My dad told me one thing about politics that has stuck with me. Don’t be worried when left and right are fighting like cats and dogs. Really worry when both sides agree
@@antonolufayo7804 Well, it's been clear they're trying to prolong the Ukraine war as long as possible until the war itself becomes an existential threat to the stability of Russia. That's all of the left-wing of the Western countries and most of the right-wing... although for a lot of people it's just unwitting. Most people fall for propaganda immediately; their thinking doesn't go further than putting a Ukraine flag in their Twitter bio. And the easiest way in my mind to think of Putin is to relate him to Trump's big narrative, in this case: "Make Russia Great Again", except he's a lot shrewder. He certainly isn't going to stand for Russia crumbling.
I don't agree. E.g. with leaders like Osama bin Laden and Putin, dictators pretend to stand up for human rights and for freedom and things like that, but basically they are lies and they only want those around their regime to submit to their needs and they do so in the shadow of the lie.
The logic in the video (that the Russians who chose to end people's lives aren't the ones at fault) is the same logic that says people in prison aren't guilty because their environment shaped them that way.
@@wkrp01he never said Russia isn't to blame a couple of times in the video. He just said it's important to know the overall context and that it wasn't completely unprovoked.
if you're saying Putin is getting humiliated by Ukraine then we definitely got humiliated by Afghanistan. We couldn't get the job done in 20 years fighting guys in sandals and then left them billions in weapons while we left....
@@Avogadros_number Dude Russia has taken over 4 regions since the war started and controlled 15% until a week ago . What he said is not far from the truth ...
@@JB-pt7sr??? NATO in Ukraine means missiles , military bases , not just a small fleet of warships. Russia doesn't have all that in Cuba , it was just a set of ships . NATO has been active in Ukraine since 2014 . Russia tolerated a lot of their bs
@Emperor_Bly Well thanks for your reply I did not intend to insinuate that a small contingent of Russian ships in Cuba poses any threat to the U.S. I was replying to the remark that Russia was not in Cuba. Russians have been in Cuba since the 1950's
Also sir Russia placed I.C.B.M. rockets in Cuba nuclear missiles pointed right at U.S. cities. And it made us nervous A.F. so I can understand and sympathize with you about nato being on your doorstep
On 9/11 I was in high school and a classmate asked the teacher why we had been attacked. Her answer was "Because those people hate our freedom and way of life." Even as a freshman, I knew those were the words of a stupid person.
The sheer amount of propaganda aimed at Ukraine coming DIRECTLY from the Kremlin was insanity. This dude, Dave Smith, didn't mention Russia's insane attempts at taking over the culture of Ukraine nor did he mention the OVERWHELMING vote of the Ukrainian people in 1991 to separate from Russia. What a fool!
As Americans, we've allowed our government to become too big, too strong and too corrupt. It's hard for me as a 24 year Army veteran to sit back and watch our country's power and influence disrupt / create conflicts often to distract us from horrific actions conducted behind the scenes of our elected leaders! I'm terrified of the world we're leaving for our children and grandchildren...
The problem is dumb people voting other dumb people into power. The fact that Herschel Walker - who can't formulate a single sensible thought - almost got 50% of the votes says enough. You all need to take some serious lessons in critical thinking.
I'm not trying to be a dick here. I have utmost respect my man. I'm British, my point I guess, is historically if our two countries along with other allies hadn't meddled/influenced and engage in proxy wars along with other forms of warfare. The world would look very different. It's not perfect, it's far from it. But better the devil you know. If the UK hadn't meddled in Hitler's great plan in 1939 along with France and 8 British colonies and former colonies and declared war to fight against a tyrannical state, the world would have a very different power dynamic that I'm not sure would be a lot of fun to live in. When Churchill visited your congress in 1942, had the United States decided not to meddle or continue to sit neutral like so many did then let's be honest mate we wouldn't be in a position to be sharing our opinions over a Joe Rogan podcast on the interwebs. Anyway, I appreciate your service, you should hold your head up high, I think it could be so much worse.
@@simonc9874 look before that. all those wars are started by tearing down the royal families and creating a central bank. Most of these wars after ww1 are there to give the power to the central banking systems to put country's into debt. This debt gives these Central banking systems the power and laws they want to control the world. the new world order - ruclips.net/video/xguam0TKMw8/видео.html
Learning to not interrupt is the best conversational trick I know. You can improve your conversations overnight just by listening completely and not compulsively interjecting.
As an Eastern European I can say that people who learned history know the conflict between Russia and Ukraine has many reasons underneath and started AT LEAST a decade ago.
@@tomrick9462 True. But not only HIS ego. Russia is an empire since 12 centuries. They have always been an empire, even when they were labeled “communists”. The ideology is tightly related with feodalism and nationalism.
@@tomrick9462Fuck, they are told by a person who really knows what he is talking about. The answer is Putin's ego, brilliant stupidity. People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine. Without People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine.
This guy is an idiot and he knows nothing about Vladimir Putin's behavioural patterns. If any peace deals were to take place, Russia would invade a couple years later - after demilitarising Ukraine - making the occupation that much easier. This was never a war for Donbas, and if you still think it was then you're misinformed. Americans miss the urgency of this kind of stand that Ukraine is making against their invaders. This interview is months old, so I'm going to give the clown in the video the benefit of the doubt, but we've learned just how irrational Putin is since the war broke out. The fact that Russia has so clearly attempted to genocide the Ukrainian peoples and we still have people like this calling for "peace" makes me lose hope. Imagine if the tables were turned. Imagine Russia was trying to take a part of the US. You wouldn't be so quick to call for peace now, would you? If you don't involve yourself in Eastern European politics and you don't have an active interest in this situation, its best you just be quiet and abstain from sharing your opinion.
Really? he's been doing this for years and on so many different subjects and guest's this is the only thing you could come up with to comment?! Seriously, that he let's them talk?! Fml.
No institution in America has America’s best interests at heart. Most Americans have NEVER heard this. The schools do not teach it, the government doesn’t discuss it (publicly anyway…) and the media doesn’t report it. So glad this is being shared. We are doomed unless we wake up.
Never going to happen. Atleast until a good portion of the baby boomers are dead and in the dirt. They're the very generation with authority and influence over literally everything you just said. They refuse to retire, they refuse to just take their money and fade into irrelevancy. They've lost 2 wars and caused multiple financial crises. I'm not saying a country should be ran by 20 or even 30 year olds. But it should be ran by people who will be subjected to their decisions in the following decades. These old dinosaurs will be the death of us all. Nearly all of the world leaders are in/around their 70's. You need to be 35 to be president and I think thats fair but after 65 you need to be O.U.T.
@@CASTRO45ACP They are willfully ignorant. The only thing that can change their mind now is God's punishment, just like in the Old Testament. People back in the Old Testament could only understand God's punishments and miracles that were done to teach the people only by having God do that directly and obviously. All you can do is to pray for God to have mercy on your neighbours who are neck deep in these lies and do not know the truth.
The problem with this entire situation is that it’s damn near impossible to talk about all of the nuance without being accused of sympathizing with Putin, there’s a lot going on here with this whole thing that must be discussed. We’re being dragged into a potential war on a table of lies
Exactly. 👍 The people who brought you so many lies to get into wars all over the Middle East are now expecting you to belive more lies and garbage that could end all life on earth.
It's an unprovoked war. Russia must be stopped. I don't see the alternative. If Russia won't negotiate, they need to lose. Otherwise, you have another WWII Germany, just steamrolling through Europe. This is important, more important than people's pet theories on the military industrial complex. Sometimes the military is necessary, and this is a true defensive mission, a battle for the sovereignty of Eastern Europe as a whole.
that Colbert Report clip of the fed talking openly about intervening in Ukraine's internal politics to start pulling them away from Russia and laughing about the possibility of war is absolutely disgusting. Note that clip has since been taken down from RUclips.
Putin's trouble started when he refused to endorse gay marriage and make it a law , he won't back the sick perverted gay and insane transgender agenda, that's why Putin is hated worldwide the New World Order it's pushing a vile sick luciferian agenda Putin goes to church and he won't play the game that's why they want to eliminate him.Putin has been anti-gay and anti-trans from the beginning of his presidency he's going against the New World Order agenda and that's why they're coming down on him like a ton of bricks. , that are trying to pull Ukraine away from Russia and Russian influence. Ukraine will be a leading proponent of the gay agenda in Europe when war is all said and done , watch and see !
he should have interrupted him and told him all of that he was saying is bs though. 1. Russia had a signed pact with Ukraine to never attack them so they gave up their nuclear arsenal to Russia. Putin also told everyone right before the invasion, that they will not invade Ukraine. So therefore any deal with Putin and Russia is worthless as they will break it. Russia will never leave Ukraine (if not forced). Every eastern country knows that. Russia cannot be threatened by NATO anyway (its a defense pact). How can you threaten a nuclear superpower? Putin only doesn't like NATO because then he could not simply attack a country without activating NATO. As long as you not invade a NATO country there will be no issues. 2. There is no signed contract that NATO will never expand east. 3. To the argument that we need to listen to Putin why he hates the west and why he is attacking Ukraine: here are a couple of fake and random reasons from Putin: - Ukraine is committing genocide against ethnic Russians - Ukraine isn't a real country - De-nazify Ukraine - NATO expansion - Ukraine may be using Nuclear weapons in the future 4. The referendum from 2014 was fake and everybody knows that. There was also a referendum about the annexed parts of Ukraine. everybody could witness live how they lied, threatened people and faked the whole thing. The real reason is to expand Russia and gain more power
@@P4nopticon not nearly as bad as some. There's a fine line you walk I think it does a pretty good job of it but there are so many who are just bloody freaking awful at it.
Well sometimes you have to. Russia threats to nuke if someone fights back. So what do you want to do then? They will take Ukraine, Estland, Finnland and so on. A life in fear is not a wearthy life to live.
About russian language in Ukrain:1) in 2003 in Donbass, only 4% of students were taught in Ukrainian, and 96% in Russian. 2) In 2017, Zelensky hired a tutor to speak Ukrainian better.
Interesting fact, russians were never ethnical population in Donbass and any other Ukrainian region. In Donbass villages people speak Ukrainian, in cities russian because in times on empire and then in soviet times russia spread russification politics to destroy Ukrainian identity. They were doing absolutely the same in Baltic countries and Kazakhstan. After 2004 russia was continuing to spread its ideology in Ukrainian regions such as Donbass, Kharkiv (which was historically always Ukrainian and more intelligent so their propaganda didn't work here) and in South of Ukraine, because this was a part of their geopolitical points, to control the Black sea. So russian language was never mother language in any of Ukrainian region.
Now y'all know what Russia-gate was all about. Getting you ready for the big hate-fest when the war starts. Hope y'all are supporting the current thing!!
One thing I was told growing up in America as a man was be ready to go to war. My grandfather got drafted for ww2..my father got it for Vietnam. I got lucky I didn't...I pray the same for the young men in our country...war is hell!
@@NoName-hs4ov is this a legitimate question? Or are you just bored and want a reason to start drama? I dont logically think war would be anything less than hell incarnate.doesnt matter wether youve been in war or not,the notion of war is to kill other men over different beliefs and nowadays the weapons we use will inhumanly tear you apart and leave you a bloody husk.imagine seeing your comrades youve bonded with blown to pieces in front of you.war is hell plain and simple.it sure isnt heavenly thats for sure.
"Your empire's hands look a lot cleaner when you get to decide when history starts, and what parts of it don't count." - James S.A. Corey, Persepolis Rising
You Americans live only by the fake fear imagine the suffering you have impose on other Nations. I am from Poland and don't worry about nuklear onec they do it is all over no fear no worries. The worst is the media terror and stupid people are more harmful and degerous really again fighting for years why, for what, for who?!!! Americans will fight with Russia to the last Polish man watch out people. We had onec freedom from Germany by Americans pictures and vidios made in Auschwitz the leave under USSR. But this war was finnance from New York and Prescot Bush grandfather Gorge Bush yeah what an epic family happy Americans. Both sides are dangerous not to play with sneaky and well maintain by Banking Cartel prabobly in Swizerland FED i their IMF and BIS.
Just look at how many massacres Israel has caused in Palestine and if you were born today… you wouldnt even know the way that everyone has forgotten and allows it to still happen unchecked
"Japan instigated a completely unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor." (Never mind the oil embargoes, rejecting Ambassador Nomura's countless pleas for peace, or the US fleet preparing to retake Southeast Asia). Even though Japan was a transgressor, Americans swallow up the most facile and convenient simplifications.
@@rogbrogb5341 the correct Ukrainian presedent is elected so you can repeat your ideotic propaganda as much as you want, zelenskis win was even an opset😂😂😂😂
@@MrNatsuka you mean President Zelensky? The brave leader of Ukraine who stood up against the tyranny of your boss Vladimir Putin? The one who was offered to leave Ukraine but instead decided to stay in Ukraine and lead the Ukrainian troops and fight the invasion? Yeah I trust somebody like that 100%.
There are plenty of sources for what Dave said. Unfortunately, you have to look up independent journalists since our paid for media doesn't report actual news.
@@MK384 brave leader? He is hiding under his bunker. He allowed his people to be killed just for his selfish motives and to appease his warmonger masters in the US and EU!
If you look up "Dave Smith Ukraine" his channel doesn't even come up. RUclips doesn't want people to see what he has to say, but silencing Joe Rogan would be too overt.
I found immediately as soon as I put in search. Keep believing it some kind of secret information…. It what satan wants you to believe. Be fooled and deceived….it is your choice!!!!
@@satanicmuffin9309 but why are you so interested in what Joe Rogan says? He does know at least something about Ukrain or russia ? In the video, two guys not involved in the topic at all, just are sitting and telling bullshit.
As a European sometimes I feel really sad when I hear American 'experts' talk about the geopolitics with such confidence and yet so little actual understanding of the situation.
I'm pretty sure Dave Smith is just a comedian. But your point is well taken. Most Americans do present themselves as experts even if they're just hearing about something today.
@@criticalmoment3859 Anyone who comes to Joe Rogan expecting a super-critical, thoroughly researched discussion of anything is the kind of person who wouldn't understand it even if it was presented to them with diagrams. See what I mean?
This is the problem with the American education system and the American media in general. They are both not interested in teaching their students and viewers how to think, instead they are focused on teaching them what to think.
Yeah, but if they teach the "how to" then most people would spot their corruption. Luckily for the govt, a lot of people could not see the truth... even the Left was supporting Neo-Nazis & Chanting Azov, Azov like an idiot they are. The LEFT has become a warmonger through over the years of inability to discern truth, falsehood & deception.
Vladimir is super concerned with teaching people how to think. That's why eastern europe loves him so much. They all want to vote referendums by gunpoint.
Or better yet stop demonizing white Christian European Russia. Who would relentlessly do such a thing in their media? hmmmmmmm. Putin just said in his speech the Soviet Union is over and they are not going back to that, but western media still pumping the Cold War rhetoric. USSR started in 1920, when America still had decades more racial segregation to go. Also, you can blame the UK elites for Trotsky, Marx and the subsequent slaughters. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing is also sound advice. So is don't watch MSM or late night tripe.
When I was a teenager, and we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I was completely against it. So were all my friends who I agreed with on almost everything politically. Twenty years later, my politics have changed in almost every way, but I'm still against war and warmongering. Unfortunately, somehow, all my friends who were so against war and warmongering as teenagers now seem really hyped to project American military power. What changed? The media messages they were consuming.
No. Your friends were against the afghan and iraq wars because America was the invader. This time russia is the invader. Your friends have morals which you don't.
The previous Chancellor of Germany said if Ukraine joins NATO it's immediate war with Russia. In 2021 she left office. In 2022 Ukraine starts proceedings to join NATO and here we are. Also Russia wanted Ukraine's offshore oil rigs primary reason they took Crimea in 2015. Putin wants Ukraine's oil and doesn't want weapons there pointing at Russia. He panicked when his puppet fled the country.
When you're learning that will happen until you look at opposing viewpoints eventually you'll get a feel for it, depends how quickly your mind breaks free. If you're skeptical that's already a good thing.
I love JRE because Joe let's his guest finish speaking. He listens and understands. He answers with well thought out responses or questions. It's refreshing to actually hear someone finish a paragraph let alone a sentence without someone trying to one up what they have to say.
Yes, and it's mind numbingly infuriating trying to watch those late night host after long form podcasts like JRE. Like you have to lower your IQ and attention span to connect.
Well almost all pro-russian RUSSIAN SPEAKING RUclipsrs got removed from the platform Besides Russian tv channels are banned in EU and USA It's funny that that move was called "protection of free speech" Orwell at best
ha. you should watch the movie _network_ and then take a look at modern "news" channels (that includes fox - stop pretending you're not "mainstream" when you're literally THE BIGGEST news channel out there)
They say he's losing to the poorest country in Europe but yet the poorest country in Europe is receiving multibillions of dollars worth of high-tech weaponry
We will never understand these rulers of communist countries. I feel a lot of it started with little bush but I honestly did like him Even though I'm a Democrat. And it has only gotten worse
he is omitting some facts to portray a slightly twisted picture to try and justify russias point of view, when their point of view is not much more than imperial ambitions and restoring the soviet union. russia is extremely corrupt, people are living in poverty and alcohol indiced haze. russia has been at war with ukraine since 2014, and for example the voting held in donbass he mentioned was unlawful even back then
Okay, let’s go from the start. 1. The war is not on Russian border, it’s happening on the large part of Ukrainian soil. 2. Nobody told Ukraine not to negotiate. That’s a made up fact right there. All Russia wanted from the negotiations was to Ukrainian government to resign and the army to stop fighting which was unacceptable. They did not want to change their minds. 3. The only provocation on this conflict was first, the invasion of Crimea, then the Donbas region conflict that was fully made and financed by Russia. It’s nothing about NATO, Putin actually does not give a F about it. The evidence for that is Finland and Sweden joining NATO now. Russia had nothing against it. 4. The 2014 revolution was fully organised by Ukrainian people. And the West had nothing to do about it. People did not want to get closer to Russia all that Russia always wanted and was doing was to destroy Ukrainian culture. They’ve been killing us for hundreds of years and we still remember that. We wanted to join EU, something that meant a greater future for us. 5. The Poroshenko was not fully a pro west president and had nothing to do with it. Actually the majority of his business was done with Russia, but that’s a whole different story. America did not decide who and where would lead Ukraine after it. We had an honest election here. 6. Joe Biden’s son story is his own business story that had nothing to do with politics. 7. Donbas region was overtaken by Russia, then, militarised by Russia, fully financed by Russia, that had a made up referendum with no international observer during the process. Fake referendum. As the one they are doing right now again.
or maybe once you believed the hype, now you have been red pilled. Lol. Remember when Eminem had balls, when crime meant you get locked up, and when men were men and boys were boys and everyone knew what a women was! Ahh yes the good old days! LETS TAKE EM BACK!
What exactly are his goals? Sure he prevented Ukraine from joining nato but Finland and Sweden joined nato after the invasion. So stupid for a dictator
The military industrial complex have totally orchestrated this war from before Ukraine was even a country and have been pushing to keep it going and escallating it every step of the way. The war was totally and completely provoked.
I hope we never do either, so blessed to have two oceans as boundaries, and also the number 1 most important amendment to the US Constitution, the one amendment that protects and paves the way for all others. Stay strong 2A supporters...
@@geico1975 In my opinion 1st amendement is the one curse thing that will cause the destruction of this country; Think about it, the most protected peoples in this world are presidents, still coup happens; and they get killed. All their security apparatus, and guns doesn't save them when a determined ennemi is out to get them, guns only provide a fake sens of security. I have witnessed civil war 1st hand it's the worse kind of warfare cause neighbors attack each other for all the places in human history there is no country where the population is well armed as the US; the people who created this law out of concern that Indian natives would claim back their lands, the same law will be that chicken that would come back to roost; why? Imagine how a war between communities would look like if it's triggered, in my opinion worse than a nuclear war. So, 1st amendement isn't à good thing.
As Georgian, even for me its pretty hard to go back and look at it all to understand the roots of the cause as it dates way back before even WW1 (1783 for Georgia). Short version is, our countries are subdivided into provinces similar to states in USA and they have local governments, under USSR officials were put in place to govern those provinces. As anything in soviet union they were corrupt people who decided to steal and plunder, eventually turning into local war lords. It took years to get rid of them and curb corruption as they were armed better than our own military in some cases. Why did we get rid of them? well they were abducting people both local and foreign, obstructing development and keeping people poor and uneducated. Now for all those people who think USA is the bad guy scheming in the background in every conflict, you're right USA provided intelligence to help win those internal conflicts, however what you forget is that Russia never sat doing nothing. Russian military was still present in Georgia after collapse of soviet union and they refused to leave, we were ready to accommodate them even build barracks for their men and provide food and infrastructure yet they refused to sign non-aggression treaty. In 2008 they activated their military in response to us trying to prevent acts of terror in Tskhinvali region (insurgents blowing up civilian and police infrastructure killing both policemen and civilians). Now why did they ignore other conflicts prior? (exception Apkhazia) well simple, they stopped military intervention once they got within reach of gas pipeline in Georgia supplying Turkey and EU so the answer is painfully clear. Ukraine is the same, its never about those people in Luhansk and Donbas, if it was about civilians then Russia wouldn't indiscriminately bomb civilian infrastructure, in Georgia we put our military infrastructure ways away from civilians yet they still came under fire, honestly if Russia wasn't a threat we wouldn't need to join NATO so...
Which was all one country called the USSR 30 years ago. Russia didn't invade Moldova. They never left when the USSR fell. In Georgia not all wanted to seperate from Russia. South Ossetia had a UN endorsed military Pact with Russia as its peace keeper and that's why Russia got involved. With Ukraine there own president in 2014 asked Russia for military assistance. TL;DR Russia isn't the argessor you think they are.
The "we run the world" egoism of many, MANY Americans is their biggest weakness, by far. The opinions of the interviewee in question is just that kind of stupid. ^^ Love from Slovenia
they didn't fail they succeeded in hiding this from the american people...MSM fake news and big tech need to be held accountable...thank god for musk, trump, desantis, gabbard etc
It leaves out a few details, such as UA oligarch Kolomoyskyi's influence in creating the Azov Battalion, funding the Maidan revolution and funding Zelensky's election. But overall a good primer on the issues that created this whole mess.
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord the azov battalion's last stand in mariupol...was more a political fight within the kiev illegitmate govt than fighting the russian the azov battalion's hardcore neo-nazis were deemed too extreme to represent the heros of ukraine...so moves were undertaken to rally azov in mariupol and let them be cut off and destroyed this is why the azov leadership threatened to kill zelensky...hollow threats considering they were about to fall into the tender mercies of the chechens...after 8 years of commiting genocide in donbas against ethnic russians
What scares me most is that the fate of humanity is in the hands of two senior citizens, one with clear signs of dementia and the other who looks like a wax figurine who can barely hold himself while sitting. These are the 2 most powerful political figures and I wouldn't trust them with an Amazon order, let alone a whole country.
Not really, to launch nukes both in the case of Russia and the US they need the aproval of senior political and military leaders. Its not all in the hands of one man.
@@stashtrey1 To blow up the world? I doubt that very much. People who go woke do it out of selfishness and for their own benefit, if demented old man Biden wanted to nuke Russia because he confused it with Syria i don't think they would just go along with it.
Ok, overall, a pretty good summary of what happened. Also, the pro US Zalenzky gov passed laws to prevent Russians in Ukraine from practising and retaining their Russian customs and culture.
@@OneTwo023The USA promised to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, but demanded that the USSR keep that part of the agreement secret,. The USSR did so, and the USA quietly removed the Jupiters.
Listening to someone talk and actully listening and not just hearing words is an extremely beautiful quality to have. Joe gets this and always listens to his guests and lets them speak. He does a great job doing what he does.
Up until the George Soros funded revolution.... That really needed some pushback - initial NATO points are fine but that's far too lazy a dog whistle to throw out there - back it up and explain the point in full if it's valid, t'otherwise is just buzzwords to get you in the telly....
@@bloodinmyveins6202 CNN is more accurate than this. Because CNN is a MSM channel does not mean it's false. Because Rogan is a RUclipsr does not mean he and his guests are right. Contrarianism is just as stupid as conformism. You wanna know the truth about the war and Russia in general? Talk to an average Finn, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Pole or Romanian. Or to a Georgian or a Moldovan, only be careful: 20% of Georgia and Moldova have been occupied by Russia for decades, gotta be mindful which parts you visit. Or any Beralusian forced to leave their country in 2020, thanks to Lukashenko and his ability to count on Putin to suppress any pro-western uprisings. Talk to anyone leaving next to Russia. The closer you are to Russian borders the more truth you'll discover
Why do you say that? I don't think he was shocked in the way of being surprised about what he saw. But it is really startling to see how relevant and true a seemingly non significant slightly comical bit suddenly became in today's reality.
It’s crazy how much misinformation we are fed on a daily basis by our rich and empowered officials. It’s absolutely nuts and I always said since the beginning “why would they accept missles that close to them?” It made no sense. But hey, what do I know? Great interview.
We staged the coup in Ukraine the US according to Victoria nuland who was caught on a hot mic saying it cost $200 million to stage the coup in Ukraine and it wasn't going to happen the way the EU thought it was
Turns out they have been able to hit anywhere on earth with those missiles since the 80s. Nuclear Armageddon is gonna happen once those nukes start flying regardless of how close the first missile launched is. So they've decimated their already old population distribution even more for a moot point. But hey, what do I know?
missiles close to them? my guy this aint ww2 anymore what are you waffling about NATO doesn't want missiles but eastern europe does want protection against their schizo neighbour. Funny how you didn't talk about them, you know the subject matter, the actual people living in sovereign countries who have been terrorized for all of recent history by one country. One country which doesn't get to decide what eastern european countries do. But sure, believe this guy who is straight up lying about simple historical documents which are not disputed in any respected forum.
Idk, I find it pretty fucking strange that people are so ready to suck Zelensky’s chode when he’s received about $60 billion of their taxpayer dollars in military support and only 30% of it can be accounted for, meanwhile his people are dying in the streets while he’s posing for VOGUE MAGAZINE.
When i was 20 or so i wrote a paper for my psychology class giving the causes and a solution for the war we had in 2002. Basically my solution was listening to the enemy and understand the "why" as in exactly what he is saying at 2:33. I had 0/100 and was told that what i wrote was extremism. When i understood the teacher had something against me personally afterward, I quit that class mid term failing it with the lowest grade i ever had in my life.
Yes, reasoning with people using your words and diplomacy are extremism these days, the current party in power is only interested in their military industrial complex.
Yea the answer in these colleges is to silence those that do not agree with you not understand them or come to terms with them. The individual will never survive in a world like this. It’s all about the group.
COLD WAR NEVER ENDED. It only changed names. Kudos to Dave Smith for disclosing the real facts which actually led to Ukraine war and strange nobody is talking about these. We as People have short term memory.We think what we are told to be. I really appreciate the courage of this man.
@Baronarx V I disagree. Not that I claim to know exactly what is happening but I think it’s much more complicated than that. These globalists built up china on purpose. Kissinger himself is still alive and kicking and apart of this crowd. Their policies and practices keep china strong and growing (as much as the mongoloids can). As far as Russia goes, well I’ve not got facts as above with the mongoloids. No, just theories. We know they would like to depopulate the earth…we know they’ve got bunkers galore…maybe this is why they push a literal KGB turned president, proud Russian, with strong Christian roots (not as the west knows it. More Old Testament than new). They push him not only in a military sense, but a with a threat of debauchery taking over the world, a literal Sodom and Gomorrah that the west is becoming under their rule… Crazy conspiracy theory? Maybe. Completely unfounded and based upon schizophrenic ramblings? Most definitely not.
I've looked all over trying to find where it is that NATO promised never to expand and all I can find are articles specifically stating the opposite; that there was no non-expansion agreement. Even quotes from Gorbachev and the diplomats who drew up the papers for the reunification of Germany flat out dispute that claim. Russia, on the other hand, did sign several treaties and agreements to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine. This whole "Russia was provoked" argument is just not what some think it is.
@@osubeaver9976 Nothing is what it seems more often than not. That said, no one on either side disputes the claim that nato promised not to expand east. So why is it that you e come to your conclusion after some simple googling?
Seems like this guy’s answer is more one-worded. “America”. As if the Ukrainian people didn’t make the choice themselves to side with westernisation (pro hint: they did).
@@fedarch It’s wrong to call it westernization. It’s democracy and human rights against autocracies and dictatorships. The western countries are a huge mix of cultures, politics, finance markets and even conflicts between them. What is share in the west is democracy. The knowledge that politicians need replacement and not necessarily to ensure we get the best, but to avoid the worse to keep damaging their citizens like Putin has been doing all this time.
Dave very clearly connects the dots between the Ukraine, the Obama administration, the Trump administration and the Biden administration. I knew all this information already, but I never heard it explained in such a clear chronological order that gives the whole conflict a full layer of depth
All your official news has long looked like a show of hypocrisy and propaganda. I first saw it in 2014 when I was abroad. It seemed that the world collapsed, and it was just your stupid channels covering the coup in Ukraine. Then I returned home and calmly analyzed the situation. Then my friends went to take their relatives out of the Donbass, and someone stayed there to fight for another two years. For us, this war began in 2014. Greetings from Russia!
@@mtlgrrrr Probably because it had dramtically slowed down and was mostly a fight between Ukraine and the Separatists, Russia only was directly involved to take Crimea but even then they denied involvement. Which is hilarious
This Dave Smith dude is just repeating Russian propaganda. This NATO provocation take has been repeated since the 1990s. Nothing new. Maybe some truth to how it motivates Russia but I am quite sure that those who live in the Baltic states would have a different opinion.
You know, I came from a military family and was in the military, I had lots of high-ranking and officers in my family, all of them agree that you should never tell the enemy your plans!!!!
@@TheWersum you mean like Russia did in Pakistan in the 30's abd then to their own people like Mao Zedong , killing most of their population ? ...Damn that's crazy , that all the problems in the world are not caused by America buts is a 50/50 between the east and the west
He didn’t said anything that isn’t obvious for everybody that follows politics. Putin and the rest of the eastern leaders are talking about it all the time. Because USA is doing that with a lot of countries
@@o_oel thing is, most of people dont follow politics. And politics in the west want It to keep It that way. So yeah, It is amazing how this guy was spilling that much truth in there.
Hi! A Croatian here. I remember the impact that Soros backed NGOs had in this region in 90ties and early 2000. I was completely blinded by the sweet talk of freedom, democracy, equality... Looking back i can see i understood little and i was falling into a propaganda trap. It was all aimed for us to lose our sovereignty. And they have succeesed sadly.
There is a great documentary on the breakup of jugoslavia who focuses on the parts that are not told in the mainstream history.. The weight of chains on youtube
The amount of stuff I hear about what former Yugoslavia used to be by western people boggles me. Complete arrogant innacuracy. They almost feel affronted when I tell them it's bs & I was born & lived there to prove it. Then apparently I was brainwashed lol.
@@cynicalahole7131 Weight of chains also tells a story from a perticulair side. Alot of BS in those docs, and im saying this as a guy who lived through that war... However its still more precise than many of the mainstream narratives.
Serb here. Same situation here. They just had us neighbours kill each other for nothing. Now we are all just a bunch of small corrupt and heavily indebted countries and our youth is leaving. No one really won the war.
its no longer valid udm ahh because the west broke the agreement not to expand nato first and the ukraine is no longer a neutral state as it was before the coup
@@adamworth22 I mean, that's basically what the CIA is... A whole government branch of them. Look up Phoenix Program. Live eels. Dogs. Rubber hoses. Electrical shocks. Gang rape. American tax dollars at work.
Agreed. We never know what goes on behind the closed doors of these politicians. Putin and zelensky (however you spell his name) could have planned this whole situation ahead of time
I moved from Idaho to northern ND (grew up here) about 1 yer ago. There has been constant military movement of our nuclear missiles. It is so frequent now, that nobody even bothers talking about it anymore.
@@BlahBlah-em2ed Sorry, that's the Department of Energy's job, them and their nuclear arsenal paramilitary watchdog groups which have little to no oversight whatsoever. Don't believe me? Take a deep dive into the tomfoolery issued forth by the DOE and their black budget.
You are being mislead on this subject too. Ukraine never had control over soviet nuclear weapons, it was just stationed on Ukraine territory. Even if they were to keep it, they couldn't use it without launch codes and such stuff.
No reason Iran and North Korea shouldn't have nukes. Main argument is "they might use them" and we'll the Yanks already did, and we still let them keep theirs.
You can't say Nato has expanded East right onto Rissia's doorstep and then turn around and say Putin is wrong for fighting against that. How does that make any sense?
Because we have to continue to defend our position. And saying that you agree with Putin decision to invade Ukraine is a step too far for most viewers. But the reality is Putin had no real option but to invade and the US and NATO made sure of this by refusing to negotiate.
@@justinworley5075 Simple logic for sure. The reality is however that it's not really that simple. By that simple logic it should be okay for Russia to have military assets based in Canada.
@@Mike-id7bh if the US was a terrible partner for Canada and Russia was better, then yes it would be perfectly sensible for Canada to partner with Russia. This doesn't justify the US invading Canada Stop being dumb. An agreement between two sovereign nations that doesn't directly impact a 3rd nation occurs, it doesn't justify the 3rd to invade either party. Could they bolster their defenses? Sure. But invasion of another nation is never justified outside of that nation directly attacking the invader first. Maybe the Russians should've been good partners for their neighbors and not spend centuries across numerous governments doing nothing but harming them and their people. Maybe then most of the eastern bloc wouldn't hate Russia 🤷 Stop with this dumbass gotcha
Two months before the 'invasion' Zelenski offered to place NATO missiles in the Ukraine in exchange for NATO membership. Anybody remember the Cuban missile crisis?
@@microbus432they were already assembling in Donbas and at the border since months, Russia had already occupied Crimea and moved nuclear ballistic missiles in both Crimea and Kaliningrad. Are you really that naive to think that was the reason for invading (after they already invaded)?
@@valeriocampolo6279 2014 onwards Zelensky's troops were shelling donbass with NATO 155mm shells. Putin has been asking the US to hold talks against escalation since 2008! I'm not saying they are innocent, far from it. Start reading history but don't use google based search engines! You will not be showed the full picture.
"There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns--- the ones we don't know we don't know." Donald Rumsfeld
@@vasvas8914 started by the separatist coz Ukraine banned their language. Saying if you speak or even think in russian then go back to Russia, ignoring the fact that donbas is their ancestral land. Humor me for a second, what do you think would happen if canada banned French. Would the Quebec people not rise up. Or if Spain banned the Catalan language. Yes the answer would be separatist would rise up wanting secession.
America is a constitutionally limited republic. It is not, and never has been a domocracy. A form of government abhored by the founders which they correctly considered "mob rule".
Sadly there are too many humans who have the power to do horrible things without facing any real consequences. And that clouds their judgement and makes them risk way too much in the name of "the greater good".
@Tommy Snurkerburger also the point is the usa is a bunch of liars and war mongers who never adhere to our promises. After we brought freedom to saudi arabia its gone south from where it was. We really have only ever did more harm then good. Except for ww2 and before.
@Tommy Snurkerburger Putin has NEVER been predatory though. Ukraine has been free and civilized just like the rest of Eastern Europe for the past 30 years. What you're saying barely makes sense in this context.
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I wasn’t concerned about nuclear war until Biden said we do not need to be concerned about nuclear war.
Copy/Paste MAGA comment
? Biden is a tool? Trump is a tool??? Grow a brain 🧠
Dumb logic maga bot
If a schizophrenic says 2+2=4 they're not wrong because their experience isn't based in reality
to @@sthubbins4038 any critique of biden means you’re a maga 😂 what a clown
My dad told me one thing about politics that has stuck with me. Don’t be worried when left and right are fighting like cats and dogs. Really worry when both sides agree
You can't relate it to a world war man, absolutely no sense
So what do both sides agree on now?
@@antonolufayo7804 Well, it's been clear they're trying to prolong the Ukraine war as long as possible until the war itself becomes an existential threat to the stability of Russia. That's all of the left-wing of the Western countries and most of the right-wing... although for a lot of people it's just unwitting. Most people fall for propaganda immediately; their thinking doesn't go further than putting a Ukraine flag in their Twitter bio.
And the easiest way in my mind to think of Putin is to relate him to Trump's big narrative, in this case: "Make Russia Great Again", except he's a lot shrewder. He certainly isn't going to stand for Russia crumbling.
@@brunorct3022 this is not a world war this is a USA using Ukrainian military to fight Russia
Nice. I'm surprised others can't see the relevance.
the fact that American television just laughs at war is terrifying.
Colbert fans are not representative of America thank God. At least large portions of the USA see Colbert as the deep state puppet he is
War is the life force of America. It’s how we became one of the big kids on the block.
@@rosebuddelicious8491 no it's not, It's the dollar and the military industrial complex but suit yourself ignorant fu..
I haven't seen anyone laughing. But you can't allow a country to use nuclear blackmail.
Military industrial complex owns everything in the USA.
The worst of all is people is "getting informed" watching Comedy Central
I don't agree. E.g. with leaders like Osama bin Laden and Putin, dictators pretend to stand up for human rights and for freedom and things like that, but basically they are lies and they only want those around their regime to submit to their needs and they do so in the shadow of the lie.
What’s even more hilarious is people who watch this thinking they are informed, lol.
Yeah, really speaks to the validity of MSM. I'm sure you are so well informed you know that though.
The logic in the video (that the Russians who chose to end people's lives aren't the ones at fault) is the same logic that says people in prison aren't guilty because their environment shaped them that way.
@@wkrp01he never said Russia isn't to blame a couple of times in the video. He just said it's important to know the overall context and that it wasn't completely unprovoked.
"The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous."
George Orwell
Julian Assange said the same thing. The war needs to be constant to wash away taxpayers money to pay the War Machine, that pays the politicians.
So true. But only modern war. In the past leaders indeed wanted to win and end a war
War pays
That was mark twain
@@neoneherefrom5836
Two people can say the same thing....... Orwell is his source on this though
if you're saying Putin is getting humiliated by Ukraine then we definitely got humiliated by Afghanistan. We couldn't get the job done in 20 years fighting guys in sandals and then left them billions in weapons while we left....
Russia, the US and Britain all have a LONG history of failure in Afghanistan. Not a good choice of comparison.
@@LeadLeftLeon come back to earth some time, bud.
@@Avogadros_number Dude Russia has taken over 4 regions since the war started and controlled 15% until a week ago . What he said is not far from the truth ...
@@LeadLeftLeon come and take a look
@@YuriiKhmelovskyi any weblinks to view the truth?. Our feed is nothing but lies from UK news
If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree.
- Michael Crichton
I know that man has dominated man to his own harm (Ecclesiastes 8:9). That's all I need to know.
That’s a great quote. History is so interesting
BARS!! ‼️
Said someone successfully indoctrinated in beLIEving HIS-STORY is real
Unless its a leaf from a flowering plant? Then its a pointless quote and the history written . We all know how much is missing from his-story…
We wouldn't let Russia in Cuba, why would Russia allow NATO into Ukraine...?
A Russian nuclear submarine task force birthed in Cuba.A month or so ago
Yeah and Cuba has been blocked for more that 60 years by the US and illegaly ocupied with a US militar base in Guantanamo xd@@JB-pt7sr
@@JB-pt7sr??? NATO in Ukraine means missiles , military bases , not just a small fleet of warships.
Russia doesn't have all that in Cuba , it was just a set of ships . NATO has been active in Ukraine since 2014 . Russia tolerated a lot of their bs
@Emperor_Bly Well thanks for your reply I did not intend to insinuate that a small contingent of Russian ships in Cuba poses any threat to the U.S. I was replying to the remark that Russia was not in Cuba. Russians have been in Cuba since the 1950's
Also sir Russia placed I.C.B.M. rockets in Cuba nuclear missiles pointed right at U.S. cities. And it made us nervous A.F. so I can understand and sympathize with you about nato being on your doorstep
On 9/11 I was in high school and a classmate asked the teacher why we had been attacked. Her answer was "Because those people hate our freedom and way of life." Even as a freshman, I knew those were the words of a stupid person.
you wrong, the reason why the 09/11 was happened because of US propaganda.its not bcoz of torroris attacked
“The Project for the New American Century”.
Many teachers are nothing more than trained monkeys.
Always money, control, and hiding corruption.
I was 32 and I bought it hook line and sinker. But the more I researched it the shadier it got.
Ive been saying this since day 1. The smaller channels get demonetized for telling the truth. Respect to Joe Rogan for putting this out
Mm
The sheer amount of propaganda aimed at Ukraine coming DIRECTLY from the Kremlin was insanity. This dude, Dave Smith, didn't mention Russia's insane attempts at taking over the culture of Ukraine nor did he mention the OVERWHELMING vote of the Ukrainian people in 1991 to separate from Russia. What a fool!
CORRECTAMUNDO 😎
#GHOSTIN
Its bullshit btw, you should know that now.
As Americans, we've allowed our government to become too big, too strong and too corrupt. It's hard for me as a 24 year Army veteran to sit back and watch our country's power and influence disrupt / create conflicts often to distract us from horrific actions conducted behind the scenes of our elected leaders! I'm terrified of the world we're leaving for our children and grandchildren...
hahahahaha veterans are pretty dumb yea.
The problem is dumb people voting other dumb people into power. The fact that Herschel Walker - who can't formulate a single sensible thought - almost got 50% of the votes says enough. You all need to take some serious lessons in critical thinking.
@@gekalskip considering Fetterman and Biden were "elected" I'd say your point is lacking .
I'm not trying to be a dick here. I have utmost respect my man. I'm British, my point I guess, is historically if our two countries along with other allies hadn't meddled/influenced and engage in proxy wars along with other forms of warfare. The world would look very different. It's not perfect, it's far from it. But better the devil you know. If the UK hadn't meddled in Hitler's great plan in 1939 along with France and 8 British colonies and former colonies and declared war to fight against a tyrannical state, the world would have a very different power dynamic that I'm not sure would be a lot of fun to live in. When Churchill visited your congress in 1942, had the United States decided not to meddle or continue to sit neutral like so many did then let's be honest mate we wouldn't be in a position to be sharing our opinions over a Joe Rogan podcast on the interwebs. Anyway, I appreciate your service, you should hold your head up high, I think it could be so much worse.
@@simonc9874 look before that. all those wars are started by tearing down the royal families and creating a central bank. Most of these wars after ww1 are there to give the power to the central banking systems to put country's into debt. This debt gives these Central banking systems the power and laws they want to control the world. the new world order - ruclips.net/video/xguam0TKMw8/видео.html
it is super important that everyone in the world understand this
Understands ruzzian lies?
@@oleksii_klochko Yeah you keep thinking that
@@oleksii_klochkoThe US is the agressor.
@@incitatus953 nope, it's ruzzia who is bombing Ukraine, not US.
I like how Joe lets his guests speak and waits for them to finish. He is the best out there.
Learning to not interrupt is the best conversational trick I know. You can improve your conversations overnight just by listening completely and not compulsively interjecting.
Tim Pool could learn from this comment
Yeah, I love how Aaron Rodgers did a really great interview recently, he said nothing and just let Joe talk.
Shawn Ryan show gents. Epic. Involved. Informational. Give it a view/listen.
The guy is a comedian. Probably not the best source of information in global politics
As an Eastern European I can say that people who learned history know the conflict between Russia and Ukraine has many reasons underneath and started AT LEAST a decade ago.
Reason #1. Putin's ego.
@@tomrick9462 True. But not only HIS ego. Russia is an empire since 12 centuries. They have always been an empire, even when they were labeled “communists”. The ideology is tightly related with feodalism and nationalism.
@@_VR_8 Hopefully Putin will soon experience his Ceaucescu moment.
@@tomrick9462Fuck, they are told by a person who really knows what he is talking about. The answer is Putin's ego, brilliant stupidity.
People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine. Without People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine.
@@tomrick9462 cope nazi
It cheers me up to see that some American people still have a sane mind.
This guy is an idiot and he knows nothing about Vladimir Putin's behavioural patterns. If any peace deals were to take place, Russia would invade a couple years later - after demilitarising Ukraine - making the occupation that much easier. This was never a war for Donbas, and if you still think it was then you're misinformed.
Americans miss the urgency of this kind of stand that Ukraine is making against their invaders. This interview is months old, so I'm going to give the clown in the video the benefit of the doubt, but we've learned just how irrational Putin is since the war broke out. The fact that Russia has so clearly attempted to genocide the Ukrainian peoples and we still have people like this calling for "peace" makes me lose hope.
Imagine if the tables were turned. Imagine Russia was trying to take a part of the US. You wouldn't be so quick to call for peace now, would you?
If you don't involve yourself in Eastern European politics and you don't have an active interest in this situation, its best you just be quiet and abstain from sharing your opinion.
@@notrobert8284 Let me guess: you're polish, aren't you?
There's alot of Americans standing up for the world's frewdoms at the moment
@@eransasson20 I am indeed, with Russo-Ukrainian roots on both sides of the family.
Are Polish citizens worried about a Russian invasion?
This is the first time I questioned this proxy war. I respect Dave Smith for the balls
I appreciate that Joe let’s his guests speak without major interruption
Its all good , unless guests are talking bulshit.... But Joe knows nothing anyways( and is stone half the time) so hard to interrupt...
Has nothing to say tbf
Not like that dan bongino douche
Really? he's been doing this for years and on so many different subjects and guest's this is the only thing you could come up with to comment?! Seriously, that he let's them talk?! Fml.
That's because he's always trying to catch up
No institution in America has America’s best interests at heart. Most Americans have NEVER heard this. The schools do not teach it, the government doesn’t discuss it (publicly anyway…) and the media doesn’t report it. So glad this is being shared. We are doomed unless we wake up.
Why would the schools teach us not to trust institutions lmfao
There's plenty of Americans that have heard this. We're not living in the 1950s, people have internet and segments like this to point to.
Never going to happen. Atleast until a good portion of the baby boomers are dead and in the dirt. They're the very generation with authority and influence over literally everything you just said. They refuse to retire, they refuse to just take their money and fade into irrelevancy. They've lost 2 wars and caused multiple financial crises. I'm not saying a country should be ran by 20 or even 30 year olds. But it should be ran by people who will be subjected to their decisions in the following decades.
These old dinosaurs will be the death of us all. Nearly all of the world leaders are in/around their 70's. You need to be 35 to be president and I think thats fair but after 65 you need to be O.U.T.
@@kzero1499 Yet so many are still blind to the facts
@@CASTRO45ACP They are willfully ignorant. The only thing that can change their mind now is God's punishment, just like in the Old Testament. People back in the Old Testament could only understand God's punishments and miracles that were done to teach the people only by having God do that directly and obviously. All you can do is to pray for God to have mercy on your neighbours who are neck deep in these lies and do not know the truth.
The problem with this entire situation is that it’s damn near impossible to talk about all of the nuance without being accused of sympathizing with Putin, there’s a lot going on here with this whole thing that must be discussed. We’re being dragged into a potential war on a table of lies
This.
I didn't know the ghost of Neville Chamberlain had a RUclips account.
thats by design. They know exactly what they are doing.
Exactly. 👍
The people who brought you so many lies to get into wars all over the Middle East are now expecting you to belive more lies and garbage that could end all life on earth.
It's an unprovoked war. Russia must be stopped. I don't see the alternative. If Russia won't negotiate, they need to lose. Otherwise, you have another WWII Germany, just steamrolling through Europe. This is important, more important than people's pet theories on the military industrial complex. Sometimes the military is necessary, and this is a true defensive mission, a battle for the sovereignty of Eastern Europe as a whole.
This guy is spot on!!!
that Colbert Report clip of the fed talking openly about intervening in Ukraine's internal politics to start pulling them away from Russia and laughing about the possibility of war is absolutely disgusting. Note that clip has since been taken down from RUclips.
Putin's trouble started when he refused to endorse gay marriage and make it a law ,
he won't back the sick perverted gay and insane transgender agenda, that's why Putin is hated worldwide the New World Order it's pushing a vile sick luciferian agenda Putin goes to church and he won't play the game that's why they want to eliminate him.Putin has been anti-gay and anti-trans from the beginning of his presidency he's going against the New World Order agenda and that's why they're coming down on him like a ton of bricks.
, that are trying to pull Ukraine away from Russia and Russian influence.
Ukraine will be a leading proponent of the gay agenda in Europe when war is all said and done , watch and see !
Tell us more.
That's why they "You know who" conducted a coupe in Ukraine I 2014
@user-bi3vi2wx8x2no he got a comfy show now just like Kimmel
Lmao 🤣 I have friends in Ukraine 🇺🇦 on the frontline I know what’s going on personally
Brilliant, JR is the best, he listens, doesn't interrupt and simply prompts his guest. Smart man.
he should have interrupted him and told him all of that he was saying is bs though.
1. Russia had a signed pact with Ukraine to never attack them so they gave up their nuclear arsenal to Russia. Putin also told everyone right before the invasion, that they will not invade Ukraine. So therefore any deal with Putin and Russia is worthless as they will break it. Russia will never leave Ukraine (if not forced). Every eastern country knows that. Russia cannot be threatened by NATO anyway (its a defense pact). How can you threaten a nuclear superpower? Putin only doesn't like NATO because then he could not simply attack a country without activating NATO. As long as you not invade a NATO country there will be no issues.
2. There is no signed contract that NATO will never expand east.
3. To the argument that we need to listen to Putin why he hates the west and why he is attacking Ukraine: here are a couple of fake and random reasons from Putin:
- Ukraine is committing genocide against ethnic Russians
- Ukraine isn't a real country
- De-nazify Ukraine
- NATO expansion
- Ukraine may be using Nuclear weapons in the future
4. The referendum from 2014 was fake and everybody knows that. There was also a referendum about the annexed parts of Ukraine. everybody could witness live how they lied, threatened people and faked the whole thing.
The real reason is to expand Russia and gain more power
Imagine his next Guest is being Andrew Tate!
Does interrupt....not a smart man
@@P4nopticon not nearly as bad as some. There's a fine line you walk I think it does a pretty good job of it but there are so many who are just bloody freaking awful at it.
Well sometimes you have to. Russia threats to nuke if someone fights back. So what do you want to do then? They will take Ukraine, Estland, Finnland and so on.
A life in fear is not a wearthy life to live.
As long as The Big Guy gets his 10%, all is ok.
do you mean Joe?
And the genus crack addict Hunter.... Joe said he was the "smartest" guy he knows. LOL
It’s getting really old and lame buddy.. That comment just makes you look pathetic and I don’t even like Biden.
@@mastersamurai7683 You haven't seen the emails/texts from Hunter's laptop?
The sniff guy
About russian language in Ukrain:1) in 2003 in Donbass, only 4% of students were taught in Ukrainian, and 96% in Russian.
2) In 2017, Zelensky hired a tutor to speak Ukrainian better.
Interesting fact, russians were never ethnical population in Donbass and any other Ukrainian region. In Donbass villages people speak Ukrainian, in cities russian because in times on empire and then in soviet times russia spread russification politics to destroy Ukrainian identity. They were doing absolutely the same in Baltic countries and Kazakhstan. After 2004 russia was continuing to spread its ideology in Ukrainian regions such as Donbass, Kharkiv (which was historically always Ukrainian and more intelligent so their propaganda didn't work here) and in South of Ukraine, because this was a part of their geopolitical points, to control the Black sea. So russian language was never mother language in any of Ukrainian region.
Exactly his first language is Russian and he still struggles to speak Ukrainian but expects everybody else in the country to speak it fluently🤦♀️
@@beshketx lmao google ukrainization and Korenizatsiia retard
Yea yeah rus propaganda going strong
@@tarkm-u6m yea yeah everything i dont like is rus propaganda
People in 1960, “we’ll have flying cars and cures for cancer” people in 2022, “ let’s just go back to the stone age “
Now y'all know what Russia-gate was all about. Getting you ready for the big hate-fest when the war starts.
Hope y'all are supporting the current thing!!
Joe Biden whilst campaigning in 2019: If I’m elected president, I’m going to cure cancer.
"Men can get pregnant."
"I can't tell you what a woman is."
People in 2022: MeN cAn GeT pReGnAnT
War is part of human civilisation
A future without war would never happen because it's part of human nature. It's just wishful thinking.
One thing I was told growing up in America as a man was be ready to go to war. My grandfather got drafted for ww2..my father got it for Vietnam. I got lucky I didn't...I pray the same for the young men in our country...war is hell!
How would you know if war is hell? You haven't been
He had a dad and granddad to tell him I guess?
@@NoName-hs4ov is this a legitimate question? Or are you just bored and want a reason to start drama? I dont logically think war would be anything less than hell incarnate.doesnt matter wether youve been in war or not,the notion of war is to kill other men over different beliefs and nowadays the weapons we use will inhumanly tear you apart and leave you a bloody husk.imagine seeing your comrades youve bonded with blown to pieces in front of you.war is hell plain and simple.it sure isnt heavenly thats for sure.
@@NoName-hs4ov really? You think his dad an grandfather didn't tell him that?
@@dabh4204 So he knows because daddy told him?? Please
"Your empire's hands look a lot cleaner when you get to decide when history starts, and what parts of it don't count."
- James S.A. Corey, Persepolis Rising
"Putin started it in Feb. '22."
(Never mind Victoria Nuland's coup in 2014.)
You Americans live only by the fake fear imagine the suffering you have impose on other Nations.
I am from Poland and don't worry about nuklear onec they do it is all over no fear no worries.
The worst is the media terror and stupid people are more harmful and
degerous really again fighting for years why, for what, for who?!!!
Americans will fight with Russia to the last Polish man watch out people. We had onec freedom from Germany by Americans pictures and vidios made in Auschwitz the leave under USSR.
But this war was finnance from New York and Prescot Bush grandfather Gorge Bush yeah what an epic family happy Americans.
Both sides are dangerous not to play with sneaky and well maintain by Banking Cartel prabobly in Swizerland FED i their IMF and BIS.
Just look at how many massacres Israel has caused in Palestine and if you were born today… you wouldnt even know the way that everyone has forgotten and allows it to still happen unchecked
"Japan instigated a completely unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor." (Never mind the oil embargoes, rejecting Ambassador Nomura's countless pleas for peace, or the US fleet preparing to retake Southeast Asia). Even though Japan was a transgressor, Americans swallow up the most facile and convenient simplifications.
@@rogbrogb5341 the correct Ukrainian presedent is elected so you can repeat your ideotic propaganda as much as you want, zelenskis win was even an opset😂😂😂😂
"Who was your source?"
" This guy on JRE, Dave Smith. A comedian."
Lol
So you mean Zelensky a comedian is untrustworthy too😂😅. You hypocrites never cease to amaze us.
@@MrNatsuka you mean President Zelensky? The brave leader of Ukraine who stood up against the tyranny of your boss Vladimir Putin? The one who was offered to leave Ukraine but instead decided to stay in Ukraine and lead the Ukrainian troops and fight the invasion? Yeah I trust somebody like that 100%.
There are plenty of sources for what Dave said. Unfortunately, you have to look up independent journalists since our paid for media doesn't report actual news.
@@MK384What do you disagree with specifically? You’re committing an ad hominem
@@MK384 brave leader? He is hiding under his bunker. He allowed his people to be killed just for his selfish motives and to appease his warmonger masters in the US and EU!
I’m actually stunned this is being allowed
On RUclips 😂
If you look up "Dave Smith Ukraine" his channel doesn't even come up. RUclips doesn't want people to see what he has to say, but silencing Joe Rogan would be too overt.
I found immediately as soon as I put in search. Keep believing it some kind of secret information…. It what satan wants you to believe. Be fooled and deceived….it is your choice!!!!
@@satanicmuffin9309 but why are you so interested in what Joe Rogan says? He does know at least something about Ukrain or russia ? In the video, two guys not involved in the topic at all, just are sitting and telling bullshit.
Plenty of excellent journalism has been censored, deleted by RUclips, so yeah, it's amazing this is still up. For how long is another question.
@@MrRuslanZh "Telling bullshit"? Ukrainian propaganda needs better English.
As a European sometimes I feel really sad when I hear American 'experts' talk about the geopolitics with such confidence and yet so little actual understanding of the situation.
I'm pretty sure Dave Smith is just a comedian. But your point is well taken. Most Americans do present themselves as experts even if they're just hearing about something today.
Our experts on geopolitics are just defense lobbyists trying to make money off this
@@criticalmoment3859 this is RUclips anyone can make a channel
@@criticalmoment3859 Anyone who comes to Joe Rogan expecting a super-critical, thoroughly researched discussion of anything is the kind of person who wouldn't understand it even if it was presented to them with diagrams.
See what I mean?
As a* European.
This is the problem with the American education system and the American media in general. They are both not interested in teaching their students and viewers how to think, instead they are focused on teaching them what to think.
Yeah, but if they teach the "how to" then most people would spot their corruption. Luckily for the govt, a lot of people could not see the truth... even the Left was supporting Neo-Nazis & Chanting Azov, Azov like an idiot they are. The LEFT has become a warmonger through over the years of inability to discern truth, falsehood & deception.
That's only a problem from the perspective of the ordinary citizen. It isn't at all a problem for those in power. In fact, it's by their design.
Vladimir is super concerned with teaching people how to think. That's why eastern europe loves him so much. They all want to vote referendums by gunpoint.
@@criticalmoment3859 be honest with us, your a bot right?
100%!
So enlightening. Great job, Dave Smith 👍🏻
“Listen to your enemies” is one of the most sound pieces of advice anyone could heed to.
That line caught my attention also.. incredible
Or better yet stop demonizing white Christian European Russia. Who would relentlessly do such a thing in their media? hmmmmmmm.
Putin just said in his speech the Soviet Union is over and they are not going back to that, but western media still pumping the Cold War rhetoric. USSR started in 1920, when America still had decades more racial segregation to go. Also, you can blame the UK elites for Trotsky, Marx and the subsequent slaughters.
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing is also sound advice. So is don't watch MSM or late night tripe.
Sun Tzu 101
And your enemy spoke by bombarding schools and hospitals killing innocent people including children.
Doesn’t mean you need to accept anything they say though. You can listen to them and decide they’re talking bollocks.
When I was a teenager, and we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I was completely against it. So were all my friends who I agreed with on almost everything politically. Twenty years later, my politics have changed in almost every way, but I'm still against war and warmongering. Unfortunately, somehow, all my friends who were so against war and warmongering as teenagers now seem really hyped to project American military power. What changed?
The media messages they were consuming.
No. Your friends were against the afghan and iraq wars because America was the invader. This time russia is the invader. Your friends have morals which you don't.
@@uv77mc85 i'm sure there's more to it than meets the eye. As has been shown by history...
Your friends grew up.
Brain washing in the media
I was vehemently against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, just like I am about the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.
One thing for sure…… the first casualty of war is always the truth
This is a quote I will definitely have to remember. Is it originally yours or did you first hear it from someone else?
@Deadpool. How much you guys get paid for this or is it some sort of meme? This is like 20th link to same video i see
@@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 can’t take credit for a quote about 2000 years old.. Ancient Greek I think
Unless you live in Russia, in which case the truth died long long long before the war
The previous Chancellor of Germany said if Ukraine joins NATO it's immediate war with Russia. In 2021 she left office. In 2022 Ukraine starts proceedings to join NATO and here we are. Also Russia wanted Ukraine's offshore oil rigs primary reason they took Crimea in 2015. Putin wants Ukraine's oil and doesn't want weapons there pointing at Russia. He panicked when his puppet fled the country.
Nice video. And good range of products explained 👍🏻
"When all else fails, they take us to war" - Gerald Celente
Love Gerald!
Gerald is the real deal.
I remember the good ole days of Art Bell when Gerald Celente was a frequent guest!
Completely disagree with this statement. It implies that they first try everything before going to war in order to avoid war. They never do.
The Ukranians are regretting giving up the nukes now! the idiots!
Love JR, it frustrates me though that I often have no idea whether I'm listening to an expert on a given subject, or an expert at sounding confident.
It's the latter in this video
@@roejogan2693 lol k
@@roejogan2693 Could not agree with you more. The guy is all froth, no beer.
When you're learning that will happen until you look at opposing viewpoints eventually you'll get a feel for it, depends how quickly your mind breaks free. If you're skeptical that's already a good thing.
Fox News libertarian comedian might not be someone you want to hear geopolitics from lmao.
I love JRE because Joe let's his guest finish speaking. He listens and understands. He answers with well thought out responses or questions. It's refreshing to actually hear someone finish a paragraph let alone a sentence without someone trying to one up what they have to say.
Yes, and it's mind numbingly infuriating trying to watch those late night host after long form podcasts like JRE. Like you have to lower your IQ and attention span to connect.
@@quirkypurple a❤❤
@@quirkypurple absolutely agree. it's probably why those main stream media groups ran fake news on him to try and lower the viewers he earned.
Joe is just curious, he wants to hear stuff he doesn't know about. That's why he would never interrupt anyone 😂
Yes that's good. But he doesn't rebut non facts is a problem. But still better then most Platforms!
Damn good points made in this topic
I'm genuinely surprised this is even allowed on RUclips. Praying it doesn't get taken down.
Well almost all pro-russian RUSSIAN SPEAKING RUclipsrs got removed from the platform
Besides Russian tv channels are banned in EU and USA
It's funny that that move was called "protection of free speech"
Orwell at best
It wont be taken down joe rogan makes RUclips too much money
they took down RT videos though
Bro that Colbert clip is as dark and dystopian as it gets.
The left is downright evil
Fr that was some 1984 shit
Guest: "We've overthrown a government"
Colbert: "watchu talkin bout willis"
It is a comedy show though
@@iluvmarijanne Not for a very very long time bro.
Holy cow that Colbert segment is just insane.
Anyone has link to it?
Frightening honestly
The stupidity level is staggering, it's hard for me to watch clips like that.
ha. you should watch the movie _network_ and then take a look at modern "news" channels (that includes fox - stop pretending you're not "mainstream" when you're literally THE BIGGEST news channel out there)
it’s at 06:00 for anyone reading comments only
Some really great articulations being made here. People should listen.
They say he's losing to the poorest country in Europe but yet the poorest country in Europe is receiving multibillions of dollars worth of high-tech weaponry
That still should be no match to the second most powerful army in the world, right?
Did Russia expect the world to watch it happen? Part of the planning should’ve included they would recieve billions in aid
On the tax payers dime..
Russia are in total control and always have been. Putin has trapped the USA. He is winning by a very long way.
It's really USA fighting Russia off of American tax dollars from people who don't want this
Listen to your enemies. Hear them. Understand them. It does not mean you agree or believe in them. But always hear what they want and need.
Even better, stop with the binary friend/enemy classification altogether.
Yep. And then end them.
They want to re-establish the soviet union. No thanks.
The Art of War Sun Tzu
We will never understand these rulers of communist countries. I feel a lot of it started with little bush but I honestly did like him
Even though I'm a Democrat. And it has only gotten worse
"Listen to your enemies" best advice ever
Unfortunately the rest of what he said was not as good
The truth?
it's 101, know your enemies.
Yeah, he just forgot that listen to your enemies doesnt mean believe every thing they say.
he is omitting some facts to portray a slightly twisted picture to try and justify russias point of view, when their point of view is not much more than imperial ambitions and restoring the soviet union. russia is extremely corrupt, people are living in poverty and alcohol indiced haze. russia has been at war with ukraine since 2014, and for example the voting held in donbass he mentioned was unlawful even back then
One of the best commentary on the war in ukrain
Literally the only one you can’t see anything on RUclips that tells the other side
It’s hard to remember that Colbert once had a sense of humor.
@@headsofhiphop probably blackmailed just like the rest of them
Okay, let’s go from the start. 1. The war is not on Russian border, it’s happening on the large part of Ukrainian soil. 2. Nobody told Ukraine not to negotiate. That’s a made up fact right there. All Russia wanted from the negotiations was to Ukrainian government to resign and the army to stop fighting which was unacceptable. They did not want to change their minds. 3. The only provocation on this conflict was first, the invasion of Crimea, then the Donbas region conflict that was fully made and financed by Russia. It’s nothing about NATO, Putin actually does not give a F about it. The evidence for that is Finland and Sweden joining NATO now. Russia had nothing against it. 4. The 2014 revolution was fully organised by Ukrainian people. And the West had nothing to do about it. People did not want to get closer to Russia all that Russia always wanted and was doing was to destroy Ukrainian culture. They’ve been killing us for hundreds of years and we still remember that. We wanted to join EU, something that meant a greater future for us. 5. The Poroshenko was not fully a pro west president and had nothing to do with it. Actually the majority of his business was done with Russia, but that’s a whole different story. America did not decide who and where would lead Ukraine after it. We had an honest election here. 6. Joe Biden’s son story is his own business story that had nothing to do with politics. 7. Donbas region was overtaken by Russia, then, militarised by Russia, fully financed by Russia, that had a made up referendum with no international observer during the process. Fake referendum. As the one they are doing right now again.
The ppl above him dnt allow real comedy
or maybe once you believed the hype, now you have been red pilled. Lol. Remember when Eminem had balls, when crime meant you get locked up, and when men were men and boys were boys and everyone knew what a women was! Ahh yes the good old days! LETS TAKE EM BACK!
Him and Jimmy Kimmel are fighting for their lives!
Did you see George W.'s Freudian slip when talking about Ukraine and he accidentally said "...the unjust war of Iraq"
then laughed about it
Wasn’t a slip. That was actually as bad as Russia invading ukraine
@@officialdoughbae675 C!.A started it!
@Bully peter god bless you lmao
Seems like a mistake a guy would make when being controlled by a higher authority
“Listen to your enemies” is one of the hardest bars to be spit here and y’all need to recognize that.
Thanks for the reminder stay safe
What if they lying? Don't you think about it?
@Strusprawa listen to them not believen them 😅
@@weedman8024if you’re listening to someone that could imply you’re following instructions or would
What exactly are his goals? Sure he prevented Ukraine from joining nato but Finland and Sweden joined nato after the invasion. So stupid for a dictator
Colbert giving heavy Cesar Flickerman vibes
Joe straight up forgot he had a guest while watching Colbert 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
well, its dave smith
The military industrial complex have totally orchestrated this war from before Ukraine was even a country and have been pushing to keep it going and escallating it every step of the way. The war was totally and completely provoked.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
We have taken it for granted that war has never been on our front door step.I think we may be in for one hell of a reality check.
I guess you never heard of the Cuban missile crisis
Sadly...
I hope we never do either, so blessed to have two oceans as boundaries, and also the number 1 most important amendment to the US Constitution, the one amendment that protects and paves the way for all others. Stay strong 2A supporters...
@@tinkeringone1073 lol true. Took their post more as fighting in our streets but your point is valid.
@@geico1975 In my opinion 1st amendement is the one curse thing that will cause the destruction of this country; Think about it, the most protected peoples in this world are presidents, still coup happens; and they get killed. All their security apparatus, and guns doesn't save them when a determined ennemi is out to get them, guns only provide a fake sens of security. I have witnessed civil war 1st hand it's the worse kind of warfare cause neighbors attack each other for all the places in human history there is no country where the population is well armed as the US; the people who created this law out of concern that Indian natives would claim back their lands, the same law will be that chicken that would come back to roost; why? Imagine how a war between communities would look like if it's triggered, in my opinion worse than a nuclear war. So, 1st amendement isn't à good thing.
That’s the thing that everyone doesn’t realize. The issue with Ukraine and Russia goes back years…
Sure. EVERYONE doesn't realize but you. What an arrogant and immature thing to say.
The situation goes back to Georgia, Moldova and all other coutries Russia invaded for last 30 years
As Georgian, even for me its pretty hard to go back and look at it all to understand the roots of the cause as it dates way back before even WW1 (1783 for Georgia). Short version is, our countries are subdivided into provinces similar to states in USA and they have local governments, under USSR officials were put in place to govern those provinces. As anything in soviet union they were corrupt people who decided to steal and plunder, eventually turning into local war lords. It took years to get rid of them and curb corruption as they were armed better than our own military in some cases. Why did we get rid of them? well they were abducting people both local and foreign, obstructing development and keeping people poor and uneducated. Now for all those people who think USA is the bad guy scheming in the background in every conflict, you're right USA provided intelligence to help win those internal conflicts, however what you forget is that Russia never sat doing nothing. Russian military was still present in Georgia after collapse of soviet union and they refused to leave, we were ready to accommodate them even build barracks for their men and provide food and infrastructure yet they refused to sign non-aggression treaty. In 2008 they activated their military in response to us trying to prevent acts of terror in Tskhinvali region (insurgents blowing up civilian and police infrastructure killing both policemen and civilians). Now why did they ignore other conflicts prior? (exception Apkhazia) well simple, they stopped military intervention once they got within reach of gas pipeline in Georgia supplying Turkey and EU so the answer is painfully clear. Ukraine is the same, its never about those people in Luhansk and Donbas, if it was about civilians then Russia wouldn't indiscriminately bomb civilian infrastructure, in Georgia we put our military infrastructure ways away from civilians yet they still came under fire, honestly if Russia wasn't a threat we wouldn't need to join NATO so...
no it doesn’t. There was no issue Untill 2014. Stop spreading lies
Which was all one country called the USSR 30 years ago. Russia didn't invade Moldova. They never left when the USSR fell. In Georgia not all wanted to seperate from Russia. South Ossetia had a UN endorsed military Pact with Russia as its peace keeper and that's why Russia got involved. With Ukraine there own president in 2014 asked Russia for military assistance. TL;DR Russia isn't the argessor you think they are.
I am appreciating this brilliant man. I just discovered him. Excellent.
Ukraine and Russia: has deep and complex history of conflicts. Americans: Let me explain to you why it's always about us!
Exactly. Long history. I’m reminded me of Scotland and England’s history.
The way he explained it all was so circular and self-obsessive.
oh my god yes - best comment
Here are some NPC's that still haven't noticed that America has conducted plain sight proxy wars for 40+ years Lol keep living in sheepledom.
The "we run the world" egoism of many, MANY Americans is their biggest weakness, by far.
The opinions of the interviewee in question is just that kind of stupid. ^^
Love from Slovenia
The last few minutes of this elegantly explain what the media and government have failed to do for years! Well said, sir.
13:35
they didn't fail
they succeeded in hiding this from the american people...MSM fake news and big tech need to be held accountable...thank god for musk, trump, desantis, gabbard etc
It leaves out a few details, such as UA oligarch Kolomoyskyi's influence in creating the Azov Battalion, funding the Maidan revolution and funding Zelensky's election. But overall a good primer on the issues that created this whole mess.
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord the azov battalion's last stand in mariupol...was more a political fight within the kiev illegitmate govt than fighting the russian
the azov battalion's hardcore neo-nazis were deemed too extreme to represent the heros of ukraine...so moves were undertaken to rally azov in mariupol and let them be cut off and destroyed
this is why the azov leadership threatened to kill zelensky...hollow threats considering they were about to fall into the tender mercies of the chechens...after 8 years of commiting genocide in donbas against ethnic russians
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord Georgian thugs in Odessa too, massacre and all the rest of it.
but still, you are definitely on the right track here.
What scares me most is that the fate of humanity is in the hands of two senior citizens, one with clear signs of dementia and the other who looks like a wax figurine who can barely hold himself while sitting. These are the 2 most powerful political figures and I wouldn't trust them with an Amazon order, let alone a whole country.
Not really, to launch nukes both in the case of Russia and the US they need the aproval of senior political and military leaders. Its not all in the hands of one man.
@First Last u think Obama was old? Lol
@@RafaelSantos-pi8py yeah the woke generals would never side with their woke president.
@@stashtrey1 To blow up the world? I doubt that very much. People who go woke do it out of selfishness and for their own benefit, if demented old man Biden wanted to nuke Russia because he confused it with Syria i don't think they would just go along with it.
Needs to be an age cap on leaders. 80+ in congress and 70+ in presidency. Totally unacceptable
Ok, overall, a pretty good summary of what happened. Also, the pro US Zalenzky gov passed laws to prevent Russians in Ukraine from practising and retaining their Russian customs and culture.
The Cuban Missile Crisis was Russia’s reaction to the US deploying missiles in Turkey, first.
And guess what? Missles stays in Turkey after USSR get out from Cuba
@@OneTwo023 Nope.
Kennedy withdrew the missiles per the agreement. This was not announced to the American public, who were deceived as usual.
Bruh who's Evan?
@@OneTwo023The USA promised to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, but demanded that the USSR keep that part of the agreement secret,. The USSR did so, and the USA quietly removed the Jupiters.
@@albatross8361 Empire of Evil vs Empire of Lies aka piss vs poop
Listening to someone talk and actully listening and not just hearing words is an extremely beautiful quality to have. Joe gets this and always listens to his guests and lets them speak. He does a great job doing what he does.
I AGREE. ROGAN IS SOME KIND OF GUY.
@@stevemchale6363 If by "some kind of guy" you mean a gullible idiot, then yeah, you're right...
"not just hearing words" looking at what trash they are talking, I only hear american nonsense
Up until the George Soros funded revolution.... That really needed some pushback - initial NATO points are fine but that's far too lazy a dog whistle to throw out there - back it up and explain the point in full if it's valid, t'otherwise is just buzzwords to get you in the telly....
Russia had a legit reason too invade Ukraine.
Thank God for RUclips. In the age of just TVs, this conversation would've never aired.
This conversation is nonsense and absolutely inaccurate.
@@Dominomfer lol, we are all going back to CNN for the most sensical and absolutely accurate conversation.
FYI...RUclips censured RT NEWS...Freedom of expression? Yeah right
@@bloodinmyveins6202 CNN is more accurate than this. Because CNN is a MSM channel does not mean it's false. Because Rogan is a RUclipsr does not mean he and his guests are right. Contrarianism is just as stupid as conformism. You wanna know the truth about the war and Russia in general? Talk to an average Finn, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Pole or Romanian. Or to a Georgian or a Moldovan, only be careful: 20% of Georgia and Moldova have been occupied by Russia for decades, gotta be mindful which parts you visit. Or any Beralusian forced to leave their country in 2020, thanks to Lukashenko and his ability to count on Putin to suppress any pro-western uprisings. Talk to anyone leaving next to Russia. The closer you are to Russian borders the more truth you'll discover
@@bloodinmyveins6202 propaganda is wild nowadays, everywhere but CNN especially
Outstanding content and insight
The only shocking thing in this video is Joe pretending to be shocked .
😂
True.
Pretending!!!??? That’s a stretch !
exactly
Why do you say that? I don't think he was shocked in the way of being surprised about what he saw. But it is really startling to see how relevant and true a seemingly non significant slightly comical bit suddenly became in today's reality.
It’s crazy how much misinformation we are fed on a daily basis by our rich and empowered officials. It’s absolutely nuts and I always said since the beginning “why would they accept missles that close to them?” It made no sense. But hey, what do I know? Great interview.
We staged the coup in Ukraine the US according to Victoria nuland who was caught on a hot mic saying it cost $200 million to stage the coup in Ukraine and it wasn't going to happen the way the EU thought it was
Turns out they have been able to hit anywhere on earth with those missiles since the 80s. Nuclear Armageddon is gonna happen once those nukes start flying regardless of how close the first missile launched is.
So they've decimated their already old population distribution even more for a moot point. But hey, what do I know?
Duh..what US did when they heard about cuban missile plantations ?..same actions same causes..it's called the Cold War ..welcome to politics!
The guy is a tipical moron...
missiles close to them? my guy this aint ww2 anymore what are you waffling about NATO doesn't want missiles but eastern europe does want protection against their schizo neighbour. Funny how you didn't talk about them, you know the subject matter, the actual people living in sovereign countries who have been terrorized for all of recent history by one country. One country which doesn't get to decide what eastern european countries do. But sure, believe this guy who is straight up lying about simple historical documents which are not disputed in any respected forum.
"Truth is stranger than fiction "... a quote that everyone have heard but very few know the significance of it.
Idk, I find it pretty fucking strange that people are so ready to suck Zelensky’s chode when he’s received about $60 billion of their taxpayer dollars in military support and only 30% of it can be accounted for, meanwhile his people are dying in the streets while he’s posing for VOGUE MAGAZINE.
I would change that to "Truth is _always_ stranger than fiction." in light of the last few years...
and the truth is that zelinsky is a puppet-actor
Always said this👌🏾💯
This is a great video
When i was 20 or so i wrote a paper for my psychology class giving the causes and a solution for the war we had in 2002. Basically my solution was listening to the enemy and understand the "why" as in exactly what he is saying at 2:33. I had 0/100 and was told that what i wrote was extremism. When i understood the teacher had something against me personally afterward, I quit that class mid term failing it with the lowest grade i ever had in my life.
Yes, reasoning with people using your words and diplomacy are extremism these days, the current party in power is only interested in their military industrial complex.
This happens when u have the truth keep fighting no matter what truth will set you free
That wasnt a teacher, just an activist, twisting vulnerable minds.
Good on you for standing your ground.
most real comment ive seen
Yea the answer in these colleges is to silence those that do not agree with you not understand them or come to terms with them. The individual will never survive in a world like this. It’s all about the group.
COLD WAR NEVER ENDED. It only changed names. Kudos to Dave Smith for disclosing the real facts which actually led to Ukraine war and strange nobody is talking about these. We as People have short term memory.We think what we are told to be. I really appreciate the courage of this man.
I don’t understand why America keeps pushing it. The ‘new developments’ about Nordstream is absolutely terrifying
@Baronarx V
I disagree. Not that I claim to know exactly what is happening but I think it’s
much more complicated than that.
These globalists built up china on purpose. Kissinger himself is still alive and kicking and apart of this crowd. Their policies and practices keep china strong and growing (as much as the mongoloids can).
As far as Russia goes, well I’ve not got facts as above with the mongoloids. No, just theories. We know they would like to depopulate the earth…we know they’ve got bunkers galore…maybe this is why they push a literal KGB turned president, proud Russian, with strong Christian roots (not as the west knows it. More Old Testament than new). They push him not only in a military sense, but a with a threat of debauchery taking over the world, a literal Sodom and Gomorrah that the west is becoming under their rule…
Crazy conspiracy theory? Maybe. Completely unfounded and based upon schizophrenic ramblings? Most definitely not.
@Baronarx V
My mistake.
Id say we are on the same page indeed.
Stay safe. More importantly, stay free ✌🏽
I've looked all over trying to find where it is that NATO promised never to expand and all I can find are articles specifically stating the opposite; that there was no non-expansion agreement. Even quotes from Gorbachev and the diplomats who drew up the papers for the reunification of Germany flat out dispute that claim. Russia, on the other hand, did sign several treaties and agreements to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine. This whole "Russia was provoked" argument is just not what some think it is.
@@osubeaver9976
Nothing is what it seems more often than not. That said, no one on either side disputes the claim that nato promised not to expand east. So why is it that you e come to your conclusion after some simple googling?
You really need more guests from Europe/Eastern Europe to explain things first hand.
No. Let’s bring in more comedians.. They know everything and have all the answers
Just not $$$Ukrainian$$$
Cuz Americans don’t get an opinion on the war they are paying for 😂
This guy got a lot of things wrong... Fact checking in real time would be so nice.
@@SavNout01 yea bring in the fact checker bots
If your neighbour kept moving their fence an inch into your yard would you just let them have your land
And here a year later......a small miscalculation can turn into a big miscalculation
Yeah man i really didn't expect it would've escalated to a full on nuclear war
Everyone likes to think that when something major happens in History, it’s all because of a one worded answer
Juice
usually in the west, its one group,one tribe
Seems like this guy’s answer is more one-worded. “America”. As if the Ukrainian people didn’t make the choice themselves to side with westernisation (pro hint: they did).
@T800: Absolutely
@@fedarch It’s wrong to call it westernization.
It’s democracy and human rights against autocracies and dictatorships.
The western countries are a huge mix of cultures, politics, finance markets and even conflicts between them. What is share in the west is democracy. The knowledge that politicians need replacement and not necessarily to ensure we get the best, but to avoid the worse to keep damaging their citizens like Putin has been doing all this time.
Dude is such a funny word when you’re not American
Dude...
Not really?
That's how I feel about the word "lad" as an American 😆
In swahilli it can be used as a curse word
@@abdillahijalalkhan2128 he eat da poo poo all ova his face
Dave very clearly connects the dots between the Ukraine, the Obama administration, the Trump administration and the Biden administration. I knew all this information already, but I never heard it explained in such a clear chronological order that gives the whole conflict a full layer of depth
The fact that american talk shows just try and make a joke out of such serious situations is so telling about their society and overall mindset.
All your official news has long looked like a show of hypocrisy and propaganda. I first saw it in 2014 when I was abroad. It seemed that the world collapsed, and it was just your stupid channels covering the coup in Ukraine. Then I returned home and calmly analyzed the situation. Then my friends went to take their relatives out of the Donbass, and someone stayed there to fight for another two years. For us, this war began in 2014. Greetings from Russia!
Its very common. And the audience claps along like brain-dead sponges.
Bizarre.
Coping mechanisms are wild. Im shitting my pants while laughing. What else am I supposed to fuckin do?
@@danielchelyshev9529 at least you admit it
@@danielchelyshev9529 Change your pants
Everyone thinks this has been going on for the past year... How do u think these parts of Ukraine were first annexed? It didn't happen overnight
Holomodor
I was honestly shocked when I googled "Russia Ukraine war" and the first result states that this war has been going on since 2014......
@@mtlgrrrr wait... you didn't hear of the civilian aircraft from Malaysian airline that was shot down by Russian separatists armed by Russia?
@@mtlgrrrr Probably because it had dramtically slowed down and was mostly a fight between Ukraine and the Separatists, Russia only was directly involved to take Crimea but even then they denied involvement. Which is hilarious
@@Draclord35 nope this is all news to me
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong - Mencken
America's fault!
@@daano465 always is….
the foundation of american conservatism
Probably the dumbest quote I've ever read.
This Dave Smith dude is just repeating Russian propaganda. This NATO provocation take has been repeated since the 1990s. Nothing new. Maybe some truth to how it motivates Russia but I am quite sure that those who live in the Baltic states would have a different opinion.
Dave Smith is a national treasure.
You know, I came from a military family and was in the military, I had lots of high-ranking and officers in my family, all of them agree that you should never tell the enemy your plans!!!!
You don't have to be in the Military to know that.
@@TheWersum ???
@@TheWersum you mean like Russia did in Pakistan in the 30's abd then to their own people like Mao Zedong , killing most of their population ? ...Damn that's crazy , that all the problems in the world are not caused by America buts is a 50/50 between the east and the west
@HIT EM' HARD! ??
@@KeepYosheAccounted Mao is alive.
I'm honestly shocked that guy on The Colbert show spilled so much strategic information.
He didn’t said anything that isn’t obvious for everybody that follows politics. Putin and the rest of the eastern leaders are talking about it all the time. Because USA is doing that with a lot of countries
@@o_oel I disagree.
@@coloradolove7957 about what?
@@o_oel I'm not going to read back my comment and your reply... It's all there.
@@o_oel thing is, most of people dont follow politics. And politics in the west want It to keep It that way. So yeah, It is amazing how this guy was spilling that much truth in there.
Hi! A Croatian here. I remember the impact that Soros backed NGOs had in this region in 90ties and early 2000. I was completely blinded by the sweet talk of freedom, democracy, equality... Looking back i can see i understood little and i was falling into a propaganda trap. It was all aimed for us to lose our sovereignty. And they have succeesed sadly.
I'm afraid not everyone in the audience understood the sarcasm))
There is a great documentary on the breakup of jugoslavia who focuses on the parts that are not told in the mainstream history.. The weight of chains on youtube
The amount of stuff I hear about what former Yugoslavia used to be by western people boggles me. Complete arrogant innacuracy. They almost feel affronted when I tell them it's bs & I was born & lived there to prove it. Then apparently I was brainwashed lol.
@@cynicalahole7131 Weight of chains also tells a story from a perticulair side. Alot of BS in those docs, and im saying this as a guy who lived through that war... However its still more precise than many of the mainstream narratives.
Serb here. Same situation here. They just had us neighbours kill each other for nothing. Now we are all just a bunch of small corrupt and heavily indebted countries and our youth is leaving. No one really won the war.
I would like to add the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances (1994) to the discussion.
its no longer valid udm ahh because the west broke the agreement not to expand nato first and the ukraine is no longer a neutral state as it was before the coup
“ Trade up to its abusive boyfriend in the hood, to a nice yuppie.” Enter American psycho 😂😂
gopnik mafia vs starbucks..🤓
So in essence, "still be abused, but have nicer stuff".
Don't know if you've seen american psycho but i'd say abused would be an understatement 😅
Trade up abuse to a freaking manslaughter!
@@adamworth22 I mean, that's basically what the CIA is... A whole government branch of them. Look up Phoenix Program. Live eels. Dogs. Rubber hoses. Electrical shocks. Gang rape. American tax dollars at work.
War is a Racket.
- General Smedley D. Butler
Semper Fi
two marines two medals
There it is 👍
Thank you so much for showing this!
10000000 % right
"...We don't know what's really going on..."
Ancient times till present day.
Species with amnesia
Agreed. We never know what goes on behind the closed doors of these politicians. Putin and zelensky (however you spell his name) could have planned this whole situation ahead of time
@@syr72 the politicians are merely the errand boys.
The political classes and the media have always treated the general public like mushrooms... Kept in the dark and fed shit.
Lolwhat… planned the murder of their own people? Do you also believe 911 was planned by USA?
I moved from Idaho to northern ND (grew up here) about 1 yer ago. There has been constant military movement of our nuclear missiles. It is so frequent now, that nobody even bothers talking about it anymore.
Because Space Force Guardians work in those silos to man them 24/7 and maintain them.
cool story bro. If there is nuclear war ND is probably the one area no one will want to waste a nuke on
Hi Scott, are you saying missiles have been moved strategically into place in ND to be closer to North East Russia?
@@BlahBlah-em2ed Sorry, that's the Department of Energy's job, them and their nuclear arsenal paramilitary watchdog groups which have little to no oversight whatsoever. Don't believe me? Take a deep dive into the tomfoolery issued forth by the DOE and their black budget.
@@HitchcockTheSnail ICBM’s (missiles) have been in ND for decades.
The only real lesson that countries are learning from this is not to give up nuclear weapons for some vague security agreement .
You are being mislead on this subject too. Ukraine never had control over soviet nuclear weapons, it was just stationed on Ukraine territory. Even if they were to keep it, they couldn't use it without launch codes and such stuff.
Yep. So you just defacto supported development of nuclear capabilities in North Korea and Iran. 😁
or that America is full of shit when it comes to their foreign policy........
No reason Iran and North Korea shouldn't have nukes. Main argument is "they might use them" and we'll the Yanks already did, and we still let them keep theirs.
No the real lesson is stop pissing on the Russians feet and peace talks. They refuse to negotiate with Russia.
You can't say Nato has expanded East right onto Rissia's doorstep and then turn around and say Putin is wrong for fighting against that. How does that make any sense?
Because we have to continue to defend our position. And saying that you agree with Putin decision to invade Ukraine is a step too far for most viewers. But the reality is Putin had no real option but to invade and the US and NATO made sure of this by refusing to negotiate.
Because NATO didn't invade countries, other countries are allowed to join international alliances if they want.
Very simple logic.
@@justinworley5075 Simple logic for sure. The reality is however that it's not really that simple. By that simple logic it should be okay for Russia to have military assets based in Canada.
@@Mike-id7bh if the US was a terrible partner for Canada and Russia was better, then yes it would be perfectly sensible for Canada to partner with Russia. This doesn't justify the US invading Canada
Stop being dumb. An agreement between two sovereign nations that doesn't directly impact a 3rd nation occurs, it doesn't justify the 3rd to invade either party. Could they bolster their defenses? Sure. But invasion of another nation is never justified outside of that nation directly attacking the invader first.
Maybe the Russians should've been good partners for their neighbors and not spend centuries across numerous governments doing nothing but harming them and their people. Maybe then most of the eastern bloc wouldn't hate Russia 🤷
Stop with this dumbass gotcha
Then, why does Russia decide to launch the war against weak Ukraine instead of attacking Finland???
Two months before the 'invasion' Zelenski offered to place NATO missiles in the Ukraine in exchange for NATO membership.
Anybody remember the Cuban missile crisis?
I remember that the day before of the "SMO" Zelensky was asking the west for nuclear missiles. Next morning the Russian troops invaded.
@@microbus432they were already assembling in Donbas and at the border since months, Russia had already occupied Crimea and moved nuclear ballistic missiles in both Crimea and Kaliningrad. Are you really that naive to think that was the reason for invading (after they already invaded)?
@@valeriocampolo6279 2014 onwards Zelensky's troops were shelling donbass with NATO 155mm shells. Putin has been asking the US to hold talks against escalation since 2008! I'm not saying they are innocent, far from it.
Start reading history but don't use google based search engines! You will not be showed the full picture.
@@valeriocampolo6279let’s be honest they tried to get un membership which was Russia red line that’s to close
Exactly!
What a time to be alive..for now
Till we all sit around the fire at the same time! Like all of us..
I like bonfires, but I prefer no mushrooms
"There are known knows and known unknows" famous words
There are also unknown unknowns.
@@badmanskill1112 Yes. And on top of that, there are also unknown knowns, and known known unknowns. Geesh, my brain is melting.
@@petermello55 you know
@@mwy1721 The more I know, the more I don't. (but not ''the less I do'' - there's a difference).
"There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns--- the ones we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld
I really like Dave Smith.
Not enough emphasis on the 8 years of war in the Donbas
Which was started by russia-supported separatists
@@vasvas8914 and why would they seperate? Research that a bit
@@vasvas8914 started by the separatist coz Ukraine banned their language. Saying if you speak or even think in russian then go back to Russia, ignoring the fact that donbas is their ancestral land. Humor me for a second, what do you think would happen if canada banned French. Would the Quebec people not rise up. Or if Spain banned the Catalan language. Yes the answer would be separatist would rise up wanting secession.
@@mntrader51 Yeah, I need the source on that one :D
Read up on the Ukraine Language Policy. Its true it banned their language even books and television
And people still think this is a democracy😂
America is a constitutionally limited republic. It is not, and never has been a domocracy. A form of government abhored by the founders which they correctly considered "mob rule".
Sadly there are too many humans who have the power to do horrible things without facing any real consequences.
And that clouds their judgement and makes them risk way too much in the name of "the greater good".
...the greater good
Russia has a bomb shelter the size of DC's beltway. I imagine the US has bigger. We need to cement them up so they can live with us surface dwellers.
@Tommy Snurkerburger also the point is the usa is a bunch of liars and war mongers who never adhere to our promises. After we brought freedom to saudi arabia its gone south from where it was. We really have only ever did more harm then good. Except for ww2 and before.
What is the "greater good" in this case?
@Tommy Snurkerburger Putin has NEVER been predatory though. Ukraine has been free and civilized just like the rest of Eastern Europe for the past 30 years. What you're saying barely makes sense in this context.
Your Awesome Joe, Keep up the Great Work You Do Brother.