My HDR 50 (11 Joule version) actually produces about 17 Joules (507 FPS with 22 grain nylon rounds). It will penetrate drywall and steel cans, and with solid steel rounds it blows through coconuts ! I keep it as a less lethal defense on my sailboat.
I had both, and will stand by the HDP50 every time. It never gets any of the credit it deserves. Other than the revolver being able to shoot shaped projectiles, i don't see what all the hype is about. The balance is terrible at best, and with the hard, "snagging" trigger pull, good luck with a follow up shot within any reasonable amount of time. It has a rail for mounting an optical. Good, bc you're going to need one. Molded flat black front n back sights. Can't hold a bead on a target on a sunny day. The HDP50 has neon fiber optic "night sights" front n back n a smooth trigger pull. Balance is good n feels natural in hand. Before and after the equal version of max power kit was installed on each, HDP50 dominated testing, especially timed sets with moving targets. Revolver never redeemed itself n didn't want to waste another dollar on it. Gave it away. With a little self tuning n tinkering, at 20 ft the HDP50 will put a soft foam ball in sheetrock. 8.5 gram magnesium rounds clean through a full WD-40 can, and a nylon resin round will clean the teeth out of a crackhead's grill w two lightening quick pops. HDP50 all the way
Thanks, ive really struggeled with my dissision. I wanted the HDP but every review said i should by the HDR. I will buy the 11J verson and would really like to try some different projectiles. Do u know any for the HDP? Or do i have to make some my self?
HDP will only fire a round .50 projectile, but there's plenty out there with extra weight added! The guys at SSR make the best rounds in our experience
Agree I had both... much prefer the HDP. Neater form factor. Better sights, more efficient and looks closer to the real deal. The downside is reloading but you can easily just use a speed loader tube and drop the rounds in. Not much slower than a HDR tbh maybe even faster.
HDR50 is better in a critical way. HDR50 is a powerful air gun which can shoot any type of projectile, including cheap home made ammo and lead bullets. What's more, it's large lower rails and slots allow to easily mount long barrel extension. HDR50 can be modified to be powerful lethal air gun. So can HDP50. But it's significantly easier with HDR50 and also shoot bullets instead of being limited to balls. So for ultimate home defense, HDR50 is the better choice.
Thanks Strathpeffer Junction. Do you think the after market alumunium cartridges which are made to a tighter tolerance would make any great differance?
@@ModernIntel It guess it's possible, but it's a feature of almost all real steel revolver designs too (bar the negant). Some air pistols do have a barrel part that pulls in to seal against the cylinder, but that's part of the revolver design. You might be able to reduce the gap a little with a tighter tolerance part, but there's still going to be air lost. I've never tried one of the aftermarket one, maybe others have who can confirm?
@@petersmith6974 The aluminium cartridge stops the gas leakage and adds between 0.5 and 1j by doing so, a conversion kit can add another 10j and up depending which version you get and the barrel tuning kit adds quite a bit as well. Some conversions can take the HDR above 30j
I own the hdr68, hdr50, hds68, hdx68. Own one of Umarex bb handgun, snr357, spyder viictor, tippman tmc elite. Just bought the new mercury rise torpedo revolver and the hdr50 launcher and pepper spray cartridge. To bad most of the cool ammo is sold overseas. Cost a fortune to get it shipped to the USA. My favorite is my 16joules hds68. Arrows is my favorite to shoot out of it.
Yes I can reload HDR50 in two seconds by swapping magazine, while keeping gun pointed at target. One second if I don't engage the magazine bolt (it's possible to shoot without center bolt engaged). but I doubt that's possible with HDP
I had the hdr it started leaking after a month. When I opened it springs jumped out everywhere and impossible to assemble. I tried a lot.. now I hope the hde will be better. Look at Rune rebel he removes one little badge and goes from 11j to 25 in a minute. He shoots real steel balls not the coated ones.
I'm an American living down under in South Africa, so I feel your pain....lol. Wish we had the 2nd amendment here, but at least they have the HDR with 11 Joules and not the 7 Joule U.K. version. Love your videos..... Cheers!
Hi.. I am very much interested in a home defence revolver or pistol. I just can decide on the HD burner 68 cal or the hdr 50 cal.. Iv been trying to compare these to and was hoping to find the comparisons. Could you assist with the knowledge you have.
HD Byrna is expensive and doesn't seem to have much upgrade capability. HDR50 can be modded easily, shoot any kind of projectile including home made rounds and can be upgraded in power up to lethal levels.
12.7mm delrin balls work great in the HDP... they fly much faster and hit a lot harder than in the HDR. The HDR loses too much gas because of its revolver design.
@@EvanXDev They dont hit harder though. Measure the FPS, they are slower. Sure you could make some pointy bullets but they still have less energy. Tbh not even the HDP is powerful enough for a proper deterrent. You want the FSC or the T8.1
@@tomszabo7350 Done all that. I found that steel balls are too heavy. The best ones seem to be the 2.4gram rubber balls with steel powder. They cycle nice and put a very deep dent in my steel pan.
@@EvanXDev Yes totally agree. I can upgrade HDR50 to same power as 22LR pistol. I would prefer to shoot lead bullets at that power instead of rubber balls, since it's lethal weapon at that point. I guess it's possible to upgrade HDP50 to same power levels but you would have to shoot lead balls instead.
Umarex came out with 68 caliber version of HDR50, called HDR68. It's quite large, maybe too large for many people. Hopefully there will be lots of reviews for HDR68 soon.
Revolver can be unloaded without firing. Also I suppose conical rounds could be fitted if desired. I wonder if a barrel sleeve could be fitted for smaller diameter but higher velocity.
Yes that's the advantage of revolver magazine. Reducing caliber will not give you higher velocity, as air gun is propelled not by gun powder, but fixed air pressure. But adding barrel extension will increase velocity and to impressive levels.
I have both in 7j and 11j , the hdr revolver is ok for paintball in both powers but the hdp in 11joules seems to hit-really hard and I wouldn’t recommend for paintball Someone would get hurt bad with this power
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My HDR 50 (11 Joule version) actually produces about 17 Joules (507 FPS with 22 grain nylon rounds). It will penetrate drywall and steel cans, and with solid steel rounds it blows through coconuts ! I keep it as a less lethal defense on my sailboat.
Thats over the 11joule its rated for, maybe faulty you should return it before it blows up in your face
I had both, and will stand by the HDP50 every time. It never gets any of the credit it deserves. Other than the revolver being able to shoot shaped projectiles, i don't see what all the hype is about. The balance is terrible at best, and with the hard, "snagging" trigger pull, good luck with a follow up shot within any reasonable amount of time. It has a rail for mounting an optical. Good, bc you're going to need one. Molded flat black front n back sights. Can't hold a bead on a target on a sunny day. The HDP50 has neon fiber optic "night sights" front n back n a smooth trigger pull. Balance is good n feels natural in hand. Before and after the equal version of max power kit was installed on each, HDP50 dominated testing, especially timed sets with moving targets. Revolver never redeemed itself n didn't want to waste another dollar on it. Gave it away. With a little self tuning n tinkering, at 20 ft the HDP50 will put a soft foam ball in sheetrock. 8.5 gram magnesium rounds clean through a full WD-40 can, and a nylon resin round will clean the teeth out of a crackhead's grill w two lightening quick pops. HDP50 all the way
Thanks, ive really struggeled with my dissision. I wanted the HDP but every review said i should by the HDR. I will buy the 11J verson and would really like to try some different projectiles. Do u know any for the HDP? Or do i have to make some my self?
HDP will only fire a round .50 projectile, but there's plenty out there with extra weight added! The guys at SSR make the best rounds in our experience
Agree I had both... much prefer the HDP. Neater form factor. Better sights, more efficient and looks closer to the real deal. The downside is reloading but you can easily just use a speed loader tube and drop the rounds in. Not much slower than a HDR tbh maybe even faster.
@@tomszabo7350 yes it is, did we say it was .43 in the video
HDR50 is better in a critical way. HDR50 is a powerful air gun which can shoot any type of projectile, including cheap home made ammo and lead bullets. What's more, it's large lower rails and slots allow to easily mount long barrel extension. HDR50 can be modified to be powerful lethal air gun. So can HDP50. But it's significantly easier with HDR50 and also shoot bullets instead of being limited to balls. So for ultimate home defense, HDR50 is the better choice.
The power difference is understandable, because the small gap between the barrel and cylinder in the HDR50 vents CO2.
Thanks Strathpeffer Junction. Do you think the after market alumunium cartridges which are made to a tighter tolerance would make any great differance?
@@ModernIntel It guess it's possible, but it's a feature of almost all real steel revolver designs too (bar the negant). Some air pistols do have a barrel part that pulls in to seal against the cylinder, but that's part of the revolver design. You might be able to reduce the gap a little with a tighter tolerance part, but there's still going to be air lost. I've never tried one of the aftermarket one, maybe others have who can confirm?
@@ModernIntel I’ve heard that replacing the aluminium barrel with a steel barrel (not extended) and the aluminium cartridge makes a difference.
@@petersmith6974 The aluminium cartridge stops the gas leakage and adds between 0.5 and 1j by doing so, a conversion kit can add another 10j and up depending which version you get and the barrel tuning kit adds quite a bit as well. Some conversions can take the HDR above 30j
@@ModernIntel The aftermarket supposedly stops the leakage as it is wider and adds 0.5 to 1j
I own the hdr68, hdr50, hds68, hdx68. Own one of Umarex bb handgun, snr357, spyder viictor, tippman tmc elite. Just bought the new mercury rise torpedo revolver and the hdr50 launcher and pepper spray cartridge. To bad most of the cool ammo is sold overseas. Cost a fortune to get it shipped to the USA. My favorite is my 16joules hds68. Arrows is my favorite to shoot out of it.
For the pistol I think there could be an extra mag adapter to autoload in the hole (spring loaded), just a thought.
Yes I can reload HDR50 in two seconds by swapping magazine, while keeping gun pointed at target. One second if I don't engage the magazine bolt (it's possible to shoot without center bolt engaged). but I doubt that's possible with HDP
I have them both and the hdp has a way smoother trigger pull than the hdr and I find myself hitting smaller groups with it because of that.
Agree, HDP feels smoother
groups don’t matter one bit when it comes to these, the reliability and ability to reload in my opinion makes the revolver better
I had the hdr it started leaking after a month. When I opened it springs jumped out everywhere and impossible to assemble. I tried a lot.. now I hope the hde will be better. Look at Rune rebel he removes one little badge and goes from 11j to 25 in a minute. He shoots real steel balls not the coated ones.
I love my pistol. Im getting the revolver this upcoming week. 😎
Brilliant, how are you getting on with it?
@@ModernIntel i love it. I cary when im at home. There are alot of strays that come in my property and chase my small dog. Well not anymore lol
Dont buy the hdr revolver it leaks!
Great video, whats the best nastiest pepper rounds for hdp50, tnx!
I'm an American living down under in South Africa, so I feel your pain....lol. Wish we had the 2nd amendment here, but at least they have the HDR with 11 Joules and not the 7 Joule U.K. version. Love your videos..... Cheers!
Thanks Thommy
Looks nice and like the sight. Don't like the fact it doesn't have magazine support, thus, loading is much slower.
Fair enough
There’s a dude on RUclips he sells a speed loader for $25
Good vid help make my mine up going for the HDR revolver like the shot gun to expensive bat the moment like to see a semi auto shotgun
Hi.. I am very much interested in a home defence revolver or pistol. I just can decide on the HD burner 68 cal or the hdr 50 cal.. Iv been trying to compare these to and was hoping to find the comparisons. Could you assist with the knowledge you have.
HD Byrna is expensive and doesn't seem to have much upgrade capability. HDR50 can be modded easily, shoot any kind of projectile including home made rounds and can be upgraded in power up to lethal levels.
@@springer-qb4dv I have a 7.5 J HDR 50 gun.I bought a Slugmaker, how do you think I can make the most effective bullet?
I'd be interested to know if there's a notable difference in velocity between normal paintballs and first strike rounds with the HDR
probably not a lot between .50 cal as the weight differences are pretty minimal, its a lot more noticeable with .68 cal
I like your video as I was wondering which one would pack a harder punch n moreso it's cheaper. Thanks
HDP packs a harder punch
12.7mm delrin balls work great in the HDP... they fly much faster and hit a lot harder than in the HDR. The HDR loses too much gas because of its revolver design.
HDR 50 has much more ammo choices which hit harder
@@EvanXDev They dont hit harder though. Measure the FPS, they are slower. Sure you could make some pointy bullets but they still have less energy. Tbh not even the HDP is powerful enough for a proper deterrent. You want the FSC or the T8.1
@@tomszabo7350 Done all that. I found that steel balls are too heavy. The best ones seem to be the 2.4gram rubber balls with steel powder. They cycle nice and put a very deep dent in my steel pan.
@@EvanXDev Yes totally agree. I can upgrade HDR50 to same power as 22LR pistol. I would prefer to shoot lead bullets at that power instead of rubber balls, since it's lethal weapon at that point. I guess it's possible to upgrade HDP50 to same power levels but you would have to shoot lead balls instead.
How loud is the revolver?
I have one, and I don't want to get the cops called on me when I test it in the yard
its loud...
Great vid sold. Thumbs up
Thanks 👍
Cómo se reconoce el revólver H4E HDR 50 de 7,5 J y el de 11 J. Cuál es la diferencia a simple vista?
7 J versions are normally F stamped
When are you going to make a .68 cal pistol
Umarex came out with 68 caliber version of HDR50, called HDR68. It's quite large, maybe too large for many people. Hopefully there will be lots of reviews for HDR68 soon.
@@springer-qb4dv comes in 16 joule will certainly pack a punch thou
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HDR50 all day not so fussy with ammo
Chris we agree.
They the hd50 with a power upgrade kit
The Companies needed better names for their products like: Dragon M50 or RkO 50. While maybe not the last one. But The names are a bit confusing. 😮
Can either one shoot pepper balls?
you would have to check whether its legal to fire them where your based, but yes they both can
@@ModernIntel thx
Revolver can be unloaded without firing.
Also I suppose conical rounds could be fitted if desired.
I wonder if a barrel sleeve could be fitted for smaller diameter but higher velocity.
Yes that's the advantage of revolver magazine. Reducing caliber will not give you higher velocity, as air gun is propelled not by gun powder, but fixed air pressure. But adding barrel extension will increase velocity and to impressive levels.
I have both in
7j and 11j , the hdr revolver is ok for paintball in both powers but the hdp in 11joules seems to hit-really hard and I wouldn’t recommend for paintball
Someone would get hurt bad with this power
We agree
"Someone would get hurt bad with this power" ... not a problem if that "someone" was not in your home with permission ...
Would the 7.5 j do much? Can you load steel balls in the hdp?
@@jjjos I use aluminum balls. Massive damage
I counted six in the cylinder!
You counted right!
Yea mine carry 6
They should make a trimmed 7 round cylinder like the Punisher's arsenal mods.
The pistol easily jams
not in our experience
The hdr have 6 rounds the hdp just 5.
You sayit the oposite.
Eu não entendo nada oque esse cara fala
I dont understand what your typing
This takes 5 rounds. points at 6 round magazine
The correction is in the video. Writes a pointless comment anyway
@@ModernIntel didn't see the correction. Switched off immediately at the mistake.