myron. And, you are correct to ask where are the people that can articulate the case FOR reparations. We ALL need to WORK together for the common goal.
@@marcelbovil2406 Then get all 3
@@marcelbovil2406 Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell are the reason that the reparations issue has been moved to the national stage. Dr Anderson can coach from the side lines. He if honest can say that they moved this issue to the national stage. The media has given Coates Booker and Jackson Lee credit for that accomplishment which is wrong. It is equally wrong to give Dr Anderson credit. ADOS has moved the conversation forward. We appreciate his work but it is time for a younger generation to play on the field and let the older generation coach them. Coaching is very important. Also Dr Sandy Darity PHD from MIT works work at Duke University is a intergenerational economist who has ADOS reparations his life's work. They understand that we had to define ourselves to receive reparations without others who are not descendants of enslaved people from confusing the conversation which is very important.
Someone: Logic
Dingbat: That's absurd.
It's been 20 years since I first heard about reparations, and Coleman underscores what I figured out a while ago: no one agrees on what reparations even are, or exactly what they are reparations for. If you've been talking about something for 20 years and can't even define it, your discussion is bogus.
Go get Dr. Claude Anderson
He is needed
Exactly. Any conversation of reparations without him is for show only
They don't want him, they want the smoke and confusion.
Agreed. The Doctor has the most comprehensive & tangible solutions documented on what the descendants of enslaved melanated people mean by reparations because he has been active in the political and legal arena to bring it about for several decades. Not just some 1 who hopped on it a year or 2 ago. To not bring him to the table means the people involved are not serious about its implementation.
There should be attorneys on this panel who can argue from a legal perspective.
Is Coleman the only Anti-reparations panelist? Who sets up a debate like this, good on him
He has no points. Murder has no statute of limitations Slavery has no statute of limitations it a crime against humanity. The court define life and labor as assets both were stolen they must be returned in the form of direct cash payments to ADOS. Only point here.
one none the people who committed those crimes are dead, if someone murders someone and dies before he is convicted you don’t get to pick someone up off the street and force them to serve his prison sentence because they share the same skin color, the cancerous ideology that individuals are responsible and should be punished for crimes others committed just because they share skin color is immoral
Why would anyone be anti reparations?
@@h-0119 lol if a rich person murders some and dies they leave an estate then there money goes to the heirs legally the estates is financially liable.law the heirs of the estate can't say they didn't do it so what they have to give a portion of the estate to the injured party it's the law
one none around 5% of white Americans today had ancestors who held slaves, a significant amount of black Americans today have ancestors who immigrated to the states after slavery, explain to me why it is a moral view to hold that white Americans today, 95% of which don’t have ancestors involved and 100% of which have never held slaves, should pay repetitions to another group, a significant amount who never had ancestors involved in this event and 100% of whom were never involved with this event, it is viscous racial politics to justify this forceful redistribution of wealth on the basis of skin color
Love how she gets a round of applause for saying “they didn’t know which seed go in the ground” when confronted with a serious of facts that no one wanted to hear.
Good display of how surface level and nonsensical their arguments and critical thinking skills are
The irony being that she was demonstrating part of the problem put forward by Hughes: having a righteous position (returning the land to its 'rightful' owners) doesn't mean you know what to do when you get it. Reclaiming a franchise that was stolen from your long-deceased ancestors doesn't mean you know how to run it succesfully any more than a kid receiving a trust fund from a long-lost rich uncle will suddenly know how to invest it properly.
I AM JURELL she’s loses all credibility as soon as she implies that farming is as simple as putting a seed in the ground lmao. As if she could go out and do it no problem
@@Hifcrea Well that's kinda my point, she clearly thinks problem solving of this magnitude is a one-step process. Remarkably myopic - and I'm not even necessarily against reparations forever and always, but she sure as fucking hell hasn't convinced me.
@@iamjurell lmao. thats the problem. The people leading these policies are not exactly the brightest. And im sorry i just find it kind of hilarious that an entire crowd is sitting their cheering on this concept of getting paid for something they never experienced.
reparations will never appease these people. they will only ever want more or complain further that things are still not fair for them.
To me, Coleman was the only person that made reasonable and logical sense. Everyone else was just a blurr.
It's amazing the dirty looks he is receiving from everyone when he is making complete logical sense.
Modern day slavery??? Good lord.
ThePigeonmilk How’s that for a stretch?
Does that idiot understand that modern slavery is China, n.korea, and the Sudan right this moment?
The Immortal I believe they were speaking about the US
@@darnellshareef3764 Then they were wrong.
Slavery IS still going on today, but it's not what these yahoos think it is. It's under a new name -- human trafficking/sex trafficking. These loudmouthed leftists are very blessed for it to never have touched their lives, and they're total putzes for not realizing their countless blessings, especially that one.
I was shocked when I discovered Coleman Hughes was only 25. The young man is wise way beyond his years.
I cant believe Coleman would be so disrespectful to that angry woman's feelings by stating facts.
Reparations is Separation.
Which is done my two equals.
- Malcolm X
The other people on this panel really don't like Coleman Hughes' opinion about reparations haha:
So funny huh?
All we have to do is scream "ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?" It's a magical phrase that protects us from the consequences of flaws in our own knowledge or actions.
I read a memoir of a Holocaust survivor and she said she never went and got reparations cheque as it wouldn’t have done anything to make her better, it would have felt like a betrayal, like no amount of money can never fix the horrible things that she went through and still had nightmares about. For someone who survived it to say that as opposed to descendants of slaves today demanding compensation for something they didn’t experience is striking.
They are experiencing it still. That is the whole point.
Reparations already exist - it's called the Welfare State
How is that true if more white people are on Welfare than blacks??!! Lol
@@TheGreenRee Well there are almost 4 times more white people than black people in the US lol, welfare is a failure though
@@TheGreenRee great point it doesnt. So, why would we think that another program would be more effective?
@Andrea Mendenhall Yeah, but then we have to take in the account of the lasting affects of slavery, sharecropping, land stolen from us that we paid for with no laws to protect us, Jim Crow laws, Tulsa Oklahoma massacre, the other race riots/massacres....all from white men and parts of white society hating the idea of us "slaves" prospering and no longer making them a profit, violently reacting, and then hypocritically turning around saying we have to pick ourselves up by the bootstraps...these unnecessary violent actions helped cause the current disparities between the two communities, but I'm sure you don't care about cause and effect.
My whole point was that the OP was suggesting that black people's reparations is welfare despite more white people benefiting from it, not just blacks. I was disputing that idea because citizens from different backgrounds benefit from welfare. Per capita doesn't matter in reference to the OP, white people still benefit....despite getting free land handed to them after it was violently stolen from Native Americans/indigenous people. Don't ignore history's lasting effect. But I don't know why I even bother. Keep your negative stereotypes. Whatever.
@@Echidna23Gaming FYI I'm neither for nor against reparations for blacks. I never said my stance on it in my post...but you don't hear white people complaining about continued reparations already made to Native Americans or the Jewish people. It always seems to be a problem when black people are involved. But I digress.
The Zimbabwe example was not well received- it’s impossible trying to have a conversation with leftists
Which is odd, because the example was very apt. Especially considering the reality of hyperinflation.
Coleman Hughes is a "leftist" in that he has always voted democrat, so I would be careful painting with so broad a brush. I think he looks easy to have a conversation with.
@@BrantAxt He is a moderate like me. The progressives are the "leftist" and because they talk the loudest and get the most air time on CNN and MSNBC they do not own the party. Hence Joe Biden is our candidate because WE vote, those pricks run their mouths and give the Democratic party a bad name with all their free shit!
@@BrantAxt Voting Democrat =/= Leftist and even Shapiro makes this very important distinction.
@@kelvinbrown8754 Fuck Joe Biden he's just as much a racist plantation master POS as Hillary. His pathetic pandering to black people to keep them chained to empty promises on the left. Joe has had some disgusting Freudian slips of the tongue and no one bats on the eye on the left cause that's "good ol' Uncle Joe" who was Obama's VP
My gosh ... Coleman just sat there and contemplated ever showing up to address these emotional clowns and waste his time ... Watch out for this kid in the coming years folks .
Mr. Hughes has the patience of Job.
There should be attorneys on this panel who can argue from a legal perspective .
Host was like....gotta go! Brother is ripping reparations to shreds...ABORT!
I agree with Coleman about Zimbabwe; it's a shame that they totally missed his point.
We need more people like Coleman Hughes, level headed, logical, and not ruled by their emotions
This Cruz person does not represent ADOS, and nether does any of them that was at the Reparations hearing.
Because not one single person who committed those crimes or were victimized by those crimes is around today.
I feel bad for Mr Hughes here, the two women weren’t even trying to understand his points. I thought the Zimbabwe analogy was at least thought provoking but it went right over their heads.
because they are emotionally reactive and never learned how to use reason.
@@ericstandefer9138 Na... because he's a big dumb sellout who is easily recognizable to anyone except white supremacists who just want someone to cosign their filth.
Thats because they dont know anything about Zimbabwe. They think you can just takeover a farm operation yet they have never been on a farm in their lives
BUSTED: (Coleman) Hughes is a Puerto Rican. He has zero right speaking on 'us' and how 'we' should not be getting restorative justice!! Just to show how deceitful he is...this mofo SCRUBBED the internet of his receipts so no one would know that he's really NOT one of us...while he's pretending to be us....while speaking on the mic saying 'we' should get nothing.....unless immigrants get it....Oooohhh disrespect. In his own words he said he stopped calling himself puerto rican and started calling himself Black so he could "finesse" the Black community and gain a foothold. Deceptive is what he is. Btw, Hughes had this information scrubbed prior to this farce of a "hearing".
That's the million dollar question. My family came to the US in the 1970's. Why would I have to pay something that I or my ancestors was a ever a part of? I refuse to pay.
Tired of hearing "have a conversation" I have heard it enough to think if they don't get what they want from the conversation then it was not a conversation.
Being the first of my family to be born on American soil 61 years ago, I was not nor were my parents nor any ancestors ever part of the Federal Government, State Government, any corporations, banks or insurance companies that in any way condoned or benefited from that unfortunate part of history.
I, therefore, owe no one anything and do not see it fair in any way that 10's of millions like myself should in any way be responsible for reparations to those that we in no way harmed, exploited or otherwise benefited from.
@@mainkilla
You're a silly boy.
@@mainkilla
What are you even talking about?
What indoctrination camp did this to you, my friend?
As a man, neither you nor I can "rectify" anything but ourselves. The responsibility we must take is for those actions and deeds, we, ourselves have done. You cannot change neither the world nor make a generalized humanity responsible for anything.
As a Muslim, I am responsible only to Allah.
@@mainkilla
Good luck on your "mission".
My great great great grandfather died in the civil war fighting to end slavery.. not all of the US was for slavery
But we're all supposed to pay for it or, as some other idiot here said, the government is supposed to pay. The government doesn't have any money that it hasn't first taken from us.
Some of these people on this panel doesn't represent me. Cruz specifically.
Really? They "doesn't"?
@@skineyemin4276 an educated person would know why he doesnt
@@ndthomp Well, some of those people on that panel "don't" represent him (or her).
Race baiter.
People make fun of ebonics/Aave and then talk about how lit something is. How something is so ratchet. How they ain't got or what the "be" doing.
Our dialect has different rules, ur misunderstanding doesn't justify debasing and speaks to your concept of language and who gets to influence it. Shakespear among many other white writers literally invented words for convenience.
Languages grow and change.
Don't come for us without an invitation.
It’s amazing how quickly conversations break down when emotion gets involved. Sometimes I wonder if public speaking is the right medium for these types of discussions. I would love to put all these issues on a debating platform so facts can be discussed line item by line item until the truth emerges.
How can you expect emotion not to get involved when this is about unspeakable horrors of taking people's live and using them like things.
Coleman: Calm, rational point related to the topic of reparations.
Audience: ...
Debater A: "Racism is bad."
Audience: Applauds Debater A's groupthink.
Coleman: "Ok, but back to the topic of this debate, reparations-"
Debater B: "I'm gonna let you finish but I have these separate, completely unrelated points about criminal justice reform and general education.
Audience: Starts frothing.
Coleman: "...That's nice...Anywa-"
Debater C: "I don't like where this is going, so I'm gonna interrupt you even though I have nothing to say.
Audience: Explodes in groupthink energy.
Unbelievable. It's a debate about reparations people, not criminal justice reform or public education. Those are separate issues that no one really disagrees with. Coleman with the apparently herculean task of keeping this the debate centered on the topic they got together to debate.
09:05 How dare that kid make a good well researched logical analogy as a cautionary example of how reparations may have an adverse effect on the community at large?
We'll just talk over him, cut him off, boo, talk louder and come up with a chant: "Where's my Check! Where's my Check!"
@La Verne Give it to who? Who owes it? How do you measure what value was created? How do you estimate the inflation? How do you factor the contributions? It's so easy to "reparations are owed" but even if it was granted, you can't tell me who gets it, how it's distributed, how much and who pays for it.
It's just virtue signaling and greed. If anyone was serious about reparations, they would come up with a document with detailed analysis and research that can show how they came to the ask, what factors are considered, how it's going to be distributed, etc. etc. Until such a proposal is made formal, there's nothing to talk about.
And let's not forget, if it ever did get through, you wouldn't get it anyway because that kind of decision would open the door for Native Americans to request reparations and they have an even greater claim.
@La Verne ??? I don't have control of that. Try it again.
You can make fun of them because most white people already got their "virtual" checks and like to make smug remarks.
Blacks have pursued reparation since the 1800. I was in the fight in the 80's.
Thelma Lewis then white people will really own you, because they can say Themla wouldn’t have anything without the white man giving her reparations so we own her success
Begging the white man instead of building... SMH.🤦🏾♀️
This coleman kids a clown
Instead of "educating people on what `reparations' means" -- why not just use words that more clearly describe what you mean?
How is it hard to understand that the Zimbabwe economy took a huge hit when the farmers were evicted and the investors pulled out, and food production fell spectacularly????
6:25 I laughed so hard. This guy is crazy. I’ve never met a white guy that’s said that. And I live in the Midwest. 😂
The only thing you can do is openly mock these people.
He is not white
@@jurdrockwell7228 I think he meant what was in the guy's quote: "This is a fact...I've never met any people of color that sat down and said 'Hey, it's Tuesday, let's go hang some white boys. That's a white thing." Implying white people sit around and plan lynchings.
I'v never met one either. And I have lived in the south, midwest, north west and now California in my 45 years. One racist comment doesnt mean we need to systematically alter the entire culture of the world. Slavery is a world history issue not an exclusively American one.
@@jurdrockwell7228be wasn’t calling that gentleman white - he was commenting on what he said about how white people behave.
There seems to be something unsavory about politicians offering money to people for past injustices to a persons ancestors (for political purposes). Personally I'd feel like accepting such money gives a measure of absolution for past wrongs and frankly I'd tell them to go to hell.
Crazy, I've never met a single person who has even wanted to hang another human being. Thank goodness that guy just fixed my memory for me. So much anger and ignorance.
Strange considering there was a noose in front of our white house earlier this year 🙄
It’s brave of Coleman to even go into these kinds of public conversations. I don’t think he did the best possible job (not that I could do better), but I think he’s the only one thinking clearly about the subject in that room.
He did do an amazing job. The topic itself isn't what I watch his videos for. I like to rewatch this because I enjoy seeing the composure that he showed. The only thing where I think could have made him come off better is if he didn't tell them to "google" certain points. That just doesn't seem like an impactful rebuttal for a debate.
People can get really emphatic when it comes to getting money the haven't earned. Nobody alive is responsible for slavery. Why is that hard to understand.
He doesn't know what anyone think? Please refer to ADOS 101 by Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell
Is there anyone that can read people's minds? Can you use correct grammar to get your point across?
@@TimeMachine7773 Maybe if historically we hadn't been systematically denied equal access to education in this country we would be more grammatically correct.
@@TimeMachine7773 no and no 😆 😆 😆
Or she could have paid attention in school. I got a government paid for book just like she did. Clearly she cared about her education based off of her response. It only hurts her not being able to convey her thoughts on paper. Almost everything she reads has an editor and most things stated on tv and in movies are grammatically correct, sentences under ten words are not beyond her own ability. I grew up in one of the worst states educationally, we all are taught the same thing, but if you don't care you will be worse off than those that do. Don't make excuses.
@@TimeMachine7773 Why are you so concerned about my education? I have a right to comment regardless if I use correct grammar or not. My comment is only a comment, not an essay. If you want to edit my comment that is fine.
jeeeeeeez, man, how are you that smart at that young age?!? Imagine the tons and tons of reading etc he does??
Coleman is one of the best communicators of complex ideas I've ever heard on ANY topic. Pundits on the right are too often bombastic and tone-deaf on many issues, pundits on the left are growing more insane and delusional as they dive into post-modernist activism and nonsense. Coleman clearly thinks deeply about the communication of ideas and is able to see the big picture instead of getting lost in the weeds like most people these days. I love how he explains things clearly and exposes where communication usually breaks down between people. Even when we all speak the same language, many times we are NOT speaking the same language lol It is a shame though that most of the other people on in this discussion are unable even with his skill to see the deeper issues, even though they think they are so much deeper than others, many of their ideas are actually very simplistic and not well thought out.
We need more people like him that can interpret what others are trying to say and address the real issues. If Hughes ever runs for president, you got your first vote right here!
Reparations will never happen.
I think it should exist. I would recommend parent training, better education, psychological support, college scholarships, anything to stop black on black crimes.
@@chrisno6669 That's great as long as contributions are voluntary and the $$$ goes to the people who need it the most. Not some city slush fund that corrupt politicians steal from.
@@dbjkatz exactly. Directly for the people. When i was teen, i had a mentor who taught me the right path. She would take us to Galveston and other "classy" events that we wouldn't even think of going. All on her dime. She wanted to teach us that we could have fun without doing drugs and running the streets. That support really did help me. Finance and saving would also be an awesome skill. And trips outside the US. To expose them to other environments.
It SHOULD have happened immediately after the slaves were freed. Our government should not have gone back on their word. But it is way too late for any of that now. We need to teach individual responsibility again. Plenty of time has passed. Make something of yourselves.
@@chrisno6669 I can agree with that. No handouts, just opportunities. Because what you addressed are huge issues, but I also believe anyone in poverty should be offered that. Education is the key in my opinion to lift others out of poverty or help at least. You can help everyone unfortunately, because some will resist...
A Lion will always be a lion, even when all the Hyenas are against him
My respect CH.
EXCEPT WHEN HE IS IN A CIRCUS JUMPING THRU A HOOP OF FIRE FOR HIS MASTER ( CLARENCE THE LION) WHO DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS ,JUST THERE TO PLEASE HIS MASTER
spoken like a true hyena.
@@abdulshahid6412 He's the most independent thinking person in this entire room. Everyone else is the one jumping through flaming hoops for the democrats. Been doing it for the last 60 years. The day when Black culture realizes that is the day they will catch up to the rest of us. Abandon government assistance and embrace true liberty.
I looked up land reparations in Zimbabwe, and it's absolutely insane how bad things got. Wheat is only at 1/16th of its original output. Instead of coal, wood is used to cure tobacco, so a ton of forest was destroyed. And then they started to grow low quality tobacco that's typically used as filler and doesn't earn as much money.
Love Coleman Hughes. He is a king in his objectivity. I have high praise and respect for him. And I agree the case of Zimbabwe was disastrous. That being said, I think the case of Zimbabwe, to the admittedly limited extent I am familiar with it, being related to the seizures being forceful, precipitous, and extreme, even while historically justified or understandable.
And while I also agree that financial reparations in the U.S. would probably still face strong opposition, I think there is a promise for healing that he may be missing here, especially if *conservatives* might increasingly end up being persuaded of its legitimacy.
While that may sound pie-in-the-sky, an approach of institutional reparations is actually consistent with the belief of conservatives in the rule of law and in the role of *institutions* which, as corporate bodies, remain responsible beyond their current leadership for offenses done in their name.
This approach stands in contrast to allowing the culture descend into individual-to-individual blame, with often unjustified and petulant accusations of "privilege" at every turn by some, so long as the problem is not meaningfully recognized.
If there is meaningful and cathartic state action, we may actually see people feel some justice be done (since justice indeed ought to be dispensed by institutions and not individuals), and people will have fewer grounds toward playing "pin the tail on the white man". There will remain inequities needing resolution, but sympathy will arguably increase for black people if the culture as a whole sees a real gesture by the country at large and black people correspondingly are inspired--as I think is likely for many--to tone down the blame.
We need to get over this as a country. Our enemies are eating this up, and helping us beat the drum toward attacking each other, as they seek to neutralize us. While I love the quote of Dr. King about the content of their character and think we need to get back to that on an individual-to-individual level, I also remember the quote that fits best with institutions "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
In 2014 the united states brokered an agreement with France to give the direct descendants of Holocaust survivors reparations. The primary debate was that it WAS NOT the responsibility of the individual to outlive the process of the agreement, but it was the responsibility of those who caused harm to craft a settlement in an efficient manner, and for those who died before the process finished, they are not at fault.
With that being said, reparations have been on the table since the end of the civil war. Former slave masters received compensation, Native American Slave owners, and Native Americans still receive compensation based on treaties that are 150 years old and currently use as a form of litigation to this day.
I disagree with Cruz-Huges statement because there is already a precedent that was created with the involvement of the U.S. Government.
Native Americans did receive reparations from the Obama administration more than 4 billion
J cox and look where they are now. Their situation couldn’t be worse. Pumping millions of dollars doesn’t do any good , you have to have structure and leadership.
That was wrong too.
@@jcox2578 Also wrong.
He is the only guy in the room who actually knows ANYTHING! Everyone else just spews ideologies, philosophies and opinions. There isn’t a country on earth that doesn’t have slavery in their past yet American blacks are the only people OBSESSED with it and want to continue to talk about it. Irish people who came to NY were slaves forced to build NYC but you don’t hear them bitching and complaining.
The Irish were not slaves.
and to think Coleman was born in 1996 with that vast knowledge just wow.
Coleman Hughes never stop arguing with facts over feelings. Excellent young man.
Coleman is such a figure to the coming generation.
Is the lefts new favorite term “Holistic”
@BillyFreeTX how so? There are simple ways to look at it but nuance is important.
Where do we start and end?
How he stays calm is amazing.
If Africans were given the option to come to America to work voluntarily, Africans would have came to work like any other ethnic group, there would have been no need for years of needless human suffering, no aggressive inner city police tactics, no mafia, no crack cocaine, no kkk, no skinheads, no redlining, no need for meanlessly long job applications only used to discriminate, no need for the neo mex invasion, but a society that is more focused on merit than race.
For the Government to formally address these ills and the long suffering caused to a segment of it's population with compansation, would be a great step forward.
1bikeman OnDaMoV America is not wat it is today without slave labor so no, no one would come here from Africa as the us would have nothing to offer. Without the abuse of Africa, the world would collapse
@@TheDjFreshMaker They try to keep a bitch on the hoe stroll, like you got Coleman C. Hughes, selling his black ass, the catch-22 is the very fact that everybody black ain't no prostitute.
@@TheDjFreshMaker Good point.
No, they would not have come voluntarily! We as a people had our own lives and were not starved and homeless, we were not savages, we had families and chores, we were not looking to come to America looking for work! We had more than enough work to do in Africa!
I appreciate your support of the whole point of the need for reparations for us! Your point of us as a people coming here no, not the case we were here already in large numbers there are large African stone sculptures in Indiana, caves in Indiana with African picture/stories which predate modern American civilization.
Why do you think you deserve representations when you were never a slave and i was never a slave owner?
Indians receive reparations still today. Where any of them every alive during that time did any of us to those horrible things to them. This is another example of white people with blinders on.
@@eplkag1212 I mean...if you're talking Native Americans, actually, you don't get money if you choose to live among the rest of America. There are thousands and thousands of people with some or full native American blood who live just like ordinary Americans in middle class life, etc. I think ironically, the stubbornness of Native American nations and tribes to stay stuck in the past instead of moving forward with the modern world has now held them back the longest. It's just clear when you look at people with native American ancestry who are doing great economically, educationally, professionally etc. and then you look at the said situation of the reservations. So I think ironically, the money the U.S. Government gives to reservations keeps them in poverty because people don't have an incentive to go to college, build their own enterprise, invent new things, create new music, etc. quite the same way when you're not stuck in a essentially closed off village of people who stay so rooted to tradition and the past that they cannot move. Native American reservations in America are depressing. It was an idea that should have only lasted a few decades because it essentially shielded Native people from growing with the rest of America and enjoying its prosperity in any way.
@@wowomah6194
Sound like the effect of the welfare system for the black people.
@@wesleymalutama3651 Well, truth be told, it's not only the case for just the black community, but for downtrodden, impoverished people of all races. Look at white trailer parks and Appalachia in the United States and you will see much of the same behavior, attitudes, etc as you would in a black urban ghetto. I have white family (I am white) who live from welfare check to welfare check, never can keep a job, have drug addiction issues, multiple kids and no husband, etc. I think this is why some of the best speakers on how to help the black community make the case that it would be not only potentially easier but also more helpful to America if we looked at the impoverished, uneducated, downtrodden in general because such people are living parallel existences in many ways.
@@wowomah6194
I agree, thank you for your hindsight.
Cannot do reparations until we hear clear thoughts about who, what, when, where, how, and why?
So true. Just because you’re louder, more emotional, and better versed at interrupting someone mid explanation doesn’t make you right. If you take land you don’t know how to farm, or farm land and have no one with the means to sell and buy the crops, you’re going to fail. But she doesn’t want to hear that. She should take a note, agree to disagree, go and research what he says and either prove or disprove him and release a response video