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  • @ppmemer69
    @ppmemer69 11 месяцев назад +548

    its just interesting how Zhongli's ascension stat is geo dmg and his weapon gives atk%, he was definitely made to be a support but they made some interesting decisions regarding his ascension stat and signature weapon

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 11 месяцев назад +17

      It's called _"being utterly clueless"._

    • @Anthony-so4go
      @Anthony-so4go 11 месяцев назад +9

      He was released as useless Pixel Status pick and got useful after All the buffs done.

    • @_greymore
      @_greymore 11 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, They couldn't do HP% on top of everything else and shield strength as a ascension stat would be broken. So I feel like it's a good middle ground because it incentivizes you upgrading his burst for some extra damage on top of the petrification stuff. Idk

    • @devonstoomuch
      @devonstoomuch 11 месяцев назад

      he can do everything. so can diona.

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@_greymore meanwhile Yelan is ranged, does a fck ton of damage, scales off purely HP, is hydro, and has CR as ascension. But giving Zhongli HP% ascension would be too broke amirite?

  • @justanotherguy3294
    @justanotherguy3294 11 месяцев назад +122

    Nah, Zongli needed that immunity to interruption while holding skill. He’s Archon of geo for f sake

    • @stvi__6295
      @stvi__6295 11 месяцев назад

      I DONT CARE FRFR

  • @iseymalik7828
    @iseymalik7828 11 месяцев назад +249

    zhongli in the beta was op, his normal attacks were infused with geo and his ult was able to petrify the bosses but then they nerfed him

    • @haberkonium
      @haberkonium 11 месяцев назад +11

      Ngl...that sounds dope af

    • @DARimpo
      @DARimpo 11 месяцев назад +17

      Beta!Zhongli : Rex Lapis, the god of contract, the strongest adeptus, slayer of gods etc etc
      Zhongli after beta : osmanthus wine....

    • @motokaichou2010
      @motokaichou2010 11 месяцев назад +4

      I support this argument.
      If you pay attention to his trailer, he can break his petrified enemies using his Skill. Which got nerfed and turned his skill only capable of breaking rock shields.
      His skill got nerfed so hard you can actually use that elemental detection thingy on a petrified enemy and see that it's now turned into a Geo object. Zhongli's skill supposedly breaks all Geo objects such as Rock Shields by Hilichurls and Ores but somehow petrified enemies that's actually detected as a Geo object are unaffected by his skill.

  • @shadowsage2636
    @shadowsage2636 11 месяцев назад +35

    If zhongli was never bad then they wouldn't have changed him based on the near unanimous back lash 99% of everyone shared.

    • @caesart9264
      @caesart9264 11 месяцев назад +4

      the problem is that there are only 2 possibilities, mihoyo doesn't understand their own game or is forced to follow the player's will even though they have to change the gameplay they want to make..
      and both are bad signs for the game..

    • @markmywords3817
      @markmywords3817 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@caesart9264nah they did have a idea on how to use Zhongli in beta as a DPS+support, they just nerfed him too hard upon release and decided he was gonna be a support.

  • @daierosen
    @daierosen 11 месяцев назад +64

    That vid didn't mention that the debuff was a part of his kit in cbt, after using his burst it was suppose to give a 20% physical and geo res shred while the enemies are petrified, they gave him back the debuff and made it even better to work on all elements and attached to his shield instead.

  • @charms7232
    @charms7232 11 месяцев назад +79

    Nah you're still wrong. Zhongli's kit is all over the damn place to the point he fails to do every role possible, even Diona was better than him for floor 12 because her shield can not be interrupted, and cryo shields were 100% more useful than having a Geo shield since Geo enemies might as well be non existent in the abyss.

    • @mostmediocre2887
      @mostmediocre2887 11 месяцев назад +5

      What are you talking about? I thought they literally showed that they changed geo shields to resist all elements, unlike other types like cryo. (Or I might be making that up can't be bothered to check the vid, but either way it says it right in his kit that he has all res shield buff by like 150%) But for the record I generally don't disagree, for someone who proudly spouts that he hasnt played in nine months teccy sure has a lot of takes about the game 🙄

    • @charms7232
      @charms7232 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@mostmediocre2887 I was talking about pre buffed Zhongli. I said "still wrong" cause I was responding to tectone's "Zhongli was never bad" at 21:34. My fault for the confusion, sorry.

    • @mostmediocre2887
      @mostmediocre2887 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@charms7232 oh ok all good 👌

    • @softjytsu
      @softjytsu 11 месяцев назад

      exactly, he's saying "just use staff of homa" when staff of homa didn't even fucking exist in 1.1

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +1

      Even to this very day there's just as good , if not better options than him in most teams where he can be slotted in. This character has singlehandedly rotted people's brains into believing no other characters can possibly compete with him for his job, but that's simply not true whatsoever.

  • @ThundahPrime
    @ThundahPrime 11 месяцев назад +49

    it's so funny how in Tectone's bait video he says that Zhongli is so powerful that you will never die
    and then in his showcase his entire team died with both Zhongli and Bennett

    • @alreadyd1d
      @alreadyd1d 11 месяцев назад +18

      And he had C6 too 😂

    • @raweltz
      @raweltz 11 месяцев назад +18

      This dude is always just farming reactions. He double downs even though he himself know he is wrong just to get impressions.

    • @reptoslicer24
      @reptoslicer24 11 месяцев назад +3

      he is nuts. he says anything without thinking sometimes.

    • @myaava6608
      @myaava6608 11 месяцев назад

      He just wants to farm view and impressions. You talk shit and people come flocking wanting to comment and reply shit at you. This in turn gives views and impressions. What you guys need to do is actually ignore these types of mfs but I know it's hard for you guys to do that.

    • @joaquinchua3348
      @joaquinchua3348 11 месяцев назад +8

      He is literally clueless about the meta, mfker was saying zhongli was good pre buff while having c6 r5 zhongli lmao, and he's arguing with theorycrafters about it too, zhongli shield pre buff literally had geo dmg absorption instead of all types like right now, and at the time there was only 2 fking geo mobs in the game lmao, and the abyss was full of cryo enemies, Diona was literally better than him on release, how tf did genshin devs fuck up his release so badly is beyond me.

  • @TheBoltMaster456
    @TheBoltMaster456 11 месяцев назад +103

    Zhongli absolutely needed the buffs. Even his shielding abilities, what he's INTENDED FOR, were DOGSHIT at C0 with an R1 weapon. And Geo being a dogshit element at the time(worse than pre-Dendro Electro, can you believe it? lmfao) did not help at all. Both the buffs to Geo and the buffs to Zhongli himself were necessary to make Zhongli the best tank and shielder in the game. Otherwise him being slightly better than a C3 Noelle at shielding just wouldn't make him worth pulling for.

    • @alreadyd1d
      @alreadyd1d 11 месяцев назад +8

      I would say literally every buff except for normal attack HP scaling was needed. Without additional pillar spawn from hold E he would create weird ass rotations and waste time + hard to get Tenacity proc in the future. Without additional universal resistance shred he would be too easily powercrept by any other shielding unit, since defensive characters need some party utility or they will be outclassed by future releases (literally every healer/shielder has more to them than just surviving).

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +1

      Electro was never even bad . People live in this weird ass delusional world where electro was somehow one of the worst elements in the game when that has always been geo and cryo. (And no freeze alone does not make cryo a good element)

    • @tribopower
      @tribopower 11 месяцев назад +2

      Agree, but they went overboard, he is still to this day the most fit all broken character in the game, even Kazuha and Nahida have their limits (you can't slot them in a geo team for example) Zhongli doesn't even have that you can legitimately put him in every team, and it works perfectly, the fact that he is geo just makes it better for him as he doesn't ruin any elemental reactions.

    • @zakhar7830
      @zakhar7830 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@tribopowerzhongli is a B tier character at best. There are tons of characters who are far more useful than him

    • @joaquinchua3348
      @joaquinchua3348 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@tribopowerhe does ruin reactions lmao, his pillar can consume the element applied to an enemy, u can put it away from the fight but if you do that then he generates 0 energy, and no, you can't slot him in every team, hell he ain't even used in the best teams in the game aside from HT vape, literally all the other top meta teams that have the highest abyss usage according to akashadata namely, Freeze, raiden/childe international, and Alhaitham spread, hyperbloom, Nilou Superbloom. Out of all the top teams in the game, zl is only used in 1 lmao.

  • @alessandroreyes3827
    @alessandroreyes3827 11 месяцев назад +27

    People say that he didnt needed the buff but if it wasnt for that he wouldnt be where he is today.
    If it wasnt for that kokomi would have taken his place and nobody would summon him.

    • @blastzd
      @blastzd 11 месяцев назад +2

      he still isnt even close to being meta tho lol

  • @Maxbillion.
    @Maxbillion. 11 месяцев назад +15

    They had to either buff zhongli or nerf Diona. They couldn't have an Archon be objectively worse than a 4 star they just released.

    • @shiroeikami8467
      @shiroeikami8467 11 месяцев назад

      I think they release archons too early.

  • @tacemiko3849
    @tacemiko3849 11 месяцев назад +10

    Thats funny how you mentioned Staff of Homa when it wasnt even released with Zhongli

  • @Magine_
    @Magine_ 11 месяцев назад +114

    I remember getting Zhongli in December and Genshin turned into the easiest game ever, the buff later made the game a visual novel lol

    • @drey7459
      @drey7459 11 месяцев назад +6

      Fr. If not for Rift hounds, one could simply play Zhongli only and still sleepwalk the game

  • @LCliffhanger
    @LCliffhanger 11 месяцев назад +68

    Im glad we got the buffs, seeing the changes mentioned in this video, i definitely think all the changes were very much needed and i wish they were more willing to make changes like these.

    • @kaycex1
      @kaycex1 11 месяцев назад +1

      he got buff cuz cn went political on hoyo

  • @shizhou5809
    @shizhou5809 11 месяцев назад +5

    Lets do some Pre-buff Zhongli number crunching.
    Lv90 HP: 14695
    lv10 Shield: 23.04% HP + 2711 shield
    Black Tassel 46.92% HP + 4780 HP flower + 20% HP substat + 3 46.6% HP Main stat: 206.72% HP + 4780 HP
    25% Shield strength passive
    Total effective shield: (14695 * 3.0672 + 4780) * .2304 + 2711.51 = 14,388 Shield
    After 25% shield strength passive: 17,985 shield
    With Fav Lance : 15,964 Shield
    Post Buff shield would be: 25,179 Shield
    Post Buff Fav lance shield: 22,349 Shield
    18k shield sounds great right? Prebuff you can get knocked out of casting shield, and no pillar spawn. This means you can waste time or even die trying to put up a shield. Enegy is very important to make a team effective. Prebuff means you have 0 particle generating unless you have favonius lance.
    Now lets look at Diona.
    lv90 HP: 9570
    lv12 shield: 14.4% HP + 1772.58 HP
    Recruse Bow 46.92% HP + 4780 HP flower + 20% HP substat + 3 46.6% HP Main stat: 206.72% HP + 4780 HP
    75% shield strength with Hold E + 15% shield strength on C2: 90% shield strength
    Total effective shield: (9570 * 3.0672 + 4780) * .144 + 1772.58 = 6,041 Shield
    After 90% Shield strength: 12,706 Shield
    With Fav/sac: 11,478 Shield
    The difference would have been 5.2k with HP weapon and 4.5k with Fav weapon. Thats about 1-3 hits depending on the type of attack from elite mobs. With a healing ult on diona, you will heal for about 4.5k x6 at lv12. What you have now is a 11.5k shield + 27k Healing + Energy particle generation + fav generation + 200 em buff at c6 against a 18k shield with 0 particle generation or 16k shield with fav particle generation. ZL shield itself is fine but he completely lacked everything else, like qiqi with the highest healing but provides absolutely nothing else. Qiqi had more healing than ZL had shield and both couldnt generate particles so if qiqi is terrible, ZL was worse in terms of damage recovered/prevented. Post buff ZL now gets to summon his pillar as well so there is at least a chance to get particles, a stronger shield, and 20% res shred.

  • @pankace3296
    @pankace3296 11 месяцев назад +8

    Yall dont realize how bad Zhongli actually was. Even with 3x hp%, his shield was a little bit better than Diona's shield. He had nothing else useful in his kit at all.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +3

      Even to this day he barely has anything useful. 20% shred ain't shit when you could just switch him for someone who does off field damage and just get more overall dps. People will use the argument of "he removes the need to dodge" so does every other shield in the game. It isn't some exclusive trait to Zhongli. Even in mono geo Itto, Zhongli is the *flex* slot character , meaning he's an option for it, but not the absolute best one either.

    • @shadowsage2636
      @shadowsage2636 11 месяцев назад

      Everyone does, its only tectone and other dense people that think he didn't need a buff, and despite what the above moron says he is still insanly good even now, the res shred and overly strong shield and massively powerful burst makes him still at the top of support.

  • @leogtt1627
    @leogtt1627 11 месяцев назад +113

    I like Tec, but you can clearly see his pride talking in this one. Zhongli wasn't fine, never was.

    • @softjytsu
      @softjytsu 11 месяцев назад +32

      he wants to be different so badly it's hilarious

    • @pr0duktt
      @pr0duktt 11 месяцев назад +5

      Respect the dude and love his nonstop shenanigans, but Teccy is like allergic to conformity. Even when it’s in his best interest to just nod his head and let be what will… zhongli had problems at his launch. He needed some re-evaluation and a clearer design role. I don’t think they needed to go as far as buff the entirety of Geo just to accommodate its elemental god, but some of those Kit and scaling changes definitely need to happen.

    • @isekawai
      @isekawai 11 месяцев назад

      i still think zhongli is weak,(cus he is not a dps) his attacks and burst can deal damage but then u can't support that much and zhongli is still not gonna be your dps so you gonna fall off.
      i like the fact that i just put on 3 hp% and press E no problem +his res and damage support with the right arrifact is realy nice but bennett still gives a better boos while with 3 hp% he also can heal the entire team.
      and those people who build zhongli for damage weird me out

    • @ster9644
      @ster9644 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@isekawaithe fact that he's not a dps doesn't make him bad. Bennett buffs and heals whatever but with zhongli you dont need a fucking healer at all. Also both of us know that in abyss you use zhongli in every floor,and even if you don't the majority of the playerbase do cause his support capabilities are insane

    • @nimeshthakor1407
      @nimeshthakor1407 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ster9644yeah his ego got hurt he play on r5 c6 characters but if we see at f2p standpoint zhongli was not good like c0 and 4 star weapon r1 his potential was locked behind cons or homa r5 that tectone plays no wonder he doesn't know about zhongli at c0 and with f2p weapon. I have only one thing to say to him see all the possibility before you say anything why zhongli is not good oh I am playing like a whale no wonder I don't know how bad he is at c0

  • @ThuHtut
    @ThuHtut 11 месяцев назад +15

    venti shoots a wind hole💀
    not a black hole

  • @This_Origami
    @This_Origami 11 месяцев назад +6

    yeah, he was absolutely broken while getting knocked around by a mitachurl during the 2s shield cast.
    Now take the same scenario but switch the mitachurl with the consecrated beasts.
    Yeah, not fun at all

  • @cmszd_
    @cmszd_ 10 месяцев назад +2

    honestly, even though it was overblown, yeah i do agree that he needed buffs. like the only thing he had pre buff was a shield and petrification. diona, has shields, heals and buffs. sucrose has cc, and res shred. xingqiu provides crazy off field hydro app. and benny is benny need i say more?

  • @Olivysg
    @Olivysg 11 месяцев назад +16

    To be fair back in 1.1 the need for shields wasn't as apparent as it is now. Enemies got 1 shot and didnt have much depth with their mechanics.

    • @softjytsu
      @softjytsu 11 месяцев назад

      that's not true, the childe fight was a LOT harder than what it was now

    • @Olivysg
      @Olivysg 11 месяцев назад

      @@softjytsu still wasn't as hard as floor 9+ of the spiral abyss, back then most players were running purple artifacts with characters that were between lvl 60-70, there was a much bigger desperate need for damage than survivability back then so most players felt that Zhongli held their progress back.
      But back then players thought bennett was the worst healer and xingqiu was mid at best.
      It was a different time.

  • @exiler5405
    @exiler5405 11 месяцев назад +11

    Also you are the one who still think he doesn't need a buff.

  • @courtlin
    @courtlin 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the video. First time I had a semi decent watch without crying. One of my Huskies just died. We still have the father and the daughter but after her loss the entire family has been depressed. I try to keep the other two happy but I can’t stop crying. One second she was fine and then suddenly she had a heart attack outside. It was so sudden.

  • @LuisBrito-ly1ko
    @LuisBrito-ly1ko 11 месяцев назад +96

    Yep, that entire buff trivialized the game so much, they had to make mobs and mechanics that ignore or take advantage of shields while at the same time leaving in the dust the healers.
    It was after those buffs that people began trashing on the healer class in general. Until of course Rifthounds.
    It completely broke the Game’s balance, I agree. That was the beginning of things to come.

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 11 месяцев назад

      They're like the SJW Twitter crusaders. They don't fix problems or innovate, they just add more issues and make the place more annoying to live in.

    • @simonditomasso9868
      @simonditomasso9868 11 месяцев назад +9

      The balancing of Zhongli is that he does no dmg

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples 11 месяцев назад +9

      Healers were bad from the start. People don’t mainly use shields to block damage, they use it to avoid stagger which heals do not do. Did we forget that Venti was the first to break the game’s balance? What about Xiangling? Bennett? Xingqiu? The games balance was already broken since the beginning lol anti-shield enemies were inevitable. To say they made them to counter Zhongli is stupid.

    • @LuisBrito-ly1ko
      @LuisBrito-ly1ko 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@TacticalDimples
      Cap.
      People use shields absolutely to avoid damage since there are many who can’t even dodge or don’t want to dodge. Stagger is, in the minds of most players, an afterthought.
      And the amount of teams without shield characters proves it.
      Venti didn’t broke the game because his burst is something that works or doesn’t depending on the mobs’ size. Hence why he quickly faded away from Meta as soon as heavier foes appeared in Abyss.
      Xiangling is nothing without Xingqiu and Bennett and back in those days many people thought she was trash.
      Xingqiu and Bennett do not break the game either because they’re as good as the Main DPS allows them to be, since they’re applicators and buffers respectively.
      Xingqiu does not make Amber OP. Bennett does not make Qiqi OP. So, no. They do not break the balance of the game.
      Zhongli did as it directly made every fight regardless of mob a walk in the park.

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@LuisBrito-ly1ko Venti did break the game. Why do you think Mihoyo had to add so many heavy enemies to abyss? Its only because of Venti.
      Back at launch noone considered Xiangling trash. They considered her amazing, the difference is people used her for physical damage instead of fire.
      Bennet also broke the game just by how strong his healing + attack buff was. Xingqiu didnt, but he was still incredibly strong with stupid high off-field damage output.
      I dont know why you are telling that other person they are capping, lol. Zhongli wasnt the first character to have a shield. Noelle's shield also made damage avoidance easymode. Its just that few people used her since she was only really usable as carry. Zhongli only made ''every fight a walk in the park'' if the player had his C6. Otherwise it was still weaker then Bennets healing that also gave a massive buff. It was also completely useless on my Noelle since she already had her own shield.

  • @mubrek236
    @mubrek236 11 месяцев назад +2

    Tectone with his 2 year old video tomfoolery:
    *You may have outsmarted me but I outsmarted your outsmarting.*

  • @ArchonKujo
    @ArchonKujo 11 месяцев назад +4

    The Mr Krabs part was funny 😂😂 Imagine that was how Krabby Patties were secretly made

  • @sarahtelles1931
    @sarahtelles1931 11 месяцев назад +10

    Can't wait to see you pull for Kafka, good luck Tectone!

    • @ArchonKujo
      @ArchonKujo 11 месяцев назад +1

      I cannot wait to get her too

    • @sarahtelles1931
      @sarahtelles1931 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ArchonKujo alright I wish you luck stranger!

  • @vicefamgaming
    @vicefamgaming 11 месяцев назад

    Oh man! Seeing you in a Summoner's War video was a first for me. I knew you played it, but never bothered to check it out. That was cool

  • @mathlcm
    @mathlcm 11 месяцев назад +15

    Tectone was wrong about Zhongli, just imagine pre-buff Zhongli agaisnt the consecrated beasts in floor 12, it would be a struggle to even get his shield up since he could get interrupted, once he had the shield that shit would barely take two taps cause of lower hp scaling.
    Also at launch Diona was arguably a better shielder back then the Abyss floor 12 had only cryo enemies, so its not even like you didnt have another option. My man just can't take this L.

  • @shubham.v4639
    @shubham.v4639 11 месяцев назад +2

    You know what, when the drama was happening i was busy pulling for him and got him in the hard pity last day last pull not even kidding, still have the screen recording on my phone, it was worth it.

  • @s-zs7nn
    @s-zs7nn 11 месяцев назад +82

    Tectones takes are often funny but he was just wrong. Zhongli was legit qiqi level on release. Almost non existent particle gen, u had to choose between shield or pillar. His shield was as strong as 4 star shields like diona and weaker than layla or thoma. His ult did no dmg (still doesnt). He basically was useless in every way u look at it.

    • @irugadark123
      @irugadark123 11 месяцев назад +14

      I agree, i remember his shield getting destroyed by slimes in his trial

    • @affyraffy4661
      @affyraffy4661 11 месяцев назад +5

      and people thought his buffs made him so overpowered when people here and there are excluding him from team comps in certain situations

    • @lewsee5562
      @lewsee5562 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@goodfriend4059The Diona part is wrong. Her shield has 250% resistance to cryo, whereas pre-buff geo shield is 250% against geo.
      And the abyss is filled with cryo back then so that made Diona way stronger than him.

    • @simonditomasso9868
      @simonditomasso9868 11 месяцев назад +6

      He had a c6 Zhongli so he couldn’t know from experience how bad c0 Zhongli was

    • @generaltorgal5730
      @generaltorgal5730 11 месяцев назад

      @@lewsee5562 her shield has a bonus of 70% shield strenght when u HOLD it, thats why its the strongest shield back then

  • @NeoSlashott
    @NeoSlashott 11 месяцев назад +3

    It's crazy players think Tanky characters are considered DPS. LOOOL!!

  • @darvader00
    @darvader00 11 месяцев назад +5

    I kinda wish this happened to Jing Yuan so they would make it so his lightning lord would advance forward at 10 stacks. Thats all I want.

    • @softjytsu
      @softjytsu 11 месяцев назад

      yeah i think it needs to be like blade where you get 10 stacks and it automatically drops

  • @themidnightotaku22
    @themidnightotaku22 11 месяцев назад +8

    I thought Zhongli was cool even before his first buff. But I’m still very surprised about how amazing he ended up to.

    • @blastzd
      @blastzd 11 месяцев назад

      he was shit before bruh

  • @jahjab1226
    @jahjab1226 11 месяцев назад +6

    The 1.1 update was funny in general. Remember when people kept burning themselves in the grass because burning grass was supposed to scale with Adventurer Rank? I remember seeing multiple Reddit posts about how Pyro characters were a liability now because they kept killing themselves with fire.

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 11 месяцев назад +1

      Haha, I remember that. To this day I still think its silly how much people complained about that, and afterwards fire damage from burning grass became basically zero.

  • @johnnyguavo2884
    @johnnyguavo2884 11 месяцев назад +3

    my friend had a cracked zhongli prior to his buffs and then with out any work he logged back in and noticed his damaged tripled. will Dehya ever receive such blessings

  • @HolyGuardian25
    @HolyGuardian25 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm still happy that I decided to get Zhongli during his first release whether he's good or not. Cuz at the end of the day, lots of veteran gamers already know that characters who receives big amounts of complaints have high chances of getting buffs. Which is a common scenario to lots of games. Hopefully, this common knowledge will reach those who are not yet enlightened by this fact. Anyways, the Genshin community did great! If we get enough drama, HoYoverse will definitely buff certain characters who deserve to get buffs 🌟

  • @ArchonKujo
    @ArchonKujo 11 месяцев назад +40

    Ughhhh... I am pretty excited for Zhongli's rerun but holy shit I'm not excited for a Genshin drama rerun...

    • @uhhsmile1746
      @uhhsmile1746 11 месяцев назад

      I kinda want his c1 but I'm also broke rn

    • @Saberdud
      @Saberdud 11 месяцев назад +2

      I'm excited for a Genshin drama rerun

    • @jinwood
      @jinwood 11 месяцев назад +6

      Drama is what fuels genshin community. Tw users can't live a single day without finding something to get offended with

  • @Lunarelise
    @Lunarelise 11 месяцев назад +12

    I think they're just afraid of the game failing badly because of how OVERWHELMING the backlash is and in such early launch too.
    So they're just temporarily quenching the thirst of these people. What happened now then? They just ignored everything altogether. It's already a red flag when the dev replied as "I see no problem, they work as intended." after the Zhongli backlash.
    Yes, I'm bombastically, side eying Dehya 🤭

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад

      Hate to break this you, but every single gacha game under the sun has their own dehya. This shit ain't new or exclusive to genshin.

    • @Lunarelise
      @Lunarelise 11 месяцев назад

      @@justsomeguy727 sorry for asking this, are those game also experienced something similar like Zhongli?

  • @shapesofme4413
    @shapesofme4413 11 месяцев назад +1

    Me getting him as my first ever event banner back in the days and still using him

  • @riotangel4701
    @riotangel4701 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wish this wasn't just a one-off incident.

  • @kiwimokka
    @kiwimokka 11 месяцев назад

    akashott would prolly stream tonight to watch this react video
    love your vids aka!

  • @anxioshcrg490
    @anxioshcrg490 11 месяцев назад

    4:02 Also during the Demo there's this misconception about using his Hold E against Petrified Enemies by his Meteor kinda treats enemies as how he shred Geo Shields with the Hold E. I think that also add about the point of false advertisement.

  • @SlaineReigns
    @SlaineReigns 9 месяцев назад +2

    I dont know why Tectone is still holding the stance that Zhongli was "good" on release. He was not good at all, he was "okay" but not "good". He probably forgot that his shield did not block anything but Geo element. So if he was struck by physical or any element but geo the shield he provided was not sturdy enough even if he was properly built. His dmg was also pretty below standard (even now with the buffs his dmg isnt so good).
    But i guess that's tectone's hill that he will dai on.

  • @sarahtelles1931
    @sarahtelles1931 11 месяцев назад +1

    I want to pull for him. If its within my power I want to know what the best equipment for him is in case I get him

  • @r3b3l33
    @r3b3l33 11 месяцев назад

    It's so nice to see you lose weight and improve on yourself❤️🔥 Best of luck for your future endeavours

  • @Sudoxeee
    @Sudoxeee 11 месяцев назад +6

    i still can't fathom how anyone would take teccy seriously. His takes never mattered coming from someone who thinks on how much he can spend than actually learn the game mechanics. His opinion holds no weight especially for f2p since he never had any experience being one and only knows the game from c6r5 perspective. He whaled on genshin and has never tried playing as an average player with no resin refreshes or C6R5's yet talks like he knows it all.
    When he said just add triple HP artifacts to ZL and staff of homa, that doesn't mean anyone would have one, or that if he is in triple HP and all he does is shield(even with homa), is he really worth that slot as an f2p. What this movement was for is so mihoyo won't intentionally make shit 5 stars in the future(ahem dehya) because if on 2020 we already have a shit archon what's going to happen in the future. Also Diona can shield, battery and heal and she's a 4 star.

    • @grimmyboy161
      @grimmyboy161 11 месяцев назад

      huh?just a shield even without homa zhongli could carry anyone,zhongli objectively top 10 5 stars for f2p idk how thats even a debate

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@grimmyboy161 Zhongli shield was very weak at release and so was the rest of his kit. Thats not up to debate. You either didnt play him then, dont remember, or only saw him at C6 like Tectone's Zhongli, which massively buffed his shielding and energy gain.

    • @Sudoxeee
      @Sudoxeee 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@grimmyboy161 Post buff zhongli can use full hp artifacts with black tassel and be decent, that's a fact.
      But pre-buff he barely dealt any damage to be forced as a dps, has no res shred so he has no way to help the team deal more dmg; and the one thing he has to offer which was to shield he was not even half good at for such 5 star rarity.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@grimmyboy161top 10 5stars ? There is zero universe where Zhongli is in the same realm as Nahida, Yelan, Kazuha, Alhaitham, Hu Tao, Tartaglia, Shenhe (for cryo specifically), Yae (post dendro), Nilou or even Raiden for that matter. What are people smoking with this character lmao

  • @davinhatch-pb3os
    @davinhatch-pb3os 9 месяцев назад

    Before the buffs and after I enjoyed him either way. He seemed pretty op to me, he helped me with hard content when I lacked dps( and still does after 3 years). My artifacts are pretty crap too but my team feels pretty much invincible on top of complete cc immunity. Either of those things alone are crazy op... so ya imma have to go with Tectone on this

  • @jeremiahab800
    @jeremiahab800 11 месяцев назад +1

    19:40 This is why I started following Tectone...at first I was confused, but I eventually ended up loving the bait titles XD

  • @drantino
    @drantino 11 месяцев назад

    i still say inital release zhongli needed something, both from the prespective that some chars need buffs, and zhongli only had tank going for him. like diona and xinyan when you build for there shield support rivals them(yes xinyans shield does get that tanky) with attribute and uptime differences with both of these being 4 stars. diona is also a healer and provides other support aspects like 200 EM on C6 that is reasonable to obtain compared to multiple cons of a 5 star. its effectivly the C2/C6 zhongli that does make him feel like the tank archon

  • @greensofa3234
    @greensofa3234 11 месяцев назад +4

    hey it's that guy that was spreading missinformation about ganyu

  • @tribopower
    @tribopower 11 месяцев назад

    I was back then (kinda wild that it's been 3 years) and one thing that tectone always overlooks is that his zhongli was c6 with max ref staff of holma, so ofc his zhongli was beyond broken, but for the vast majority of f2p he had a lot of issues, but his buffs were overboard, and we must admit it (this comes from someone who plays since the beginning and has a c0 Zhongli).

  • @badartperson9976
    @badartperson9976 11 месяцев назад

    That summoners war video had me dying

  • @Goldyboi2001
    @Goldyboi2001 11 месяцев назад +1

    Reaction ideas for geo
    Geo+Pyro= i dont know what to call it but basically it spawns something like a dendro core, if you hit it with a pyro attack after, it explodes, if you hit it with a geo attack it splinters out and creates a damaging area that does damage based on percentage of the damage your attack did on the core
    Geo+Hydro=Crystallize:but buff it to where it gives a shield based on defense or it heals based on you total hp
    Geo+Electro=Thunderstruck:Kinda like Vap or Melt
    Geo+Anemo=Splintered: DOT
    Geo+Dendro=Rooted:Life drain+heal over time
    Geo+Cryo=Shattered:defense shred
    Remeber, you seen it here folks

  • @raystrife234
    @raystrife234 11 месяцев назад +2

    The only buffs alot of people asked for was for his energy regeneration to be consistent and his held E to be uninterruptible. The shred and overscaling shield with HP was really unnecessary. He's the only character in the game that could petrify giant hillichurl sized enemies and they topped it off with a shred and an almost invincible shield, making other shield type characters feel like they're trying to reach Zhongli's shield, even til inazuma. Venti was the first but THIS was where brain-dead gameplay was amplified to new heights.

  • @DTur-gx1nw
    @DTur-gx1nw 11 месяцев назад

    my friend convinced me to come back to genshin and dehya was around the corner. i was sooo hyped bc she looked cool. I quit the same day her banner came out

  • @RareTruffle
    @RareTruffle 11 месяцев назад +18

    You a real one for sticking to your guns on John Lee not needing buffs after all this time. But, really the dude was ass cheeks at C0 and the buffs were much needed.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +7

      " a real one" yea, a real dumb one lmao

  • @derago-dev
    @derago-dev 11 месяцев назад +2

    That's why i don't expect people to believe the lies i tell to myself xD. If you want to make a Physical Qiqi or DPS Benneth, do wtv your heart desire, but don't try to convince others that's what they're suposed to do too.

  • @X5hadowsEdgeX
    @X5hadowsEdgeX 11 месяцев назад

    my man tec had hair what a rare sight

  • @jelly8621
    @jelly8621 11 месяцев назад

    Bro pulling up the classic sike that is the wrong number memes lol

  • @Justin-yw3il
    @Justin-yw3il 11 месяцев назад +45

    Genshin community type things 💀💀💀

    • @shozinks
      @shozinks 11 месяцев назад +2

      I would say some of the Genshin community need to touch grass but...
      I don't think the Grass deserve that.

  • @simplyxrainbowcloud
    @simplyxrainbowcloud 11 месяцев назад

    Dude I was just farming for him a minute ago 💀

  • @marthewroberts9646
    @marthewroberts9646 11 месяцев назад

    I remember this I remember teccys vid on it and I still pulled c4 zhongli he was good pre buff and broken after

  • @ducki465
    @ducki465 11 месяцев назад +1

    Geo/Pyro - Molten
    Geo/Anemo - Wither
    Geo/Hydro - Erode
    Geo/Dendro - Uproot
    Geo/Cryo - Crystallize
    Geo/Electro - Surge

  • @Archipelagoes
    @Archipelagoes 7 месяцев назад

    9:28 The fact that this is the most replayed section 💀💀

  • @Heatys
    @Heatys 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you Tectone very cool

  • @maryjane4128
    @maryjane4128 11 месяцев назад +1

    some people here are saying that his shield was worse than diona, but i actually saw some people calculate the numbers back then, and his shield actually has higher numbers+no downtime. it was just that floor 12 used to have cryo enemies, thus makes diona's shield better+she can also heal and generate a lot of particles.
    my take is: geo also needed the buff to be on par with other element. personally i think he needed the interruption resistance and more scalings on his pillar dmg, the pillar on hold E was also a nice touch.
    edit: i just realized diona also doesnt have interruption resistance. i might have to rethink that about him NEEDING the resistance, but its really nice to have it and definitely improves the experience, especially in chaotic combats.

    • @maryjane4128
      @maryjane4128 11 месяцев назад

      tldr: i wanted a buff too, but his shield wasnt that bad according some people who spent time to calculate

    • @sweetbabyrayso5262
      @sweetbabyrayso5262 9 месяцев назад

      i know ur comment is old but dionas shield was better than zhongli. This wasnt because abyss had cryo enemies, it was because his shield was only 250% against geo, while dionas was 250% against cryo and on hold e, additional 75% bonus to everything. makes dionas shield inherently better.

    • @NightmarAkashi
      @NightmarAkashi 9 месяцев назад

      @@maryjane4128 Well Diona shield make her go backward and is very quick
      Zhongli is static and takes 2 entire second
      And since it's all Zhongli was good for, it was needed

  • @LexLootHoe
    @LexLootHoe 11 месяцев назад

    So this was Teccys heel turn? Ahhh memories

  • @yarko9877
    @yarko9877 6 месяцев назад

    7:35 u can mod and they can't ban u because mods work true graphic card and don't interact with game in any way, it just changes what on ur screen.

  • @junn_.
    @junn_. 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wake up mother trailer is up

  • @leggyshiro
    @leggyshiro 10 месяцев назад

    I was unaware all of this was going on while I was playing genshin lmao

  • @fujiyamapanic
    @fujiyamapanic 11 месяцев назад

    I am playing a game-. I see Tectone thumbnails with some news or drama and try to guess if it's a new video or sth from years ago. I didn't think Zhongli news/drama would be sth from 7hours ago... more like 7 years.

  • @alfredxsiv
    @alfredxsiv 8 месяцев назад

    - his hold E didn't summon a pillar, that means his energy generation is basically non-existent unless you do a non-optimal and weird rotation to include his tap E
    - his hold E also didn't have interruption resistance when casting, kinda making him a bit uncomfortable to use in situations where he's supposed to make comfortable
    - Geo shield back then didn't have 150% damage absorption to all damage, which is similar to Not having Xingqiu sword aura (which nowadays is very significant with all the really aggressive enemies hoyo are adding)
    - his shield also didn't provide any buff/debuff, when diona shields grants decreased stamina consumption and increased movement speed (which basically makes him weaker than a lot of 4 star supports back then)
    - even with geo buffs, geo is considered to be the weakest element rn
    i'm glad he got "balanced" as other people like to call it, otherwise he would be so much weaker compared to other 'supports' nowadays. Though i wish we didn't have to resort to harsh measures for our voices to be heard by hoyo.

  • @kevinsplotnieks1685
    @kevinsplotnieks1685 11 месяцев назад

    Yeap, if my hairline was that far back i'd wanna stay bald too, its fine teccy, you'll always still be our teccstacles no matter what

  • @justwithpaper
    @justwithpaper 11 месяцев назад

    Holy shit, I remember when this drama happened back in the day. Geo Archon or not, I really didn't care much for Zhongli because I wasn't really interested on pulling for him.
    Then the buffs happened, he got turned into an unskippable banner, rolled and got him in like 20 draws lmao. Dude was cracked, couldn't die even if I wanted to lol

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +2

      "he got turned into an unskippable banner" na you could've still skipped him lmfao I'll never own a copy of that character cause he just doesn't provide Jack shit for my acc or my teams.

  • @magmaspacer1967
    @magmaspacer1967 11 месяцев назад +4

    It’s funny with him bringing up misinformation when he made a title and thumbnail purposefully made to mislead and lie to people for his own gain

  • @mizuenaa
    @mizuenaa 11 месяцев назад

    oh my god i remember when this happened goddd

  • @KiraMira577
    @KiraMira577 11 месяцев назад +1

    I pulled for Zhongli back on that time and guess what: he carried my Account back when I was AR 26 or so even pre buffed.
    And as of right know, I dont even use him anymore.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yea cause he's really not all that good in the modern era of the game. Tectone just lives in this weird fantasy world where he thinks Zhongli makes any team he gets put in a million times better.

  • @afteraft5206
    @afteraft5206 11 месяцев назад

    damn that replay timeline is cursed

  • @EthanCC3
    @EthanCC3 11 месяцев назад +7

    So you keep on making genshin videos even though you insist the game is trash. There’s so many other games to cover, why do you focus on it so much?

  • @kkkkkoooooo652
    @kkkkkoooooo652 10 месяцев назад +1

    Geo should have element reaction like
    Geo + water = erosion
    Geo + wind = sand storm
    Geo + fire cristilization
    😂😂

  • @part3guy197
    @part3guy197 11 месяцев назад

    I had a simple idea where geo could react with anemo, I call it "sandstorm"

  • @lillooly
    @lillooly 11 месяцев назад +2

    my first banner character in 2020, however because of this I have never had to dodge in 3 fucking years. 58k hp, do you think I want to learn? not a chance baby.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад

      58K HP Zhong shields were still getting ripped apart by the consecrated beasts last abyss so idk what you're going on about. If it's for overworld content even a Thoma/Layla/Diona shield is thick enough. Lmao

    • @lillooly
      @lillooly 11 месяцев назад

      @@justsomeguy727 can’t relate, can’t say at AR 60 I’ve had any issues ever

  • @bokehajour7808
    @bokehajour7808 11 месяцев назад

    those mods are INSANE‼️😭

  • @Tyronom
    @Tyronom 11 месяцев назад

    Damn, he was so young just 2 years ago.

  • @sussynoms
    @sussynoms 11 месяцев назад +2

    didnt staff of homa come later? I forget did he launch with vortex vanquisher or homa?

    • @shiroeikami8467
      @shiroeikami8467 11 месяцев назад +2

      With Vortex. Homa is with Hu Tao.
      The banner IIRC Homa and WGS. Teccy got a lot of WGS but can't get any of Homa. After so many WGS, his face when he mistook PJWS silhouette for a Homa is gold.

  • @belcomet27
    @belcomet27 11 месяцев назад +2

    i think he (or rather geo) did need a buff, but i found it baffling how people were confused on his role...is what id like to say until i realized his ascension stat and signature weapon did not help with this at all.

    • @belcomet27
      @belcomet27 11 месяцев назад +1

      i did find it hilarious that he was outperformed by literally diona who was released on the same banner lmao

  • @Vivi-tg6xn
    @Vivi-tg6xn 11 месяцев назад +1

    What's so funny is that a decade old game is still being played today, and it's main life-support is the modding community; Skyrim. I know it's an RPG game and not a gacha, but if Genshin allowed mods like Skyrim - it would maybe beat out any games in player base in both active and loyal players.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад

      There are games older than Skyrim still being played to this day even without mods. People swear modding communities are these grand saviors of a game's life when in reality, that's only really true for Bethesda games due to mods fixing the games lmao

  • @adityagawhale
    @adityagawhale 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tectone doesn’t stay bald by choice but has to -10:18. If you can see he has huge bald spots and if grows his hair to max, those bald spots will still be visible. So therefore he prefers to go completely bald than half bald. Then he wears his beanie over it sometimes to look cool. Don’t be fooled, this guy is still bald …

  • @weebikarp1806
    @weebikarp1806 11 месяцев назад

    I'm pretty sure I remember watching that bait video all those years ago.

  • @DAVFEARON
    @DAVFEARON 11 месяцев назад +6

    Did u test zhongli after u c6 him or before u c6 him?

    • @NightmarAkashi
      @NightmarAkashi 9 месяцев назад

      I think he managed to die with benett Zhongli C6r5 on abyss

  • @omarlajdal7790
    @omarlajdal7790 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wish to win the 50/50 with Taccy chan 😢

  • @lwazinkasawe3887
    @lwazinkasawe3887 11 месяцев назад

    11:35 honestly... Fair. One Zhongli incident and they were done 😂

  • @jaei6680
    @jaei6680 11 месяцев назад +2

    I refuse to believe he still thinks zhongli was good back then. It's either trolling or straight up stubbornness. I don't have faith in his triple digit braincells, but he's not That dumb.

  • @user-im69hribmc
    @user-im69hribmc 11 месяцев назад +1

    whats the Music on 17:00??

  • @cenaxlast
    @cenaxlast 11 месяцев назад

    If anyone has the link for that faruzan mod pls share. Asking for a friend

  • @yegarfreedom7213
    @yegarfreedom7213 11 месяцев назад

    I hope he reacts to the other akashoT videos they’re all bangers.

  • @itsok-kw5jt
    @itsok-kw5jt 11 месяцев назад +3

    Tbh, he should've not bring it like that, it's an old drama that didn't last long + I don't remember he was involved that much into it as much as he claims.
    It looks like drama milking all over again but this time, it's as old as the game

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 11 месяцев назад

      That's all he knows how to do. It's why his videos are about as creative and enjoyable to listen to as somebody bringing up their relationship 20 years ago

  • @Akivili366
    @Akivili366 11 месяцев назад +1

    3ple hp % + r5 black tasel = 53k max hp nothing but rifthounds can touch me, I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT HIS DMG

  • @HolyDevilSunny1616
    @HolyDevilSunny1616 11 месяцев назад +1

    Me, a Honkai Star Rail Player: *laughs in 180 trailblaze power, soon to be 240 plus reserve power in 10 days*

  • @konokhda
    @konokhda 11 месяцев назад +1

    1.1 Zhongli was pretty bad tbh, no knock back resistance during that long ass shield animation means you can literally get interrupted before pulling out your shield, and geo resonance was so bad back then(it still is). and his shield only takes 250% geo damage, and no 20 percent resistance shred, I would really prefer diona over Zhongli back then, since he had almost zero utility besides a shield