Every Type Of Public Transport In Melbourne (you'd be surprised)
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instead of flexiride, they might aswell use those busses to just increase frequency, providing a more reliable service on existing routes
They are tiny low capacity busses that only seat like 15 people
The idea of flexiride is to offer a connection with the bus routes/shops etc in areas normal buses are too big to fit in, and too short a trip a taxi would accept.
@revilok that'd completely defeat purpose. Since it gives a PT way to get to/from a more major bus route to/from a location where some form of PT is needed but population density is too low or too sparse to warrant a regular timetable service.
Those locations listed have very few PT bus routes in them & 3 (at least has on 1 PT bus route service; & 1 has none as only bus runs along the highway.
I can think of several places in 4 of those localities listed where it's 15-20 min drive to a main something in or near the town, & that'd be 1 hour 10 mins walk.
For instance the only PT bus through Rosebud runs along Point Nepean Rd (Nepean Hwy), & a bus to Arthurs Seat (even just base, if won't go up) so the Rosebud would be great (assuming it will go from Rosebud to Dromana).
Or I could get the regular bus to a main Rosebud stop, then get FlexiRide to my friends' place which would be 12 mins drive/45 mins walk (I like walking, so prob do that anyway but good to know there IS Now an option that didn't exist before.
Am also going to check where the Woodend Flexiride will go, as again there's hardly any PT other than along the main highway through it, plus there's zero PT services from Macedon to Mount Macedon, and have to pre-book any taxis, so if they add a Flexi-ride for there it'd be great (if current Woodend Flexi-ride doesn't go Woodend to Mt Macedon, along the back main road)
WESTGATE PUNT MENTIONED🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
West side is best side
The punt is fantastic. Even worth going on just for a short trip to get up close to some of the passing container ships to see how big they really are.
I was a regular user for a couple of years and the culture of the Punt riders was amazing, the drivers were all real personalities, and the experience was always unique.
One of the trips, we ran out of petrol in the middle of the river and the skipper told us this was why the punt ran two fuel tanks while he swapped it all over.
Surprising to see the V-line trains in Melbourne. In QLD we don't really have a proper regional transport network - QLD rail regional trains are infrequent and slow. The government funds private coach companies (Greyhound and Murray's) to run regional bus services, but timetables don't align with each other.
I'd not heard of flexiride before, and after watching the rest of the video I can see why.
Most of us probably don’t live in the areas they operate
Great video. I had no idea about the Westgate Punt, and I wouldn’t mind taking it one day.
The Skybus has single level buses on the peninsula service between the airport and Frankston.
Not sure why so many people use the Sky Bus. Once in town, I change trains for the one to Broadmeadows station and get the 901 bus. It's essentially free because the Myki fare allows 2 hours of travel, which you already activated for reaching town by train. While it's about 30 minutes longer to reach the airport than Sky Bus, you save $25 and, realistically, most people aren't rushing to the airport anyway, so leave home a bit earlier. On Sundays, allow an extra hour due to reduced services.
Skybus don’t just use double deckers. They also use single deckers on the Frankston route as I see them travelling via through St Kilda.
Flexiride replaced the far more useful Telebus, which operated since the 1980s. The Telebus was more like a regular bus service, which did a route through an area, with stops and a timetable. The timetable for each stop wasn't a "set" time, but more like a 10 minute window, so you did have to ensure that you were there early, although in later years there was an app so you could see where the bus was.
For $1 extra, you could arrange a pickup or set down within the area. As the "tele" part suggests, you arranged this by phone, and they gave you (again) a 10min window.
Obviously the phone system couldn't scale forever. What Flexiride SHOULD have been is "Telebus with an app instead of a phone call". But what it ended up as was a mess.
"The Melbourne Railway network is fully electrified"
Stony point line: am I joke to you?
stony point line is in fact a joke to me
Same
flexiride mentioned ✊
Bro flexiride sounds like the worst idea of all time.
Flexiride seems like side step, rather than a step up from regular busses. It also looks like the first thing that would be gotten rid of if/when automated drivers come along. I can see the thinking for low usage routes it’s probably more efficient than running those routes empty.
I Think Trains Are The Best Type Of Transport To Travel Long Distance From A To B.
Ranking Transport From My Favourite To Least Favourite
1. Metro Trains
2. Trams
3. Sky Bus And Buses
4. V/Line (I Don’t Use It Very Often)
5. Ferries
6. FlexiRide
Glad to see the williamstown to port melb/st kilda ferry mentioned, but theres also another ferry not overseen by ptv: the williamstown to southbank ferry
huh never heard of that one
@@QazzyTransport It's not "public" transport. while acquacactus did say "ferry not overseen by ptv" so private run, not all that relevant to your video & re Public Transport , & if it's the one that departs from outside Southgate SC/near St Kilda Rd it's $35 one way. There's a few operations doing Williamstown to Southbank, including a hop-on hop-off multi times but none at anywhere near comparable to PT fares. So ain't a 'Public Transport' fare, nor service.
Aquacactus' comment would be like mentioning ferry service from Sorrento to Queenscliff, re the topic of 'Public Transport' $17 one way for on-foot persons.
I would never think of that as 'Public Transport' as major business is vehicle transport - $79 one-way for cars, fare includes driver only, not passengers.
Although as fare was comparable to PT fares prior to $10 PT cap is/was good alternative fare wise. (if at or or near Sorrento, or Queenscliff, that is).
(As 2 hrs 50 mins on PT Melb-Sorrento, but 2 hrs 20 min to Queenscliff, I'll go to Queenscliff as bus from Geelong is only 20 mins, & nice VLines to Geelong.
Instead of 90 mins bus journey as well as 1 hour train trip on Metro).
(I did see some great add-on package deals tho, lunch destination or high tea on the boat for not too much more than the included return journey fare).
So it is really a tourist, & specialist service boat tho, than public transport.
I would (almost) equate the Docklands to Port Arlington & to Geelong ferry to Public Transport as before the $10 Statewide cap it was close to same price for return journey as for on weekdays on Vline, and can buy a ticket at ticket office almost next to it at Docklands & board (unless booked out, but usually always some spots available)
@@QazzyTransport By the way, there are two more & not that well known, tho nearly always full of passengers when they run. However, one run by Yarra Parks/Melbourne Water (free & hop-on hop-off but summer only) hasn't come back into service since March 2020. The other runs a very short distance, was $2 but free, now, and runs daylight saving months only & goes to a place not many people in Melb know of. (tho, often the boat fills, & have to wait for it to go, & comeback, to get on it, so are quite a number who know of this place.
I won't say where, as you like exploring, & finding out things yourself is more exciting than being told. But someone will likely comment what it is anyway.
Well Flexi-Ride is slightly better than an uber since ubers cancel on people too
Think Flexi-Ride might be better when more people know about it, since not many PT regular users do (yet), and most people haven't heard of it.
@aquacactus Do you know exactly which berth (outside which building) it goes from? As all ferries run a long The Yarra are somewhat pricey, & there's (at least) 3 companies running Yarra River (Southbank area) to Williamstown/vice versa/ & returns. With one that leaves from near Southgate Shopping Centre/St Kilda Rd being $35 one way.
There's also a private operated Yarra River hop on hop off that then goes to Willy after last stop at near (west of) Spencer St, but that's even more $ cost.
And I don't know of any cheaper, tho can save a bit by pre-booking, but then if need to pre-book not really 'Public Transport'. Even with V-Line to very outer regional can buy paper ticket just before you get on; & can use myki to/at mid regional stations
Skybus is awesome. And cost $18 on way to the airport from Southern Cross. Only other way is a taxi at around $50
I guess the bus routes are hard with everything looking like the town planners were on acid.
Bus routes service all the suburban areas so that you can get from your house to the station, or to the tramstop. That's why they're so random.
Living in Bendigo and only visiting once or twice a month, I am notice that nobody pays on the trams. On the 96 along the entire route both ways, I was the only one who touched on and off.
People not touching on is definitely a problem, but you don't actually have to touch off on trams unless you are travelling solely in zone 2, at the far reaches of the longer lines
@@aquacactuscheeseburger they don't touch on.
Too expensive. If you go a few stops, it's $5. Meanwhile, take a V Line Melbourne to Geelong, it's also $5. It's the most ridiculous and inequitable ticket pricing system in the world.
that little punt under west gate sounds fun.
It is SO GREAT. It takes about 5 mins to cross but is just lovely.
A Qazzy video and a Taitset one! Now that’s timing.
Great video @Qazzy Transport. As a non-Victorian resident it was very informative. Love to try the punt one day just for fun, but not on the weekends 😁
Another really enjoyable vid, well done mate! Really cool to hear about two things I'd never heard of, even though I live in Melbourne, Flexiride and the punt! I reckon the punt looks like a cool thing to do on a lazy weekend when the weather's good. The flexiride buses are quite interesting, never seen them before. Pretty sure they could be put to better use!! Keep up the interesting content!!
As someone who lives in Sydney ferries are very fun, but they are expensive, slow and are for the most part, a tourist trap with the exemption of a few areas that don't have train lines and shitty buses
And if u say that u commute on ferries, you're lying or just rich
As a tourist I took the ferry from Parramatta to Darling Harbour (Sydney CBD) once years ago just for the novelty. It was fun despite Parramatta River not being particularly interesting. Also took the Manly ferry on a different day. I think it took about 30 minutes? I imagine it would be a much longer trip by train and bus.
@zoomosis bus is the same time as the ferry but there is no trains to manly cause nimbyism and bradfileds plan not being fully built
As someone who also lives in Sydney, the ferries aren't that expensive for what they are and are subject to the same daily/weekly caps as the rest of the opal network which makes them a pretty viable option for commuting, so calling it a tourist trap is just disingenuous. I personally take the ferry any time I'm near the harbour as it's an amazing way to relax and take in the beautiful scenery.
I used skybus a few times, but if I'm traveling with my partner it isn't even that much cheaper than an uber or taxi while being way more difficult, particularly with luggage.
so sad because skybus has a really convenient route for me to get from home to uni, itd be great if they accepted myki and werent so expensive
Good video Qazzy, i enjoy each new upload of yours.
Those small buses (as my partner and I have discussed) should be pulled off and run on more lightly patronaged routes or even country routes between country towns (say Ballarat - Daylesford- Kyneton railway station) where numbers (patronage ) do not make sense instead of running huge empty buses.
another fire vid quazzy💪🏾
Thanks for lettign us know! :)
flexiride seems great, if those smaller buses could have a few more stops it reliably goes to, like a soft bus line, it could be used for larger groups along it to get together without having to walk as much
in general, making the pickup/drop off zone more linear and increasing frequency could make it significantly better than the bigger buses that can only travel on roads/take intersections that fit them
you could even do hook shapes or other kinds of lines as long as the deviations still smoothly connect to the route, a sort of distributed bus line
Thanks for the interesting video.
I am glad you have something to be passionate about
Nice video 🎉
There's scheduled coaches you can get in Melbourne, the Lara night coach serves Tarneit and Wyndham Vale
There is one way to catch a V/Line coach within Melbourne: the night network coaches between Southern Cross and the western suburbs
koo wee rup and lang lang have v/line coaches without directional boarding restrictions while being part of Cardinia shire therefore metropolitan
@@cragle1114but those are hardly suburbs. Lang Lang specially.
sydney is trying something similar to flexiride, called on demand public transport. idk if it's any better
sunbury mentioned rahhhh
I'm a regular V/Line coach Yarram/Leongatha line.
It gets the job done.
i love your ralsei pfp
I didn’t know Melbourne has ferry there only have one searoard Ferris there should expand more there tram lines and new tram and trains lines and route in the future
Why. We only have a river and almost everywhere along that river, which twists and turns like a snake, has a train line or tram line much closer. Same with Port Phillip Bay - by the time a ferry went down the Yarra and out your train would be there.
There really isn't enough demand for ferries. They're slower, and our train and tram connections are more efficient. While water transport is kinda cool and romantic, it just isn't economically effective.
So pleased you mentioned the punt!. It's great for cyclists.
flexiride throughout the whole of the metropol areas as a poor person would actually be goated.
@bionic I assume the "goat" is meaning Greatest Of All Time. (65% people don't know that acronym). There's already bus services that cater for less needed PT services, but something is warranted. These are one-way bus loops, that often run along very residential very suburban streets between the main roads.
So many people don''t know of them. I know of 5 of these routes in the Doncaster Templestowe Shire (with 2 with terminus at Shoppingtown (Westfield) & 2 with terminus at Pines Shopping Centre Doncaster North.
As it appears, from Qazzy's video might need to know where those one-way loop runs are, since appears a Flexiride ride bus may may not service along the routes I'm referring to. But yeh, I could think of many more mid-outer suburban areas, & a few inner suburban areas (particularly east-west/west to east travel) where it'd be very useful. Including on Sundays since nearest east-west bus to me doesn't run Sundays
@@CBM_Walks i'm a student and i use PT to get to school. i've been forced out of the normal route and am made to use the 901. a FlexiRide that would take me to where i need to be for school would be perfect. until i have a car. i also have the Travel pass so it would be Almost a FREE TAXI
@@bionicseaserpent just wondering why you "been forced out of the normal route".
If "forced out" relates to a human matter re you don't require reply. But if it's due to the bus service run by private company being "forced out" is still strange way to phrase it
(901, 902, 903 are privately run too but that company operates under contract to gov't
Of course if you stay on the 901, after school & depending which was is home, can get to Melbourne Airport (just 350 m from Terminal 4 :), or to Frankston :)instead
@@CBM_Walks Keon park is down
Awesome Video You Forgot To Mentioned Taxis. Taxis Are Melbourne Transport As Well.
taxis are not public transport
@@QazzyTransport Never Heard Of A Flexiride Before A Taxi 🚖 Type Bus 🚌
That FlexiRide service is whack!
What sucks is that the train system is barley used, most people drive
Yo when i use the flexi ride in Mooroolbark its works fine most of the time
Every type of public transport in queensland
Train: obviously
Long distance trains: obviously
Bus: obviously
Coach: XPT alternative
Ferry: obviously
Tram: Gold Coast only removed from Brisbane in the 1960’s
I think the only ones you missed are taxis and the French Island/Phillip Island ferry. Both privately-run, but still public transport. :)
ehhh i wouldn't really count taxis as public transport. Flexiride is only here because it's endorsed by ptv. Phillip Island is not a suburb of Melbourne.
its the cyan coloured triangle on the stony point line timetable
Would SRL or Metro Tunnel add a separate mode of public transport (metro) or would it not count as it's essentially another form of rail transport?
srl yes, metro tunnel no
What a waste of those mini buses
Searoad Ferries have left the chat....
Nowhere near Melbourne though.
@@hmoffatt mentions vline services & not this.....
Flexiride is just a New Name for TeleBus
it's a different thing, there are no fixed routes
@@QazzyTransport I thought that was what Telebus was
according to little info i can find, it had fixed routes
@@QazzyTransport I took the Telebus for about 15 years on and off. It didn't exactly have fixed routes, but it did have fixed stops. The "timetable" had the proviso that the "time" for each stop was more like a 10 minute window. For $1 extra, you could be picked up or dropped off anywhere within the service area, because the "route" would always go somewhere near where you wanted to go.
For a drop off, you'd just tell the driver. For a pick up, you'd have to call ahead (hence "tele") and, again, you'd get a time window based on the loop route.
For my money, this was a far superior system. Flexiride should have been Telebus only with an app instead of phone calls.
holy shit 675 mentioned HAHA
so true girlblogger
Malvern has 10mins between trains all week
Two lines run through Malvern all week.
I am surprised that you don't have rental bikes like Amsterdam, Glasgow, London and Bendigo
not public transport
@@QazzyTransport and they all ended up in the yarra. O-Bikes
we do, we have e-bikes and e-scooters
You said all trains are fully electrified, But the stony point line isn't. I not calling you wrong, you are mostly right
stony point doesnt really count
Great video mate - unfortunetly there are quite a few errors in your info throughout the video, but good video nonetheless
Like what?
do you live on the craigieburn line?
no
Flexiride is a lot worse than I realised. Since when is it only when theres no other routes? Also pakenham is pickup/set down only
pakenham is not pick up set down only
@@QazzyTransport it is, on the v/line website in the journey planner if you put in dandenong to pakenham it says no services available and the PIDs at pakenham say not taking suburban passengers. Only sunbury is not pickup/set down only
mustve been a recent change and when i went a few months ago it wasnt this way
@@QazzyTransport yeah its only been done within a year, the first time I went past it wasnt but every time since then its been no suburban passengers
just checked the vline website it says you can in fact take trips from dandenong to pakenham
koo wee rup and lang lang have v/line coaches without directional boarding restrictions while being part of Cardinia shire therefore metropolitan
Lang Lang and Koo Wee Rup are not metro suburbs. They are country towns no matter what Shire they belong to.
Sorry to mention this but, the stony point sprinter is still diesel so not all lines are a electrification line...
stony point doesnt really count though
@@QazzyTransportit’s still part of metro though… 😅
The melborne metro is not entirely Electrified, look at stony point line, no overhead wires, Sprinters run on the line...
um ackshully the stony point line
Flexiride is the worst ! ❤
forgot to mention smart bus
its just buses but more frequent
Wasn't "flexiride" called "Tellebus" before 2021? I remember telebus since the 1990s. I thought they just changed the name. The route areas were practically the same.
I always wished we lived in one of the areas.
it's different
@@QazzyTransport is it? Thanks.
I didn't know that. Unfortunately we don't live in the Telebus/Flexiride areas
Cool video not from Melbourne is there any way to use public transportation to / from Melbourne tel airport using myki a little walking fine like getting of Sydney trainz a stop before the airport to avoid airport fairs and walking
you can take a bus to broadmeadows and take a train from there
There's the 901 bus from Melbourne Airport to Broadmeadows station. The 901 actually goes to Frankston but it's an orbital route. If you're headed in that direction it's quicker to get the train from Broadmeadows to Flinders Street (or Southern Cross) then another to Frankston.
There is also a bus that goes to Airport West where you can catch a tram to the city - but it's not very regular and it takes a long time...
901 bus from Frankston goes to Melbourne Airport on a myki fare but leave yourself plenty of time because it has stops all throughout Melbourne and takes 4 hours. I’ve never used it. Caught Skybus several times before COVID, cost was $36 one way from Frankston. My cousin used to catch a ferry Southbank to Williamstown, not sure if it’s still running
>buses aren't frequent
Well, if you deep down the route lists you can find there's heck lot of routes provide at least 5-15 minutes per ride in peak hours for the large suburbs, and shuttle routes like university shuttle could make up to 3 minutes, but for outer suburbs, you're right, buses sucks, but pls don't nitpicking as some with crappy service aren't at peak hour at all
most routes dont offer services that frequent
@@QazzyTransport again, depends on suburbs.
Denser inner/middle suburbs could mostly got more frequencies than wide but sparced outer suburbs.
outer suburbs used to have more routes than inner/middle suburbs due to their size and the community-serve purpose on fillings up the gaps in suburban streets for specific people, even the route isn't that attractive and everyone still being car/bike-dependent when it's already existed for long time with no complaints from city council.
so it's reasonable to see 'most' routes aren't frequent, and you might have to thanks to the urban structure in Melbourne isn't totally being Asian/European mega cities' fashion
but one important thing is, an infrequent service might still serves its purpose well, but not on your side 😊
What about taxis and ubers and scooters?
not public transport
holy shit ralsei from deltarune
ok
17 lines*
Why the buses so bad 😅
Not the best system if we are being honest.