Holding onto my Catholic faith and mostly conservative views (I agree with the left on environmental and social issues) has resulted in me being called a 'disgrace to our people' by the LGBT community and rejected by my college's LGBT social group. It's not east holding onto ones beliefs even when you come to the realization of being gay, and I highly respect these two men.
it is refreshing to see people who have such strong faith. No matter who you are or what you do, you are always welcome at the Catholic church. If you are doing well or if you are struggling, you still need Jesus in your life. You are better with the church than without it. Jesus loves you, and so do I.
I stay for the time being because the Church works for me on the pastoral level. I have a great parish. But I am 69 years, and I owe it to my community to renounce the Church before my death, unless the intrinsically disordered Church is finally reformed and issues an apology.
You think too highly of yourself if you think we have to apologise to you for obeying God's word. Gays are welcome but they must be chaste. If that's too much for you to handle then always remember you can always leave.
@@macnosmutano4849 I am now 70 years old. Nothing, but nothing is too hard for me to handle from the likes of your uncharitable, un-Christian self. You are not the gatekeeper of the Catholic Church to be inviting or disinviting people into its pews. Indeed, I think, no, I know you owe me in particular a great apology for the disrespect of your reply. My challenge is in ever finding the grace, Christ’s grace, to forgive you for your utterly snot filled and reprehensible words. For now at least, GTH.
No sir this faith of ours is not be changed by the world, but to change the world. You have the same obligation to chastity that hetrosexual folks have.
@@lorenzobianchini4415 I can see where it may look that way. But as I was reminded in marriage preparation, I have an obligation to be chaste within my marriage. Being reminded that my wife is my wife FOR LIFE. Divorce is frowned on, and there can be no further sexual relationship with any other woman, unless an annulment is granted. And you must prove just cause.
@@anthonyhantonh Am glad you can see why it is unjust not merely looks unjust.You dont need to be chaste as is evidenced by Apologists unable to control their passions with a result they have in the case of Patrick Madrid and numerous in the case of Trent Horn for which they are applauded. No it is wrong and unjust regardless
reminds me of end times warning of GOD the last chapter of the Bible REVELATION Chapter .(ALSO ARE YOU NOT WARNED YET FROM THIS POPE MAKING ALL RELIGION AS ONE WHEN GOD IS ONLY ONE?!). GOD LOVES YOU ! Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;(Revelation 18:4) Her means Roman Catholism who worship idol and Mary and Catholic edited HOLY BIBLE to distract GOD'S children to know him to save their own souls and of others... Matthew 7:15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves John 14:6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really know me, you will know b my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” John 14:15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be c in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.” John 14:23“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. John 14:25 All this I have spoken while still with you. 26But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name,
Holding onto my Catholic faith and mostly conservative views (I agree with the left on environmental and social issues) has resulted in me being called a 'disgrace to our people' by the LGBT community and rejected by my college's LGBT social group. It's not east holding onto ones beliefs even when you come to the realization of being gay, and I highly respect these two men.
it is refreshing to see people who have such strong faith. No matter who you are or what you do, you are always welcome at the Catholic church. If you are doing well or if you are struggling, you still need Jesus in your life. You are better with the church than without it. Jesus loves you, and so do I.
God has graced both of you abundantly, living saints
I stay for the time being because the Church works for me on the pastoral level. I have a great parish. But I am 69 years, and I owe it to my community to renounce the Church before my death, unless the intrinsically disordered Church is finally reformed and issues an apology.
You think too highly of yourself if you think we have to apologise to you for obeying God's word. Gays are welcome but they must be chaste. If that's too much for you to handle then always remember you can always leave.
@@macnosmutano4849 I am now 70 years old. Nothing, but nothing is too hard for me to handle from the likes of your uncharitable, un-Christian self. You are not the gatekeeper of the Catholic Church to be inviting or disinviting people into its pews. Indeed, I think, no, I know you owe me in particular a great apology for the disrespect of your reply. My challenge is in ever finding the grace, Christ’s grace, to forgive you for your utterly snot filled and reprehensible words. For now at least, GTH.
No sir this faith of ours is not be changed by the world, but to change the world. You have the same obligation to chastity that hetrosexual folks have.
A tad hypocritical of heterosexuals saying they have to be chaste until married whilst gays must be so for life.No no no
@@lorenzobianchini4415 I can see where it may look that way. But as I was reminded in marriage preparation, I have an obligation to be chaste within my marriage. Being reminded that my wife is my wife FOR LIFE. Divorce is frowned on, and there can be no further sexual relationship with any other woman, unless an annulment is granted. And you must prove just cause.
@@anthonyhantonh Am glad you can see why it is unjust not merely looks unjust.You dont need to be chaste as is evidenced by Apologists unable to control their passions with a result they have in the case of Patrick Madrid and numerous in the case of Trent Horn for which they are applauded. No it is wrong and unjust regardless
HYPOCRISY IS WHAT I CALL IT!!!
reminds me of end times warning of GOD the last chapter of the Bible REVELATION Chapter .(ALSO ARE YOU NOT WARNED YET FROM THIS POPE MAKING ALL RELIGION AS ONE WHEN GOD IS ONLY ONE?!).
GOD LOVES YOU !
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;(Revelation 18:4)
Her means Roman Catholism who worship idol and Mary and Catholic edited HOLY
BIBLE to distract GOD'S children to know him to save their own souls and of others...
Matthew 7:15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves
John 14:6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really know me, you will know b my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
John 14:15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be c in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
John 14:23“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.
John 14:25 All this I have spoken while still with you. 26But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name,