She was Warned: DON'T UPSET THE PHOTOGRAPHER
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Tyra telling on herself. In the real world a photographer wouldn't do that but on this show that's exactly what they do. If a model sasses back to them, they purposely choose a bad photo to punish them and say it was a bad model, not a bad photographer.
Exactly
I was thinking the exact same thing
The whole show is designed to fault the model all the time. I doubt of the thousands of pictures they take there is not at least one good photograph.
It depends on the photographer. While they have no proof, when they get a bad picture, some models believe the photographer or director doesn't like. You're right, they shouldn't do that, but some do.
@@bngr_bngr Exactly, so many times Jessica shows wonderful poses that the model gave. But the pictures selected by the ANTM people, is horrible. I wonder how much Tyra was really involved. Her wording makes it seem like it's the first time she's seeing the pictures.
I have never once in my life seen a bad photo in a mag and thought "wow, that is a bad model" Tyra never fails to amaze
Literally. There’s been times where I thought there was poor editing but I’ve never looked at a model in a magazine and thought “wow what a crap model”
That’s a funny thing to even think. I can’t imagine looking at a magazine and saying “wow that model is so bad at her job” 😂
Right! I just think that's a bad pic
I usually think, "this is the picture the magazine chose? I'm sure they had better?"
Most of us just... Y'know, move on?
This is truly awful. Alexandria literally bounced with excitement onto the set. She was excited to work with the camel, she seemed happy to be there and confident. Then they shot her down before she was even in front of the camera. She couldn’t win.
It was so sad! She had the best attitude & did beautiful poses.
ANTM producers & judges are so thirsty for drama it's sad .
@@foxandbearbrothers6405 so true
That's exactly why they shot her down. They are just a bunch of frustated toxic people, with too much power in their hands.
And she hugged kasia to not get hugged back ..:/
Models in previous cycles: I didn't want to step on the toes of the photographer.
Tyra: It's your job to speak up for yourself and advocate for you. If the photos turn out bad, it reflects poorly on you.
Alexandria: I was communicating with the photographer to try to get the best shot.
Tyra: That's not your job. You're bossy and trying to control everything.
That's confusing & hypocrite.
@@visualbeauty3427 - ANTM was all about mixed signals to fit their narrative, sadly.
@@danakscully64 i know sadly
They did this to April in cycle 2! April and Mercedes were posing together and trying to find what was comfortable for them, because they were posing naked together and it's their bodies and they should feel comfortable to have a shot that's not awkward, but they were saying April was trying to control everything and Mr. Jay was crying about "why am I even here" (which I'm sure we all ask every episode he's there)
@@shortytori9119 i was so surprised when he got mad at that, like of all things he should be happy his models are comfortable communicating with the other person in the shoot?!?
Is it only me who wants to see Jessica react to every single ANTM episode??
I hope she keeps em coming, I love her takes. Plus her awkward humor is so endearing.
It's not just you!
No it’s all of us!!!
Right, I can never get enough of these. Her takes are so on point.
Well there were tons of photoshoots beside make overs like Brad did, so we have more of her for a while, unless she doesn't wanna do it anymore lol
Alexandria was treated awfully. Watching these back she really couldn't do anything without being attacked or called fake. I can't imagine the toll that would start to take on your mental health. Hope she's doing better now because she certainly deserved better back then.
She was mean to people in the house, just they didn't care 'til they were just few girls, remember antm usually picked a girl for narrative
I watched it back and she was actually so nice, so the girls picked on her for no reason. Editing really does change your perspective because the first time I saw this season I had a really negative opinion of Alexandria, but it was definitely not her fault.
@@imjoesan she wasn’t mean more like a strict housemother. Monique on the other hand, that’s what you call mean
@@imjoesan You know right that the girls wrongfully jumped on her for the chicken in the fridge that was actually belong to Molly?
Too bad Lisa sabotaged the chat Alexandria was supposed to have with Oliver Twixt. I would've loved to hear her talk about everything, by the looks of it she was so misunderstood and treated so unfairly.
As a Brit, I can confirm that we know what baseball is and the phrase -“hit it out the park” just means I’m going to smash it - the photographer seemed very arrogant and used what the director said which is super unprofessional to form a judgement which he clearly showed when he spoke to her. Everything she said he snapped back at her for
I think he was gobsmacked by her use of American slang-which is stupid cos BRITS USE SLANG ALL THE DAMN TIME? Like? Everyday?Like he sounds classist-thinking her use of the phrase made her lesser somehow.
I'm a Brit too and I think this guy came across as a complete pr*ck. The sort of arrogant t*spot who would wear a tweed cap in the desert.
It's ridiculous how hard they tried to create the storyline of Alexandria being "rebellious" or whatever. In fact, it's pretty clear in this episode how the photographer and Jay are basically ganging up on her to be able to film that storyline and even then it's just not working. They're the ones that come across as difficult.
And Mr. J pretended on all of his interviews that he was this saint who never participated on the bullshit that happened behind the cameras.
Alexandria: I'm excited and want to do well
photographer: you're a control freak and I hate you
The name of photographer is Michael Woolley.
@@visualbeauty3427 What a c*nt. I feel so bad for Alexandria. Poor girl can't win, she literally did nothing wrong.
@@abcdefg2174 Brittany & Alexandria are the strongest imo, cuz sometimes in general clients are so different everyone has their own opinion good or bad, i'm not a high fashion model, in reality everyone has their own opinion/ critique just like us humans/ any clients if the model is good for the brands, magazine, commercial, editorial high fashion shoot depends on them but i agree you sadly.
Also Jay 100% set her up. They talk about it is how she is perceived and the only reason the photographer had a bad impression was because of what Jay was whispering in his ear
I don't even think the photographer said that. I suspect that Tyra took whatever he did say and embellished.
There's nooooo way I'd give a client a bad photo just because I'm bothered by a model. I want the world to see my best work, not Junior High pettiness.
Junior high pettiness 😂 I love that. Those are perfect words to describe this show.
Omg Lolol. Not even high school pettiness
Well said 😂
Agreed
Pre school pettiness 😂😂
"THiS iSN'T BaSeBaLL." He *has* to be intentionally being difficult. You don't have to be playing baseball for the expression "Hit it out of the park" to make sense.
As a camel myself I appreciated when you stood up for us. We get a pretty bad rap but we're just misunderstood.
Here here
I bet the camel was exhausted, all that up and down with every person. I'd be irritable.
Kasia is so beautiful. I really loved her photo - I don't mind her "angry" look on her face. The desert isn't 'romantic'...it tries to kill you so the 'angry' face actually makes the photo perfect.
Thank you! She doesn’t like “angry” she looks determined! She’s telling a story while managing to also look absolutely stunning
I agree! That “angry” face was perfect. It looked to me like she was taking this seriously. Which, if you were in the middle of the desert and in charge of keeping people alive….you should take that seriously. She had the best photo imo and it told a story. The others had good poses, but she told a story
Exactly! And I thought it was hilarious when they said her photo lacked energy and then zoomed in on her face which was exploding with such beautiful, strong, and as Tyra would say “fierce” energy(!) I don’t know how they could say that with a straight face.
"Smize" doesn't look good on every picture.
Tyra is definitely outdated.
“The desert 🏜 isn’t romantic, it tries to kill you” 💀
I think what I remember from Kasia's interviews after the show, she said they didn't have her sizing when it came to the outfits, even though they knew there will be a plus size model. That is why her outfit seems less flashy than the other ones. I think that why she seemed upset and felt insecure.
Yeah, plus their feedback wasn't very helpful.
Good old Top Model tear down/belittle/undermine the models then kick them off for not "having confidence"
@@Hawther Gordon Ramsey can tear people down. But then he tries to build them back up, if they try to improve. Also, he doesn't automatically say everyone is all crap even in the beginning. I've watched Hell's' Kitchen and MasterChef. The first episode the contestants have to make their signature dishes. Yes, he's spits out most of them. But I've seen him give complements of chefs/cooks first dishes too. I respect the criticism he gives the contestants, unlike ANTM.
@@janejones7638 Not likeTyra, Nigel, Kelly, Janice were so backstabbed.
They did that to Toccara in season 3 as well. They NEVER had anything that fit properly.
I remember not liking Alexandria when I was a teenager watching this season. I was probably around their age and thought she came off as cocky or arrogant. Now that I'm older I can see she was such a victim of editing and they clearly targeted her as a villain. I feel bad that she felt ostracized in the house. I fully feel that I would be portrayed the same way if I was on reality TV, I definitely am not all warm and fuzzy. She was shown to be more likeable in Allstars though I think
Same here. I blindly followed the narrative that they created about her.
SAME
she was quite arrogant. she was talking back to almost every professional questioning their work. i rememeber she complained and adviced a professional about cutting her hair. alexandria was so horrible and egoistic and she wasnt even aware. they smelled that off of her and went along with it. so its her fault for starting it and not having any self control.
Alexandria: says some positive comments about wanting to do a good job because she likes modeling.
The photographer: How dare you be positive around me. Please allow me to tear you down a few notches because it makes me feel powerful and better about myself.
Also, if the photographer is working for a client, 99% of the time (in my experience), someone from the clients end is at the shoot supervising. So they would know if the issue was due to the photographers model. And you’re 1000% correct, a photographer would never turn in shitty photos to try and bring down a model. They are working with the model that one day. They’re not gonna ruin their career over her. This show just DIIIGGGSSS for any drama they can find to create the narrative.
Also, even if a photographer really did that, it would be extremely unprofessional and shouldn't be accepted, much less normalized to the point of models having to watch out and being careful about it.
This is off-topic, but this avatar pic of Miss Argentina (am I right?) is amazing 💚💀
it always bugged me when they'd choose shitty photos with poor angles when we saw during the process other angles and potential photos. i hate ANTM production.
@@IsabellaQuinns I noticed that too and I think it is BRILLIANT!!
Reality TV is heavily scripted,this show was no exception
The thing about this photographer is, that he was complaining about Alexandria, but he was not giving her advice on how to pose. So if the photographer doesn't say a thing, how the hell would she supposed to know what to do? Last I checked, thelepathy was not a requirement for this show.
I’m not a photographer but I’ve been working years in marketing agencies. NOT ONCE I’ve heard of a photographer handing bad photos purposely to take revenge on the model or the marketing team receiving bad photos for whatever reason and the client blaming the model 😂🤡, not once. Wtf Tyra’s talking about....
This, this will reflect on them badly. They just wont work with the model.
So Kasia has spoken about how the producers sabotaged her by not having her clothes in her size. Also, I think she was allergic to fur so working with animals was difficult, I know when they worked with an ocelot she broke out in hives.
Whatever Tyra was saying to Kasia made 0 sense. It was like she was just placing random
words together and hoping something stuck? Also why when they cast “plus size” models that means they have to be the spokeswoman for all “plus size” models!? Just let them be themselves and stop bringing it up every 14 seconds and act like they have to be crusaders for a cause.
was looking for this exact comment smh, her body is not a "positive message" it is literally just her body damn
English is not my first language and I have never lived in an English speaking country, I know nothing about baseball and yet I understand what "Hit it out of the park" means and I understand that she ment she wanted to do a great job. Antagonizing her for that expression is beyond ridiculous.
Your written English is fantastic!!
Literally! We only have cricket in South Africa, but American media has made baseball terms very familiar for me! Has this guy been living under a rock 😅
You speak better English than most Americans that’s for sure!
If you learnt American english that makes sense haha. (Also your english is super good! Ahh!) I'm a native (non US) english speaker so I have no reason to learn or know US expressions. I also don't watch a ton of US media so I get a British person not understanding that
You're English is actually pretty good
That was Alexandria’s storyline throughout the whole season: she’s very bossy, difficult to work and can’t do no wrong. Nevertheless, in the go see challenge she did the best and booked every client.
“One thing I will not tolerate is camel slander.” I loved this tangent she went on😂😂
“Maybe she’s late to a dinner.”
It was so cute 😂😂
Alexandria’s photo, it’s stunning! She looks like she defies the desert to try and defeat her. So powerful.
Exactly, she looked so fierce. I get they were tying to go for a romantic look but I loved her angry look it was “a the desert won’t defeat me look I’ll defeat it!”
She had some of the best photos that season and they treated her like she was the worst. The judges, the other girls and even this photographer. I hated it
I agree!!!
@@megangrant2597 I don't like her personality portrayed on the show,but true,Alexandria always deliver good pictures and was consistent.
She looked like a desert warrior. Love it!
As a Brit I know exactly what hitting it out the park means. There is no 'desert' equivalent as sayings go??? The photographer is being a bit snobbish. Hopefully he regrets it now as we all do when we say things and realise it wasn't kind.
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I now see he has passed away in 2020 but his students commented he was a very gentle and humble person when it came to photographery and encouraging their talent. Makes me wonder, maybe he was encouraged to be difficult on purpose to play a role?
Even if he didn't know, which is weird- I also know what it means and my country doesn't have a single baseball field- human beings communicate in all sorts of ways, not just verbally. Her intonation alone along with the rest of the words he did comprehend made it very clear what she meant.
I‘m from Germany and baseball is not really common here but isn’t it a metaphor that almost everyone knows?
They even left evidence in at 10:05, that looks like he gave the photographer unreasonable expectations of her, he even said he should "push her" That seemed strange
@@alexbutler1071 True. I didn't notice that.
@@Ezelnami Was? Noch nie gehört 😅
I knew there was abuse on the show to an extent, but Watching your reaction videos on ANTM made me realize that saying there was abuse is an understatement. Knowing your perspective as a photographer and how the industry really works with the models compared to how they treated these poor girls for 15+ years is appalling.. Now I understand why no one seems to like Tyra anymore and why the fashion industry or the girls themselves like Winnie Harlow don't want to be associated with the show.
Looking back, Alexandria coming 4th despite of winning 2 best photos, booking all designers she went to on the go-see challenge and having a strong runway walk is unbelievable. She could've rivaled Brittany and Molly for the top 2.
Interested that she's supposedly perceived so badly but she booked every designer...
I was recently watching an interview with one of the contestants and she talked about how at panel, all girls were ask who they thought was going to win this except for that one girl who was pulled up first and asked which of the girls behind her was her biggest competition. And then they aired it as if they'd asked all the girls the same question and eliminated that girl solely for the reason that she didn't name herself. I don't know why but each time I hear something new about this show, it always shocks me just how manipulative and frankly abusive it was to these young girls.
Yes. Even those confessionals, when they heavily criticize one another are usually- if not almost always- prompted.
Someone from production would ask something to the effect of, "Tell us something you don't like about X"; do this to a handful of them and you can now splice a short video in which they all seem to be attacking X.
This is very easy to accomplish and even a nice person can be made into a villain.
I hate it. I’m afraid to check if this show has been cancelled yet. I don’t know what I’m gonna do if it’s not
@@herefortheshrimp1469 it is. VH1 brought it back as Rita ora for whatever reason as the main judge but that only lasted one cycle. So it's officially over now. At least the one in the states. Not sure about the other countries.
@@TheLovesnowangel There was a cycle after that one and they brought Tyra back. I actually loved that cycle after Rita Ora, except for the winner 😂
@@analyticalperson6648 winner who what cycle?
The photographer was so uptight about the "hit it out of the park" reference that Alexandria made. Putting aside how much/little he (being a Brit) knows about baseball, Alexandria simply meant that she wanted to do really well on the photoshoot. Maybe he was told by producers to make an uptight/snarky remark for TV.
Or his comments were taken from another moment in the day entirely and the show fabricated the whole thing?!!
@@maggiebeth5442 Xactlyyy
@@maggiebeth5442 no sorry. I’m from Britain and hit it out the park is a known phrase. If you don’t watch tv just say that
Hannah Moore his name is Michael Woolley.
@@maggiebeth5442 if you heard it 30 years ago it’s clearly well known.
Alexandria was targeted so much this season, she was one of my favourites and I felt for her so much, as someone who was excluded and bullied. I would love it if you interviewed her, like Lisa and Keenyah
I would to hear from Alexandria now. I know she had an interview scheduled with Oliver Twixt awhile ago but Lisa D’Amato intercepted and stopped it. I’m not sure what all happened there.
Alexandra was treated so poorly and made to look so evil in this season that she got booed when she came back in the Top Model All-Stars season. They had all the contestants that returned walk a runway in front of a live audience of fans, and she was the only one who got nothing but hate.
A stacked audience that Tyra and producers asked them to boo her
Tyra picks the pictures for judging. Which explains why certain girls were sent home earlier than others. It would nice to hear your perspective on the Crime scence photoshoot the contenstants did on Cycle 8 or the Cycle 22 episode where Nyle Dimarco has to pose in the DARK (without his interperter).
When Nyle had to to that and they kept going “oh you have to push through it.” HE IS DEAF.
@@carolinemarie7495 Or that almost blind girl, Amanda, in cycle 3, doing a runway show in a dark room... or later the Asperger girl... it's like health issues are only in your mind and if you really want it, they can all disappear :/
@Baked potatos AND THEN THEY BLAMED HIM FOR NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH. It made me so mad
Tbh I think that’s why they can’t use those photos in their portfolio, because then they might see they were actually set up sometimes
@@hanadoudova1421 oh the girl who had Aspergers syndrome was Heather, and i loved her to bits
The fact that they considered that model "plus sized" is ridiculous. No wonder she was self-conscious when the show literally forced a narrative on her, made it like her whole personality was being "plus sized", and basically acted like she need to be a martyr for every plus sized model out there. Ugh
Yeah it sucks but I think if your in the fashion industry they consider 6 and up plus size. Which is obviously stupid since everyone has a different body type
@@oceankuhn9785 Precious Lee is the best example plus size girl especially major runway shows Vesace etc love Precious lee 💖💖💖
That's because she IS plus sized maybe??? Duh
@@manuelashoto9891 Except she's literally not lmao
@@oceankuhn9785 funny how plus size clothes start at a size 16 but they expect a size 6 model to advertise it. I’m in between a 5 and 7 but I’m no where near fitting into plus size, I still shop in juniors even. It’s so dumb
IRT the question of whether it's safe to ride a camel: They're thousands of lbs so they can hurt people by shoving them or laying on top of them (more likely if they're not used to people), but they're honestly not particularly aggressive. If they get irritated they might resort to biting (like when Alexandria was petting her) or swinging their head. Honestly, the camels in the ep seem p chill, so I think saying they're grumpy is just playing it up for the show. Also, standing on an adult camel shouldn't hurt them, they have all that squishy fat in their humps for padding, and they can carry over a thousand lbs. I'd honestly be more worried about the model falling off and hurting themselves lol
It's true that it won't hurt them, HOWEVER a lot of camels that get used for tourists are often under 4 or 5 years old, and when camels are ridden at such a young age it can seriously effective their growth. There are also some tourists spots (luckily not in the video) where they make camels walk on the normal roads, which have dirt all over them aswell as potential painful items like glass, which will hurt the camels a lot. But as you said, the camels in the video look fine (as long as they hopefully are not under 4.5 years old)
Very true!! I was mostly focused on how the camels in the ep looked, but you're so right about young camels and making them walk on regular roads
As a photographer this is completely absurd. Never will I put my work on the line for petty sh!t. There’s a standard we all have and I can’t jeopardize that what I’ve worked so hard for.
ANTM did Kasia and Alexandria dirty! When I watched this as a teen their editing worked perfectly on me as I really disliked Alexandria. Seeing it now, they were truly disrespectful of her AND Kasia. I thought Kasia could win, but they just beat her down anytime she was confident in her "plus size" body.
Same- as a teenager I thought she was awful, now I just feel bad for the poor girl.
@Sammy They edited the show in a way to make her assertiveness seem negative, her confidence was misconstrued as arrogance, her habit of verbally confirming she understands was misconstrued to appear like she knee it all and dismissive...
Alexandria was mistreated in both the seasons she was on and it was so hard to watch. She was amazing.
Was she tho? Lol...cycle 17 maybe but 16....eh...I mean if we are going off of editing maybe she wasnt that bad but I could not stand her in 16 when it aired lol...
@@ryanb9304 I was just about to say that…… cycle 17 yea they were antagonizing her but 16 she kinda was antagonizing herself
@@ryanb9304 In what way? The only thing I can remember is that she seemed controlling when they filmed that commercial. Other than that I remember feeling that she was seriously misunderstood; for example this photoshoot she literally did nothing wrong and they're treating her like the spawn of satan.
@@abcdefg2174 3 specific incidents come to mind
1st the argument over a damn piece of chicken 🍗 where she came at Dalia all hostile
2nd was the time she flipped out over a towel 🙄 lol
The 3rd was that commercial shoot where she controlled everything played a diva, then played crazy and the victim when she got called out
I guess we cannot fully blame her since top model has made blue eyed blonde girls victims since 2003
@@ryanb9304 You're so clearly manipulated by the editing...
1. The chicken put in the fridge was Alexandria's. She put the chicken in a bowl with tin foil on the top for the sake of marinating. Dalia was the one freaking out about the chicken and make a big deal out of it, saying it's disgusting or whatnot and that's where Alexandria getting annoyed. I remember I encountered a stupid comment saying Alexandria shouldn't use a cereal bowl to do that, coz it'll make the cereal taste bad, which was clearly a comment coming a kid who's never dishwashing before.
2. She flipped out over a towel because someone took it. If you finish taking a shower and walking out without a towel on, what will happen? yeah, you're gonna be walking naked. I don't know what you're gonna feel, but I'll be pissed off as well.
3. I didn't see her trying to be a diva; I saw her trying to be helpful and productive, maybe she came across controlling but her intention wasn't like she's the boss and everyone had to listen to her. Huge difference.
I love when Jessica speaks for the animals. Looking out for the little guys!
I got goosebumps watching Molly. Everything was just right on that shoot. Alexandria is stunning. Her poses were fantastic! Hannah too.
He as a photographer should have done his job as the PHOTOGRAPHER he’s been hired. Not a therapist
It is such BS what Tyra told her a photographer would do if they get an attitude from the model. It is clear she only said it to make Alexandria feel bad for something she didn’t even do.
It seems to me if they ask her, 'you know we aren't feelin' it, what do you think YOU can do?' And she then says 'uhm maybe direct myself?' Theres no direction coming from the photographer so the model doesnt feel a connection. I always have the best photoshoots (and this is with regular people not models) when my model for the day feels EMPOWERED. I flatter them, Igivr them positive reinforcement react to everything they do that I like. collaborate with them 'hey l have an idea!' They give me feedback it is a team effort!
I used to work at a zoo that had camel rides! Camels are actually considered pack animals and riding them isn’t uncommon. One kind of good thing though is that they are notoriously short tempered animals. From what I’ve been told if they’re not being treated well camels will sometimes just straight refuse to work or move and because of their size there’s like nothing you can do so most places treat them well from my understanding.
Edit: with how tiny those models are and the saddle they’re using,m standing on the camels really shouldn’t be much strain
Camels in Morocco and notoriously used allllll day for tourists as attractions so tbh these camels are probably just sick of it and overworked, they are very chill animals who prefer, well, chilling.
Does it hurt them when you stand on them? Does it make them uncomfortable at all? I just felt bad when they were standing on the camel.
@@crossfire6081 camels have such insanely strong backs that honestly it’s probably more of a nuisance than painful
Oh! Ok, thank you so much for letting me know! I would have felt really bad for the camel if it did!
I was literally looking for this comment, tbh.
24:00 - Tyra said that Alexandria wasn't as strong as Hannah, Molly, and Brittani but she was rewarded with 2 best pictures tied with Hannah and Molly by that time in the season. It is a set up to justify her elimination the week after. They also just wanted to create a conflict and Mr. Jay at 10:05 was feeding some stuff to the photographer for him not to like her. Alexandria might not be everyone's cup of tea but this girl worked hard and deserved to go far.
They were like "Oh gorgeous she brought tension to the shoot." And yet then it switches to Kashia and theyre like "You were tense, there shouldnt be such tension". Like make up your mind. You praise one girl for bringing tension but another girl does and its "ugh why you bringing tension on the shoot".
I think Kasia could not get into the mood because her styling lacked drama. The other girls had big scarves, headbows etc. Her outfit looked dull and she didn't have the advantage of a statement piece like the other girls did. And also I am so sick with "Ooh, YOU must manage your perception" idea. So some point, yes I agree.. but if the person opposite you is irrational or biased or simply stupid, I'll say it's their problem.
if i remember this correctly, I believe that was a constant problem she had on the show. I believe when she went to the gosees in morocco they didn't have anything that fit her. I think it was just the accumulation of that had made her self conscious and that bummed her out. you're def on point
@@TheElectricitychick I didn't watch the other episodes but regardless, she is a very beautiful woman with a regular size (definitely not a plus size even in modeling standards). Sorry if the judges made her feel self conscious.
@@TheElectricitychick I think that ends up happening to every plus size model to the point where the only reason ANTM even accepted plus size girls in the first place was to pretend they cared. Every single plus size girl has ended up gradually more and more defeated as the show goes on, get's inevitably called out on their dwindling personalities and then have that used against them to be eliminated.
All I’m hearing is we can make fun of you and judge you and say you’re ugly but if you don’t love it you’re rude
It's a good idea to try and think in the photographer's perspective rather than your own.
Honestly!! The minute anyone tried to defend themselves, they were difficult or a diva. It was so gross.
Watching this as a self conscious teen vs now is like night and day. I appreciate your commentary, you know your stuff but you’re also understanding of each person involved in the process. I sense a binge watch coming…
Must feel so empowering for these girls to see you speak up about this craziness. They never get to tell their stories or stand up for themselves. Amazing content❤️
After watching so much ANTM and getting so mad at the way the entire show is toxic and manipulative to the models and the audience 😑
I went and watched Naomi Campbell's show The Face, which I never even knew existed. I ended up watching the entire first season in one sitting. The vibe of the show felt so much calmer and all around so pleasing to watch after this crop. Highly recommend.
I hope she react it plls
Never heard of it. What channel is it on?
Wow! i never knew it existed either, so thank you for giving me a new series to watch! That sounds awesome!
I've watched The Face and Naomi is not to mess with.
@@june6119 I know. I love her. But Naomi doesn't rub me the wrong way the way Tyra does.
Really have an issue with "Berber meets European sophistication". The statement really makes it seem like the Berber people aren't sophisticated or need the help of Europeans to do that for them... But maybe that's just me.
Yeah that was a problem.
Yeah I literally had the same comment!
Ya that bothered me too, very racist/classist lol
Honestly almost lost my mind when he said ‘British sophistication’ it’s called colonization and oppression get it right
Nah, I winced at that too😬
Camels aren't any more difficult to ride than a horse, personality wise they're really not bad. They actually tend to be pretty gentle and patient. They're very smart so the grumpiness probably comes from boredom and/or getting fed up with inexperienced riders flopping around on their backs. Those saddles keep you glued up there, you have to *try* to fall out of one.
Jessica, you’re cracking me up with all that talk about the camel. “She probably has friends on the other side of the desert that are waiting for her and she’s running late.”😂😂😂
Girl I died when she said "how dare you want to have a good shoot? Security, where SECURITY...!" Lol. I SWEAR these people are just absolutely ridiculous. They do it in our faces and some women still take THEIR word as THE GOSPEL. Not just for the industry but SOCIETY wise.
WTF! There she is looking AMAZING, standing up beautifully on the camel, everyone: "She's awful, she's stiff, she's not a model" Are we looking at something different?
Now that I know what I know about Top Model, that photographer was most definitely put up to antogonize Alexandria.
Also Mr. Jay saying what he did beforehand was setting her up for failure. Either or they just wanted to irritate her so they could slap her hand at the next judging panel.
Exactly. The photographer had a predisposed idea of Alexandria and that just wasn't fair. Mr. Jay should not have said a word. He set her up for sure.
Mr. Jay was one of the meanest judges on the show but everyone loved him for some reason.
Unless it was the editing, this had to be one of the most socially awkward photographers I've seen on this show. Being awkward myself, I have no judgments about that, just don't criticize the models for not knowing how to respond to his strange small talk.
did anyone notice how Kasia was the only one where the camel was moving? Like you can't do crazy balanced poses when the camel is walking around
Alexandria was very young and had some personal issues that other models her age had not faced. To some she was abrasive but she always wanted to do better which is admirable.
Naomi Campbell is more abrasive and people respect her so why hate another girl for being abrasive. It’s pure sexism too, expecting women to be nice. When I was too nice, people told me I was naive and dumb. When I was abrasive, I’m an ice queen. WOMEN can never win. Why don’t we say Nigel is abrasive? Mr J?
She came from a broken family... she's the older sister..her parent didn't give much love to her and her sibling...thats why she have abrasive attitude...
Molly is such an amazing model. Even though she was grumpy, I think she probably should have won
That was all edit. They always pick one girl for mean edit.
@@PHSDM104 I watched an interview with Molly where she said she really was grumpy because she wasn't able to eat the way she needed to. I believe she said she was anemic. So she is probably less grumpy in a healthier situation
@@justine4652 ANTM was notorious for gaslighting and manipulation. They would starve the models and deprive them of sleep. Bianca and Kayla got kicked off Cycle 17 because they stood up to production regarding meals. Couple that with editing and you get disliked characters.
@@PHSDM104 I have heard that. They definitely mistreated the girls
okay sooooo i literally just rewatched all of cycle 16 so i could have a more informed opinion 😭 let me say 3 things: 1- for the first like half of the season, alexandria was too controlling and i understand why some of the girls didn't connect with her. especially when these are ppl you work with and live with and cant escape from. 2- alexandria may have her flaws, but the rest of the girls bullied her and were unusually cruel towards her. them ganging up on her to yell at her in front of the photo crew, them reading her diary behind her back, them constantly wishing she would go home simply because she annoyed them etc. etc.. the thing is, i can really understand both perspectives in this situation. alexandria was being controlling sometimes and also seemed to have a very contrived image. but i genuinely think she meant the best. i dont think anything was malicious on her part. as someone who had to grow up real quick too, i completely understand her behavior. and i understand why the girls may have been annoyed. but really, they could have gone about that about a million other better ways. lastly, 3- during the shoots towards the earlier half of the cycle, alexandria was genuinely overstepping her place at photoshoots and commercial filmings. but the example they used in this episode was such bullshit. she never once talked back. she was trying to form a connection with the photographer and speak on how passionate she is, but he just intentionally chose to be offended by the things she said. like literally, it felt like gaslighting. this cycle was very dramatic from top to bottom, but you can definitely see how these girls were sometimes judged very unfairly. okay, glad i just binge watched like 16 episodes in 24 hours so that i could write this one paragraph 🙃
I legitimately gasped along with you at Alexandria's photo. If I hadn't seen the shoot footage, I could have thought she was edited onto that camel. She looks relaxed, completely at home and utterly regal. That's SO powerful, the fact that she's doing nothing fancy (apart from STANDING ON A CAMEL) and she's giving us so much!
Edit: ARGH! Even zooming in on her face she looks perfect. She's a Queen of the Desert, the tension in her face - to me - makes her look haughty and focused. You could build multiple stories around that demeanour, depending on what you wanted.
Wasn't she supposed to be looking for water in the desert? She could be doing that, or if she was a powerful woman local to the area, she could be about to dispense some justice or judgement. Or she could be waiting for her husband to return from some journey.
All of those could work, depending on what other pictures were in the story. The model doesn't put the editorial together (right?), but this picture gives a variety of good jumping-off points. I'm sure her face is more relaxed in other shots.
She actually looks a little scary and beautiful at the same time. Isn't that what they claim "top modelling" is? Somebody who is versatile enough to give high-fashion and commercial?
Yeah - judges, you are idiots. This is amazing. She's standing on a camel, Nigel, sod off with you moaning about her legs being however many inches too far apart. Get your head out of your backside. You try standing on a camel with your legs completely together and film it so we can laugh at you.
Urgh, this is grotesque. She did so well.
mr jay: now camels are not the friendliest of creatures
tHEN WHY WOULD YOU?-
Alexandria's photo is so amazing. She looks so strong in it. I love it!
Everything they say in this episode about being very aware of how others perceive you and making sure people don't think they made a mistake by having you around is literally what my social anxiety tells me. I watched this as a kid, I wonder how much of an impact it had on me
Same but ive always had anxiety symptoms but this show didnt help tho
Every time I watch one of your videos I tend to get the impression that Tyra and the judges give off this perception that the models need to be these submissive little children who just stay silent and do what they're told. It's ridiculous, and honestly quite insulting to the models I would think.
Alex never talked back to the photographer. Mr. Jay ASKED her a question and she answered it, then the photographer said what he said. God they set her up for that. This always made me so mad.
Alexandra's photo on the camel was my favorite of the season. I thought it should have been called no later than 2nd. I felt they chose it to be catty at first but it wound up being unique.💚🐫
Typical day at ANTM:
Tyra: You don't have a photo. What do you have to say for yourself?
Model: Well, the photoshoot was canceled because of a storm. You know that--
Tyra: If you want to be the next top model, you've got to stop making excuses. Do you really WANT this? Are you hungry for it? I don't think you are.
Model: What-- but it was cancelled... what should I have done? The crew didn't show up either, because of the storm.
Tyra: There are always going to be things in your way. If you wanted this, you wouldn't care what the crew does, you SHOW UP.
Model: I should have shown up and stood in the middle of a big storm and model without photographers?
Tyra: I'm very, very disappointed in you, Model. Also, what the f*** are you wearing?
It's clear that the producers told the photographer to act offended by anything Alexandra said or did to further the storyline they had for her on the show. Jessica should have Alexandria on a low res episode next. The way the show and the other contestants treated her on that season and then on All Stas was disgusting
Tyra has always been out of order💀
I stumbled across your videos after some old antm reviews, and as a retired studio photographer, I'm living for your "reacts". Your videos are so on and as someone who grew up with this show, I'm so glad we're onto Tyra finally!
I adore you, your appreciation for your work and those you work with and applying that care to criticizing those clearly not paying the industry, workers and work the same respect. Thank you Jessica!
ANTM loooved to use animals in their shoots. I always felt bad for the animals 😕 they never looked like they were having a great time.
Girl you have to disect s5 photoshoots they made them wear corsets that dont let them breathe properly, next episode with the wild boys, then, 6 girls naked inside a phonebooth, next, judges are jerks to contestant Bre due to a missing granola bar!! Following episode they criticize Bre for taking medication for allergies, and doing bad in the photoshoot allegedly! Its charged with moments!!! Thank you for your ANTM content as well as the photography content
Stay safe and Blessed Jessica
Oh dear god. Corests aren’t supposed to be uncomfortabl let alone make you stop breathing properly. They must have gotten those trash steel things and laced them way too tight. That’s dangerous.
What episode was the corset photoshoot?! And what season? I’ll take a look! Thanks for the suggestions!!
@@JessicaKobeissi omg thank you (SO MUCH) for reading and commenting 💖 it is C5 (Lisa D'Amato's season and it happens to be the episode where Tyra has a photoshoot with the girls (that Lisa mentioned). Cycle 5 Episode 6: The girls are 1940s pin-ups (:
Hope you stay safe and Blessed Jessica 😇
Alexandria's photo was one of the best in the shoot. I was mesmerized by her pose.
It’s funny how they tried to make Alexandria into the villain when Brittani was such a trash person. I would go as far to say she is one of the the meanest people to ever be on ANTM, if not THE meanest.
i can’t with Tyra srsly
A great reaction would be cycle 8 where Brittany had issues remembering her lines for a commercial and she was accused of using her short term memory disorder to gain more favor from the judges. Also her being late on the go sees must see!
I'd forgotten that, the show is just so full of awfulness that it's impossible to keep track of it all!
Like that time they told a legally blind contestant to just wing it. No cane, no nothing, just wing it. What could possibly go wrong?
@@Nocturnalux cuz if you're being late makes you upset sometimes, especially in go sees with hours & times that's pretty stressful & time management.
@@visualbeauty3427 I don't think you meant to reply to me, though? Because I did not even mention anything about her being late or not.
@@Nocturnalux ??
I'm not a professional photographer, but i dont know of any photographers who would put a bad photo just because they felt that the model was "talking back" as it would completely put their own reputation and possibly livelyhood on the line...that's NOT worth it
You make me watch these episodes so differently. And I appreciate it! Alexandra was painted as such a villain. I mean, she had her quirks, as they all do. But, she deserved better.
I still love Alexandria and she was made to be the bad girl and Brittani was the good girl... I just wish Alexandria would do interviews and tell us her side... Also also - Alexandria's look has kinda inspired a lot of print /runway models of today... Stern face, attitude of directness, AKA fierceness...
Oliver Twixt tried to give her a platform, but she stood him up. I was so disappointed because I thought ANTM did her dirty and wanted her hear her side. Maybe someday she'll speak out.
I'm so happy Molly's talent got to shine here. This show and this season did her so dirty
love ur videos to reacting it’s amazing and i love your energy !!! one of my fav youtubers i found it’s so hard to find good youtubers now these days so i really appreciate you !!!
I appreciate you!!!! Thank you!!
Honestly, Alexandria was heavily criticized back in the day, not only the judges, but also the fandom, at the time, couldn't stand her because of how she was edited. She was unfairly misunderstood though, but was set up, at times I thought Jay sabotaged her with photographers tbh. However, I don't think she was as strong as Brittani, Molly and Hannah, they were amazing models.
PS; Still waiting for Jessica to react to Cycle 3's episode 12 photoshoot, the way Ann was treated, during both the shoot and panel. Nowhere near as bad as Kelle's, but still really bad
Alexandria had determination and was very aware of everything on her body, I feel like the fact that she was older than the other girls was a factor to connect with them, also Brittani and Molly were so mean towards her, I really didn't like their attitudes I hope it was just for the sake of the show because they were so jelaous and hateful, Molly was just a depressive person on the show and Brittani seem like a mean high school girl, for me... every model on this show is a great model, all is depending on what the client wants, some girls are great for high fashion, others for commercial fashion and it's not bad 🤷🏻♀️
Mr Jay set her up to fail, by telling the photographer that she was trouble and then needling her about how she was controlling... of HERSELF.
Also Alexandria grated my nerves on the show when I was younger but watching this back, they definitely made her the villain the whole season. All the other girls hated her and it really wasn't fair. Especially when there are newer seasons of girls that were just plain mean and they weren't demonized as bad as Alexandria.
Also that photographer was a bit much in general. Lmfao just all around odd.
A consistent queen, love your content 🧚🏽♀️
I’m so sick of Brittany. She’s always so rude and jealous if someone does good and I don’t think she deserved to win ANTM. It should have been Molly. She has a way better attitude than Brittany.
In my opinion everything was calculated to make Alexandria look like the villain of the show.
It’s like Russian roulette with these judges.
I can not stand Tyra. She infuriates me.
Okay this is the 3rd ANTM video of yours I’m watching and your commentary in these segments have me rolling and trust me when I say that it takes a special kind of person and their humor to have me laughing this consistently
I loved the little camel thing, about the fact that she probably had friends waiting for her 🐫 I knew I wasn't the only one that created these little stories about animals and even objects (sorry for my poor English)
Your English isn't poor,mate :)
The poor camel’s back. You can’t stand on their backs
These girls weigh like 100 lbs the camel is fine in that aspect
The finale for this one was intense. I remember when I was younger it made me uncomfortable laugh. Molly and Brittany get to the final two and Brittany wins. Molly was sooooo pissed off. Her anger issues come to the fore front.
thing is britany was trash as well.
They made Molly cut her hair…. and then she lost. I would be soooo angry too.
Honestly, that should've been her makeover instead of those ramen noodles they sewed into her hair.
Both sucked a lot and did not deserved to be at the final lol
@@megangrant2597 I'm sorry, no way someone is about to drag Molly (one of my ANTM favorites) like that. 😂 Molly and Brittany were both ✨stunning✨ this season, "attitude issues" aside.
Jessica, you crack me up so hard with your commentary. I laughed out so loud at the Spotify bit, I READ IT TOO. Especially considering she does sing in the following all-star season lmao.
When you asked “can you ride a camel?”-it made me think of the Mitch Hedberg bit where he’s talking about people wanting him to be able to act and write scripts to be a comedian… “Ok you’re a cook, but can you farm?” - essentially “Ok you’re a model, but can you ride a camel???” 😂
Alexandria (Confessional): "I love animals."
*She tries to pet the camel, but the camel snarls at her.*
Alexandria: *Offended* "Hey!"
Me: 😆😁😅😂
Jessica should react to the gargoyle shoot from Cycle 9. Ebony KILLED that shoot!
I think Tyra's conspiracy theory that photographers will purposefully choose a bad picture to take petty revenge on a model they don't like is very telling to how ANTM works
Franca is crying in deep when she heard about it...
The inhale when Jess saw the outcome of Alexandria's shoot proved that everyone on the show was definitely ganging up on her for no reason
Also you’re so funny and adorable I love you 😹😭