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As a Catholic homosexual even I know the truth. You can't bless sin in any way. You can bless the sinner but not any sin. You can bless the sinner individually but not as a couple.
You are an example to us all. God bless you for your honesty.T
i’ll pray for you, God bless you, you’re a good man & God willing you will be saved if you continue to seek Him :)❤️
Amen brother 🙏
I commend you for being faithful and willing to follow Christ in a world that tells you to follow your temptations. God bless you bro and stay strong!🙏
As long as you’re not expressing the sin, than you’re good. Idk if homosexuality is something you can control, I feel like you can perhaps. But don’t act on it, as it leads to degradation from what I know.
I think everyone's problem with this, is that it's not an individual blessing, it's a couple's blessing. I assume with this logic you could bless a couple in an adulterous relationship and have no problem with it. Seems a little fishy to me.
As well as individuals who got divorced and are in new relationships. It's not marriage but, it seems like it's condoning something the church is supposedly against
Polygamy is next, or perhaps adultery. “Hello Father, my girlfriend and I really love each-other and we also love the Mass. Perhaps one day we’ll get around to annulling my prior marriage, but you know, the kids and all… Hey! How about a blessing!”
Totally agree
@@stephenlight647A blessing isn't just words. You are negating the supernatural aspect of it. Priests have consecrated hands. If two homosexuals ask for a blessing from a priest, it will provide something good for them. It can help them to abandone their sin.
@@fernandogomez8705 too bad their consecrated hands sometimes like to squeeze altar boys. At least here the police can help to abandon their sin.
My biggest fear is not with the doctrine changing, but with this causing so much scandal.
What do you mean?
Well the doctrine isnt changing. The ones causing scandal are the rad trads.
@@christopherjohnson9167respectfully I don't even think it's the rad trads, it's the people who don't attend church but learn all their Biblical knowledge through RUclips. Have you seen how many videos Living Waters has made to attack the Catholic just to be debunked.
The ones causing scandal are those spreading misinformation.
@@christopherjohnson9167 no, both rad libs, rad Trads and Catholics that still believe mainstream media are all confused.
Unfortunately, like the modern Church always does, It's change management is lacking and clumsy.
Thank God for people like father Casey.
I just don't know why the Pope bothered. Priests can bless anyone. A Priest blesses us at the end of Mass. Why cause all the negative fall out which was inevitable. Why bless them as a couple?
You touched the heart of it that many are trivializing! The togetherness of the couple bears substantial moral implications.
Bingo
It's not that the Church is seeking to bless couples it's more that if you approach as a couple and you are seeking to get a blessing you will get only a pastoral blessing that in no way legitimizes your relationship but instead asks God for his grace to live faithfully according to the Gospel. This is helpful specially in countries like Germany where it sets rules for blessings so that priests won't try to bless in a way that legitimize sinful relationships and if they do well they are going against what the Pope has approved and what the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith has explicitly ruled and published.
" In such cases, a blessing may be imparted that not only has an ascending value but also involves the invocation of a blessing that descends from God upon those who-recognizing themselves to be destitute and in need of his help-do not claim a legitimation of their own status, but who beg that all that is true, good, and humanly valid in their lives and their relationships be enriched, healed, and elevated by the presence of the Holy Spirit. These forms of blessing express a supplication that God may grant those aids that come from the impulses of his Spirit-what classical theology calls “actual grace”-so that human relationships may mature and grow in fidelity to the Gospel, that they may be freed from their imperfections and frailties, and that they may express themselves in the ever-increasing dimension of the divine love.
32. Indeed, the grace of God works in the lives of those who do not claim to be righteous but who acknowledge themselves humbly as sinners, like everyone else. This grace can orient everything according to the mysterious and unpredictable designs of God. Therefore, with its untiring wisdom and motherly care, the Church welcomes all who approach God with humble hearts, accompanying them with those spiritual aids that enable everyone to understand and realize God’s will fully in their existence.[22]
Exactly!
It's called incrimentalism. It's one step toward their desired outcome.
Satan is the master of confusion.
Plenty of Catholics in the comments here more than happy to help.
@@BreakingInTheHabit I’m not the one confused…
Confusion is within a mind. People become confused by thoroughly non-confusing things, simply by being tired. -but Confusion is 'a lack of understanding, uncertainty" You cannot logically assert that some one else is confused. Only mistaken. As we mortals cannot see the heart.
The admonition against confusion, is for the confused. -not the allegedly confusing. For Example. This Document is not confusing, but some people are confused.
Think of it like an interception in a sports ball game. Truth is sent out, the devil confuses people about it.
Jesus hung out with Mary Magdalene. Christ was not confused, or confusing. Yet..... people were confused. and are confused -even to this day. We humans even made up more stuff about her to help us along in our confusion.
You are correct, Satan is a "Confuser", but I would hesitate to call him a Master of anything at all.
@@jck6920 so help those who are confused
As a homosexual I chose the way to stay single. This is my moral choice because the church taught me to do so. Now people are trying to change the dogma, it’s really hard to accept. When I decided to obey the law of the church I thought at least I have church.
Listen to his words and heart. He needs to get people astray close as Jesus went to the sheep who was lost. Jesus never wanted to be with the righteous only. Let the Pope show them they are loved and not vile and his child That's all it is. .
God bless you!
You still have a church. Don't worry about media soundbites. The Pope hasn't changed the doctrine. Keep your eyes fixed on the cross, stay close to the Eucharist and pray your rosary. You made a courageous choice, given the wicked world we live in. Keep honouring God and He will preserve and honour you as He does His Church. The media twists things. God doesn't. I wish I could pray with you, but I will pray for you. ❤
Stay strong with what the Catholic Church taught for 2.000 years.
Hello friend!. I'm a Protestant on his way to Rome.
I don't think it is a coincidence that this morning while reading "Surprised by Truth" I came accross a word I did not know.
"Donatist"...
The amount of Donatism and Calvinism that have crept into my heart and theological beliefs is alarming, to say the least. It has crippled my ability to serve Him. Perhaps even more than the sin in my life. ( Wanna compare? I betchya I'm a 'better' sinner than you! betchya a dollar to a dime! /s )
And now, a story!
My first foot fall towards Rome took place when I, an Anarchist Protestant, Donatist and Calvinist (delightfully contradictory, I know.)... Humbled myself, Trusted God to forgive me if I was wrong... and received a blessing from a Priest in leu of the Eucharist that was calling my name. A blessing upon me, as a person, not on my then held beliefs. It seems readily apparent that this behavior regarding blessing humans, is not the same as condoning an interior belief or behavior. Nor is it the same as blessing the Sin in a persons life. Evidentally, we needed the reminder. So, we have been reminded.
I am well on my way to Rome and we still have the Church.
Mathew 16:18 - of course, confirms this.
Now don't y'all cradle Catholics go and let an old leather lung trained Protestant beat you out on Theology. /s
Love y'all.
-b
This was also my understanding of the document. However, a very outspoken Priest in Virginia has decided that we can now begin to bless gay couples in some form or another because it says "gay couples". If the Holy See wanted to be clear it wouldn't say "couple" but gay individuals.
The problem would be that priest then, not the Holy See. You think that priest would be a priest if he didn't know catholic doctrine?
A priest blessing a gay union or marriage is wonderful. What's the problem?
If I need two eggs for a recipe, and I ask someone to get me a couple of eggs, does that necessarily imply the eggs are going to get married?
@@rickshelley1287logical impossibility like saying a square that's a circle. Homosexual and Catholic are incompatible
@rickshelley1287 what planet are you on, its a mortal sin.
why cant we just bless the homosexual couples individually, why do they have to be blessed together, it just sounds like we are affirming their relationship
It's exactly what it means, despite the "naïve" explanation Fr Casey is trying to give out of good will.
That's in the document. paragraph 31. They can't be blessed as a couple unless they admit that their union is disordered in which case the blessing must also be a call to repentance and celibacy. If the couple is unrepentant while requesting the blessing they can not receive the blessing.
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged thank you for the explanation 👍👍👍
Bingo
@@habibak.6234I mean no disrespect, but I truly hope you read the comment below yours. A lot of people are causing scandal, criticizing the pope without reading the document.
If it’s no big deal and changes nothing, why was it necessary at all? What was the motive and antecedent for it? More importantly, what will be the result? When Bruce and Wayne have a civil union and later come to a priest for a blessing, what will be the response? What will be the expectation? Certainly not an individual blessing and help to overcome their sinful behavior. They are looking for a Church blessing of the union. If that is not the case, then this is moot and unnecessary. If the suggestion is that Priests are turning away homosexuals attempting to overcome their sinful desires, then I call nonsense! This decision is opening the door without touching the doorknob. There is no other way to understand it. The Church is under stress!
I mean, I don't think it makes sense, let's imagine that a homossexual couple approaches a priest and asks for a Blessing, I don't think they would be asking for a blessing to actually grow in faith and obedience to the Church, as this would result them to break up and quit the homossexual life style entirely, they would probably be asking for a blessing in order to grow in their relationship, which would be against what the church teaches. That is kinda "disrespectful" to both side. You would have one side being asked to bless something they don't or at least should not agree with and in the other side they would be receiving a blessing intended for their relation to fail.
it's not just "couples" it's any person and being gay he is trying to show them they aren't on the outside they way they feel. I get it. I know many gay people, didn't grow up in a bubble. Many left the church for Episcopal and other denominations and feel like they aren't wanted under any circumstance. Are they supposed to wear a shirt saying "I'm gay and chaste?" I don't think most people would care, it's just the "gay" that matters. He wants them to feel welcome but wont change church rules.
Thank you Father Casey for coming to the rescue. You cleared the fog out there.
Social media really does not have the correct news in this case.
Thank you for the short common sense anfd vcorrect meaning of blessing
Viva fr casey...😂
Who knows? It could be the start of this hypothetical couple's journey to conversion. I suggest reading the forward to Dunstan Thompson's "Here At Last Is Love", a collection of poems by a gay Catholic author who came back into full communion with the Church and inspired his Anglican-raised partner to also become Catholic.
Little known fact: Oscar Wilde, the somewhat infamous gay icon, reverted to the Catholic faith while he was dying of kidney disease, and brought his partner Lord Douglas and several other gay men in their social circle into the Church as well. Long before his reversion, he wrote a glowing tribute to the beauty and splendor of the Tridentine Latin Mass ...in his novel "The Picture of Dorian Grey".
Would this also take into consideration the variable of them living together and laying in the same bed ? Which is a mortal sin when done so outside of marriage. Even for heterosexual couples.
In this case since they are homosexual, they’d are stuck in a perpetual cycle of mortal sin. There also must be the earnest intent of repentance in one’s heart.
@@MatrixRefugee Yes can you imagine if Jesus saw the women at the well and didn't approach her? No she's not perfect like the people online. Many have conversions, some slow when meeting certain religious. Mostly from the love they showed, not the condemnation.
The part you seem to have missed completely is that they are not presenting themselves individually for a blessing to strengthen them to turn away from a sinful lifestyle, but asking for a blessing to confirm their togetherness as a COUPLE and to condine the sexual relationship. How is that so difficult to see?
Except, it is specifically disallowed to bless their togetherness (at least sexually) and the sin itself is still clearly called a sin.
If the priest blessed a heterosexual couple who happens to use birth control, I suspect few would be all that concerned, but that's effectively the same thing as blessing a homosexual couple.
Thank you for that point !!
No, its not the same thing at all. The heterosexual couple can repent, stop using birth control, seek absolution, and they are regularized. Even an adulterous couple can, with declarations of nullity, have their relationships regularized. A homosexual couple can NEVER have their intrinsically disordered relationship regularized. Same with polygamists. Same with incestual relationships, all of which may now receive a "non-liturgical" blessing.t @user-bc7cb8uu7e
Have you read the document?
Blessing a couple that is living a sinful lifestyle is encouraging the sinful lifestyle.
Yep. Like helping a drug addict by blessing their stash.
You didn’t watch the video
@@timothyjackson4653r u seriously comparing homosexuality, a completely and totally harmless state of being and action) to something which actually does cause harm like drug addiction?
You didn't watch the video did you? Blessing is not for the holy people. It is for the sinful people who want to be holy, who want to realign themselves to God.
@@shoshishoshi127 The togetherness of such couples is inconsistent with wanting to be holy and realign themselves to God. Conversion can only happen at the individual level, so they should come as individuals for blessings to aid their conversion. The document imposes a disjunction between blessing and validation, which is irreconcilable with scripture. The old and new Testaments emphasize blessings for the righteous and repentant, and demise for those who persists in sin.
Anglican church stance was traditional marriage only, then they allowed blessing of gay couples, now marriage, now openly gay priests, openly gay bishops who divorced wife for male partner. Rome is a mess
they are not in communion with Rome. Anglican church is just another Protestant denomination.
Bravo reasoning and predictable.
@@_eemjee_ yes, I was using them as an example?
Have you read the document?
Thank you so much for this video. I feel like all my Catholic heroes have fallen away and gone the route of dissension and evil suspicion. I can count on one hand the number of Catholic RUclipsrs that remain faithful and level-headed.
Have you listened the reaction of the LGBT community? This is being viewed as acceptance of their lifestyle not a path of change in any way shape or form.
Pope Francis needs to come out and say very clearly to save your soul you need to repent, learn the catechism and to go to confession. There should also be teachings on how to live a chaste life in order that they may not commit sins of the flesh.
I'm glad I'm not a part of that alphabet community anymore and finally found peace within the church
amen! me too@@CheeseGuy-uc5or
Good luck ever hearing Pope Francis saying something like that.
@@CheeseGuy-uc5or thank you Jesus for bringing this beautiful soul back to your flock
@@ethel8959 Thank you
Last night I prayed my rosary for broken families & marriages. Now I'll pray one for all versions of LGBTQ. I have my own issues with sin my brothers and sisters, please pray for me too. Our Lady will help us all. Amen
dont worry brother got that covered. believe in God and he always got your back
The Church already allows blessing to any sinner, so he/she can get better. Blessing two people together when the sin is inextricably connected to the relationship between them is not only confusing but downright misleading. We get enough gaslighting from politicians, Fr.; I hope we san stick to Truth in our public pronouncements.
I think it's actually more effective if both parties of a sinful relationship are to be blessed instead of just one of them.
Again, blessing is not for the holy people. It is for the people who want to be holy. So it makes great sense that participants of sinful relationships need to be blessed so they can realign themselves to the path of righteousness.
A friend send me a prayer that could be useful in such situations: “May Almighty God bless each one of you and help you live chastity as brothers in Christ, pursuing your vocation to a celibate life, keeping you safe from the temptations of the flesh and lust. Amen”
Thank you for such a good explanation of this document! God bless you, Father!
It's in the catechism. We can only speculate why the Pope did what he did.
I do agree that we shouldn't deny anyone a blessing,
but I think that doing it in the context of "blessing homosexual couples" WILL inevitably lead to confusion and it WILL lead to this sin being legitimised, I believe.
It is more than confusion, it is clearly an endorsement of the sin. Same as blessing an unmarried couple of man and woman who live in sin. Why would a priest bless such couple?
@@habibak.6234In order for them to repent? You are forgeting God's influence in a blessing. It isn't just words from a priest.
@@habibak.6234 Please read paragraph 11 of the document
Because they are children of God wanting a relationship with him under difficult human circumstances.Jesus never turned anyone away he knows their heart.
@@marynayna6327 thank you for this. This topic hits close to home for me and I was getting quite discouraged by reading so many judgmental comments.
Father I am still confused if a individual wants a blessing that’s fair enough but when a couple come looking for a blessing and are living together and are attached to each other, is the church not blessing their relationship which is totally against God ???
My question is why did this declaration happen now? It has never been prohibited by the Church to bless a person. Any person. My biggest concern is that the liberal part of the Church will take the next step and try to change doctrine ever so slightly and then keep changing it.
And you are correct in your concern... walks like a duck... quacks like a duck.... sneaky little Jesuits....
They can try to change it, but they won't be able to because God is still the head of the Church and will put a stop to them. You can't change doctrine ever so slightly to the direction of falsehoods unless God doesn't exist.
There is a major change here although it is being denied. COUPLES are being blessed, and the togetherness of the couples is a sinful act. This does not fit Fr. Casey’s explanation that we were sinners could use blessings to find their way to God. That could only happen if the blessing was for the individual and not the couple
…just like the Vatican II documents.
Because it is heresy , It is Francis ‘ opportunity to get in this diabolical deception., Bishop Schneider is right, this is a word play, semantics . Francis is permitting the condoning and blessing of so ful lifestyle that will damn the souls of these SS couples he is telling priests to bless. And he is removing top down autbority to give it to clergy at lowest levels to do as they please. This is not love but diabolical hatred leading souls to hell. Shane on Fr Casey and all who dare to condescend by telling g is to RELAX. That being a well understood insult . Praying for your soul and your priesthood, Fr Casey, and for all the many souls you most surely mislead .
My worry is that this is a slippery slope. And history shows that slippery slopes can indeed be very slippery. Let´s hope it is not the case here.
I think this is exactly what it is. Incrementalism. If we are already blessing people and not relationships, then why even put out this ruling in the first place?
Slippery slope remains undefeated
If you believe that the church is stablished by Christ, and guided by the Holy Spirit that won't happen.
@@GabrielPereira-hm1cz 🙏
@@GabrielPereira-hm1cz Yeah, and it won't happen cause people will wake up to what is happening here and stop it
Thank you so much for sharing ❤
Thank you so much Father. you have made this soooo clear...
yes that homophobia is a sin
Let's keep in mind that the many Catholic churches in my area, in honor of St. Francis Assisi, bless people's pets. So, people need to stop reading so much into blessings. It is not an endorsement of gay marriage any more than the blessing of pets signifies the Catholic Church acknowledging that dogs and cats have souls.
Good point!
Bless pets. Bless a boat. “Bless this mess” in people’s homes.
Okay, the last one was a bit cheeky :)
But you’re right.
Ok So what was the purpose of this doctrine and why was it necessary? Are you suggesting Priests were turning away individuals trying to change their behavior and desires?
@@pa_2600Being welcoming to marginalized people has all the sense of the world. They are getting into wokeism precisely because we have been neglecting them. I think this Pope is witty in that regard, those people have souls and they won't get saved if they become slaves to weird ideologies.
Can a witch ask a priest to bless her psychic shop? Can a couple ask a priest to bless their abortion? Can a CEO exploiting workers ask a priest to bless his business decisions? The answer is no, because you can't bless sin.
Thank you for the explanation ❤
Nothing is changing, eh? Would these blessings have been done 25-30 years ago?
Do you know many gay people that asked for a blessing 20/30 years ago? The church has always clarified its views over time. The gospel states that Mary was ' full of grace' but the dogma of the immaculate conception didn't come until 1950. The church clarifies teaching when questions are asked.
@@roddycavin4600 Ergo: The next “clarification” will be gay marriage, eh?
@@cindiloowhoo1166 no need as it's been clarified here. Some LGBT advocates are furious with the language used. Like so many things in the media it made a good headline.
Prior to Vatican II, females could not be alter servers either. And the mass was performed solely in Latin.
@@Aerykian You say that like those are bad things!😉
Fr Casey, did you ever watch Pope Francis's Hulu special with teens, answering questions about the church, being gay, abortion and other scandal? He was very thoughtful and thanked them at the end for their honesty. It had subtitles from Spanish but very good.
Novus COVID Ordo religion is dead.
Thank you for this video! I have a lot of people asking me about this and your video has helped me with giving them an explanation.
Thank you for this explanations!
Appreciate this clarity
Father with all due respect I think it is nieve to think thing this form of blessing will not be misused. Clarity on on whether these blessings are as a couple or individual need to be made. I believe that persons living in irregular circumstances will misuse this to find acceptance and affirmation rather than motivate them towards conversion. We see the world around us and people are looking for just that. It would be imprudent to just bless a couple not knowing their living circumstances, just as it would be imprudent to bless something without looking at it.
Im in Ireland and a LGBQT + advocate called the document insulting to gay people on the radio today lol
Exactly.
Because what this person wanted was probably a complete change of Catholic dogma, which cannot happen.
Yeah, here in Chile too. They were dissapointed because the document doesn't aprove homosexual relationships and mantains catholic doctrine regarding to marriage
The church will never change. We are made in God's image not the reverse.
@@BreakingInTheHabit The Pope is damned if he does damned if he doesn't .
This explanation is like reading the gospel witness of St. John the Baptist only to have an addendum “and with that St. John blessed Herod and Herodias so that they might find their way to God”
The hearts of many are being revealed
I get so tired of extremes, both the incorrigible haters and the "we can never criticize the Pope" crowd. After a day of trying to navigate this "Fiducia Supplicans" fiasco, and trying to hear both sides, I have to say the two short December 18 articles by Jeff Mirus and Phil Lawler over at Catholic Culture strike me as having that right balance.
From Lawler's piece, "Beginning today, pastors will be approached by couples who want not just a spontaneous blessing but a more public celebration: in the church, in front of family and friends, with music, with everyone dressed in their finest, with a reception to follow. Bring a young child to such a service, and will that child come home with the understanding that the Church did not bless the union?"
I read myself and listen to people like Bishop Barron who try to explain things in a way people can understand which is what the Pope said but worded slightly differently. I don't get the angst, I hope and it seems so, more people understood than didn't.
Father, will all due respect, please be discerning. There is more to this than what Vatican wants us to believe. The spiritual battle between good and evil is intensely on going. And us, taking the bait of half truths, is dangerous. Remember, Jesus did not stop at forgiving the adulteress. After being compassionate with her, Jesus said, "GO AND SIN NO MORE."
Please don't be taken over by culture wars and conspiracy theories.
Why enlightened people like you would want to remain in the church of Rome whose leaders don't even believe or follow the teachings of Jesus and the early apostles ,as this latest scandalous edict by Francis proves baffled me even more. 🤔
Watch the video.
Thank you, son. The clarification was helpful.
Thanks for clearing this out.
Thank you for this explanation.
I think all of the confusion would go away if the Holy Father didn’t allow for the blessing of couples. No one would be confused about blessing an individual. But once you bless two persons standing together as a couple, and they have expressed no intention of obeying God’s divine truth as revealed through the Church, then what could be the point of the blessing? Why are they not standing individually and asking for the blessing? I think the couple’s intention is clear to everyone.
Thanks, Father - excellent explanation
I was waiting for your video on this. I suspected that the Pope wasn’t going against Church teachings, but I hadn’t read the document.
Thank you for your clarity
Pope Francis has this incredible talent for leaving people confused with his statements.
The text is crystal clear. Mass Media are the ones causing confusion. Many of them on purpose, I'm afraid.
Yeah... Francis is funny like that.
Christ did very much the same, to be fair.
Not really. You have some people in the media that know full well if they print a headline that says "Pope supports blessing gay couples". They will get massive hits. The alphabet people will read it and ultimately be mad and real Catholics will read it and be confused and have to find out the truth from the source. This has been going on for a long time. Well before the current Pope.
@@drac7478 Constantly.
I wish the Vatican would put out some sort of statement clarifying this to the media
I don't think it would matter. The Vatican has declared that it cannot change church teaching something conveniently missed by the media.
In fairness, they kind of did. That is the purpose of the directive that Father Casey was reading from. It is more fair to be angry at the media that will intentionally misconstrue and misrepresent the Vatican’s statement.
After all, satan in the garden specifically resorted to misconstruing God’s words and used them to say something else.
@@glassfibersweater6063 I agree, I don't mean to say the Vatican did anything wrong or that there is anything unorthodox about the document. I just wish it was written in such a way that we didn't have this tremendous scandal now, especially with how the past statements on the topic have been received.
But as you say, this has been Satan's game ever since the beginning (misinterpreting God’s word).
The entire document is a clarification regarding statements Pope Francis made in October. It literally could not be clearer if people read it.
@@BreakingInTheHabit that's the problem, I'm afraid: IF people READ it.😅
Church's ecumenicals and doctrines have always the best wordings explaining the topic. Very clear and precise.
Your discussion is, as usual, excellent, but so are some of the comments. Merry Christmas and please keep these videos coming, Father.
but less homophobia eh
Incredible naivete in this thread. Let's pretend all is fine....
Many Pharisees among us still. Very sad to see the harshness of people's hearts.
PLease stop accusing people who are genuinely concerned about the salvation of all sinners of being hateful,you're making large assumptions and not being charitable when you do that.Peace,love and blessings to you and you alone father @@BreakingInTheHabit
Thank you so much for speaking on this so quickly. I saw the headline and thought. Ugh! I didn't even want to know. I don't even care anymore. I'm so tired of people bickering. But after listening to you I might actually go read it. So that I'm immune to the controversy.
Thank you. Your commentary never disappoints me it's always in a spirit of love and kindness.
Great explanation!
Thank you!
#33, if they want to receive mercy and repent, go to confession?
Amen, thank you for the clarity, this was my understanding after reading the document.
Thank you for your clarification, but I will have to watch it 20 times to get it.
Well said - good explanation of the obvious content of the document
I think a problem a lot of people have is using the term "couples." From what I understand, two gay men cannot be a couple. By using the word blessing a "couple," it tends to legitimize the relationship. They blessing the two a s individuals and not as a couple.
Yes, the Pope wants to bless gay couples.
Both couple can be bless individually if they come together. Why it is so hard to use commense?
Jesus says marriage is between a man and a woman ❤❤️🔥✝️🕊🙏
So does this document. But Jesus also says that we should love and welcome even those who are not perfect.
@@BreakingInTheHabit still marriage is between a man and a woman ✝️🛐🕊❤️🔥 that Jesus say
The Roman Catholic teaching is that marriage can't be between people who are divorced - not just man and woman. There are other requirements such as undertaking to raise children in the Faith
Yet, the Priest marry divorced people, those who are adulterers are offered communion.
Thank you, Father Casey!
Happy Christmas!
I am a bisexual Catholic, but even im worried about what this mwans for the future of the Church. How can you bless a couple if the very relationship itself is a sin? why not bless the individual? its just causing more and more confusion and was completely unnecessary to make this document in the first place
Oh the Ronan Catholic church has had a don't ask don't tell policy regarding divorce and remarriage. It is not as if any Priest turns away anyone from holy communion including same couples, folk having relationship and not married or even adulters ...
How many would be left in the pews if the church made an issue of sexual relationships
Father, this is unrelated to the excellent video. And I thank you for your explanation, which is why I have a question.
I recently had a conversation with a close friend of mine in which she told me she’s “washed her hands” of the Church because of the abuse scandals and that she hasn’t seen any changes in the Church. As I re-certify my child safety credentials for the third time in 4 months due to working around the country in different dioceses, I was wondering if it would be a good idea for a video to show what exactly the church HAS done to protect children and women in the wake of all this horror in the church.
Thanks for putting this in English. I feel like I need a few law degrees and maybe a few other classes just to understand what is stated on “official” comments.
All you need is to know the Deposit of Faith and see if Francis' statements align with it. They don't. He is teaching heresy.
@@carolynkimberly4021 So you read the document and you fully understand it and you can point out the heresy? If Christ was to call you today to His presence you would be able to explain to Him the pope's heresy without a problem if He was to ask you? Or are you just parroting what others in your circle, or youtbers that you watch say?
This guy absolutely has his head in the sand. If you claim that the document is not confusing people or is not leading people astray, then you are being dishonest, period.
I have been waiting for your explanation. And I’m not in one bit disappointed. You are a source of inspiration and you offer very clear explanation to things of the church. Thanks for the good work
*Hears conjecture* I'll wait for Friar Casey, thanks.
@@savedawretchwhy not read the document for yourself?
Did you expect him not to totally and unabashedly back whatever the Pope says or does. I have literally heard the Pope tell a young child that his atheist father can in no way be in Hades, I bet Casey would be able to defend that as well, I would you a link to the video of the Pope saying this but you can google it.
Leviticus (chapter 18, verse 22): "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination."
Now, my simple question: how can a church minister bless a behavior that, God's word, is an abomination!?!?
Did you not watch the video?
I think you are being naive Father, with all due respect.
Doesn't sound very respectful.
@@BreakingInTheHabit Neither does blessing a gay couple as a couple and not as individuals is respectful towards God. Would you bless a couple in an adulterous relationship? Or in a more extreme case, in a pederastic one? By blessing these as a couple, is like affirming this relationship, while we could easily bless people individually...
Thanks so much Father Casey
Is anybody here imagining Jesus blessing unconverted Maria Magdalena and her customer while Peter declaring only the persons are blessed but not the prostitution???!😅
The Word of God does not "relax". Homosexuality is a sin. Period. You can not bless a sin God has described as an abomination. Apostate thinking.
So glad you made this video, definitely helped to clear up some confusion.
Thanks. Very clear
The problem is that homossexual couples does not recognize themselves as sinners and are not asking for help to stop their gay relationship. That's the point.
When you bless something you approve of it your giving your blessing
You approve of what?.
When the priest gives us the blessing at the end of the Mass....he approves what?.
That doesn't make sense.
A general blessing is different then a specific blessing over two people in relationships is different and homosexualty is one of the sin God has destroyed entire cities for
Did you even watch the video?
@@BreakingInTheHabit yes loved the video see we are dealing with the spirit of the age also this is in line with some of the words of the blessed mother in medjugorje I love your channel but let's be honest we are playing Semantics I just know I am getting my bees wax candles and going to confession monthly thank for all you do father
They explain it better then I can
Thank you ❤
Thanks for pointing out the misleading reporting. But there’s still more to this. I understand the point you make about no one being perfect and any individual seeking a blessing should receive it. But that doesn’t really address the concern. Is Pop Francis saying that this is blessing for an irregular union or the just for each person involved? So it is for the relationship or the individuals? That’s a big difference because if it is for the former, that means it is blessing something that is contrary to God’s will.
I think it allows blessings for the relationship insofar as it's a raw friendship of sorts, given all the emphasis on prayer for the couple to walk in conformity to the teaching of the Church, and all the repeated prohibitions on making this blessing look like a marriage blessing in any way.
I mean, if you hear gay couples talk about their relationships, even the ones in sin will often expound on their friendship more than the sexual component, so if such a pair has a conversion experience, even a partial one, and seeks blessing frpmGod to grpw in general holiness together, then blessing them would be more about giving them strength to purify their relationship while strengthening the friendship aspect...
@@maryangelica5319 a friendship and perverted relationship are very different, don't try to water it down
@@maryangelica5319 There's no emphasis on repentance when they're walking up there. Gays will go up there thinking what they're doing is fine and not have a clue it's not. Official Blessings Priests may perform on say porn addicts may ask those seeking it:
How long have you had this problem?
How often and for how long do you fall into this sin?
Would you like help with this?
Nothing like this is taking place. It's all seemingly hidden away and all we're left with are two gays walking up holding hands getting a blessing to move closer to God. Give me a break.
Whatever said and done, “No one can Bless SIN”
let he who is without sin cast the first stone
@@hughmungus4089 it’s not about casting the first stone, this not the topic! Can you Bless Sin?
“‘As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained’” (John 20:21-23).
*If you are living in sin, how can it be Blessed? You are not repenting! Pray, tell me how can this be Blessed?
@@gazzadazza8341 I'm not here to argue have a good day
@@hughmungus4089 it’s not an argument, it’s a discussion, on what’s right and wrong.
@@gazzadazza8341 not my position to discuss or argue leave it up to God
I think you are missing the point, Father. The women caught in adultery comes to mind. Go and sin no more. This will be abused and not done as you have discussed. How can you bless two people living in sin and with no intention to change what they are doing. I will pray for them, but I could not bless them and have this viewed,as it will, as validating their live style. I think Pope Francis is misguided and is doing more harm than good through this. All that you have pointed out will be ignored by those requesting a blessing. Father Murray has this right.
God Bless.
Dennis Patton.
Very well said Father Casey!!
but homophobia is a sin
I understood since the news hit. However, many outside our church (and a few within...) have taken the headline and ran with it. Ive had to do a lot of further explaning to those who arent fully familiar with the faith. I just dont think a document had to be released stating what has always been the case. It seems too... agendized. Was the document necessary?
As a very liberal, “semi-Catholic” agnostic, this channel has been a great way to better understand the perspective of the Church on many current issues. And, while I may very often not agree, I appreciate the goodwill shown in your videos and it gives me more and more respect for the faith.
You should go to Church sometime it could give you a new view of different things, one mass can’t hurt
Forgive me father but a gay couple that want to repent don't ask for a blessings on their union . They split, confess their sin and live in accordance to Jesus teachings, we all are sinners and need to repent. Many of these couples don't want to and we can't give them and inch because that's how the road to hell is paved
The document says that the priest can bless spontaneously and on the following day it was introduced the New York Times was there ready to snap pictures of a priest blessing an (unrepentant) gay couple. It is an unnecessary confusion.
Let's be honest: we need a new pope. Francis has been a disaster - endless chaos, confusion and even cruelty against fellow Catholics. For the sake of the Church, Francis must go.
If we are (priests) blessing people in unnatural relationships, it needs to be made clear what is going on. It will seem as if the “marriage” is being condoned.
Yes. I think the moral implications of the togetherness of such couples are being given very cavalier regard. I was also shocked by the differentiation between blessing and validation in the introduction.
The couple is being blessed in this document. Ignoring this fact is not helpful
@@danielscalera6057 yes. Despite all the whitewashing attempts, Pope Francis contradicts what he said in 2021 that sinful unions cannon be blessed.
Priest perform weddings for divorced people - I think the bridge of blessing sinful sexual relationships was crossed long ago.
No one cares
This will cause major scandal, especially for children and those struggling with sin. Average people don’t read these documents, they observe what looks like two gay people being blessed and assume that the Church blesses sinful relationships now. The document says couples not individuals. This will destroy the faith in many, why does the Church not care about the children and the scandal it will cause them?
Very well said!
The more I contemplate the declaration, the more embarrassed I am that Frances had to declare it. We have become so polarized and hard-hearted. When Jesus said that whoever receives a child in His name, receives Him (Mark 9:37), He was talking about anyone who presents themselves like a child asking for help. How dare we refuse to offer a simple blessing to help?
To individuals no problem, but when speaking of couples their togetherness has moral implications.
Why gay couples then why not gay individuals?
@@beliciamathias Yes, you identified the “major change” that is being denied.
This!!!! Love all of it!♥️🙏🏻
Was this needed? Does the Church need to provide more media fodder adding to confusion amongst the faithful??
Thank you for providing context, references, and perspective.
Seems reasonable to me! Thanks Fr.
Blessing them together would be condoning and wishing success to the lifestyle their leading..just as you would not bless a unmarried couple living together.. simply because its sinful...Fr I know the explanation is out of good will but some things should be pointed out as right or wrong..we cant be grey on everything just to make a few people feel like coming to church
Sorry not sorry, but this blessings as they are being described, oriented to gay couples and not to individual sinners (as we all are), are very confusing and ambiguos, specially with the "spontanous" approach. This will be used as a tool against the church teaching and well being. Let's not play blind or relaxed roles, father Casey, because if we do, we will be part of the problem. God forgives us all.
Bang on!
Thank you Father for a clear explanation. I will continue to pray for you all. God bless you too.
I pray for lost homophobic souls
Bless you, my friend. Please continue praying.
@@btan1453 ys I pray for homophobics to repent
I'll pray for you too, my friend. God bless
Hi there. I know this channel might have lighter content in some ways, but I'm wondering if you might make a video about the situation going on which the Pope has been talking about also, the situation regarding a lot of killing and even the destruction of very old Church buildings and hospitals, schools, whatever else. It appears that the civilians involved who are getting harmed have no other option really besides allowing attack after attack since they don't have resources to do anything and the world seems to be turning a blind eye too (at least the governments), but the Pope has spoken about these issues and even received a U.S. State Department response which has to be something kind of weird and unique in recent history.
If you're familiar with any aspects of this that might make for useful teachings to be shared or can discuss the Pope's statements and also what is going on there and what people can do to try to make the things we don't like happening to possibly stop, what are the appropriate methods in your opinion and according to correct teachings to deal with all this sort of thing, and also to object to it and try to stop it? If you could provide information in a video that is realistic (because even if the people being killed are not entirely Christian, though they have a Christian population that is being harmed too by the advanced military attacking them in a 25 mile long by 5 mile wide walled in area that they can not leave or escape from)
they are still human beings and non-combatant civilians, men, women, youths, children, and babies being permanently mutilated and maimed for life or otherwise killed and their entire families killed and seem to have no option but to be continuously harmed and killed, while those who speak out against it are fired from their positions or censured and silenced and persecuted. This is like the stuff we've heard about happening to Christians in times past, so I think it might make for a useful topic to cover for a lot of people and I'm interested in seeing what your official positions and thoughts may be, as well as highlighting those of others in positions of authority, it might help a lot of people to figure out what they themselves can do, if there is any proactive measure that seems right to take in order to help.
Dear Father Casey Cole: Where is the Cross for each one of us, humankind? I respect any personal circumstance, and the Truth is not very easy to digest. I remember Saint Augustine of Hippo, he struggled to get to life in the Truth, but he managed to do so finally. Best regards from Peru, South America.
Thank you for making this video
God bless you father and God bless the whole world. Especially, God bless those in great need of his help. ❤
Thank you father for the explanation. You have made it clear for us.
Clear but it contradicts what the scripture teaches
@@pedroviaud1119 am a divine mercy devotee, Jesus welcomes all of us even the worst sinner to draw on or make use of the undrying ocean of his mercy. By a blessing one or more of these sauls can be saved. There manythings we belive but are not bibilical but true. Pray for them.
Thank you so very much ,,I was a little disturbed,no I was a lot disturbed!!!!! ,until I lessened to your explanation. I have to go over it just for clarification but ,,,I do understand mercy.
This is insightful and understandable!