Hey frank, as an engineer at Mercedes-Benz I can tell you that with current technology, we can’t have so much glass in the interior for trim pieces and entire dashboards, due to safety hazards. In the event of the crash, the glass will act as a projectile, that could hit the passengers in the chest, head, eyes etc. it’s feasible, but not with current costs and technology.
As Frank said multiple times, the designers design the future, not the current tech because this is where we might be possibly going, not where we already are. However I'm totally with you on the safety concerns.
I always love how Frank tries to push technology to its limits; it gives me so many ideas on my own passion projects. I also like the amount of wood in the car almost as if no matter how far we go we are still intertwined with nature.
I sometimes can't believe how lucky we are to just have access to someone like Frank, with all his experience and expertise, posting stuff like this--and all for free. Accessible to all. I love it
Tactile feedback is important to me, although, sound effects can be an effective feedback mechanism for capacitive touch switches. With glass cockpits, an important parameter is always viewing angle. The user should be able to see and use the display, even if they are not positioned directly in front it the display. Finally brightness, I have an aftermarket (EONON) unit in my car which is useless in almost all daylight. Really enjoyed this video, keep pushing the limits!
I feel that tactile feedback is very important too, but having used the trackpads of a macbook and others (where you don't physically press anything, but instead have a feedback via vibration motor), it feels just like the real thing. So I think it might be possible without physical buttons.
Spaces that bring people together is what pushes my button. In the context of cars, the best utilization of space while having sufficient tech to satisfy actual an future needs.
In regards to your ending question, I an a firm believer that there is a place for both the traditional and the tech-focused styles. Car interior design is getting closer and closer to home interior design, and we see that in home interiors there is a fine appreciation for both the classic elegance, but also the modern clean and technological approach. Having both options available offers a richness and diversity that allows you to appreciate exactly what suits you. In my mind the different approaches to interior design should not be fighting, but rather seen as a support to each other, a way to balance each other out. Classic seems even more sophisticated when it's put up next to a tech screen utopia, and vice versa. However we approach interior design, I do believe that a common aspect that we should do our best to maintain, is the appreciation for the materials themselves and the volumes, surfacing, reflections, etc that we can adjust and polish to add that sense of craftsmanship. Now, whether craftsmanship means a hardened experienced craftsman putting his soul into the work, or if its the ultimate precision machining done by a host of robots to achieve pinnacle surface treatments and allignments, both are equally valuable. As long as we don't lose our sense of appreciation for finer work and attention to details.
Agree. I also think the future of car design will offer spaces that engage the driver or detach the occupants from the driving experience to introduce them in a form of augmented reality and/or Virtual reality.
I understand this is for the future with level 5 autonomy but right now I'm hating the interiors that are acting as if we already have level 5. E.G the new VW golf interior. We need physical controls while we're driving, when its level 5 autonomous with no/minimal issues, then you can get rid of them. I blame Tesla for ruining car interiors right now and choosing form over function.
I do like the aesthetics of your design, Frank. You've led me on the path of seeing this as a viable future of auto interior styling, and even functionality. Mind you, I'm not interested in riding around in a computer cubicle, no matter how fantastically styled. I'd rather enjoy the journey and a less- intrusive data feed, though I know I'm an outlier in that.
What I like about it is the that "screens" are fully integrated / moulded into the interior shape of the car. This is definitely the future, and once this seamless integration of technology becomes a reality, the cars of today with big sticky-outy screens planted on the dash are going to look laughably archaic.
In the future display technology will move beyond glassy screens....like holograms & also tactile surface projections that BMW showcased with the Vision Next 100 concept.
As former BMW Designworks director of innovation and market development, my job was to work with designers and engineers to find or create the technologies to solve drivers problems or offer unique to BMW enhancements to the Ultimate Driving Experience. Sometimes it was working with ex-Apple Ux designers to create the iDrive or Nike fabrications to offer cooler, more cushioned seating. i would suggest 2 processes for designers: watch carefully what drivers and passengers do and discuss their feelings; then imagine what would make their experience more memorable and rewarding (they can’t tell you what they’ve never experienced). That creation that exceeds expectations is the most fun and often leads to the most success
Call me luddite but this interior looks like nightmare to me. In fact I like the aesthetics, but the amount of screens is a major turnoff. No tactile feeling like real buttons and switches, screens will get dead pixels over time and the computers running those screens will slow down and stop working eventually and all that glass is hellishly hard to keep clean and tidy when every fingerprint is visible. And how is this all gonna work during a real, cold winter like here in Finland? And some fake-ass Milky way or norhern lights will never beat the real experience, or even the real sunroof which you can actually open and feel the wind in your hair. Screens may feel futuristic and cool now, but I'm quite sure the novelty will wear off quite soon, and rather sooner than later we all will be fed up with everything working via screens. In that point the old fashioned gauges will be an exclusive option available only in the most luxurious vehicles. If you don't believe me, just check what has happened in the watch market last 40-50 years.
Hi Frank, I really appreciate the authentic process and the intentional energy that you bring to your videos! Thank you for communicating a refined inspiration for nature in your work. I look forward to seeing you in the future, too 😌
I like the idea of the roof being customizable but i honestly don't need so many screens in the car. Seems more like a thing for business people that are forced to be in cars for long times and don't want to use a laptop
Please do an analysis of the Gordon Murray T.50/T.50s. As the designer of another presumed successor to the McLaren F1, I'm interested to see the similarities and differences between the philosophies behind both designs.
The future must always be what's exciting. History is where we come from but the future is what matters most... Can't wait (and work on) to see what's next!
Analog is the way to go in interior car design. It ages better, allows for better differenciation between brands and can be used without taking one's eyes off the road.
I completely agree with the second half of your comment, but you're forgetting that this is made for autonomous cars where taking your eyes off the road is completely normal and you might even want to watch a movie on the highway.
I personally loath the loss of physical buttons. Touch displays are beautiful and 'cool', but they are also bright, potentially distracting, and require you to babysit your interactions when interfacing. There's an important moment when you're feeling for a physical button where you are able to locate it on memory before it's engaged. Screens and capacitive touch sensors force you to focus your attention and be exact with your input. Until we have reliable and fully autonomous vehicles, ones that allow for you to safely focus on other things besides driving, I think this tech is a little too early. Physical controls are safer on multiple levels for that reason. I think there's a lot more design opportunity too when you can physicalize your controls. I miss playing with my family's old audio equipment and feeling how good switches, dials, and buttons can be. It's satisfying to feel the physical clicks of a good switch and the right amount of resistance when turning a weighty dial. To me the lathed and milled metal controls often looked more beautiful and luxurious. With all that said, I think AR displays can't come soon enough. Receiving information from the windscreen allows you to keep your eyes on the road which I think is as valuable or more than 360 camera safety features or automatic breaking, at least while we have cars driven by people. I really think with the advent of fully electric vehicles we'll see more focus being paid to the interior experience. Can't wait to see what an S-Class is like in the next 5 to 10 years.
The part with zooming window is the best because it acknowledge the common goal or experience that passengers are having. I don't think that being bombarded with information from every side will be a high mark for a living in the future. I feel like it's a modern day man speaking, because it's now when it could be considered a luxury to some extent.
Im very conflicted about these types of interiors. I really like the versetility and look of these but when you are actually driving they only distract and feel pretty bland. Mechanical buttons still have more emotion and activate more senses than any touchscreen could ever do. You experience trough more than your eyes. Maby in the future some kind of haptic feedback will appear. That would be pretty cool. Seats that recline at speed or some chair vibration in directions of other cars. Autonomous driving will be an blessing for some people but im not sure i want to spend another part of my day looking at a screen.
Clicky buttons and switches are pretty important, our brains easily associates the physical feedback with something turning on/off somewhere and that's completely absent in touch and specially hovering no-touch buttons. I'd say it depends on the person, some may need more of that feedback than others, but most importantly it depends on the gadget or system and every function of it. If the design as a whole "asks" for it then it's ok, but going for fully physical or fully touch designs just for the sake of keeping & sticking to one harmonious style is kinda simple-minded; a combination of both, with clicky buttons for main & important functions and touch for optional & leisure related features, is completely viable.
A physical button can also be operated without looking at it, I live in 2 season country. One rain and wind season, and one cold, snowy and windy season. I need to be able to adjust fans and heat while driving, not somewhere in the menu system on a touch screen.
Frank what are your thoughts on the DaytonaSP3. Personally I like all the angles when viewed independently however, when looking at the whole car it just looks messy. Am I missing something?
What is it with the Tesla style giant ipad in the dashboard? the only two real improvements that have come in 20 years of car info is the mph indicator and sat nav but only when I’m using sat nav. Everything else is a distraction… music and phone can be voice activated or controlled with a simple screen. Make cars a joy to drive first and that’s not reminding me I spend all day at work in front of a screen….
Hi Frank, I really enjoy your videos! I've been seeing alot of Toyota C-HR's around recently, a boring hybrid crossover but with unique lines I feel, and I wonder what you could come up with transcribing it into more of a Supercar design? Also I drive an Alfa Brera and I'm glad we share a love for it. 👍
Frank: I think.... why not... Corning engineers: * intensifies sweat * That aside thanka you for all these videos, they really offer a lot of insight into the thought behind design processes.
At first, I was pretty sure I wasn't going to like it for one reason or another. But the more Frank drew and talked about the various possibilities the more I was pulled in. By the end of it I found myself thinking, "I want that". Ultimately I think it depends on the driving experience you are looking for that particular day or moment but this definitely looks like it would result in a really great riding experience. Love watching Frank do his magic.
Frank, Please cover your thoughts on the revival of Japanese sports cars comeback. The Supra/Z4, GR86/BRZ, the 400Z, and the Civic/Integra. Do you think some of these updates miss the mark in the sense of historic styling? Talk us through the behind the scenes when beginning back an old nameplate.
I know you've mentioned in past why you use a pen. But it'd be great to hear about the materials, colour pens etc and other tools you use in design. Something like an "essentials" tools/materials would be fantastic
Buenas tardes Curro. Supongo que tanto cristalito y tanta pantallita será la tendencia en el diseño de interiores, pero para mi (que ya tengo mis años), donde se ponga el cuero, el aluminio, la madera y los botoncitos físicos, que se quite "tó lo demá", pues en mi opinión refleja interiores muy fríos. Respecto de las pantallitas, a mi me da que es puro "decontenting". Como siempre, buen video. Por cierto, me alegra saber que estás "hasta las orejas" de trabajo. Un abrazo desde Cádiz.
Buenas tardes Curro. Supongo que tanto cristalito y tanta pantallita será la tendencia en el diseño de interiores, pero para mi (que ya tengo mis años), donde se ponga el cuero, el aluminio, la madera y los botoncitos físicos, que se quite "tó lo demá", pues en mi opinión refleja interiores muy fríos. Respecto de las pantallitas, a mi me da que es puro "decontenting". Como siempre, buen video y gracias por tus aportaciones. Por cierto, me alegra saber que estás "hasta las orejas" de trabajo. Un abrazo desde Cádiz.
I'm excited for the future of the car industry, I would be lying if I said I wouldn't miss the feedback, response, and overall connection and feel of a car, but we have to move forward. Classic cars will always be able to give feedback and allow you to create a connection, and true driving experience, but I will for sure miss the real automobile
Personally, I miss good switchgear. I get that cost and design is driving things toward touchscreens, but I think that touchscreens are at best the second-best interface to do just about anything. I have never personally used any software that I feel was best done on a touchscreen (I think it says something that even stylus drawing is done on a pad separate from the screen in a lot of cases). And, if an automaker is going to add a touchscreen with a computer in my dashboard, then I'd like to do some computer-y things with it. For instance, why do I still need an OBD reader if there's already a computer in my dashbaord? There should be an app that tells me about any codes in the car. Why can't I make a spreadsheet to keep track of service appointments, costs, mileages between services, etc. that stays with the car through all owners? I'll just cap off by saying that my favorite thing about my dad's 70 Chevy truck, that is otherwise a completely un-notable classic, is locking and unlocking the doors. Putting the key into the door and feeling the entire door lock mechanism move because I have two fingers on a key is infinitely satisfying to me.
I agree, switchgear should never be completely replaced. One thing I'd like to see is to be able to program what each physical switch\button does. Every driver has a different set of their most oft used controls and it would be cool to be able to have your own most important controls all right at the flip of an actual switch. As for OBD access, that's not going to happen as automakers want to keep internal data obfuscated to the majority of owners in order to funnel as many of them as possible to dealer service. If they were going to more freely share OBD info, it woulda happened at some point in the 3+ decades the system has been in place. But there are plenty of simple solutions for that from a free reading at an auto parts store to a phone app to just driving around with your laptop plugged into the port displaying whatever you'd like. I agree it would be nice to have that laptop functionality built in but it might lose OEMs money so it'll never happen.
@@solidXxXtuna Agreed on why OBD in dash isn't a thing. Cool idea for the customizable switches, especially since you could just put a screen that shows the correct icon on every one when you reassign it.
All I hope is it will be possible to buy a car a decade down the road that still has a few switches or buttons or knobs. That is not a Rolls Royce or Konigsegg. There's this potential 'tactile screen' tech that can raise the surface of the screen to emulate a button as well as a simulated button click when you finger-squish it. I dunno. If simulated beef gets 97% realistic, I'll eat it. But you better believe I'm still going out for a real steak on special occasions.
Most of the issues I have with car interiors today is the high quality of organic materials such as leather and stitching clash with the cheapness of technology parts. Most of the technology looks so darn cheap. Or the enclosing it is housed in. Most of the time it doesn’t blend in well at all. I’ve noticed as well that most of the time designers will tone back on the elegance of the organic materials as not to clash with the technology. Taking away from an overall luxury and elegant feel.
The only issue that i find with this design its the sociofugal nature of the seat splitting panel, in my opinion private vehicles should encourage a "sofa" type of interaction and comfort in the back at least. Otherwise its always cool and at some point necessary to push the boundary s of stablished design, huge fan of the channel, keep it up.
Love the focus on interior design. Also get why screens were a focus here but I think information panels in the car should become more invisible. Audi showed an interior concept where wood panels were also acting as screens. When we look at movies like „Her“ I like the approach of today’s modern technology becoming more like furniture and generally less of a focus … so the future of car design for me would be something of a living room with a minimalist Swedish design sense where the idea of this interior space being a cockpit is completely removed, screens or input panels mostly invisible until you use them…
It still get me every time I see Frank's trusty Bic ball point pen. I always expect some hyper expensive fine point pencils. Id like to here what he thinks about the Rayfield Caliburn from Cyberpunk 2077? About the no window's, all AR thing.
voice control mic adapter onto ur phone should replace infotainment. speaker noise cancelation can help with personalized voice commands. for more complaex tasks, semi auto swiping to scroll through pages of few switches of large size, so u minimize need to be careful with finger especially over bympy road. system will not allow user to do complex tasks while at speed b/c distracted driving unsafe. speakers are optional, most people use a earbud a little away from ear so they can hear honking cars, emergency car sirens etc. purposefulness is timeless, so minimal aesthetics bring focus to parts of common function are great ex. ac/heater switches are same color/texture as thermal venting tubes and blowing direction changing switch, while audio swicthes and speaker another color, etc. cabin is preferably not bright bold colored so driving environment is not distracted from due to some light reflecitng on some shiny metal/screen etc.
I want an open and airy interior without leather or piano black. The UI needs to be on par with the best mobile phone UI. Buttons for functions that are used while driving, screens for deeper control while stopped.
I love all your videos, and we are definitely moving into exciting times, design wise. So much more can be done now. But one thing I always think of, is James Bond films of say 40 years ago. You'd be stunned by his latest gadget. Today, whatever they think of would be obsolete a year after release. So that's what I see for cars. Obsolescence a year or two later. Like a space race if you like 😳
Agreed. As digital technology inevitably becomes more intertwined with car design, obsolescence will occur sooner. This is no different than with any other piece of technology people buy today, be it a smartphone, tablet, tv, whatever. I am of the opinion that while we've gained a great deal of convenience and safety both due to such integration, we are also past the point of timeless car design for this same reason as such technology changes so rapidly.
I usually disline all kind if bigger screens in cars but this design is really amazing. Large screens are finger pring prone and distract more from driving than physical buttons. For example the current Audi A8 has a really wide screen that basically replaced a beautiful dashboard design.And the new S-Class and Maybach have the big ugly Tesla style iPad in the middle. And the all new Mercedes EQS has an ultra wide screen that's odd shapes and ruins rhe interior for me.
One of my crazy ideas is to have interchangeable seats in a vehicle..make it always feel different .. example : kinda like books at the library..One of many to choose from at ant time...
I feel like the more screen you have, the more distant and cold we are to our surrounding. like your critique of the cyber truck, it's sending a mixed message. This interior is using screen to enlarge, mimicking, and project imageries of real materials or views, anything with a screen in-between just makes the experience much worse. Like zoom's a good program for meeting and talking to someone, but I rather just grab a coffee with that person. have some touch screen tech's cool, but it can't replace analogues. If future design is heading toward numbing our sensibility of being a human, then it's not a desirable path for me.
Agree, interiors of future cars should have even more organic and noble materials than older generations, something that can still give the passengers real warmth and confort instead of financially convenient synthetics.
However much I love this, and I do, and even though I'm deeply impressed, to me this feels and looks more like an eVTOL air transport vehicle than a car. I'm old fashioned but a does it even make sense to call somebody in a fully autonomous vehicle a driver?
True Bruno, this one is geared for those minimal input, long trips segment. A sportier direction would have a different architecture but could still use glass tech instead of more traditional materials. 👍
@@FrankStephensondesign I wonder what would come off blending those ideas you put forth with crystal making techniques, so that a rotary knob or "instruments" would have the finish of a whiskey tumbler or crystal cut engravings for volume and temperature control so that the haptic feedback would be more than electric pulses
🤯 Impressive Sketches and Final Results. I’m an Interior Design Student. But, in a module I’ve got a chance to design something futuristic. I’m designing a VAN 🚐 that is drive able on water with hover technology. And the way you’ve shown the interior perspective I’ll take some examples from this and come up with an idea of my own. Thanks!! That video explaining everything I could take examples from. Thanks!! 🙏🏼
Theres nothing better than Frank pulling out a Bic pen and demonstrating his genius on paper
@@ilgwent8061 Obviously you dont understand much about car design ...
I agree..I was wondering if it was black or blue ink tho..I see it's black ink..✍️
Hey frank, as an engineer at Mercedes-Benz I can tell you that with current technology, we can’t have so much glass in the interior for trim pieces and entire dashboards, due to safety hazards. In the event of the crash, the glass will act as a projectile, that could hit the passengers in the chest, head, eyes etc. it’s feasible, but not with current costs and technology.
Exactly my thoughts regarding the amount glass.
As Frank said multiple times, the designers design the future, not the current tech because this is where we might be possibly going, not where we already are. However I'm totally with you on the safety concerns.
he's sponsored by glass company, but keep what you're doing, I still love real luxury materials like wood and leather when I'm in a car.
First thing to think about is how do you get rid of all the finger prints, safety is second XD
Similar thoughts from an engineer at a nearby competitor, though not involved in interior development ;-)
I always love how Frank tries to push technology to its limits; it gives me so many ideas on my own passion projects. I also like the amount of wood in the car almost as if no matter how far we go we are still intertwined with nature.
I sometimes can't believe how lucky we are to just have access to someone like Frank, with all his experience and expertise, posting stuff like this--and all for free. Accessible to all. I love it
True! Frank is a legend
Day 100 asking Frank to review Vision Gran Turismo cars
Tactile feedback is important to me, although, sound effects can be an effective feedback mechanism for capacitive touch switches. With glass cockpits, an important parameter is always viewing angle. The user should be able to see and use the display, even if they are not positioned directly in front it the display. Finally brightness, I have an aftermarket (EONON) unit in my car which is useless in almost all daylight. Really enjoyed this video, keep pushing the limits!
I feel that tactile feedback is very important too, but having used the trackpads of a macbook and others (where you don't physically press anything, but instead have a feedback via vibration motor), it feels just like the real thing. So I think it might be possible without physical buttons.
Haptic feedback is ok but I'll miss proper switches when they're gone. I'm glad that bikes by their nature still use thumb controls.
Spaces that bring people together is what pushes my button. In the context of cars, the best utilization of space while having sufficient tech to satisfy actual an future needs.
In regards to your ending question, I an a firm believer that there is a place for both the traditional and the tech-focused styles. Car interior design is getting closer and closer to home interior design, and we see that in home interiors there is a fine appreciation for both the classic elegance, but also the modern clean and technological approach. Having both options available offers a richness and diversity that allows you to appreciate exactly what suits you. In my mind the different approaches to interior design should not be fighting, but rather seen as a support to each other, a way to balance each other out. Classic seems even more sophisticated when it's put up next to a tech screen utopia, and vice versa.
However we approach interior design, I do believe that a common aspect that we should do our best to maintain, is the appreciation for the materials themselves and the volumes, surfacing, reflections, etc that we can adjust and polish to add that sense of craftsmanship. Now, whether craftsmanship means a hardened experienced craftsman putting his soul into the work, or if its the ultimate precision machining done by a host of robots to achieve pinnacle surface treatments and allignments, both are equally valuable. As long as we don't lose our sense of appreciation for finer work and attention to details.
Agree.
I also think the future of car design will offer spaces that engage the driver or detach the occupants from the driving experience to introduce them in a form of augmented reality and/or Virtual reality.
Nothing is safer and more comforting than being surrounded in a cocoon of pure glass at 80mph.
Experienced it???
It looks like the bridge of the enterprise, stunning… I’d like to have a northern lights show above my roof liner
"Welcome back" I't's ONLY BEEN FOUR WEEKS. My fix is finally in, thank you, Frank.
I prefer to feel the button. Like those aviation switch on the Mini. Superb... Probably a mix is the right solution.
Hey Frank you absolutely have to review the new ferrari daytona, we need your knowledge.
I understand this is for the future with level 5 autonomy but right now I'm hating the interiors that are acting as if we already have level 5. E.G the new VW golf interior. We need physical controls while we're driving, when its level 5 autonomous with no/minimal issues, then you can get rid of them. I blame Tesla for ruining car interiors right now and choosing form over function.
I do like the aesthetics of your design, Frank. You've led me on the path of seeing this as a viable future of auto interior styling, and even functionality. Mind you, I'm not interested in riding around in a computer cubicle, no matter how fantastically styled. I'd rather enjoy the journey and a less- intrusive data feed, though I know I'm an outlier in that.
What I like about it is the that "screens" are fully integrated / moulded into the interior shape of the car. This is definitely the future, and once this seamless integration of technology becomes a reality, the cars of today with big sticky-outy screens planted on the dash are going to look laughably archaic.
In the future display technology will move beyond glassy screens....like holograms & also tactile surface projections that BMW showcased with the Vision Next 100 concept.
As former BMW Designworks director of innovation and market development, my job was to work with designers and engineers to find or create the technologies to solve drivers problems or offer unique to BMW enhancements to the Ultimate Driving Experience. Sometimes it was working with ex-Apple Ux designers to create the iDrive or Nike fabrications to offer cooler, more cushioned seating. i would suggest 2 processes for designers: watch carefully what drivers and passengers do and discuss their feelings; then imagine what would make their experience more memorable and rewarding (they can’t tell you what they’ve never experienced). That creation that exceeds expectations is the most fun and often leads to the most success
Call me luddite but this interior looks like nightmare to me. In fact I like the aesthetics, but the amount of screens is a major turnoff. No tactile feeling like real buttons and switches, screens will get dead pixels over time and the computers running those screens will slow down and stop working eventually and all that glass is hellishly hard to keep clean and tidy when every fingerprint is visible. And how is this all gonna work during a real, cold winter like here in Finland? And some fake-ass Milky way or norhern lights will never beat the real experience, or even the real sunroof which you can actually open and feel the wind in your hair.
Screens may feel futuristic and cool now, but I'm quite sure the novelty will wear off quite soon, and rather sooner than later we all will be fed up with everything working via screens. In that point the old fashioned gauges will be an exclusive option available only in the most luxurious vehicles. If you don't believe me, just check what has happened in the watch market last 40-50 years.
Hi Frank,
I really appreciate the authentic process and the intentional energy that you bring to your videos! Thank you for communicating a refined inspiration for nature in your work. I look forward to seeing you in the future, too 😌
Feels like an ad for Corning, but the design is beautiful outside of that
At this point I'm starting to believe that Frank can draw with anything if he can draw so well with a Bic pen.
A Bic pen is usually every artist's main weapon.
That's what every automotive designer uses, and they teach you to use at university.
You really are both an artist and an intelligent man. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talent!
Thank you L.
I love spending time with an Automotive Genius! Who's better tha than Frank ? I am inspired by your great design ideas!!🎩🇺🇸🎩
This is an incredible Masterclass. Thank you.
I like the idea of the roof being customizable but i honestly don't need so many screens in the car. Seems more like a thing for business people that are forced to be in cars for long times and don't want to use a laptop
Please do an analysis of the Gordon Murray T.50/T.50s. As the designer of another presumed successor to the McLaren F1, I'm interested to see the similarities and differences between the philosophies behind both designs.
greatful for Frank s sharing his knowledge and passion about design.
Love the interior concept, so cool to see your process like this!
Grazie, Grazie, Grazie!
more interior design please!
I love the vision Frank has on the on "full interiors" with LCD Tech..
The future must always be what's exciting. History is where we come from but the future is what matters most... Can't wait (and work on) to see what's next!
Analog is the way to go in interior car design. It ages better, allows for better differenciation between brands and can be used without taking one's eyes off the road.
I completely agree with the second half of your comment, but you're forgetting that this is made for autonomous cars where taking your eyes off the road is completely normal and you might even want to watch a movie on the highway.
I personally loath the loss of physical buttons. Touch displays are beautiful and 'cool', but they are also bright, potentially distracting, and require you to babysit your interactions when interfacing. There's an important moment when you're feeling for a physical button where you are able to locate it on memory before it's engaged. Screens and capacitive touch sensors force you to focus your attention and be exact with your input. Until we have reliable and fully autonomous vehicles, ones that allow for you to safely focus on other things besides driving, I think this tech is a little too early. Physical controls are safer on multiple levels for that reason. I think there's a lot more design opportunity too when you can physicalize your controls. I miss playing with my family's old audio equipment and feeling how good switches, dials, and buttons can be. It's satisfying to feel the physical clicks of a good switch and the right amount of resistance when turning a weighty dial. To me the lathed and milled metal controls often looked more beautiful and luxurious.
With all that said, I think AR displays can't come soon enough. Receiving information from the windscreen allows you to keep your eyes on the road which I think is as valuable or more than 360 camera safety features or automatic breaking, at least while we have cars driven by people. I really think with the advent of fully electric vehicles we'll see more focus being paid to the interior experience. Can't wait to see what an S-Class is like in the next 5 to 10 years.
Great feedback M!
The part with zooming window is the best because it acknowledge the common goal or experience that passengers are having. I don't think that being bombarded with information from every side will be a high mark for a living in the future. I feel like it's a modern day man speaking, because it's now when it could be considered a luxury to some extent.
This is what I was hoping to be, as I had my doubts if my ideas were good or bad. Now I can take notes from you, thank you Mr. Stephenson.
Im very conflicted about these types of interiors. I really like the versetility and look of these but when you are actually driving they only distract and feel pretty bland. Mechanical buttons still have more emotion and activate more senses than any touchscreen could ever do. You experience trough more than your eyes. Maby in the future some kind of haptic feedback will appear. That would be pretty cool. Seats that recline at speed or some chair vibration in directions of other cars. Autonomous driving will be an blessing for some people but im not sure i want to spend another part of my day looking at a screen.
Clicky buttons and switches are pretty important, our brains easily associates the physical feedback with something turning on/off somewhere and that's completely absent in touch and specially hovering no-touch buttons. I'd say it depends on the person, some may need more of that feedback than others, but most importantly it depends on the gadget or system and every function of it. If the design as a whole "asks" for it then it's ok, but going for fully physical or fully touch designs just for the sake of keeping & sticking to one harmonious style is kinda simple-minded; a combination of both, with clicky buttons for main & important functions and touch for optional & leisure related features, is completely viable.
A physical button can also be operated without looking at it, I live in 2 season country. One rain and wind season, and one cold, snowy and windy season. I need to be able to adjust fans and heat while driving, not somewhere in the menu system on a touch screen.
Tactile tech is almost always my favorite.
nice episode. fresh content, actual design concept being made alongside. NICE!
this is product placement done right. such a classy man Frank
Frank what are your thoughts on the DaytonaSP3. Personally I like all the angles when viewed independently however, when looking at the whole car it just looks messy. Am I missing something?
Episode’s up tomorrow Marc. 👍
Glad you are back, was getting worried.
Very interesting ideas, and good problem solving.
Frank can you review the last Alfa GT by Bertone? Such an iddly cool car
I would love a Frank/ Gordon Magner collab. Would be an amazing concept design.
What is it with the Tesla style giant ipad in the dashboard? the only two real improvements that have come in 20 years of car info is the mph indicator and sat nav but only when I’m using sat nav. Everything else is a distraction… music and phone can be voice activated or controlled with a simple screen. Make cars a joy to drive first and that’s not reminding me I spend all day at work in front of a screen….
I was just thinking that frank should make a video on interiors and he posts this. Wow! What a coincidence! Keep up the good work Frank!
100 years later: Everything in the car is a screen. Seats, floor, wheels.
Looks absolutely amazing Mr Frank :D Looks like something from Cyberpunk absolutely Beautiful
If you want to imagine just how crazy the interior designers are, just know that in our color measurement lab we've got like 40 types of black.
Please don't use those awful shiny plastics for the consoles
@@marfrandema1884 You're out of luck mate. Better get a pair of new gloves.
I'll side with Alfa Romeo on this... "we don't want to design a car *around* an iPad" ;)
Hi Frank, I really enjoy your videos! I've been seeing alot of Toyota C-HR's around recently, a boring hybrid crossover but with unique lines I feel, and I wonder what you could come up with transcribing it into more of a Supercar design? Also I drive an Alfa Brera and I'm glad we share a love for it. 👍
FERRARI DAYTONA SP3
Frank: I think.... why not...
Corning engineers: * intensifies sweat *
That aside thanka you for all these videos, they really offer a lot of insight into the thought behind design processes.
Always stunning and huge learning through your videos! Many thanks for sharing with your channel!
At first, I was pretty sure I wasn't going to like it for one reason or another. But the more Frank drew and talked about the various possibilities the more I was pulled in. By the end of it I found myself thinking, "I want that". Ultimately I think it depends on the driving experience you are looking for that particular day or moment but this definitely looks like it would result in a really great riding experience. Love watching Frank do his magic.
As I have said in my 40 years of business, " I go where the technology goes ".
Frank,
Please cover your thoughts on the revival of Japanese sports cars comeback. The Supra/Z4, GR86/BRZ, the 400Z, and the Civic/Integra. Do you think some of these updates miss the mark in the sense of historic styling? Talk us through the behind the scenes when beginning back an old nameplate.
Very inspiring Frank!
I know you've mentioned in past why you use a pen.
But it'd be great to hear about the materials, colour pens etc and other tools you use in design. Something like an "essentials" tools/materials would be fantastic
Ah Yes, i've been waiting for you and for interior design.
And I have them both at the same time
Buenas tardes Curro. Supongo que tanto cristalito y tanta pantallita será la tendencia en el diseño de interiores, pero para mi (que ya tengo mis años), donde se ponga el cuero, el aluminio, la madera y los botoncitos físicos, que se quite "tó lo demá", pues en mi opinión refleja interiores muy fríos. Respecto de las pantallitas, a mi me da que es puro "decontenting". Como siempre, buen video. Por cierto, me alegra saber que estás "hasta las orejas" de trabajo. Un abrazo desde Cádiz.
Buenas tardes Curro. Supongo que tanto cristalito y tanta pantallita será la tendencia en el diseño de interiores, pero para mi (que ya tengo mis años), donde se ponga el cuero, el aluminio, la madera y los botoncitos físicos, que se quite "tó lo demá", pues en mi opinión refleja interiores muy fríos. Respecto de las pantallitas, a mi me da que es puro "decontenting". Como siempre, buen video y gracias por tus aportaciones. Por cierto, me alegra saber que estás "hasta las orejas" de trabajo. Un abrazo desde Cádiz.
Reminds me of the Toyota Previa interior. I recall as a child thinking how far ahead of its time it was.
After a long time we have a awesome cardesign video
I'm excited for the future of the car industry, I would be lying if I said I wouldn't miss the feedback, response, and overall connection and feel of a car, but we have to move forward. Classic cars will always be able to give feedback and allow you to create a connection, and true driving experience, but I will for sure miss the real automobile
What's the music?
It's epic
Hey Frank … nice video. Could you please give us your thoughts on the new Corvette C8? Thanks man.
I’d love to see your take on the Lucid Air EV
Frank please do review of the new Lucid Air, really like that car but it lacks your opinion.
Personally, I miss good switchgear. I get that cost and design is driving things toward touchscreens, but I think that touchscreens are at best the second-best interface to do just about anything. I have never personally used any software that I feel was best done on a touchscreen (I think it says something that even stylus drawing is done on a pad separate from the screen in a lot of cases). And, if an automaker is going to add a touchscreen with a computer in my dashboard, then I'd like to do some computer-y things with it. For instance, why do I still need an OBD reader if there's already a computer in my dashbaord? There should be an app that tells me about any codes in the car. Why can't I make a spreadsheet to keep track of service appointments, costs, mileages between services, etc. that stays with the car through all owners?
I'll just cap off by saying that my favorite thing about my dad's 70 Chevy truck, that is otherwise a completely un-notable classic, is locking and unlocking the doors. Putting the key into the door and feeling the entire door lock mechanism move because I have two fingers on a key is infinitely satisfying to me.
I agree, switchgear should never be completely replaced. One thing I'd like to see is to be able to program what each physical switch\button does. Every driver has a different set of their most oft used controls and it would be cool to be able to have your own most important controls all right at the flip of an actual switch.
As for OBD access, that's not going to happen as automakers want to keep internal data obfuscated to the majority of owners in order to funnel as many of them as possible to dealer service. If they were going to more freely share OBD info, it woulda happened at some point in the 3+ decades the system has been in place. But there are plenty of simple solutions for that from a free reading at an auto parts store to a phone app to just driving around with your laptop plugged into the port displaying whatever you'd like. I agree it would be nice to have that laptop functionality built in but it might lose OEMs money so it'll never happen.
@@solidXxXtuna Agreed on why OBD in dash isn't a thing. Cool idea for the customizable switches, especially since you could just put a screen that shows the correct icon on every one when you reassign it.
All I hope is it will be possible to buy a car a decade down the road that still has a few switches or buttons or knobs. That is not a Rolls Royce or Konigsegg. There's this potential 'tactile screen' tech that can raise the surface of the screen to emulate a button as well as a simulated button click when you finger-squish it. I dunno. If simulated beef gets 97% realistic, I'll eat it. But you better believe I'm still going out for a real steak on special occasions.
Most of the issues I have with car interiors today is the high quality of organic materials such as leather and stitching clash with the cheapness of technology parts. Most of the technology looks so darn cheap. Or the enclosing it is housed in.
Most of the time it doesn’t blend in well at all.
I’ve noticed as well that most of the time designers will tone back on the elegance of the organic materials as not to clash with the technology. Taking away from an overall luxury and elegant feel.
Your favourite Citroën designs pleease
The only issue that i find with this design its the sociofugal nature of the seat splitting panel, in my opinion private vehicles should encourage a "sofa" type of interaction and comfort in the back at least. Otherwise its always cool and at some point necessary to push the boundary s of stablished design, huge fan of the channel, keep it up.
shame this video went under appreciated, I enjoyed it despite my first comment being a request
BMW XM please?
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Leaking alpha my man
Love the focus on interior design. Also get why screens were a focus here but I think information panels in the car should become more invisible. Audi showed an interior concept where wood panels were also acting as screens. When we look at movies like „Her“ I like the approach of today’s modern technology becoming more like furniture and generally less of a focus … so the future of car design for me would be something of a living room with a minimalist Swedish design sense where the idea of this interior space being a cockpit is completely removed, screens or input panels mostly invisible until you use them…
It still get me every time I see Frank's trusty Bic ball point pen. I always expect some hyper expensive fine point pencils. Id like to here what he thinks about the Rayfield Caliburn from Cyberpunk 2077? About the no window's, all AR thing.
voice control mic adapter onto ur phone should replace infotainment. speaker noise cancelation can help with personalized voice commands. for more complaex tasks, semi auto swiping to scroll through pages of few switches of large size, so u minimize need to be careful with finger especially over bympy road. system will not allow user to do complex tasks while at speed b/c distracted driving unsafe. speakers are optional, most people use a earbud a little away from ear so they can hear honking cars, emergency car sirens etc.
purposefulness is timeless, so minimal aesthetics bring focus to parts of common function are great ex. ac/heater switches are same color/texture as thermal venting tubes and blowing direction changing switch, while audio swicthes and speaker another color, etc.
cabin is preferably not bright bold colored so driving environment is not distracted from due to some light reflecitng on some shiny metal/screen etc.
I want an open and airy interior without leather or piano black. The UI needs to be on par with the best mobile phone UI. Buttons for functions that are used while driving, screens for deeper control while stopped.
I love all your videos, and we are definitely moving into exciting times, design wise. So much more can be done now. But one thing I always think of, is James Bond films of say 40 years ago. You'd be stunned by his latest gadget. Today, whatever they think of would be obsolete a year after release. So that's what I see for cars. Obsolescence a year or two later. Like a space race if you like 😳
Agreed. As digital technology inevitably becomes more intertwined with car design, obsolescence will occur sooner. This is no different than with any other piece of technology people buy today, be it a smartphone, tablet, tv, whatever. I am of the opinion that while we've gained a great deal of convenience and safety both due to such integration, we are also past the point of timeless car design for this same reason as such technology changes so rapidly.
I am excited for the future
Nice, looks like the navigation panel on a starship.
would have loved to watch you picking the brains of the corning guys!
Looks cool, but I think all controls should convey tactile information so that you can use them without taking your eyes off the road.
I usually disline all kind if bigger screens in cars but this design is really amazing.
Large screens are finger pring prone and distract more from driving than physical buttons. For example the current Audi A8 has a really wide screen that basically replaced a beautiful dashboard design.And the new S-Class and Maybach have the big ugly Tesla style iPad in the middle. And the all new Mercedes EQS has an ultra wide screen that's odd shapes and ruins rhe interior for me.
I wanna know what Frank thinks about the Toyota Rhombus's interior
I would love to hear his thoughts on piano black plastic. I do miss physical controls though.
Only if it has wave-free surfacing.
One of my crazy ideas is to have interchangeable seats in a vehicle..make it always feel different .. example : kinda like books at the library..One of many to choose from at ant time...
yes finally tlakin about interiors
The exterior draws you to the vehicle, the interior sells the vehicle.
Please review the new Acura integra prototype
I feel like the more screen you have, the more distant and cold we are to our surrounding.
like your critique of the cyber truck, it's sending a mixed message. This interior is using screen to enlarge, mimicking, and project imageries of real materials or views, anything with a screen in-between just makes the experience much worse. Like zoom's a good program for meeting and talking to someone, but I rather just grab a coffee with that person.
have some touch screen tech's cool, but it can't replace analogues. If future design is heading toward numbing our sensibility of being a human, then it's not a desirable path for me.
Agree, interiors of future cars should have even more organic and noble materials than older generations, something that can still give the passengers real warmth and confort instead of financially convenient synthetics.
What about the design of the EQS??
Waiting for Ferrari Daytona video 😍
However much I love this, and I do, and even though I'm deeply impressed, to me this feels and looks more like an eVTOL air transport vehicle than a car. I'm old fashioned but a does it even make sense to call somebody in a fully autonomous vehicle a driver?
True Bruno, this one is geared for those minimal input, long trips segment. A sportier direction would have a different architecture but could still use glass tech instead of more traditional materials. 👍
@@FrankStephensondesign I wonder what would come off blending those ideas you put forth with crystal making techniques, so that a rotary knob or "instruments" would have the finish of a whiskey tumbler or crystal cut engravings for volume and temperature control so that the haptic feedback would be more than electric pulses
🤯 Impressive Sketches and Final Results. I’m an Interior Design Student. But, in a module I’ve got a chance to design something futuristic. I’m designing a VAN 🚐 that is drive able on water with hover technology. And the way you’ve shown the interior perspective I’ll take some examples from this and come up with an idea of my own. Thanks!! That video explaining everything I could take examples from. Thanks!! 🙏🏼
Great! Good luck too Vin! 👍
I think in this case we could get rid of windows on the outside overall and just use cameras and screens inside.
Northern lights please for the glass ceiling. Maybe live transmission when its at its best.