Debating a (VERY MAD) Guy Who Believes in Demons
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Jake:”I ran a Bible study for years on RUclips.”
Andrew:”I highly doubt it”
Jake:”here’s a clip”
Andrew:”oh, wow. Look at the time. I have to go.”
I like how the whole time Andrew keeps saying "I can't see you" when Jake says he's not wearing the corn suit, then when he asks the bible questions (1:11:39) he says "you looked it up, I just watched you!" Which one is it, is he watching or not?!
@@evanwebber9981 Lying is in no way surprising coming from Jeebus clowns and reich wingers.
The love and patience of Christ just radiates from this guy
There was one person who was Christan but they were my friend and they liked Bernie Sanders but when I told them I don't believe in religion they said that's ok and then we went bowling and it was fun. And they were very cool person because we also helped homeless people with giving out new wallets with $10 and gift cards to close food places around and we have our phone cards if they had a phone and it was really fun because the homeless people we met were really cool and stuff
@@TobyFloof well that's pretty awesome of you guys.
A lot of these types of "christians" are just terrible at being Christian. Hell they obviously indulge in 2 deadly sins a lot wrath and the one that's considered the worst pride. They legit think they are better than everyone else and use this justification to enact violence on others. Literally the worst of the worst christian stereotypes. The bible literally instructs it's followers to the opposite. You are supposed to not judge and turn the other cheek etc. Men were created equal but no they have to think they're special for some reason. They also seem to be soverien citizen types and think god gave them the right to act like they don't live in a society even though jesus literally tells them that they need to follow the law of man too.
@@TobyFloof There are plenty of cool, tolerant Christians out there, it’s just that people like Andrew are very loud and never shut the hell up so we hear them less. The problem isn’t religion, it’s being reactionary.
It was my new year's resolution last year to not just judge Christians as total assholes and because of people like this I was only partly successful. I kept tabs on it and had 114 people I interacted with and only had 6 positive interactions that ended in mutual respect and only 38 engaged in good faith.
The other 60 are intentionally hostile with 10 being either pure trolling or just the person was just too dumb or too dishonest to even be taken seriously at even a baseline level. They did not even argue they just made dishonest comments. They had to have a 1 on 1 conversation of at least five lines of text or 5 minutes of talking.
Despite this which by any metric is indeed a failure it nonetheless improved my view of Christians, but this guy is still among the worst of that group. Insane hostility, extreme anger, incoherent thoughts, absurdly smug, inability to communicate, unprompted childish insults, dishonest tactics, persecution complex. He is under a very low bar.
He is just dishonest at a baseline. I think he is just not capable of actually being honest. it is just phenomenal to watch. As an atheist you have that angry phase, then you get over it, but then you kind of come full circle and realise a lot of your anger is justified, and people like this justify it.
Andrew: "The demionic has been caught on camera several times"
Jake: "Lemme see"
Andrew: "Man shut the fuck up!"
Pure gold.
Jake: People have mental disorders and weird drug reactions
This dude: that's just psycho babble, it's totally just demons
Lord Daniel, this guy is IRRITATING. The fragile masculinity just oozes from this guy. You did absolutely nothing to him and he just started projecting off the bat. Reminds me of the very insecure guys at the high school table being edgy.
He's always acting in this aggressive manner. I don't know why, he's like perpetually angry or something.
Him saying that someone else is annoying almost made me fell off my chair...
He called drug addicts "degenerates" who he would NEVER be caught dead around.
Suuuper Christian of you...😇
He also basically said psycho-bable ( psychology) was thinking like a woman... great.
@@BornOnThursday I bet he listens to jesse lee peterson.
Homey smokes more than a chimney in winter. Just cigs, as far as I know, though.
I have a friend who's 10x the Christian this guy is.
@@SeverelyGlitchy You know his walls are yellow and it smells like shit. Probably demon cum though, couldn't be from hotboxing marlboros in front of his computer.
Buddy thinks he's controlling the conversation while Jake's playing him Joseph Joestar style.
Your next line is "demons are bad thoughts."
“Next you’ll call me a fatty and get mad about the corn suit.”
This dude is a petty but hurt child, he got all his depate skills in the lunch room of his high school, because apparently context is a sign you lose...
I get real, "you wouldn't know my girlfriend, she lives in Canada" vibes from him. 😂
imagine being afraid of imaginary demons when there are plenty of verifiably real things to be afraid of
Like real demons (My Little Pony TV Series)
I say let him focus on being scared of imaginary things, makes it so much easier to swindle him or take advantage of him. He will be too busy looking for demons than for people around him. Haha
Kenneth Copeland is a real demon
"No! I must kill the demons" he shouted
The radio said "No, John. You are the demons"
Like literally and I hate to say it... UFOs. They do not have to be extraterrestrial invaders that want to dominate the world. If the government made high-tech aeronautics units and vaporized a city a UFO vaporized a city.
We know aeronautics is real, airplanes are totally mundane and experienced by billions of people on a 24/7 basis. A UFO can just be a new one.
This is the wormiest-sounding guy I've heard in a long, long time. He sounds like a Crank Yankers character that's based on smug whinyness. Glad he's not representing anything I'd want defended. He's a liability to whatever side he's on.
I got strong Adam carolla vibes so close lol
@@GummiDropz Andrew is going to need a much nicer garage and a hack doctor to give shitty advice with if he's going to get into the upper echelons of the right wing.
Ridiculing an idea or something that someone says, is not an “attack”. These right wing Christians are so sensitive. Hilariously enough, him calling Jake fat….repeatedly mocking him, THAT’S harassing
“I’m just gonna sit here and fuck with you”
[TOTAL SILENCE]
Wow what a brain genius
All he'd be able to do is call him a fatass...
The demons told him it would work
Wtf is wrong with this dude he’s sooo mad
Edit. Oh he’s a “persecuted” Christian gotcha. Any criticism is an attack ok buddy
Unless he's saying racist things to minorities, in that scenario he's not attacking anyone.
@@coletrickle1775 f u buddy, u suck
So. This was not bigoted. Would you consider this an "attack", or at least hostile?
I knew this guys voice sounded familiar. He got absolutely bodied by Vaush in a moderated debate. You could even HEAR his eye twitch when you mention Vaush's name 😂
I'm only a couple of minutes in but the dude being annoyed at being there already sets the mood
I gotta say, Jake’s ability to maintain his composure and crack jokes is astounding. I was sick of this guy 5 minutes in. I feel bad for anyone that has to listen to him regularly.
This dude starts thinking he can gallop all over you, realizes you will call him out, and ends up feeling stupid. It is a really beautiful story arc
The corn cob works every time. They all think bringing it up is some big own
They are literally falling face-first into the trap that the corn suit is made to set up.
My mom walked in on me watching Jake and tried to tell me he was a bad influence because of the corn suit. Made me laugh so damn hard. Old people HATE corn.
Jake: Look at me! I’m a clown in a corn suit!
Guest: Oh this is gonna be easy!
Jake: *starts speaking eloquently*
Guest: Wtf
Oh good god no this is too much and I literally heard the introduction. Andrew also goes by “Big papa fascist” who, along with his homeschooled wife, go around debating people and claiming victory afterwards. Quite cringe
Yeah, he got big mad at the Vaush name drop because Vaush clapped his cheeks on immigration. He’s painfully fragile and stupid.
Is BPF the one who always smokes?
@@d3l3tes00n lol fuckin yes. He’s also the one who calls himself a fascist ironically and then sounds a lot like a fascist.
@@d3l3tes00n Yup, that’s the guy.
Dude doesn't even seem to understand what a "strawman argument" even is. He appears to think anytime Jake disagrees with him it's a strawman. Corn bless you, Jake
He kept bringing up fallacies fallaciously. Meanwhile he himself was constantly interrupting and attacking Jake Ad Hominem. What a loser
I feel bad for everyone that has to put up with this guy in person...
Imagine how he treats women. Holy shit. Just saw in the chat his wife gave bucketloads to Fuentes and is proud her daughter is married to a Nazi. Farkkkkkkkk. These people are so dangerous.
@@carolinemaybe bold of you to assume he is capable of talking to woman
He's the guy at work that thinks he's cool with everyone but everyone hates him
@@GummiDropz I know exactly what you're talking about. Like this guy, he barrels over everyone in a conversation, and when I didn't laugh at his awful jokes, he ended up yelling at me. Those people suuuuuuck.
I get the vibe that demon guy was one of those angry sits-alone-at-lunch kinds of kids in school that couldn’t make friends because he constantly pushed them away with his weird snarky and confrontational attitude.
Andrew (BPF) always does this shit where he's like "I tHoUgHt We WeRe GoNnA hAvE a CoNvErSaTiOn?!?!" but that really belies that he's never had a human conversation in his life because making a statement and waiting until the person is 100% finished with their point before proceeding is not how normal human conversations go. Really shows how his own friends are people he "owns" (his wife and like 9 children) and/or ChatGPT.
Jesus said in Bible to call people fat
Wait, this is Big Papa Fascist, right? Oh, this is gonna be great. His fragility is legendary.
Ooooh, is that who it is? I thought his insufferable voice sounded familiar.
100%, BPF is Andrew from The Crucible. Surprisingly, he seems to have gotten less petulant over time. Probably still believes some awful shit, but he’s capable of acting like a normal-ass person and he’s not a bad debate moderator.
@@Kropothead If someone hypnotized him into thinking he was moderating 24/7 he might actually act normal for 5+ seconds a day.
Jesus this is the most secondhand embarrassment I've had in a long time. Jake didn't have to even do anything and the guy just kept digging himself a deeper hole.
More proof that debates are mostly useless and dumb. ESPECIALLY when one person in the debate is a absolute dip shit believes in demons lololol. Something tells me this kid will eventually grow smart enough to see that he's a gigantic ef up loser and then he'll video game himself. Lolz
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I mean... I wouldn't go that far. He's obviously convinced of some pretty dumb ideas but wishing for someone to (Minecraft) themselves is a bit much.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 What's up muscular comrade? 💪🚽
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 This dude’s like in his 40s. He has a wife. He’s a whole depressing-ass adult.
@@chibbersthesquirrel6189 It's ok, he wasn't being mean, it was just a demon in his thots
Lol Andrew "I'm being targeted by the movers and shakers" Wilson sounds very triggered from the start. Why won't you accept demons and ghosts are real, you're persecuting him.
Lol bringing up police sketch artists is hilarious because they, along with eye witnesses, are pretty notoriously unreliable. Also, I watch a lot of trials and I don't think I have ever seen a police sketch being used in court. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but police sketches are more used as probable cause to then look further into a person of interest and then gather actual evidence. I don't think a sketch is evidence in and of itself. Lol
Police sketch is like fourth hand evidence.
Yeah, I thought it was just a mock-up based on witness' description.
The only case I can think of in which a sketch was a main piece of evidence is Steven Avery's (now overturned) conviction.
It’s ironic that the guy thinks people who witness witness UFOs, and Bigfoot aren’t valid and not the same as believing in demons. And of course when there isn’t an argument the dude resorts to preschool insults typically the physical appearance. And the endless projection, and the claims to be the smartest man but thinks dragons, vampires, yokai and other mythical monsters that existed long before Christianity came around are just recent inventions.
I love this guy. He's just so mad that he can't handle his own anger. I love this. This entire thing is just a showcase of Jakes character, and it's wonderful. His presence is enough to get this guy so fuming that he loses his composure when the smallest thing doesn't go his way. What a loser man.
So I used to believe that the answer to BPF was creators like Vaush and Destiny. I was wrong. This is the correct answer to BPF. Well done Jake. Well done.
Eh, wouldnt lump Vaush and Destiny in the same category especially these days, Vlörscht made BPF big mad awhile back
@@douglaslangley9251 Veauxche clapped his cheeks. He was malding on camera. Guy needs therapy badly.
So no one is going to mention how he thinks John Milton's Paradise Lost is part of the Bible? Just me, then?
I run into that issue with Christian nutters all the time too.
When you believe in literary fiction as truth, you get confused which ones are part of your belief structure and which are scripture. Though I doubt this moron has read either book to be honest.
Oh, he's a Christian. The least likely group to have read the Bible
Yeah, every single conception he had about "the fall of angels" is just Milton. Shocker, conservative christians don't know their own faith.
He really likes to name logical fallacies, but he doesn't seem to like understanding what they actually are.
Gods, what a fucking man baby. You have so much more patience than I ever could Jake.
Why do they always try to use the corn thing as a sick burn? Don't they know you do it on purpose for money?
People paying him to humiliate and embarrass himself makes it better than if he chose to wear a stupid costume willingly? Lol okay bro.
Because most of these people are humorless antisocial idiots. They don't understand what self aggrandizing humor is. Jake finds it funny to debate people and make video's while in a corn costume. Making fun of him for that is the whole point of why he does it because it is ridiculous and therefore funny and them reacting to it as if they're hurting him makes it even funnier.
@@swampysix9375 What’s it like being completely joyless and having a perilously fragile self image? Like, is there an upside to it at all? Genuinely wondering.
@@Kropothead yup. The upside is that you can’t find videos of me making a complete fool out of myself while also dressed up like corn.
@@swampysix9375 You're just mad that you can't wear a corn suit and get paid lol
So I have been fact checking behind this dude and literally nothing he has said is based in any fact or even mythology. Noetics is a branch of metaphysics that focuses on the study of human intellect and is not religious in origin. It most certainly has nothing to do with demons.
When I googled it and added the word “realm” I got a page about Islamic mysticism so it’s something but also…not Christian…
I too believe in demons! They are written about in the 5th edition monster manual on pages 50-65. Checkmate Jake, king me!
I see demons all the time. Like Chucky Kirk, Ted Cruz, Margarine Trailer Green, Tucky Carlston, Donny Trunk, Ronald Duh-Santis, Alecks Jonestown etc. All you gotta do is watch right wing media.
Holy shit this is hilarious. I'm only a few minutes in and this guy is just seething that Jake won't let him just spew nonsense
I genuinely think this guy throws insults at his own reflection in the mirror.
This guy has so many blatant issues with self-respect and self-insecurity that he can’t be taken seriously.
The cringe was so strong. I've never had so much second hand embarrassment.
Andrew seems to think stating facts about his opponent are somehow insults. "You're a leftist! You're a corncob!" like yes, congrats, you know basic facts. Well done, didn't expect that of you.
“Intangible- likely metaphysical” the fuck…? He just made that leap like there isn’t a huge chasm in between those two
Glass is transparent like invisible.
The part near the end where he reveals he never read the Bible 😂😂😂
Those type of """Christians""" never stop amazing me!
This guy seriously said it has to be transcontinental. Bigfoot and yeti has to exist also by that logic.
The story of Sekhmet, the Egyptian feline warrior goddess associated with both plague and healing, is considered by some to be one of the oldest vampire tales. Legend holds that the sun god, Ra, sent his daughter Sekhmet down to punish humankind for their disobedience.
Those blood-and-beer cocktails are real trouble, man.
Egyptians get a vampire catgirl dommy mommy, the West gets a pacifist in a robe. Our mythologies suck.
"I like to have constructive conversations... would you shut the fuck up?!" lmao. So constructive
I'm absolutely wheezing and I'm only like 8min in. Solid job my dude.
If you chainsmoked like Andrew then you'd have been wheezing way earlier
This guy saying everyone has intrusive thoughts is such a self report.
That's just you honey.
The whole "not knowing what thoughts are" is like saying we don't know how rivers flow because we can't track every water molecule in the river.
I do love how mister Angry Mc Gee doesn't seem to get he's being toyed with f.i. during the Air Bud bit.
Plus him claiming others are demon possessed while sounding like he got an anger elemental stuck in a sensitive place is hilarious.
Jake clowning on bpf is fucking gold I didnt know I needed.
How does this guy have ANY conversations, like ever?
He pays.
Andrew literally sounds like a child having a temper tantrum over nothing, and nothing he says makes any logical sense whatsoever.
Jesus Christ this guy! Doesn't he understand the difference between a straw man and misunderstanding a position because it was poorly explained?
Bigfoot doesn't have the same magnitude of evidence ?
They made a twelve season show about looking for it that had MILLIONS of fans. Dude is delusional.
If you watch to end of the show, they ended up catching him. He was renting a 3 bedroom 2 bath with Beezelbub in Summit Lake, Nevada.
Andrew has been COMPLETELY validated.
I knew it, see, they were bound to find him eventually.
Things that have been drawn after someone supposedly saw it:
Mothman
Leprechauns
Loch Ness Monster
Aliens (pick a kind, too)
Bigfoot
Chupacabra
Anything else anyone wanna add?
Nah chupacabra doesn't count because it's not old enough, less than 30 y/o
Annabelle, the Goatman, the Boggy Creek Monster, and the Wendigo.
I just saw Big Snakk The Weed Dinosaur just now. I'm drawing a stick figure as we speak. So they'll be real by the time you read this.
yw
@@verager2493 Isn't there enough horror in this world... DEMONS exist, man, come on
Everybody who saw the leprechaun say YEA
Wasn't Lillith a proto-vampire?
Yeah, but that’s Jewish apocrypha, and I feel like Andrew’s not a huge fan of the Chosen People, if you know what I mean. Dope story though.
@@Kropothead totally get ya on that, I guess I'm just trying to say that the concept of blood/soul/essence sucking monsters has probably been around for a longer than the written word, let alone our Gothic concept of Dracula lol
vampiric creatures feature in mesopotamian culture (which is quite a bit before jebus)
wow this guy knows all the debate buzzwords but no idea what they mean lol
Jake, you really shouldn't bully disabled people like that. Shame on you
Well, seems like the Vaush ableism arc is over, so I gotta get my ableism somewhere. And Jake’s got the right stuff.
@@Kropothead Vaush's ableism arc is over? Nah, its on hiatus. Someone needs to make Thoughtslime seethe in perpetuity
@bo rick heres hoping
We all have our demons I guess
"You seem emasculated by me." Yes those are the words that perfectly sum up what I am watching here.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP AND ANSWER MY QUESTION" classic conservative debate tactic
Omg I am listening to this at work and I am struggling to stop myself from laughing loudly and disturbing my co worker. Good job my dude
Your genuine excitement at the Pop Quiz Bowl bit straight up warmed my cockles.
Racialism isn’t racist. Then he says racialists would vote for strictly a white president.
this guy sounds just like dave
In some ways he’s worse.
I don't think this was a conversation with having posting or listening to sorry to say to Jake thank you for your time though
Hard disagree, this is comedy gold!
I only clicked for the thumbnail but I think I'm going to love this lol
😂 I love the Kitchen Nightmares reference in youe screen name. 👏👏 Also, are you a Shaniac? I love buzzfeed unsolved. Watching Shane mock Ryan in scary places is too entertaining.
This was the most frustrating video I've ever watched, and it was hilarious the whole time. Lmao
I wish you had gotten into the biblically accurate angel descriptions with their many wings eyes faces and animal parts.
Police sketch artists are trying to get a guess on what a possible suspect might be. It isn't proof or evidence. That picture means nothing. The testimony might be evidence, but they need the actual person. Proof that person was there. And then evidence is made to show the the sketch is accurate. The sketch is not evidence. It is something that can be backed up by evidence. In that sense, it is a "forensic hypothesis" on a certain assailant that then needs evidence to be proven. (And they often suck at their hypotheses).
The part where this dude kept claiming police sketches are "evidence" drove me up a wall. Police sketch artists aren't "drawing evidence", they're drawing a CLAIM. You can CLAIM someone who looks like that broke into your house, but drawing their face isn't evidence of that. The broken window is evidence your house could've gotten broken into, the neighbors doorbell cam spotting the suspect is evidence someone was there, and the police sketch is there to bolster the evidence. The sketch itself can't be considered evidence, because that's so easy to fake.
this is about what I'd expect from someone who believes demons are real
Responding to someone for what they say in public is not an “attack” or “harassment”.
Well, that was something... Really reminds you there are some weird cookies out there.
I'm only at the start but I love the dynamic being set up here, "progressives are supposed to be nice." I'm sorry guy there isn't a mythical book of dos and don't for progressives so it's a little harder to call them hypocrits. On the other hand, Christians are supposed to be nice, forgiving, patient all that shit according to the book they follow.
Atheists will make fun of Jinn as quick as Demons, and if you said you believed in Oni, you'd probably get laughed at too, it has nothing to do with progressive views on religion. It's the demon thing. And he knows it which is why he was so anxious to explain himself instead of let Jake do the intro, he is embarrassed that he believes in Demons; that's hilarious.
I'm going watch the video now.
Thoughts are physical though. They can be affected by physically touching your brain, ingesting substances, exposure to or deprivation of stimuli. All of this is surely physical process acting on physical substances.
This sounds like Telltales evil twin brother
I'm a simple man, I see a debate and one of the bad boys of ghost hunting in the thumbnail and I'm watching that shit.
I feel as though every time I've witnessed an argument outside of a high school debate team, when someone incessantly brings up fallacies, it's usually because there's no way to refute a point without their own argument falling apart.
anyone else think this demon dude sounds exactly like mr. boss from smiling friends lmao
The first five minutes riling him up made me laugh because he was so mad (edited bc it's 5 am and i misspoke oopps)
"it's not a belief."
""so you don't believe?"
"STOP STRAW MANNING ME!"
I think debate may have been a strong word for this discussion... great time nonetheless though lol
Discussion? More like word clusters exchange
I love how condescending you get and how most modern day "bros" can't really handle it without ever stopping to ask "WHY" you are treating them that way.
Vaush gets this, TJ gets this...alot of the good ones do it and I for one can't get enough!
(Btw still not made the steak yet, met a girl so...that has been kinda been my life rn as you can guess ^^; BUT she is coming over the weekend so I can try it then!)
Met a girl? Better not be a therapist, smh
While written accounts could be evidence of demons, but it could also be evidence of an overactive imagination or that witnesses are lying or delusional. So this guy's arguement about evidence doesn't mean much.
like literally all of christianity being just visions and Paul never saying anything about a Jesus that was a human being?
I love the "I'm just gonna say he's strawmanning to make him look bad"
"thats not my claim, don't straw man me" dude needs to let people finish their sentence
You strawmaned him by uploading this video
This made me want to start watching live again! This guy was seriously super mad 🤣
I LOVE that you just clowned on him the whole time perfect way to deal with people like that!
The funny thing about police sletch artists and their sketches being used as evidence is that the sketch isn't evidence of anything if you don't find the real person associated with the sketch. He seems to forget that part, that it is referring to a person you can demonstrate is real at the end of the day.
Dudes debate strategy is constantly talk over and interrupt while simultaneously complaining you can't speak
“They are intrusive thoughts”…(20:55)
No, there is no such thing as an intrusive thoughts as all your thoughts are out of your control.
My favorite part is when people like this say "can't we just have a normal conversation without interrupting me?"
Well, it's a conversation when there is a statement and a response and it goes from there. If you just want to make a bunch of statements and not have them responded to when they come up, especially for clarification, that's called a monologue, bud
Not me just now realizing this is THAT JAKE from the Bible Reloaded. Holy shit what a blast from my atheist past.
Wow, the guy from “how to train your dragon” is a real jerk.
Also, I can replace "god" from certain passages without removing the divinity from their meaning. If I take the creation myth, remove god, and discuss the "divine quality" of nature, I have made deism. Or a kind of animism.
The start of the debate is painful to listen to. Andrew refuses to answer Jakes questions at all and essentially misses what jake is trying to ask.
He keeps saying magnitude of evidence as though that means anything. Evidence is something that might lead one to a specific conclusion but proof is something that means the conclusion reached is certain.