A quick update after 8 years: the solenoid broke again. I think this time it is the rubber part that is getting old. Need to open the valve and look, but in the meantime it flooded my engine. I had to do an oil change in order to avoid engine damage. Check your oil level before you ride, especially when you encounter a lot of smoke when you start the engine!
I didn’t have a solenoid issue but a problem with my Husqvarna YTH21K46 surging. Your video is the absolute best on RUclips for accessing the carb, removing the solenoid and putting everything back together again. Cleaning my carb and replacing all the gaskets fixed my mower, but I’m still saving this video for future reference. Thanks!!
Thanks for this video. My local dealer gave me what I thought was the wrong part but your video confirmed that it was indeed correct and your procedure was spot on.
Thanks for the video. Ordered the kit, followed your instructions and the mower is back and running properly. This worked perfectly on my Husqvarna yth20k46.
Well done video. I completed the solenoid replacement on a YTH21K46 according to the video and everything worked - especially the mower cranking and running after i finished! :)
I'd rather pull the solenoid and clean it with PB Blaster. Just did mine, took less than 15 minutes. Good vid for those changing it the whole carb out. Surprising that they're only around $20.
Great info, very helpful. Got to love RUclips! This beats calling down to Home Depot and talking to some ding dong in the rental department to try to get an idea of what the problem is.
These engines have so many issues it blows my mind that Kohler has not been sued over a the bad design. Be sure to check the sump bolts up under the top blower cover, if they come loose it will crack the case and you’ll need a new engine. When I service these engines I remove them clean the oil off threads and install red locktite then torque them to spec.
Good professional video, always nice to see the proper way to fix things! Using some metallic heat tape will also prevent this issue, and be a little less costly. Cutting the solenoid tip off works too, but as you said, it can still Backfire. Normally I would just throttle the engine rpm down to low, then shut it off. That usually that prevents the backfiring when the solenoids are cut. Cheers from Ontario Canada!
Just got my first one of these motors. It’s here for a no start. Was wondering if I could cut the tip like I usually do in Gensets. Thanks for the info…also going to install an inline fuel shut off valve. Troy Bilt Bronco! Thanks for taking the time to comment on the video! 🔧🇺🇸🤙🏻🦅
The solenoid isn’t polarized: connector went in either way. There’s a small gasket for the solenoid that was with my kit that isn’t shown on this video. Great video!
Welcome, that's what RUclips is for. And you are not alone with your solenoid. I just walked by my neighbors, and his John Deere had the same problem ...
Save you money all you got to do is take a set of vice grips pinch the gas line put your cutoff in place on the line take the silanode out break that little rod off put that thing back up in there and typed the wire up it'll be just fine cut the gas off in the winter when you don't use the mower
Thanks for the good information about fuel issues I've been dealing with for years. Good mower, but every spring I have been changing parts only the have the same problem next mowing season. Nice job of troubleshooting the solenoid Mr. mygiguser. Appreciate your effort and intellect!
Helpful video. I just finished this same repair after watching this video and using the instructions included in the kit. I would add that you should plug the connector of the new wiring harness into the solenoid socket before tightening the nuts to the carb because there will be very little room for your fingers otherwise. That step seemed to be missing from the written instructions. The plug appears to fit either way - i.e. apparently without regard to polarity (or I got lucky). My mower cranks right up now.
Yeah, i did connect the solenoid wire before i tightened the nuts. That was in the part of the video that was running fast ... Thanks for your comment!
OK, i checked mine. Even though the plug is keyed, it fits in both directions. I measured the internal coil against the metal housing, and there is no connection. And that means, that it doesn't matter which way you connect it. You have a 100/100 chance to get it right! The original solenoid was different, one of the pins was common ground with the metal housing of the solenoid.
All that work and the motor knocks like a Jehovah’s Witness I hate those bucket engines, the sump cover bolts vibrate out and hits the flywheel, and in most cases cracks the engine block.
really ? please - tell me about the engine knock in my kohler 27 hp v twin. sounds like a pushrod at low rpm ? i was going to do the valve adjustment but you say - ????? they all knock like this ? please explain. my briggs never made noise like this. any info is appreciated
This video has me intrigued. I have a 2001 Cub Cadet 2166 with the 16 hp Kohler Command engine. When it's hot out, and I have been cutting for awhile, the engine sounds like it kind of misfires. It's rather subtle. If I throttle down it doesn't idle as smooth as it does when it's cooler. If I turn it off and on again, sometimes there will be a puff of black smoke out of the exhaust. That tells me it has to be fuel. Sometimes it may even stall when starting up again. The engine itself runs great until it heats up enough, and that's only on real hot days. Also, sometimes when I turn it off at low idle, it will backfire. If I turn it off at half throttle it's fine. If I am doing other tasks, and running at about 1/2 or 2/3 throttle, it never has a problem. It's just on hot days, running full throttle while cutting for an hour or two. I've been stumped for so long what it could be. Could it be my fuel solenoid?
That is very much possible. Puff and black smoke means too much gas, but misfire means not enough gas or missing ignition. If the fuel solenoid doesn't close, then the gas can flow into the carburetor and flood the engine. If that only happens, when it's hot, then maybe that's your problem. I would say it's worth a try.
Thanks for the reply. One time after I was done cutting the grass on a hot day last year, I turned it off like I always do to clean the deck off with the air compressor. After I got done and started it back up, it stalled on me driving to the shed. I had to use full choke, on a hot engine, to keep it going. I didn't like that, so I turned it off and let it set for a couple minutes or so. It then started up like normal, and I could finish driving to the shed. It hasn't done that since. Does that sound like it could have been the solenoid? After viewing your video I went out to the shed to see if I could hear the solenoid clicking. I never noticed before, but when I turn the key, there is no clicking sound from the solenoid. My 2166 has about 500 hours, but I keep it clean. This odd issue has been driving me nuts for a few years now. lol
Yeah, I saw that video. I found it quite interesting. I will keep it in mind when I get around to changing the solenoid. I also saw your unboxing video of the repair kit for your machine. The repair kit that I found that appears to be for mine is a bit different. The solenoid is shorter and wider than the old one. It also doesn't seem to come with a heat shield or any gaskets like yours did. I hope the new Kohler design is more durable than the old one. I'm surprised how expensive such a small part is.
Thanks for sharing. What I don't get is why the rear carburetor stud doesn't thread to the engine. It's really a flaky design and makes it a huge pain in the neck to install the carburetor if you don't have the OEM gasket.
I just sub'd. Funny I just ordered a new carb kit too. I may also have to replace safety switch but I'll know more when the kit gets here. Old mowers made new again.
Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why it doesn't start when it gets hot. The supposedly lawnmower mechanic I brought it to 6 times apparently needs more skrewling.
Yes that to. It's a friends mower. I actually found out that he already cut the solenoid end off previously and that it was WATER in the gas can cuz the can had a crack in it at the top. Long story short after hours I just picked up a new carb. I don't think that was the first time there was water in the gas.
Amazing video. I have a cub cadet xt1 lt46, which I believe has the 22-HP V-Twin KOHLER. After about 4 years, now when the mower get's hot (about 15 minutes into running) it stutters and stalls out - like when you're trying to mow too thick of grass that's wet. Not so much when it's colder out, only when it's warmer in late spring/summer. Acted like bad gas or fuel filter.. I've literally changed everything I could thing of, EXCEPT for the fuel solenoid; plugs, gas filter, ignition coils (twice) and made sure they're spaced correctly. Nothing has worked. Ordered the Kohler OEM Engine Repair Kit Solenoid Fuel Shut-Off kit from amazon. Hoping this is it.. and your video works for guidance on replacing mine.
@@RPSGT88 new Carburetor didn't fix my issue. Runs fine for 15 minutes until it gets hot, then stutters and stalls intermittently. The guy I ordered the carb from suggested it may be my clutch. I'm not sure I even have one... 2015 Cub Cadet Xt1. Can't seem to find a clutch on any schematics for my model. Assuming that means is a manual PTO. I guess.
@@jerrollarrieu303 no. Tried about everything. Even running a lead directly from the battery to the positive wire on the solenoid, still stutters after it gets hot. I’m waiting to get through my current can of regular unleaded and go back to premium, it seemed like it ran better on premium… although I’m not 100% sure on that.. lol just trying anything.
Thanks for the video, I followed the instructions, all the problems get solved. The first time started as champ but then i need to use starting fluid to turn on the tractor. Do you know what I could do wrong?
I have been trying to find the same gasket kit that you have in this video. Do you have a part number for the gasket kit? Everything else worked great. I had to try some other gasket methods to make my mower work.
I just recently installed a new carburetor on the same mower and it runs like the RPMs go up and down pulsing. Didn't do b4 and only leaked fuel from solenoid b4 too.
@@23BeRAD Your engine manual has a "Carburetor Troubleshooting and Adjustments" section. You're supposed to have a RPM gauge on the cylinders spark plug to monitor RPM i think. But there's a low idle set screw and a fuel mixture screw on the carb itself that u can usually get to. Some also have a governor gear on them. You could check if you have one of those to adjust too. Also, they make spark detectors. An in between cord that goes from your spark plug to the plug wire. It has a clear bulb fuse type filament in it. And it shows how much charge, and at what interval the spark is being sent to plug. If it's not constant, it could indicate a coil problem. Watch Taryl.
If your still having issues with this, I know it's real old reply. Your issue is with your governor. Look for videos on how to adjust it or look for broken or missing springs on linkage or lever.
Does it matter which way the connector on the solenoid goes? I noticed it’s squared on the bottom but the wiring harness is different. One side round and one side squared. It all came together in the kit. Noticed the old one is the same also
@@mygiguser It probably will reverse the polarity of the electromagnet reversing the direction of the center pushing probe when energized....up (off) instead of down. The probe needs to spring upward to shut off the gas feed when not energized. The local small engine shop wanted $92 plus 8% tax just for a new solenoid for an 18 hp Kohler. A brand new complete carb is on its way with all new: inline filter, solenoid, 2 gaskets, wiring harness, even a zip tie...and free shipping for $17.22 plus 1.38 tax, or $18.60 total. (NewCarb in New Jersey) Ships from CA.
The solenoid for a sv 620 kohler has changed so i ordered a new carb that comes with a solenoid. I will install the new carb is there is any problem with the solenoid. .The carb with solenoid was as cheap as the solenoid alone.
I just replaced the carb on my engine. I hope I got all the bits & bobs in the right place! When I tested both the new and the old solenoid by touching them to battery terminals (both polarities) both of them seemed dead. I expected them to click, but no... The old one seemed definitely stuck, while the new one had a removable pin and spring. What could I be doing wrong? I actually have not tried running it...
I have 2008 troy bilt bronco with this engine and it was cutting out after running engine for about 25 minutes, so I had the solenoid repair kit and replaced all gaskets, solenoid and it still cuts out like it's running out gas within 25 minutes. Not sure what else to do except cut the plunger off solenoid so it cant do this. Any suggestions?
Hey bro. Great work. I'm working on my dad's right now. Can you help us. We put a new carb. And silo. On and forgot how to hook up the red wire and black wire on the plug in . Does it matter which side does the red wire go and the black wire or can it go to either one
Good job on the video. Maybe you can tell me if it would cover my problem with my 25 horse Koehler engine. When mine gets hot it refuses to start. It doesn`t "click" it just turns real slow for a second then nothing. If I let it sit for a bit it will fire up again like normal. I've always had to use the choke to start it, even when it's hot. Last year my dealer told me it was the valves that needed adjusting. They did it for $160 and it worked well for a year, now it's doing it again. I've changed my battery, starter and ignition switch. Do you think this solinoid fix might be a good place to go looking forward? Thanks for the help, you do great service for us little guys. Never mind the negativity from the jerks. You can't please everyone
Do you smell gas when you attempt to restart it when hot? If you do, pull the spark plug and see if it's wet. If not, then the engine is probably not getting enough fuel which seems to be the case since you have to choke it when restarting all the time. The carb float could be stuck with a bad solinoid. Check the solinoid by unscrewing it and turning the igniton on/off and see if it moves. It should. While doing that, empty any dirt from the carb bowl. Good luck.
At the point where you need to put on the new heat shield, i saw a hose going from the transmission to somewhere. Then I thought it wouldn't fit but ended up fitting like a f***ing glove! Cant even fit a nail between, ahaha. And now im just waiting on getting some carb cleaner :-)
The solenoid on my engine has very little clearance between it and the fuel bowl. A standard wrench it's too thick to fit in there. Any suggestions on options? I'm not even sure what size wrench it would be. Yours appeared to have much more clearance. When I tried to just turn it by hand the solenoid exterior started to turn but the threaded part did not.
@@mygiguser okay thanks. Yeah I can't even really see to judge the size. I'll guesstimate and give it a try. I'm not really having a problem with the solenoid, the carb needs to be cleaned out. Thanks for letting me know I appreciate it.
Be careful. My throttle was stuck open on my Kohler courage and turned out the inner throttle butterfly had came loose and the the screws and butterfly went into the engine. It ate the screws but thankfully the valve stopped the butterfly. I used loctite on the screws to prevent a repeat. It runs now but its having low RPMs so I am changing the solenoid next.
why are you putting a new longer stud in cylinder head?? I had to order me a whole new carb apparently my motor was loose caused my solenoid wire to break, I could have just done the solenoid but decided to get the whole new think since its 11 years old actually it was really clean.. just confused about the stud, mine hasn't came in yet still waiting
They only want a little over $100 bucks for that solenoid. Mine went out just two months after the mower was purchased so they're really built to last! I think I'll clip the tip, install a fuel shut off valve and avoid Kohler purchases from now on.
Hi. I've recently got the problem of my engine surging and backfiring. I've cleaned the carb as best I can but it's hasn't fixed it. Could this be caused by a faulty solenoid?
Robc509 not really, backfiring when you turn the engine off is the solenoid, but surging is something else. Maybe you have two problems at once. A missing heat shield could cause surging, if the engine is extremely hot. Gasoline boiling, and bubbles causing the surging.
Yes, the solenoid is supposed to block the flow of gasoline in the carburetor when you turn the ignition off. Here in this video i show my broken solenoid ruclips.net/video/zUWEN2XCUro/видео.html
If you shut the engine down at full throttle it won't backfire. The solenoid blocks the main jet. If you shut down at low speeds the solenoid doesn't block the idle passage so it can still pull fuel and backfire.
Where can I buy a new solenoid kit and be sure I get all the parts (including heat shield)? I have a Craftsman riding mower with a CV490 Kohler engine.
I have a question on the throttle linkage set up I put a new carb on new solenoid on and and started it up and it acts like it wants to shut off everything is back in place idk if the throttle cable is stretched or what
Well, when you replace the carb, you need to set the idle speed first, then adjust your throttle cable. When you pull the throttle, does the carb go full throttle?
mygiguser no I set it on choke start the lawn mower and it starts up but when I lower the throttle speed it acts like it wants to bog out I pull the hood up and there’s a cable moving by itself and when I hold that cable in place it runs just fine that’s the cable with the spring on it is the one that’s moving
I’m not a mechanic, so my question is, what do I do when gas gets int my oil? Pulled my dip stick out and it smells like gas. And it’s been blowing out white smoke.
Do not run the engine!!! You need to do the solenoid repair first, then do an oil change and filter change. After that run the engine and see if it got damaged. How was the oil level? Was it far above full?
Don't run the engine! Drain and replace the oil and filter and the needle and seat in the carb as well as the solenoid or you'll blow that motors guts all over yourself.
6 years ago my Kohler 20 hp would not start. It had sat for 2 years because of my health, anyway my neighbor came and took it to his shop and found that the solenoid plunger was not moving up and down like it should...saw a RUclips video that showed to cut off the solenoid plunger at its lowest point, replacing it in the carburetor but putting a simple on/off fuel switch between the tank and carburetor. Problem solved but you have to manually turn fuel on and off and I am able to allow fuel to run out before putting it up for the winter. This is not for everyone to do but it was very easy and cost about 6 dollars for the fuel switch and line. I just know that you must cut the plunger off at it's lowest point.
Why did you replace the solenoid , I've never seen anybody not be able to bring one back to perfect working order with carb cleaner and a little brush.
It was stuck, the plastic inside was deformed by the heat from the exhaust. See my video about that particular solenoid: ruclips.net/video/zUWEN2XCUro/видео.html
@@mygiguser I will try that, I have to find a thin 1/2" open end wrench, mine is too thick. Thanks. I just seen a video where a guy cut that rod off with a dremel tool and now it does not shut off........fixed, kind of. I am looking to see what the replacement cost is before I do something like that. I got some bad fuel in the tank last fall and now here I am. I have a new filter and fuel, but it is not making it to the carb. I will try your method next, thanks.
I think it matters, but i am not sure. The red wire is the power wire, and the black one is the ground wire, if there is a connection between the solenoid housing and the ground wire (i don't know, if there is one), then you will create a short, if you connect the black wire to the red one coming from the ignition switch. My recommendation: don't connect the red wire with the black wire!
Right, i know where to attach the wires to the mower, red to ignition and black is ground. I meant, when you plug those wires to the solenoid, the white plug of the wires can plug into the black slot on the solenoid either way. So if say, I'm looking at the solenoid in my hand with the black plug (with the two prongs) facing me, would the ground go to the left prong or right prong on solenoid? I hope I'm describing that right. Thanks for reply.
The plug fits only in one direction? When you look at the connectors, the connector housing pointing towards you, then black is left and the red is right on the one i used.
Jason Anderson try run SEAFOAM thur a couple tanks my cub cadet was surging and after one tank it cleared up and has been running fine until the fuel solenoid went bad. Mine started backfiring when I cut it off sign of solenoid was going bad . Read can of SEAFOAM it will state how much to use per gallon of gas . And use only ethanol free gas regular pump gas not good for small engines.
HI, my engine fires, doesn't run at full rpm's, PTO cranks engine almost dies, going uphill engine almost dies, I can smell gas but no smoke visible, fuel lines and pump/filter are good as well as carburetor. Any ideas?
Austin McFarlane so many things come to mind. Adjusting the valves, measure compression, replace/adjust ignition coil, fuel filter could be clogged. I have videos on some of those issues. The valve adjustment as well as the ignition coil seems to be popular.
Need some help. I knew changing the carburetor was too easy to be true. I had a fuel leak and solenoid wire broke. Changed with new carburetor and solenoid. Ran for awhile and started acting like it wanted to die. Figured I had to adjust those speed and fuel screws. Took everything off and the solenoid wires had been melting. Didn’t think I needed a second heat shield since I didn’t need before. Ordered and new wires and gaskets. Tried again. Engine started to turn over then nothing. I get nothing now. No lights. No click. Even switched the red and black wires thinking it was backwards.
mygiguser well I’m gonna have to turn in to the professionals. Battery is new but I did check. Don’t know where the solenoid fuse is. I checked the 20amp fuse under the battery. Blows when I put a new one and turn the key. The shop couldn’t just test the ignition switch I brought in today. I think the connector that the red solenoid wire attaches to is damaged by heat I was getting. ?? The heat shield doesn’t fit as perfect as yours did but I don’t think that would matter. This girl is defeated. Thanks for a great video and answering so quickly.
@@mygiguser always ran. I just found the real culprit on my Kohler 12.5 hp. The block was filling with gas. What the problem was caused by is the....... FUEL PUMP DIPHRAM . It has a split in it and when the needle would stop the fuel from entering the float bowl it overcame that resistance and would pump the crankcase full of fuel to the point it would stop running. Unless you smelled the dipstick and got out a microscope you can't see gas on a dipstick very easily. Most Briggs have an external fuel pump that isn't mechanical, like the one Kohler uses. It's operated by a cam lobe similar to GMs older 350 , 283 ,327 etc. Anyway my problem is solved. Thanks
@@mygiguser ive got a kohler courage 19 twin cam and the fuel solenoid is different not the cable doesn't come out of the solenoid it snaps in im wondering what im to do with the ground cable that is attached to the carburetor ? plus i paid 69$ for it and they looked up the wrong part so discussed you would think a lawn mower shop would be right, i looked at the part number I had and it isn't a match now it will be after the 4th before i get to mow
I"m with you, I got too deep into the whole process myself when all I needed to do is change the solenoid, which conveniently hangs off the bottom and can be removed without getting into the carb/gaskets and such (which at some point probably should be replaced)
The solenoid for the HUAYI carburetor is not available. I've looked all over the internet. Lots of websites show the solenoid but no one has it available.
Tim D you could try a new carburetor, it comes with solenoid, but i don’t know if that fits. And the heat shield is not in the carb kit either. But that would be better than nothing.
You can bypass that solenoid just take the solenoid out grind it down on a grinder level with the threaded part of it put yourself a fuel shut off valve in between the carburetor and the filter problem solved you don't need to buy a solenoid okay you don't even need that thing it's junk they last about 2 years and they go out on you again
Hello. I'm wondering if you can recommend a place to buy a Backfire solenoid for kohler courage 23 as our local tractor dealer said they no longer make the one that we need and I must buy the entire carburetor for $500 Help! Thank you
Thanks for your help, I call partstree and they said the same thing that Kohler said, don't sell the solenoid anymore and the carb would have to be purchased for $300 - YUCK!
First time working on one of these for a friend. Can't say I like these engines. The whole bucket engine idea is kinda weird. The small engine shop in bum fucked egypt ran a wire from the solenoid to the ignition. That wire burned up to nothing. Thankfully the wire harness survived. Every time I connected the battery the 20A fuse popped. Sitting there scratching my head. Finally popped the flywheel off and sure enough, magnets on the flywheel were pulverized shorting out the stator.
@@mygiguser So this is how to add a heat shield. Replacing a solenoid can be done with the carb. in place, just unscrew the old and screw in the new. Or is the heat shield to protect the solenoid?
@@mygiguser The video is still titled "How to fix the Kohler Solenoid Problem the Right Way" It doesn't say squat about a carberator. Your response is "silly". (Just being politically correct)
Dude, you could replace the solenoid with carb still on I guess. But for the repair to be effectual, he's takin the carb off and putting the heat shield on. Changing some gaskets and hardware too. He's not taking the carb apart to repair it. Do you know what a carb repair looks like? If you did, I don't think you'd be nitpicking in such a "silly" way. Cuz carb repairs take apart the carb and clean each part using elec cleaners or other solutions. And ya MyTech, the heatshield is to protect the solenoid from overheating and failing. Carb itself does not need any temp protection.
So, is this guy saying I shouldn’t have taken a 24 pound sledge hammer and beaten the hell out my tractor and then started it on fire because it wouldn’t start?
There still going to be a problem the solenoid is going to go bad again. they are trash . the best way to fix this problem is by pass it, an put a a shut of valve in the gas line to turn the gas off your self .. There nothing but a anti backfire . if you shut you fuel off. an then run the mower till it uses all the gas out of the carb you wont have the back fire prob . easy fix . an save you many down the road .. some of these solenoids can cost you upwards to 90$
A quick update after 8 years: the solenoid broke again. I think this time it is the rubber part that is getting old. Need to open the valve and look, but in the meantime it flooded my engine. I had to do an oil change in order to avoid engine damage. Check your oil level before you ride, especially when you encounter a lot of smoke when you start the engine!
Do you have a link for the heat shield kit? I can’t find it on ebay
I didn’t have a solenoid issue but a problem with my Husqvarna YTH21K46 surging. Your video is the absolute best on RUclips for accessing the carb, removing the solenoid and putting everything back together again. Cleaning my carb and replacing all the gaskets fixed my mower, but I’m still saving this video for future reference. Thanks!!
This is the ONLY video that shows the rear carb stud proper placement. THANK YOU!
Thanks for this video. My local dealer gave me what I thought was the wrong part but your video confirmed that it was indeed correct and your procedure was spot on.
Thanks for the video. Ordered the kit, followed your instructions and the mower is back and running properly. This worked perfectly on my Husqvarna yth20k46.
same here!!!
Well done video. I completed the solenoid replacement on a YTH21K46 according to the video and everything worked - especially the mower cranking and running after i finished! :)
I'd rather pull the solenoid and clean it with PB Blaster. Just did mine, took less than 15 minutes. Good vid for those changing it the whole carb out. Surprising that they're only around $20.
Yeah agree heap easier on time saving but good vid for those that need to do the carb. if krud got thru 🍻
Great info, very helpful. Got to love RUclips! This beats calling down to Home Depot and talking to some ding dong in the rental department to try to get an idea of what the problem is.
These engines have so many issues it blows my mind that Kohler has not been sued over a the bad design. Be sure to check the sump bolts up under the top blower cover, if they come loose it will crack the case and you’ll need a new engine. When I service these engines I remove them clean the oil off threads and install red locktite then torque them to spec.
Is it mainly Kohler's single 20/21hp engines? I'm looking at a bad boy 54" with the 26hp twin and wonder if they fixed previous issues?
Good professional video, always nice to see the proper way to fix things!
Using some metallic heat tape will also prevent this issue, and be a little less costly.
Cutting the solenoid tip off works too, but as you said, it can still Backfire. Normally I would just throttle the engine rpm down to low, then shut it off. That usually that prevents the backfiring when the solenoids are cut.
Cheers from Ontario Canada!
Just got my first one of these motors. It’s here for a no start. Was wondering if I could cut the tip like I usually do in Gensets.
Thanks for the info…also going to install an inline fuel shut off valve.
Troy Bilt Bronco!
Thanks for taking the time to comment on the video! 🔧🇺🇸🤙🏻🦅
Thanks for a great video - fixed our starting & backfire problems. Yay!
Thanks for posting this. Well done and concise.
The solenoid isn’t polarized: connector went in either way. There’s a small gasket for the solenoid that was with my kit that isn’t shown on this video. Great video!
IT IS TOO POLARIZED! I HOOKED UP THE POS AND NEG. AND THEN NEG AND POS.
THE SOLENOID PLUNGER WHENT DOWN BOTH WAYS.
SOO DO YOU HAVE SOMEHTING TO SAY?
Thank you! I don't even know how much money you just saved me
Welcome, that's what RUclips is for. And you are not alone with your solenoid. I just walked by my neighbors, and his John Deere had the same problem ...
Save you money all you got to do is take a set of vice grips pinch the gas line put your cutoff in place on the line take the silanode out break that little rod off put that thing back up in there and typed the wire up it'll be just fine cut the gas off in the winter when you don't use the mower
Thanks for the good information about fuel issues I've been dealing with for years. Good mower, but every spring I have been changing parts only the have the same problem next mowing season. Nice job of troubleshooting the solenoid Mr. mygiguser. Appreciate your effort and intellect!
Can confirm this part worked great for cub cadet ltx1045 with Koehler courage 20, ordered from amazon. 32 bucks
I own the same machine. Any chance you have the link for this kit on Amazon
Helpful video. I just finished this same repair after watching this video and using the instructions included in the kit. I would add that you should plug the connector of the new wiring harness into the solenoid socket before tightening the nuts to the carb because there will be very little room for your fingers otherwise. That step seemed to be missing from the written instructions. The plug appears to fit either way - i.e. apparently without regard to polarity (or I got lucky). My mower cranks right up now.
Yeah, i did connect the solenoid wire before i tightened the nuts. That was in the part of the video that was running fast ...
Thanks for your comment!
mygiguser para mi tractor
OK, i checked mine. Even though the plug is keyed, it fits in both directions. I measured the internal coil against the metal housing, and there is no connection. And that means, that it doesn't matter which way you connect it. You have a 100/100 chance to get it right! The original solenoid was different, one of the pins was common ground with the metal housing of the solenoid.
Trenton Jennings
Well that’s great you had to fix the lights too and make a clicking noise awesome job what the hell is the proper way
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All that work and the motor knocks like a Jehovah’s Witness I hate those bucket engines, the sump cover bolts vibrate out and hits the flywheel, and in most cases cracks the engine block.
really ? please - tell me about the engine knock in my kohler 27 hp v twin. sounds like a pushrod at low rpm ? i was going to do the valve adjustment but you say - ????? they all knock like this ? please explain. my briggs never made noise like this. any info is appreciated
This video has me intrigued. I have a 2001 Cub Cadet 2166 with the 16 hp Kohler Command engine. When it's hot out, and I have been cutting for awhile, the engine sounds like it kind of misfires. It's rather subtle. If I throttle down it doesn't idle as smooth as it does when it's cooler. If I turn it off and on again, sometimes there will be a puff of black smoke out of the exhaust. That tells me it has to be fuel. Sometimes it may even stall when starting up again. The engine itself runs great until it heats up enough, and that's only on real hot days. Also, sometimes when I turn it off at low idle, it will backfire. If I turn it off at half throttle it's fine. If I am doing other tasks, and running at about 1/2 or 2/3 throttle, it never has a problem. It's just on hot days, running full throttle while cutting for an hour or two. I've been stumped for so long what it could be. Could it be my fuel solenoid?
That is very much possible. Puff and black smoke means too much gas, but misfire means not enough gas or missing ignition. If the fuel solenoid doesn't close, then the gas can flow into the carburetor and flood the engine. If that only happens, when it's hot, then maybe that's your problem. I would say it's worth a try.
Thanks for the reply. One time after I was done cutting the grass on a hot day last year, I turned it off like I always do to clean the deck off with the air compressor. After I got done and started it back up, it stalled on me driving to the shed. I had to use full choke, on a hot engine, to keep it going. I didn't like that, so I turned it off and let it set for a couple minutes or so. It then started up like normal, and I could finish driving to the shed. It hasn't done that since. Does that sound like it could have been the solenoid?
After viewing your video I went out to the shed to see if I could hear the solenoid clicking. I never noticed before, but when I turn the key, there is no clicking sound from the solenoid.
My 2166 has about 500 hours, but I keep it clean. This odd issue has been driving me nuts for a few years now. lol
+Syxx423 yes, it should click. If it doesn't click, then it's not fast enough. And who knows if it opens and closes all the way.
+Syxx423 did you see the video where I took my old solenoid apart? ruclips.net/video/zUWEN2XCUro/видео.html
Yeah, I saw that video. I found it quite interesting. I will keep it in mind when I get around to changing the solenoid. I also saw your unboxing video of the repair kit for your machine. The repair kit that I found that appears to be for mine is a bit different. The solenoid is shorter and wider than the old one. It also doesn't seem to come with a heat shield or any gaskets like yours did. I hope the new Kohler design is more durable than the old one. I'm surprised how expensive such a small part is.
What a great video! I love seeing it in fast forward. Brilliant
Squirrels chewed through my wires, does red wire on solenoid attach to long wire coming across top of engine from magneto?
It goes to the engine connector, and from there to the key switch. It basically gets powered up when your turn the 'ignition' on.
Thanks for sharing. What I don't get is why the rear carburetor stud doesn't thread to the engine. It's really a flaky design and makes it a huge pain in the neck to install the carburetor if you don't have the OEM gasket.
i know, it's a great design.
I just sub'd. Funny I just ordered a new carb kit too. I may also have to replace safety switch but I'll know more when the kit gets here. Old mowers made new again.
Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why it doesn't start when it gets hot. The supposedly lawnmower mechanic I brought it to 6 times apparently needs more skrewling.
John D no he just likes your money.
Yes that to. It's a friends mower. I actually found out that he already cut the solenoid end off previously and that it was WATER in the gas can cuz the can had a crack in it at the top. Long story short after hours I just picked up a new carb. I don't think that was the first time there was water in the gas.
same here so i started doing it myself
Amazing video. I have a cub cadet xt1 lt46, which I believe has the 22-HP V-Twin KOHLER.
After about 4 years, now when the mower get's hot (about 15 minutes into running) it stutters and stalls out - like when you're trying to mow too thick of grass that's wet. Not so much when it's colder out, only when it's warmer in late spring/summer. Acted like bad gas or fuel filter..
I've literally changed everything I could thing of, EXCEPT for the fuel solenoid; plugs, gas filter, ignition coils (twice) and made sure they're spaced correctly. Nothing has worked. Ordered the Kohler OEM Engine Repair Kit Solenoid Fuel Shut-Off kit from amazon. Hoping this is it.. and your video works for guidance on replacing mine.
@@RPSGT88 I ended up ordering an new carburetor that comes with the solenoid, have yet to install it to see if that fixes it.
@@RPSGT88 new Carburetor didn't fix my issue. Runs fine for 15 minutes until it gets hot, then stutters and stalls intermittently. The guy I ordered the carb from suggested it may be my clutch. I'm not sure I even have one... 2015 Cub Cadet Xt1. Can't seem to find a clutch on any schematics for my model. Assuming that means is a manual PTO. I guess.
@@JaredAkers My Cub Cadet is doing the same thing. Did you ever solve your problem. Thanks
@@jerrollarrieu303 no. Tried about everything. Even running a lead directly from the battery to the positive wire on the solenoid, still stutters after it gets hot. I’m waiting to get through my current can of regular unleaded and go back to premium, it seemed like it ran better on premium… although I’m not 100% sure on that.. lol just trying anything.
My only question was: what symptoms did the mower have that made you think it might be the solenoid?
Michael Rowe backfiring, and problems starting up when hot, and gasoline in engine oil.
Ok got it! Thank you for responding to my question!
@@mygiguser
I got a Kohler courage 17hp on my husky ride on, looks similar to your 20hp?
where did you get that new heat shield from? TY!
came with the kit
This was an awesome video... “GREAT JOB AND VIDEO LOOKED GREAT TOO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
May you have a blessed day, every day. 💫💫💫👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you much!
My push mower did it and I just grinded off the plunger and put a shut off valve on like the good old days
How did you get the bowl of to clean it?
unscrew the valve on the bottom
Thanks
Great video ! I have the same engine, great for people who likes to tinker for sure lol!
Thanks for the video, I followed the instructions, all the problems get solved. The first time started as champ but then i need to use starting fluid to turn on the tractor. Do you know what I could do wrong?
I have been trying to find the same gasket kit that you have in this video. Do you have a part number for the gasket kit? Everything else worked great. I had to try some other gasket methods to make my mower work.
Eric Riegner the number is in the gasket video (link in the description)
I just recently installed a new carburetor on the same mower and it runs like the RPMs go up and down pulsing. Didn't do b4 and only leaked fuel from solenoid b4 too.
you got a bad carburetor?
@@mygiguser it was new! What could be a possible issue with a new one?
@@23BeRAD Your engine manual has a "Carburetor Troubleshooting and Adjustments" section. You're supposed to have a RPM gauge on the cylinders spark plug to monitor RPM i think. But there's a low idle set screw and a fuel mixture screw on the carb itself that u can usually get to. Some also have a governor gear on them. You could check if you have one of those to adjust too.
Also, they make spark detectors. An in between cord that goes from your spark plug to the plug wire. It has a clear bulb fuse type filament in it. And it shows how much charge, and at what interval the spark is being sent to plug. If it's not constant, it could indicate a coil problem. Watch Taryl.
What were your symptoms? Mine dies under PTO load after about three minutes. Great video.
misfire, and gasoline running into the airfilter, flooding the engine
If your still having issues with this, I know it's real old reply. Your issue is with your governor. Look for videos on how to adjust it or look for broken or missing springs on linkage or lever.
@@mygiguser spring is finally here in WI. I will take a look. Thank you
Does it matter which way the connector on the solenoid goes? I noticed it’s squared on the bottom but the wiring harness is different. One side round and one side squared. It all came together in the kit. Noticed the old one is the same also
Walter Chavez probably doesn’t matter
Great video by the way. Found the kit with the heat shield also. Issue resolved
@@mygiguser It probably will reverse the polarity of the electromagnet reversing the direction of the center pushing probe when energized....up (off) instead of down. The probe needs to spring upward to shut off the gas feed when not energized. The local small engine shop wanted $92 plus 8% tax just for a new solenoid for an 18 hp Kohler. A brand new complete carb is on its way with all new: inline filter, solenoid, 2 gaskets, wiring harness, even a zip tie...and free shipping for $17.22 plus 1.38 tax, or $18.60 total. (NewCarb in New Jersey) Ships from CA.
The solenoid for a sv 620 kohler has changed so i ordered a new carb that comes with a solenoid. I will install the new carb is there is any problem with the solenoid. .The carb with solenoid was as cheap as the solenoid alone.
I just replaced the carb on my engine. I hope I got all the bits & bobs in the right place! When I tested both the new and the old solenoid by touching them to battery terminals (both polarities) both of them seemed dead. I expected them to click, but no... The old one seemed definitely stuck, while the new one had a removable pin and spring. What could I be doing wrong? I actually have not tried running it...
Jaimes Beam remove the solenoid and test it on a battery, make sure the battery is charged and has the right voltage.
mygiguser As stated above, I tried this, and both solenoids appear dead.
@@jimbaranski4687 bought one is faulty,do a meter test!
Jaz Alessandro I ended up cutting the solenoid pin off to disable it, and using the old carb!
@@jimbaranski4687 cheapest way good stuff 👍
Just did one now to a kohler courage that decided to not start now,lol 🙄
I see alot of these carb kits but none with the additional heat shield
That the worst engine Kohler every put on a mower ,,,1000 % nothing but junk !!
Kohler 25-757-25-S just search for that (Ebay, Amazon, Google, ...)
I have 2008 troy bilt bronco with this engine and it was cutting out after running engine for about 25 minutes, so I had the solenoid repair kit and replaced all gaskets, solenoid and it still cuts out like it's running out gas within 25 minutes. Not sure what else to do except cut the plunger off solenoid so it cant do this. Any suggestions?
Hey bro. Great work. I'm working on my dad's right now. Can you help us. We put a new carb. And silo. On and forgot how to hook up the red wire and black wire on the plug in . Does it matter which side does the red wire go and the black wire or can it go to either one
well, black is ground, and red is power.
Do you know the size of the ground wire bolt?
sorry, i made the video long time ago, i don't recall
Good job on the video. Maybe you can tell me if it would cover my problem with my 25 horse Koehler engine. When mine gets hot it refuses to start. It doesn`t "click" it just turns real slow for a second then nothing. If I let it sit for a bit it will fire up again like normal. I've always had to use the choke to start it, even when it's hot. Last year my dealer told me it was the valves that needed adjusting. They did it for $160 and it worked well for a year, now it's doing it again. I've changed my battery, starter and ignition switch. Do you think this solinoid fix might be a good place to go looking forward? Thanks for the help, you do great service for us little guys. Never mind the negativity from the jerks. You can't please everyone
Do you smell gas when you attempt to restart it when hot? If you do, pull the spark plug and see if it's wet. If not, then the engine is probably not getting enough fuel which seems to be the case since you have to choke it when restarting all the time. The carb float could be stuck with a bad solinoid. Check the solinoid by unscrewing it and turning the igniton on/off and see if it moves. It should. While doing that, empty any dirt from the carb bowl. Good luck.
Forgot to say as mentioned in another comment, spray a cleaner (PB Blaster) on the solinoid and that may save you from buying one.
Can you post links to the parts you used
How do I remove the carb on mine? the solenoid hits the lawnmower frame, so it cannot be pulled off the studs!
hgpo27 Good question. Can you share a picture of that situation?
I just got it, but I had to unbolt a panel attached to the frame, pry it back, and pull the carb over it.
U could also just have had taken the solenoid off. I've seen a video with same problem.
@@toxrozzx8158 Same problem, that what I'm going to have to do. Looking at some videos, the carb comes off so easy. Not mine, lol
@@lynnegudat7605 What kind of mower you got? 👍
At the point where you need to put on the new heat shield, i saw a hose going from the transmission to somewhere. Then I thought it wouldn't fit but ended up fitting like a f***ing glove! Cant even fit a nail between, ahaha.
And now im just waiting on getting some carb cleaner :-)
I bought the kit on Amazon but my heat deflector is different than yours so the kit won't work. Mine doesn't use a gasket with a d-shaped hole
What was a bad solenoid doing? Was it intermittently bogging down when the blades engaged?
backfiring when turning off, bad startup, carb flooded engine, gasoline in oil
The solenoid on my engine has very little clearance between it and the fuel bowl. A standard wrench it's too thick to fit in there. Any suggestions on options? I'm not even sure what size wrench it would be. Yours appeared to have much more clearance. When I tried to just turn it by hand the solenoid exterior started to turn but the threaded part did not.
GB NoMore the solenoids are all different, it is not very tight, maybe grind down your existing tool, or get a cheap thin one
@@mygiguser okay thanks. Yeah I can't even really see to judge the size. I'll guesstimate and give it a try. I'm not really having a problem with the solenoid, the carb needs to be cleaned out. Thanks for letting me know I appreciate it.
@@gbnomore3918 1/2 inch open end
Be careful. My throttle was stuck open on my Kohler courage and turned out the inner throttle butterfly had came loose and the the screws and butterfly went into the engine. It ate the screws but thankfully the valve stopped the butterfly. I used loctite on the screws to prevent a repeat.
It runs now but its having low RPMs so I am changing the solenoid next.
CHALK772 not sure if Loctite is going to help because of the temperature and the gasoline washing it away?!
@@mygiguser any suggestions
Dude why take off carb when it screws right off with it still mounted?
In fast forward it's like watching a crackhead at work. Lol 😋 Amusingly funny and less time consuming.
Thanks for the video! Will this solenoid be fit in KS540 engine? Seems CV engine in the video.
Very much possible.
Did you have to use the old gasket with the new solenoid or did the new solenoid come with a new gasket?
Nick Jones the kit has new gaskets
Thanks, this was a big help!
why are you putting a new longer stud in cylinder head?? I had to order me a whole new carb apparently my motor was loose caused my solenoid wire to break, I could have just done the solenoid but decided to get the whole new think since its 11 years old actually it was really clean.. just confused about the stud, mine hasn't came in yet still waiting
When you add the heatshield a longer stud is needed to reach all the way through the added layer
@@Jp-hv9zj mine is some different i didn't have to do that my heat shield was already there
Hi. I can’t seem to get my fuel solenoid off. I have tried several wrenches. What size did you use?
sorry, i don't remember. They may vary in size.
They only want a little over $100 bucks for that solenoid. Mine went out just two months after the mower was purchased so they're really built to last! I think I'll clip the tip, install a fuel shut off valve and avoid Kohler purchases from now on.
Jeffrey Gleaves does your mower have the heat shielding around the solenoid?
i saw on Ebay a new carburetor with solenoid installed for $15
Jeffrey Gleaves btw mine still works, and when did i make this video, 4 years ago!?
Hi. I've recently got the problem of my engine surging and backfiring. I've cleaned the carb as best I can but it's hasn't fixed it. Could this be caused by a faulty solenoid?
Robc509 not really, backfiring when you turn the engine off is the solenoid, but surging is something else. Maybe you have two problems at once. A missing heat shield could cause surging, if the engine is extremely hot. Gasoline boiling, and bubbles causing the surging.
Any know where you can get a new solenoid for the 22 hp courage mdl sv620?
amazon or ebay?
@@mygiguser thx ordered it..ebay
What is the solenoid function? I have a problem with that same motor and it is losing fuel when I stop it.
OsomaX Photography it is supposed to stop the fuel when you turn the engine off. All that is necessary because the fuel tank is above the carburetor.
Was it a bad solenoid that was causing it to backfire? What is the purpose of the solenoid? My buddy's mower does this.
Yes, the solenoid is supposed to block the flow of gasoline in the carburetor when you turn the ignition off.
Here in this video i show my broken solenoid ruclips.net/video/zUWEN2XCUro/видео.html
If you shut the engine down at full throttle it won't backfire. The solenoid blocks the main jet. If you shut down at low speeds the solenoid doesn't block the idle passage so it can still pull fuel and backfire.
Where can I buy a new solenoid kit and be sure I get all the parts (including heat shield)? I have a Craftsman riding mower with a CV490 Kohler engine.
I got mine here amzn.com/B00CSBQVL6
I have a question on the throttle linkage set up I put a new carb on new solenoid on and and started it up and it acts like it wants to shut off everything is back in place idk if the throttle cable is stretched or what
Well, when you replace the carb, you need to set the idle speed first, then adjust your throttle cable. When you pull the throttle, does the carb go full throttle?
mygiguser no I set it on choke start the lawn mower and it starts up but when I lower the throttle speed it acts like it wants to bog out I pull the hood up and there’s a cable moving by itself and when I hold that cable in place it runs just fine that’s the cable with the spring on it is the one that’s moving
What were your symptoms?
backfire, difficult to start, ...
I’m not a mechanic, so my question is, what do I do when gas gets int my oil? Pulled my dip stick out and it smells like gas. And it’s been blowing out white smoke.
Do not run the engine!!! You need to do the solenoid repair first, then do an oil change and filter change. After that run the engine and see if it got damaged. How was the oil level? Was it far above full?
mygiguser oil level is ok. It just smelled like gas.
Don't run the engine! Drain and replace the oil and filter and the needle and seat in the carb as well as the solenoid or you'll blow that motors guts all over yourself.
6 years ago my Kohler 20 hp would not start. It had sat for 2 years because of my health, anyway my neighbor came and took it to his shop and found that the solenoid plunger was not moving up and down like it should...saw a RUclips video that showed to cut off the solenoid plunger at its lowest point, replacing it in the carburetor but putting a simple on/off fuel switch between the tank and carburetor. Problem solved but you have to manually turn fuel on and off and I am able to allow fuel to run out before putting it up for the winter.
This is not for everyone to do but it was very easy and cost about 6 dollars for the fuel switch and line. I just know that you must cut the plunger off at it's lowest point.
Why did you replace the solenoid , I've never seen anybody not be able to bring one back to perfect working order with carb cleaner and a little brush.
It was stuck, the plastic inside was deformed by the heat from the exhaust. See my video about that particular solenoid: ruclips.net/video/zUWEN2XCUro/видео.html
How do you test the solenoid?
Crunch Munch take it out, connect power and ground 12V and see if the tip retracts quickly.
Crunch Munch ruclips.net/video/zUWEN2XCUro/видео.html
@@mygiguser I will try that, I have to find a thin 1/2" open end wrench, mine is too thick. Thanks. I just seen a video where a guy cut that rod off with a dremel tool and now it does not shut off........fixed, kind of. I am looking to see what the replacement cost is before I do something like that. I got some bad fuel in the tank last fall and now here I am. I have a new filter and fuel, but it is not making it to the carb. I will try your method next, thanks.
Does it matter which way you plug the wire leads into the solenoid? Or can the red wire go on either post of the solenoid plug-in slot?
I think it matters, but i am not sure. The red wire is the power wire, and the black one is the ground wire, if there is a connection between the solenoid housing and the ground wire (i don't know, if there is one), then you will create a short, if you connect the black wire to the red one coming from the ignition switch. My recommendation: don't connect the red wire with the black wire!
Right, i know where to attach the wires to the mower, red to ignition and black is ground. I meant, when you plug those wires to the solenoid, the white plug of the wires can plug into the black slot on the solenoid either way. So if say, I'm looking at the solenoid in my hand with the black plug (with the two prongs) facing me, would the ground go to the left prong or right prong on solenoid? I hope I'm describing that right. Thanks for reply.
Witch wire goes to each side on the solenoid plug in? Red on left or right of the prong plug?
Did you find what wire goes to each side?
The plug fits only in one direction? When you look at the connectors, the connector housing pointing towards you, then black is left and the red is right on the one i used.
What was it doing to warrant the solenoid change? I have one that surges at the moment
Jason Anderson backfiring, hard to start
Jason Anderson try run SEAFOAM thur a couple tanks my cub cadet was surging and after one tank it cleared up and has been running fine until the fuel solenoid went bad. Mine started backfiring when I cut it off sign of solenoid was going bad . Read can of SEAFOAM it will state how much to use per gallon of gas . And use only ethanol free gas regular pump gas not good for small engines.
Would bad solenoid also cause gas to flood out carb?
desotopete yes
Great video!
HI, my engine fires, doesn't run at full rpm's, PTO cranks engine almost dies, going uphill engine almost dies, I can smell gas but no smoke visible, fuel lines and pump/filter are good as well as carburetor. Any ideas?
Austin McFarlane so many things come to mind. Adjusting the valves, measure compression, replace/adjust ignition coil, fuel filter could be clogged. I have videos on some of those issues. The valve adjustment as well as the ignition coil seems to be popular.
Austin McFarlane ignition coil here ruclips.net/video/bZ1SiQuKVBk/видео.html
FUEL PUMP DIAPHRAM ON KOHLERS engine with a mechanical pump.
Need some help. I knew changing the carburetor was too easy to be true. I had a fuel leak and solenoid wire broke. Changed with new carburetor and solenoid. Ran for awhile and started acting like it wanted to die. Figured I had to adjust those speed and fuel screws. Took everything off and the solenoid wires had been melting. Didn’t think I needed a second heat shield since I didn’t need before. Ordered and new wires and gaskets. Tried again. Engine started to turn over then nothing. I get nothing now. No lights. No click. Even switched the red and black wires thinking it was backwards.
there should be a fuse for the power of the solenoid, the battery should have power, and the ignition switch could be burnt too.
mygiguser well I’m gonna have to turn in to the professionals. Battery is new but I did check. Don’t know where the solenoid fuse is. I checked the 20amp fuse under the battery. Blows when I put a new one and turn the key. The shop couldn’t just test the ignition switch I brought in today. I think the connector that the red solenoid wire attaches to is damaged by heat I was getting. ?? The heat shield doesn’t fit as perfect as yours did but I don’t think that would matter. This girl is defeated. Thanks for a great video and answering so quickly.
Their is supposed to be a pre filter with regular filter.
yes, you can use that, if you live in a dusty environment, i don't.
I have a Koehler 19 HP and it's sputtering. Maybe this will help. THANKS!!
Ricky Pisano bought a Troy bilt 19hp bronco last year and I’ve already had to replace the carb. The solenoid was shot.
Very Good!
cut a beer can and strap it to the bowl for a heatsheild. Works the same.
bad banano once the solenoid is burnt, it’s too late, but your beer can trick is most likely to work!
Doesn't fix the solenoid
Maybe it's included in the solenoid kit. Apparently, these solenoids overheat and fail.
Do you have the link where you buy it from?
There is a Amazon link in the unboxing video
@@mygiguser what about on EBay and do you buy the parts separate?
I've got a 16 cub cadet won't run unless the starter is engaged help me out
Jerel Willey hard to say, could be the ignition switch.
mygiguser I'm jumping it from the starter
Also possible a blown fuse.
mygiguser I thank you for your help appreciate it
Take solenoidoff with a 1/2 inch thin wrench
Replaced solenoid. New fuel filter , air filter. No start. Cranks no start. You have any float issues needle seat etc . That's my next step
Psycho Hick did it run before you replaced the solenoid?
@@mygiguser always ran. I just found the real culprit on my Kohler 12.5 hp. The block was filling with gas. What the problem was caused by is the....... FUEL PUMP DIPHRAM . It has a split in it and when the needle would stop the fuel from entering the float bowl it overcame that resistance and would pump the crankcase full of fuel to the point it would stop running. Unless you smelled the dipstick and got out a microscope you can't see gas on a dipstick very easily. Most Briggs have an external fuel pump that isn't mechanical, like the one Kohler uses. It's operated by a cam lobe similar to GMs older 350 , 283 ,327 etc. Anyway my problem is solved. Thanks
just to fast wanted to know about the ground wires didn't show
what do you mean by didn't show? @7:44 you can set the RUclips to slow, or just pause the video!? All the ground wires are connected to the same bolt!
@@mygiguser ive got a kohler courage 19 twin cam and the fuel solenoid is different not the cable doesn't come out of the solenoid it snaps in im wondering what im to do with the ground cable that is attached to the carburetor ? plus i paid 69$ for it and they looked up the wrong part so discussed you would think a lawn mower shop would be right, i looked at the part number I had and it isn't a match now it will be after the 4th before i get to mow
@@mygiguser I didn't get a new longer stud?
why did u do all that to change the solenoid u did put a new solenoid on it ,
I"m with you, I got too deep into the whole process myself when all I needed to do is change the solenoid, which conveniently hangs off the bottom and can be removed without getting into the carb/gaskets and such (which at some point probably should be replaced)
Great if you can find a replacement solenoid!!!
+Tim D what do you mean? You can oder the kit online?
The solenoid for the HUAYI carburetor is not available. I've looked all over the internet. Lots of websites show the solenoid but no one has it available.
Tim D you could try a new carburetor, it comes with solenoid, but i don’t know if that fits. And the heat shield is not in the carb kit either. But that would be better than nothing.
You can bypass that solenoid just take the solenoid out grind it down on a grinder level with the threaded part of it put yourself a fuel shut off valve in between the carburetor and the filter problem solved you don't need to buy a solenoid okay you don't even need that thing it's junk they last about 2 years and they go out on you again
@@matthewkyle3793 but you need a grinder.
Hello. I'm wondering if you can recommend a place to buy a Backfire solenoid for kohler courage 23 as our local tractor dealer said they no longer make the one that we need and I must buy the entire carburetor for $500 Help! Thank you
Mine is sv720s. Thank you for your help
Maybe I'm not searching correctly on Amazon but I can't seem to find a carburetor for this model number
SV720S
Thanks for your help, I call partstree and they said the same thing that Kohler said, don't sell the solenoid anymore and the carb would have to be purchased for $300 - YUCK!
My land moher it keeps accelerating, shoud I need to change solenoid as well?
ing jr garcia silva no, i don’t think that’s the problem.
Usually the Governor if your RPM's are out of control.
I think the service guys forgot to put the heat deflector back on, thats maybe why it 's backfiring 😂
ToxRozzx the first models did not have the heat shield.
mygiguser ty, u know too much 😂😂😂😑
mygiguser that is maybe also why it looks a bit different
Speak boy, speak!
I put a new carb on mine, then the damn plastic governor shredded lol. So take the engine apart to replace a $10 plastic governor. SMDH 🤷🏻♂️
First time working on one of these for a friend. Can't say I like these engines. The whole bucket engine idea is kinda weird. The small engine shop in bum fucked egypt ran a wire from the solenoid to the ignition. That wire burned up to nothing. Thankfully the wire harness survived. Every time I connected the battery the 20A fuse popped. Sitting there scratching my head. Finally popped the flywheel off and sure enough, magnets on the flywheel were pulverized shorting out the stator.
Why is this video titled "How to fix the Kohler Solenoid Problem the Right Way" when it shows a carberator repair? Or am I missing something?
Charles Smith the solenoid was replaced, and a heat shield was added. For that you need to remove the carb. The carburetor was not repaired.
@@mygiguser So this is how to add a heat shield. Replacing a solenoid can be done with the carb. in place, just unscrew the old and screw in the new. Or is the heat shield to protect the solenoid?
@@mygiguser The video is still titled "How to fix the Kohler Solenoid Problem the Right Way" It doesn't say squat about a carberator. Your response is "silly". (Just being politically correct)
Dude, you could replace the solenoid with carb still on I guess. But for the repair to be effectual, he's takin the carb off and putting the heat shield on. Changing some gaskets and hardware too. He's not taking the carb apart to repair it. Do you know what a carb repair looks like? If you did, I don't think you'd be nitpicking in such a "silly" way. Cuz carb repairs take apart the carb and clean each part using elec cleaners or other solutions.
And ya MyTech, the heatshield is to protect the solenoid from overheating and failing. Carb itself does not need any temp protection.
So, is this guy saying I shouldn’t have taken a 24 pound sledge hammer and beaten the hell out my tractor and then started it on fire because it wouldn’t start?
that's exactly what i was saying. for $30 you could be up and mowing again...
wow a kohler courage still running,worst engine kohler or maybe anyone ever built
Cannot agree more. You have to be on guard at all time. Once the gasoline is in the oil, the engine is history...
Learn English your comment doesn't even make fucking sense.
There still going to be a problem the solenoid is going to go bad again. they are trash . the best way to fix this problem is by pass it, an put a a shut of valve in the gas line to turn the gas off your self .. There nothing but a anti backfire . if you shut you fuel off. an then run the mower till it uses all the gas out of the carb you wont have the back fire prob . easy fix . an save you many down the road .. some of these solenoids can cost you upwards to 90$
So what’s the proper I just seen r&r what the hell did you do
Al TheOne i fixed it how Husqvarna/Kohler wants you to fix it. With the upgrade kit.
Yikes, I think I’ll just wrap the solenoid with some 3M 433 tape.
nesito un carburador
¿Por qué necesita un carburador?