My honest opinion as a christian guy dealing with same sex attraction . He should have not married. but I do understand the circumstances he was in making that decision. In the end we all as human beings should take accountability for our own decisions, because GOD is the only one able to judge us as believers. My fullness of my identity is not for me nor humans to deside what I am... it is only God who can do that. And God says (Romans 8:17) we are sons and daughters we are heirs of the Kingdom of God. My sexual orientation is NOT my identity, my true identity is far beyond that. And for the sake of a healthy fear of God I choose to live a celebate life, because it honours the word of God, it honours my fellow believers and it honours my body which is the temple of God. This is a personal decision formed by my own experience, not forced by any religion or peer pressure. All I hope is that all believers find peace , hope , freedom and Love in Christ.
Taking away the elaborate supernatural infrastructure that you've fabricated to justify avoiding doing what's necessary to ultimately resolve the issue you're dealing with, the decision to lead a celibate life may seem to be a less worthy endeavour than you've made it out to be in this "protesteth too much" testimonial.
@jacegil God did not make you that way. The fall of mankind did! If you blame anyone it should be Adam and Eve and don't forget Satan! God does love you just the way you are, if he didn't he would not offer you the FREE gift of salvation and eternal life. Life is short , eternity is forever.
This documentary changed my life. I am a 16 year old and was previously a catholic. I was struggling finding acceptance in the church being gay. When I discovered the Anglican Church through this documentary, which is very similar to Catholicism with the exception of it being affirming of lgbt rights, I felt something shift. I finally found acceptance with my Christian Faith and coexisting with my sexuality. When I turn 18 in 2021 I plan on fully converting to Anglicanism. Thank you Pip for changing my life, your story helped me finally be at peace
Hi my sister! I am not part of the lgbt community but I want you to know that God loves you and I support you! I was also previously Roman Catholic but I felt unaccepted there as a person of a minority so I somewhat understand the pain but not to the extent you felt it probably. God bless you
Please if you are serious about it, I encourage you to go to confession and learn what the church really teaches about homosexuality. You may have a misunderstanding o what the human is and how the church is involved with the salvation of souls. Know that you are called to be a saint, that is more than our natural state. You cannot ignore that the catholic church is the only church our Lord founded, be serious on your discernment. I am praying for you!
God makes us, guides us and loves us! Being Christian and being Gay is totally compatible. Listen to the words and love of Jesus, not the interpretations of men and if need be find the right congregation that accepts you for you. Don’t let others guilt you or bring you down, live in love and peace.
I hope you reconsider your conversion and your faith. Believe in God because God exists. Believing in God because it fits conveniently with who you want to have sex with is an illegitimate reason for faith. It's no different than sales people who join a church so they can try to turn the congregation into customers. It's unethical. If God exists then God exists and if God does not exist then God does not exist. God's existence does not depend on your sexuality. Please don't deceive honest believers into thinking you're a brother Christian who has genuine faith when your faith actually rests on who you're sexually attracted to
I need to say... his wife (or ex-wife, whatever) is such an amazing human being! kudos to her for allowing the space, and for being so understanding instead of being upset!
I’m sure she has many feelings but she comes across as the type of woman to handle things logically and with empathy. She is a strong woman and a beautiful soul.
Yes...he is Happy....you can see it in his face. ....somehow its Not the same with her..... I hope that Pip n his new partner finds & helps Kris get her Happiness apart from their two sons. Id love to be a part of this Church....A Church of God that Loves me n Who i Am.
@@drew0909 I suspect there is more projection than reading. She has to have had nearly as difficult a path being duped into that false narrative that Evangelicalism pushes but doesn't deliver. She has been victimized by Evangelicalism in a similar way as he was.
Pip's description of his efforts to change his orientation through prayer and Bible reading sends chills down my spine - that was my path too, and I remember wondering why everyone else were heterosexual for free while, for some reason, something was wrong with me. Thank you for having the courage of telling this story.
I remember utterly pointless it was to pray for it to go away. We all did it when adolescence came. God was either incapable or unwilling to make me a heterosexual. Either way it was so wonderful to embrace honesty.
"For some strange reason, the church could ruin just about everything for us, but that they couldn't take our real experience of the divine." Whether you are LGBTQI+ or not, God loves EVERYBODY whether you like it or not!! Amen.
God loves everybody. How exactly does He do that? And where do you get this idea that God loves everybody. You seem to know Him. Or maybe you think you know Him. Your comment doesn't say much, honestly.
I'm a non-believer who, as a boy, sang in a church choir but can't remember ever believing that there was a God, especially given the terrible things that were being done in his name and despite him supposedly looking over and out for everyone. If so, why do so many in the world suffer incredible misfortunes and mistreatment. The teachings of 'God' in all faiths is based on love, forgiveness, understanding, acceptance, tolerance, and inclusion. The problem is that those people responsible for the formation and oversight of the various religious 'organisations' base their beliefs, not on the 'word of God' but on their personal prejudices and this is reflected in the uncompromising attitudes of these religions. They cast out those who do not fit their idea of what is their interpretation of their 'God's word'. After all, religious books which tell you how to behave and think were written predominently by men based on their prejudices and experiences. If you believe in God, love your life as you believe your God would want for you and not as others interpret what you are meant to do.
This is a cautionary tale. If you're gay, accept yourself, your nature, and don't try this because you are involving others, will sooner or later have to admit defeat. Shame on anyone who tries to convince gay men that marriage is the cure.
I got married and had 3 children !! The Marriage was a complete Disaster.. After my Divorce I came out to my family.. And I've been happy ever since...
I like that they were such true friends, that this "love" enabled them to deal with this huge problem with compassion and empathy because they cared for each other that much. This is a truly sad yet beautiful story.
Such a powerful and moving documentary that breaks the shackles of the conservative evangelical movement ... What a breath of fresh air to feel God’s love and grace for all!
Why do you use Catholic symbols, ie., statues, rosaries, etc., when you are obviously not Catholic much less a Catholic priest? Any genuine message which this story tried to convey was swept away by these false pretenses. Which leaves one major conclusion to the storyline. That is, “Catholicism is bad, retrograde and does not accept “us”. Whomever that “us” may be. This story seems to be just another jab at Catholicism. Furthermore, regarding a statement made by the reverend. Something to the effect that the church should celebrate people. The Christian Church is not about celebrating people it is about worshipping God.
Here is England the Anglican church just look like Catholic churches they have the same traditions since they split in 1536. Same with the Orthadox here in England they Anglican church has a shrine of the Lady Of Walsingham in England.
Parts of this was hard to watch for personal reasons. This was a wonderful short doc and I wish each one of you the very best. Its amazing to have a place to develop your faith and someone to go home to.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw Which Christian religion are you? I'm Catholic, so should I say you're going to hell if you aren't, because some will. Should we listen to southern baptist, because they say they are the only way. I had stopped going to mass over 20 years ago, in the last 6 months I came back, because I realized I was there for God and not for others. God is about love, and I have a tough time believing and never will, that God would hold against me, the way he made me
@@Jukka70 The serpent whispers into Eves ear "Hath God said?" casting doubt on Gods Word. Eve eats of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In otherwords decides for herself what is good and evil. This continues even today especially when it comes to this issue. Jesus Christ is obedient unto death and sacrifices Himself. As Christians we are called to sacrifice according to Gods Word, not what the world decides. Sexual liberation is about political control.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw there are so many arguments about this, we could go for days. So I will just say this. You have done your job following what you believe to be right. I now say back ty. I still believe that God knows what he is doing. Saying once to us is to inform, to say it more is to judge, and God does love us all
This was a moment in time for both Pip and Kris to prove once again that God has no favorites. Their story is beautiful and nothing is more God like then the life they are living.
Joe Pepe there is nothing God like in the life he is living. The bible explicitly states homosexuality is wrong. You can search for a “church” that says your sin is ok, but you’re just fooling yourself.
Thank you so so much for covering this. I have just begun on my journey with Christ and being almost 20 and gay has been really scary. Not growing up that religious but very spiritual I have always felt a connection to something divine. Seeing a church which affirms my self-expression and interpretation of the scripture is so so powerful
@@LittleFrog09 Every single one of us sin but I don’t think a God who is so loving, generous and all knowing would create us in his image only to be condemned to a life of sin. There is some things we just don’t know but we all know how much God loves us through his son Jesus and like you said you can feel it. Don’t let anyone tell you he doesn’t love you
This 80 year old gay minister who also found a haven in the Anglican communion found your honest and sensitive testimony deeply moving and hopeful. God bless you and your ministry !!!👍
@@deanaburnham9571 The Worldwide Anglican Communion is composed of a lot of Provinces. One of those Provinces is the Episcopal Church, which is centered in the US. Another Province is the Anglican Church of Canada. This Priest is a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. The Mother Province of the Worlwide Anglican Communion is the Church of England. If people will notice, this documentary was made by the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
Ms Burnham: Thanks for your clarification, which may help some persons understand this video and my use of terms; as I was aware of the film's Canadian origin, and I am of USA Methodist / Episcopalian origin, thus the more general terminology. As you no doubt recognize, one can't easily get all the background into. a single comment, so I am most grateful for your clarifying addition.
What an amazing wife and mother he has in Chris! Major props to her for being so open and forward thinking and unconditional in her love and support of her partner.
A second thanks for your courage and compassion in posting this video. It has brought out a great deal of support for your insight into Christian compassion and pilgrimage, as well as "outing" a lot of ugly and mediaeval bigotry. I pray that all of your lives -- as God wishes, are evolving for you happily, and that your priesthood is prospering. (From the 80 year old gay priest) GOD BLESS AND GUIDE YOU 👍👍 !!!
@@thug588: And you obviously have failed to learn anything from its hero, Jesus Christ. No wonder you go by the name "thug" !! How singularly appropriate!!!
Quran, Muslim, and Christian bible all condemn homosexuality as an abomination. I will pray for both of us to repent. I also need repentance for my sins.
I watched this one twice. The children in this family are growing up in such a loving environment. Even though I am an atheist I would absolutely attend this church just for the community. Thank-you for this one
Nicolle Olafson your an atheist and would go to a church, why?are you going to explain to these people that they are following in a manner inconsistent with the evidence? I mean, you place everything on evidence, right. Then go and explain to these people that their views do no align with the Law of both the Old and New Testaments. You should be able to agree with that statement.
@@mikazofstrum3268 Where is your husband? 1 Timothy 2:12 is pretty clear on the subject of speaking out against men - and the priest you continually rage against *is* a man. Where is your husband? Why are you breaking your own Biblical law?
E T well I think you assume you are interpreting 1Timothy correctly, obviously out of context and with the eyes of a modernist. Well, try if you can, to imagine the context of this letter from Paul. If you read the interpretations from the Catholic Bishops or Orthodox Bishops ( those with authority from Christ to interpret these passages), you will see that this refers to either a rebuke of a specific case in the Ephesian church and the establishment of proper conduct. Men are to conduct themselves with honesty and without judgement. Women are to learn in a peaceful manner without quarrel. Both men and women are warned against displaying the arrogance of Eve. Now, you make two errors in your argument. One, you mistake Paul’s instruction to a specific situation, for a universal teaching or code of conduct. To be able to ascertain Paul’s overall message, you have to see what Paul’s total message is. Remember Paul also states the “we are all one in Christ.” Two, your rebuttal to my argument is invalid. This is because my argument states that one must be consistent with Christian teaching to call yourself a Christian, which the subject of the video fails to be. You establish a red herring by comparing my apparent lack of adherence to Christian teaching to my claim regarding this video. This still does not address the content of my argument. Let me help you. You could be valid if you questioned whether or not Christianity actually teaches the doctrine that practicing homosexuality is sinful. That would force me to prove the point. Question my adherence to the faith does not do this validly.
Thanku for sharing your story, it brought me to tears.I have been to churches and never felt safe and wanted.Thanks to u lam going to check out my local Angolan Church, and see there view on Gay people.Again Thanku.😁😁
whats so wonderful about a story that maybe told with eloquence, panache and yes emotions-analyze the dynamics of the turmoil generated as a result of the choice he made-so much complex confusion for those young children and the wife
Amazing...this is both my and my brothers story. We are both Christian, married to men, in ministry, and in our 70's. My brothers ex-wife is still his best friend and I still consider her my sister. they are still a family in raising their children and grandchildren. It does get better, especially when we learn to be open to Gods mercy, grace, and love.
@Tiger Lilly your past seems to haunt you....maybe your husband left you for another man because you were incapible to perform your duties ----- Dont Blame God for that by using Him as a Shield Don't Blame Pip in this video ..for he has found Happiness n you Havent. Dont Blame the Homosexuals for your Unhappiness. BLAME IT ALL ON YOURSELF - YOUR CHOICES , YOUR ACTIONS N YOUR WORDS. ....no one else is the cause of this state youre in but YOURSELF. Do you now understand Devil in Sheeps Clothing or is it appropriate to say " Devil in Tigers' Clothing " 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Try n have a Blessed time.
@@aiseakonrote5381 And what do you think Jesus meant when He send His disciples, including today's Christians, to go and preach the Good News, set the captives free? Stop hiding behind "do not judge" to justify the promotion of sin, because this is exactly what this video and this testimony is about.
@@aiseakonrote5381 Can you guess who said this: Be Holy as Your Father in Heaven. I am eager to hear what you respond to the author of this command, because you seem to be violently allergic to the idea of someone reminding their fellow believers that this is what God is calling them to be.
@@habibak.6234 just because you're envious of the Happiness shown in this video - you rant off your phobic feelings. Keep ranting - Pip will always be Happy n others as well as me......n hopefully you too. Cheers...Try n have a Blessed vision.😊😊
God loves you the way you are. Don't fall for the negative sides, keep praying to god, and keep working on your life; and most important, your relationship with God.
Human effort could never match the righteousness of God. That is the reason Jesus died in our stead - that is why God's grace is invaluable. And Jesus Christ understands that we are not infallible. Anyone trying to say that there are people who are not worthy of the love of Jesus Christ are just modern-day Pharisees. Not even they in all their Mosaic Law & order were exempt from needing forgiveness from God through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. For ALL have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. Christ came to call the sick & the unloved that they may experience the mercy of God. 💛
@@gregs3220 Matthew 7:1 - 2 For as you judge, so you will be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be used against you. 1 John 1: 8 If we say "We are without sin," we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
This was just so beautifu to see the story unfold. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect as this progressed. But a fantastic and fabulous wonderful outcome. So moving.
Phil Lynch THe Spirit will guide us into all truth. The ancient Tradition of the Church is the the Spirit leads us by guiding the decisions of the community of faith: the bishops, priests, deacons, and laity who prayerfully meet in faith to discuss issues and listen for the guidance of the Spirit. The idea that anyone at all can read the Bible and whatever’s written there is the way things have to be is a relatively modern invention, developed by the Protestant reformers when they threw out the faith as it had existed for 1500 years and reinvented everything. Modern Evangelical Protestantism is a human invention, a radical reinterpretation of Christianity, and because of that, it has led to the reappearance of all the old heresies.
Wf Coaker if you are suggesting that God’s word can change, you are gravely mistaken. God is eternal. That means His word and actions are forever. Any reinterpretation is heresy. Both the Old and New testaments confirm homosexuality is a grave sin. We don’t get to reinterpret this. Remember Jesus said He came to reaffirm the law not abrogate it.
THE SINS THAT CRY TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE 5 . They called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to your house tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intimacies with them." 6 . Lot went out to meet them at the entrance. When he had shut the door behind him, 7 . he said, "I beg you, my brothers, not to do this wicked thing. 8 . I have two daughters who have never had intercourse with men. Let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you please. But don't do anything to these men, for you know they have come under the shelter of my roof." 9 . They replied, "Stand back! This fellow," they sneered, "came here as an immigrant, and now he dares to give orders! We'll treat you worse than them!" With that, they pressed hard against Lot, moving in closer to break down the door. 10 . But his guests put out their hands, pulled Lot inside with them, and closed the door; 11 . at the same time they struck the men at the entrance of the house, one and all, with such a blinding light that they were utterly unable to reach the doorway. 12 . Then the angels said to Lot: "Who else belongs to you here? Your sons (sons-in-law) and your daughters and all who belong to you in the city - take them away from it! 13 . We are about to destroy this place, for the outcry reaching the LORD against those in the city is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." -- Genesis 19:5 - 13 True friends don't let friends get sodomized!
@@StevenWaling Leviticus 18:22-25 Amplified Bible (AMP) You shall not lie [intimately] with a male as one lies with a female; it is repulsive. [1 Cor 6:9, 10] You shall not have intimate relations with any animal to be defiled with it; nor shall a woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion. ‘Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled. For the land has become defiled; therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants.
I’m a SSA young man convert to Catholicism and I must say that though my sexuality is part of who I am, it is not the core of my identity. As a religious person my identity is first with Our Lord Jesus and His Church. I encourage anyone who wants to know the actual stance of the Catholic Church on homosexuals to read the Catechism or to hear talks which are available in this video platform given by Fr. Mike Schmitz.
I am aware that the video is not directly related to the Catholic Church. I just wanted to show another point of view from a religious person who is SSA. Also the fact that the person went to a congregation merely for their acceptance of his sexuality in my opinion is not a good sign. I converted from a church who could have accepted this behavior to the Church who teaches otherwise. I converted because I had to surrender to what had been revealed to me. The Most Holy Sacrament. It should be said that according to the Church beings SSA is not a sin itself though acting on it is. God bless you.
Schmitz tells people Catholics aren’t allowed to even go to gay weddings as guests. This from a man whose brother is gay. I used to think this was pettiness but this is a deep deep sickness in many Catholics. On this issue the church is unnaturally disordered and must repent of its mortal sin. Many of the hierarchy will burn.
Pip has gone through real pain. He obviously missed some critical male bonding when he was young. But he and his ex-wife are very confused and are causing much damage to themselves and others.Example 1The fact of a man craving his wife is NOT about objectifying her. Married sex between man and wife is about mutual self-giving where two literally become one. It is an icon of the Trinity. It is so precious to God that He enables the couple to become co-creators.That is NEVER possible with same-sex couples.Example 2While God may operate in unexpected ways, He NEVER contradicts Himself. He has an established order that humans are duty bound to abide by.What He wants from us is simple: that we love Him back and abide in His will. That's it.What He wants is for us to do these things so we can get to our true home, the one He has prepared for us. Don't trade the eternal banquet that is our true inheritance for the temporary potato chips of this world.
God loves all of his creation, but our sin separates us from God. He is calling us daily to repentance, turning from our sin and being back in communion with Him. We all struggle daily, but it's worth it!
Daryle Harris I am curious, how can you say this given the fact that both the Old and New Testaments confirms that homosexuality is a grave sin. You encourage this behavior despite what God says? His burden is great, yes, but loving God means obeying His commandments.
Peace with one's " own self" , as my kids said when they were little, and love for our fellow humans is actually like a rainbow .... emotional, beautiful, natural and light ... I hope you're all having a great time!
Truely agonizing story and beautiful at the same time which is going on everyday for many of us.It would be really nice and happier moment if every story of such struggles becomes same like this mesmerizing live story...
Brilliant. I think it's about time now that people should stop hiding their fear by hiding behind what should be a totally inclusive church. God bless you.
A biblical evangelical preaches the good news that God loves all of God’s creation. This video shows true evangelism: the surety of God’s mercy and compassion. Thank you for sharing this story. God bless you all.
I read it in Hebrew and Greek. As a Baptist, my faith is grounded in Jesus/the gospels; all the rest is commentary to be read and understood in the context of the ministry of Jesus. Both Jesus and Paul warn against false prophets of which they are as many now as then. Read the first Chapter of John in Greek; it really opened my heart. I also follow what Jesus says about about Sodom.
Matthew 7:13-15 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Tell that to the churches that condemn us, cause shame for us, cause depression for us, cause non-acceptance of ourselves even as good people, cause us to commit suicide.............all religions are just "bad stories" and are sin themselves - they promote duality, polarization, wars and hatred. We don't need religions to be good, king, loving, wonderful, accepting people. Find spirit in any way other than religion - religion tells lies to people and stories that never happened. Nature and animals don't lie.
@@brendongross4119- take care of that log in your eye before you going around sticking your finger in someone else's eye. You have no authority to decide what is or is not the word of any god.
Please stop using the term 'queer' to describe gay people. I know some people like the term, but there are many who do not like to be called queer. It's like using the N word to describe black people in general, just because some black people have adopted the term for themselves.
I really think that society as a whole has to wake up to the fact that we are and we are not going away any time soon, I am proud of who I am and I have no regrets what so ever as to what I am, I have this life from the age of 15 years and now at the age of 77 I can say without any regrets that I am a very happy person happily married to a wonderful man whom I have been with for almost 27 years. As for this documentary, I am very very proud of you as a man of the cloth you have opened your heart to a very loving wife and your new husband and that you have two wonderful children also this is amazing and all that I can say is God bless you and family.
Do not go to church, because you do not want to do the will of God. Continue as you do, but your lifestyle is ungodly. The scriptures say that all immoral people will end up in the Lake of Fire. Or repent, and sin no more.
@@klarissaclairiton9010 Sacred Scripture, both in the Old and New Testament forbids homosexual acts, unchastity, adultery, masturbation, lewd acts. God's already passed judgement on these actions. Barrack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Mario Cummo and all the other worldly politicians who will say and do anything for your vote ...they aren't God.
Yes, Elmer, so do I. She💐 courageously went into this marriage knowing the risk; but it must still be hard for her, and she shows even greater courage and compassion in accepting and publishing it's outcome. So, yes; if she wishes to find love in another partner, I heartily wish her the best ! God bless her !!!!
Kris is the most unselfish woman I’ve seen. Having said that, it’s not what she says that convinced me that she’s happy but what she doesn’t say between the lines that make me wonder whether she’s (really) happy with the situation. Pip became very queer asa he talked to Ms Drag, which shows he’s still performing ... I don’t understand why people choose to be in an environment we’re 90% of the Congregation disagrees with their lifestyle. Religion is a cancer, a confirmative pit hole of sorrow and make-believe. The fact that Pip was asked to leave his church and lost most of his friends should’ve been an eye-opener. Then again, it’s his life and he can do with it what he wants, asa he doesn’t hurt anyone around him.
Marcus NL I disagree. He has most certainly hurt his wife. Sure, she’s trying to remain positive and be supportive. Who wouldn’t like to hear all the positive comments about themselves as evidenced here? But one day she will be honest with herself and Pip and admit how unhappy she is.
This story is so heart breaking. I am a believer and even though I would not be able to say that gay marriage is okay, I do believe that everyone should be allowed in church. The bible says that every sin is equal so if we don't allow every sinner into church, what kind of church are we? We all have fallen short of the glory of God and we are called to love God first and everyone else too. How could anyone be denied the love of God and be called to repentance if they are shunned when they are seeking God? I love that the church truly has a "Come as you are" attitude. In that respect, I agree.
@@wendymitchell8245 I went to church before I was a Christian. I was invited by a good friend and I eventually repented. You can blame the church all you want but at the end of the day, we all have a choice. It is our own choices that we will be responsible for in the end...not what others have done.
Not every sin is equal. Some are worse. You wouldn't consider lying to be as bad as adultery, or saying something insulting to be as bad as killing someone.
I wish you the best! As an Anglican I am proud the people like you are opening the doors of walking with Christ. I am thankful for The Right Reverend Gene Robinson for standing tall during very tough times. Blessings, David +
I wish I can find your church and worship in it. I was a Roman Catholic and I am disappointed with our stupid clerics who do not see Christ in you. I am church-orphaned now and the closest rite to me is Anglican.
Shankarees So Christ is queer? Jesus tells us; “ for those who wish to be my disciple must deny himself and take up his cross daily.” Is there self- denial in being a practicing homosexual?
If you’re looking for a church, read your Bible, then find a church that preaches it. If the church does not follow the teachings in the Bible, they are doing it for their own gain.
Elly Claire You are wrong. The Apostolic Church (Catholic and Orthodox) decided for you what the Bible is and if you do not belong to either Church, you are not a Christian but a heretic and should burn in hell.
“Coming out cost me family and all of my friends.” That was such a difficult thing to hear. The harm done in the name of Faith by those who profess the Love of God should seriously listen to this documentary. I am, however, so glad that from suffering came such a wonderful metamorphosis.
Simon Jenner don’t confuse harm with love. Harm would encourage someone to continue in sin. Love is turning someone to God so they avoid eternal damnation. Is that what you meant?
Thanks Simon! Pip and I are creating content on a new RUclips channel, if you're interested in queer spirituality, emotional wellbeing and support, check us out :)
The question is, has he ever sought delievrance from this oppression?? Many have been delivered from the same. Many! There are many deliverance ministries who go to the source of the problem and the person is freed from the oppression. This is not a natural condition, but spiritual in origin !!! Those who sought spiritual help found it, instead of trying to deal with it on their own in their own way, which is a futile exercise; and being angry at someone else. This is a result of spiritual oppression, evil spirits. Spirits prowl about this world seeking whom they make devour, when they find an opening any where any how, they enter, and stay, and invite more as they desire. Deliverance help is available from those who know how to deal with such matters.
Sorry, but all this crap about the "spirits" and such is utter rubbish and your claims about people being "delivered" is dangerous nonsense. The "oppression" this fellow was suffering from was the reaction to his religious upbringing and the intolerant views of others, not due to prowling spirits seeking to "devour" him.
@@MRayner59 You so obviously have no clue about anything!!! You live and and walk with your eyes blind, your ears shut, your mind closed & your heart hard as a rock; yet you think you know it all!!! When did religion & upbringing become a thing to react to?? If that is the case why haven't all these, psycho.... whatever man made therapies that he is said to have consulted, not been able to help him with his problem? Oh, I see, it's better for him to live a lie & be pretentious about his life than for him to face the issue head on & get rid of it. Don't be a fool Mr!!!!
@@victory2213 I think it is you who is the fool. Deliverance ministries are ineffective... a person may delude themselves that they have been 'healed' or what have you... but it is shown over and over that their deeply embedded and completely autonomous sexual orientation cannot be changed... it can be suppressed.. I'll give you that, but that is a shell of a person... living in misery...but hiding it because of the shame and stigma people like you heap on them. Many... many of these people can't 'stick' with this as their natural selves forces it out of them... they cannot live a lie...especially when they are lying to themselves. Many will go so far to commit suicide, rather than live an empty lonely miserable life.. but I assume you think that is better... Jesus did not say ONE thing about homosexuality... it was our friendly misogynist and homophobe Paul who did most of the ranting against women and gays in the NT.. since when is PAUL the authority... someone who never even met Jesus... ?? Jesus ate with the lepers and the downtrodden and the sex workers etc... he wanted them to come to him and be of the body... yet you 'self-righteous and sanctimonious' xitans believe you know better and judge others... look to your own sins, woman... and leave others to their god... if you believe his is omnipotent etc... he doesn't need a pissant like you doing his work for him... hypocrite.
"There is virtually no reliable evidence that sexual orientation can be changed and medical bodies warn that conversion therapy practices are ineffective and potentially harmful. " -- conversion therapy, wikipedia "National health organizations in the United States have announced that there has been no scientific demonstration of conversion therapy's efficacy in the last forty years. They find that conversion therapy is ineffective, risky and can be harmful. Anecdotal claims of cures are counterbalanced by assertions of harm, and the American Psychiatric Association, for example, cautions ethical practitioners under the Hippocratic oath to do no harm and to refrain from attempts at conversion therapy." -- Conversion Therapy, wikipedia
@@namelessrose3859 It's called faith. And also, how to you think we got here? Do you really thing that all of this can come from nothing? Look around you. Look at how complicated but wonderful the human body is. All of the atoms that make up everything around us. The wonder of nature, all of the beautiful stars in the night sky, galaxies away. You believe that those were created randomly through an explosion from nothing? Our world is so delicate and complex, something like that can only be created. Planned out, and hand crafted. Something can't just come from nothing.
I'm so happy to see he's found the right path for his life. Now he can have the happiness as it should be and has hid faith. It's a beautiful thing and as it should be.
so this according to u is the right path? Marrying a woman-divorcing her-marrying a man and all 3 under one roof- as the man warms up and cuddles another man and the woman is left to nurse her wounds,all under the same roof
@@zulkifal111 What part did you get that they were all living under the same roof. I certainly missed that part. And even if so, that is their choice to do it. Their lives are not yours or mine. Living expenses are not cheap. And wirh staggered pay ans increasing cost, it becomes a survival thing. Can't say that this President is making anything easier for the non-rich.
I hope this incredible young man reads this msg. You are loved, and God would NEVER, EVER turn his back on you OR place conditions on his love for you. I am so happy you were able to finally live and enjoy your truth and what an incredible, loving and honourable Steward you are…Equality, Peace and Love to you and your beautiful family 😘😘
I'm gay and I understand how you cannot change if God does not change you. Just based on what I saw I can assume that the love he found seems good, but the church seems to cater to homosexuality instead of Jesus. I mean, there's a man dressed in women's clothing. Church is not a drag bar, it's a place to listen to the word of God, worship and pray. Seems like a circus to me.
@@gregs3220 Please tell me where that is written in the bible? You can't because it's not in there. All we have to go by is the bible. When you start changing it you're deep in deceit. The only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ. That is in the bible.
@@gregs3220Where does it say we need more than the Word of God?There we can read how to be saved, how to be a disciple of Christ, and we use the Word to teach eachother and be the Church. Your first question is answerd by 1 john: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. John 1:1, 3-4 NKJV II Tim 3:16 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. II Timothy 3:15-17 NKJV But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men. Acts 5:29 NKJV Second statement: it is written that people in the flesh can not please God (romans 8:8), not people who have no faith. By faith you are saved, but by what kind of faith is written in hebrews 11. And your statement that without the priest: no authority. Where does it say that? Yes God uses apostles to help built churches, but apostles are still part of the body of Christ and not more than any other human being. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19 NKJV Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you. Titus 2:15 NKJV Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. Luke 9:1 NKJV not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. II Thessalonians 3:9 NKJV We are the temple of Christ, the body of Christ. Not a building. We can use a building to come together and celebrate was God does in is, but it is not the place where He dwells: Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. Ephesians 2:19-22 NKJV
It follows from his own discovery of freedom in Jesus, that he would have wanted her to have a loving relationship of her own. However, it is quite possible that the love of her small children is enough to satisfy het at this stage. I'm sure many mothers would agree.
@@altavosloo9415 My impression is that the two men in this documentary will accept and support her in her relationship when or if she ever decides to include a spouse into her and their lives.
The Bible was written by men, to suit mankind living more than 1500 years ago. The fact Christianity has survived till now is surprising in the light of science. We now know It took hundreds of millions of years to create the world we live in. We can trace "creation" by dating rocks and fossils: from the early ammonites, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles and then mammals. It took apes 2-3 million years to become "man" as we know it. We knew none of this when we listened to Jesus and saw him crucified. God never told us the evolution story. It then took 300 years to write the Bible (on an estimated 360 calf skins for the first edition). It would have been rewritten and corrected many times in the process - improved and adjusted by a plethora of "wise men" with changing ideas, interpretations, special needs and diverse cultures (but with no science/psychology knowledge). The fact the Bible survived till now with all its naivete speaks more about people's psychological need for comfort, hope, direction and a reason for being, than it does the Truth. Remember, it was written before man discovered that Earth was round, or that ours is one of thousands of universes. So in that knowledge vacuum, the Intelligent Design theory hinges on Adam and Eve who had four sons (no daughters) three of whom found wives (perhaps their mother). And later, other improbable yarns like the one involving Noah and his Ark. Jesus and the apostles obviously didn't know about evolution otherwise the Bible would have given God credit for it. In fact, God could have explained a lot of things through Jesus (including that many animals are naturally attracted to the same sex and that it is impossible to change their orientation). Too late now. The Bible "cannot be changed to suit man", so we must interpret it. Islam has a similar problem. The Koran advocates stoning homosexuals to death but in a poll of Muslims in London recently 30% disagreed. Similarly, Christian Fundamentalists won't let anyone queer their pitch. It's hellfire for all homosexuals and the Devil is in charge of it. The Catholics kicked Pip out as if he was a philistine. Understandable given the "One True Church's" reputation. However, a more pragmatic brotherhood, the acute Anglicans, who must have put the Bible's thesis up for queer review, noticed a few anomalies and decided to let Nature take its course. They hired Pip and made him a priest. For all the gay Christians or parents of gay or transgender children out there, I can hear them now: Praise the Pragmatists.
Sean Livingston I’m not sure if you’re joking, but obviously it is, what makes men better pastors than women? Also there’s many religions with female preachers/priests get with the times
I am an ex-gay person. I suffered more with my gay peers and I learned a lot. I gave my burden to God. I am not interested in being with a man and getting married to one not to mention having children. However, I do love my gay brothers and sisters. It doesn't feel right to me so I decided to create new relationships with other people and started an online business.
You my dear are perfect in showing how God is your First Love!!!!! Christ will give you millions of crowns to throw at The Father feet on that glorious day !!!! That will be where I will watch your love for our creator and Celebrate with Christ !!!
@@unnikutta6514Okay, but in that case, he's probably more conservative/reactionary than the usual Catholic, traditionally homophobic, so why is he watching this?
Juan Vélez Not always, a lot of these schismatic groups are actually very liberal. Some of them ordain women “priests”, and approve of homosexuality. The OSJV, I know nothing about.
Alys, you are so not alone. Try to find a loving progressive church where you feel safe. The Anglican church has been striving to be that. In our community it is the bastion of Christ's radical love for people of all backgrounds.
@@breny3 i do not wish to live according to my orientation. ..i am catholic and want to submit to the church's teaching and scripture....but it just helped to hear of another person's struggle to be the spouse they wanted to be because of their orientation. I love my husband dearly but fail him daily because i cannot give him the physical intimacy he desires because of the ptsd and selfhatred that arises if i do. I grieve deeply for not being good enough. To know I'm not alone in that gives me comfort to my soul.
Forget Catholicism, it’s teachings are pagan. Get yourself a bible and read the New Testament, ask god to help you understand it and give you wisdom. God completely transformed my life by simply reading the bible and praying everyday. I suffered with severe depression / anxiety for 25 years. God healed me completely after 2 months of praying and reading. God also showed me sins I needed to repent of. Once I decided to get rid of sin in my life that’s when things really started to get better. Don’t despair. Jesus loves you and is waiting for you to cry out to him. Let him transform your life.
@Stacy Caruso where does it say that celibacy is the only solution? Isn't in the bible that we should repent, be baptised and recieve the Holy Spirit? Because we are slaves of sin, and through baptism we become free from sin, we rise up IN Christ and the Holy Spirit will help us to silence our flesh and do the things according to Gods will? So we can be free?
@Stacy Caruso Excuse me. You are accepting words from a book , written 3-5 thousand years ago by a Jew, meant to be a ' guideline ' for the Jewish people. Regardless...these words ...whichever you all refer to...have been rewritten way too many time and adopted into the Christian Bible. We are all children of God , a benovelent God . How could a father condem his child, son ,to eternal damnation for loving another man when they both remain faithful to their God. God is Love, God wants us to Love . ' Live and let live '...' judge not lest ye be judged ' ... and if you have not sinned you are welcome to ' cast the first stone '. Just my humble thoughts, not looking for a fight. God bless.
I know two lovely young women who married gay Christian men who claimed they were "cured". Both of these women are now divorced and devastated because the love of their life did not and cannot stop their attraction for men. You do not want your daughters to go through this, I am speaking from experience...
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Not many things make me cry, I'm 66 and never been in love, I never allowed myself the luxuray for even believing that's it's possible, I'm glad Some still do find a way .......
That's so tragic. Everybody deserves the pure joy, the feeling of butterflies in your stomach and the fierce protectiveness that comes with being in love. It is still possible, even at your age, if you'd only just believe it it is and then actively search for it. Believe! xx
I was raised in a conservative Roman Catholic home. I knew I was gay from an early age. I stuffed it. I got married to a woman hoping it would "fix" me. It didn't work. I have been with my husband for 25 years. I have never been happier. I will never set foot in a church again.
Very nice what a uplifting message for us all. What a model you are for all the young men who need someone to lookup too. My days are coming to an end but you gave me something to hope for tomorrow. May God YAHWEH an YESHUA bless you and all yours.
Understand. Completely. Done the journey. 33 years ago. Found Christ 37 years ago. Or more - He found me. Even more so now - I have Him and He is so - SO clear He has me. On the day I came to faith - at this new place called church - I said to them - but I guess you guys don't approve of homosexuality? Then. Great days of discovery. And everything was - of course possible. And marriage. God was in charge. And the church would help me through. Until the 'therapy' and healing - didn't bring change. And that day - eight years into marriage when my wife turned to me in my 'counselled to death self' - and said - 'if I can't have a husband I must have children'. By the mercy of God - we were to fail at that. The IVF failed. Thank God. And then I said - no more. I am gay - and I must accept that - come what may - even though you cannot. I gave my wife everything we had. House - everything. Found a room. Church removed me from all ministry. No one would talk to me. It is still against the rule of that church - ie therapy is offered. So. Separated. Divorced. Utterly broken. But a friend invited me to a group of Christians coming out - coming out of ex-gay - and just looking to Jesus. That was enough. IE - Jesus was 'enough'. He is. I have a new life. With a partner of 16 years now. We are happy. I haven't a church because I no longer live in the UK. But I have God - and the Holy Spirit just won't let up on me - us. He is faihful - when I am faithless. What we have needed - even when it seemed absolutely impossible - it has been given. Miraculously. Like a house. Even. When I had no money to afford it. But most of all - I have God. He is enough. Entirely. Abundantly. John 10:10. Hold fast to Christ. Don't be discouraged. Yes 'church' will fail. But faith. And hope. But the greatest - of course - is Love.
Ewww. Can we leave Paul out of this. He was a crazy person who lived 50 years after Jesus and the disciples and is only remembered because of his education, Roman citizenship, and prolific correspondence. He made up everything he wrote.
@@billcullum01 Thank you for your comment. To put it simply, he's saying, "Who am I, the pot, to ask the potter, why did you make me this way"? I find this perfectly logical.
Of course this video is going to raise controversy. Christianity and homosexuality reconciled? In the past, when I heard negatives comments about homosexuality, I usually remained silent. Not now. If you are NOT homosexual, why don't you invest your time and energy in something more productive rather than playing the role of God, quoting the Bible and judging other people. Does it make you feel more powerful and better than others ? Now, if you ARE homosexual or have someone near you who is, probably you need reassurance, love and inner peace or help. Some have lived most of their lives in shame and guilt. A horrible burden. And that hasn't help them to fix the problem. To find a community that is supportive is important, like the guy in this video. However, the bottom line is to find peace and acceptance inside ourselves. And believe that God somehow is going to make you live a life worth living.
His ex-wife is the real hero in this video. It is all because of her. He might suffer, but in the end, he got what he wanted. In the other hand, the wife has to make the sacrifices, and I do not see her playing the victim here and crying!
he has chosen the thorny path-much hardships are in store for him-unfortunately -i can see -life spares no one-life is hard and we pay a price for the smallest mistakes-he has committed big blunders -i do not wish him that-but in the process of seeking his own happiness he has hurt many
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. -1 Corinthians 6:9 Please repent and trust in Christ
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But your emotions can force you on a journey to question such truths and, ultimately, let you see through dogmas that are so obviously unreasonable that they simply cannot have their origin in an all-reasonable and all-loving entity.
Yes, I feel bad because some people will find out the hard way, and my heart breaks for them. God says not one jot or tittle of his word can be changed. Whether we view it as fair or not, it is unalterable.
Well, to each his own. Everyone is free to their own beliefs. No one is forced to love God. We all have free will. My point is that you can't have it both ways. If you are Christian, that means you believe the Bible and honor God's laws. No, you don't have to! But you can't say you're a Christian and break all of God's laws. That's like saying you are a virgin, but having sex. You can't ride the fence. Now you are free to choose parts of the Bible to follow, and have a spiritual journey, because you agree with some of the teachings. That's fine. But then you really can't logically call yourself a Christian, which is what he is doing.
@wmnoffaith1 Give me a break. All Christians pick and choose what they want to understand from the Bible. It's a gigantic collection of literature full of contradictions and almost infinite interpretations, whose six passages seemingly condemning homosexual behavior tend to become quite ambiguous when one reads them in historical context. We all know the famous examples from Leviticus (mixing fabrics, eating shellfish, etc.) that Christians feel they have the right to ignore, while happily citing the supposed prohibition of gay sex. Deuteronomy teaches that parents have the right to stone their disobedient children to death. Both the old and new testaments seemingly condone slavery. Now you might say, "Ah! But you have to read those passages in their historical context!" And I'd say, "yep, that's the point".
For the life of me, I don't understand why homosexuals act like they can't control themselves. I'm married but yet I'm still attracted to the opposite sex. It doesn't mean that I'm going to tell my spouse one day that I must leave you and live out my truth. I notice that someone is attractive, and I keep it moving. I don't lust after them, I don't fantasize about them, and I don't leave my spouse for them. I'm not a dog controlled by my every impulse. I'm a human being made in the image of God, granted self-control by the Holy Spirit.
Oh how arrogant to make onself the model of how others should live their life.... but then again, such arrogance is the very core of many religions. Your comment is nothing but self-serving pride.
@@princefrei Your comment is self-defeating. By judging me, you are doing exactly that... making "oneself" the model of how others should live their lives... and think. How arrogant of you!!!
@@janepatton8100 I maintain that most religions are used to puff up the egos of their followers. There is very little substance to validate any of the claims of the various belief-systems, therefore it is a moral duty to resist outlandish claims that some people are "bad" because they are gay. It simply isn't reasonable and what would an all-knowing, all-loving entity such as "God" be if not reasonable?
what makes u think the family has found peace-he may have found momentary pleasure-peace and pleasure are different-family implies the wife and children-scratch the surface there maybe a myriad of emotions beneath the calm stillness
I loved this entire video, although I felt very strong empathy for Kris, the baby's Mother (if I have her name correct). As far as wishing: I wish at the very end, Pip (the Priest) would have, as he held the Host, smiled, looked fulfilled and happy. And, it the small circles that were rising up in the field of black behind them, I wish they had been coming down, symbolizing Christ's body being available to all the people for whom He died and gave His life, rather than being lifted or taken up, away from the people. This is a tremendous video. I can think, immediately, of at least 2,500 people who I wish I could invite to sit down and watch it.
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I feel for this family, but I have to say nowhere in the Bible do I see Mary or Jesus advocating for their rights, for justice or for their happiness. Yes, God is love, but that love is sacrificial - it's not one that celebrates self-love and gratification. I know everyone is on their journey, and I hope that what I wrote is read with love, as it was intended.
Throughout the Bible, Gay people are referred to as eunuchs, naturally born eunuchs. Now, in Matthew 19 when Jesus is teaching about marriage, in verse 11 he said, "All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 "For there are some eunuchs, which were born so from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be some eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of Heaven's sake: He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
j8u2 I don’t think you know what a eunuch is... (hint: they’re missing essential pieces of their male anatomy). There are birth defects (intersex) where children are born without all their reproductive organs, and there were people who were made into eunuchs (usually slaves or servants in influential households)
@@ellyclaire1996 I'm not sure why you would assume that I don't know this. I have a Master's degree in social work, so I've had more classes on gender identity, human sexuality and human development than the average schmoe. I'm fully aware of what a eunich is and I'm fully aware that nobody in this documentary is a eunich, a hermaphrodite, or an intersexed individual. Not really sure what your point is other than perhaps assuming that you know these things and nobody else does, which of course is a false assumption
@@ellyclaire1996 I apologize Elly, I see that you were responding to someone who responded to my original comment and not me. He's not super off base by quoting this verse though, it's often used as the basis for Roman Catholic's vow of celibacy for priests - eunuchs not in a physical sense, but those who choose to be celibate for the sake of the kingdom.
The thing I noticed the most was the unconditional love. Too bad most churches I have attended have not been loving places and I am a straight older lady who needs fellowship.. I feel excluded in most churches. They have become money oriented and not Houses of prayer and restoration for broken people who need a savoir named Jesus! I am not saying I agree with what was presented in this video, but there was undeniably love there.
Mary Wolfe no! Love only exists when we are in grace with God. You mistakenly saw desire as love. There can be no love without God. And Jesus said to love God is to obey His Law. Pray for these people but don’t encourage their lifestyle.
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My honest opinion as a christian guy dealing with same sex attraction . He should have not married. but I do understand the circumstances he was in making that decision. In the end we all as human beings should take accountability for our own decisions, because GOD is the only one able to judge us as believers. My fullness of my identity is not for me nor humans to deside what I am... it is only God who can do that. And God says (Romans 8:17) we are sons and daughters we are heirs of the Kingdom of God. My sexual orientation is NOT my identity, my true identity is far beyond that. And for the sake of a healthy fear of God I choose to live a celebate life, because it honours the word of God, it honours my fellow believers and it honours my body which is the temple of God. This is a personal decision formed by my own experience, not forced by any religion or peer pressure. All I hope is that all believers find peace , hope , freedom and Love in Christ.
drew0909 your burden is great but great burdens forge great saints. God Bless you and your example.
Taking away the elaborate supernatural infrastructure that you've fabricated to justify avoiding doing what's necessary to ultimately resolve the issue you're dealing with, the decision to lead a celibate life may seem to be a less worthy endeavour than you've made it out to be in this "protesteth too much" testimonial.
Martin Rayner what do you suggest is the resolution?
Jesus shares His cross to His best friend. You carry your cross very well. No pain, no gain...no cross, no crown. Do not ever let go of Jesus.
@jacegil God did not make you that way. The fall of mankind did! If you blame anyone it should be Adam and Eve and don't forget Satan! God does love you just the way you are, if he didn't he would not offer you the FREE gift of salvation and eternal life. Life is short , eternity is forever.
This documentary changed my life. I am a 16 year old and was previously a catholic. I was struggling finding acceptance in the church being gay. When I discovered the Anglican Church through this documentary, which is very similar to Catholicism with the exception of it being affirming of lgbt rights, I felt something shift. I finally found acceptance with my Christian Faith and coexisting with my sexuality. When I turn 18 in 2021 I plan on fully converting to Anglicanism. Thank you Pip for changing my life, your story helped me finally be at peace
Hi my sister! I am not part of the lgbt community but I want you to know that God loves you and I support you! I was also previously Roman Catholic but I felt unaccepted there as a person of a minority so I somewhat understand the pain but not to the extent you felt it probably. God bless you
Please if you are serious about it, I encourage you to go to confession and learn what the church really teaches about homosexuality. You may have a misunderstanding o what the human is and how the church is involved with the salvation of souls. Know that you are called to be a saint, that is more than our natural state. You cannot ignore that the catholic church is the only church our Lord founded, be serious on your discernment. I am praying for you!
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God makes us, guides us and loves us! Being Christian and being Gay is totally compatible. Listen to the words and love of Jesus, not the interpretations of men and if need be find the right congregation that accepts you for you. Don’t let others guilt you or bring you down, live in love and peace.
I hope you reconsider your conversion and your faith. Believe in God because God exists. Believing in God because it fits conveniently with who you want to have sex with is an illegitimate reason for faith. It's no different than sales people who join a church so they can try to turn the congregation into customers. It's unethical. If God exists then God exists and if God does not exist then God does not exist. God's existence does not depend on your sexuality. Please don't deceive honest believers into thinking you're a brother Christian who has genuine faith when your faith actually rests on who you're sexually attracted to
I need to say... his wife (or ex-wife, whatever) is such an amazing human being! kudos to her for allowing the space, and for being so understanding instead of being upset!
I am an emotional person, and I do see in this video, her eyes, her distance, that she is not happy. May God grant her peace, joy and happiness.
I’m sure she has many feelings but she comes across as the type of woman to handle things logically and with empathy. She is a strong woman and a beautiful soul.
I feel sad for this family and will pray for them. Jesus Dining Mercy. I trust in You
Yes...he is Happy....you can see it in his face. ....somehow its Not the same with her.....
I hope that Pip n his new partner finds & helps Kris get her Happiness apart from their two sons.
Id love to be a part of this Church....A Church of God that Loves me n Who i Am.
@@drew0909 I suspect there is more projection than reading.
She has to have had nearly as difficult a path being duped into that false narrative that Evangelicalism pushes but doesn't deliver. She has been victimized by Evangelicalism in a similar way as he was.
Oh man. I’m so sorry. But know that as a queer old man who survived the AIDS crisis you are so loved. And I’m sure “In you, HE is well pleased”.
Pip's description of his efforts to change his orientation through prayer and Bible reading sends chills down my spine - that was my path too, and I remember wondering why everyone else were heterosexual for free while, for some reason, something was wrong with me. Thank you for having the courage of telling this story.
I remember utterly pointless it was to pray for it to go away. We all did it when adolescence came. God was either incapable or unwilling to make me a heterosexual. Either way it was so wonderful to embrace honesty.
"For some strange reason, the church could ruin just about everything for us, but that they couldn't take our real experience of the divine."
Whether you are LGBTQI+ or not, God loves EVERYBODY whether you like it or not!! Amen.
God loves everybody. How exactly does He do that? And where do you get this idea that God loves everybody. You seem to know Him. Or maybe you think you know Him. Your comment doesn't say much, honestly.
@@lucmalafarina1807 God loves all his children but that doesnt mean the consequences of their actions arent there, God hates sin not the sinners
@@lord12jsv68you have judged. And you will be judged.
I'm a non-believer who, as a boy, sang in a church choir but can't remember ever believing that there was a God, especially given the terrible things that were being done in his name and despite him supposedly looking over and out for everyone. If so, why do so many in the world suffer incredible misfortunes and mistreatment. The teachings of 'God' in all faiths is based on love, forgiveness, understanding, acceptance, tolerance, and inclusion. The problem is that those people responsible for the formation and oversight of the various religious 'organisations' base their beliefs, not on the 'word of God' but on their personal prejudices and this is reflected in the uncompromising attitudes of these religions. They cast out those who do not fit their idea of what is their interpretation of their 'God's word'. After all, religious books which tell you how to behave and think were written predominently by men based on their prejudices and experiences. If you believe in God, love your life as you believe your God would want for you and not as others interpret what you are meant to do.
This is a cautionary tale. If you're gay, accept yourself, your nature, and don't try this because you are involving others, will sooner or later have to admit defeat. Shame on anyone who tries to convince gay men that marriage is the cure.
I got married and had 3 children !! The Marriage was a complete Disaster.. After my Divorce I came out to my family.. And I've been happy ever since...
So happy for you 😊🩵
😊
I like that they were such true friends, that this "love" enabled them to deal with this huge problem with compassion and empathy because they cared for each other that much. This is a truly sad yet beautiful story.
Memory Malunga it’s not beautiful. It’s just a sad story.
She couldn’t wait to get that freak out of her life
Oh my dear Lord the devil is a liar... This story is very sad. Only God can help. Only Jesus.
Such a powerful and moving documentary that breaks the shackles of the conservative evangelical movement ... What a breath of fresh air to feel God’s love and grace for all!
Kids are so naturally loving and accepting of folk; proves to show that they are taught otherwise.
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Unfortunately adults warp
...Sooo good to see this story. Thank you and all who took part in delivering it. ..Powerful and important right now!
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Why do you use Catholic symbols, ie., statues, rosaries, etc., when you are obviously not Catholic much less a Catholic priest? Any genuine message which this story tried to convey was swept away by these false pretenses. Which leaves one major conclusion to the storyline. That is, “Catholicism is bad, retrograde and does not accept “us”. Whomever that “us” may be. This story seems to be just another jab at Catholicism. Furthermore, regarding a statement made by the reverend. Something to the effect that the church should celebrate people. The Christian Church is not about celebrating people it is about worshipping God.
A great and valid note. Why are Catholic symbols being used?
Because he is Anglo Catholic they are also used in other churches not just the Catholic one. Since the Oxford movement .
Here is England the Anglican church just look like Catholic churches they have the same traditions since they split in 1536. Same with the Orthadox here in England they Anglican church has a shrine of the Lady Of Walsingham in England.
It is not only Roman Catholics who use those various items.
@@alejandrojosealfonsoturgan1618 Crosses and Statues are not just exclusive to the RC church the word catholic in Greek means Universal.
Parts of this was hard to watch for personal reasons. This was a wonderful short doc and I wish each one of you the very best. Its amazing to have a place to develop your faith and someone to go home to.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw You're right! He needs to ditch Christianity because there's no true religion.
@@mogotrevo The simplistic ideas the unbeliever ends up believing are his punishment.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw Which Christian religion are you? I'm Catholic, so should I say you're going to hell if you aren't, because some will. Should we listen to southern baptist, because they say they are the only way. I had stopped going to mass over 20 years ago, in the last 6 months I came back, because I realized I was there for God and not for others. God is about love, and I have a tough time believing and never will, that God would hold against me, the way he made me
@@Jukka70 The serpent whispers into Eves ear "Hath God said?" casting doubt on Gods Word. Eve eats of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In otherwords decides for herself what is good and evil. This continues even today especially when it comes to this issue. Jesus Christ is obedient unto death and sacrifices Himself. As Christians we are called to sacrifice according to Gods Word, not what the world decides. Sexual liberation is about political control.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw there are so many arguments about this, we could go for days. So I will just say this. You have done your job following what you believe to be right. I now say back ty. I still believe that God knows what he is doing. Saying once to us is to inform, to say it more is to judge, and God does love us all
This was a moment in time for both Pip and Kris to prove once again that God has no favorites. Their story is beautiful and nothing is more God like then the life they are living.
Joe Pepe there is nothing God like in the life he is living. The bible explicitly states homosexuality is wrong. You can search for a “church” that says your sin is ok, but you’re just fooling yourself.
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Thank you so so much for covering this. I have just begun on my journey with Christ and being almost 20 and gay has been really scary. Not growing up that religious but very spiritual I have always felt a connection to something divine. Seeing a church which affirms my self-expression and interpretation of the scripture is so so powerful
@@LittleFrog09 Every single one of us sin but I don’t think a God who is so loving, generous and all knowing would create us in his image only to be condemned to a life of sin. There is some things we just don’t know but we all know how much God loves us through his son Jesus and like you said you can feel it. Don’t let anyone tell you he doesn’t love you
This 80 year old gay minister who also found a haven in the Anglican communion found your honest and sensitive testimony deeply moving and hopeful. God bless you and your ministry !!!👍
The Anglican Communion is in schism over this. You might say Anglican Communion vs The Episcopalian Church.
Just sharing there's a distinction.
Yes, thank you: I understand the distinction. The same may be said of Methodism / Methodist Church, out of which I have come.
@@deanaburnham9571 The Worldwide Anglican Communion is composed of a lot of Provinces. One of those Provinces is the Episcopal Church, which is centered in the US. Another Province is the Anglican Church of Canada. This Priest is a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. The Mother Province of the Worlwide Anglican Communion is the Church of England. If people will notice, this documentary was made by the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
Ms Burnham: Thanks for your clarification, which may help some persons understand this video and my use of terms; as I was aware of the film's Canadian origin, and I am of USA Methodist / Episcopalian origin, thus the more general terminology. As you no doubt recognize, one can't easily get all the background into. a single comment, so I am most grateful for your clarifying addition.
What an amazing wife and mother he has in Chris! Major props to her for being so open and forward thinking and unconditional in her love and support of her partner.
What if she wanted to remarry and her husband lived with them? Would the kids then have 3 dads?
@@gmac8586 I agree married is a 2 way st not a 3 way street its very not the norm.
@@gmac8586 She would need divine guidance for her choice. I totally believe that's possible for God.
do not underestimate the cost to her. More than any human should be asked to endure. But women do it all the time.
A second thanks for your courage and compassion in posting this video. It has brought out a great deal of support for your insight into Christian compassion and pilgrimage, as well as "outing" a lot of ugly and mediaeval bigotry. I pray that all of your lives -- as God wishes, are evolving for you happily, and that your priesthood is prospering. (From the 80 year old gay priest) GOD BLESS AND GUIDE YOU 👍👍 !!!
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guess you forgot to read the book you claim to teach people about 🤨
@@thug588: And you obviously have failed to learn anything from its hero, Jesus Christ. No wonder you go by the name "thug" !! How singularly appropriate!!!
Quran, Muslim, and Christian bible all condemn homosexuality as an abomination. I will pray for both of us to repent. I also need repentance for my sins.
@@red37i59gay is ok
So heartbreaking to watch. Just wanna give them a huge hug and tell them it will all be ok. Man, what a battle.
I think you get it.
so dramatic-u will find him on Church street-
I watched this one twice. The children in this family are growing up in such a loving environment.
Even though I am an atheist I would absolutely attend this church just for the community.
Thank-you for this one
Maybe you should find an atheist community.
Nicolle Olafson your an atheist and would go to a church, why?are you going to explain to these people that they are following in a manner inconsistent with the evidence? I mean, you place everything on evidence, right. Then go and explain to these people that their views do no align with the Law of both the Old and New Testaments. You should be able to agree with that statement.
@@mikazofstrum3268 Where is your husband? 1 Timothy 2:12 is pretty clear on the subject of speaking out against men - and the priest you continually rage against *is* a man. Where is your husband? Why are you breaking your own Biblical law?
E T well I think you assume you are interpreting 1Timothy correctly, obviously out of context and with the eyes of a modernist. Well, try if you can, to imagine the context of this letter from Paul. If you read the interpretations from the Catholic Bishops or Orthodox Bishops ( those with authority from Christ to interpret these passages), you will see that this refers to either a rebuke of a specific case in the Ephesian church and the establishment of proper conduct. Men are to conduct themselves with honesty and without judgement. Women are to learn in a peaceful manner without quarrel. Both men and women are warned against displaying the arrogance of Eve. Now, you make two errors in your argument. One, you mistake Paul’s instruction to a specific situation, for a universal teaching or code of conduct. To be able to ascertain Paul’s overall message, you have to see what Paul’s total message is. Remember Paul also states the “we are all one in Christ.” Two, your rebuttal to my argument is invalid. This is because my argument states that one must be consistent with Christian teaching to call yourself a Christian, which the subject of the video fails to be. You establish a red herring by comparing my apparent lack of adherence to Christian teaching to my claim regarding this video. This still does not address the content of my argument. Let me help you. You could be valid if you questioned whether or not Christianity actually teaches the doctrine that practicing homosexuality is sinful. That would force me to prove the point. Question my adherence to the faith does not do this validly.
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What a wonderful, powerful, emotional documentary. Thank you to all concerned for sharing this.
Thanku for sharing your story, it brought me to tears.I have been to churches and never felt safe and wanted.Thanks to u lam going to check out my local Angolan Church, and see there view on Gay people.Again Thanku.😁😁
whats so wonderful about a story that maybe told with eloquence, panache and yes emotions-analyze the dynamics of the turmoil generated as a result of the choice he made-so much complex confusion for those young children and the wife
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A hole lot of crap!
Amazing...this is both my and my brothers story. We are both Christian, married to men, in ministry, and in our 70's. My brothers ex-wife is still his best friend and I still consider her my sister. they are still a family in raising their children and grandchildren. It does get better, especially when we learn to be open to Gods mercy, grace, and love.
Amen & amen!
@Tiger Lilly your past seems to haunt you....maybe your husband left you for another man because you were incapible to perform your duties -----
Dont Blame God for that by using Him as a Shield
Don't Blame Pip in this video ..for he has found Happiness n you Havent.
Dont Blame the Homosexuals for your Unhappiness.
BLAME IT ALL ON YOURSELF - YOUR CHOICES , YOUR ACTIONS N YOUR WORDS.
....no one else is the cause of this state youre in but YOURSELF.
Do you now understand Devil in Sheeps Clothing or is it appropriate to say " Devil in Tigers' Clothing " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Try n have a Blessed time.
@@aiseakonrote5381 And what do you think Jesus meant when He send His disciples, including today's Christians, to go and preach the Good News, set the captives free?
Stop hiding behind "do not judge" to justify the promotion of sin, because this is exactly what this video and this testimony is about.
@@aiseakonrote5381 Can you guess who said this: Be Holy as Your Father in Heaven.
I am eager to hear what you respond to the author of this command, because you seem to be violently allergic to the idea of someone reminding their fellow believers that this is what God is calling them to be.
@@habibak.6234 just because you're envious of the Happiness shown in this video - you rant off your phobic feelings.
Keep ranting - Pip will always be Happy n others as well as me......n hopefully you too.
Cheers...Try n have a Blessed vision.😊😊
God loves you the way you are. Don't fall for the negative sides, keep praying to god, and keep working on your life; and most important, your relationship with God.
You are just as bad as the Pagans. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9
Human effort could never match the righteousness of God. That is the reason Jesus died in our stead - that is why God's grace is invaluable. And Jesus Christ understands that we are not infallible. Anyone trying to say that there are people who are not worthy of the love of Jesus Christ are just modern-day Pharisees. Not even they in all their Mosaic Law & order were exempt from needing forgiveness from God through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. For ALL have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. Christ came to call the sick & the unloved that they may experience the mercy of God. 💛
You don't know God if you do not accept his Word.
Jesus Christ teaches us not to judge others. You don't know what these people are going through.
@@gregs3220 Matthew 7:1 - 2 For as you judge, so you will be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be used against you.
1 John 1: 8 If we say "We are without sin," we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Lorelay Fox entregando tudo com essa "notícia" ❤❤❤
This was just so beautifu to see the story unfold. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect as this progressed. But a fantastic and fabulous wonderful outcome. So moving.
its a lie it goes against the bible and the body is sinful
i cannot in good conscience embrace your "teachings".
Get real -it was good if this was only a story-but this is real life drama unfolding
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I forget sometimes how many good and truly loving people there are out there. So glad I stumbled across this video
The Church was founded by Jesus Christ and isn't open to a vote to validate whatever we want to do. We follow God's commands for true peace and joy.
Phil Lynch THe Spirit will guide us into all truth. The ancient Tradition of the Church is the the Spirit leads us by guiding the decisions of the community of faith: the bishops, priests, deacons, and laity who prayerfully meet in faith to discuss issues and listen for the guidance of the Spirit. The idea that anyone at all can read the Bible and whatever’s written there is the way things have to be is a relatively modern invention, developed by the Protestant reformers when they threw out the faith as it had existed for 1500 years and reinvented everything. Modern Evangelical Protestantism is a human invention, a radical reinterpretation of Christianity, and because of that, it has led to the reappearance of all the old heresies.
Wf Coaker very true!
Wf Coaker if you are suggesting that God’s word can change, you are gravely mistaken. God is eternal. That means His word and actions are forever. Any reinterpretation is heresy. Both the Old and New testaments confirm homosexuality is a grave sin. We don’t get to reinterpret this. Remember Jesus said He came to reaffirm the law not abrogate it.
Mika Zofstrum I don’t think that’s what he was saying.
It depends on what one chooses to obey. God or our emotions. God's is word will never change no matter what.
Have Faith, spread the Gospels, be happy and leave the rest to God.
Yes
I don't think you've read the Bible 100% with accuracy check again.
@@Gerardo-dt8xf --- I have. It's how I know its god is cruel, homophobic and misogynistic.
THE SINS THAT CRY TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE
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. They called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to your house tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intimacies with them."
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. Lot went out to meet them at the entrance. When he had shut the door behind him,
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. he said, "I beg you, my brothers, not to do this wicked thing.
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. I have two daughters who have never had intercourse with men. Let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you please. But don't do anything to these men, for you know they have come under the shelter of my roof."
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. They replied, "Stand back! This fellow," they sneered, "came here as an immigrant, and now he dares to give orders! We'll treat you worse than them!" With that, they pressed hard against Lot, moving in closer to break down the door.
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. at the same time they struck the men at the entrance of the house, one and all, with such a blinding light that they were utterly unable to reach the doorway.
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. Then the angels said to Lot: "Who else belongs to you here? Your sons (sons-in-law) and your daughters and all who belong to you in the city - take them away from it!
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. We are about to destroy this place, for the outcry reaching the LORD against those in the city is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." -- Genesis 19:5 - 13
True friends don't let friends get sodomized!
What has rape got to do with homosexuality?
@@StevenWaling Leviticus 18:22-25 Amplified Bible (AMP)
You shall not lie [intimately] with a male as one lies with a female; it is repulsive. [1 Cor 6:9, 10] You shall not have intimate relations with any animal to be defiled with it; nor shall a woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion. ‘Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled. For the land has become defiled; therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants.
Everything. @@StevenWaling
I’m a SSA young man convert to Catholicism and I must say that though my sexuality is part of who I am, it is not the core of my identity. As a religious person my identity is first with Our Lord Jesus and His Church. I encourage anyone who wants to know the actual stance of the Catholic Church on homosexuals to read the Catechism or to hear talks which are available in this video platform given by Fr. Mike Schmitz.
I am aware that the video is not directly related to the Catholic Church. I just wanted to show another point of view from a religious person who is SSA. Also the fact that the person went to a congregation merely for their acceptance of his sexuality in my opinion is not a good sign. I converted from a church who could have accepted this behavior to the Church who teaches otherwise. I converted because I had to surrender to what had been revealed to me. The Most Holy Sacrament. It should be said that according to the Church beings SSA is not a sin itself though acting on it is. God bless you.
God bless you
@@gadielrivera1880 Yeah, no thanks.
Brainwashed
Schmitz tells people Catholics aren’t allowed to even go to gay weddings as guests. This from a man whose brother is gay. I used to think this was pettiness but this is a deep deep sickness in many Catholics. On this issue the church is unnaturally disordered and must repent of its mortal sin. Many of the hierarchy will burn.
Pip has gone through real pain. He obviously missed some critical male bonding when he was young. But he and his ex-wife are very confused and are causing much damage to themselves and others.Example 1The fact of a man craving his wife is NOT about objectifying her. Married sex between man and wife is about mutual self-giving where two literally become one. It is an icon of the Trinity. It is so precious to God that He enables the couple to become co-creators.That is NEVER possible with same-sex couples.Example 2While God may operate in unexpected ways, He NEVER contradicts Himself. He has an established order that humans are duty bound to abide by.What He wants from us is simple: that we love Him back and abide in His will. That's it.What He wants is for us to do these things so we can get to our true home, the one He has prepared for us. Don't trade the eternal banquet that is our true inheritance for the temporary potato chips of this world.
Well said. God bless you.
God loves all of his creation, but our sin separates us from God. He is calling us daily to repentance, turning from our sin and being back in communion with Him. We all struggle daily, but it's worth it!
Dint marry wrong
This made me cry...in a good way. God bless you and your family.
You should be crying for him. This man has not given up all to follow Christ. He says, I will not serve.
may he rot in hell
Daryle Harris I am curious, how can you say this given the fact that both the Old and New Testaments confirms that homosexuality is a grave sin. You encourage this behavior despite what God says? His burden is great, yes, but loving God means obeying His commandments.
im so sick of people leaving comments talking about what made them cry. I DO NOT care about feelings.
@@ginomanshit2365 And that is a perfect example of what makes you a non-christian. Jesus would have never said that.
Peace with one's " own self" , as my kids said when they were little, and love for our fellow humans is actually like a rainbow .... emotional, beautiful, natural and light ... I hope you're all having a great time!
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Truely agonizing story and beautiful at the same time which is going on everyday for many of us.It would be really nice and happier moment if every story of such struggles becomes same like this mesmerizing live story...
Brilliant. I think it's about time now that people should stop hiding their fear by hiding behind what should be a totally inclusive church. God bless you.
Christ can heal
@@Andrew-hq4wugay is ok
he is not reborn, Christ can do the impossible, seek the TRUTH. Be in the world but not of the world.
A biblical evangelical preaches the good news that God loves all of God’s creation. This video shows true evangelism: the surety of God’s mercy and compassion. Thank you for sharing this story. God bless you all.
Yeah he loves all creation but DOES NOT LOVE SIN. HAVE U HEARD OF GODS COMMANDEMENTS AND BIBLE
I read it in Hebrew and Greek. As a Baptist, my faith is grounded in Jesus/the gospels; all the rest is commentary to be read and understood in the context of the ministry of Jesus. Both Jesus and Paul warn against false prophets of which they are as many now as then. Read the first Chapter of John in Greek; it really opened my heart. I also follow what Jesus says about about Sodom.
@@leosun3203 God is bigger than the Bible
@@altavosloo9415 the bible is God s word. No bible means no to god
Matthew 7:13-15
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Show me that gate... Where is that gate exactly?
@@namelessrose3859 Do you really want to know?
Get off the internet and keep trying the find that gate, don. You're wasting precious time, here!
We are all children of God. Praise be to Jesus Christ. His mercy endures forever.
Nope, only a children of God if you repent and receive the Holy Spirit, otherwise you're a son of the devil.
Tell that to the churches that condemn us, cause shame for us, cause depression for us, cause non-acceptance of ourselves even as good people, cause us to commit suicide.............all religions are just "bad stories" and are sin themselves - they promote duality, polarization, wars and hatred. We don't need religions to be good, king, loving, wonderful, accepting people. Find spirit in any way other than religion - religion tells lies to people and stories that never happened. Nature and animals don't lie.
@@jgil1966 that is not a judgment you can make. You have no authority to do so.
@John Perry .....and no one has the authority to change the bible and the word of God or put words in his mouth
@@brendongross4119- take care of that log in your eye before you going around sticking your finger in someone else's eye. You have no authority to decide what is or is not the word of any god.
I held my breath while watching this, it spoke to me. Thank You for sharing your story!
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Please stop using the term 'queer' to describe gay people. I know some people like the term, but there are many who do not like to be called queer. It's like using the N word to describe black people in general, just because some black people have adopted the term for themselves.
I really think that society as a whole has to wake up to the fact that we are and we are not going away any time soon, I am proud of who I am and I have no regrets what so ever as to what I am, I have this life from the age of 15 years and now at the age of 77 I can say without any regrets that I am a very happy person happily married to a wonderful man whom I have been with for almost 27 years. As for this documentary, I am very very proud of you as a man of the cloth you have opened your heart to a very loving wife and your new husband and that you have two wonderful children also this is amazing and all that I can say is God bless you and family.
Do not go to church, because you do not want to do the will of God. Continue as you do, but your lifestyle is ungodly. The scriptures say that all immoral people will end up in the Lake of Fire. Or repent, and sin no more.
John Hall You are right. Rebellion against God and His laws has been around since Lucifer fell from heaven. Doesn’t make it good.
@@margritwagner398 God will be the judge of that - not you.
Being "Happy" doesnt mean you are doing the will of God. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9
@@klarissaclairiton9010
Sacred Scripture, both in the Old and New Testament forbids homosexual acts, unchastity, adultery, masturbation, lewd acts.
God's already passed judgement on these actions.
Barrack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Mario Cummo and all the other worldly politicians who will say and do anything for your vote ...they aren't God.
I hope Chris has found someone as well. I give her all the awards for the best human being in the world.
Yes, Elmer, so do I. She💐 courageously went into this marriage knowing the risk; but it must still be hard for her, and she shows even greater courage and compassion in accepting and publishing it's outcome. So, yes; if she wishes to find love in another partner, I heartily wish her the best ! God bless her !!!!
Profound!!! Undeniably the very best story I heard on this subject. This one will stay with me the rest of my life. With all my sincerity--Thank You.
unfortunately u don't see how selfish the man is-so full of himself
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Kris is the most unselfish woman I’ve seen. Having said that, it’s not what she says that convinced me that she’s happy but what she doesn’t say between the lines that make me wonder whether she’s (really) happy with the situation. Pip became very queer asa he talked to Ms Drag, which shows he’s still performing ... I don’t understand why people choose to be in an environment we’re 90% of the Congregation disagrees with their lifestyle. Religion is a cancer, a confirmative pit hole of sorrow and make-believe. The fact that Pip was asked to leave his church and lost most of his friends should’ve been an eye-opener. Then again, it’s his life and he can do with it what he wants, asa he doesn’t hurt anyone around him.
Marcus NL I disagree. He has most certainly hurt his wife. Sure, she’s trying to remain positive and be supportive. Who wouldn’t like to hear all the positive comments about themselves as evidenced here? But one day she will be honest with herself and Pip and admit how unhappy she is.
@@kalani431 She knew the truth about his gender confusion when she agreed to marry him, didn't she?
Lorelay, eu tô aqui por sua causa, e por causa da minha curiosidade kkkkkk
Alguém veio parar aqui por causa do vídeo da vovó Lore? Kkkkk
Eu kkkk
This story is so heart breaking. I am a believer and even though I would not be able to say that gay marriage is okay, I do believe that everyone should be allowed in church. The bible says that every sin is equal so if we don't allow every sinner into church, what kind of church are we? We all have fallen short of the glory of God and we are called to love God first and everyone else too. How could anyone be denied the love of God and be called to repentance if they are shunned when they are seeking God? I love that the church truly has a "Come as you are" attitude. In that respect, I agree.
REBECCA . THE CHURCH IS FULL OF REPENTANT SINNERS NOT THOSE WHO HAVE NOT REPENTED AND ARE LIVING IN SIN.
@@wendymitchell8245 I went to church before I was a Christian. I was invited by a good friend and I eventually repented. You can blame the church all you want but at the end of the day, we all have a choice. It is our own choices that we will be responsible for in the end...not what others have done.
Not every sin is equal. Some are worse. You wouldn't consider lying to be as bad as adultery, or saying something insulting to be as bad as killing someone.
I wish you the best! As an Anglican I am proud the people like you are opening the doors of walking with Christ. I am thankful for The Right Reverend Gene Robinson for standing tall during very tough times.
Blessings, David +
I wish I can find your church and worship in it. I was a Roman Catholic and I am disappointed with our stupid clerics who do not see Christ in you. I am church-orphaned now and the closest rite to me is Anglican.
Shankarees So Christ is queer? Jesus tells us; “ for those who wish to be my disciple must deny himself and take up his cross daily.” Is there self- denial in being a practicing homosexual?
If you’re looking for a church, read your Bible, then find a church that preaches it. If the church does not follow the teachings in the Bible, they are doing it for their own gain.
Elly Claire You are wrong. The Apostolic Church (Catholic and Orthodox) decided for you what the Bible is and if you do not belong to either Church, you are not a Christian but a heretic and should burn in hell.
Toronto-Broadview subway station
Literally every “church” and parish has stupid clergy.
“Coming out cost me family and all of my friends.” That was such a difficult thing to hear. The harm done in the name of Faith by those who profess the Love of God should seriously listen to this documentary. I am, however, so glad that from suffering came such a wonderful metamorphosis.
Simon Jenner don’t confuse harm with love. Harm would encourage someone to continue in sin. Love is turning someone to God so they avoid eternal damnation. Is that what you meant?
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The question is, has he ever sought delievrance from this oppression?? Many have been delivered from the same. Many! There are many deliverance ministries who go to the source of the problem and the person is freed from the oppression. This is not a natural condition, but spiritual in origin !!! Those who sought spiritual help found it, instead of trying to deal with it on their own in their own way, which is a futile exercise; and being angry at someone else. This is a result of spiritual oppression, evil spirits. Spirits prowl about this world seeking whom they make devour, when they find an opening any where any how, they enter, and stay, and invite more as they desire. Deliverance help is available from those who know how to deal with such matters.
Sorry, but all this crap about the "spirits" and such is utter rubbish and your claims about people being "delivered" is dangerous nonsense. The "oppression" this fellow was suffering from was the reaction to his religious upbringing and the intolerant views of others, not due to prowling spirits seeking to "devour" him.
@@MRayner59 You so obviously have no clue about anything!!! You live and and walk with your eyes blind, your ears shut, your mind closed & your heart hard as a rock; yet you think you know it all!!! When did religion & upbringing become a thing to react to?? If that is the case why haven't all these, psycho.... whatever man made therapies that he is said to have consulted, not been able to help him with his problem? Oh, I see, it's better for him to live a lie & be pretentious about his life than for him to face the issue head on & get rid of it. Don't be a fool Mr!!!!
@@victory2213 I think it is you who is the fool. Deliverance ministries are ineffective... a person may delude themselves that they have been 'healed' or what have you... but it is shown over and over that their deeply embedded and completely autonomous sexual orientation cannot be changed... it can be suppressed.. I'll give you that, but that is a shell of a person... living in misery...but hiding it because of the shame and stigma people like you heap on them. Many... many of these people can't 'stick' with this as their natural selves forces it out of them... they cannot live a lie...especially when they are lying to themselves. Many will go so far to commit suicide, rather than live an empty lonely miserable life.. but I assume you think that is better...
Jesus did not say ONE thing about homosexuality... it was our friendly misogynist and homophobe Paul who did most of the ranting against women and gays in the NT.. since when is PAUL the authority... someone who never even met Jesus... ?? Jesus ate with the lepers and the downtrodden and the sex workers etc... he wanted them to come to him and be of the body... yet you 'self-righteous and sanctimonious' xitans believe you know better and judge others... look to your own sins, woman... and leave others to their god... if you believe his is omnipotent etc... he doesn't need a pissant like you doing his work for him... hypocrite.
"There is virtually no reliable evidence that sexual orientation can be changed and medical bodies warn that conversion therapy practices are ineffective and potentially harmful. " -- conversion therapy, wikipedia
"National health organizations in the United States have announced that there has been no scientific demonstration of conversion therapy's efficacy in the last forty years. They find that conversion therapy is ineffective, risky and can be harmful. Anecdotal claims of cures are counterbalanced by assertions of harm, and the American Psychiatric Association, for example, cautions ethical practitioners under the Hippocratic oath to do no harm and to refrain from attempts at conversion therapy." -- Conversion Therapy, wikipedia
Please seek God First. He is the jugde.
What shred of evidence can you provide to show that your god is real?
@@namelessrose3859 It's called faith. And also, how to you think we got here? Do you really thing that all of this can come from nothing? Look around you. Look at how complicated but wonderful the human body is. All of the atoms that make up everything around us. The wonder of nature, all of the beautiful stars in the night sky, galaxies away. You believe that those were created randomly through an explosion from nothing? Our world is so delicate and complex, something like that can only be created. Planned out, and hand crafted. Something can't just come from nothing.
I'm so happy to see he's found the right path for his life. Now he can have the happiness as it should be and has hid faith. It's a beautiful thing and as it should be.
so this according to u is the right path? Marrying a woman-divorcing her-marrying a man and all 3 under one roof- as the man warms up and cuddles another man and the woman is left to nurse her wounds,all under the same roof
@@zulkifal111 What part did you get that they were all living under the same roof. I certainly missed that part. And even if so, that is their choice to do it. Their lives are not yours or mine. Living expenses are not cheap. And wirh staggered pay ans increasing cost, it becomes a survival thing. Can't say that this President is making anything easier for the non-rich.
I hope this incredible young man reads this msg. You are loved, and God would NEVER, EVER turn his back on you OR place conditions on his love for you. I am so happy you were able to finally live and enjoy your truth and what an incredible, loving and honourable Steward you are…Equality, Peace and Love to you and your beautiful family 😘😘
Reverend. I wish you well in life. Much happiness. "Who am I to judge? " 🙏🙏🙏
This was a moving testimony. Thank you so much for sharing!
I'm gay and I understand how you cannot change if God does not change you. Just based on what I saw I can assume that the love he found seems good, but the church seems to cater to homosexuality instead of Jesus. I mean, there's a man dressed in women's clothing. Church is not a drag bar, it's a place to listen to the word of God, worship and pray. Seems like a circus to me.
@@gregs3220 Please tell me where that is written in the bible? You can't because it's not in there. All we have to go by is the bible. When you start changing it you're deep in deceit. The only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ. That is in the bible.
@@gregs3220Where does it say we need more than the Word of God?There we can read how to be saved, how to be a disciple of Christ, and we use the Word to teach eachother and be the Church. Your first question is answerd by 1 john:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
John 1:1, 3-4 NKJV
II Tim 3:16
and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
II Timothy 3:15-17 NKJV
But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men.
Acts 5:29 NKJV
Second statement: it is written that people in the flesh can not please God (romans 8:8), not people who have no faith. By faith you are saved, but by what kind of faith is written in hebrews 11.
And your statement that without the priest: no authority. Where does it say that? Yes God uses apostles to help built churches, but apostles are still part of the body of Christ and not more than any other human being.
Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Luke 10:19 NKJV
Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.
Titus 2:15 NKJV
Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases.
Luke 9:1 NKJV
not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.
II Thessalonians 3:9 NKJV
We are the temple of Christ, the body of Christ. Not a building. We can use a building to come together and celebrate was God does in is, but it is not the place where He dwells:
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
Ephesians 2:19-22 NKJV
Brilliant affirmation !
@@gregs3220 can you tell me the verses so i can read the texts for myself?
@@gregs3220 YOUR CHURCH IS NO BETTER IT IS FULL OF HOMOSEXUAL PRIESTS.
What about the wife?doesn't she need a partner?-Is this only about him-his sexuality and fulfillment?
Exactly.
It follows from his own discovery of freedom in Jesus, that he would have wanted her to have a loving relationship of her own. However, it is quite possible that the love of her small children is enough to satisfy het at this stage. I'm sure many mothers would agree.
@@altavosloo9415 uh no why are you objectifying her?
@@gregs3220 exactly!
@@altavosloo9415 My impression is that the two men in this documentary will accept and support her in her relationship when or if she ever decides to include a spouse into her and their lives.
Remember the Bible it cannot be changed to suit man.
The Bible was written by men, to suit mankind living more than 1500 years ago. The fact Christianity has survived till now is surprising in the light of science. We now know It took hundreds of millions of years to create the world we live in. We can trace "creation" by dating rocks and fossils: from the early ammonites, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles and then mammals. It took apes 2-3 million years to become "man" as we know it. We knew none of this when we listened to Jesus and saw him crucified. God never told us the evolution story. It then took 300 years to write the Bible (on an estimated 360 calf skins for the first edition). It would have been rewritten and corrected many times in the process - improved and adjusted by a plethora of "wise men" with changing ideas, interpretations, special needs and diverse cultures (but with no science/psychology knowledge). The fact the Bible survived till now with all its naivete speaks more about people's psychological need for comfort, hope, direction and a reason for being, than it does the Truth. Remember, it was written before man discovered that Earth was round, or that ours is one of thousands of universes. So in that knowledge vacuum, the Intelligent Design theory hinges on Adam and Eve who had four sons (no daughters) three of whom found wives (perhaps their mother). And later, other improbable yarns like the one involving Noah and his Ark. Jesus and the apostles obviously didn't know about evolution otherwise the Bible would have given God credit for it. In fact, God could have explained a lot of things through Jesus (including that many animals are naturally attracted to the same sex and that it is impossible to change their orientation). Too late now. The Bible "cannot be changed to suit man", so we must interpret it. Islam has a similar problem. The Koran advocates stoning homosexuals to death but in a poll of Muslims in London recently 30% disagreed. Similarly, Christian Fundamentalists won't let anyone queer their pitch. It's hellfire for all homosexuals and the Devil is in charge of it. The Catholics kicked Pip out as if he was a philistine. Understandable given the "One True Church's" reputation. However, a more pragmatic brotherhood, the acute Anglicans, who must have put the Bible's thesis up for queer review, noticed a few anomalies and decided to let Nature take its course. They hired Pip and made him a priest. For all the gay Christians or parents of gay or transgender children out there, I can hear them now: Praise the Pragmatists.
That’s hilarious because humans ignore many parts of the bible to suit their horrible behaviors
Exactly
@Joe Smith
Nowhere in Scripture does God tolerate sexual acts between 2 men or 2 women. St. Paul called those acts of lust "unnatural'.
Sean Livingston I’m not sure if you’re joking, but obviously it is, what makes men better pastors than women? Also there’s many religions with female preachers/priests get with the times
remember, Jesus didnt sit with the rich, he sat with the outcasts
He sat with both. For example, Nicodemus was rich.
I am an ex-gay person. I suffered more with my gay peers and I learned a lot. I gave my burden to God. I am not interested in being with a man and getting married to one not to mention having children. However, I do love my gay brothers and sisters. It doesn't feel right to me so I decided to create new relationships with other people and started an online business.
Good for you. Now go in peace.
You my dear are perfect in showing how God is your First Love!!!!! Christ will give you millions of crowns to throw at The Father feet on that glorious day !!!! That will be where I will watch your love for our creator and Celebrate with Christ !!!
I just converted to the Anglican Church of Canada. Absolutely love it.
“Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.” John 12:25
Those with ears, let them hear.
Interesting, that a Monsignor is watching this....
Juan Vélez He isn’t a REAL Monsignor, he is associated with a schismatic church, that is no longer under the Pope.
@@unnikutta6514Okay, but in that case, he's probably more conservative/reactionary than the usual Catholic, traditionally homophobic, so why is he watching this?
Juan Vélez Not always, a lot of these schismatic groups are actually very liberal. Some of them ordain women “priests”, and approve of homosexuality. The OSJV, I know nothing about.
This is my story. ..i thought i was alone. Thank you so much.
Alys, you are so not alone. Try to find a loving progressive church where you feel safe. The Anglican church has been striving to be that. In our community it is the bastion of Christ's radical love for people of all backgrounds.
Sending you loads of love! Stay strong!
@ Mira Celeste The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were progressive too, now their in the lake of fire...
@@breny3 i do not wish to live according to my orientation. ..i am catholic and want to submit to the church's teaching and scripture....but it just helped to hear of another person's struggle to be the spouse they wanted to be because of their orientation. I love my husband dearly but fail him daily because i cannot give him the physical intimacy he desires because of the ptsd and selfhatred that arises if i do. I grieve deeply for not being good enough. To know I'm not alone in that gives me comfort to my soul.
Forget Catholicism, it’s teachings are pagan. Get yourself a bible and read the New Testament, ask god to help you understand it and give you wisdom. God completely transformed my life by simply reading the bible and praying everyday. I suffered with severe depression / anxiety for 25 years. God healed me completely after 2 months of praying and reading. God also showed me sins I needed to repent of. Once I decided to get rid of sin in my life that’s when things really started to get better. Don’t despair. Jesus loves you and is waiting for you to cry out to him. Let him transform your life.
I think through your courage, you have probably saved more souls, who felt excluded previously. Thank you and may God bless you.
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Beautiful story and family! So inclusive and respectful.
Thanks Gerardo :)
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Skin and flesh Jesus took on was good and we are all different so use your body in the world as you wish? Which book is that in??
Yea, there is no such thing.
@Stacy Caruso where does it say that celibacy is the only solution? Isn't in the bible that we should repent, be baptised and recieve the Holy Spirit? Because we are slaves of sin, and through baptism we become free from sin, we rise up IN Christ and the Holy Spirit will help us to silence our flesh and do the things according to Gods will? So we can be free?
@Stacy Caruso Excuse me. You are accepting words from a book , written 3-5 thousand years ago by a Jew, meant to be a ' guideline ' for the Jewish people. Regardless...these words ...whichever you all refer to...have been rewritten way too many time and adopted into the Christian Bible. We are all children of God , a benovelent God . How could a father condem his child, son ,to eternal damnation for loving another man when they both remain faithful to their God. God is Love, God wants us to Love . ' Live and let live '...' judge not lest ye be judged ' ... and if you have not sinned you are welcome to ' cast the first stone '. Just my humble thoughts, not looking for a fight. God bless.
I know two lovely young women who married gay Christian men who claimed they were "cured". Both of these women are now divorced and devastated because the love of their life did not and cannot stop their attraction for men.
You do not want your daughters to go through this, I am speaking from experience...
Sadly gay priests in the Church of England still cannot marry their loved one in the church...........
That was brilliant and inspiring thanks so much for the upload ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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Thank u for being so honest. I pray for u & yr Family. U are still very fortunate for being in the US!
A what a fantastic story ... of inclusion, of love and of understanding. Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for your truly Christian comment!👍☺️
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What a wonderful man. This documentary will help many!
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Not many things make me cry, I'm 66 and never been in love, I never allowed myself the luxuray for even believing that's it's possible, I'm glad Some still do find a way .......
That's so tragic. Everybody deserves the pure joy, the feeling of butterflies in your stomach and the fierce protectiveness that comes with being in love. It is still possible, even at your age, if you'd only just believe it it is and then actively search for it. Believe! xx
It's still possible Fred. 66 these days is still relatively young.
so u cried and perhaps need a shrink?
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I was raised in a conservative Roman Catholic home. I knew I was gay from an early age. I stuffed it. I got married to a woman hoping it would "fix" me. It didn't work. I have been with my husband for 25 years. I have never been happier. I will never set foot in a church again.
Thank you for sharing your life to us... it helps to open up windows in our lives.
Thanks Ferdie
Very nice what a uplifting message for us all. What a model you are for all the young men who need someone to lookup too.
My days are coming to an end but you gave me something to hope for tomorrow. May God YAHWEH an YESHUA bless you and
all yours.
Thank you . May you still have many happy and fulfilling days ahead.
Understand. Completely. Done the journey. 33 years ago. Found Christ 37 years ago. Or more - He found me. Even more so now - I have Him and He is so - SO clear He has me. On the day I came to faith - at this new place called church - I said to them - but I guess you guys don't approve of homosexuality? Then. Great days of discovery. And everything was - of course possible. And marriage. God was in charge. And the church would help me through. Until the 'therapy' and healing - didn't bring change. And that day - eight years into marriage when my wife turned to me in my 'counselled to death self' - and said - 'if I can't have a husband I must have children'.
By the mercy of God - we were to fail at that. The IVF failed. Thank God. And then I said - no more. I am gay - and I must accept that - come what may - even though you cannot. I gave my wife everything we had. House - everything. Found a room. Church removed me from all ministry. No one would talk to me. It is still against the rule of that church - ie therapy is offered. So. Separated. Divorced. Utterly broken. But a friend invited me to a group of Christians coming out - coming out of ex-gay - and just looking to Jesus.
That was enough. IE - Jesus was 'enough'. He is. I have a new life. With a partner of 16 years now. We are happy. I haven't a church because I no longer live in the UK. But I have God - and the Holy Spirit just won't let up on me - us. He is faihful - when I am faithless. What we have needed - even when it seemed absolutely impossible - it has been given. Miraculously. Like a house. Even. When I had no money to afford it. But most of all - I have God. He is enough. Entirely. Abundantly. John 10:10.
Hold fast to Christ. Don't be discouraged. Yes 'church' will fail. But faith. And hope. But the greatest - of course - is Love.
Romans 9:20 "Nay but. O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?"
Just what do you mean by this citation? It can be taken in a variety of ways. Please clarify.
Ewww. Can we leave Paul out of this. He was a crazy person who lived 50 years after Jesus and the disciples and is only remembered because of his education, Roman citizenship, and prolific correspondence. He made up everything he wrote.
@@billcullum01 Thank you for your comment. To put it simply, he's saying, "Who am I, the pot, to ask the potter, why did you make me this way"? I find this perfectly logical.
@@garywait3231 To paraphrase: "Who am I, the pot, to ask the potter, "Why did you make me this way?""
@@j8u2 Of course, it does. I admit I saw "Romans" and didn't read further. Good for you!
Why use the derogatory term "queer" to describe homosexual people? Show some respect.
Of course this video is going to raise controversy. Christianity and homosexuality reconciled? In the past, when I heard negatives comments about homosexuality, I usually remained silent. Not now. If you are NOT homosexual, why don't you invest your time and energy in something more productive rather than playing the role of God, quoting the Bible and judging other people. Does it make you feel more powerful and better than others ? Now, if you ARE homosexual or have someone near you who is, probably you need reassurance, love and inner peace or help. Some have lived most of their lives in shame and guilt. A horrible burden. And that hasn't help them to fix the problem. To find a community that is supportive is important, like the guy in this video. However, the bottom line is to find peace and acceptance inside ourselves. And believe that God somehow is going to make you live a life worth living.
I loved this so much! What a kind, amazing, courageous (gorgeous) priest!
I wonder if he was social media.
His ex-wife is the real hero in this video. It is all because of her. He might suffer, but in the end, he got what he wanted. In the other hand, the wife has to make the sacrifices, and I do not see her playing the victim here and crying!
@@Timeless80 she is a hero.
he has chosen the thorny path-much hardships are in store for him-unfortunately -i can see -life spares no one-life is hard and we pay a price for the smallest mistakes-he has committed big blunders -i do not wish him that-but in the process of seeking his own happiness he has hurt many
They probably let her join in sometimes.
For anyone who is a Christian they know there's an issue with this story upfront. There are no "priests" in evangelical churches.
He is in the anglican church
That poor woman.
I am getting the vibe that she entered the marriage for the same reason.....
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
-1 Corinthians 6:9
Please repent and trust in Christ
THANK YOU for sharing this story!!! ❤️❤️❤️
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Thank You. This is so uplifting and giving hope to many. God does love us
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@@xrisandpip2791 HOW DO i FIND THE NEW CHANEL?
you can't change the truth of God because of your emotions.
But your emotions can force you on a journey to question such truths and, ultimately, let you see through dogmas that are so obviously unreasonable that they simply cannot have their origin in an all-reasonable and all-loving entity.
Yes, I feel bad because some people will find out the hard way, and my heart breaks for them. God says not one jot or tittle of his word can be changed. Whether we view it as fair or not, it is unalterable.
@@wmnoffaith1 Then he is a terrible tyrant and not worthy of love, only fear
Well, to each his own. Everyone is free to their own beliefs. No one is forced to love God. We all have free will. My point is that you can't have it both ways. If you are Christian, that means you believe the Bible and honor God's laws. No, you don't have to! But you can't say you're a Christian and break all of God's laws. That's like saying you are a virgin, but having sex. You can't ride the fence. Now you are free to choose parts of the Bible to follow, and have a spiritual journey, because you agree with some of the teachings. That's fine. But then you really can't logically call yourself a Christian, which is what he is doing.
@wmnoffaith1 Give me a break. All Christians pick and choose what they want to understand from the Bible. It's a gigantic collection of literature full of contradictions and almost infinite interpretations, whose six passages seemingly condemning homosexual behavior tend to become quite ambiguous when one reads them in historical context. We all know the famous examples from Leviticus (mixing fabrics, eating shellfish, etc.) that Christians feel they have the right to ignore, while happily citing the supposed prohibition of gay sex. Deuteronomy teaches that parents have the right to stone their disobedient children to death. Both the old and new testaments seemingly condone slavery. Now you might say, "Ah! But you have to read those passages in their historical context!" And I'd say, "yep, that's the point".
For the life of me, I don't understand why homosexuals act like they can't control themselves.
I'm married but yet I'm still attracted to the opposite sex. It doesn't mean that I'm going to tell my spouse one day that I must leave you and live out my truth.
I notice that someone is attractive, and I keep it moving. I don't lust after them, I don't fantasize about them, and I don't leave my spouse for them.
I'm not a dog controlled by my every impulse.
I'm a human being made in the image of God, granted self-control by the Holy Spirit.
Sounds like you can't tell Apples from Oranges if you can't see there is no equivalence between these peoples story and your misleading comparison.
@@seandoherty925
Please explain how it's different.
Oh how arrogant to make onself the model of how others should live their life.... but then again, such arrogance is the very core of many religions. Your comment is nothing but self-serving pride.
@@princefrei
Your comment is self-defeating. By judging me, you are doing exactly that... making "oneself" the model of how others should live their lives... and think.
How arrogant of you!!!
@@janepatton8100 I maintain that most religions are used to puff up the egos of their followers. There is very little substance to validate any of the claims of the various belief-systems, therefore it is a moral duty to resist outlandish claims that some people are "bad" because they are gay. It simply isn't reasonable and what would an all-knowing, all-loving entity such as "God" be if not reasonable?
Thank you for your story. I am glad your family has found peace and happiness ❤️
what makes u think the family has found peace-he may have found momentary pleasure-peace and pleasure are different-family implies the wife and children-scratch the surface there maybe a myriad of emotions beneath the calm stillness
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Such dignity and depth. Maybe we all yearn to experience your connection to the Divine... You touched my Soul... Thank you..
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I loved this entire video, although I felt very strong empathy for Kris, the baby's Mother (if I have her name correct). As far as wishing: I wish at the very end, Pip (the Priest) would have, as he held the Host, smiled, looked fulfilled and happy. And, it the small circles that were rising up in the field of black behind them, I wish they had been coming down, symbolizing Christ's body being available to all the people for whom He died and gave His life, rather than being lifted or taken up, away from the people. This is a tremendous video. I can think, immediately, of at least 2,500 people who I wish I could invite to sit down and watch it.
Amen to that !!! Loved your comment.
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I feel for this family, but I have to say nowhere in the Bible do I see Mary or Jesus advocating for their rights, for justice or for their happiness. Yes, God is love, but that love is sacrificial - it's not one that celebrates self-love and gratification. I know everyone is on their journey, and I hope that what I wrote is read with love, as it was intended.
Throughout the Bible, Gay people are referred to as eunuchs, naturally born eunuchs. Now, in Matthew 19 when Jesus is teaching about marriage, in verse 11 he said, "All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 "For there are some eunuchs, which were born so from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be some eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of Heaven's sake: He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
j8u2 I don’t think you know what a eunuch is... (hint: they’re missing essential pieces of their male anatomy). There are birth defects (intersex) where children are born without all their reproductive organs, and there were people who were made into eunuchs (usually slaves or servants in influential households)
@@ellyclaire1996 I'm not sure why you would assume that I don't know this. I have a Master's degree in social work, so I've had more classes on gender identity, human sexuality and human development than the average schmoe. I'm fully aware of what a eunich is and I'm fully aware that nobody in this documentary is a eunich, a hermaphrodite, or an intersexed individual. Not really sure what your point is other than perhaps assuming that you know these things and nobody else does, which of course is a false assumption
@@ellyclaire1996 I apologize Elly, I see that you were responding to someone who responded to my original comment and not me. He's not super off base by quoting this verse though, it's often used as the basis for Roman Catholic's vow of celibacy for priests - eunuchs not in a physical sense, but those who choose to be celibate for the sake of the kingdom.
This makes me so happy. I hope the awareness of this grows in the church! Just be you! ❤️💛💚💙💜
Thanks for the encouragement, Rae! Pip and I have a new RUclips channel where we talk all about connecting to your authentic self
The thing I noticed the most was the unconditional love. Too bad most churches I have attended have not been loving places and I am a straight older lady who needs fellowship.. I feel excluded in most churches. They have become money oriented and not
Houses of prayer and restoration for broken people who need a savoir named Jesus! I am not saying I agree with what was presented in this video, but there was undeniably love there.
Mary Wolfe no! Love only exists when we are in grace with God. You mistakenly saw desire as love. There can be no love without God. And Jesus said to love God is to obey His Law. Pray for these people but don’t encourage their lifestyle.
Et Tu Judas!😈❣🔥☦
Thank you for your vulnerable sharing, Mary! Pip and I have a new RUclips channel where we'd love to connect with you