How about Coleman and fellow critics are held to account. All the NYT headlines I've seen have 'palestinians say ' in the headline informing the reader it's an accusation not a statement of fact
Why? This conflict is going on because of what occurred recently and as far as going back further than two years, it wouldn’t prove either point because both have committed atrocities. 🤦♂️
Its because if you go back to the beginning of Israel and Hamas its all a chess game and proxy war using both sides as human meat so there can be perpetual war meaning perpetual buisiness opportunity.
Did he state the conflict only began 2 years ago or that the planning and organization of an attack started 2 months ago? Slow down there guy, you might be thinking too fast
If you know the history of "Israeli civilian" families you will see that, apart from the babies, no one there is innocent. These are people who moved to live on property stolen from Palestinian families
That's why it's important to do research, open books from the previous century about history, during a time that bias had no place. I went to the library because I am a jew and I wanted a fresh objective perspective both for myself and for the people around me, I have learned a lot from it. An example would be how jordan and Egypt owned gaza and the west bank until 1967, even though it was previously part of the Palestinian state
he interviewed a historian 7 months ago and broke down from the 1940s to current relations on his podcast look it up very detailed lengthy talk on what happened
I'm very impressed with how Joe Rogan always tries to find quotes because he doesn't want to misquote someone. He also gives people the benefit of the doubt . He is a true fact checker and keeps an open mind. It's very refreshing in todays media and podcasts. Thank you, Mr Rogan, for that.
@kingoftheworld12 yes it is... I'm referring to the entirety of the podcast that was almost 3 hrs. Unfortunately alot of ppl don't see war or conflict as a sensitive matter. Have a awesome day 😎
Coleman Hughes is totally ignorant on this matter and he is clearly biased to one side. Many information he said is clearly wrong. Israel is recruiting content creators for $2000 a show to spread lies. JRE is a failure by hosting this imposter. come on Rogan, u can do better.
“Didn’t we learn anything from WWII? Didn’t we learn anything from the Holocaust?” We did, for a time. Unfortunately, as the generation that experienced it makes their final exit, those lessons are swiftly being forgotten and it appears events are culminating in a way that we may relearn that horror.
I know from my family what Gaza is like that visited there last year, Apartheid prison.... the news can tell you otherwise. Im from South Africa, and i know Apartheid.
@@JFK762 What goggles were you wearing? I live in the region. And I've been. And I have friends on both sides. Out here, both Isrealis who have survived the brains-wash and Palestinians acknowledge - it's apartheid by a different name. Never mind what the Palestinians say - read Israeli reports - Paled, Finkelstein, or Pappe?
This is one of the biggest problems with having a 24-hour news cycle. Everyone wants to be the first one to tell the whole story, even if they only have a few unconfirmed fragments of the story to work with. By the time any corrections are made, the public is already passing around an inaccurate narrative.
Agreed, though he left out one crucial detail. The American supreme court does not get to appoint their own judges, or veto nominations. The Israeli supreme court does.
@@snakey934Snakeybakey The Israeli supreme court is too powerful and I say this as an Israeli who is generally against the massive reforms that this current government has pushed forward. I think some of the reforms suggested make sense but the way they were presented (as well as the absolute trash we have in government/the Knesset) makes me very very wary of what the actual goals are (for instance - saving Bibi's skin from all the charges against him in several cases).
@@shtroizn Bibi's skin was already saved. The truth is we've never had a good government. Ben Gurion before 1948 was extremely unpopular in Israel and seen as a British collaborator (because he was) our first election was just him seizing power while all of his opposition was away fighting. It is my hope that we can change this and eventually get the government we deserve, but the biggest obstacle in the way of that is the Supreme Court.
“Historical events are never fully understood in the heat of their own time, but only at a great distance, after a cooling of passions.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Agree but people can't bring up what happened in 1948 without bringing up the fact Roman's kicked out the jews out of isreal first. Histroy will favor isreal everytime.
Its not about getting the story right. Its about getting the story first. These big corps know they wont be held liable because of fog of war. Truly disgusting and shows wisdom needs to be in the hearts of everyone now more than ever
He is basically brainwashed. He says that Israel receives Palestinians for work, then he says that Israel has laws of war that it follows, then he says that the terrorist groups made a mistake and blew up the hospital. First, Israel is an occupier. Second, the Palestinians have the right to self-defense, just like the right of the Israeli occupation. Third, Hamas is not like ISIS. It does not want a Jew to remain on the land, rather it is only against the occupation. Fourthly, Israel is committing war crimes by bombing homes and buildings. Finally, this is not the first hospital that Israel has bombed, and it has warned the hospital to evacuate many times. Israel is a state created by Satanists. The religious Jews are against this state. In fact, the years of brainwashing have actually succeeded in their work. You must know that Israel terrorizes the Palestinians daily. The Palestinians live in the largest cage and the largest prison in the world. They are imprisoned inside a large land. Lucifer is leading the battle against humanity. Wake up.
How does Mr. Coleman feel about the conditions of the Palestinians prior to the attack by Hamas? Also Israel, supposedly, has the world's best surveillance equipment and personnel that it's strange they didn't know this attack from Humas was coming. And supposedly, Egypt warned Israel 3 days before the attack.
We were willing to give up on our security for semblance of the possibility of peace, and regarding the conditions in gaza, Palestine receive billion of dollars from UN FOREIGN aid and American aid, yet no schools have been built by thr elect regime hamad, no hospitals either, the Palestinians live in poverty while there leaders live in luxury in qatar and turkey, Israel is the oly country in the region that opened the gate to allow Palestinians to work in Israel, up to Oct six 130000 workers were granted visas and able to provide a much better life for there families, ask yourself why egypt syria jordan and lebanon have not offered any help or refuge. Btw its other arabs that kill Palestinians assad regime have killed more then 1 million Palestinians with mustard gas
he clearly said that they don't want genocide in fact the population of gaza & west bank had doubled in 10 years .. why do they keep having babies ? @@hereslookingatyoukid3504
The more you read, the more you learn that the reason the Arabs lost so much territory is because they launched and initiated multiple wars against the Jews throughout the 20th century. You can’t start wars and complain that you lost territory when you lose. Unfortunately it is a consequence. The Jews in Israel is not the result of an invasion, but the result of defensive victory against an aggressor.
The mainstream narrartive being played on nearly all news stations I've seen is singluar and lacks any nuance or complexity involving the history. A solid 70% of people, I'd guess, have no clue the full context of either side. In a world of propaganda, consider the source twice, and believe it not at all; trust is the luxury of the uninformed, and in this arena, ignorance is your adversary.
Maybe Israel would open the gates if you stop blowing up busses, nightclubs, pizza joints. That's right, go back and look at that history. Ironically, Egypt will not let the Arab Palestinians cross their border either and the residents of Gaza have Egyptian blood.
@@Conntrailed they did start the occupation. You're ignorant on this matter. And you're okay with childrens being killed for "self defence"? Imagine blaming the rape victims for fighting back. Disgusting. Everyone can see the evil of israel
international law violation... hmmm a certain group rhyming with ramas comes into my mind, but apparently people simply living in empty areas is a warcrime... sure
The settlements are not fine but they are also in the west bank, and the dispute is not as clean cut as people are being lead to believe. Israel are buying land off Arabs. They can and do prove that. The dispute is that doesn't give them the right to raise their flag (and I agree, it doesn't).
Exactly....the kid is an idiot with an agenda clearly. Is saudia arabia or Dubai a death cult? They have sharia law. Is Malaysia a death cult? They have sharia law. This guy really does not know the religion or history well. My only guess is that he is a secret apocalyptic Christian doomsdayer that actually believes in that prophecy called rapture. which would make him turn blind eye to all of what Israel does so long as it brings his Jesus back.
Haha how this guys changed the media.. I've always heard the media is saying it was not Israel. Now, he is saying that the media is saying that. He is definitely here to defend Israel. He is trying to avoid speaking something. His words are so controlled.
Up until September 2021, the United States had used its veto power in the United Nations Security Council to protect Israel from sanctions or resolutions critical of Israel's actions at least 41 times, out of a total 83 times in which its veto has ever been used in UN by US.
100% Israel and US habitually violate international law. So, pretending as if this is a both sides issues completely dismisses who is actually responsible.
I'd like to see who were proposing these sanctions. The UN has a lot of countries who hate Israel but are not critical of other countries doing the same or even worse human rights violations.
Yeah united nations that is full of so many Muslim countries using sheer numbers to vote Israel as abuser of human rights constantly. Saudi, Iran, Yemen, Egypt Türkiye, Syria (that are bombing their own people by the way) and Palestine the enemy of Israel mots ?Muslim countries always vote against Israel . Yeah those nations voted that and you think UN is credible? . Such unbiased vote don't you think? Sarcasm by the way. Not to mention China and Russia and their allies. But yeah the united nations like anyone gives a damn what they think.
@@pipemajormcquinnon3055 Saudi, Iran, Yemen, Egypt Türkiye, Syria (that are bombing their own people by the way) and Palestine the enemy of Israel ?Muslim countries always vote against Israel and never admit their own faults. Saudi violate human rights every single day but they never mention it. Muslim countries always vote in favor of one another and against Israel.
You'd think news media would be more careful in their reporting considering people already don't trust it. At the end of the video when they were talking about the hospital bombing, the media was showing images of a destroyed building, but as it turns out, that wasn't really the hospital. That's one more thing that annoys the heck out of me with news media. The images they show us are NOT even related to their talking points. We will literally never get the WHOLE picture when dealing with the news. It's so annoying.
He is basically brainwashed. He says that Israel receives Palestinians for work, then he says that Israel has laws of war that it follows, then he says that the terrorist groups made a mistake and blew up the hospital. First, Israel is an occupier. Second, the Palestinians have the right to self-defense, just like the right of the Israeli occupation. Third, Hamas is not like ISIS. It does not want a Jew to remain on the land, rather it is only against the occupation. Fourthly, Israel is committing war crimes by bombing homes and buildings. Finally, this is not the first hospital that Israel has bombed, and it has warned the hospital to evacuate many times. Israel is a state created by Satanists. The religious Jews are against this state. In fact, the years of brainwashing have actually succeeded in their work. You must know that Israel terrorizes the Palestinians daily. The Palestinians live in the largest cage and the largest prison in the world. They are imprisoned inside a large land. Lucifer is leading the battle against humanity. Wake up.
dude, the operation room's roof fell off, try to listen to the doctors who were actually there and not the media, they don't have Access to gaza cuz it's an open prison
You want the whole picture? You can see it LIVE if you want from reporters over there in the field. You can literally see hundereds of piles of dead bodies (men, women, and mostly children). You can see people crying, people who have lost their ENTIRE families. I saw one girl who have lost 17 familiy members in one night. Parents are writing the names of their kids on their legs so that people know who they are if they were mutilated by bombs. Thats the sad truth. Thats the truth the media won’t ever show. Israel is crying over a 1000 israeli dying, including soldiers? Well palestinians are crying over more that 5000 woman and child being MRDRD.
Israel took credit for the hospital bombing immediately after it happened. The tweet from their bureaucrat got deleted and it took 18 more hours before they released a statement claiming it was an 'errant hamas missile.' Good rule of thumb if you live in america is that if the news is saying Israel did nothing wrong, theyre almost always lying.
I like this guy. He thinks for himself and looks at things objectively and works to not be influenced by popular politics. Guys like that are rare these days
Israel has been committing war crimes execution style for DECADES but you won't hear about it because the media blocks it.. They continue to displace Palestinians from their homes and land their ancestors are buried..10,000 Palestinians born in Jerusalem have no legal status because their parents hold different ID cards and Israel will not register them. They have no legal rights. Majority of Israeli's are Eastern European-- There is no such thing as Israeli Couscous or Falafel, or Tabbouleh but they claim it there's too just like land. The pressure cooker of decades of oppression has burst.
He also continently forgot/ is unaware that the hospital was warned for days to evacuate…. I really thought this was going to be an interesting interview but the guest sounds like he’s reading off of the nightly news teleprompter…. Like word for word! Do they pay these ppl? Makes me really sad
@@bentnotbroken4192why would anyone bomb a hospital where civilians are getting much-needed care? Israel is a top military power in the world. Palestine has no military. Open ur eyes bro u sound nuts
Wait, but is he not gonna mention that the supreme court thing in israel is also about natenyahu trying to get out of the major corruption charges against him, he was tryin to change the constitution and that’s why people were angry
This might be accurate, but as someone who lived in Israel, but not a Bibi fan, there is a lot more to it then that. The judicial system is messed up in many ways. For example, in Israel, when you retire from the supreme court, you pick your successor. Also, the supreme court can overrule any law the Knesset passes for no particular reason other then they don't like it. The real issue is that Israel doesn't have a constitution which leads to the judicial and parliamentary issues they face today. I do not agree with Bibi's version of reform, but there should be reform.
The judicial reform was suggested by both Yair Lapid and Benny Gantz, the opposition in the past. They just changed their mind because there has been a very obvious 10 year witch hunt against Bibi, who led Israel's GDP growth from 125 Billion to 525 Billion under his leadership. Anyone who thinks Israel would have done that under the socialists is a total dunce. His trials ended up with zero convictions and several being thrown out.
@@mmuser9137 That is not true. The supreme court is choosen by a committee with politician (from both sides), the lawers association and current judges. The new judge need to be approved by the government. I'm also not a Bibi supporter + I'm a don't support the reform, but I can understand what the right wing want. The supreme court checks the legality of every new law based on other Israeli laws.
I'm sorry but who is this guy to explain this historic event? Shouldn't we get some people from both sides who are from that region to explain their sides, and maybe we can deduce some type of truth between.
JOE REAGAN AND RANDOM WESTERN PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST... U KNOW NOTHING, LITERALLY NOTHING
It's like 1+1=2 here that palestine is on the right. the dude is saying hamas wants islamic state like isis???? well nah u want a christian state like the ku klux klan?? or a christian state like melting babies in hiroshima and nagazaki.. like don't ever mix islam with isis. but hamas???! they literally treated hostages professionaly and according to islam. not a single baby beheaded or woman ra**ed as u claimed. xD!!! google tantura massacre (look what idf soldiers say), der yassin massacre.. the 1920s hagana... @ 10:15 what???? xD! israel is the good guy because it doesn't nuke gaza?! woooo thank u israel for not doing that what a good gentle guy u are... xD i mean yes israel can obliterate palestinians in the gaza strip but what kind of a cowardice shameless way it is to nuke them. They don't wanna look bad in the eyes of everybody.... otherwise they would've done it. they are already targeting kids and hospitals xD!!! they are the good guys xD!! HAHAHAAHAHAHHA
@@gottahavegoalssetI’m not aware of Joe Rogans show being something similar to “All sides considered.” He has a guest, that guest has an opinion on the subject that Rogan wanted to share by uploading this video. What’s the problem with that?
@@mikefromoh2925 that is currect 1000% , but he says some things thats not totaly true wich can lead to a huge miss information , and no one from the inside will say anything becouse it will destroye there life js just shame on humanity shame
I love that the NY Times isn't actually investigating claims before it prints a click bait story. I love that reporters have to go to college to be lazy AND wrong. Think that they take a class on it?
Well the NY Times did their Best to cover up the Holocaust from FDR orders during WW2. Sources: The Abandonment of the Jews --- David S Wienman Buried by the Times --- Laurel leff Beyond All Belief --- Peter Lemesurier NYtimes report 1851 to 2001 ; 150th Anniversary --- Turning away from the Holocaust published in the NY Times, November 14, 2001. Max Frankel
With the Free Press having the responsibility it does in an open free society, you would think the journalists would have to get some sort of accreditation like a lawyer, passing the bar or something along those lines. Any schmuck with an opinion can call themselves a journalist at this point, until we rectify that things are just going to continue to get worse.
Exactly! My opinion? If you stand "with" Israel, then go stand IN Israel. If you stand "with" Palestine, then go stand IN Palestine. It's easy to say you support one side or the other inside the comfort of American borders.
What if we just want Peace and stop the killing. I just dont want anyone oppressed or to live in Jail and I don't want anyone killed and living in fear. You can't ignore and look the other way when childern are being killed from both sides
@@two_legit1832 99.9% of the people who support palestine and Hamas have never even been to gaza or Israel so they dont know anything they're just fed with lies and propagandas
Bassem is a comedian too. But Joe won't invite him because he's controlled too unfortunately. He seems to have that over tin window too that Ben Shapiro fired Candace Owens for. At least when it comes to Israel. He has been very careful about critique of Israel and been trying to portray this as a 'nuanced topic' all the while the whole world can see the genocide in plain sight
I'm convinced using historical claims to land will never lead to a solution in the region. There may be boundaries and borders that some from both sides would agree on but the unresolved extremist issues and family-driven emotional ties to the territory would persist. Any proposed solution is going to move citizens from their homes and I'm not convinced the majority of people would move willingly. If you're born into this conflict and have a home in the region, being told to leave because some group claimed it 'x' years ago is brutal pill to swallow.
But we have to call a spade a spade. We are talking about one set of peoples who have lived on that land in the majority for countless generations, and another group of essentially immigrants who -since 1947- have flooded the place and all but expelled those who were born there, had deeds to their houses ect ect. We can not pretend like this is some kind of equal cause. If we like it or not, Israel is clearly a terrorist state, with the worlds largest open air prison. Lets be real.
and if you go far enough back in time ain't nobody gonna be pleased. The "Caananites" aren't around so do you give it to the next people in line? That would be pre-Islam Egyptians I guess. If you don't give it to them then the next after that are the Israelites. It took Islam another 2000 years after that to be invented so... yeeaahh... The only thing consistent here is inconsistency. If you just look up Jerusalem it's been attacked and razed some insane amount of times. Good luck everybody!!!
Sadly it's not about land from their side.. It's a war to eradicate all jews from their homeland.. As every peace deal so far fell through.. Every armastice was broken.. And every two state solution was rejected.. By the Arab side... So tell me, what can be done? Between a side that wants peace and to preserve life and between a side that wants the other dead and worships death?
My whole family was injured in Manchester. The first thing I did after getting out of hospital was to ask why it happened. It is always a revenge thing. It is always to do with money. Stop people making money from death and you will stop people taking revenge.
Sorry to hear about the injury of your family. I hope you heal kindly. Civilians should never be targets in any political conflict. Combatants from any side enter war willing to pull the trigger and expecting their death, though tragic, but civilians, no matter what most of the worlds tyrrant governments do, do not deserve this suffering.
You should of asked why the manchester met police were doing bomb drills at the same time and failed to stop it happening and what is the motivation behind apparent incompetence.
@@mattvanemden7573 I know someone who was working for the stage crew during the day, and while working they heard gossip that something was going to happen
@@Bennett2142Possibly not true. There were many other factors to consider. The German revolution, irresponsible German government spending, how Germany financed the war to name a few. Socialism was the trend at the time. Adding race to it (considering the focus of the world on eugenics) isn't that surprising.
Indeed. We forgot that once Germany invaded Poland then proceeded to invade another and another and another country, while the West was still debating if the Germans were really that much of a threat. Luckily Japan was dumb enough to poke the Eagle or the borders of the world today would have been much different along with our official languages. People really need to stop with all this kumbaya nonsense. Peace is obtained by obliterating aggression, not by standing idly by hoping that if you treat better the people who would have you killed they will stop wishing that. Seek your allies on those that are like minded, wish for peace, and fight to keep it. Not on those who have opposite values of yours, are only happy to dominate over you, and fight as soon as they get the slightest upper hand.
@@antidote7actually he is spot on, especially when it comes to judicial reform. But since he dpesnt parrot what you want to hear you will just do what every smoothbrain does
@@thecakeisalie6601 When you listen to academics who spent their entire lives on the conflict and examine the history and human rights reports etc, he comes off knowing very little. So quite frankly, you are incorrect.
@@anjr6282 Sure on this specific story. The point was that the situation may benefit from an objective outsider who isn't emotionally involved. Just structurally the lay out of territory has been destined to fail. A North South split of the territory makes practical sense, splitting the West Bank at Jerusalem, Jericho and Bethlehem to Israel and Ashkelon to the Palestinians. This has been dragging on since before I was born, never mind the Bronze Age. After the dust settles some settlement must be made.
Lol the West established a state for the Jews in order to ensure the Middle East stay at unrest and the failure of the Arabs to unite again, so that there would be no transfer of power
@@DarkPassenger yeah so peaceful like US who gives Isreal billions of dollars of your money taxes to support them till this minute the West fully support kids killers what a peaceful people they also got rid of red Indians and killed over one million Iraqi people andd don't mention what happened to afiraca you know so peaceful and so cute 🥺
"let's for a minute imagine a world without Hamas, what will this world look like? Let's name this world the -West Bank- ... Hamas has absolutely no control in the West Bank... since the beginning of this thing only through August: 37 Palestinian kids were killed, no music festival, no paragliding no Hamas... Since the occupation of the West Bank: 7,000 Palestinians were killed, no music festival no paragliding no Hamas"__ Bassem Youssef
you're right, Fatah, Al Aqsa Brigades, and Islamic Jihad are just as evil. And yes Hamas does have power in Judea & Samaria as well, just not completely
'Lets for a minute imagine a world without the occupation. What will this world look like? Lets name this world Gaza. Israel fully withdrew giving Gaza full autonomy. No settlers, no soldiers, no Jews, no nothing. Hamas took power and within 6 months began firing rockets at Israeli cities, spending international aid on weapons and waging war after war instead of improving the lives of Gazans. I wonder what message that sent to Israel about the payoffs of a full withdrawal towards the peace process, compared to its trade-offs to national security? Now lets name this world 1949-1966 - West bank and Gaza both occupation free. No settlers no soldiers no nothing. Instead of building a Palestinian state, the entire Arab league continue to wage war to destroy Israel. Its almost like Israel' 'occupation' isn't the real issue here...
more misinformation - so those palestinians were innocent in your view or knowledge ? have you heard of 'intefada ' ?! how many Israelis were killed by palestinians during, before and after such blowing up busses etc.. do you have any idea
@@ciam2255 I'm glad that unbiased clear and verifiable information without propaganda is readily available so i don't have to argue with ill-informed western citizens or with Israeli hasbara online minions.
That’s false, Hamas is in the West Bank and they do have sons control, in fact Hamas was born there, and the PLO, Fatah and PA are no better, it’s not just Hamas it’s the entire ideology of violence and no Israel ever that has to go or there will never be peace
You act like jor doesn't ever have rabidly anti-israel guests on ever. This is patently false. Abbey Martin is one of the most anti-Israel people in America, Joe isn't afraid to have guests on that despise Israel with a passion. Perhaps Joe simply isn't interested in Norman Finklebrains? Joe doesn't bring people on simply because the hate or love Israel. Joe brought Coleman Hugh's on because he's an interesting guest far beyond his opinions on Israel.
This was a good conversation up until this point. Coleman is generalizing the conflict and giving pro Israel talking points like this started yesterday. It's been on going for 75 years.
Major Respect to Coleman Hughes for the deep dive he took into this issue. One of the most informed opinions I heard about Israel and the Palestinians from an American.
Jewish people are not even indigenous to Israel from both a genetic/historic perspective and from a religious perspective. 1: Its pretty much common sense just look at the Israeli population itself they are far from a homogeneous group to be called one people in fact Jewish from Europe, Africa, Asia are closer genetically from their respective area not to the middles east. 1.5: out of the 3500 years of the holly land existence the Jewish population only held that land for 500 years. That land was crafted by Romans, Christians and Muslims. Before the Jewish population the and was controlled and still is by Canaanite populations which is your Levant populations( Modern day Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and some populations in Jordan ) 2: From a religious perspective Abram is the first Jew and Abraham was from MODERN DAY IRAQ, he and his people traveled to Egypt. Then Moises was promised the holy land and by the way in the ancient testament the Jewish peopled committed GENOCIDE to purify the land from the polytheist Canaanite.
@@YA-kr4frfirst of all- you are absolutely wrong about genetics and that is sad. There is a clear jewish gene hereditary to the same ancestors, second, we are closer to our palestinian cousins The bond of the Jewish people to israel is not only historical, it is cultural, religious linguistic and genetic. For 2000 years we speak of the deportation from israel, the exodus from egypt to israel, the rebellion against the empire (hannuca), in our wedding ceremonies we say “if I forget jerusalem I will forget my right hand, and my tongue will stick to my palate”, for 2000 years we pray towards jerusalem (muslims pray towards meccah), our name is jewish as in judea - judea and sameria, one of our mourning days and fasting is the day the temple was destroyed, there are numerous evidence of deportation from israel, of constant jewish presence in israel despite that, the name palestine is roman and is derived from the name plishtim which are an histroical enemy of the jews - used by the romans to humiliate us. We speak the language of the bible, revived and modernized, you can read the same words written in ancient pottery found in the region, we share costums all around the world from morroco to ethiopia to eastern europe to the United States, are we not a people? I do not deny the fact that Palestinians live and will continue to live alongside us, but if the jews are not indigenous to Israel no one is, to deny our history and culture is to be against indigenous people, returning to their homeland.
Praying does absolutely NOTHING! Do you believe you’re intelligent? I assume you do. So if praying helped, wouldn’t this fight be over? If prayer worked and millions who believe prayed, it should do something, yet, it does NOTHING! Actually, it does one thing, it helps the person who offers the laziest thing you can say or do, a bit of piece of mind, like the person praying actually did something. While in fact, the person praying, did the least that any human could do, besides doing nothing. If this imaginary god has a plan, why pray? Why are you trying to get in the way of your gods plan? Why? If he is all knowing, all powerful, what makes you think k praying will help? Do you still believe in Santa Claus? Why not? On a positive note: I agree with you that no innocent civilians should ever be harmed.
Joe turns to Jaimie to pull up some stuff on the hospital and typical Coleman just jumps right in like he's an expert to "break it down for ya Joe". This kid is in love with himself.
after doing a bit of research on this subject, ive come to the conclusion that it is one complicated hot mess over there. but what i have gathered, it was britain that had control of the area and the push for the separate Jewish and Arab states may have been due to the Arab support for the axis under Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. going way back, the whole area was undewr the influence of ancient egypt and known as Canaan. this later gave way to the United Israelite Kingdom which in the 10th century BCE, split into two: the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah. even back then, the are known as the Gaza strip was called Philistine where they worshipped deities like Dagon, Baal-Zebub and Astarte or Ashtoreth, and had contention with the UIK. this shit has been going on before biblical times my friends. the people the jews have had issues with has changed, but there was always a problem with this area vs that area.
Yes, these lands have changed hands many times over the journey, however as we all know, possession is 9/10 of the law and the way I see it, Palestine's we're the last occupiers during our forefathers generation before the Zionists came along, ripped them off their land, and placed them into make shift camps, no doubt filling the pockets of their henchmen. May their souls rest in peace, for they know not what they do!.
Then after that Assyria destroyed Israel and Babylon destroyed Judah. Then Persians were overloards, then Greeks then Roman's. Roman's kicked the jews out. Then byzantines then Arabs of The Prophet Mohammed came in. Demographically making the middle east arab. Then turks came in. Jews were getting lynched in Europe and started to head to Turkish Palestine
I remember back when I was a kid this whole thing was popping off again. Thought maybe it would actually settle in my lifetime. What an optimistic fool I was
@TrixieMatteI nah its a shyt hole and they were celebrating in Palestine like nobody's business when the Tower fell.. Never Forget. They can all fight their own war. Let Palestinian people free themselves
Me to.. And we are gonna be in it longer because well.. He gets this dude on out of all people to explain to us.. Basically going around in circles at this point
All the Israelis and Palestinians know about this, but you shouldn't believe the propaganda. The official spokesman for the Israeli army said proudly on Israel tv that they attacked the hospital and will attract the all the other 4 hospitals in the northern Gaza strip and even tweeted about it , but he changed the narrative stories because the world hated the news. All the Israelis and Palestinians know about this story. Do not believe the propaganda like the babiess false story ,, please use your brain and check your news ,, the sad things that all Israelis known this and make fun of you the Americans because you believed all the probaganda all the hospitals in north Gaza got a rain of warning cards from sky to evacuate or get bombed and the another sad news that just today they bombed another hospital Regarding war crimes, they used phosphorous bombs and banned medicine, electricity and food for civilians
With the Judiciary reforms it's important to remember that Benjamin Netanyahu was mired corruption allegations and was removed once already because of it. These reforms also help protect himself.
@@prsimoibn2710 I wouldn't say that, tbh the majority of Israeli blame 7th of October on him. So now all of his legacy has turned to ruin since he always tried to put himself as Mr. protection.
@@ericchukoltyansky507 he's a narcissist psychopath, he'd do anything to "succeed" so I can see him making a deal with the devil to gain some time on the throne. Mossad or Bibi or the CIA who knows the real culprit behind 7Oct
I don't agree that Israel doesn't want to annihilate Hamas & Palestinians. The reason they don't fully obliterate Gaza is because if they did, they would upset Iran and potentially other parties
Not completely accurate, it's way more complicated. The supreme court always could block the government's decisions when it contradicts the law, the problem begins when the supreme court cancels the government decisions even when they have no law to back their judgment. Which many in Israel perceived it as unlawful and undemocratic.
@@rocco5928You award prisoners. You award those you assert authority over. You and this guest have fully admitted Palestinians are the oppressed, and Israel the oppressors.
We are more than a year away from the 2024 election. Is more than one year "right around" to you? Just goes to show people don't know anything and just regurgitate talking points.
Hughes is trying to tread carefully and possibly have a more nuanced conversation, and Rogan here sounds like a high as a kite grandpa philosophizing about nuclear wars and tribalism instead of asking follow-up questions to what Hughes mentioned or challenging biases or moving the convo deeper into understanding. I’m really disappointed at an opportunity missed considering the potential for an actual discussion and how important it is for our general understanding of both geopolitics and local human struggles. Seriously, Joe dropped the ball here. Joe’s the host with the most, and he’s not prepared on this topic after all the noise.
Nuanced discussion? "Hamas is evil, Israel is good" 😂 This guy is a doofus. He's just repeating Israeli/Western talking points. You can't be that intelligent or curious if you can just repeat one side's talking point and pretend you're educated about the subject.
Joe is afraid of the pro-palestine movement, and doesn't want to lose that part of his fanbase. If he dug deeper into this conversation he would have to concede to a lot of facts that are denied by the so called pro-palestine movement.
@@fz7694 and what does Joe bring to that good/bad dynamic? Where is he probing and challenging? Not only is he not listening deeply enough to have follow-up questions, but then he just goes on a monologue rant like any other bozo. He wasn’t prepared for this topic and instead of silence, Joe added blabbing.
Hamas is evil though, this is a fact. They are as evil as the Nazis ever were. Whether Israel is good is a matter of opinion, and is highly subjective. We know what Hamas did on oct 7, and what they want to do given the chance. We also know what Israel could do if they wanted. If Israel had the same desires as Hamas there would be over a million dead in Gaza with mass rapes thrown in for good measure, Israel has the capability to pull an actual genocide, not a fake one Israel is acused of. So we know shat Israel could do if it wanted to exterminate the Palestinians. This is quite black and white when it comes to this war. The only reason you refuse to see it this way is simply becasuec the Palestinians are militarily weak and Israel is not.
Myself and many others that are against the intentional targeting of humans during war, are disgusted by all of the killings. We obviously understand that there are issues that need to be brought to a controlled table of agreements that ultimately benefit all sides involved in this conflict. A conflict that has existed for far too long.
Yeah, President Trump finally started that with Abraham Accords, which is peace agreements between Israel and some surrounding gigantic Muslim nations. He got one or two countries to sign it, and there were already one or two more that were on board. the next step was Saudi Arabia. However, Biden got in office, put a stop to all the peace agreements between the other countries that are sick and tired of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and their no-holds-barred, will not stop attacking and waging war against Israel bullcrap. Then Biden started giving Iran tons of money, got rid of the sanctions that President Trump put on them because of their anti-human-rights policies, and basically screwed everything up. People been saying forever that there's no way to get peace in the Middle East. then President Trump showed up and showed them how it's done.
I think Palestinian wants that too. It's just a little hard for them since they're under occupation, siege, apartheid on their land. Some of western people will find this hard to accept because they have been taught the history from the Israeli side and not to forget the long history of their nation as occupators.
I totally agree with but at the end of the day remember friend .... Israel invaded palestin ... Israel is a colonial Force and the palestinians are the victims
totally agree, over 4000 Palestinian deaths with hundreds still under rubble. Hamas hide in 300 miles of tunnels, and Israel bomb the churches and medical centres and schools and refuge camps where scared starved people are sheltering. They CANNOT bomb civilians because theres a chance they hit a militant, its horrid. Nobody is excusing Hamas's actions in this, but we know when this is over the death count will be 20 or 50 to 1 and its been happening this way for decades. Israel is going to hit Hamas as hard as they can, and then leave the international community to decide how Gaza/Palestine is governed in the future.
I would be absolutely SHOCKED if the US government was not somehow involved in the Hamas attack given how close this has happened to our own election cycle.
Bro... you telling me an army couldn't see bunch of people coming in with motorbikes and paragliders.... and were able to kill and kidnap and bring hostages into gaza
They 100% would have known what was happening and they let it for some reason. Palestinians getting into Israel and making it back to Palestine is absolute nonsense unless they let them.
@@celticbarry9877 conspiracy nuts are the worst. I suppose you think 9/11 was an inside job? No government is infallibe. You know why -- because all gov'ts are comprised of humans.
Haha how this guys changed the media.. I've always heard the media is saying it was not Israel. Now, he is saying that the media is saying that. He is definitely here to defend Israel. He is trying to avoid speaking something. His words are so controlled.
Exaclty this man is here to defend Isreal. He even started out by saying how the Isreal Supreme Court has been with the Palestinians?? Is he seriously going to sit there and say that???
Disappointed with JR tbh..hes just taking in what this dude is saying and does not even try to present any strong argument with what this pro israeli is saying..really disappointed..we are going to joe because we dont want mainstream media but this guy is getting his sources from mainstream media..hahaha what an idiot..
6:21 JR made one of the best points..We do terrible actions as humans when we dehumanize the outsider. Be aware imo that is precisely the problem with social media. It is non de persona system of looking at a screen + then bonding with the bots or algorithms but not the human who is REAL on the other side of the ether or web. Peace ✌️ ✌️♥️
Israeli gov saying thepeople of Gaza are animals and should be treated as such.. is that othering or dehumanizing those whose oppose them? Jews think goyim/non jews are inferior and subhuman.. is that not dehumanizing people? Rules for yous, but not the jews? Why do we owe allegiance to those who killed our lord and savior Jesus christ? Jews believe Jesus was a criminal that died for his crimes against jews, not our messiah that he died for our sins.. we will be treated the same as the Palestinians if we don't wake tf up.. zionism is the push for a global government centered in Jerusalem. The WEF website tells u the plan if u just take the time to read it.
Wars are confusing and heartbreaking. This will go on forever in that area. Too much history for it to just go away with killing. With hate, revenge and families lost on both sides. Its a sad situation 😢.
Forever? That’s not what your Bible says Zephaniah 3:8 “Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.” KJV
@@direct2397 it doesn’t matter if they’re religious or not, the King James Bible has the truth, so you don’t make statements like “this will go ok forever,” because it contradicts the Bible
the media makes it seem like a complex situation, it isn’t complex at all, Israel just needs to leave the land they are illegally occupying and stop attacking and killing Palestinian people, they need to stop encroaching on their homes and shooting at their children. It’s that simple, leave the land that isn’t yours and stop tormenting people to try and claim their “holy land” from a mythical book of nonsense fairytale stories from hundreds of years ago.
nothing is confusing. its like 1+1=2 that palestine is on the right. JOE REAGAN AND RANDOM WESTERN PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST... U KNOW NOTHING, LITERALLY NOTHING
It's like 1+1=2 here that palestine is on the right. the dude is saying hamas wants islamic state like isis???? well nah u want a christian state like the ku klux klan?? or a christian state like melting babies in hiroshima and nagazaki.. like don't ever mix islam with isis. but hamas???! they literally treated hostages professionaly and according to islam. not a single baby beheaded or woman ra**ed as u claimed. xD!!! google tantura massacre (look what idf soldiers say), der yassin massacre.. the 1920s hagana... @ 10:15 what???? xD! israel is the good guy because it doesn't nuke gaza?! woooo thank u israel for not doing that what a good gentle guy u are... xD i mean yes israel can obliterate palestinians in the gaza strip but what kind of a cowardice shameless way it is to nuke them. They don't wanna look bad in the eyes of everybody.... otherwise they would've done it. they are already targeting kids and hospitals xD!!! they are the good guys xD!! HAHAHAAHAHAHHA
What would make someone an expert on this? I don't know that it's possible to be an expert without repeated trials, immediate feedback, and controlled environments. How do you weigh morality? I suppose it doesn't matter because he was giving his opinion, and never claimed to be an expert. I've noticed a lot of comments critiquing his credentials or qualifications to speak on the matter, and very little debating the arguments he makes. Personally, I thought he made sense. Maybe he's only partially correct, or entirely, or not at all. I think he was mostly, if not entirely, correct. I could be wrong though. I apologize for digressing, my main point was that I don't think someone can be an "expert" on the matter.
If you don’t rule yourself you will be ruled. If you want to explore this answer inside of your own life go outside and do something physically uncomfortable and keep doing it till you can accept the suffering in your own mind. When you can ignore the instinctual callings of your body through the power of your mind you become much harder to control.
JOE REAGAN AND RANDOM WESTERN PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST... U KNOW NOTHING, LITERALLY NOTHING
It's like 1+1=2 here that palestine is on the right. the dude is saying hamas wants islamic state like isis???? well nah u want a christian state like the ku klux klan?? or a christian state like melting babies in hiroshima and nagazaki.. like don't ever mix islam with isis. but hamas???! they literally treated hostages professionaly and according to islam. not a single baby beheaded or woman ra**ed as u claimed. xD!!! google tantura massacre (look what idf soldiers say), der yassin massacre.. the 1920s hagana... @ 10:15 what???? xD! israel is the good guy because it doesn't nuke gaza?! woooo thank u israel for not doing that what a good gentle guy u are... xD i mean yes israel can obliterate palestinians in the gaza strip but what kind of a cowardice shameless way it is to nuke them. They don't wanna look bad in the eyes of everybody.... otherwise they would've done it. they are already targeting kids and hospitals xD!!! they are the good guys xD!! HAHAHAAHAHAHHA
We should all agree that news agencies need to be held liable for misinformation.
You can. Turn them off
Most misinformation on the internet is not from mainstream media.
That could quickly turn into nobody saying nothing.
>people understand that news agencies are lying
>people still believe all the war propaganda BS they read in history books
How about Coleman and fellow critics are held to account. All the NYT headlines I've seen have 'palestinians say ' in the headline informing the reader it's an accusation not a statement of fact
If you’re gonna explain how this conflict started, it might be helpful to go back further than just 2 years…
Why? This conflict is going on because of what occurred recently and as far as going back further than two years, it wouldn’t prove either point because both have committed atrocities. 🤦♂️
Its because if you go back to the beginning of Israel and Hamas its all a chess game and proxy war using both sides as human meat so there can be perpetual war meaning perpetual buisiness opportunity.
Did he state the conflict only began 2 years ago or that the planning and organization of an attack started 2 months ago? Slow down there guy, you might be thinking too fast
Years*
😂 Hughes is just reading straight from Israel’s talking points and propaganda
Dude never explained why the conflict started.
"One of the most Jewish things you can do is reject Jesus Christ."
@@slimgrim996 and spit on Christians, own banks, control the media, and abuse a child
But Jesus was Jewish lol@@slimgrim996
Don't matter, both side did horrible shit in the past. Looking at the past and pointing at fingers doesn't make the future better.
Because he supports the jewish
No matter which side you support, we can all agree civilians should *NOT* be targeted
"Can" yes but do they? No
If you know the history of "Israeli civilian" families you will see that, apart from the babies, no one there is innocent. These are people who moved to live on property stolen from Palestinian families
Israel is about a Jew state - the civilians have always been the target.
@@fernandosouuza3881Sure, the Palestinians are paragons of peace.
@@fernandosouuza3881it was the Israeli land to begin with. Don't fall for the islamic propaganda.
"if you dont read the news, you're uninformed. If you do read the news youre misinformed" -Denzel Washington
This is a very old saying often attributed to Mark Twain (questionable).
That's deep
Well said
That's why it's important to do research, open books from the previous century about history, during a time that bias had no place. I went to the library because I am a jew and I wanted a fresh objective perspective both for myself and for the people around me, I have learned a lot from it.
An example would be how jordan and Egypt owned gaza and the west bank until 1967, even though it was previously part of the Palestinian state
@daleplant5275 white man always did it first, said it first etc
He only went back 2 years. This conflict is older than him. Anyone else noticed how careful he's being?
Shut up. He laid down key points why this certain terrorist attack happened. Which started being planned 2 years ago
You notice how your just some guy who is not even remotely considered informed enough to be invited onto the largest podcast in the world
not sure he wrote the title tbf to him.
75 years of oppression, free Palestine
he interviewed a historian 7 months ago and broke down from the 1940s to current relations on his podcast look it up very detailed lengthy talk on what happened
Coleman Hughes is great! Thanks for this interview.
a fine young man. he has written an excellent book on social theory
The comment section will be a dumpster fire. Where is Ja Rule when you need him.
😂 classic chappelle
He is with Irv Gotti at the Fyre Fest 2023 lol
WHERE IS JA?!
Who gives a f what ja rule thinks at a time like this!? I don’t wanna dance im scared to death
MONICAAAAAA
I'm very impressed with how Joe Rogan always tries to find quotes because he doesn't want to misquote someone. He also gives people the benefit of the doubt . He is a true fact checker and keeps an open mind. It's very refreshing in todays media and podcasts. Thank you, Mr Rogan, for that.
Cis the topic is sensitive 🤡
@kingoftheworld12 yes it is... I'm referring to the entirety of the podcast that was almost 3 hrs. Unfortunately alot of ppl don't see war or conflict as a sensitive matter. Have a awesome day 😎
Comparing a resistance group to a terrorist organization is pure ignorance.
Haha Thats funny!!!!
Rogan a fact checker hahahahahaha???? The dude is the sloppiest researcher there is. He has quoted outrageous sources before.
Piers Morgan is unironically the only one bringing on proper guests
exactly.. I get my history and context there from a variety of sources.. not from Coleman Hughes hahahahaha
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 it’s crazy, especially when these kind of people make crazy remarks with no push back.
Not true dude legit said he's on israel side
Coleman Hughes is totally ignorant on this matter and he is clearly biased to one side. Many information he said is clearly wrong. Israel is recruiting content creators for $2000 a show to spread lies. JRE is a failure by hosting this imposter. come on Rogan, u can do better.
@@KamaiyahFurriends I’m saying it’s funny how someone like him brings on great and well spoken guests from the Palestinian side
The root of this issue is that one side wants the other side to no longer exist.
By one side, you mean the one side that’s genociding the other side right?
wrong. The root of the issue is Zionist Jew Israel colonized Palestines and oppressed the indigenous Palestinians
Yea. Israel wants to delete palestinians from the world
Ya Israel has been slowly culling the people of Gaza and West Bank for over 50 years!
Well duh
“Didn’t we learn anything from WWII? Didn’t we learn anything from the Holocaust?” We did, for a time. Unfortunately, as the generation that experienced it makes their final exit, those lessons are swiftly being forgotten and it appears events are culminating in a way that we may relearn that horror.
Spot on... unfortunately VERY spot on
The irony is cosmic.
Actually we didn’t really learn about WW2 #one nation under blackmail
We're primates and have always acted like this.
Nope we lost ww2 and gave power to the "bankers"
YASHERKOA TO COLEMAN HUGHES FOR HIS ACCURATE ANALYSIS!
Malcolm X said "The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent.”
I know from my family what Gaza is like that visited there last year, Apartheid prison.... the news can tell you otherwise.
Im from South Africa, and i know Apartheid.
They don't call it "WHITE-washing" for no reason 😂
@@mrb2643I visited there last year as well and didn't seen any signs of a "apartheid prison"
And We are witnessing it right now on earth.
@@JFK762 What goggles were you wearing? I live in the region. And I've been. And I have friends on both sides. Out here, both Isrealis who have survived the brains-wash and Palestinians acknowledge - it's apartheid by a different name. Never mind what the Palestinians say - read Israeli reports - Paled, Finkelstein, or Pappe?
This is one of the biggest problems with having a 24-hour news cycle. Everyone wants to be the first one to tell the whole story, even if they only have a few unconfirmed fragments of the story to work with. By the time any corrections are made, the public is already passing around an inaccurate narrative.
But the bad guys that can't be trusted told me to trust them....
Smart people already factor this into their propaganda plan ;)
Mind Begs the Question:
If Israel - bombs a Church
If Media - censors,hides that news
Media - Fair or Zionist Controlled?
well its better than not having news sources and not knowing
your mom is one of the biggest problems with having a 24-hour news cycle. so
Wow that was actually a stellar explanation of the judicial reform controversy over there. Bravo
yeah i was surprised it was that accurate
That was a very, very good summation. Agreed.
Agreed, though he left out one crucial detail.
The American supreme court does not get to appoint their own judges, or veto nominations. The Israeli supreme court does.
@@snakey934Snakeybakey The Israeli supreme court is too powerful and I say this as an Israeli who is generally against the massive reforms that this current government has pushed forward. I think some of the reforms suggested make sense but the way they were presented (as well as the absolute trash we have in government/the Knesset) makes me very very wary of what the actual goals are (for instance - saving Bibi's skin from all the charges against him in several cases).
@@shtroizn Bibi's skin was already saved.
The truth is we've never had a good government. Ben Gurion before 1948 was extremely unpopular in Israel and seen as a British collaborator (because he was) our first election was just him seizing power while all of his opposition was away fighting.
It is my hope that we can change this and eventually get the government we deserve, but the biggest obstacle in the way of that is the Supreme Court.
“Historical events are never fully understood in the heat of their own time, but only at a great distance, after a cooling of passions.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Russia 🇷🇺 #1
Yeah...we get to learn the lies of the winner later on, cause the other part is silenced or dead.
Agree but people can't bring up what happened in 1948 without bringing up the fact Roman's kicked out the jews out of isreal first. Histroy will favor isreal everytime.
That’s why they’re pushing us to pick a side and ACT NOW!
Isn't the framework of Hamas "Kill all Jews" a good enough understanding of the conflict?
No way joe had this guy on to explain to him the last 2 weeks of a 70+ year old conflict
👍👍👍👍
@@alexthurman6808 then I’ll have nothing to keep the fireplace going
Guy is a clown lol. Has no clue about anything
Seriously! Neither informed nor involved. Wtf Joe.
This here, is one of the problems, why stop at 70? Let's go BC, read your Bible
Its not about getting the story right. Its about getting the story first.
These big corps know they wont be held liable because of fog of war. Truly disgusting and shows wisdom needs to be in the hearts of everyone now more than ever
I agree but its not just the big news corps, its pretty much every single independent pundit too.
Boycotts are needed how else does one hold news outlets accountable
He is basically brainwashed. He says that Israel receives Palestinians for work, then he says that Israel has laws of war that it follows, then he says that the terrorist groups made a mistake and blew up the hospital. First, Israel is an occupier. Second, the Palestinians have the right to self-defense, just like the right of the Israeli occupation. Third, Hamas is not like ISIS. It does not want a Jew to remain on the land, rather it is only against the occupation. Fourthly, Israel is committing war crimes by bombing homes and buildings. Finally, this is not the first hospital that Israel has bombed, and it has warned the hospital to evacuate many times. Israel is a state created by Satanists. The religious Jews are against this state. In fact, the years of brainwashing have actually succeeded in their work. You must know that Israel terrorizes the Palestinians daily. The Palestinians live in the largest cage and the largest prison in the world. They are imprisoned inside a large land. Lucifer is leading the battle against humanity. Wake up.
Denzel
This or delivering the news for the highest bidder
How does Mr. Coleman feel about the conditions of the Palestinians prior to the attack by Hamas? Also Israel, supposedly, has the world's best surveillance equipment and personnel that it's strange they didn't know this attack from Humas was coming. And supposedly, Egypt warned Israel 3 days before the attack.
hamas takes all the money gaza recieves. they dont care about their residents there that's why please open your eyes
We were willing to give up on our security for semblance of the possibility of peace, and regarding the conditions in gaza, Palestine receive billion of dollars from UN FOREIGN aid and American aid, yet no schools have been built by thr elect regime hamad, no hospitals either, the Palestinians live in poverty while there leaders live in luxury in qatar and turkey, Israel is the oly country in the region that opened the gate to allow Palestinians to work in Israel, up to Oct six 130000 workers were granted visas and able to provide a much better life for there families, ask yourself why egypt syria jordan and lebanon have not offered any help or refuge. Btw its other arabs that kill Palestinians assad regime have killed more then 1 million Palestinians with mustard gas
@ohadgutman5557 Even if everything you stated in your reply was factual, why does that give Israel the right to carry out genocide?
we had warnings about 9/11 too ...
he clearly said that they don't want genocide in fact the population of gaza & west bank had doubled in 10 years .. why do they keep having babies ? @@hereslookingatyoukid3504
Praying for all the children involved in the conflict
yeah it's so sad that 500 Palestinian children were killed and 40 imaginary Israeli babies were killed
100
That you, my friend’s sister’s children Ariel and Kfir Bibas ages 4 and 1 are kidnapped held hostage by Hamas for more than 1 year 💔😢
So thank you. May they come home 😢💔
Everyone needs to take the time to read a book and learn about the history of this conflict.
Which one? I think that is what started all this so maybe we shouldn't.
Problem is it's not black and white. Everyone has their bias
The more you read, the more you learn that the reason the Arabs lost so much territory is because they launched and initiated multiple wars against the Jews throughout the 20th century.
You can’t start wars and complain that you lost territory when you lose. Unfortunately it is a consequence. The Jews in Israel is not the result of an invasion, but the result of defensive victory against an aggressor.
@@stevend481It is. Palestinians don't want to live next door to Jews.
@@stevend481no, it's pretty simple, actually. Invaders wrong, oppressed right.
He didn't explain the conflict. He explained "how " the attacks happen
Exactly. And he is obviously taking sides
The mainstream narrartive being played on nearly all news stations I've seen is singluar and lacks any nuance or complexity involving the history. A solid 70% of people, I'd guess, have no clue the full context of either side. In a world of propaganda, consider the source twice, and believe it not at all; trust is the luxury of the uninformed, and in this arena, ignorance is your adversary.
Perhaps the title is wrong
Maybe Israel would open the gates if you stop blowing up busses, nightclubs, pizza joints. That's right, go back and look at that history.
Ironically, Egypt will not let the Arab Palestinians cross their border either and the residents of Gaza have Egyptian blood.
@@Conntrailed they did start the occupation. You're ignorant on this matter. And you're okay with childrens being killed for "self defence"? Imagine blaming the rape victims for fighting back. Disgusting. Everyone can see the evil of israel
Speaking of respecting the International laws, why Coleman wasn't asked about the settlers?
international law violation... hmmm a certain group rhyming with ramas comes into my mind, but apparently people simply living in empty areas is a warcrime... sure
Do you think he would have said "The settlements are perfectly fine?"
The settlements are not fine but they are also in the west bank, and the dispute is not as clean cut as people are being lead to believe. Israel are buying land off Arabs. They can and do prove that. The dispute is that doesn't give them the right to raise their flag (and I agree, it doesn't).
There are no settlers in Gaza.
@@mmuser9137where are they?
If Joe doesn't get another person's perspective on this I will be very disappointed
Can't handle the truth?
@@Reisher can’t handle bombings of hospitals
Who would you like? An ISIS rep?
Agreed. This guy is an ersatz “expert” 😏
Just because you didnt like that Coleman didn't align with your own facts doesn't mean Joe needs to bring a second opinion on the show
Keep it up guy ..Ull have the job at CNN in no time !!!
Exactly....the kid is an idiot with an agenda clearly. Is saudia arabia or Dubai a death cult? They have sharia law. Is Malaysia a death cult? They have sharia law. This guy really does not know the religion or history well. My only guess is that he is a secret apocalyptic Christian doomsdayer that actually believes in that prophecy called rapture. which would make him turn blind eye to all of what Israel does so long as it brings his Jesus back.
CNN credibility is beyond reproach.
😂😂😂
Haha how this guys changed the media.. I've always heard the media is saying it was not Israel. Now, he is saying that the media is saying that. He is definitely here to defend Israel. He is trying to avoid speaking something. His words are so controlled.
CNN hates truth though.
When they say "little knowledge is dangerous"..... This is what they mean
Exactly, everyone saying "free Palestine " need to do some educating
@@mostlyshorts7462 So " No free palestine"?
Coleman Hughes and JRE are just the Best!!!!!
What’s happening now is absolutely insane, but not surprising unfortunately. The media has played the major role in this issue also
And who are the ones that controls the narrative? The Zionists have pretty good hold of the news..
the entire comment section is filled with IDF bots too, as well as youtube censoring comments. thanks Joe !
Up until September 2021, the United States had used its veto power in the United Nations Security Council to protect Israel from sanctions or resolutions critical of Israel's actions at least 41 times, out of a total 83 times in which its veto has ever been used in UN by US.
100% Israel and US habitually violate international law. So, pretending as if this is a both sides issues completely dismisses who is actually responsible.
Yes syria didnt got 1
I'd like to see who were proposing these sanctions. The UN has a lot of countries who hate Israel but are not critical of other countries doing the same or even worse human rights violations.
Yeah united nations that is full of so many Muslim countries using sheer numbers to vote Israel as abuser of human rights constantly. Saudi, Iran, Yemen, Egypt
Türkiye, Syria (that are bombing their own people by the way) and Palestine the enemy of Israel mots ?Muslim countries always vote against Israel . Yeah those nations voted that and you think UN is credible? . Such unbiased vote don't you think? Sarcasm by the way. Not to mention China and Russia and their allies. But yeah the united nations like anyone gives a damn what they think.
@@pipemajormcquinnon3055 Saudi, Iran, Yemen, Egypt
Türkiye, Syria (that are bombing their own people by the way) and Palestine the enemy of Israel ?Muslim countries always vote against Israel and never admit their own faults. Saudi violate human rights every single day but they never mention it. Muslim countries always vote in favor of one another and against Israel.
You'd think news media would be more careful in their reporting considering people already don't trust it. At the end of the video when they were talking about the hospital bombing, the media was showing images of a destroyed building, but as it turns out, that wasn't really the hospital. That's one more thing that annoys the heck out of me with news media. The images they show us are NOT even related to their talking points. We will literally never get the WHOLE picture when dealing with the news. It's so annoying.
He is basically brainwashed. He says that Israel receives Palestinians for work, then he says that Israel has laws of war that it follows, then he says that the terrorist groups made a mistake and blew up the hospital. First, Israel is an occupier. Second, the Palestinians have the right to self-defense, just like the right of the Israeli occupation. Third, Hamas is not like ISIS. It does not want a Jew to remain on the land, rather it is only against the occupation. Fourthly, Israel is committing war crimes by bombing homes and buildings. Finally, this is not the first hospital that Israel has bombed, and it has warned the hospital to evacuate many times. Israel is a state created by Satanists. The religious Jews are against this state. In fact, the years of brainwashing have actually succeeded in their work. You must know that Israel terrorizes the Palestinians daily. The Palestinians live in the largest cage and the largest prison in the world. They are imprisoned inside a large land. Lucifer is leading the battle against humanity. Wake up.
dude, the operation room's roof fell off, try to listen to the doctors who were actually there and not the media, they don't have Access to gaza cuz it's an open prison
You want the whole picture? You can see it LIVE if you want from reporters over there in the field. You can literally see hundereds of piles of dead bodies (men, women, and mostly children).
You can see people crying, people who have lost their ENTIRE families.
I saw one girl who have lost 17 familiy members in one night.
Parents are writing the names of their kids on their legs so that people know who they are if they were mutilated by bombs.
Thats the sad truth.
Thats the truth the media won’t ever show.
Israel is crying over a 1000 israeli dying, including soldiers?
Well palestinians are crying over more that 5000 woman and child being MRDRD.
Israel took credit for the hospital bombing immediately after it happened. The tweet from their bureaucrat got deleted and it took 18 more hours before they released a statement claiming it was an 'errant hamas missile.' Good rule of thumb if you live in america is that if the news is saying Israel did nothing wrong, theyre almost always lying.
The solution is simple: stop watching mainstream media.
I like this guy. He thinks for himself and looks at things objectively and works to not be influenced by popular politics. Guys like that are rare these days
"Israel wants to generally respect what a war crime is"?
Thats when I was like oh this guy's full of shit
that was a hilariously incorrect comment, cannot believe he actually said that
Yeah. I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell, too.
Israel has been committing war crimes execution style for DECADES but you won't hear about it because the media blocks it.. They continue to displace Palestinians from their homes and land their ancestors are buried..10,000 Palestinians born in Jerusalem have no legal status because their parents hold different ID cards and Israel will not register them. They have no legal rights. Majority of Israeli's are Eastern European-- There is no such thing as Israeli Couscous or Falafel, or Tabbouleh but they claim it there's too just like land. The pressure cooker of decades of oppression has burst.
Yeah. You know when the IDF killed 1500+ civilians and video taped themselves desecrating the bodies.
Oh wait…..
This man must have been undercover in hamas to know so much details of their plan
A spokesperson for Israel also tweeted that Israel bombed the hospital.
He also continently forgot/ is unaware that the hospital was warned for days to evacuate…. I really thought this was going to be an interesting interview but the guest sounds like he’s reading off of the nightly news teleprompter…. Like word for word! Do they pay these ppl? Makes me really sad
@@bentnotbroken4192why would anyone bomb a hospital where civilians are getting much-needed care? Israel is a top military power in the world. Palestine has no military. Open ur eyes bro u sound nuts
and this folks is how misinformation is spread....derek from youtube said isreAl boombed hOspital
The guy is just a blogger not a spokesperson.
Bull
Wait, but is he not gonna mention that the supreme court thing in israel is also about natenyahu trying to get out of the major corruption charges against him, he was tryin to change the constitution and that’s why people were angry
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Let the dumb people like Coleman continue speaking and please don’t interrupt
This might be accurate, but as someone who lived in Israel, but not a Bibi fan, there is a lot more to it then that. The judicial system is messed up in many ways. For example, in Israel, when you retire from the supreme court, you pick your successor. Also, the supreme court can overrule any law the Knesset passes for no particular reason other then they don't like it. The real issue is that Israel doesn't have a constitution which leads to the judicial and parliamentary issues they face today. I do not agree with Bibi's version of reform, but there should be reform.
@@mmuser9137thanks for taking a minute to share a sophisticated view.
The judicial reform was suggested by both Yair Lapid and Benny Gantz, the opposition in the past. They just changed their mind because there has been a very obvious 10 year witch hunt against Bibi, who led Israel's GDP growth from 125 Billion to 525 Billion under his leadership. Anyone who thinks Israel would have done that under the socialists is a total dunce. His trials ended up with zero convictions and several being thrown out.
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That is not true. The supreme court is choosen by a committee with politician (from both sides), the lawers association and current judges. The new judge need to be approved by the government.
I'm also not a Bibi supporter + I'm a don't support the reform, but I can understand what the right wing want. The supreme court checks the legality of every new law based on other Israeli laws.
How did the 500 people get killed in the hospital if the missile didn’t hit the hospital at all??
Hamas gladly sacrificed them with their failed missle. Unfortunately this is what they do use humans as shields and kill their own.
There's plenty of videos showing hospital parkings full of people..
It was free parking.
send a link@@vladimirkalugin7287
there werent 500 people killed, that is the point
Crazy how these political events are always brought by perfect storms
I'm sorry but who is this guy to explain this historic event? Shouldn't we get some people from both sides who are from that region to explain their sides, and maybe we can deduce some type of truth between.
JOE REAGAN AND RANDOM WESTERN PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST... U KNOW NOTHING, LITERALLY NOTHING
It's like 1+1=2 here that palestine is on the right. the dude is saying hamas wants islamic state like isis???? well nah u want a christian state like the ku klux klan?? or a christian state like melting babies in hiroshima and nagazaki..
like don't ever mix islam with isis. but hamas???! they literally treated hostages professionaly and according to islam. not a single baby beheaded or woman ra**ed as u claimed. xD!!!
google tantura massacre (look what idf soldiers say), der yassin massacre.. the 1920s hagana...
@ 10:15
what???? xD! israel is the good guy because it doesn't nuke gaza?! woooo thank u israel for not doing that what a good gentle guy u are...
xD i mean yes israel can obliterate palestinians in the gaza strip but what kind of a cowardice shameless way it is to nuke them. They don't wanna look bad in the eyes of everybody.... otherwise they would've done it. they are already targeting kids and hospitals xD!!! they are the good guys xD!! HAHAHAAHAHAHHA
@@gottahavegoalssetI’m not aware of Joe Rogans show being something similar to “All sides considered.” He has a guest, that guest has an opinion on the subject that Rogan wanted to share by uploading this video. What’s the problem with that?
Perfect storms are more than coincidence, and they involve more than the plans of man!
@@mikefromoh2925 that is currect 1000% , but he says some things thats not totaly true wich can lead to a huge miss information , and no one from the inside will say anything becouse it will destroye there life js just shame on humanity shame
I love that the NY Times isn't actually investigating claims before it prints a click bait story. I love that reporters have to go to college to be lazy AND wrong. Think that they take a class on it?
Well the NY Times did their Best to cover up the Holocaust from FDR orders during WW2.
Sources:
The Abandonment of the Jews ---
David S Wienman
Buried by the Times --- Laurel leff
Beyond All Belief --- Peter Lemesurier
NYtimes report 1851 to 2001 ; 150th Anniversary --- Turning away from the Holocaust published in the NY Times, November 14, 2001.
Max Frankel
The new york times was right.
@@dmolmalowski No they weren't. They were proven wrong. The hospital is still standing.
With the Free Press having the responsibility it does in an open free society, you would think the journalists would have to get some sort of accreditation like a lawyer, passing the bar or something along those lines. Any schmuck with an opinion can call themselves a journalist at this point, until we rectify that things are just going to continue to get worse.
@@dmolmalowskinope. They are 100% wrong
Thank you for the brilliant guest! Finally someone with common sense and well informed!
I know right. And knows how to explain. Really clearly and calmly
Hilarious how people are treating war like a football game 😂 which side to "support." Yea bro, your social media post is really supportive
It's people using this war and deaths for attention and clout money. And people like drama it's sad
Exactly! My opinion? If you stand "with" Israel, then go stand IN Israel. If you stand "with" Palestine, then go stand IN Palestine. It's easy to say you support one side or the other inside the comfort of American borders.
What if we just want Peace and stop the killing. I just dont want anyone oppressed or to live in Jail and I don't want anyone killed and living in fear. You can't ignore and look the other way when childern are being killed from both sides
@@mood5598 peace? Ha! That's hilarious. You know why there will never be peace in the world? Bc there's no profits in peace.
@@two_legit1832 99.9% of the people who support palestine and Hamas have never even been to gaza or Israel so they dont know anything they're just fed with lies and propagandas
Joe should invite Bassem Youssef. He was amazing on Peirs Morgan
Bassem is a comedian too. But Joe won't invite him because he's controlled too unfortunately. He seems to have that over tin window too that Ben Shapiro fired Candace Owens for. At least when it comes to Israel. He has been very careful about critique of Israel and been trying to portray this as a 'nuanced topic' all the while the whole world can see the genocide in plain sight
All he does is hate and lie about this
I'm convinced using historical claims to land will never lead to a solution in the region. There may be boundaries and borders that some from both sides would agree on but the unresolved extremist issues and family-driven emotional ties to the territory would persist. Any proposed solution is going to move citizens from their homes and I'm not convinced the majority of people would move willingly. If you're born into this conflict and have a home in the region, being told to leave because some group claimed it 'x' years ago is brutal pill to swallow.
But we have to call a spade a spade. We are talking about one set of peoples who have lived on that land in the majority for countless generations, and another group of essentially immigrants who -since 1947- have flooded the place and all but expelled those who were born there, had deeds to their houses ect ect.
We can not pretend like this is some kind of equal cause. If we like it or not, Israel is clearly a terrorist state, with the worlds largest open air prison. Lets be real.
and if you go far enough back in time ain't nobody gonna be pleased. The "Caananites" aren't around so do you give it to the next people in line? That would be pre-Islam Egyptians I guess. If you don't give it to them then the next after that are the Israelites. It took Islam another 2000 years after that to be invented so... yeeaahh...
The only thing consistent here is inconsistency. If you just look up Jerusalem it's been attacked and razed some insane amount of times. Good luck everybody!!!
Sadly it's not about land from their side..
It's a war to eradicate all jews from their homeland..
As every peace deal so far fell through..
Every armastice was broken..
And every two state solution was rejected..
By the Arab side...
So tell me, what can be done?
Between a side that wants peace and to preserve life and between a side that wants the other dead and worships death?
people need to get this in their heads. if we want to use history to make conclusions, how far back are we willing to go?
It has zero to do with land/material things. It's all about the extermination of the Jews, period.
coleman hughes is a really smart man
My whole family was injured in Manchester. The first thing I did after getting out of hospital was to ask why it happened. It is always a revenge thing. It is always to do with money. Stop people making money from death and you will stop people taking revenge.
Revenge + religion. Unfortunately religion is used as a shield to arm the ignorant
Sorry to hear about the injury of your family. I hope you heal kindly. Civilians should never be targets in any political conflict. Combatants from any side enter war willing to pull the trigger and expecting their death, though tragic, but civilians, no matter what most of the worlds tyrrant governments do, do not deserve this suffering.
You should of asked why the manchester met police were doing bomb drills at the same time and failed to stop it happening and what is the motivation behind apparent incompetence.
@@mattvanemden7573 I know someone who was working for the stage crew during the day, and while working they heard gossip that something was going to happen
Sorry that happened. Yes Hamas leaders are billionaires off stealing the international aid for this conflict, its a huge motivating factor
I can already smell the disclaimer from Spotify
It only took 81 years for the world to forget the horrors of World War 2... 81 years! Incredibly sad.
The 4th turning happens every 80 years approximately. These usually end in war.
@@mthoodstylewhat happened before the 1940s for their 4th turning?
@@mr.patriotjolYes but without the Carthaginian terms given to the Germans after WW1, the National Socialists probably don't rise up.
@@Bennett2142Possibly not true. There were many other factors to consider. The German revolution, irresponsible German government spending, how Germany financed the war to name a few.
Socialism was the trend at the time. Adding race to it (considering the focus of the world on eugenics) isn't that surprising.
Indeed. We forgot that once Germany invaded Poland then proceeded to invade another and another and another country, while the West was still debating if the Germans were really that much of a threat. Luckily Japan was dumb enough to poke the Eagle or the borders of the world today would have been much different along with our official languages.
People really need to stop with all this kumbaya nonsense. Peace is obtained by obliterating aggression, not by standing idly by hoping that if you treat better the people who would have you killed they will stop wishing that.
Seek your allies on those that are like minded, wish for peace, and fight to keep it. Not on those who have opposite values of yours, are only happy to dominate over you, and fight as soon as they get the slightest upper hand.
Great guest. Speaks the truth
Actually he seems misinformed historically on the subject.
@@antidote7actually he is spot on, especially when it comes to judicial reform. But since he dpesnt parrot what you want to hear you will just do what every smoothbrain does
@@thecakeisalie6601 When you listen to academics who spent their entire lives on the conflict and examine the history and human rights reports etc, he comes off knowing very little.
So quite frankly, you are incorrect.
We are living in a strange world, where outsiders think they have more information about what is going on that the people living through it everyday..
No offense intended but the people living there have been unable to make peace. Sometimes outsiders have a more objective point of view.
No one is trying to listen to Arab terrorist any longer 🤷♂️
@@anjr6282 Sure on this specific story. The point was that the situation may benefit from an objective outsider who isn't emotionally involved. Just structurally the lay out of territory has been destined to fail. A North South split of the territory makes practical sense, splitting the West Bank at Jerusalem, Jericho and Bethlehem to Israel and Ashkelon to the Palestinians. This has been dragging on since before I was born, never mind the Bronze Age. After the dust settles some settlement must be made.
Well said!
I can't believe there is unrest in the Middle East.
I hope this doesn't start some kind of trend over there.
Lol the West established a state for the Jews in order to ensure the Middle East stay at unrest and the failure of the Arabs to unite again, so that there would be no transfer of power
You mean, normal everyday life? xD
Just a normal day for those peaceful people. Everywhere they rule is just so peaceful. lol
@@DarkPassenger I wonder who killed over a million people in Iraq?
@@DarkPassenger yeah so peaceful like US who gives Isreal billions of dollars of your money taxes to support them till this minute the West fully support kids killers what a peaceful people they also got rid of red Indians and killed over one million Iraqi people andd don't mention what happened to afiraca you know so peaceful and so cute 🥺
Out of all ppl to ask about the war this is the guy lol
Coleman is correct. Thank you to Joe for being a truly humble person open to all ideas and people and willing to admit when he was wrong.
"let's for a minute imagine a world without Hamas, what will this world look like? Let's name this world the -West Bank- ...
Hamas has absolutely no control in the West Bank... since the beginning of this thing only through August: 37 Palestinian kids were killed, no music festival, no paragliding no Hamas... Since the occupation of the West Bank: 7,000 Palestinians were killed, no music festival no paragliding no Hamas"__ Bassem Youssef
you're right, Fatah, Al Aqsa Brigades, and Islamic Jihad are just as evil. And yes Hamas does have power in Judea & Samaria as well, just not completely
'Lets for a minute imagine a world without the occupation. What will this world look like? Lets name this world Gaza. Israel fully withdrew giving Gaza full autonomy. No settlers, no soldiers, no Jews, no nothing. Hamas took power and within 6 months began firing rockets at Israeli cities, spending international aid on weapons and waging war after war instead of improving the lives of Gazans. I wonder what message that sent to Israel about the payoffs of a full withdrawal towards the peace process, compared to its trade-offs to national security? Now lets name this world 1949-1966 - West bank and Gaza both occupation free. No settlers no soldiers no nothing. Instead of building a Palestinian state, the entire Arab league continue to wage war to destroy Israel. Its almost like Israel' 'occupation' isn't the real issue here...
more misinformation - so those palestinians were innocent in your view or knowledge ? have you heard of 'intefada ' ?! how many Israelis were killed by palestinians during, before and after such blowing up busses etc.. do you have any idea
@@ciam2255 I'm glad that unbiased clear and verifiable information without propaganda is readily available so i don't have to argue with ill-informed western citizens or with Israeli hasbara online minions.
That’s false, Hamas is in the West Bank and they do have sons control, in fact Hamas was born there, and the PLO, Fatah and PA are no better, it’s not just Hamas it’s the entire ideology of violence and no Israel ever that has to go or there will never be peace
JR needs to interview Dr. Gabor Mate, who is a holocaust survivor and has a better understanding of what's been going on.
Joe rogan needs to remember his conversations with Abby Martin.
Why?
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Coleman Hughes is a completely sane person with a balanced perspective and a methodical storytelling gift. Great guest!
Calling Israel “the good guys” is not balanced perspective.
Joe Rogan doesn't have the guts to have Norman Finkelstein on
Prof Funkystains is a washed out clown. Of course Joe will not give him a platform
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You can see that hateful fool's babble on plenty of other channels.
You don't need to be brave to have Finkelkike on.
You act like jor doesn't ever have rabidly anti-israel guests on ever. This is patently false. Abbey Martin is one of the most anti-Israel people in America, Joe isn't afraid to have guests on that despise Israel with a passion. Perhaps Joe simply isn't interested in Norman Finklebrains? Joe doesn't bring people on simply because the hate or love Israel. Joe brought Coleman Hugh's on because he's an interesting guest far beyond his opinions on Israel.
I think Joe answered his own question very well.
lol
This was a good conversation up until this point. Coleman is generalizing the conflict and giving pro Israel talking points like this started yesterday. It's been on going for 75 years.
Major Respect to Coleman Hughes for the deep dive he took into this issue. One of the most informed opinions I heard about Israel and the Palestinians from an American.
This dude already made up his mind who is good and who is bad in this situation of war😂😂😂
Jewish people are not even indigenous to Israel from both a genetic/historic perspective and from a religious perspective.
1: Its pretty much common sense just look at the Israeli population itself they are far from a homogeneous group to be called one people in fact Jewish from Europe, Africa, Asia are closer genetically from their respective area not to the middles east.
1.5: out of the 3500 years of the holly land existence the Jewish population only held that land for 500 years. That land was crafted by Romans, Christians and Muslims. Before the Jewish population the and was controlled and still is by Canaanite populations which is your Levant populations( Modern day Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and some populations in Jordan )
2: From a religious perspective Abram is the first Jew and Abraham was from MODERN DAY IRAQ, he and his people traveled to Egypt. Then Moises was promised the holy land and by the way in the ancient testament the Jewish peopled committed GENOCIDE to purify the land from the polytheist Canaanite.
he is in the denial
@@YA-kr4frfirst of all- you are absolutely wrong about genetics and that is sad. There is a clear jewish gene hereditary to the same ancestors, second, we are closer to our palestinian cousins
The bond of the Jewish people to israel is not only historical, it is cultural, religious linguistic and genetic.
For 2000 years we speak of the deportation from israel, the exodus from egypt to israel, the rebellion against the empire (hannuca), in our wedding ceremonies we say “if I forget jerusalem I will forget my right hand, and my tongue will stick to my palate”, for 2000 years we pray towards jerusalem (muslims pray towards meccah), our name is jewish as in judea - judea and sameria, one of our mourning days and fasting is the day the temple was destroyed, there are numerous evidence of deportation from israel, of constant jewish presence in israel despite that, the name palestine is roman and is derived from the name plishtim which are an histroical enemy of the jews - used by the romans to humiliate us. We speak the language of the bible, revived and modernized, you can read the same words written in ancient pottery found in the region, we share costums all around the world from morroco to ethiopia to eastern europe to the United States, are we not a people?
I do not deny the fact that Palestinians live and will continue to live alongside us, but if the jews are not indigenous to Israel no one is, to deny our history and culture is to be against indigenous people, returning to their homeland.
It's easy to make up your mind when something is so obvious. He doesn't need more time or evidence to think about it...
Sounds like you have to… 🤔
“The first casualty when war comes is truth”
He need to work for Hollywood
I pray for both sides, for all the families and innocent lives lost on both ends. Thats the true tragedy, the innocent’s being killed. ✝️🙏🏾
Both sides kill Christians with impunity.
Israel bombed the world’s oldest church in Gaza…..
Praying does absolutely NOTHING! Do you believe you’re intelligent? I assume you do. So if praying helped, wouldn’t this fight be over?
If prayer worked and millions who believe prayed, it should do something, yet, it does NOTHING! Actually, it does one thing, it helps the person who offers the laziest thing you can say or do, a bit of piece of mind, like the person praying actually did something.
While in fact, the person praying, did the least that any human could do, besides doing nothing.
If this imaginary god has a plan, why pray? Why are you trying to get in the way of your gods plan?
Why?
If he is all knowing, all powerful, what makes you think k praying will help?
Do you still believe in Santa Claus? Why not?
On a positive note: I agree with you that no innocent civilians should ever be harmed.
@@cashcowcommissions6790to much yapping calm down
@@廾W lol that was a shitload of words, where did he get the time? Oh...Atheists. Never mind.
Like Malcolm X said "the slave of the house and the slave of the field"
And I think this guy enjoy living in the house of his master
This is the dumbest boot 👢 licking guess I ever seen
What? because he’s partial and has an IQ ? Always got to be some racial shit quotes from X smh think you should steer to strong leaders like MLK.
I agree! so sad
Joe turns to Jaimie to pull up some stuff on the hospital and typical Coleman just jumps right in like he's an expert to "break it down for ya Joe". This kid is in love with himself.
Seriously, the irony is later in the podcast they start complaining about people who do exactly what he does throughout the podcast.
Sounds more like you just didn't like his answer so you attacked his character and not his message. Ad hominem attacks the weakest of all.
@@paulm3969 Even if someone has a reputation of not being a truth teller, it's always good to vett their claims before you try to discredit them.
Great context and one of the most informed commentators on this that I have heard. Well done Coleman.
Im so sorry he completely misses the mark here! Was a big fan of Coleman but not anymore. Check out Dave Smith comment on this episode.
after doing a bit of research on this subject, ive come to the conclusion that it is one complicated hot mess over there. but what i have gathered, it was britain that had control of the area and the push for the separate Jewish and Arab states may have been due to the Arab support for the axis under Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. going way back, the whole area was undewr the influence of ancient egypt and known as Canaan. this later gave way to the United Israelite Kingdom which in the 10th century BCE, split into two: the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah. even back then, the are known as the Gaza strip was called Philistine where they worshipped deities like Dagon, Baal-Zebub and Astarte or Ashtoreth, and had contention with the UIK. this shit has been going on before biblical times my friends. the people the jews have had issues with has changed, but there was always a problem with this area vs that area.
Yes, these lands have changed hands many times over the journey, however as we all know, possession is 9/10 of the law and the way I see it, Palestine's we're the last occupiers during our forefathers generation before the Zionists came along, ripped them off their land, and placed them into make shift camps, no doubt filling the pockets of their henchmen. May their souls rest in peace, for they know not what they do!.
Then after that Assyria destroyed Israel and Babylon destroyed Judah. Then Persians were overloards, then Greeks then Roman's. Roman's kicked the jews out. Then byzantines then Arabs of The Prophet Mohammed came in. Demographically making the middle east arab. Then turks came in. Jews were getting lynched in Europe and started to head to Turkish Palestine
Get over it. It’s 2023’
What's complicated about colonialism?
yes
I remember back when I was a kid this whole thing was popping off again. Thought maybe it would actually settle in my lifetime. What an optimistic fool I was
Muhammad beheaded 800 Jews in Medina 623 AD
And Jews were called “Palestinians” before Islam even started
This definitely goes back hundreds of years
zionists see selves as a race destined to control and rule world at the cost of others.
Maybe Israel shouldn’t have stolen Palestinian land
@@TrixieMatteI Zionists Israel is destined to be the whole world in their beliefs.
@TrixieMatteI nah its a shyt hole and they were celebrating in Palestine like nobody's business when the Tower fell.. Never Forget. They can all fight their own war. Let Palestinian people free themselves
Who else is tired of living historic events? Personally, I’m exhausted.
Me to.. And we are gonna be in it longer because well.. He gets this dude on out of all people to explain to us.. Basically going around in circles at this point
This talks should show in the campus as educational purposes.
And this is why we need alternative media.
All the Israelis and Palestinians know about this,
but you shouldn't believe the propaganda. The official spokesman for the Israeli army said proudly on Israel tv that they attacked the hospital and will attract the all the other 4 hospitals in the northern Gaza strip and even tweeted about it
, but he changed the narrative stories because the world hated the news. All the Israelis and Palestinians know about this story.
Do not believe the propaganda like the babiess false story ,, please use your brain and check your news ,, the sad things that all Israelis known this and make fun of you the Americans because you believed all the probaganda
all the hospitals in north Gaza got a rain of warning cards from sky to evacuate or get bombed and the another sad news that just today they bombed another hospital
Regarding war crimes, they used phosphorous bombs and banned medicine, electricity and food for civilians
With the Judiciary reforms it's important to remember that Benjamin Netanyahu was mired corruption allegations and was removed once already because of it. These reforms also help protect himself.
This war saved him, actually I should say, letting Hamas cross the border fits his agenda like a glove
He was never removed because of it, he has a standing trial.
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I wouldn't say that, tbh the majority of Israeli blame 7th of October on him. So now all of his legacy has turned to ruin since he always tried to put himself as Mr. protection.
@@ericchukoltyansky507 he's a narcissist psychopath, he'd do anything to "succeed" so I can see him making a deal with the devil to gain some time on the throne. Mossad or Bibi or the CIA who knows the real culprit behind 7Oct
@@ericchukoltyansky507 all I know is that in the Mossad there are two wings, one speaks french
I don't agree that Israel doesn't want to annihilate Hamas & Palestinians. The reason they don't fully obliterate Gaza is because if they did, they would upset Iran and potentially other parties
Man, his explanation of the judicial reform is on point
Not completely accurate, it's way more complicated.
The supreme court always could block the government's decisions when it contradicts the law, the problem begins when the supreme court cancels the government decisions even when they have no law to back their judgment.
Which many in Israel perceived it as unlawful and undemocratic.
Tell me you're biased without telling me you're biased.
This guy was sent by Israel to counterbalance the previous guest.
Coleman must have not heard that Egypt warned Israel three times about the attack and Satanyahoo chose to ignore it.
Coleman is so wise, eloquent and knowledgeable. Impressive!
No he is clueless just like you
"Award for good behavior" explains everything
That’s completely bs.
They’ve been killing Palestinians even the last 2 years.
So you dont want them to be awarded when they dont go on a suicide mission
You know perfectly well what I'm talking about.
@@rocco5928You award prisoners. You award those you assert authority over. You and this guest have fully admitted Palestinians are the oppressed, and Israel the oppressors.
A conflict right around election time ... Wow almost like every other election since my childhood 😂😂
You loco ??...stupid from the top...?
Yup, or pandemic
What a false statement 🤦🏻♂️
"Attention bias"
Your egocentric position doesn't let you see nothing but a narrow spot of your false ideas.
Main character syndrome.
The world has shit going on irrespective of your election cycle
We are more than a year away from the 2024 election. Is more than one year "right around" to you? Just goes to show people don't know anything and just regurgitate talking points.
"You think Israel is Superman but it's actually Homelander"
Hughes is trying to tread carefully and possibly have a more nuanced conversation, and Rogan here sounds like a high as a kite grandpa philosophizing about nuclear wars and tribalism instead of asking follow-up questions to what Hughes mentioned or challenging biases or moving the convo deeper into understanding. I’m really disappointed at an opportunity missed considering the potential for an actual discussion and how important it is for our general understanding of both geopolitics and local human struggles. Seriously, Joe dropped the ball here. Joe’s the host with the most, and he’s not prepared on this topic after all the noise.
Nuanced discussion? "Hamas is evil, Israel is good" 😂
This guy is a doofus. He's just repeating Israeli/Western talking points. You can't be that intelligent or curious if you can just repeat one side's talking point and pretend you're educated about the subject.
Joe is afraid of the pro-palestine movement, and doesn't want to lose that part of his fanbase. If he dug deeper into this conversation he would have to concede to a lot of facts that are denied by the so called pro-palestine movement.
Perfect comment!
@@fz7694 and what does Joe bring to that good/bad dynamic? Where is he probing and challenging? Not only is he not listening deeply enough to have follow-up questions, but then he just goes on a monologue rant like any other bozo. He wasn’t prepared for this topic and instead of silence, Joe added blabbing.
Hamas is evil though, this is a fact. They are as evil as the Nazis ever were. Whether Israel is good is a matter of opinion, and is highly subjective. We know what Hamas did on oct 7, and what they want to do given the chance. We also know what Israel could do if they wanted. If Israel had the same desires as Hamas there would be over a million dead in Gaza with mass rapes thrown in for good measure, Israel has the capability to pull an actual genocide, not a fake one Israel is acused of. So we know shat Israel could do if it wanted to exterminate the Palestinians. This is quite black and white when it comes to this war. The only reason you refuse to see it this way is simply becasuec the Palestinians are militarily weak and Israel is not.
Myself and many others that are against the intentional targeting of humans during war, are disgusted by all of the killings. We obviously understand that there are issues that need to be brought to a controlled table of agreements that ultimately benefit all sides involved in this conflict. A conflict that has existed for far too long.
Yeah, President Trump finally started that with Abraham Accords, which is peace agreements between Israel and some surrounding gigantic Muslim nations. He got one or two countries to sign it, and there were already one or two more that were on board. the next step was Saudi Arabia. However, Biden got in office, put a stop to all the peace agreements between the other countries that are sick and tired of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and their no-holds-barred, will not stop attacking and waging war against Israel bullcrap. Then Biden started giving Iran tons of money, got rid of the sanctions that President Trump put on them because of their anti-human-rights policies, and basically screwed everything up. People been saying forever that there's no way to get peace in the Middle East. then President Trump showed up and showed them how it's done.
I think Palestinian wants that too. It's just a little hard for them since they're under occupation, siege, apartheid on their land.
Some of western people will find this hard to accept because they have been taught the history from the Israeli side and not to forget the long history of their nation as occupators.
How can someone like you, who is disgusted by all killing, ever have what it takes to destroy evil?
I totally agree with but at the end of the day remember friend .... Israel invaded palestin ... Israel is a colonial Force and the palestinians are the victims
totally agree, over 4000 Palestinian deaths with hundreds still under rubble. Hamas hide in 300 miles of tunnels, and Israel bomb the churches and medical centres and schools and refuge camps where scared starved people are sheltering. They CANNOT bomb civilians because theres a chance they hit a militant, its horrid. Nobody is excusing Hamas's actions in this, but we know when this is over the death count will be 20 or 50 to 1 and its been happening this way for decades.
Israel is going to hit Hamas as hard as they can, and then leave the international community to decide how Gaza/Palestine is governed in the future.
I would be absolutely SHOCKED if the US government was not somehow involved in the Hamas attack given how close this has happened to our own election cycle.
It is not started, it is lasting sinds 1948...
Lol, it's a historical fact Roman's kicked the jews out of isreal first.
@@SamuelMills-ez4jo And what? were the Roman's muslims?
@@SamuelMills-ez4jono one cares about the romans. Get over it
Where’s the Canaanites when you need them
@@SamuelMills-ez4joWhat are you talking about? The Bible isn't human history.
Where’s Jamie fact-checking Coleman?
He spoke all facts
@@thepowerofmyth ok Jamie
@@thepowerofmyththe eyes see the truth but the heart is blind
“They don’t have this really genius system of checks and balances that we have” 😂😂😂
Said no one non american about the american political system 😂
@@steveb2205y’all’s privilege is showings
@@steveb2205I'm sorry who does everyone rely on for help? Yall talk shit all you want but it ain't Europe who is dealing with this
@skeeteronthewater1568 You're the problem creators what did you expect, who's supplying weapons for this genocide to take place rightnow
@@MrNoNonsenseYes ya because Europe never has caused any issues right.........🤡
Bro... you telling me an army couldn't see bunch of people coming in with motorbikes and paragliders.... and were able to kill and kidnap and bring hostages into gaza
They 100% would have known what was happening and they let it for some reason. Palestinians getting into Israel and making it back to Palestine is absolute nonsense unless they let them.
They were roaming in Israel for 6 whole hours before IDF were set out. This was a false flag event simple
@@celticbarry9877 conspiracy nuts are the worst. I suppose you think 9/11 was an inside job? No government is infallibe. You know why -- because all gov'ts are comprised of humans.
Only thing we learned from WW2 is how profitable war is. And here we are
😂😂 that is the only thing?
And Jews were involved in WW1/2 and now ww3
Haha how this guys changed the media.. I've always heard the media is saying it was not Israel. Now, he is saying that the media is saying that. He is definitely here to defend Israel. He is trying to avoid speaking something. His words are so controlled.
Nah playa, TNYT reported that it was Israel whom rocketed the hospital and now is backpedaling... stfu
i dont know where he have the guts to lie like that.. and its stupid that joe taking his words like its the truth..wtf?
Exaclty this man is here to defend Isreal. He even started out by saying how the Isreal Supreme Court has been with the Palestinians?? Is he seriously going to sit there and say that???
Disappointed with JR tbh..hes just taking in what this dude is saying and does not even try to present any strong argument with what this pro israeli is saying..really disappointed..we are going to joe because we dont want mainstream media but this guy is getting his sources from mainstream media..hahaha what an idiot..
What a specialist this guy is to talk about this subject 🤦♀️
a beautiful system of checks and balances, available to influence with lobbying dollars, and where the weapons industry determines foreign policy
I agree, it's a very naive take on his part.
Yeehaw! City of London go brrrrr
I LOLd at this part
Finally, someone who's honest!
6:21 JR made one of the best points..We do terrible actions as humans when we dehumanize the outsider. Be aware imo that is precisely the problem with social media. It is non de persona system of looking at a screen + then bonding with the bots or algorithms but not the human who is REAL on the other side of the ether or web. Peace ✌️ ✌️♥️
Agreed, people are very skilled at dehumanizing others.
I think that comment from Joe was beautiful and something the world needs to here more
Israeli gov saying thepeople of Gaza are animals and should be treated as such.. is that othering or dehumanizing those whose oppose them? Jews think goyim/non jews are inferior and subhuman.. is that not dehumanizing people? Rules for yous, but not the jews? Why do we owe allegiance to those who killed our lord and savior Jesus christ? Jews believe Jesus was a criminal that died for his crimes against jews, not our messiah that he died for our sins.. we will be treated the same as the Palestinians if we don't wake tf up.. zionism is the push for a global government centered in Jerusalem. The WEF website tells u the plan if u just take the time to read it.
When ppl do what Hamas did, they dehumanize themselves
Israel is the N"O"N"C"E of the middle east.
Wars are confusing and heartbreaking. This will go on forever in that area. Too much history for it to just go away with killing. With hate, revenge and families lost on both sides. Its a sad situation 😢.
Forever? That’s not what your Bible says
Zephaniah 3:8 “Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.” KJV
@@Kevin-nr9hp"your bible" who say's that the guy who made the comment is religious?
@@direct2397 it doesn’t matter if they’re religious or not, the King James Bible has the truth, so you don’t make statements like “this will go ok forever,” because it contradicts the Bible
the media makes it seem like a complex situation, it isn’t complex at all, Israel just needs to leave the land they are illegally occupying and stop attacking and killing Palestinian people, they need to stop encroaching on their homes and shooting at their children. It’s that simple, leave the land that isn’t yours and stop tormenting people to try and claim their “holy land” from a mythical book of nonsense fairytale stories from hundreds of years ago.
nothing is confusing. its like 1+1=2 that palestine is on the right. JOE REAGAN AND RANDOM WESTERN PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST... U KNOW NOTHING, LITERALLY NOTHING
It's like 1+1=2 here that palestine is on the right. the dude is saying hamas wants islamic state like isis???? well nah u want a christian state like the ku klux klan?? or a christian state like melting babies in hiroshima and nagazaki..
like don't ever mix islam with isis. but hamas???! they literally treated hostages professionaly and according to islam. not a single baby beheaded or woman ra**ed as u claimed. xD!!!
google tantura massacre (look what idf soldiers say), der yassin massacre.. the 1920s hagana...
@ 10:15
what???? xD! israel is the good guy because it doesn't nuke gaza?! woooo thank u israel for not doing that what a good gentle guy u are...
xD i mean yes israel can obliterate palestinians in the gaza strip but what kind of a cowardice shameless way it is to nuke them. They don't wanna look bad in the eyes of everybody.... otherwise they would've done it. they are already targeting kids and hospitals xD!!! they are the good guys xD!! HAHAHAAHAHAHHA
This is very horrifying. The media and people being so quick to believe and reacting.
This guy knows EXACTLY what's going on.
This Coleman Hughes is well spoken but who made him an expert on the matter?
Zionists are the only ones who agree with him but also know his points are all lies 😂 might as well have Bibi on next
His Rat made him expert on this matter
He is on a PR mission on behalf of Manhattan Institute, a neoconservative think tank.
Why not somebody from the Human Rights watch?
What would make someone an expert on this? I don't know that it's possible to be an expert without repeated trials, immediate feedback, and controlled environments. How do you weigh morality? I suppose it doesn't matter because he was giving his opinion, and never claimed to be an expert. I've noticed a lot of comments critiquing his credentials or qualifications to speak on the matter, and very little debating the arguments he makes. Personally, I thought he made sense. Maybe he's only partially correct, or entirely, or not at all. I think he was mostly, if not entirely, correct. I could be wrong though. I apologize for digressing, my main point was that I don't think someone can be an "expert" on the matter.
I think the main question for everyone everywhere should be, how do we convince our government to stop using our insticnts against eachother?
12 iq comment
If you don’t rule yourself you will be ruled. If you want to explore this answer inside of your own life go outside and do something physically uncomfortable and keep doing it till you can accept the suffering in your own mind. When you can ignore the instinctual callings of your body through the power of your mind you become much harder to control.
@@alexturner3089fact
JOE REAGAN AND RANDOM WESTERN PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST... U KNOW NOTHING, LITERALLY NOTHING
It's like 1+1=2 here that palestine is on the right. the dude is saying hamas wants islamic state like isis???? well nah u want a christian state like the ku klux klan?? or a christian state like melting babies in hiroshima and nagazaki..
like don't ever mix islam with isis. but hamas???! they literally treated hostages professionaly and according to islam. not a single baby beheaded or woman ra**ed as u claimed. xD!!!
google tantura massacre (look what idf soldiers say), der yassin massacre.. the 1920s hagana...
@ 10:15
what???? xD! israel is the good guy because it doesn't nuke gaza?! woooo thank u israel for not doing that what a good gentle guy u are...
xD i mean yes israel can obliterate palestinians in the gaza strip but what kind of a cowardice shameless way it is to nuke them. They don't wanna look bad in the eyes of everybody.... otherwise they would've done it. they are already targeting kids and hospitals xD!!! they are the good guys xD!! HAHAHAAHAHAHHA
@@mexicaninjafredfredthat seems like the average IQ of the world rn 😅