109 is the best option. You never know what types of people you will encounter especially in Richmond. The song is on point accuracy and you can say I was on the 109
This is a great example of a resilient network. Sure it's faster to take the train, but trams and busses are a great alternative during disruptions, and they also travel to different intermediate destinations. More Melbourne stations should be like Box Hill
"Almost all trains will not stop at East Richmond" ...... one of Melbourne's ongoing truisms. I think the station is only still standing so the operator can claim a route is semi-express by not stopping at one station.
I frequently travel to the city from box hill. A neat little fact: some peak weekday services travel express from box hill - Richmond, which takes only 20 minutes. Box hill is probably also the most disgusting station on the network.
There's a station in Wellington that's also called Box Hill, but it's nothing like the busy interchange at a shopping centre. Instead, it's a tiny single-track station on a sharp curve and the Johnsonville Line.
Found this video very interesting as a Sydneysider. I heard Box Hill is in contention to become Melbourne's 2nd CBD so all these transport options would definitely work in its favour!
A good example of a scenario where the bus is worth it is when buses are replacing trains between Box Hill and the city for major works on the line as in that case the train replacement buses may be slower than the 902 bus if the train replacement buses don’t use the freeway on their route.
Bit of fun. I can say from personal experience, the 109 is not too terribly impacted by traffic unless it's really, really peak level driving. Funnily this probably is partly due to just how many stops it has to make anyway. But yeah, I don't think traffic has added too much to my trip except maybe once or twice. Train is usually easiest if you're committed to getting into the CBD, but tram has more opprtunity to get off early and catch some connecting services to inner-inner-suburbs, so it can be the best option a lot of the time if you're looking to go somewhere near Carlton or something.
Have you tried to travel on The Overland? It's over $250 for an economy seat, and is slow because of the Cargo trains. Keswick Rail Terminal is not in the Adelaide CBD, nor is there a link to get you there. Only the evening bus runs direct to Adelaide. The morning one goes via Bendigo and Donald to Horsham.
1:26 When I was in box hill once, I didn’t know it was bus only but I was like 20cm away from going into it then realised that it was bus only. I thought it was a car park!😅☠️
Enjoyable video once again. Well done. Are there enough stations in Melbourne like this to make this a series? 🤔 I take the 903 part of the way to my work. Considering how long the route is it is surprisingly reliable, especially in the morning.
I agree, I take the 903 from Coburg every day to get between school and work, and when going to my mums house I sometimes take it a nearly 2 hour journey from coburg to box hill. Very reliable in the morning, at most a few minutes off, but after my work at 9:30-10:30 much less reliable
Box Hill Central is a complete disaster as a transport interchange. It was built blatantly as a shopping centre, taking over railway land. Buses and trains are separated by two levels, pushing through congested retail zones, and via a narrow and slow escalator. There are bus routes which avoid it, notably the direct routes to Melbourne Airport, and all rail-replacement buses. The railway zone was built with the wrong layout, making interchange between express and stopping trains awkward: works towards the city, but fails doubly from the city. Not only a platform change, but the timetable lets an express overtake a stopper at last minute, so people changing have to wait for the next. Skipping East Richmond is useless: the validity expired over 40 years ago.
Actually the frequency at the station is once every 15-20 minutes on Sundays and is only once every 10 minutes on Saturdays and most public holidays. The fastest express trains than run express between Richmond and Box Hill can get between the two stations in only 15-18 minutes.
@@QazzyTransport Must of more recently changed the timetable for Sundays as it was every 15 minutes earlier this year on Sundays based on my experiences on the line! :)
I wouldn't call Box Hill a 'cultural centre'. I lived there 10 years. I hate it now, it's a craphole. People don;t really tend to flock to it, The shopping centre is awful and the station run down, especially the bus interchange, though they have painted it, so it looks a little better, but it's a pretty cold, desolate place in winter. There is a lift, but it is at the other end of the shopping centre and you have to struggle through the crowded food court to get to it Re the bus interchange, did you know there are actually 2 ramps that the buses use? One in Carrington St (to the south, though the ramps turns as it comes up) and the other in Station St to the east. Did you also realise that there is one bus bay out of use? I think they did that as there is a bingo centre (and the only lift access to the bus interchange) across from it and having a bus parked there made it dangerous to cross. Great video though, I really enjoyed it.
In Queensland, next to the dinosaur museum near south Brisbane railway station we have our own bus stop called cultural centre which is one of the most used bus stops in QLD
@@74_pelicanswell it just isn’t. I should know, I’m one of the drivers. Average run rostered is 3.5 hrs in service, and will only get us either Mordi to Sunshine change over point or vice versa or Altona to Keys Rd, Hearherton. Only runs I can do end to end and back to the changeover is on weekend mornings. Not even the 4:57 ex Mordi on weekdays is 3 hrs. It gets to Altona at 8:37.
Train is fastest Especially during peak periods Only stopping at camberwell / glenferrie and richmond. If you catch the 109 tram you may encounter the famous tram driver Bruce Whalley (bombers supporter) Bruce is without doubt the funniest tram driver in the world
109 is the best option. You never know what types of people you will encounter especially in Richmond. The song is on point accuracy and you can say I was on the 109
Bus = Least Busy
Tram = Most Interesting
Train = Fastest
Bus train and tram all cost the same
Bus = "we like to roll over"
Tram = On the 109!
Train = "eNjOy BrEaKiNg YoUr BaCk On OuR x'TrApOlIs FlEeT"
there's actually 2 songs about the 109 tram route. 1 about people sniffing glue and the other seems more positive
This is a great example of a resilient network. Sure it's faster to take the train, but trams and busses are a great alternative during disruptions, and they also travel to different intermediate destinations. More Melbourne stations should be like Box Hill
"Almost all trains will not stop at East Richmond" ...... one of Melbourne's ongoing truisms. I think the station is only still standing so the operator can claim a route is semi-express by not stopping at one station.
Sunbury trains stop all stations except south kensington
glen waverly line does top at east richmond
The Glen Waverley line stops all day at East Richmond. This provides a good connection to the 78.
I frequently travel to the city from box hill. A neat little fact: some peak weekday services travel express from box hill - Richmond, which takes only 20 minutes.
Box hill is probably also the most disgusting station on the network.
I remember when in the 80’s platform 1 at box hill station was operational
There's a station in Wellington that's also called Box Hill, but it's nothing like the busy interchange at a shopping centre. Instead, it's a tiny single-track station on a sharp curve and the Johnsonville Line.
Found this video very interesting as a Sydneysider. I heard Box Hill is in contention to become Melbourne's 2nd CBD so all these transport options would definitely work in its favour!
Lived around Box Hill for about half a decade. I can easily guess that it’s going to be the train. The tram is fun to take though.
Interesting to learn that chaddy bus interchange is bigger than box hill- I feel like the different layouts make it seem the other way around to me
A good example of a scenario where the bus is worth it is when buses are replacing trains between Box Hill and the city for major works on the line as in that case the train replacement buses may be slower than the 902 bus if the train replacement buses don’t use the freeway on their route.
Express train is about 25 minutes (Flinders st to Box hill)
Bit of fun. I can say from personal experience, the 109 is not too terribly impacted by traffic unless it's really, really peak level driving. Funnily this probably is partly due to just how many stops it has to make anyway. But yeah, I don't think traffic has added too much to my trip except maybe once or twice. Train is usually easiest if you're committed to getting into the CBD, but tram has more opprtunity to get off early and catch some connecting services to inner-inner-suburbs, so it can be the best option a lot of the time if you're looking to go somewhere near Carlton or something.
I found this video quite interesting. Would love to see more places in the future.
You should go from Melbourne to Adelaide on trains and buses and compare it to flying
Have you tried to travel on The Overland? It's over $250 for an economy seat, and is slow because of the Cargo trains. Keswick Rail Terminal is not in the Adelaide CBD, nor is there a link to get you there. Only the evening bus runs direct to Adelaide. The morning one goes via Bendigo and Donald to Horsham.
I was having to get from near Werribee to Box Hill and back every day on the train. Any train delays are a pain.
Sometimes when it’s an A class tram you may not even be able to get on the tram as those trams are often full.
Camberwell is also where you change for the Alamein line.
nice video! love ur vids so much, thx for posting another one
1:26 When I was in box hill once, I didn’t know it was bus only but I was like 20cm away from going into it then realised that it was bus only. I thought it was a car park!😅☠️
If this was a Sportsbet thing, I'd have my money on the train, because it doesn't have to put up with traffic conditions.
The 302 Box Hill to City now uses Bay 5 at Box Hill!
Theres a special express train, from belgrave/lilydale, stops all stations to union (one after box hill), then runs express to richmond
Enjoyable video once again. Well done. Are there enough stations in Melbourne like this to make this a series? 🤔 I take the 903 part of the way to my work. Considering how long the route is it is surprisingly reliable, especially in the morning.
not sure... I'll see how this video does and if it's popular I'll be sure to make more
I agree, I take the 903 from Coburg every day to get between school and work, and when going to my mums house I sometimes take it a nearly 2 hour journey from coburg to box hill. Very reliable in the morning, at most a few minutes off, but after my work at 9:30-10:30 much less reliable
Great video. Loved it. Thank you 😊
excellent vid bestie!!!!!
Box Hill Central is a complete disaster as a transport interchange. It was built blatantly as a shopping centre, taking over railway land.
Buses and trains are separated by two levels, pushing through congested retail zones, and via a narrow and slow escalator.
There are bus routes which avoid it, notably the direct routes to Melbourne Airport, and all rail-replacement buses.
The railway zone was built with the wrong layout, making interchange between express and stopping trains awkward: works towards the city, but fails doubly from the city. Not only a platform change, but the timetable lets an express overtake a stopper at last minute, so people changing have to wait for the next.
Skipping East Richmond is useless: the validity expired over 40 years ago.
Quite the interesting video, Qazzy. 👍🏻
Wow the speed of the bus and tram were abysmal!
Great video
One benefit of buses over trams is for people like me in a wheelchair. Not many trams stops are accessible for wheelchairs
Actually the frequency at the station is once every 15-20 minutes on Sundays and is only once every 10 minutes on Saturdays and most public holidays.
The fastest express trains than run express between Richmond and Box Hill can get between the two stations in only 15-18 minutes.
It's 10 minutes on Sundays - I've been there on Sunday
@@QazzyTransport
Must of more recently changed the timetable for Sundays as it was every 15 minutes earlier this year on Sundays based on my experiences on the line! :)
I sometimes take the tram or bus, because you're forced to pay for the train.
Ticket inspectors mate
very rare on trams and buses
@@m31tdown come to perth and its a huge difference the presence of "Revenue Protection"
Chad-stone ?
Nothing wrong with that.
@@74_pelicansyes there is
Chaddy.
@@74_pelicans Tell me you're not from Melbourne without telling me you're not from Melbourne
I only like taking Train and Tram. Lot's of time i take tram is from Saint Kilda Road to Flinders Street Station.
Nothing much has changed in the 40 yrs that i have not lived there .
I think the trains wins because if there run express towards the city you be there in less than 1 hour
Wouldn't Southern Cross be the biggest bus terminal in Melbourne?
coach routes don't come that frequently
Castlemaine-Maryborough is actually a better route for Ballarat-Bendigo instead of Eaglehawk-Inglewood
depends if its peak hour and are you going beyond hoddle st other then that train wins
I wouldn't call Box Hill a 'cultural centre'. I lived there 10 years. I hate it now, it's a craphole. People don;t really tend to flock to it, The shopping centre is awful and the station run down, especially the bus interchange, though they have painted it, so it looks a little better, but it's a pretty cold, desolate place in winter. There is a lift, but it is at the other end of the shopping centre and you have to struggle through the crowded food court to get to it
Re the bus interchange, did you know there are actually 2 ramps that the buses use? One in Carrington St (to the south, though the ramps turns as it comes up) and the other in Station St to the east. Did you also realise that there is one bus bay out of use? I think they did that as there is a bingo centre (and the only lift access to the bus interchange) across from it and having a bus parked there made it dangerous to cross.
Great video though, I really enjoyed it.
What's the difference between there and Hurstville
In Queensland, next to the dinosaur museum near south Brisbane railway station we have our own bus stop called cultural centre which is one of the most used bus stops in QLD
thank you for a super vid 🛤🛣🛤🦘🦘🦘🦘
I’ve never heard a Melbournian pronounce the ‘Stone’ in Chadstone tbh haha
tbh i never go there and no one i know actually does
RAHH GREENSBOROUGH MENTIONED!! WTF IS A SAFE SUBURB
Heya Qazzy, Great video! I just wanted to ask how can i get my role as route 96 in the discord server? Since thats my route!
check the channel and roles tab
@@QazzyTransport yep thanks mate
Gonna stop ya there about 903. The average time end to end is 4 hours. 3 is only achievable early morning or late at night on weekends.
Only a few peak hour are timetabled longer. It's 3 hours mate.
@@74_pelicanswell it just isn’t. I should know, I’m one of the drivers. Average run rostered is 3.5 hrs in service, and will only get us either Mordi to Sunshine change over point or vice versa or Altona to Keys Rd, Hearherton. Only runs I can do end to end and back to the changeover is on weekend mornings. Not even the 4:57 ex Mordi on weekdays is 3 hrs. It gets to Altona at 8:37.
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Train is fastest
Especially during peak periods
Only stopping at camberwell / glenferrie and richmond.
If you catch the 109 tram you may encounter the famous tram driver Bruce Whalley (bombers supporter)
Bruce is without doubt the funniest tram driver in the world
Ok that sounds legendary 😂
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